Meeting date set for planning permission on school sports cage

THE future of a 30-foot sports cage which was put up without permission at Castle View School in Canvey is set to be decided at a planning meeting.


Essex County councillors will decide if the hammer throwing, shotput and discus facility at the £28million school in Foksville Road, Canvey should remain.
 

Neighbours in Ash Road and Bramble Road say the cage dwarfs their bungalows, and said workmen had made the issue even worse by cutting back trees surrounding the site, making the metal structure impossible to ignore.


Residents said they had no idea the cage was coming despite it being part of the former Furtherwick Park School which was demolished to make way for the new Castle View building.
 

Brian Wood, UK Independent Party county councillor for Canvey East ward, will be speaking against the cage on behalf of residents at the meeting.


He said: “I will be speaking at the meeting in objection to the cage because it is an eyesore and should never have gone up in the first place.
 

“Residents should not have to be subjected to this when it could be placed anywhere on the rest of the field."
 

The school is now applying for retrospective planning permission for the sports cage.
 

The public meeting is taking place at county hall in Chelmsford on Friday, October 26 at 10.30am.

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4:52pm Mon 15 Oct 12

emcee says...

Retrospective planning permission should only be granted in very extreme cases. This school should be made to take it down and then apply for planning permission in the "normal" way.
Either way, if the planning permission is denied we need to find out who has wasted all this money and heads should roll.
Retrospective planning permission should only be granted in very extreme cases. This school should be made to take it down and then apply for planning permission in the "normal" way. Either way, if the planning permission is denied we need to find out who has wasted all this money and heads should roll. emcee
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4:40pm Wed 17 Oct 12

marshman says...

I disagree with the above. The schools well within their rights to build first and ask later. Take a look around the Island - it's how half of it was built.

My concern is that it's only to be used for sports. The way some of them come flying out of the gate at bell time it makes me think it could also be used to coral the pesky blighters until either they calm down and agree to go home quietly or somebody comes to pick them up. I know it's a tough job being a teacher but there are limits after all.

As to the residents objections, 1- it's better than a discus through the window and 2 - why not plant it up with some Russian Vine? In a year or two it will be a wall of green full of sparrow and blackbird's nests and a sweet smelling mass of flowers as soon as the snow melts.

Good luck to the school (but they should have kept the old name).
I disagree with the above. The schools well within their rights to build first and ask later. Take a look around the Island - it's how half of it was built. My concern is that it's only to be used for sports. The way some of them come flying out of the gate at bell time it makes me think it could also be used to coral the pesky blighters until either they calm down and agree to go home quietly or somebody comes to pick them up. I know it's a tough job being a teacher but there are limits after all. As to the residents objections, 1- it's better than a discus through the window and 2 - why not plant it up with some Russian Vine? In a year or two it will be a wall of green full of sparrow and blackbird's nests and a sweet smelling mass of flowers as soon as the snow melts. Good luck to the school (but they should have kept the old name). marshman
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5:26pm Wed 17 Oct 12

Eric Whim says...

emcee wrote:
Retrospective planning permission should only be granted in very extreme cases. This school should be made to take it down and then apply for planning permission in the "normal" way.
Either way, if the planning permission is denied we need to find out who has wasted all this money and heads should roll.
retrospective planning permission is a Tesco trademark isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: Retrospective planning permission should only be granted in very extreme cases. This school should be made to take it down and then apply for planning permission in the "normal" way. Either way, if the planning permission is denied we need to find out who has wasted all this money and heads should roll.[/p][/quote]retrospective planning permission is a Tesco trademark isn't it? Eric Whim
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6:41pm Wed 17 Oct 12

Olivia2847 says...

For a moment I thought the cage was to keep the children from getting out!
For a moment I thought the cage was to keep the children from getting out! Olivia2847
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8:12pm Wed 17 Oct 12

John T Pharro says...

marshman wrote:
I disagree with the above. The schools well within their rights to build first and ask later. Take a look around the Island - it's how half of it was built.

My concern is that it's only to be used for sports. The way some of them come flying out of the gate at bell time it makes me think it could also be used to coral the pesky blighters until either they calm down and agree to go home quietly or somebody comes to pick them up. I know it's a tough job being a teacher but there are limits after all.

As to the residents objections, 1- it's better than a discus through the window and 2 - why not plant it up with some Russian Vine? In a year or two it will be a wall of green full of sparrow and blackbird's nests and a sweet smelling mass of flowers as soon as the snow melts.

Good luck to the school (but they should have kept the old name).
I agree with most of what you say, but not "within their rights to build first ask later" Though I doubt if half the Island was built that way anything should not have been.
Having said that, if you are a developer you put in plans and get them passed regardless of whether residents want them, address safety issues, over development as Thorney Bay or Canvey Supply show without any opposition from Councillor Howard or our MP, unless of course you live in Benfleet and the development is there.
[quote][p][bold]marshman[/bold] wrote: I disagree with the above. The schools well within their rights to build first and ask later. Take a look around the Island - it's how half of it was built. My concern is that it's only to be used for sports. The way some of them come flying out of the gate at bell time it makes me think it could also be used to coral the pesky blighters until either they calm down and agree to go home quietly or somebody comes to pick them up. I know it's a tough job being a teacher but there are limits after all. As to the residents objections, 1- it's better than a discus through the window and 2 - why not plant it up with some Russian Vine? In a year or two it will be a wall of green full of sparrow and blackbird's nests and a sweet smelling mass of flowers as soon as the snow melts. Good luck to the school (but they should have kept the old name).[/p][/quote]I agree with most of what you say, but not "within their rights to build first ask later" Though I doubt if half the Island was built that way anything should not have been. Having said that, if you are a developer you put in plans and get them passed regardless of whether residents want them, address safety issues, over development as Thorney Bay or Canvey Supply show without any opposition from Councillor Howard or our MP, unless of course you live in Benfleet and the development is there. John T Pharro
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8:40pm Wed 17 Oct 12

A130Gordon says...

marshman wrote:
I disagree with the above. The schools well within their rights to build first and ask later. Take a look around the Island - it's how half of it was built.

My concern is that it's only to be used for sports. The way some of them come flying out of the gate at bell time it makes me think it could also be used to coral the pesky blighters until either they calm down and agree to go home quietly or somebody comes to pick them up. I know it's a tough job being a teacher but there are limits after all.

As to the residents objections, 1- it's better than a discus through the window and 2 - why not plant it up with some Russian Vine? In a year or two it will be a wall of green full of sparrow and blackbird's nests and a sweet smelling mass of flowers as soon as the snow melts.

Good luck to the school (but they should have kept the old name).
To marshman's point "they should have kept the old name" the old Furtherwick Park school was closed so the name went with it. Sad of course that it had to close (I was a Furtherwick pupil), but there are barely enough pupils to keep the two remaining secondary schools full and the weakest at the time lost out.

Hopefully the developers will sort something out for the school if the planning application is turned down because sport has been a strength for Canvey schools and it would be a shame to affect this.
[quote][p][bold]marshman[/bold] wrote: I disagree with the above. The schools well within their rights to build first and ask later. Take a look around the Island - it's how half of it was built. My concern is that it's only to be used for sports. The way some of them come flying out of the gate at bell time it makes me think it could also be used to coral the pesky blighters until either they calm down and agree to go home quietly or somebody comes to pick them up. I know it's a tough job being a teacher but there are limits after all. As to the residents objections, 1- it's better than a discus through the window and 2 - why not plant it up with some Russian Vine? In a year or two it will be a wall of green full of sparrow and blackbird's nests and a sweet smelling mass of flowers as soon as the snow melts. Good luck to the school (but they should have kept the old name).[/p][/quote]To marshman's point "they should have kept the old name" the old Furtherwick Park school was closed so the name went with it. Sad of course that it had to close (I was a Furtherwick pupil), but there are barely enough pupils to keep the two remaining secondary schools full and the weakest at the time lost out. Hopefully the developers will sort something out for the school if the planning application is turned down because sport has been a strength for Canvey schools and it would be a shame to affect this. A130Gordon
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9:26pm Wed 17 Oct 12

John T Pharro says...

A130Gordon wrote:
marshman wrote:
I disagree with the above. The schools well within their rights to build first and ask later. Take a look around the Island - it's how half of it was built.

My concern is that it's only to be used for sports. The way some of them come flying out of the gate at bell time it makes me think it could also be used to coral the pesky blighters until either they calm down and agree to go home quietly or somebody comes to pick them up. I know it's a tough job being a teacher but there are limits after all.

As to the residents objections, 1- it's better than a discus through the window and 2 - why not plant it up with some Russian Vine? In a year or two it will be a wall of green full of sparrow and blackbird's nests and a sweet smelling mass of flowers as soon as the snow melts.

Good luck to the school (but they should have kept the old name).
To marshman's point "they should have kept the old name" the old Furtherwick Park school was closed so the name went with it. Sad of course that it had to close (I was a Furtherwick pupil), but there are barely enough pupils to keep the two remaining secondary schools full and the weakest at the time lost out.

Hopefully the developers will sort something out for the school if the planning application is turned down because sport has been a strength for Canvey schools and it would be a shame to affect this.
Actually not quite correct. The name could have been kept. The belief that because the Head and staff were to run the school came from the old Castle View School does not mean that the name could have been kept. They were not new employees. You now have a ridiculous situation that a school named because it could see albeit before the sea wall was made higher because of Hadleigh Castle now cannot see the castle and is now still located in Furtherwick Road names on the site of the old Furtherwick Farm.
As to the old Furtherwick School being the "weakest" based on what and when? Yes of course they lost staff moral was low and pupils suffered. Well what do you expect with the kick in the teeth and not even keeping the name? Coupled with the massive disruption to their pupils with building work and all the accompanying noise whilst this so called state of the art school was being built around them. I think the staff did a magnificent job never properly given the credit whilst all that happened whilst Councillor Castle strutted about thinking how good he is and saying how well and on target the work was being done. About as much built on target as Sadlers Farm road works.
[quote][p][bold]A130Gordon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marshman[/bold] wrote: I disagree with the above. The schools well within their rights to build first and ask later. Take a look around the Island - it's how half of it was built. My concern is that it's only to be used for sports. The way some of them come flying out of the gate at bell time it makes me think it could also be used to coral the pesky blighters until either they calm down and agree to go home quietly or somebody comes to pick them up. I know it's a tough job being a teacher but there are limits after all. As to the residents objections, 1- it's better than a discus through the window and 2 - why not plant it up with some Russian Vine? In a year or two it will be a wall of green full of sparrow and blackbird's nests and a sweet smelling mass of flowers as soon as the snow melts. Good luck to the school (but they should have kept the old name).[/p][/quote]To marshman's point "they should have kept the old name" the old Furtherwick Park school was closed so the name went with it. Sad of course that it had to close (I was a Furtherwick pupil), but there are barely enough pupils to keep the two remaining secondary schools full and the weakest at the time lost out. Hopefully the developers will sort something out for the school if the planning application is turned down because sport has been a strength for Canvey schools and it would be a shame to affect this.[/p][/quote]Actually not quite correct. The name could have been kept. The belief that because the Head and staff were to run the school came from the old Castle View School does not mean that the name could have been kept. They were not new employees. You now have a ridiculous situation that a school named because it could see albeit before the sea wall was made higher because of Hadleigh Castle now cannot see the castle and is now still located in Furtherwick Road names on the site of the old Furtherwick Farm. As to the old Furtherwick School being the "weakest" based on what and when? Yes of course they lost staff moral was low and pupils suffered. Well what do you expect with the kick in the teeth and not even keeping the name? Coupled with the massive disruption to their pupils with building work and all the accompanying noise whilst this so called state of the art school was being built around them. I think the staff did a magnificent job never properly given the credit whilst all that happened whilst Councillor Castle strutted about thinking how good he is and saying how well and on target the work was being done. About as much built on target as Sadlers Farm road works. John T Pharro
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3:32pm Thu 18 Oct 12

HOT AIR says...

Yet again John you are allowing your mouth to engage before your brain you CAN see Hadleigh Castle from the brand spanking new School that Essex County Council have provided.

Why don't you ask for a tour?
Yet again John you are allowing your mouth to engage before your brain you CAN see Hadleigh Castle from the brand spanking new School that Essex County Council have provided. Why don't you ask for a tour? HOT AIR
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4:40pm Thu 18 Oct 12

John T Pharro says...

HOT AIR wrote:
Yet again John you are allowing your mouth to engage before your brain you CAN see Hadleigh Castle from the brand spanking new School that Essex County Council have provided.

Why don't you ask for a tour?
Yes maybe from the top, but how far away? Take you don't think the pupills and staff suffered at Furtherwick Park school whilst the work was being done. Did you know at one time they were pile driving whilst they were trying to study and as they were the last year in the school had no benefit at all.
[quote][p][bold]HOT AIR[/bold] wrote: Yet again John you are allowing your mouth to engage before your brain you CAN see Hadleigh Castle from the brand spanking new School that Essex County Council have provided. Why don't you ask for a tour?[/p][/quote]Yes maybe from the top, but how far away? Take you don't think the pupills and staff suffered at Furtherwick Park school whilst the work was being done. Did you know at one time they were pile driving whilst they were trying to study and as they were the last year in the school had no benefit at all. John T Pharro
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8:54pm Wed 24 Oct 12

A130Gordon says...

@John, Furtherwick Park school closed and ceased to be. Why would Castle View school want to rename themselves as Furtherwick Park? It. Was their choice, no-one elses.

Weakest based on performance data available when the decision to close it was made and the fact it was judged as in special measures by Ofsted.

Then agin what oes he name really matter as long as the children on canvey are getting a decent education?
@John, Furtherwick Park school closed and ceased to be. Why would Castle View school want to rename themselves as Furtherwick Park? It. Was their choice, no-one elses. Weakest based on performance data available when the decision to close it was made and the fact it was judged as in special measures by Ofsted. Then agin what oes he name really matter as long as the children on canvey are getting a decent education? A130Gordon
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