Work underway at Southend Airport terminal (From Echo)

Max Impact wrote:
Jayman/jollyboy/1111

11/Torys4Southend or whatever log in he is going to use will not be happy about this.

But creating jobs during the build and after once it is open is important anyone who objects to creating jobs is living in a world where they are more intrested in themeslves.

rjsizzler wrote:
Whenever I go to the Echo website my laptop sounds like it's about to take off.

Maybe it's all these airport stories.

billericay boy wrote:
I take it the uk border agency won't be needed there anymore. Turn the immigration control into a McDonalds and if you buy a happy meal you will get your asylum starter kit for free. ( no proof of identity needed).

notinwestcliffanymor
e wrote:
They don't mess around do they, do they not need planning permisson to extend 90 meters?

lawbreaker wrote:
An expansion for the airport. So more people, more traffic, more problems. Cant be a bad thing, because I hate Southend!

Olivia2847 wrote:

lawbreaker wrote:
An expansion for the airport. So more people, more traffic, more problems. Cant be a bad thing, because I hate Southend!

Move .....

lawbreaker wrote:

Olivia2847 wrote:

lawbreaker wrote:
An expansion for the airport. So more people, more traffic, more problems. Cant be a bad thing, because I hate Southend!

Move .....

I dont live in Southend! Im just saying how crap it is. over rated town.

Nebs wrote:

lawbreaker wrote:

Olivia2847 wrote:

lawbreaker wrote:
An expansion for the airport. So more people, more traffic, more problems. Cant be a bad thing, because I hate Southend!

Move .....

I dont live in Southend! Im just saying how crap it is. over rated town.

Which borough has the privilege of your residence?

lawbreaker wrote:
An expansion for the airport. So more people, more traffic, more problems. Cant be a bad thing, because I hate Southend!

rjsizzler wrote:
Whenever I go to the Echo website my laptop sounds like it's about to take off.

Maybe it's all these airport stories.

jolllyboy wrote:
Told its going to happen and plans just past one week. Work starts the next. Why does everything be a secret till the last minute.

jayman wrote:
in other news..

The second coming of Christ?... Jesus seen in westcliff

meteor impact in Leigh. residents react to better taste in the tap water since the impact..

cure for all illness and diseases found by Southend scientist.

Southend is one of the largest towns in the UK with hundreds of major employers contributing to the string of long established local bushinesses. local residents react to this discovery. Beth hummingbottom said to our reporter "i was stunned to discover that Southend had more then one business.. i thought it was just the airport and nothing else" read the full story in tomorrows echo.

Max Impact wrote:

jayman wrote:
in other news..

The second coming of Christ?... Jesus seen in westcliff

meteor impact in Leigh. residents react to better taste in the tap water since the impact..

cure for all illness and diseases found by Southend scientist.

Southend is one of the largest towns in the UK with hundreds of major employers contributing to the string of long established local bushinesses. local residents react to this discovery. Beth hummingbottom said to our reporter "i was stunned to discover that Southend had more then one business.. i thought it was just the airport and nothing else" read the full story in tomorrows echo.

So how many people do you employ?

jayman wrote:

Max Impact wrote:

jayman wrote:
in other news..

The second coming of Christ?... Jesus seen in westcliff

meteor impact in Leigh. residents react to better taste in the tap water since the impact..

cure for all illness and diseases found by Southend scientist.

Southend is one of the largest towns in the UK with hundreds of major employers contributing to the string of long established local bushinesses. local residents react to this discovery. Beth hummingbottom said to our reporter "i was stunned to discover that Southend had more then one business.. i thought it was just the airport and nothing else" read the full story in tomorrows echo.

So how many people do you employ?

well..

two footmen
five butlers
five chamber maids
a groundsman
a game keeper
and a driver

im not sure who i employ on the lower estate. Charles handles all those things.

oh and there has to be al least seven hundred hands at the asbestos factory, I'm a responsible employer. i only ask the under tens to sweep the dusty floor...

lawbreaker wrote:
An expansion for the airport. So more people, more traffic, more problems. Cant be a bad thing, because I hate Southend!

lawbreaker wrote:
An expansion for the airport. So more people, more traffic, more problems. Cant be a bad thing, because I hate Southend!

Max Impact wrote:

jayman wrote:

Max Impact wrote:

jayman wrote: in other news.. The second coming of Christ?... Jesus seen in westcliff meteor impact in Leigh. residents react to better taste in the tap water since the impact.. cure for all illness and diseases found by Southend scientist. Southend is one of the largest towns in the UK with hundreds of major employers contributing to the string of long established local bushinesses. local residents react to this discovery. Beth hummingbottom said to our reporter "i was stunned to discover that Southend had more then one business.. i thought it was just the airport and nothing else" read the full story in tomorrows echo.

So how many people do you employ?

well.. two footmen five butlers five chamber maids a groundsman a game keeper and a driver im not sure who i employ on the lower estate. Charles handles all those things. oh and there has to be al least seven hundred hands at the asbestos factory, I'm a responsible employer. i only ask the under tens to sweep the dusty floor...

Your lack of wit, proves that you offer employment to nobody, so why moan when jobs are being created. Are you one of these people that will moan about a compnay if you are turned down for a job because your skills are lacking in the area of compnay work in. Would you agree that the airport is a major and important employment centre for Southend, that it has created a large number of jobs that would not have come to this area of Essex had the airport not expanded.

Max Impact wrote:
Jayman/jollyboy/1111

11/Torys4Southend or whatever log in he is going to use will not be happy about this.

But creating jobs during the build and after once it is open is important anyone who objects to creating jobs is living in a world where they are more intrested in themeslves.

Mannersway wrote:

lawbreaker wrote:
An expansion for the airport. So more people, more traffic, more problems. Cant be a bad thing, because I hate Southend!

I love my Southend, might not be perfect but better than a lot of places in the UK so pleased with how the Airport is doing.
O.K. so where is the wonderful place you live then?

j-w wrote:
I cant believe someone has gone to the bother of multiple logins or manipulating by nefarious means the post scoring system. This has been happening on a few stories lately, where as most comments get a 1 or two or minus 1 or two suddenly anti airport/ anti council or environmental type posts get double figure scores, whilst the opposite views are now getting high minus scores. (a 180 degree turnaround on past history). You wouldn't have to Walker too far, I bet, to find the culprit in his den.

Max Impact wrote:

j-w wrote:
I cant believe someone has gone to the bother of multiple logins or manipulating by nefarious means the post scoring system. This has been happening on a few stories lately, where as most comments get a 1 or two or minus 1 or two suddenly anti airport/ anti council or environmental type posts get double figure scores, whilst the opposite views are now getting high minus scores. (a 180 degree turnaround on past history). You wouldn't have to Walker too far, I bet, to find the culprit in his den.

Why I always say they should only permit pop3 email addresses with IP tracking.

JeffMo wrote:
Money to burn by expanding the terminal as this generates profits but nothing is being spent to improve the compromised safety of aircraft and passengers at the airport.

It will all end in tears when the first easyjet aircraft ends up on the railway line at the end of Southend’s short narrow runway.

Thames Gateway wrote:
Very well said Brunning999. The silent majority are right with you on that.

JeffMo wrote:
Money to burn by expanding the terminal as this generates profits but nothing is being spent to improve the compromised safety of aircraft and passengers at the airport.

It will all end in tears when the first easyjet aircraft ends up on the railway line at the end of Southend’s short narrow runway.

supershrimper wrote:

lawbreaker wrote:
An expansion for the airport. So more people, more traffic, more problems. Cant be a bad thing, because I hate Southend!

Then why are you on the Southend news website?

pipeman wrote:
oh no.... the town will be devastated...! 12 flights a second/24 hours a day, 90 million pax a year, cars stacked 12 high at the Harp House roundabout, aircraft deliberately flying so far below the glideslope the pilots can see what folks are having for dinner, no one using the train station because they are carrying luggage, oh and the failed four members of 'we so hate the airport we want the kill it off whilst stating we don't'/S.A.E.N protesting at the airport gates, what ever shall we do...!!??

ps, great news, I very much look forward to using the extended terminal next year...lol

Max Impact wrote:

Nebs wrote:

lawbreaker wrote:

Olivia2847 wrote:

lawbreaker wrote:
An expansion for the airport. So more people, more traffic, more problems. Cant be a bad thing, because I hate Southend!

Move .....

I dont live in Southend! Im just saying how crap it is. over rated town.

Which borough has the privilege of your residence?

So why is it posting on a Southend story, just another troll, probably from Canvey or Basildon.

lawbreaker wrote:

Max Impact wrote:

Nebs wrote:

lawbreaker wrote:

Olivia2847 wrote:

lawbreaker wrote: An expansion for the airport. So more people, more traffic, more problems. Cant be a bad thing, because I hate Southend!

Move .....

I dont live in Southend! Im just saying how crap it is. over rated town.

Which borough has the privilege of your residence?

So why is it posting on a Southend story, just another troll, probably from Canvey or Basildon.

I live right next to Lakeside.

Biker One wrote:
On a sort of related topic, can anyone say why the Harp House roundabout is such a gridlocked mess at the weekend? Fortunately when I was visiting the area I was on my bike, the car drivers were not so happy!!

JeffMo wrote:
" So come on, lets have this evidence of compromised safety, I am sure the much smarter people at the CAA whose job it is to check these things will be gratified that you spotted it."

The church is so close to the side of the runway that special permission had to be given to allow operations. This special permission is under a yearly review.
A couple of weeks ago the airport shut down for two days due fog as no pilot wanted to take a chance with that church so close. Add to that a non-standard narrow runway and a short runway that is in kissing distance of the railway line plus a primitiveCAT1 ILS that can’t cope with fog and it is an accident waiting to happen. Google air crashes at Southend and see how many aircraft have overshot the runway and crashed into the railway line. Yes the runway is now longer but the aircraft are much faster than the old piston aircraft that used to fly from Southend.

j-w wrote:

Biker One wrote:
On a sort of related topic, can anyone say why the Harp House roundabout is such a gridlocked mess at the weekend? Fortunately when I was visiting the area I was on my bike, the car drivers were not so happy!!

Because of the shoppers going into the retail park. The park has speed humps too near the entrance so everything slows down too much which then backs out onto the roundabout.

tophatdt wrote:
something that needs to get sorted out........i think Heathrow and Gatwick would not tolerate such a crazy situation!

JeffMo wrote:
" So come on, lets have this evidence of compromised safety, I am sure the much smarter people at the CAA whose job it is to check these things will be gratified that you spotted it."

The church is so close to the side of the runway that special permission had to be given to allow operations. This special permission is under a yearly review.
A couple of weeks ago the airport shut down for two days due fog as no pilot wanted to take a chance with that church so close. Add to that a non-standard narrow runway and a short runway that is in kissing distance of the railway line plus a primitiveCAT1 ILS that can’t cope with fog and it is an accident waiting to happen. Google air crashes at Southend and see how many aircraft have overshot the runway and crashed into the railway line. Yes the runway is now longer but the aircraft are much faster than the old piston aircraft that used to fly from Southend.

Max Impact wrote:

JeffMo wrote:
" So come on, lets have this evidence of compromised safety, I am sure the much smarter people at the CAA whose job it is to check these things will be gratified that you spotted it."

The church is so close to the side of the runway that special permission had to be given to allow operations. This special permission is under a yearly review.
A couple of weeks ago the airport shut down for two days due fog as no pilot wanted to take a chance with that church so close. Add to that a non-standard narrow runway and a short runway that is in kissing distance of the railway line plus a primitiveCAT1 ILS that can’t cope with fog and it is an accident waiting to happen. Google air crashes at Southend and see how many aircraft have overshot the runway and crashed into the railway line. Yes the runway is now longer but the aircraft are much faster than the old piston aircraft that used to fly from Southend.

There has not been as many you you want people to think there has, on to the railway lines I can find three or four thats it.

As you say the runway is longer, you say jets are faster than piston aircraft yes your right but why not mention that the breaking systems used are much better than they were, passenger jets and turboprop aircraft have reverse thrust aiding the process of slowing the aircraft down.

jayman wrote:

Max Impact wrote:

JeffMo wrote:
" So come on, lets have this evidence of compromised safety, I am sure the much smarter people at the CAA whose job it is to check these things will be gratified that you spotted it."

The church is so close to the side of the runway that special permission had to be given to allow operations. This special permission is under a yearly review.
A couple of weeks ago the airport shut down for two days due fog as no pilot wanted to take a chance with that church so close. Add to that a non-standard narrow runway and a short runway that is in kissing distance of the railway line plus a primitiveCAT1 ILS that can’t cope with fog and it is an accident waiting to happen. Google air crashes at Southend and see how many aircraft have overshot the runway and crashed into the railway line. Yes the runway is now longer but the aircraft are much faster than the old piston aircraft that used to fly from Southend.

There has not been as many you you want people to think there has, on to the railway lines I can find three or four thats it.

As you say the runway is longer, you say jets are faster than piston aircraft yes your right but why not mention that the breaking systems used are much better than they were, passenger jets and turboprop aircraft have reverse thrust aiding the process of slowing the aircraft down.

yeah... the reverse thrust bit max talks about is the noise that wakes you up at night between take-offs..

god. some people.. tsk!

JeffMo wrote:
" So come on, lets have this evidence of compromised safety, I am sure the much smarter people at the CAA whose job it is to check these things will be gratified that you spotted it."

The church is so close to the side of the runway that special permission had to be given to allow operations. This special permission is under a yearly review.
A couple of weeks ago the airport shut down for two days due fog as no pilot wanted to take a chance with that church so close. Add to that a non-standard narrow runway and a short runway that is in kissing distance of the railway line plus a primitiveCAT1 ILS that can’t cope with fog and it is an accident waiting to happen. Google air crashes at Southend and see how many aircraft have overshot the runway and crashed into the railway line. Yes the runway is now longer but the aircraft are much faster than the old piston aircraft that used to fly from Southend.

BASILBRUSH wrote:

JeffMo wrote:
" So come on, lets have this evidence of compromised safety, I am sure the much smarter people at the CAA whose job it is to check these things will be gratified that you spotted it."

The church is so close to the side of the runway that special permission had to be given to allow operations. This special permission is under a yearly review.
A couple of weeks ago the airport shut down for two days due fog as no pilot wanted to take a chance with that church so close. Add to that a non-standard narrow runway and a short runway that is in kissing distance of the railway line plus a primitiveCAT1 ILS that can’t cope with fog and it is an accident waiting to happen. Google air crashes at Southend and see how many aircraft have overshot the runway and crashed into the railway line. Yes the runway is now longer but the aircraft are much faster than the old piston aircraft that used to fly from Southend.

I must've imagined the 62 flights cancelled and flights diverted at Heathrow during the same period reported in the national press.
Plus the flights cancelled or diverted at Luton, London City, Southampton, Gatwick etc etc...

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/news/uk-england-lon

don-20039145

As for the Terminal extension.. Good news!

JeffMo wrote:
"As you say the runway is longer, you say jets are faster than piston aircraft yes your right but why not mention that the breaking systems used are much better than they were, passenger jets and turboprop aircraft have reverse thrust aiding the process of slowing the aircraft down"

Hope this link works http://www.dailyecho

.co.uk/news/1130667.

plane_overshoots_run

way/

Southampton is another airport with a runway around the same length as Southend. In 2007 a passenger jet much smaller than what easyjet use overshot its runway. Lucky for them they had a nice grass safety strip at the end of the runway. At Southend the aircraft would have broken its back on the embankment and no doubt caught fire. If a train was passing hundreds of people would have been killed. Southend should be closed now to passengers for their own safety as this is probably the most dangerous airport in the UK

JeffMo wrote:
"As you say the runway is longer, you say jets are faster than piston aircraft yes your right but why not mention that the breaking systems used are much better than they were, passenger jets and turboprop aircraft have reverse thrust aiding the process of slowing the aircraft down"

Hope this link works http://www.dailyecho

.co.uk/news/1130667.

plane_overshoots_run

way/

Southampton is another airport with a runway around the same length as Southend. In 2007 a passenger jet much smaller than what easyjet use overshot its runway. Lucky for them they had a nice grass safety strip at the end of the runway. At Southend the aircraft would have broken its back on the embankment and no doubt caught fire. If a train was passing hundreds of people would have been killed. Southend should be closed now to passengers for their own safety as this is probably the most dangerous airport in the UK

j-w wrote:
I wonder what Stobarts and easyJets legal teams think about being accused of running an unsafe operation on a public website?

pipeman wrote:

j-w wrote:
I wonder what Stobarts and easyJets legal teams think about being accused of running an unsafe operation on a public website?

That's an interesting thought....

Max Impact wrote:
The current lights were checked and passed by the CAA, prehaps they want to upgrade them to bump the CAT level up to 2,

If you read the whole thing it states:

"that it is to buy 1134 sqm of paddock land to the north side of Tinkers Lane, Rochford, Essex"

prehaps the airport do not own the land but rent it off the council, buying it would make it better for the airport to keep control of the land and the maintanace of the lights.


Going on:
"As may be necessary new approach lights and related structures and apparatus in, on, under and across the above-referenced land and to operate such lights and/or structures and/or apparatus including the right to survey, inspect, repair, maintain, alter, replace and/or remove such lights and/or structures and/or apparatus and any other associated equipment"

Where does it say they need to build new lights, it states may be not must.

As I said above before the passenger flights started the CAA would have gone over the airport with a fine toothed comb and flagged up any issues and not granted permission for the new operating licence to commence the flights until all the issues were sorted.

muffindamule wrote:
LOL, you couldn't make it up, could you ?

al coniston wrote:
more news out on Wednesday regarding a new service for the airport ;)

Max Impact wrote:

muffindamule wrote:
LOL, you couldn't make it up, could you ?

Wish I had, I could write a book about some of the stupid things the bosses have done.

A van was needed, myself and six workmates drew up what we needed and priced it all up, we submitted the proposal for a 7.5 ton truck, what did the bosses buy... A Renault Kangoo, then moaned that we had to hire vans to transport equipment.

They then brought TV's built for the US market for UK offices.

lawbreaker wrote:
An expansion for the airport. So more people, more traffic, more problems. Cant be a bad thing, because I hate Southend!

southendshrimper wrote:
Great news, typical of the moaners. Don't tell anyone but a second runway will be built in secret. It will cross the current runway rochford golf course will be taken out. plans to be submitted next week, then the week after the runway will be built. shh don't tell anyone its a sercret!!!!!!!

2nd runway to cater for a minimum 5 fold expansion in flights lready applied for

fatgeezer wrote:

southendshrimper wrote:
Great news, typical of the moaners. Don't tell anyone but a second runway will be built in secret. It will cross the current runway rochford golf course will be taken out. plans to be submitted next week, then the week after the runway will be built. shh don't tell anyone its a sercret!!!!!!!

Too late Pal

2nd runway to cater for a minimum 5 fold expansion in flights lready applied for

BTW of the 100's of jobs created at the Airport, how many have gone to locals

Over 90% of the construction staff were from other counties and shipped in for the build, with their wages going home, not into the Southend economy. Oh and what about the new firms at the Airport, who have brought staff in from previous premises to work at the airport.

Most of those flying from Southend, commute to the Airport and spend no money in our local economy. There has been very little benefit to the town, when there could have been so much.

And dont forget the local companies forced out of business by the expansion, I personally know of several affected businesses and one that is on the brink.

Oh and the noise, like that caused by low flying aircraft over Maldon and along the Crouch estuary.

These are facts not moans. I actually looked forward to the original expansion, until I looked deeper into what has been achieved. All a matter of public record. This is not a disaster for the town, but it is certainly NOT the benefit it has been made out to be either

fatgeezer wrote:

southendshrimper wrote:
Great news, typical of the moaners. Don't tell anyone but a second runway will be built in secret. It will cross the current runway rochford golf course will be taken out. plans to be submitted next week, then the week after the runway will be built. shh don't tell anyone its a sercret!!!!!!!

Too late Pal

2nd runway to cater for a minimum 5 fold expansion in flights lready applied for

BTW of the 100's of jobs created at the Airport, how many have gone to locals

Over 90% of the construction staff were from other counties and shipped in for the build, with their wages going home, not into the Southend economy. Oh and what about the new firms at the Airport, who have brought staff in from previous premises to work at the airport.

Most of those flying from Southend, commute to the Airport and spend no money in our local economy. There has been very little benefit to the town, when there could have been so much.

And dont forget the local companies forced out of business by the expansion, I personally know of several affected businesses and one that is on the brink.

Oh and the noise, like that caused by low flying aircraft over Maldon and along the Crouch estuary.

These are facts not moans. I actually looked forward to the original expansion, until I looked deeper into what has been achieved. All a matter of public record. This is not a disaster for the town, but it is certainly NOT the benefit it has been made out to be either

fatgeezer wrote:

southendshrimper wrote:
Great news, typical of the moaners. Don't tell anyone but a second runway will be built in secret. It will cross the current runway rochford golf course will be taken out. plans to be submitted next week, then the week after the runway will be built. shh don't tell anyone its a sercret!!!!!!!

Too late Pal

2nd runway to cater for a minimum 5 fold expansion in flights lready applied for

BTW of the 100's of jobs created at the Airport, how many have gone to locals

Over 90% of the construction staff were from other counties and shipped in for the build, with their wages going home, not into the Southend economy. Oh and what about the new firms at the Airport, who have brought staff in from previous premises to work at the airport.

Most of those flying from Southend, commute to the Airport and spend no money in our local economy. There has been very little benefit to the town, when there could have been so much.

And dont forget the local companies forced out of business by the expansion, I personally know of several affected businesses and one that is on the brink.

Oh and the noise, like that caused by low flying aircraft over Maldon and along the Crouch estuary.

These are facts not moans. I actually looked forward to the original expansion, until I looked deeper into what has been achieved. All a matter of public record. This is not a disaster for the town, but it is certainly NOT the benefit it has been made out to be either

Max Impact wrote:

fatgeezer wrote:

southendshrimper wrote:
Great news, typical of the moaners. Don't tell anyone but a second runway will be built in secret. It will cross the current runway rochford golf course will be taken out. plans to be submitted next week, then the week after the runway will be built. shh don't tell anyone its a sercret!!!!!!!

Too late Pal

2nd runway to cater for a minimum 5 fold expansion in flights lready applied for

BTW of the 100's of jobs created at the Airport, how many have gone to locals

Over 90% of the construction staff were from other counties and shipped in for the build, with their wages going home, not into the Southend economy. Oh and what about the new firms at the Airport, who have brought staff in from previous premises to work at the airport.

Most of those flying from Southend, commute to the Airport and spend no money in our local economy. There has been very little benefit to the town, when there could have been so much.

And dont forget the local companies forced out of business by the expansion, I personally know of several affected businesses and one that is on the brink.

Oh and the noise, like that caused by low flying aircraft over Maldon and along the Crouch estuary.

These are facts not moans. I actually looked forward to the original expansion, until I looked deeper into what has been achieved. All a matter of public record. This is not a disaster for the town, but it is certainly NOT the benefit it has been made out to be either

Jollyboy/jayman/1111

11/JeffMo/Torys4Sout

hend

Has yet another new login.

IP's never lie.

jayman wrote:

Max Impact wrote:

fatgeezer wrote:

southendshrimper wrote:
Great news, typical of the moaners. Don't tell anyone but a second runway will be built in secret. It will cross the current runway rochford golf course will be taken out. plans to be submitted next week, then the week after the runway will be built. shh don't tell anyone its a sercret!!!!!!!

Too late Pal

2nd runway to cater for a minimum 5 fold expansion in flights lready applied for

BTW of the 100's of jobs created at the Airport, how many have gone to locals

Over 90% of the construction staff were from other counties and shipped in for the build, with their wages going home, not into the Southend economy. Oh and what about the new firms at the Airport, who have brought staff in from previous premises to work at the airport.

Most of those flying from Southend, commute to the Airport and spend no money in our local economy. There has been very little benefit to the town, when there could have been so much.

And dont forget the local companies forced out of business by the expansion, I personally know of several affected businesses and one that is on the brink.

Oh and the noise, like that caused by low flying aircraft over Maldon and along the Crouch estuary.

These are facts not moans. I actually looked forward to the original expansion, until I looked deeper into what has been achieved. All a matter of public record. This is not a disaster for the town, but it is certainly NOT the benefit it has been made out to be either

Jollyboy/jayman/1111


11/JeffMo/Torys4Sout


hend

Has yet another new login.

IP's never lie.

max.

i will give you twenty quid if you can tell me my IP address!

ohhhh!! that's right.... you don't know, because you know about as much on computer internet protocol as you know about welding or getting important documents from Ireland..

fatgeezer wrote:

southendshrimper wrote:
Great news, typical of the moaners. Don't tell anyone but a second runway will be built in secret. It will cross the current runway rochford golf course will be taken out. plans to be submitted next week, then the week after the runway will be built. shh don't tell anyone its a sercret!!!!!!!

Too late Pal

2nd runway to cater for a minimum 5 fold expansion in flights lready applied for

BTW of the 100's of jobs created at the Airport, how many have gone to locals

Over 90% of the construction staff were from other counties and shipped in for the build, with their wages going home, not into the Southend economy. Oh and what about the new firms at the Airport, who have brought staff in from previous premises to work at the airport.

Most of those flying from Southend, commute to the Airport and spend no money in our local economy. There has been very little benefit to the town, when there could have been so much.

And dont forget the local companies forced out of business by the expansion, I personally know of several affected businesses and one that is on the brink.

Oh and the noise, like that caused by low flying aircraft over Maldon and along the Crouch estuary.

These are facts not moans. I actually looked forward to the original expansion, until I looked deeper into what has been achieved. All a matter of public record. This is not a disaster for the town, but it is certainly NOT the benefit it has been made out to be either

Max Impact wrote:

jayman wrote:

Max Impact wrote:

fatgeezer wrote:

southendshrimper wrote:
Great news, typical of the moaners. Don't tell anyone but a second runway will be built in secret. It will cross the current runway rochford golf course will be taken out. plans to be submitted next week, then the week after the runway will be built. shh don't tell anyone its a sercret!!!!!!!

Too late Pal

2nd runway to cater for a minimum 5 fold expansion in flights lready applied for

BTW of the 100's of jobs created at the Airport, how many have gone to locals

Over 90% of the construction staff were from other counties and shipped in for the build, with their wages going home, not into the Southend economy. Oh and what about the new firms at the Airport, who have brought staff in from previous premises to work at the airport.

Most of those flying from Southend, commute to the Airport and spend no money in our local economy. There has been very little benefit to the town, when there could have been so much.

And dont forget the local companies forced out of business by the expansion, I personally know of several affected businesses and one that is on the brink.

Oh and the noise, like that caused by low flying aircraft over Maldon and along the Crouch estuary.

These are facts not moans. I actually looked forward to the original expansion, until I looked deeper into what has been achieved. All a matter of public record. This is not a disaster for the town, but it is certainly NOT the benefit it has been made out to be either

Jollyboy/jayman/1111



11/JeffMo/Torys4Sout



hend

Has yet another new login.

IP's never lie.

max.

i will give you twenty quid if you can tell me my IP address!

ohhhh!! that's right.... you don't know, because you know about as much on computer internet protocol as you know about welding or getting important documents from Ireland..

I'm a welder and will be until the end of the month, just welded to a desk, handed my notice in and will be moving to a new venture in December.

Manchester Airport hate the place, cold and bleak.

You can say what you want about me not being a welder, I could retaliate but your not worth the keystoke time.

disenfranchisedpast wrote:

fatgeezer wrote:

southendshrimper wrote: Great news, typical of the moaners. Don't tell anyone but a second runway will be built in secret. It will cross the current runway rochford golf course will be taken out. plans to be submitted next week, then the week after the runway will be built. shh don't tell anyone its a sercret!!!!!!!

Too late Pal 2nd runway to cater for a minimum 5 fold expansion in flights lready applied for BTW of the 100's of jobs created at the Airport, how many have gone to locals Over 90% of the construction staff were from other counties and shipped in for the build, with their wages going home, not into the Southend economy. Oh and what about the new firms at the Airport, who have brought staff in from previous premises to work at the airport. Most of those flying from Southend, commute to the Airport and spend no money in our local economy. There has been very little benefit to the town, when there could have been so much. And dont forget the local companies forced out of business by the expansion, I personally know of several affected businesses and one that is on the brink. Oh and the noise, like that caused by low flying aircraft over Maldon and along the Crouch estuary. These are facts not moans. I actually looked forward to the original expansion, until I looked deeper into what has been achieved. All a matter of public record. This is not a disaster for the town, but it is certainly NOT the benefit it has been made out to be either

I think you're playing fast and loose with the word "facts" there geezer.

fatgeezer wrote:

disenfranchisedpast wrote:

fatgeezer wrote:

southendshrimper wrote: Great news, typical of the moaners. Don't tell anyone but a second runway will be built in secret. It will cross the current runway rochford golf course will be taken out. plans to be submitted next week, then the week after the runway will be built. shh don't tell anyone its a sercret!!!!!!!

Too late Pal 2nd runway to cater for a minimum 5 fold expansion in flights lready applied for BTW of the 100's of jobs created at the Airport, how many have gone to locals Over 90% of the construction staff were from other counties and shipped in for the build, with their wages going home, not into the Southend economy. Oh and what about the new firms at the Airport, who have brought staff in from previous premises to work at the airport. Most of those flying from Southend, commute to the Airport and spend no money in our local economy. There has been very little benefit to the town, when there could have been so much. And dont forget the local companies forced out of business by the expansion, I personally know of several affected businesses and one that is on the brink. Oh and the noise, like that caused by low flying aircraft over Maldon and along the Crouch estuary. These are facts not moans. I actually looked forward to the original expansion, until I looked deeper into what has been achieved. All a matter of public record. This is not a disaster for the town, but it is certainly NOT the benefit it has been made out to be either

I think you're playing fast and loose with the word "facts" there geezer.

disenfranchisedpast

No not fast and loose fella.

It is freely acknowledged that the majority of "new"jobs have "moved" to the airport from around the county. So that is not NEW jobs. The jobs and wiorkers that have moved to the airport, by and large do not support the local (Southend Borough) economy. They may support the economy of their home locality, but not Southend and area

The two businesses that have closed were recording studio's, one of long standing (20 years+). The cost of additional work to the studios to counter the additional noise and vibration of aircraft flying overhead was restrictive in both cases. The cost of moving to a new premises including the building work and fitting required was also restrictive, hence the closure of two businesses. I will not identify the third business, for the time being. It is not my business, and I do not wish to prejudice any ongoing discussions

As for the building workers, simply go and talk to a few. Most of them are billetted in a few B+B's near the seafront. They arrive in town on a Monday afternoon and go home Friday Lunchtime. The weekend shifts Arrive Thursday and go home Monday afternoon. They take their wages home.

The tourist industry in Maldon has been hit according to local business, as it is no longer a place for a quiet afternoon out, and I have witnessed the noise myself from Wallasey Island.


As for whoever MAX is. You make yourself look stupid with your uninformed libelous comments.

I am none of the people your sad little mind imagines sir/madam. I happen to have commented on several articles in the past, but I have a life which does not centre around making childish remarks and insulting people whilst hiding behind the mask of a newspaper forum. I can assure you that you do not know me. As for IP's never lying. I believe you need to take a course on how the internet work.

Now go play with the traffic you silly child

Nebs wrote:

Max Impact wrote:

jayman wrote:

Max Impact wrote:

fatgeezer wrote:

southendshrimper wrote:
Great news, typical of the moaners. Don't tell anyone but a second runway will be built in secret. It will cross the current runway rochford golf course will be taken out. plans to be submitted next week, then the week after the runway will be built. shh don't tell anyone its a sercret!!!!!!!

Too late Pal

2nd runway to cater for a minimum 5 fold expansion in flights lready applied for

BTW of the 100's of jobs created at the Airport, how many have gone to locals

Over 90% of the construction staff were from other counties and shipped in for the build, with their wages going home, not into the Southend economy. Oh and what about the new firms at the Airport, who have brought staff in from previous premises to work at the airport.

Most of those flying from Southend, commute to the Airport and spend no money in our local economy. There has been very little benefit to the town, when there could have been so much.

And dont forget the local companies forced out of business by the expansion, I personally know of several affected businesses and one that is on the brink.

Oh and the noise, like that caused by low flying aircraft over Maldon and along the Crouch estuary.

These are facts not moans. I actually looked forward to the original expansion, until I looked deeper into what has been achieved. All a matter of public record. This is not a disaster for the town, but it is certainly NOT the benefit it has been made out to be either

Jollyboy/jayman/1111




11/JeffMo/Torys4Sout




hend

Has yet another new login.

IP's never lie.

max.

i will give you twenty quid if you can tell me my IP address!

ohhhh!! that's right.... you don't know, because you know about as much on computer internet protocol as you know about welding or getting important documents from Ireland..

I'm a welder and will be until the end of the month, just welded to a desk, handed my notice in and will be moving to a new venture in December.

Manchester Airport hate the place, cold and bleak.

You can say what you want about me not being a welder, I could retaliate but your not worth the keystoke time.

Before you go, are you ever going to tell us which internet bookie laid your election bet?

fatgeezer wrote:

southendshrimper wrote:
Great news, typical of the moaners. Don't tell anyone but a second runway will be built in secret. It will cross the current runway rochford golf course will be taken out. plans to be submitted next week, then the week after the runway will be built. shh don't tell anyone its a sercret!!!!!!!

Too late Pal

2nd runway to cater for a minimum 5 fold expansion in flights lready applied for

BTW of the 100's of jobs created at the Airport, how many have gone to locals

Over 90% of the construction staff were from other counties and shipped in for the build, with their wages going home, not into the Southend economy. Oh and what about the new firms at the Airport, who have brought staff in from previous premises to work at the airport.

Most of those flying from Southend, commute to the Airport and spend no money in our local economy. There has been very little benefit to the town, when there could have been so much.

And dont forget the local companies forced out of business by the expansion, I personally know of several affected businesses and one that is on the brink.

Oh and the noise, like that caused by low flying aircraft over Maldon and along the Crouch estuary.

These are facts not moans. I actually looked forward to the original expansion, until I looked deeper into what has been achieved. All a matter of public record. This is not a disaster for the town, but it is certainly NOT the benefit it has been made out to be either

fatgeezer wrote:

disenfranchisedpast wrote:

fatgeezer wrote:

southendshrimper wrote: Great news, typical of the moaners. Don't tell anyone but a second runway will be built in secret. It will cross the current runway rochford golf course will be taken out. plans to be submitted next week, then the week after the runway will be built. shh don't tell anyone its a sercret!!!!!!!

Too late Pal 2nd runway to cater for a minimum 5 fold expansion in flights lready applied for BTW of the 100's of jobs created at the Airport, how many have gone to locals Over 90% of the construction staff were from other counties and shipped in for the build, with their wages going home, not into the Southend economy. Oh and what about the new firms at the Airport, who have brought staff in from previous premises to work at the airport. Most of those flying from Southend, commute to the Airport and spend no money in our local economy. There has been very little benefit to the town, when there could have been so much. And dont forget the local companies forced out of business by the expansion, I personally know of several affected businesses and one that is on the brink. Oh and the noise, like that caused by low flying aircraft over Maldon and along the Crouch estuary. These are facts not moans. I actually looked forward to the original expansion, until I looked deeper into what has been achieved. All a matter of public record. This is not a disaster for the town, but it is certainly NOT the benefit it has been made out to be either

I think you're playing fast and loose with the word "facts" there geezer.

disenfranchisedpast

No not fast and loose fella.

It is freely acknowledged that the majority of "new"jobs have "moved" to the airport from around the county. So that is not NEW jobs. The jobs and wiorkers that have moved to the airport, by and large do not support the local (Southend Borough) economy. They may support the economy of their home locality, but not Southend and area

The two businesses that have closed were recording studio's, one of long standing (20 years+). The cost of additional work to the studios to counter the additional noise and vibration of aircraft flying overhead was restrictive in both cases. The cost of moving to a new premises including the building work and fitting required was also restrictive, hence the closure of two businesses. I will not identify the third business, for the time being. It is not my business, and I do not wish to prejudice any ongoing discussions

As for the building workers, simply go and talk to a few. Most of them are billetted in a few B+B's near the seafront. They arrive in town on a Monday afternoon and go home Friday Lunchtime. The weekend shifts Arrive Thursday and go home Monday afternoon. They take their wages home.

The tourist industry in Maldon has been hit according to local business, as it is no longer a place for a quiet afternoon out, and I have witnessed the noise myself from Wallasey Island.


As for whoever MAX is. You make yourself look stupid with your uninformed libelous comments.

I am none of the people your sad little mind imagines sir/madam. I happen to have commented on several articles in the past, but I have a life which does not centre around making childish remarks and insulting people whilst hiding behind the mask of a newspaper forum. I can assure you that you do not know me. As for IP's never lying. I believe you need to take a course on how the internet work.

Now go play with the traffic you silly child

pipeman wrote:
Dennis Walker (second from the left) states 60,000 people's lives are ruined by the airport, how come there are not more folks protesting in this shot...? maybe I need to go to SpecSavers but I'm pretty sure I can only see FOUR.

Maybe the truth of the matter is that most folk in this town welcome the airport and many have no doubt used it since the improvements began.

http://www.flickr.co

m/photos/rosekb/4181

511016/lightbox/

pipeman wrote:
Dennis Walker (second from the left) states 60,000 people's lives are ruined by the airport, how come there are not more folks protesting in this shot...? maybe I need to go to SpecSavers but I'm pretty sure I can only see FOUR.

Maybe the truth of the matter is that most folk in this town welcome the airport and many have no doubt used it since the improvements began.

http://www.flickr.co

m/photos/rosekb/4181

511016/lightbox/

disenfranchisedpast wrote:

fatgeezer wrote:

disenfranchisedpast wrote:

fatgeezer wrote:

southendshrimper wrote: Great news, typical of the moaners. Don't tell anyone but a second runway will be built in secret. It will cross the current runway rochford golf course will be taken out. plans to be submitted next week, then the week after the runway will be built. shh don't tell anyone its a sercret!!!!!!!

Too late Pal 2nd runway to cater for a minimum 5 fold expansion in flights lready applied for BTW of the 100's of jobs created at the Airport, how many have gone to locals Over 90% of the construction staff were from other counties and shipped in for the build, with their wages going home, not into the Southend economy. Oh and what about the new firms at the Airport, who have brought staff in from previous premises to work at the airport. Most of those flying from Southend, commute to the Airport and spend no money in our local economy. There has been very little benefit to the town, when there could have been so much. And dont forget the local companies forced out of business by the expansion, I personally know of several affected businesses and one that is on the brink. Oh and the noise, like that caused by low flying aircraft over Maldon and along the Crouch estuary. These are facts not moans. I actually looked forward to the original expansion, until I looked deeper into what has been achieved. All a matter of public record. This is not a disaster for the town, but it is certainly NOT the benefit it has been made out to be either

I think you're playing fast and loose with the word "facts" there geezer.

disenfranchisedpast No not fast and loose fella. It is freely acknowledged that the majority of "new"jobs have "moved" to the airport from around the county. So that is not NEW jobs. The jobs and wiorkers that have moved to the airport, by and large do not support the local (Southend Borough) economy. They may support the economy of their home locality, but not Southend and area The two businesses that have closed were recording studio's, one of long standing (20 years+). The cost of additional work to the studios to counter the additional noise and vibration of aircraft flying overhead was restrictive in both cases. The cost of moving to a new premises including the building work and fitting required was also restrictive, hence the closure of two businesses. I will not identify the third business, for the time being. It is not my business, and I do not wish to prejudice any ongoing discussions As for the building workers, simply go and talk to a few. Most of them are billetted in a few B+B's near the seafront. They arrive in town on a Monday afternoon and go home Friday Lunchtime. The weekend shifts Arrive Thursday and go home Monday afternoon. They take their wages home. The tourist industry in Maldon has been hit according to local business, as it is no longer a place for a quiet afternoon out, and I have witnessed the noise myself from Wallasey Island. As for whoever MAX is. You make yourself look stupid with your uninformed libelous comments. I am none of the people your sad little mind imagines sir/madam. I happen to have commented on several articles in the past, but I have a life which does not centre around making childish remarks and insulting people whilst hiding behind the mask of a newspaper forum. I can assure you that you do not know me. As for IP's never lying. I believe you need to take a course on how the internet work. Now go play with the traffic you silly child

Ok I'll be blunt, you're talking cr@p. There is no application for a second runway. It would be public if there was. The theoretical recording studios would have needed soundproofing for the B757s, md80's, dc8's and airbuses that have been flying in and put of southend for maintenance for many many years prior to the expansion. So lets see some proof of these workers fleeing the area with their pay, or the shattered tourist industry in malden. Something a bit more concrete than your fantasies

fatgeezer wrote:

disenfranchisedpast wrote:

fatgeezer wrote:

disenfranchisedpast wrote:

fatgeezer wrote:

southendshrimper wrote: Great news, typical of the moaners. Don't tell anyone but a second runway will be built in secret. It will cross the current runway rochford golf course will be taken out. plans to be submitted next week, then the week after the runway will be built. shh don't tell anyone its a sercret!!!!!!!

Too late Pal 2nd runway to cater for a minimum 5 fold expansion in flights lready applied for BTW of the 100's of jobs created at the Airport, how many have gone to locals Over 90% of the construction staff were from other counties and shipped in for the build, with their wages going home, not into the Southend economy. Oh and what about the new firms at the Airport, who have brought staff in from previous premises to work at the airport. Most of those flying from Southend, commute to the Airport and spend no money in our local economy. There has been very little benefit to the town, when there could have been so much. And dont forget the local companies forced out of business by the expansion, I personally know of several affected businesses and one that is on the brink. Oh and the noise, like that caused by low flying aircraft over Maldon and along the Crouch estuary. These are facts not moans. I actually looked forward to the original expansion, until I looked deeper into what has been achieved. All a matter of public record. This is not a disaster for the town, but it is certainly NOT the benefit it has been made out to be either

I think you're playing fast and loose with the word "facts" there geezer.

disenfranchisedpast No not fast and loose fella. It is freely acknowledged that the majority of "new"jobs have "moved" to the airport from around the county. So that is not NEW jobs. The jobs and wiorkers that have moved to the airport, by and large do not support the local (Southend Borough) economy. They may support the economy of their home locality, but not Southend and area The two businesses that have closed were recording studio's, one of long standing (20 years+). The cost of additional work to the studios to counter the additional noise and vibration of aircraft flying overhead was restrictive in both cases. The cost of moving to a new premises including the building work and fitting required was also restrictive, hence the closure of two businesses. I will not identify the third business, for the time being. It is not my business, and I do not wish to prejudice any ongoing discussions As for the building workers, simply go and talk to a few. Most of them are billetted in a few B+B's near the seafront. They arrive in town on a Monday afternoon and go home Friday Lunchtime. The weekend shifts Arrive Thursday and go home Monday afternoon. They take their wages home. The tourist industry in Maldon has been hit according to local business, as it is no longer a place for a quiet afternoon out, and I have witnessed the noise myself from Wallasey Island. As for whoever MAX is. You make yourself look stupid with your uninformed libelous comments. I am none of the people your sad little mind imagines sir/madam. I happen to have commented on several articles in the past, but I have a life which does not centre around making childish remarks and insulting people whilst hiding behind the mask of a newspaper forum. I can assure you that you do not know me. As for IP's never lying. I believe you need to take a course on how the internet work. Now go play with the traffic you silly child

Ok I'll be blunt, you're talking cr@p. There is no application for a second runway. It would be public if there was. The theoretical recording studios would have needed soundproofing for the B757s, md80's, dc8's and airbuses that have been flying in and put of southend for maintenance for many many years prior to the expansion. So lets see some proof of these workers fleeing the area with their pay, or the shattered tourist industry in malden. Something a bit more concrete than your fantasies

To be honest Max, your attitude stinks, and debate with you is as pointless as debate with a child who stamps his feet.

I have lodged my point of view. I have certain knowledge of the facts, being the owner of one of the demised businesses.

You are welcome to accept what I say or deny it, that is your right. I, however will not degrade myself and come down to your level of argument, if that is what you call it, I certainly do not.

I therefore withdraw, safe in the knowledge that time will show where the truth lies. The game sir, for that is what you are playing here, is yours, and you are welcome to it

fatgeezer wrote:

disenfranchisedpast wrote:

fatgeezer wrote:

disenfranchisedpast wrote:

fatgeezer wrote:

southendshrimper wrote: Great news, typical of the moaners. Don't tell anyone but a second runway will be built in secret. It will cross the current runway rochford golf course will be taken out. plans to be submitted next week, then the week after the runway will be built. shh don't tell anyone its a sercret!!!!!!!

Too late Pal 2nd runway to cater for a minimum 5 fold expansion in flights lready applied for BTW of the 100's of jobs created at the Airport, how many have gone to locals Over 90% of the construction staff were from other counties and shipped in for the build, with their wages going home, not into the Southend economy. Oh and what about the new firms at the Airport, who have brought staff in from previous premises to work at the airport. Most of those flying from Southend, commute to the Airport and spend no money in our local economy. There has been very little benefit to the town, when there could have been so much. And dont forget the local companies forced out of business by the expansion, I personally know of several affected businesses and one that is on the brink. Oh and the noise, like that caused by low flying aircraft over Maldon and along the Crouch estuary. These are facts not moans. I actually looked forward to the original expansion, until I looked deeper into what has been achieved. All a matter of public record. This is not a disaster for the town, but it is certainly NOT the benefit it has been made out to be either

I think you're playing fast and loose with the word "facts" there geezer.

disenfranchisedpast No not fast and loose fella. It is freely acknowledged that the majority of "new"jobs have "moved" to the airport from around the county. So that is not NEW jobs. The jobs and wiorkers that have moved to the airport, by and large do not support the local (Southend Borough) economy. They may support the economy of their home locality, but not Southend and area The two businesses that have closed were recording studio's, one of long standing (20 years+). The cost of additional work to the studios to counter the additional noise and vibration of aircraft flying overhead was restrictive in both cases. The cost of moving to a new premises including the building work and fitting required was also restrictive, hence the closure of two businesses. I will not identify the third business, for the time being. It is not my business, and I do not wish to prejudice any ongoing discussions As for the building workers, simply go and talk to a few. Most of them are billetted in a few B+B's near the seafront. They arrive in town on a Monday afternoon and go home Friday Lunchtime. The weekend shifts Arrive Thursday and go home Monday afternoon. They take their wages home. The tourist industry in Maldon has been hit according to local business, as it is no longer a place for a quiet afternoon out, and I have witnessed the noise myself from Wallasey Island. As for whoever MAX is. You make yourself look stupid with your uninformed libelous comments. I am none of the people your sad little mind imagines sir/madam. I happen to have commented on several articles in the past, but I have a life which does not centre around making childish remarks and insulting people whilst hiding behind the mask of a newspaper forum. I can assure you that you do not know me. As for IP's never lying. I believe you need to take a course on how the internet work. Now go play with the traffic you silly child

Ok I'll be blunt, you're talking cr@p. There is no application for a second runway. It would be public if there was. The theoretical recording studios would have needed soundproofing for the B757s, md80's, dc8's and airbuses that have been flying in and put of southend for maintenance for many many years prior to the expansion. So lets see some proof of these workers fleeing the area with their pay, or the shattered tourist industry in malden. Something a bit more concrete than your fantasies

To be honest Max, your attitude stinks, and debate with you is as pointless as debate with a child who stamps his feet.

I have lodged my point of view. I have certain knowledge of the facts, being the owner of one of the demised businesses.

You are welcome to accept what I say or deny it, that is your right. I, however will not degrade myself and come down to your level of argument, if that is what you call it, I certainly do not.

I therefore withdraw, safe in the knowledge that time will show where the truth lies. The game sir, for that is what you are playing here, is yours, and you are welcome to it

mrttev63 wrote:
No press release today ?

disenfranchisedpast wrote:

fatgeezer wrote:

disenfranchisedpast wrote:

fatgeezer wrote:

disenfranchisedpast wrote:

fatgeezer wrote:

southendshrimper wrote: Great news, typical of the moaners. Don't tell anyone but a second runway will be built in secret. It will cross the current runway rochford golf course will be taken out. plans to be submitted next week, then the week after the runway will be built. shh don't tell anyone its a sercret!!!!!!!

Too late Pal 2nd runway to cater for a minimum 5 fold expansion in flights lready applied for BTW of the 100's of jobs created at the Airport, how many have gone to locals Over 90% of the construction staff were from other counties and shipped in for the build, with their wages going home, not into the Southend economy. Oh and what about the new firms at the Airport, who have brought staff in from previous premises to work at the airport. Most of those flying from Southend, commute to the Airport and spend no money in our local economy. There has been very little benefit to the town, when there could have been so much. And dont forget the local companies forced out of business by the expansion, I personally know of several affected businesses and one that is on the brink. Oh and the noise, like that caused by low flying aircraft over Maldon and along the Crouch estuary. These are facts not moans. I actually looked forward to the original expansion, until I looked deeper into what has been achieved. All a matter of public record. This is not a disaster for the town, but it is certainly NOT the benefit it has been made out to be either

I think you're playing fast and loose with the word "facts" there geezer.

disenfranchisedpast No not fast and loose fella. It is freely acknowledged that the majority of "new"jobs have "moved" to the airport from around the county. So that is not NEW jobs. The jobs and wiorkers that have moved to the airport, by and large do not support the local (Southend Borough) economy. They may support the economy of their home locality, but not Southend and area The two businesses that have closed were recording studio's, one of long standing (20 years+). The cost of additional work to the studios to counter the additional noise and vibration of aircraft flying overhead was restrictive in both cases. The cost of moving to a new premises including the building work and fitting required was also restrictive, hence the closure of two businesses. I will not identify the third business, for the time being. It is not my business, and I do not wish to prejudice any ongoing discussions As for the building workers, simply go and talk to a few. Most of them are billetted in a few B+B's near the seafront. They arrive in town on a Monday afternoon and go home Friday Lunchtime. The weekend shifts Arrive Thursday and go home Monday afternoon. They take their wages home. The tourist industry in Maldon has been hit according to local business, as it is no longer a place for a quiet afternoon out, and I have witnessed the noise myself from Wallasey Island. As for whoever MAX is. You make yourself look stupid with your uninformed libelous comments. I am none of the people your sad little mind imagines sir/madam. I happen to have commented on several articles in the past, but I have a life which does not centre around making childish remarks and insulting people whilst hiding behind the mask of a newspaper forum. I can assure you that you do not know me. As for IP's never lying. I believe you need to take a course on how the internet work. Now go play with the traffic you silly child

Ok I'll be blunt, you're talking cr@p. There is no application for a second runway. It would be public if there was. The theoretical recording studios would have needed soundproofing for the B757s, md80's, dc8's and airbuses that have been flying in and put of southend for maintenance for many many years prior to the expansion. So lets see some proof of these workers fleeing the area with their pay, or the shattered tourist industry in malden. Something a bit more concrete than your fantasies

To be honest Max, your attitude stinks, and debate with you is as pointless as debate with a child who stamps his feet.

I have lodged my point of view. I have certain knowledge of the facts, being the owner of one of the demised businesses.

You are welcome to accept what I say or deny it, that is your right. I, however will not degrade myself and come down to your level of argument, if that is what you call it, I certainly do not.

I therefore withdraw, safe in the knowledge that time will show where the truth lies. The game sir, for that is what you are playing here, is yours, and you are welcome to it

Are you implying that max and myself are the same person? Is this another statement you're making without evidence then?

I am sorry if you feel anyones attitude stinks, however you came onto a public forum and lied in an effort to stir up fear and resentment towards the airport, until you back up some of your statements with some proof they will remain lies.

Why not name your "business" what have you got to loose, how was your business able to survive the dc8's b757's and airbuses that operated into southend before easyjet arrived.

Flouncing off from an argument and saying your above it all is somewhat hamstrung by the fact you've been caught in a demonstrable lie regarding your earlier statements.

Max Impact wrote:

jayman wrote:

Max Impact wrote:

jayman wrote:
in other news..

The second coming of Christ?... Jesus seen in westcliff

meteor impact in Leigh. residents react to better taste in the tap water since the impact..

cure for all illness and diseases found by Southend scientist.

Southend is one of the largest towns in the UK with hundreds of major employers contributing to the string of long established local bushinesses. local residents react to this discovery. Beth hummingbottom said to our reporter "i was stunned to discover that Southend had more then one business.. i thought it was just the airport and nothing else" read the full story in tomorrows echo.

So how many people do you employ?

well..

two footmen
five butlers
five chamber maids
a groundsman
a game keeper
and a driver

im not sure who i employ on the lower estate. Charles handles all those things.

oh and there has to be al least seven hundred hands at the asbestos factory, I'm a responsible employer. i only ask the under tens to sweep the dusty floor...

Your lack of wit, proves that you offer employment to nobody, so why moan when jobs are being created.

Are you one of these people that will moan about a compnay if you are turned down for a job because your skills are lacking in the area of compnay work in.

Would you agree that the airport is a major and important employment centre for Southend, that it has created a large number of jobs that would not have come to this area of Essex had the airport not expanded.