Girl, 10, died after drug blunder at Basildon Hospital (From Echo)

Bet we the usual halfhearted acceptance and apology from the trust, 'lessons have been learned' blah blah blah etc etc etc. And again I'm sure there will be very few real consequences of this for the trust, unlike the terrible ones for the poor children and their families involved in these incidents.

Care did not meet the standard.
Monitoring
Sick. These are the very basic and basis of our care in hospitals. Shame on them.What good are apologies to the families.In fact have they apologised.
How sad for the families. We are thinking of them.

was up there visiting a few weeks ago,over half the staff you couldnt understand properly the english was so bad so i bet they cant read it either

Dids wrote:
was up there visiting a few weeks ago,over half the staff you couldnt understand properly the english was so bad so i bet they cant read it either

I think you've hit the nail on the head

Basildon Hospital, it seems, is no place to get well. Too many bad practice issues seem to be centered around this hospital over the years. Rather than have an enquiry after each seperate issue, an enquiry should be set up to find out why so many of these issues have occured in the first place and everyone who has been found to have made decisions that have cause injury or death should not only be sacked, never to work in the profession again, but they should also be prosecuted.
It is about time a hard line is adopted in situations like this because if it is not we will continue to hear about these unfortunate situations occuring year in, year out, for ever more.

Rollocks wrote:

Dids wrote:
was up there visiting a few weeks ago,over half the staff you couldnt understand properly the english was so bad so i bet they cant read it either

I think you've hit the nail on the head

It certainly should be looked into. Their should be no issues of political correctness where human health and life are at stake.

I understand that recent occurrences at the hospital are treacherous and am fully sympathetic towards the families who have suffered as a result, it's horrendous. However I had my little boy in Basildon and have had a stay with him in Puffin wars to and I have to say the staff were great! I think thy the problem lies in a lack of direction from management... From the ward managers all the way to the directors.

Nurses & Doctors (particularly at a junior level) should be assisted by their piers not criticised... They work on the frontline everyday and as such they are the people who will eventually suffer the bad press, angry relatives etc.
Whatever you feel the need to do, please don't take it out on them!

How many more needless deaths will occur in this hospital before anything is done. I thought that with a change at the top things might improve but obviously not - as said above a proper shake up and overhaul is required and those not up to par need to be replaced.

It is always terrible when lives are lost, especially a child's but people always go straight for the Nurses throat before asking WHY has this happened? Don't just assume its the Nurses fault ..the "she's useless" attitude. Consider the factors for why these incidents happen. These nurses work their nuts off taking care of patience under quite frankly RIDICULOUS conditions, hours, facilities & support from managerial staff. The government to open its ears and listen to these nurse on the frontline. Increase the funding & stop trying to run a health service on a bl00dy shoestring.

Just my opinion!! wrote:
I understand that recent occurrences at the hospital are treacherous and am fully sympathetic towards the families who have suffered as a result, it's horrendous. However I had my little boy in Basildon and have had a stay with him in Puffin wars to and I have to say the staff were great! I think thy the problem lies in a lack of direction from management... From the ward managers all the way to the directors. Nurses & Doctors (particularly at a junior level) should be assisted by their piers not criticised... They work on the frontline everyday and as such they are the people who will eventually suffer the bad press, angry relatives etc. Whatever you feel the need to do, please don't take it out on them!

Thank you for your positive comments. You may have met my wife who works there and has the best interests of the child as a paramount concern. However, so many consultants may not have such a focused agenda and when instructing the clinical staff on matters of treatments/doses they don't always get it right!
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As for foreign speaking nurses and other staff members as posted by another commenter, if it wasn't for their dedication and hard work the NHS would not be able to function!!

The NHS kills more than 130,000 people every year.

Rochford Rob wrote:
The NHS kills more than 130,000 people every year.

If you are going to quote statistics please make sure you don't edit them to suit. Don't pipe up with irrelevant figures just to poke the fire.

This is not about termanilly ill ELDERLY patients. Start your riot elsewhere!

botany500 wrote:
It is always terrible when lives are lost, especially a child's but people always go straight for the Nurses throat before asking WHY has this happened? Don't just assume its the Nurses fault ..the "she's useless" attitude. Consider the factors for why these incidents happen. These nurses work their nuts off taking care of patience under quite frankly RIDICULOUS conditions, hours, facilities & support from managerial staff. The government to open its ears and listen to these nurse on the frontline. Increase the funding & stop trying to run a health service on a bl00dy shoestring.

stop trying to run a health service on a bloody shoestring, you are wrong the mighty NHS gets a hundred and ten billion pounds a year, most of the claims against the NHS are for neglect and bad managment and this poor child has died, basildon hospital gets into the news to many time for all the wrong reasons

botany500 wrote:

Rochford Rob wrote: The NHS kills more than 130,000 people every year.

If you are going to quote statistics please make sure you don't edit them to suit. Don't pipe up with irrelevant figures just to poke the fire. This is not about termanilly ill ELDERLY patients. Start your riot elsewhere!

Who made you moderator in chief? Go search the numbers yourself. Dirty hospitals, MRSA the list is as long as your arm, not just the terminally ill.

Irellevant? Glad you think that 130,000 + preventable deaths is irrevelant.

kennie wrote:

botany500 wrote:
It is always terrible when lives are lost, especially a child's but people always go straight for the Nurses throat before asking WHY has this happened? Don't just assume its the Nurses fault ..the "she's useless" attitude. Consider the factors for why these incidents happen. These nurses work their nuts off taking care of patience under quite frankly RIDICULOUS conditions, hours, facilities & support from managerial staff. The government to open its ears and listen to these nurse on the frontline. Increase the funding & stop trying to run a health service on a bl00dy shoestring.

stop trying to run a health service on a bloody shoestring, you are wrong the mighty NHS gets a hundred and ten billion pounds a year, most of the claims against the NHS are for neglect and bad managment and this poor child has died, basildon hospital gets into the news to many time for all the wrong reasons

Actually Kenny... You are wrong!!!
The NHS may have a government income... But compare that with the demand and you will soon realise that the funding given is NOT enough!!

As an NHS employee (not for BTUH) I can honestly say that resources are stretched beyond recognition... The general public often use some of the services inappropriately and therefore cause problems further down the line! Leading to, already understaffed, wards being left without any available beds and genuine patients building up in A&E, unable to get ambulances etc. the flow of a hospital relies on a very delicate balance and that is disrupted by inappropriate service users.

Once again, can I just reinforce... This is not the Nurses' faults... They are overstretched and often do not get the time they need to do certain checks etc... Most don't even get to take advantage of their unpaid break time... They work through it!!!

Rochford Rob wrote:
The NHS kills more than 130,000 people every year.

I think that this is an absolutely devastating case for all involved and i feel deeply sorry for the families. However when slagging of the NHS do you stop to think about how many lives they actually save. About how this number would be hugely bigger without them. About how staff work tirelessly round the clock to care for patients. From the little things such as washing them in the morning to the massive time critical emergencies that could one day save you or a relatives life. You must allow space for human errors, although this is an absolutely terrible outcome no one is perfect, we all make mistakes. So you can all jump to pointing the finger at the NHS but im sure you will all be the first ones to rely on them when you need them!

Just my opinion!! wrote:

kennie wrote:

botany500 wrote:
It is always terrible when lives are lost, especially a child's but people always go straight for the Nurses throat before asking WHY has this happened? Don't just assume its the Nurses fault ..the "she's useless" attitude. Consider the factors for why these incidents happen. These nurses work their nuts off taking care of patience under quite frankly RIDICULOUS conditions, hours, facilities & support from managerial staff. The government to open its ears and listen to these nurse on the frontline. Increase the funding & stop trying to run a health service on a bl00dy shoestring.

stop trying to run a health service on a bloody shoestring, you are wrong the mighty NHS gets a hundred and ten billion pounds a year, most of the claims against the NHS are for neglect and bad managment and this poor child has died, basildon hospital gets into the news to many time for all the wrong reasons

Actually Kenny... You are wrong!!!
The NHS may have a government income... But compare that with the demand and you will soon realise that the funding given is NOT enough!!

As an NHS employee (not for BTUH) I can honestly say that resources are stretched beyond recognition... The general public often use some of the services inappropriately and therefore cause problems further down the line! Leading to, already understaffed, wards being left without any available beds and genuine patients building up in A&E, unable to get ambulances etc. the flow of a hospital relies on a very delicate balance and that is disrupted by inappropriate service users.

Once again, can I just reinforce... This is not the Nurses' faults... They are overstretched and often do not get the time they need to do certain checks etc... Most don't even get to take advantage of their unpaid break time... They work through it!!!

A so your always right I went to Basildon hospital four times to a&e with pains in my left wrist and they would not look into the cause I ended up going to four different hospitals that amounted to twelve visits then had MRI scans and it found I had ruptured the tendons then needed I open hand operation something that could have been avoided, my brother five visits to his GPs over two weeks pleading for a referral then when got one he was found to have leukaemia , my brother in law went time and again to GPs and hospital then they found to late he had stomach cancer he died, me again went to GP and hospital over several years got no where became more and more ill then it was found I have a serious neurological condiction, but you are it seems quite happy with the NHS performance if people suffered or die is all down to not enough money in your thinking get real the NHS is paying out millions every year for mistakes and neglect this poor child has lost her life and I feel for her family, also anger again for a NHS hospital that let her down through its negligence .

I totally agree with botany500!

If staff were not so overrun then these mistakes would not happen! It's NOT that the nurses are incapable, the wards don't have enough staff to run safely which management seem incapable of organising!

I suggest people who just google random quotes wind their neck in and actually visit a ward on a busy night to see what the nurses have to deal with!

kennie wrote:

Just my opinion!! wrote:

kennie wrote:

botany500 wrote:
It is always terrible when lives are lost, especially a child's but people always go straight for the Nurses throat before asking WHY has this happened? Don't just assume its the Nurses fault ..the "she's useless" attitude. Consider the factors for why these incidents happen. These nurses work their nuts off taking care of patience under quite frankly RIDICULOUS conditions, hours, facilities & support from managerial staff. The government to open its ears and listen to these nurse on the frontline. Increase the funding & stop trying to run a health service on a bl00dy shoestring.

stop trying to run a health service on a bloody shoestring, you are wrong the mighty NHS gets a hundred and ten billion pounds a year, most of the claims against the NHS are for neglect and bad managment and this poor child has died, basildon hospital gets into the news to many time for all the wrong reasons

Actually Kenny... You are wrong!!!
The NHS may have a government income... But compare that with the demand and you will soon realise that the funding given is NOT enough!!

As an NHS employee (not for BTUH) I can honestly say that resources are stretched beyond recognition... The general public often use some of the services inappropriately and therefore cause problems further down the line! Leading to, already understaffed, wards being left without any available beds and genuine patients building up in A&E, unable to get ambulances etc. the flow of a hospital relies on a very delicate balance and that is disrupted by inappropriate service users.

Once again, can I just reinforce... This is not the Nurses' faults... They are overstretched and often do not get the time they need to do certain checks etc... Most don't even get to take advantage of their unpaid break time... They work through it!!!

A so your always right I went to Basildon hospital four times to a&e with pains in my left wrist and they would not look into the cause I ended up going to four different hospitals that amounted to twelve visits then had MRI scans and it found I had ruptured the tendons then needed I open hand operation something that could have been avoided, my brother five visits to his GPs over two weeks pleading for a referral then when got one he was found to have leukaemia , my brother in law went time and again to GPs and hospital then they found to late he had stomach cancer he died, me again went to GP and hospital over several years got no where became more and more ill then it was found I have a serious neurological condiction, but you are it seems quite happy with the NHS performance if people suffered or die is all down to not enough money in your thinking get real the NHS is paying out millions every year for mistakes and neglect this poor child has lost her life and I feel for her family, also anger again for a NHS hospital that let her down through its negligence .

Maybe be thankful for the services that are provided for when things are diagnosed. For the surgeons that did your operation, for nurses that looked after. For the treatment that was available for your friends and family.

What happened to your brother in law is horrible but illnesses do occur and unfortunately sometimes people do die due to these illnesses. It is not fair to blame the NHS for this.

kennie wrote:

Just my opinion!! wrote:

kennie wrote:

botany500 wrote:
It is always terrible when lives are lost, especially a child's but people always go straight for the Nurses throat before asking WHY has this happened? Don't just assume its the Nurses fault ..the "she's useless" attitude. Consider the factors for why these incidents happen. These nurses work their nuts off taking care of patience under quite frankly RIDICULOUS conditions, hours, facilities & support from managerial staff. The government to open its ears and listen to these nurse on the frontline. Increase the funding & stop trying to run a health service on a bl00dy shoestring.

stop trying to run a health service on a bloody shoestring, you are wrong the mighty NHS gets a hundred and ten billion pounds a year, most of the claims against the NHS are for neglect and bad managment and this poor child has died, basildon hospital gets into the news to many time for all the wrong reasons

Actually Kenny... You are wrong!!!
The NHS may have a government income... But compare that with the demand and you will soon realise that the funding given is NOT enough!!

As an NHS employee (not for BTUH) I can honestly say that resources are stretched beyond recognition... The general public often use some of the services inappropriately and therefore cause problems further down the line! Leading to, already understaffed, wards being left without any available beds and genuine patients building up in A&E, unable to get ambulances etc. the flow of a hospital relies on a very delicate balance and that is disrupted by inappropriate service users.

Once again, can I just reinforce... This is not the Nurses' faults... They are overstretched and often do not get the time they need to do certain checks etc... Most don't even get to take advantage of their unpaid break time... They work through it!!!

A so your always right I went to Basildon hospital four times to a&e with pains in my left wrist and they would not look into the cause I ended up going to four different hospitals that amounted to twelve visits then had MRI scans and it found I had ruptured the tendons then needed I open hand operation something that could have been avoided, my brother five visits to his GPs over two weeks pleading for a referral then when got one he was found to have leukaemia , my brother in law went time and again to GPs and hospital then they found to late he had stomach cancer he died, me again went to GP and hospital over several years got no where became more and more ill then it was found I have a serious neurological condiction, but you are it seems quite happy with the NHS performance if people suffered or die is all down to not enough money in your thinking get real the NHS is paying out millions every year for mistakes and neglect this poor child has lost her life and I feel for her family, also anger again for a NHS hospital that let her down through its negligence .

Maybe be thankful for the services that are provided for when things are diagnosed. For the surgeons that did your operation, for nurses that looked after. For the treatment that was available for your friends and family.

What happened to your brother in law is horrible but illnesses do occur and unfortunately sometimes people do die due to these illnesses. It is not fair to blame the NHS for this.

First may I say that my heart goes out to these families. Such pain that they feel cannot be imagined.
But enough is enough. Too many such mistakes have happened in Basildon Hospital. My Dad's last hours were spent in Basildon unable to help himself with no bed clothes to cover him in a cold ward with windows open and no care available. His pleas for assistance were ignored.
My daughter-in-law recently gave birth after an horrendous experience with a nurse who could not speak proper English and was on ward that she had not been trained for. Luckily a doctor did intervene in time and we feel lucky that mother and baby did arrive home safely. I could go on with more such horror stories - some resulting in questionable deaths.
No more excuses! Cut-backs, lack of staff, lack of supervison what ever the cause IT MUST STOP NOW,
Basildon Hospital in general is far below the standard that people expect and deserve. My advice is should you need medical attention do your best to avoid Basildon Hospital.

janet25 wrote:
First may I say that my heart goes out to these families. Such pain that they feel cannot be imagined.
But enough is enough. Too many such mistakes have happened in Basildon Hospital. My Dad's last hours were spent in Basildon unable to help himself with no bed clothes to cover him in a cold ward with windows open and no care available. His pleas for assistance were ignored.
My daughter-in-law recently gave birth after an horrendous experience with a nurse who could not speak proper English and was on ward that she had not been trained for. Luckily a doctor did intervene in time and we feel lucky that mother and baby did arrive home safely. I could go on with more such horror stories - some resulting in questionable deaths.
No more excuses! Cut-backs, lack of staff, lack of supervison what ever the cause IT MUST STOP NOW,
Basildon Hospital in general is far below the standard that people expect and deserve. My advice is should you need medical attention do your best to avoid Basildon Hospital.

Janet thank you with love kennie.

kennie wrote:

Just my opinion!! wrote:

kennie wrote:

botany500 wrote:
It is always terrible when lives are lost, especially a child's but people always go straight for the Nurses throat before asking WHY has this happened? Don't just assume its the Nurses fault ..the "she's useless" attitude. Consider the factors for why these incidents happen. These nurses work their nuts off taking care of patience under quite frankly RIDICULOUS conditions, hours, facilities & support from managerial staff. The government to open its ears and listen to these nurse on the frontline. Increase the funding & stop trying to run a health service on a bl00dy shoestring.

stop trying to run a health service on a bloody shoestring, you are wrong the mighty NHS gets a hundred and ten billion pounds a year, most of the claims against the NHS are for neglect and bad managment and this poor child has died, basildon hospital gets into the news to many time for all the wrong reasons

Actually Kenny... You are wrong!!!
The NHS may have a government income... But compare that with the demand and you will soon realise that the funding given is NOT enough!!

As an NHS employee (not for BTUH) I can honestly say that resources are stretched beyond recognition... The general public often use some of the services inappropriately and therefore cause problems further down the line! Leading to, already understaffed, wards being left without any available beds and genuine patients building up in A&E, unable to get ambulances etc. the flow of a hospital relies on a very delicate balance and that is disrupted by inappropriate service users.

Once again, can I just reinforce... This is not the Nurses' faults... They are overstretched and often do not get the time they need to do certain checks etc... Most don't even get to take advantage of their unpaid break time... They work through it!!!

A so your always right I went to Basildon hospital four times to a&e with pains in my left wrist and they would not look into the cause I ended up going to four different hospitals that amounted to twelve visits then had MRI scans and it found I had ruptured the tendons then needed I open hand operation something that could have been avoided, my brother five visits to his GPs over two weeks pleading for a referral then when got one he was found to have leukaemia , my brother in law went time and again to GPs and hospital then they found to late he had stomach cancer he died, me again went to GP and hospital over several years got no where became more and more ill then it was found I have a serious neurological condiction, but you are it seems quite happy with the NHS performance if people suffered or die is all down to not enough money in your thinking get real the NHS is paying out millions every year for mistakes and neglect this poor child has lost her life and I feel for her family, also anger again for a NHS hospital that let her down through its negligence .

At no point have I said that I am always right... Just simply that you are wrong in this instance.

I'm sorry to hear of your brother-in-law's ordeal... It sounds awfull. Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure you will) but was this not missed by a GP? Who is actually employed by the local PCT & not BTUH? Can I also point out there has been no mention of A&E being at fault in this article, so I'm not sure where the argument for that started.

I am not saying that the hospital is faultless or that human error does not occur, I'm just simply asking that people use the appropriate services and do not go on a witch hunt for nurses. I can honestly say I have sat and watched the girls on the children's ward fly around without a moments reprieve.

Yes these circumstances are tragic... And I fully agree action needs to be taken to prevent this ever happening again, but surely to do that we need to get behind our Drs and Nurses rather than abuse them.

Let's not play the blame game... We are grown ups after all!