"Southend Pier 'cultural centre' is boringly named"

10:00am Saturday 27th October 2012 in Local News

The pier's cultural centre The pier's cultural centre

SOUTHEND Pier’s new £3million cultural centre is too boringly named to attract any visitors.

That’s the verdict of Anna Waite, the former Tory leader of Southend Council, who has called for it to be rechristened to draw more people to the end of the pier.

The authority has said it is willing to listen to any offers to use the cultural centre, which has already hosted art exhibitions, musical performances, comedy gigs and private events since it opened in July.

But Mrs Waite questioned why it had been given such an uninspiring name in the first place.

She said: “Let’s face it, how many children or teenagers, or even any visitors, are going to get excited about visiting a ‘cultural centre’?

“Would you hold your wedding or celebrate an important birthday in a ‘cultural centre’?”

“Even our diehard locals are sceptical.”

Derek Jarvis, the Tory councillor responsible for culture, said the new building’s title could be changed in the future.

However, he argued the current moniker was not damaging its attractiveness in any way.

“It is a working title in a sense and I’m sure that, in the future, we can have a debate about what it should be called,” he said.

“But one thing is certain: it is not hindering business at all.

“We have had a lot of interest in the centre and it has been a great success so far.”

Comments (39)

10:14am Sat 27 Oct 12

Shoebury_Cyclist says...

In other news Mrs Waite called for libraries to be renamed Super Headbuzz Centres, and railway stations Amazing Magical Ride Zones.
In other news Mrs Waite called for libraries to be renamed Super Headbuzz Centres, and railway stations Amazing Magical Ride Zones. Shoebury_Cyclist

10:42am Sat 27 Oct 12

Spawnof says...

We went to the centre last night for a showing of Monster Humanoids from the Deep. Everyone there had a right good time and i will be looking out for more events.
Agree it is boringly named though. Perhaps it should be called the Phoenix For the amount of times it has come back from the ashes up that end of the pier.
We went to the centre last night for a showing of Monster Humanoids from the Deep. Everyone there had a right good time and i will be looking out for more events. Agree it is boringly named though. Perhaps it should be called the Phoenix For the amount of times it has come back from the ashes up that end of the pier. Spawnof

10:43am Sat 27 Oct 12

Shoebury_Cyclist says...

The Phoenix, I like that. They could get Peter Kay to open it.
The Phoenix, I like that. They could get Peter Kay to open it. Shoebury_Cyclist

10:44am Sat 27 Oct 12

heartbeat says...

Whatever happened to the idea of the enormous seafront statue of Lee Brilleaux? If that's not going to happen and the airport isn't going to be named after him then I suppose the cultural wotsit would do. I suppose something posh like the Dame Helen Mirren Centre wouldn't go amiss either.

Just not The Waiting Room please, I don't want to be reminded of HER forever more!
Whatever happened to the idea of the enormous seafront statue of Lee Brilleaux? If that's not going to happen and the airport isn't going to be named after him then I suppose the cultural wotsit would do. I suppose something posh like the Dame Helen Mirren Centre wouldn't go amiss either. Just not The Waiting Room please, I don't want to be reminded of HER forever more! heartbeat

10:45am Sat 27 Oct 12

Eric Whim says...

is Waite missing seeing her name in print so much she has to let us all know what she thinks?

We don't care.
is Waite missing seeing her name in print so much she has to let us all know what she thinks? We don't care. Eric Whim

10:46am Sat 27 Oct 12

heartbeat says...

Spawnof wrote:
We went to the centre last night for a showing of Monster Humanoids from the Deep. Everyone there had a right good time and i will be looking out for more events.
Agree it is boringly named though. Perhaps it should be called the Phoenix For the amount of times it has come back from the ashes up that end of the pier.
I've never seen anything advertised there, apart from a little piece in the Echo about the opening event. Where do they advertise?
[quote][p][bold]Spawnof[/bold] wrote: We went to the centre last night for a showing of Monster Humanoids from the Deep. Everyone there had a right good time and i will be looking out for more events. Agree it is boringly named though. Perhaps it should be called the Phoenix For the amount of times it has come back from the ashes up that end of the pier.[/p][/quote]I've never seen anything advertised there, apart from a little piece in the Echo about the opening event. Where do they advertise? heartbeat

10:55am Sat 27 Oct 12

Aint it just the truth says...

As if renaming it will persuade more people to traipse over mile out to sea. If they really want more people to visit I suggest they move it a mile or so further north.
As if renaming it will persuade more people to traipse over mile out to sea. If they really want more people to visit I suggest they move it a mile or so further north. Aint it just the truth

11:42am Sat 27 Oct 12

Shoebury_Cyclist says...

I would love to go out on the pier every week, but there is no secure cycle parking anywhere on the seafront.
I would love to go out on the pier every week, but there is no secure cycle parking anywhere on the seafront. Shoebury_Cyclist

1:04pm Sat 27 Oct 12

v.randy says...

Very middle class..great if you've got spare cash or your names jaime Oliver but for the average Southender travelling half way to Kent is a no go..
Most people I've met don't even know it exists.
Give it 12 months and it will follow in the wake of the Shoebury Youth Club,so the only name suitable is WHITE ELEPHANT .
Very middle class..great if you've got spare cash or your names jaime Oliver but for the average Southender travelling half way to Kent is a no go.. Most people I've met don't even know it exists. Give it 12 months and it will follow in the wake of the Shoebury Youth Club,so the only name suitable is WHITE ELEPHANT . v.randy

1:47pm Sat 27 Oct 12

emcee says...

As much I despise Waite, she does have a point. Not only is this the wrong type of building in the wrong place. A building named "cultural" or "arts" centre only promotes snobbery and the ordinary person in the street will be less inspired to visit if it were on land, let alone over a mile out at sea.
As much I despise Waite, she does have a point. Not only is this the wrong type of building in the wrong place. A building named "cultural" or "arts" centre only promotes snobbery and the ordinary person in the street will be less inspired to visit if it were on land, let alone over a mile out at sea. emcee

3:15pm Sat 27 Oct 12

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Its sounds boring probably because it is boring.
Its sounds boring probably because it is boring. DogsMessInLeigh

3:37pm Sat 27 Oct 12

Spawnof says...

heartbeat wrote:
Spawnof wrote:
We went to the centre last night for a showing of Monster Humanoids from the Deep. Everyone there had a right good time and i will be looking out for more events.
Agree it is boringly named though. Perhaps it should be called the Phoenix For the amount of times it has come back from the ashes up that end of the pier.
I've never seen anything advertised there, apart from a little piece in the Echo about the opening event. Where do they advertise?
Visit southend website.
http://www.visitsout
hend.co.uk/thedms.as
px?dms=72&shop=15&pr
od=6583

Dawn of the dead on next Friday followed by a zombie walk down the pier.

Regards
@sporadic_steve
[quote][p][bold]heartbeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Spawnof[/bold] wrote: We went to the centre last night for a showing of Monster Humanoids from the Deep. Everyone there had a right good time and i will be looking out for more events. Agree it is boringly named though. Perhaps it should be called the Phoenix For the amount of times it has come back from the ashes up that end of the pier.[/p][/quote]I've never seen anything advertised there, apart from a little piece in the Echo about the opening event. Where do they advertise?[/p][/quote]Visit southend website. http://www.visitsout hend.co.uk/thedms.as px?dms=72&shop=15&pr od=6583 Dawn of the dead on next Friday followed by a zombie walk down the pier. Regards @sporadic_steve Spawnof

3:38pm Sat 27 Oct 12

Spawnof says...

v.randy wrote:
Very middle class..great if you've got spare cash or your names jaime Oliver but for the average Southender travelling half way to Kent is a no go..
Most people I've met don't even know it exists.
Give it 12 months and it will follow in the wake of the Shoebury Youth Club,so the only name suitable is WHITE ELEPHANT .
Movi last night cost £8 inc. train both ways
[quote][p][bold]v.randy[/bold] wrote: Very middle class..great if you've got spare cash or your names jaime Oliver but for the average Southender travelling half way to Kent is a no go.. Most people I've met don't even know it exists. Give it 12 months and it will follow in the wake of the Shoebury Youth Club,so the only name suitable is WHITE ELEPHANT .[/p][/quote]Movi last night cost £8 inc. train both ways Spawnof

4:54pm Sat 27 Oct 12

v.randy says...

Spawnof wrote:
v.randy wrote:
Very middle class..great if you've got spare cash or your names jaime Oliver but for the average Southender travelling half way to Kent is a no go..
Most people I've met don't even know it exists.
Give it 12 months and it will follow in the wake of the Shoebury Youth Club,so the only name suitable is WHITE ELEPHANT .
Movi last night cost £8 inc. train both ways
precisely!!!!!!!!!!!
!!
[quote][p][bold]Spawnof[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]v.randy[/bold] wrote: Very middle class..great if you've got spare cash or your names jaime Oliver but for the average Southender travelling half way to Kent is a no go.. Most people I've met don't even know it exists. Give it 12 months and it will follow in the wake of the Shoebury Youth Club,so the only name suitable is WHITE ELEPHANT .[/p][/quote]Movi last night cost £8 inc. train both ways[/p][/quote]precisely!!!!!!!!!!! !! v.randy

5:03pm Sat 27 Oct 12

Shoebury_Cyclist says...

A movie and travel cost for £8 sounds like a bargain to me.
A movie and travel cost for £8 sounds like a bargain to me. Shoebury_Cyclist

5:44pm Sat 27 Oct 12

jolllyboy says...

I took visitors there and they were soooo dissappointed. There is nothing at the end of the pier. Bring back the good old days - before my time, just look at the old photos and you will see what I mean. the pier used to be packed.
I took visitors there and they were soooo dissappointed. There is nothing at the end of the pier. Bring back the good old days - before my time, just look at the old photos and you will see what I mean. the pier used to be packed. jolllyboy

6:44pm Sat 27 Oct 12

Joe Wildman says...

heartbeat wrote:
Whatever happened to the idea of the enormous seafront statue of Lee Brilleaux? If that's not going to happen and the airport isn't going to be named after him then I suppose the cultural wotsit would do. I suppose something posh like the Dame Helen Mirren Centre wouldn't go amiss either.

Just not The Waiting Room please, I don't want to be reminded of HER forever more!
It was a joke, it was never actually planned to ever happen, why rename the airport after somebody that had nothing to do with it, abd who has more of a link to Canvey than Southend.
[quote][p][bold]heartbeat[/bold] wrote: Whatever happened to the idea of the enormous seafront statue of Lee Brilleaux? If that's not going to happen and the airport isn't going to be named after him then I suppose the cultural wotsit would do. I suppose something posh like the Dame Helen Mirren Centre wouldn't go amiss either. Just not The Waiting Room please, I don't want to be reminded of HER forever more![/p][/quote]It was a joke, it was never actually planned to ever happen, why rename the airport after somebody that had nothing to do with it, abd who has more of a link to Canvey than Southend. Joe Wildman

6:45pm Sat 27 Oct 12

Joe Wildman says...

v.randy wrote:
Spawnof wrote:
v.randy wrote:
Very middle class..great if you've got spare cash or your names jaime Oliver but for the average Southender travelling half way to Kent is a no go..
Most people I've met don't even know it exists.
Give it 12 months and it will follow in the wake of the Shoebury Youth Club,so the only name suitable is WHITE ELEPHANT .
Movi last night cost £8 inc. train both ways
precisely!!!!!!!!!!!

!!
pricess are on par with the Odeon, not as busy and a unique venue sound good to me.
[quote][p][bold]v.randy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Spawnof[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]v.randy[/bold] wrote: Very middle class..great if you've got spare cash or your names jaime Oliver but for the average Southender travelling half way to Kent is a no go.. Most people I've met don't even know it exists. Give it 12 months and it will follow in the wake of the Shoebury Youth Club,so the only name suitable is WHITE ELEPHANT .[/p][/quote]Movi last night cost £8 inc. train both ways[/p][/quote]precisely!!!!!!!!!!! !![/p][/quote]pricess are on par with the Odeon, not as busy and a unique venue sound good to me. Joe Wildman

9:05pm Sat 27 Oct 12

Aint it just the truth says...

jolllyboy wrote:
I took visitors there and they were soooo dissappointed. There is nothing at the end of the pier. Bring back the good old days - before my time, just look at the old photos and you will see what I mean. the pier used to be packed.
"The pier used to be packed" ... with things that were appropriate for the end of a very long pier. The word appropriate used to be top of the list on the "hierarchies of importance" of architects, planners, designers etc. Sadly these days it is fashionable to reject such sensible principles - especially amongst people who are not fully trained architects, planners, designers etc - which is why we have a tin box on the end of the pier and we'll be getting a museum for the quiet contemplation of the Prince of Prittlewell right in the middle of Southends primary chav magnet. I give up.
[quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: I took visitors there and they were soooo dissappointed. There is nothing at the end of the pier. Bring back the good old days - before my time, just look at the old photos and you will see what I mean. the pier used to be packed.[/p][/quote]"The pier used to be packed" ... with things that were appropriate for the end of a very long pier. The word appropriate used to be top of the list on the "hierarchies of importance" of architects, planners, designers etc. Sadly these days it is fashionable to reject such sensible principles - especially amongst people who are not fully trained architects, planners, designers etc - which is why we have a tin box on the end of the pier and we'll be getting a museum for the quiet contemplation of the Prince of Prittlewell right in the middle of Southends primary chav magnet. I give up. Aint it just the truth

9:07pm Sat 27 Oct 12

Aint it just the truth says...

... and why do you think it's not as busy Joe Wildman? It's not rocket science.
... and why do you think it's not as busy Joe Wildman? It's not rocket science. Aint it just the truth

9:13pm Sat 27 Oct 12

heartbeat says...

Joe Wildman wrote:
heartbeat wrote:
Whatever happened to the idea of the enormous seafront statue of Lee Brilleaux? If that's not going to happen and the airport isn't going to be named after him then I suppose the cultural wotsit would do. I suppose something posh like the Dame Helen Mirren Centre wouldn't go amiss either.

Just not The Waiting Room please, I don't want to be reminded of HER forever more!
It was a joke, it was never actually planned to ever happen, why rename the airport after somebody that had nothing to do with it, abd who has more of a link to Canvey than Southend.
But Lee spent several years living in Leigh. Leigh is under the flight path and gets the bulk of the aircraft noise so it's a no-brainer shirley?
[quote][p][bold]Joe Wildman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]heartbeat[/bold] wrote: Whatever happened to the idea of the enormous seafront statue of Lee Brilleaux? If that's not going to happen and the airport isn't going to be named after him then I suppose the cultural wotsit would do. I suppose something posh like the Dame Helen Mirren Centre wouldn't go amiss either. Just not The Waiting Room please, I don't want to be reminded of HER forever more![/p][/quote]It was a joke, it was never actually planned to ever happen, why rename the airport after somebody that had nothing to do with it, abd who has more of a link to Canvey than Southend.[/p][/quote]But Lee spent several years living in Leigh. Leigh is under the flight path and gets the bulk of the aircraft noise so it's a no-brainer shirley? heartbeat

9:52pm Sat 27 Oct 12

DogsMessInLeigh says...

if he still lived under the flight path i am sure he wouldn't want the airport named after him....besides i reckon theres millions who don't know who he is, unlike John Lennon who did have one named after him, how about James Bond Airport as they did film scenes there once.
if he still lived under the flight path i am sure he wouldn't want the airport named after him....besides i reckon theres millions who don't know who he is, unlike John Lennon who did have one named after him, how about James Bond Airport as they did film scenes there once. DogsMessInLeigh

10:26pm Sat 27 Oct 12

siddymint says...

who's mrs waite????
who's mrs waite???? siddymint

11:21pm Sat 27 Oct 12

silverleaf48 says...

mrs waite was the council leader of southend but she lost her vote
people did not like her.
mrs waite was the council leader of southend but she lost her vote people did not like her. silverleaf48

11:25pm Sat 27 Oct 12

silverleaf48 says...

i like the new centre but name could be flasher so people will come to visit
i like the new centre but name could be flasher so people will come to visit silverleaf48

11:42pm Sat 27 Oct 12

southchurch bob says...

Spawnof wrote:
We went to the centre last night for a showing of Monster Humanoids from the Deep. Everyone there had a right good time and i will be looking out for more events.
Agree it is boringly named though. Perhaps it should be called the Phoenix For the amount of times it has come back from the ashes up that end of the pier.
Will be interesting in winter nights how much "culture "will be enjoyed on the Pier what we need covered in areas for entertainment venues etc other towns still have ther pier entertainment, we used to go The Diamond Horseshoe at the end of the Pier all year round 'till 12 tpm getting last train back -Majic
[quote][p][bold]Spawnof[/bold] wrote: We went to the centre last night for a showing of Monster Humanoids from the Deep. Everyone there had a right good time and i will be looking out for more events. Agree it is boringly named though. Perhaps it should be called the Phoenix For the amount of times it has come back from the ashes up that end of the pier.[/p][/quote]Will be interesting in winter nights how much "culture "will be enjoyed on the Pier what we need covered in areas for entertainment venues etc other towns still have ther pier entertainment, we used to go The Diamond Horseshoe at the end of the Pier all year round 'till 12 tpm getting last train back -Majic southchurch bob

6:17am Sun 28 Oct 12

SARFENDMAN says...

You can name it whatever you like, it's how you use it is what really counts. At the moment it reflects the same old SBC non reality thinking on what folk really want to see going on in there.
You can name it whatever you like, it's how you use it is what really counts. At the moment it reflects the same old SBC non reality thinking on what folk really want to see going on in there. SARFENDMAN

4:00pm Sun 28 Oct 12

bongking says...

it needs to be bigger,all that money spent on a shed, with a cafe that only holds 20 people!! great.
it needs to be bigger,all that money spent on a shed, with a cafe that only holds 20 people!! great. bongking

4:03pm Sun 28 Oct 12

bongking says...

Spawnof wrote:
We went to the centre last night for a showing of Monster Humanoids from the Deep. Everyone there had a right good time and i will be looking out for more events.
Agree it is boringly named though. Perhaps it should be called the Phoenix For the amount of times it has come back from the ashes up that end of the pier.
how many people can see the show at a time? with out sitting outside.
[quote][p][bold]Spawnof[/bold] wrote: We went to the centre last night for a showing of Monster Humanoids from the Deep. Everyone there had a right good time and i will be looking out for more events. Agree it is boringly named though. Perhaps it should be called the Phoenix For the amount of times it has come back from the ashes up that end of the pier.[/p][/quote]how many people can see the show at a time? with out sitting outside. bongking

4:24pm Sun 28 Oct 12

cris300 says...

silverleaf48 wrote:
mrs waite was the council leader of southend but she lost her vote
people did not like her.
She picks on vulnerable people with overgrown front gardens.#nastyselfis
htype
[quote][p][bold]silverleaf48[/bold] wrote: mrs waite was the council leader of southend but she lost her vote people did not like her.[/p][/quote]She picks on vulnerable people with overgrown front gardens.#nastyselfis htype cris300

5:53pm Sun 28 Oct 12

Shoebury_Cyclist says...

siddymint wrote:
who's mrs waite????
She was allegedly also known as BoB - The Butcher of Barling - for all the destruction she wrought on the borough's trees, usually organising felling to be done in the dead of night.
But now - as far as I can tell from comments by current council tories - she's no-one, a hasbeen local politician disliked by even her own party.
[quote][p][bold]siddymint[/bold] wrote: who's mrs waite????[/p][/quote]She was allegedly also known as BoB - The Butcher of Barling - for all the destruction she wrought on the borough's trees, usually organising felling to be done in the dead of night. But now - as far as I can tell from comments by current council tories - she's no-one, a hasbeen local politician disliked by even her own party. Shoebury_Cyclist

1:16am Mon 29 Oct 12

Spawnof says...

bongking wrote:
Spawnof wrote:
We went to the centre last night for a showing of Monster Humanoids from the Deep. Everyone there had a right good time and i will be looking out for more events.
Agree it is boringly named though. Perhaps it should be called the Phoenix For the amount of times it has come back from the ashes up that end of the pier.
how many people can see the show at a time? with out sitting outside.
Around 90 at a guess. A suprisingly large screen too
[quote][p][bold]bongking[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Spawnof[/bold] wrote: We went to the centre last night for a showing of Monster Humanoids from the Deep. Everyone there had a right good time and i will be looking out for more events. Agree it is boringly named though. Perhaps it should be called the Phoenix For the amount of times it has come back from the ashes up that end of the pier.[/p][/quote]how many people can see the show at a time? with out sitting outside.[/p][/quote]Around 90 at a guess. A suprisingly large screen too Spawnof

7:15am Mon 29 Oct 12

notinwestcliffanymore says...

v.randy wrote:
Spawnof wrote:
v.randy wrote: Very middle class..great if you've got spare cash or your names jaime Oliver but for the average Southender travelling half way to Kent is a no go.. Most people I've met don't even know it exists. Give it 12 months and it will follow in the wake of the Shoebury Youth Club,so the only name suitable is WHITE ELEPHANT .
Movi last night cost £8 inc. train both ways
precisely!!!!!!!!!!! !!
well its £4 to get to kent and back over the bridge without entertainment.
[quote][p][bold]v.randy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Spawnof[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]v.randy[/bold] wrote: Very middle class..great if you've got spare cash or your names jaime Oliver but for the average Southender travelling half way to Kent is a no go.. Most people I've met don't even know it exists. Give it 12 months and it will follow in the wake of the Shoebury Youth Club,so the only name suitable is WHITE ELEPHANT .[/p][/quote]Movi last night cost £8 inc. train both ways[/p][/quote]precisely!!!!!!!!!!! !![/p][/quote]well its £4 to get to kent and back over the bridge without entertainment. notinwestcliffanymore

7:28am Mon 29 Oct 12

Shoebury_Cyclist says...

notinwestcliffanymor
e wrote:
v.randy wrote:
Spawnof wrote:
v.randy wrote: Very middle class..great if you've got spare cash or your names jaime Oliver but for the average Southender travelling half way to Kent is a no go.. Most people I've met don't even know it exists. Give it 12 months and it will follow in the wake of the Shoebury Youth Club,so the only name suitable is WHITE ELEPHANT .
Movi last night cost £8 inc. train both ways
precisely!!!!!!!!!!! !!
well its £4 to get to kent and back over the bridge without entertainment.
Plus petrol, VED, insurance, MOT...
[quote][p][bold]notinwestcliffanymor e[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]v.randy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Spawnof[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]v.randy[/bold] wrote: Very middle class..great if you've got spare cash or your names jaime Oliver but for the average Southender travelling half way to Kent is a no go.. Most people I've met don't even know it exists. Give it 12 months and it will follow in the wake of the Shoebury Youth Club,so the only name suitable is WHITE ELEPHANT .[/p][/quote]Movi last night cost £8 inc. train both ways[/p][/quote]precisely!!!!!!!!!!! !![/p][/quote]well its £4 to get to kent and back over the bridge without entertainment.[/p][/quote]Plus petrol, VED, insurance, MOT... Shoebury_Cyclist

11:12am Mon 29 Oct 12

bongking says...

was there supposed to be another building, going along side this one?
was there supposed to be another building, going along side this one? bongking

12:16pm Mon 29 Oct 12

alimac69 says...

I think £8 is very reasonable for the train and a film and the club nights on the end of the pier always drew huge attendances.
I think £8 is very reasonable for the train and a film and the club nights on the end of the pier always drew huge attendances. alimac69

12:25pm Mon 29 Oct 12

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Have some art classes down there...that will draw people in.
Have some art classes down there...that will draw people in. DogsMessInLeigh

12:18pm Thu 1 Nov 12

freecomment says...

We've got 'The Cliffs Pavilion', 'The Palace Theatre', 'The Beecroft Gallery', why not call it 'The Pierhead, Southend'.
We've got 'The Cliffs Pavilion', 'The Palace Theatre', 'The Beecroft Gallery', why not call it 'The Pierhead, Southend'. freecomment

12:18pm Thu 1 Nov 12

freecomment says...

We've got 'The Cliffs Pavilion', 'The Palace Theatre', 'The Beecroft Gallery', why not call it 'The Pierhead, Southend'.
We've got 'The Cliffs Pavilion', 'The Palace Theatre', 'The Beecroft Gallery', why not call it 'The Pierhead, Southend'. freecomment

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