Woman who had stomach removed ordered back to work (From Echo)

The people of Essex vote for the party that supports this type of treatment of sick and disabled people, so it will be interesting to see the level of support this lady gets on this website!

I hope she continues to recooperate and returns to as normal a life as she can have.

If she was self employed she would of been back to work next day

if she was a foreigner then she would get a sick note for life...... I wish her well in her recovery

this government are putting pressure everywhere to save money ,its wrong when you have genuine people making claims ,what is most annoying is the very people who are imposing these cutbacks ,have had people from within making false claims ,and the decent public have to pay the price for these wrongdoers ,just look at some in the banking industry

a relative of mine was recently discharged from a local hospital to a care home as being "medically fit", but died within 3 weeks, having never improved. What does medically fit mean?

She is a secretary,hardly manual labour is it?

leslog wrote:
this government are putting pressure everywhere to save money ,its wrong when you have genuine people making claims ,what is most annoying is the very people who are imposing these cutbacks ,have had people from within making false claims ,and the decent public have to pay the price for these wrongdoers ,just look at some in the banking industry

What is even more annoying is that the very people representing these continual cuts have the cheek to continually sing from the rooftop on what they would do knowing they either have not got a chance of doing or if they do the party will use the whip to quieter them or deselect them at future elections !!
Read the garbage the Tory Police Crime Commissioner states in his manifesto, and it his party that are doing all the damage.

Rollocks wrote:
If she was self employed she would of been back to work next day

This lady had major surgery so I doubt very much if she would have been back at work the 'next day'...you idiot..!

Corporations are avoiding £120 billion in tax in Britain every year. That could pay off the deficit in one go.

But instead of clamping down on that astronomical amount of corporate tax avoidance our government chooses persecute, harass, and drive to death, the sick, disabled and infirm. All in the name of chasing £1 billion of benefit fraud.

There is something very, very wrong with this picture.

Rollocks wrote:
If she was self employed she would of been back to work next day

I take it you know about these things then. What part of you has been removed by major surgery to give you this qualification?

I trust you are not just another right wing raver spending your days letting your broker keep you informed of your ever upward spiral of wealth.

The right wing have been getting us to fight their battles for them throughout history.

Pay back time is fast approaching!

Devils Advocate wrote:

Rollocks wrote:
If she was self employed she would of been back to work next day

I take it you know about these things then. What part of you has been removed by major surgery to give you this qualification?

I trust you are not just another right wing raver spending your days letting your broker keep you informed of your ever upward spiral of wealth.

The right wing have been getting us to fight their battles for them throughout history.

Pay back time is fast approaching!

"What part of you has been removed by major surgery to give you this qualification? "

His brain.

terrible way to treat a human being......that's the problem with life today....nobody gives a XXX about anybodyelse.

YES rich carol is back from her wonderful holiday. Hope you all missed me ?

We never seem to get the whole story of what really is happenning. Im sure with this operation she is not faking it so she can go bopping at a disco.

Devils Advocate wrote:

Rollocks wrote:
If she was self employed she would of been back to work next day

I take it you know about these things then. What part of you has been removed by major surgery to give you this qualification?

I trust you are not just another right wing raver spending your days letting your broker keep you informed of your ever upward spiral of wealth.

The right wing have been getting us to fight their battles for them throughout history.

Pay back time is fast approaching!

"What part of you has been removed " his brain

And this GP is reportedly working for Dept. of Works and Pensions - pity the genuinely disabled then

yes it's terminal. there is no cure for being workshy

Conflict of interest if this GP is trying to save the govt money yet giving sick notes for people. Seems one pays him more than the other. At least we all care enough.
Time for society to claim big time at these injustices. Time for those that do abuse the system (not this lady) to be accused of theft - to claim sick benefit and not be sick is just that and others are tarred with the same brush.

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Corporations are avoiding £120 billion in tax in Britain every year. That could pay off the deficit in one go. But instead of clamping down on that astronomical amount of corporate tax avoidance our government chooses persecute, harass, and drive to death, the sick, disabled and infirm. All in the name of chasing £1 billion of benefit fraud. There is something very, very wrong with this picture.

Too true. If there was any justice we'd be burning Cameron on the bonfire.

asbo industries inc wrote:
yes it's terminal. there is no cure for being workshy

asbo, I could easily cure you of your workshy problems, were I to be put in charge.

However, the main problem this country has is the insurmountable greed, self importance and downright evil shown by the self-ordained "Elite" of the right wing.

Worse still is the fact that apparently ordinary people are walking around with masochistic tendencies. How else would this current minority have obtained Governance?

They are now showing programmes on the BBC where "private enterprise" is the only way forward and how "wrong" is communism in China, with it's single party politics. They go to great lengths to show that, in China, some people are better off than others, whilst still yet others are worse off. Well, that's much different to the UK then!

I think the French had it right when the brought out Madame guillotine. Our imperious leaders forced us into a long and bloody war with them so that we would not try and help the French get rid of the "Master/ slave" politics that is the way of life here. We are going to have to get back to basics and soon!

looks like the question time audience is in da house tonight. 2 years of sorting out the methodone addicted benefit classes and there's rebellion. the politically active are slaves and it's legal lol!!

Devils Advocate wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:
yes it's terminal. there is no cure for being workshy

asbo, I could easily cure you of your workshy problems, were I to be put in charge.

However, the main problem this country has is the insurmountable greed, self importance and downright evil shown by the self-ordained "Elite" of the right wing.

Worse still is the fact that apparently ordinary people are walking around with masochistic tendencies. How else would this current minority have obtained Governance?

They are now showing programmes on the BBC where "private enterprise" is the only way forward and how "wrong" is communism in China, with it's single party politics. They go to great lengths to show that, in China, some people are better off than others, whilst still yet others are worse off. Well, that's much different to the UK then!

I think the French had it right when the brought out Madame guillotine. Our imperious leaders forced us into a long and bloody war with them so that we would not try and help the French get rid of the "Master/ slave" politics that is the way of life here. We are going to have to get back to basics and soon!

you should try some firsthand research on the difference between china and here...there's a slow boat departing soon. why don't you share a berth with duksuk. 5 minutes in and you'll be consigning your communist nonsense to the dustbin pronto.

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Corporations are avoiding £120 billion in tax in Britain every year. That could pay off the deficit in one go.

But instead of clamping down on that astronomical amount of corporate tax avoidance our government chooses persecute, harass, and drive to death, the sick, disabled and infirm. All in the name of chasing £1 billion of benefit fraud.

There is something very, very wrong with this picture.

so you support benefit fraud? can i quote you?

Rich\Carol wrote:
YES rich carol is back from her wonderful holiday. Hope you all missed me ?

We never seem to get the whole story of what really is happenning. Im sure with this operation she is not faking it so she can go bopping at a disco.

Hi Rich Carol. Welcome back Missed your comments and views while you were away. You are a wise lady. People would be well advised to listen to you.

Rich\Carol wrote:
YES rich carol is back from her wonderful holiday. Hope you all missed me ?

We never seem to get the whole story of what really is happenning. Im sure with this operation she is not faking it so she can go bopping at a disco.

Hi Rich Carol. Forgot to ask you where you went for your holiday.

asbo industries inc wrote:

Devils Advocate wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:
yes it's terminal. there is no cure for being workshy

asbo, I could easily cure you of your workshy problems, were I to be put in charge.

However, the main problem this country has is the insurmountable greed, self importance and downright evil shown by the self-ordained "Elite" of the right wing.

Worse still is the fact that apparently ordinary people are walking around with masochistic tendencies. How else would this current minority have obtained Governance?

They are now showing programmes on the BBC where "private enterprise" is the only way forward and how "wrong" is communism in China, with it's single party politics. They go to great lengths to show that, in China, some people are better off than others, whilst still yet others are worse off. Well, that's much different to the UK then!

I think the French had it right when the brought out Madame guillotine. Our imperious leaders forced us into a long and bloody war with them so that we would not try and help the French get rid of the "Master/ slave" politics that is the way of life here. We are going to have to get back to basics and soon!

you should try some firsthand research on the difference between china and here...there's a slow boat departing soon. why don't you share a berth with duksuk. 5 minutes in and you'll be consigning your communist nonsense to the dustbin pronto.

25 years time and , if you are still here you will be enjoying Chinese take away, as they take away your arrogance and your sure fire self importance. As for me, I will be long gone, a victim of your wonderful leaders' secrets. In this case, the one that they kept from us for over 100 years. That was that asbestos directly kills people who breath it's dust. Give me communism every time. I read all about Russian democracy and surprisingly, my communist nonsense makes more sense to the hard working man than any of your so called democracy. Just a shame that, partly by your anonymity but mainly by the greed of those that run your life, I will miss the day that you finally scream: "That's not fair!" and wake up to what you have done.

i preferred the last poster moniker. show me somewhere - anywhere communism worked and wasn't imposed by a brutal regime. russian democracy...that's a good one. communism is all about lining the pockets of the few at the top....just look at the wealth of hu jintao and vladimir putin.
btw you might have to enlighten me who my leader is. you see our politics are not that dissimilar after all.

Aint it just the truth wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Corporations are avoiding £120 billion in tax in Britain every year. That could pay off the deficit in one go. But instead of clamping down on that astronomical amount of corporate tax avoidance our government chooses persecute, harass, and drive to death, the sick, disabled and infirm. All in the name of chasing £1 billion of benefit fraud. There is something very, very wrong with this picture.

Too true. If there was any justice we'd be burning Cameron on the bonfire.

there's not a shred of truth in the post (it could almost be one of your posts - joke btw). if you ask for evidence (don't btw) of the numbers he'll just post the link to one of his politically active chocolate oven glove blogs.

Steve Rowe wrote:

Rich\Carol wrote:
YES rich carol is back from her wonderful holiday. Hope you all missed me ?

We never seem to get the whole story of what really is happenning. Im sure with this operation she is not faking it so she can go bopping at a disco.

Hi Rich Carol. Forgot to ask you where you went for your holiday.

Phi Phi Island Thailand. Very nice thank you.

asbo industries inc wrote:
i preferred the last poster moniker. show me somewhere - anywhere communism worked and wasn't imposed by a brutal regime. russian democracy...that's a good one. communism is all about lining the pockets of the few at the top....just look at the wealth of hu jintao and vladimir putin.
btw you might have to enlighten me who my leader is. you see our politics are not that dissimilar after all.

I knew something was wrong, but could not put my finger on it. You are right, this happened when I upgraded to windows 8. Funny thing is, I hadn't noticed. Still, well done you for spotting it! Microsoft did that by the way, my old passwords have gone onto my emails and all sorts.
Oh, and one last thing, I worked for a short while behind the iron curtain, setting up a factory. It was not as bad as we were told. It lacked the "Them and us" at least at the working level. Glad to get home though, because in those days I felt that this was my country.

Devils Advocate wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:
i preferred the last poster moniker. show me somewhere - anywhere communism worked and wasn't imposed by a brutal regime. russian democracy...that's a good one. communism is all about lining the pockets of the few at the top....just look at the wealth of hu jintao and vladimir putin.
btw you might have to enlighten me who my leader is. you see our politics are not that dissimilar after all.

I knew something was wrong, but could not put my finger on it. You are right, this happened when I upgraded to windows 8. Funny thing is, I hadn't noticed. Still, well done you for spotting it! Microsoft did that by the way, my old passwords have gone onto my emails and all sorts.
Oh, and one last thing, I worked for a short while behind the iron curtain, setting up a factory. It was not as bad as we were told. It lacked the "Them and us" at least at the working level. Glad to get home though, because in those days I felt that this was my country.

power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. to be fair most, though not all, politicians are the same, look at dennis mac (hang your head in) shame. there are very few genuine public servants anymore excepting many nurses.

asbo industries inc wrote:

Devils Advocate wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:
i preferred the last poster moniker. show me somewhere - anywhere communism worked and wasn't imposed by a brutal regime. russian democracy...that's a good one. communism is all about lining the pockets of the few at the top....just look at the wealth of hu jintao and vladimir putin.
btw you might have to enlighten me who my leader is. you see our politics are not that dissimilar after all.

I knew something was wrong, but could not put my finger on it. You are right, this happened when I upgraded to windows 8. Funny thing is, I hadn't noticed. Still, well done you for spotting it! Microsoft did that by the way, my old passwords have gone onto my emails and all sorts.
Oh, and one last thing, I worked for a short while behind the iron curtain, setting up a factory. It was not as bad as we were told. It lacked the "Them and us" at least at the working level. Glad to get home though, because in those days I felt that this was my country.

power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. to be fair most, though not all, politicians are the same, look at dennis mac (hang your head in) shame. there are very few genuine public servants anymore excepting many nurses.

That's why currently there's a top paedophile strenuously denying he was a tory.

http://tompride.word
press.com/2012/11/03
/top-paedophile-deni
es-allegations-he-wa
s-a-tory/

Dr Babar needs to be struck off.

millions of people claim benefits in the UK , long term unemployed , this lady works full time , had a big operation and should have been given another 4 weeks off. Alcoholics are regularly signed off long term for having an 'illness'

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:

Devils Advocate wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:
i preferred the last poster moniker. show me somewhere - anywhere communism worked and wasn't imposed by a brutal regime. russian democracy...that's a good one. communism is all about lining the pockets of the few at the top....just look at the wealth of hu jintao and vladimir putin.
btw you might have to enlighten me who my leader is. you see our politics are not that dissimilar after all.

I knew something was wrong, but could not put my finger on it. You are right, this happened when I upgraded to windows 8. Funny thing is, I hadn't noticed. Still, well done you for spotting it! Microsoft did that by the way, my old passwords have gone onto my emails and all sorts.
Oh, and one last thing, I worked for a short while behind the iron curtain, setting up a factory. It was not as bad as we were told. It lacked the "Them and us" at least at the working level. Glad to get home though, because in those days I felt that this was my country.

power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. to be fair most, though not all, politicians are the same, look at dennis mac (hang your head in) shame. there are very few genuine public servants anymore excepting many nurses.

That's why currently there's a top paedophile strenuously denying he was a tory.

http://tompride.word

press.com/2012/11/03

/top-paedophile-deni

es-allegations-he-wa

s-a-tory/

before i don't open it up...another one of your blogs?

What a disgrace. This lady should be signed off work for several months, no questions asked. One thing niggles me though - what was her employer doing not supporting her in her illness? Did her employer not pay sick pay?

that is probably what this dr babar was after. Come off the sick benefit, let your employer take responsibility.

Come the revolution..........
.....

Well done Dr Babar. Get the malingerers back to work.

So while shes forced back to work and to pay her taxes, you get scumbags who sit at home drinking special brew, payed for by people like her good self. This is where this country is going wrong.

Basildon.lad.21 wrote:
So while shes forced back to work and to pay her taxes, you get scumbags who sit at home drinking special brew, payed for by people like her good self. This is where this country is going wrong.

Yes.

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Corporations are avoiding £120 billion in tax in Britain every year. That could pay off the deficit in one go.

But instead of clamping down on that astronomical amount of corporate tax avoidance our government chooses persecute, harass, and drive to death, the sick, disabled and infirm. All in the name of chasing £1 billion of benefit fraud.

There is something very, very wrong with this picture.

I couldn't agree more. It is sick that the government can get away with this.

If the good people further up the ladder would just pay a little of their taxes, perhaps I would agree with you. But here we have an obviously sick woman being ordered back to work by the DSS because it is only the workers and the retired pensioners who are actually paying tax. Try stomping out the VAT fiddles, the expenses fiddles, the "I don't live in Britain" fiddles and that will go a long way toward supporting the sick. Then add a real penalty for fiddlers, albeit tax or injury or whatever, then we may see incentive return to Britain. This giving everything to the Elite is plain nuts!

this woman has been signed off as fit to go back to work. if she spent a bit more of her energy towards recuperation and getting in the right mindset rather than running to the echo and bleating on their doorstep i'm sure the recovery would be even swifter

Nebs wrote:

Basildon.lad.21 wrote:
So while shes forced back to work and to pay her taxes, you get scumbags who sit at home drinking special brew, payed for by people like her good self. This is where this country is going wrong.

Yes.

Yes, yes.

asbo industries inc wrote:
this woman has been signed off as fit to go back to work. if she spent a bit more of her energy towards recuperation and getting in the right mindset rather than running to the echo and bleating on their doorstep i'm sure the recovery would be even swifter

Let's hope you never have to have your stomach removed and get sent back to work three weeks later .. erm, second thoughts you don't work do you despite being under pensionable age, hmmm.

Aint it just the truth wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:
this woman has been signed off as fit to go back to work. if she spent a bit more of her energy towards recuperation and getting in the right mindset rather than running to the echo and bleating on their doorstep i'm sure the recovery would be even swifter

Let's hope you never have to have your stomach removed and get sent back to work three weeks later .. erm, second thoughts you don't work do you despite being under pensionable age, hmmm.

did you come down in the last shower? is this a balanced article? an independent gp has deemed her fit for work. why would you question his findings?

Are you off with the fairies? Have you ever had a major operation such as having your stomach removed? The hospital who operated said she would "need between three and six months to fully recover" and "another month off at least to recuperate". I should think they are the best judges of this wouldn't you?
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Btw it says Doctor Babar worked for the Department for Work and Pensions tribunal board so he is far from independent, he is a Government lackey responsible for implementing the Govts new welfare/incapacity regime which is being criticised for unfair decisions such as denying benefits to people who are clearly unwell but who don't meet Camerons new narrow criteria.
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I know someone else caught up in this mess who is suffering from a genetic disease which is fusing his bones together. He worked for 45 years but he can barely walk now, can't drive and struggles to do almost everything but he has been judged as fit to work as he can just about manage to walk 50 yards albeit with great difficulty but in reality he is an old man who is truly disabled and never going to get better. Other cases have been reported in the press where the Govt have denied benefits to people with serious cancers and people so ill they have died whilst waiting for their appeal to be heard.
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We all agree that fat teenagers and heroin addicts should not be classified as unable to work and receive extra benefits but Camerons crackdown is so severe it is turning down genuine cases such as the woman above and my friend, which is shameful but typical of the nasty party. Like I said before I hope you never find yourself in this position.

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Corporations are avoiding £120 billion in tax in Britain every year. That could pay off the deficit in one go. But instead of clamping down on that astronomical amount of corporate tax avoidance our government chooses persecute, harass, and drive to death, the sick, disabled and infirm. All in the name of chasing £1 billion of benefit fraud. There is something very, very wrong with this picture.

While I understand what you are staying there is a second side to the coin. These corporations are employing many thousands, who are paying tax and NI. If the Government came down on them like a ton of bricks, how many would simply shut up shop, making their UK employees unemployed and forcing them onto benefits?

Ian P wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote: Corporations are avoiding £120 billion in tax in Britain every year. That could pay off the deficit in one go. But instead of clamping down on that astronomical amount of corporate tax avoidance our government chooses persecute, harass, and drive to death, the sick, disabled and infirm. All in the name of chasing £1 billion of benefit fraud. There is something very, very wrong with this picture.

While I understand what you are staying there is a second side to the coin. These corporations are employing many thousands, who are paying tax and NI. If the Government came down on them like a ton of bricks, how many would simply shut up shop, making their UK employees unemployed and forcing them onto benefits?

Why bother collecting corporation tax at all then? Your argument is spurious and highly offensive to all the businesses who do pay UK tax. Tax avoidance or evasion is immoral and unfair by any standards. Do you live on the same planet as everyone else?

Aint it just the truth wrote:

Ian P wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote: Corporations are avoiding £120 billion in tax in Britain every year. That could pay off the deficit in one go. But instead of clamping down on that astronomical amount of corporate tax avoidance our government chooses persecute, harass, and drive to death, the sick, disabled and infirm. All in the name of chasing £1 billion of benefit fraud. There is something very, very wrong with this picture.

While I understand what you are staying there is a second side to the coin. These corporations are employing many thousands, who are paying tax and NI. If the Government came down on them like a ton of bricks, how many would simply shut up shop, making their UK employees unemployed and forcing them onto benefits?

Why bother collecting corporation tax at all then? Your argument is spurious and highly offensive to all the businesses who do pay UK tax. Tax avoidance or evasion is immoral and unfair by any standards. Do you live on the same planet as everyone else?

You miss understand me. I do agree that everyone should pay their fair share of tax. Unfortunately, non payment of tax by big corporations is not new, it has been going on for years, not only under this Government but former Governments as well. What I was trying to point out is that if these corporations chose to shutdown unemployment and benefit costs would increase and tax income would go down. I have no doubt that the Government has worked the numbers and knows exactly what the financial affect would be.

Then you have far more faith in the government than I do. Do you really think that people like Phillip Green would close all his businesses down if he was forced to pay tax in the UK rather than siphoning all the profits off to his wife in Luxembourg? Then you are extremely naive sir. The trouble is that tax avoidance has become a hobby for everyone from BBC presenters to supply teachers and this is costing the country dearly. I even know local people who are doing this, an ex friend of mine made a killing in property development in the 80s but he set his 'rental empire' up in such a way that all the profits were sent abroad and he boasts that he has never paid a penny in UK income tax. That is quite simply not right whether it is little local businesses or huge multi national corporations.

Twinings and Gillette are two such firms that took their production abroad and simply sacked their workforce. This caused massive unemployment in the towns concerned. With the use of sweat shops their manufacturing costs plummeted. So did the consumer benefit? Not one iota! prices actually increased (check out Gillette and Wilkinson shaving gear.)

However, the answer to the perceived blackmail by these trough huggers is simple. List their names, list their crimes and, as a nation, boycott their products. The "I'm Backing Britain" campaign did a lot of this in the 1960's. But please remember before you say it was not the Tory government to blame, it was that government that lifted the restrictions on how much currency you could take abroad and that, combined with the well implanted loopholes in the tax system, enabled those people to cut and run when they proved, especially in our car industry, that they only know how to rake in their money, not how to earn it! And now they are attacking the sick simply because they can. Who on here, that is critical of the lady concerned, has actually suffering her problems and is still doing a full day's work? I would lay money that not one of you is. If that is the case, then you are proving yourself trollers and, as such should be totally ashamed of yourself!

I've been telling Asbo he's a troll for years, hasn't stopped him peddling his extreme right wing views though.

not right wing. i just have a low tolerance for bs and workshy blood suckers

Rich\Carol wrote:

Steve Rowe wrote:

Rich\Carol wrote:
YES rich carol is back from her wonderful holiday. Hope you all missed me ?

We never seem to get the whole story of what really is happenning. Im sure with this operation she is not faking it so she can go bopping at a disco.

Hi Rich Carol. Forgot to ask you where you went for your holiday.

Phi Phi Island Thailand. Very nice thank you.

Has it recovered now then from the tsunami?, it was quite badly hit then!

Rich\Carol wrote:

Steve Rowe wrote:

Rich\Carol wrote:
YES rich carol is back from her wonderful holiday. Hope you all missed me ?

We never seem to get the whole story of what really is happenning. Im sure with this operation she is not faking it so she can go bopping at a disco.

Hi Rich Carol. Forgot to ask you where you went for your holiday.

Phi Phi Island Thailand. Very nice thank you.

Has it recovered now then from the tsunami?, it was quite badly hit then!

Brunning999 wrote:

Nebs wrote:

Basildon.lad.21 wrote:
So while shes forced back to work and to pay her taxes, you get scumbags who sit at home drinking special brew, payed for by people like her good self. This is where this country is going wrong.

Yes.

Yes, yes.

And lets not forget we pay taxes to help keep the scumbags dangerous dogs fed(see story about staffie killing pet) Down the toilet is i think where this country is heading.

Devils Advocate wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:

Devils Advocate wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:
yes it's terminal. there is no cure for being workshy

asbo, I could easily cure you of your workshy problems, were I to be put in charge.

However, the main problem this country has is the insurmountable greed, self importance and downright evil shown by the self-ordained "Elite" of the right wing.

Worse still is the fact that apparently ordinary people are walking around with masochistic tendencies. How else would this current minority have obtained Governance?

They are now showing programmes on the BBC where "private enterprise" is the only way forward and how "wrong" is communism in China, with it's single party politics. They go to great lengths to show that, in China, some people are better off than others, whilst still yet others are worse off. Well, that's much different to the UK then!

I think the French had it right when the brought out Madame guillotine. Our imperious leaders forced us into a long and bloody war with them so that we would not try and help the French get rid of the "Master/ slave" politics that is the way of life here. We are going to have to get back to basics and soon!

you should try some firsthand research on the difference between china and here...there's a slow boat departing soon. why don't you share a berth with duksuk. 5 minutes in and you'll be consigning your communist nonsense to the dustbin pronto.

25 years time and , if you are still here you will be enjoying Chinese take away, as they take away your arrogance and your sure fire self importance. As for me, I will be long gone, a victim of your wonderful leaders' secrets. In this case, the one that they kept from us for over 100 years. That was that asbestos directly kills people who breath it's dust. Give me communism every time. I read all about Russian democracy and surprisingly, my communist nonsense makes more sense to the hard working man than any of your so called democracy. Just a shame that, partly by your anonymity but mainly by the greed of those that run your life, I will miss the day that you finally scream: "That's not fair!" and wake up to what you have done.

"Give me communism every time"

Lol are you some kind of nut?