Cannabis grower floods neighbour's flat

First published in Local News

A CANNABIS-GROWER caused almost £5,000 in flood damage to his neighbour’s flat.

Paul Kelly had been growing the plants in Woodfield Road, Hadleigh, when water began to seep through the ceiling of the flat below.

It caused appalling damage to the flooring, ceilings, carpets, and the walls needed re-plastering.

Kelly, 41, appeared before Southend Magistrates Court where he pleaded guilty to production of cannabis, abstracting electricity and criminal damage.

Prosecutor Lesley Chipps said he had tried to persuade the landlord not to call police. She said: “The landlord of the premises in Woodfield Road, Hadleigh, had been notified by there resident there had been some water damage from the above. He states he was contacted by Mr Kelly and was told police didn’t need to be informed as he had been growing cannabis.”

Police raided the address on August 25 and found 86 plants growing with the use of hydroponics equipment.

Miss Chipps said: “They found a large amount of water coming through. They were concerned about the electricity in the flat below and that a fire could break out.”

EDF Energy were contacted and it was established that electricity had also been extracted illegally, to the tune of about £800. It is estimated that if the plants had grown to maturity they would have yielded 3.86 kilos of the drug, worth £5,800 on the street.

It was decided that the matter was too serious to be sentenced at magistrates court because of the potential value of the cannabis.

Kelly, of Burnham Road, Latchingdon, in Chelmsford, was bailed to appear at Basildon Crown Court for sentence on December 3.

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11:08am Thu 15 Nov 12

Olivia2847 says...

EDF say that the power was extracted illegally - my arse, they are the biggest thieves themselves surely!.
EDF say that the power was extracted illegally - my arse, they are the biggest thieves themselves surely!. Olivia2847
  • Score: -6

11:32am Thu 15 Nov 12

Soouthchurch59 says...

Sloppy; all round....!
Sloppy; all round....! Soouthchurch59
  • Score: 0

12:45pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
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Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
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It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on! Aint it just the truth
  • Score: -48

12:58pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

who'd have thought it...cannabis and electricity abstraction? an illegal activity carried out illegally!
who'd have thought it...cannabis and electricity abstraction? an illegal activity carried out illegally! asbo industries inc
  • Score: 11

2:03pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Olivia2847 says...

asbo industries inc wrote:
who'd have thought it...cannabis and electricity abstraction? an illegal activity carried out illegally!
Took the spliff right out of my mouth!
[quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: who'd have thought it...cannabis and electricity abstraction? an illegal activity carried out illegally![/p][/quote]Took the spliff right out of my mouth! Olivia2847
  • Score: -9

2:13pm Thu 15 Nov 12

gcmercier says...

Yes causing a flood in your neighbour's flat is bad, and so is stealing electricity. But cannabis shouldn't be illegal in the first place. It's safer than alcohol and tobacco. If cannabis were legalised and regulated like alcohol and tobacco like what is happening now in Washington and Colorado, cannabis wouldn't be grown secretly with fear of arrest and incarceration like this poor guy, it would be grown professionally and its sales would be taxed. This would generate lots of tax revenue for the UK government, as well as requiring ID for users to purchase it. This would limit it's availability to teenagers.
Yes causing a flood in your neighbour's flat is bad, and so is stealing electricity. But cannabis shouldn't be illegal in the first place. It's safer than alcohol and tobacco. If cannabis were legalised and regulated like alcohol and tobacco like what is happening now in Washington and Colorado, cannabis wouldn't be grown secretly with fear of arrest and incarceration like this poor guy, it would be grown professionally and its sales would be taxed. This would generate lots of tax revenue for the UK government, as well as requiring ID for users to purchase it. This would limit it's availability to teenagers. gcmercier
  • Score: -25

2:34pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Eric Whim says...

what a dope
what a dope Eric Whim
  • Score: 9

3:34pm Thu 15 Nov 12

John T Pharro says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
Surprised at this from you. Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless.
Are you seriously suggesting you would encourage it's use?
Would hate to think drivers are on cannabis as much as alcohol.
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]Surprised at this from you. Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless. Are you seriously suggesting you would encourage it's use? Would hate to think drivers are on cannabis as much as alcohol. John T Pharro
  • Score: 13

3:35pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Nebs says...

When is the proceeds of crime hearing?
When is the proceeds of crime hearing? Nebs
  • Score: 11

3:38pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Eric Whim says...

Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless.


took me decades to kick the tobacco habit I picked up from toking spliffs
[quote]Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless.[/quote] took me decades to kick the tobacco habit I picked up from toking spliffs Eric Whim
  • Score: 5

4:10pm Thu 15 Nov 12

John T Pharro says...

Eric Whim wrote:
Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless.


took me decades to kick the tobacco habit I picked up from toking spliffs
As you are so quick to pick up on the "Echo's" misspellings what is "toking"!
[quote][p][bold]Eric Whim[/bold] wrote: [quote]Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless.[/quote] took me decades to kick the tobacco habit I picked up from toking spliffs[/p][/quote]As you are so quick to pick up on the "Echo's" misspellings what is "toking"! John T Pharro
  • Score: -7

4:18pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Eric Whim says...

John T Pharro wrote:
Eric Whim wrote:
Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless.


took me decades to kick the tobacco habit I picked up from toking spliffs
As you are so quick to pick up on the "Echo's" misspellings what is "toking"!
it's stoner slang for having a drag on a doobie -puffing on a reefer - smoking a 'jazz' cigarette etc.
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eric Whim[/bold] wrote: [quote]Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless.[/quote] took me decades to kick the tobacco habit I picked up from toking spliffs[/p][/quote]As you are so quick to pick up on the "Echo's" misspellings what is "toking"![/p][/quote]it's stoner slang for having a drag on a doobie -puffing on a reefer - smoking a 'jazz' cigarette etc. Eric Whim
  • Score: 2

5:06pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

John T Pharro wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
Surprised at this from you. Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless. Are you seriously suggesting you would encourage it's use? Would hate to think drivers are on cannabis as much as alcohol.
You clearly get your drug "facts" from the tabloids. The idea that cannabis use leads to other drugs is a fallacy that was disproved decades ago. Cannabis is as different from cocaine and heroin etc as nicotine and caffeine are from alcohol. Most alcoholics probably had a cup of tea before they took to the booze but tea doesn't lead on to alcohol use any more than having a toke (thanks Eric) leads to heroin use.
.
As for the harm caused, all the bona fide studies (rather than the biased 'studies' sponsored by the churches etc) show that only a tiny, miniscule proportion of tokers have problems. As a recent Cambridge Uni study said "the incidence of psychosis amongst cannabis users is so low it is almost the same as the incidence in the (non toking) general population". If this was not true our hosptals would be clogged up with cannabis casualties and they are not whereas they are clogged up with alcohol casualties.
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Well done to Colorado and Washington States for legalising. All the latest polls in the UK show that the majority of under 65's would now agree to legalising cannabis so not ling now chaps! Happy days!
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]Surprised at this from you. Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless. Are you seriously suggesting you would encourage it's use? Would hate to think drivers are on cannabis as much as alcohol.[/p][/quote]You clearly get your drug "facts" from the tabloids. The idea that cannabis use leads to other drugs is a fallacy that was disproved decades ago. Cannabis is as different from cocaine and heroin etc as nicotine and caffeine are from alcohol. Most alcoholics probably had a cup of tea before they took to the booze but tea doesn't lead on to alcohol use any more than having a toke (thanks Eric) leads to heroin use. . As for the harm caused, all the bona fide studies (rather than the biased 'studies' sponsored by the churches etc) show that only a tiny, miniscule proportion of tokers have problems. As a recent Cambridge Uni study said "the incidence of psychosis amongst cannabis users is so low it is almost the same as the incidence in the (non toking) general population". If this was not true our hosptals would be clogged up with cannabis casualties and they are not whereas they are clogged up with alcohol casualties. . Well done to Colorado and Washington States for legalising. All the latest polls in the UK show that the majority of under 65's would now agree to legalising cannabis so not ling now chaps! Happy days! Aint it just the truth
  • Score: -21

5:13pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.
ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis. Aint it just the truth
  • Score: -27

5:39pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Druggie Scumbag says...

Eric Whim wrote:
Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless.


took me decades to kick the tobacco habit I picked up from toking spliffs
Eric Whim, you dark horse!

I'll send you a piece of cake next time I'm in the old Amsterdam.
[quote][p][bold]Eric Whim[/bold] wrote: [quote]Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless.[/quote] took me decades to kick the tobacco habit I picked up from toking spliffs[/p][/quote]Eric Whim, you dark horse! I'll send you a piece of cake next time I'm in the old Amsterdam. Druggie Scumbag
  • Score: -3

5:55pm Thu 15 Nov 12

John T Pharro says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.
And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.[/p][/quote]And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit. John T Pharro
  • Score: 24

6:20pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Alan-_Hobday says...

The whole setup sounds very dodgy. Large cultivations of plants within a domestic home like this are a recipe for disaster when poorly installed. Not only do floods occur but often the electrical supply is badly wired causing a fire risk. Often, as in this case, the meters get bypassed- mainly to avoid detection from sudden large increases in use.
All these problems would be avoided if we had a legalised system where commercial growers could grow indoors in industrial units with proper safety inspections carried out, or maybe even grow it outdoors to stop the huge waste of electricity that indoor cultivation mandates. Adult users would be free to grow a few plants for themselves, either in the garden or in a properly constructed and safety inspected indoor growing area. They would be highly unlikely to bypass the meter in these circumstances as they need have no fear of detection.
The danger of clandestine operations like this is just one of the many evils of prohibition.
The whole setup sounds very dodgy. Large cultivations of plants within a domestic home like this are a recipe for disaster when poorly installed. Not only do floods occur but often the electrical supply is badly wired causing a fire risk. Often, as in this case, the meters get bypassed- mainly to avoid detection from sudden large increases in use. All these problems would be avoided if we had a legalised system where commercial growers could grow indoors in industrial units with proper safety inspections carried out, or maybe even grow it outdoors to stop the huge waste of electricity that indoor cultivation mandates. Adult users would be free to grow a few plants for themselves, either in the garden or in a properly constructed and safety inspected indoor growing area. They would be highly unlikely to bypass the meter in these circumstances as they need have no fear of detection. The danger of clandestine operations like this is just one of the many evils of prohibition. Alan-_Hobday
  • Score: -25

6:20pm Thu 15 Nov 12

SuperSilverSourDiesel says...

Ahhh, reading some of these comments show me the 40+ years of propaganda have taken effect.

Not all laws are there to protect or help us. Many reasons why cannabis was prohibited. Mostly vested interested and the fear of hemp production for logging companies in America, and Cotton farmers in Egypt. A lot of why it was outlawed had a lot to do with control, prejudice and racism. It had nothing at all to do with the effect from smoking cannabis. Alcohol prohibition had built an infrastructure, so when prohibition came to an end, many people including Harry Anslinger where going to be out of work. So working together with William Randolf Hearst, (a racist, owner of a huge chain of newspapers and had invested heavily in the timber industry to support his newspaper chain and didnt want to see the development of hemp paper in competition) they started the 'reefer-madness' campaign. Some quotes from Anslinger, an example of the propaganda -

the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races

You smoke a joint and your likely to kill your brother

Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind

There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others

Years and years of lies and propaganda have left the public misinformed and scared. The 'reefer madness' propaganda still exists, we see it in the Daily Mail all the time. So cannabis wasnt outlawed because it may have a small potential for harm when abused by an underdeveloped brain, it was everything to do with Money, vested interest and lies, and nothing to do with harm reduction. In fact, prohibiting cannabis has caused many more problems, harms and dangers than the cannabis itself. Simply by disallowing regulation gifting the control to the only people in society willing taking to risk freedom for fast cash, criminals.

Why is cannabis still illegal today, even though we should have learnt our lesson from alcohol prohibition?

Vested Interest, Corrupt/Cowardly politicians, Propaganda and misinformation, The pressure from the alcohol lobby, GWpharma (who grow cannabis in Kent), the people getting paid thanks to prohibition (Alcohol, tobacco, pharmaceutical companies, drug testing companies, i could go on...) and of course, personal prejudices. Im not saying cannabis is harmless, but compared to aspirin, its MUCH safer. Its a medicine, and has been considered a medicine a lot longer than its been considered a street drug. No one would consider any psychoactive substance 'safe', but compared to alcohol, tobacco and pharmaceuticals, its so much safer for responsible adults to use.

''im fairly confident that cannabis is safe for over-18 brains, but risky for under-18 brains'' - Professor Terrie Moffitt, Institute of Psychiatry at King's College London, 2012

But the media love to lie about cannabis or any other drug for that matter.

"If a scientist announces their research has found ecstasy to be safer than alcohol, I know my job as a tabloid reporter is to portray this man as a quack." - Richard Peppiatt, Daily Star reporter, the Leveson inquiry

We need to take the control away from criminals. Undercutting prices and bringing it into a regulated market will see a decline in criminals selling it and children buying it. When a country regulates cannabis, drug use goes down and age of first use goes up. 99% of associated crimes decline. Prohibition has always done the opposite of what its meant to. Its a failed experiment having nothing to do with Expert advice, scientific evidence or our health and safety. Just say No to prohibition, it causes more harm than cannabis ever could.
Ahhh, reading some of these comments show me the 40+ years of propaganda have taken effect. Not all laws are there to protect or help us. Many reasons why cannabis was prohibited. Mostly vested interested and the fear of hemp production for logging companies in America, and Cotton farmers in Egypt. A lot of why it was outlawed had a lot to do with control, prejudice and racism. It had nothing at all to do with the effect from smoking cannabis. Alcohol prohibition had built an infrastructure, so when prohibition came to an end, many people including Harry Anslinger where going to be out of work. So working together with William Randolf Hearst, (a racist, owner of a huge chain of newspapers and had invested heavily in the timber industry to support his newspaper chain and didnt want to see the development of hemp paper in competition) they started the 'reefer-madness' campaign. Some quotes from Anslinger, an example of the propaganda - the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races You smoke a joint and your likely to kill your brother Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others Years and years of lies and propaganda have left the public misinformed and scared. The 'reefer madness' propaganda still exists, we see it in the Daily Mail all the time. So cannabis wasnt outlawed because it may have a small potential for harm when abused by an underdeveloped brain, it was everything to do with Money, vested interest and lies, and nothing to do with harm reduction. In fact, prohibiting cannabis has caused many more problems, harms and dangers than the cannabis itself. Simply by disallowing regulation gifting the control to the only people in society willing taking to risk freedom for fast cash, criminals. Why is cannabis still illegal today, even though we should have learnt our lesson from alcohol prohibition? Vested Interest, Corrupt/Cowardly politicians, Propaganda and misinformation, The pressure from the alcohol lobby, GWpharma (who grow cannabis in Kent), the people getting paid thanks to prohibition (Alcohol, tobacco, pharmaceutical companies, drug testing companies, i could go on...) and of course, personal prejudices. Im not saying cannabis is harmless, but compared to aspirin, its MUCH safer. Its a medicine, and has been considered a medicine a lot longer than its been considered a street drug. No one would consider any psychoactive substance 'safe', but compared to alcohol, tobacco and pharmaceuticals, its so much safer for responsible adults to use. ''im fairly confident that cannabis is safe for over-18 brains, but risky for under-18 brains'' - Professor Terrie Moffitt, Institute of Psychiatry at King's College London, 2012 But the media love to lie about cannabis or any other drug for that matter. "If a scientist announces their research has found ecstasy to be safer than alcohol, I know my job as a tabloid reporter is to portray this man as a quack." - Richard Peppiatt, Daily Star reporter, the Leveson inquiry We need to take the control away from criminals. Undercutting prices and bringing it into a regulated market will see a decline in criminals selling it and children buying it. When a country regulates cannabis, drug use goes down and age of first use goes up. 99% of associated crimes decline. Prohibition has always done the opposite of what its meant to. Its a failed experiment having nothing to do with Expert advice, scientific evidence or our health and safety. Just say No to prohibition, it causes more harm than cannabis ever could. SuperSilverSourDiesel
  • Score: -27

6:29pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Brunning999 says...

Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of!
Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of! Brunning999
  • Score: 23

7:08pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Nebs says...

Just say no to illegal drugs.
Just say no to illegal drugs. Nebs
  • Score: 9

7:11pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

ah the unwelcome arrival of the cannabots.
ah the unwelcome arrival of the cannabots. asbo industries inc
  • Score: 7

7:18pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

a brief tour through the dope stories reported in this newspaper will tell you that cannabis and criminality are inextricably linked...be that the cultivators or the users (and i'm not just referring to the illegality of the substance but their "peripheral" activities).
http://www.echo-news
.co.uk/news/local_ne
ws/southend/9829604.
Man_found_guilty_of_
killing_at_Southend_
towerblock/
a brief tour through the dope stories reported in this newspaper will tell you that cannabis and criminality are inextricably linked...be that the cultivators or the users (and i'm not just referring to the illegality of the substance but their "peripheral" activities). http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/local_ne ws/southend/9829604. Man_found_guilty_of_ killing_at_Southend_ towerblock/ asbo industries inc
  • Score: 9

7:37pm Thu 15 Nov 12

John T Pharro says...

John T Pharro wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.
And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.
And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.[/p][/quote]And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.[/p][/quote]And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic? John T Pharro
  • Score: 8

7:53pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Alan-_Hobday says...

Brunning999 wrote:
Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of!
The sooner it changes the better.
[quote][p][bold]Brunning999[/bold] wrote: Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of![/p][/quote]The sooner it changes the better. Alan-_Hobday
  • Score: -13

8:01pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Alan-_Hobday says...

Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.
I'll say no to the two worst "legal highs" booze and fags. Can't stand 'em.
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: Just say no to illegal drugs.[/p][/quote]I'll say no to the two worst "legal highs" booze and fags. Can't stand 'em. Alan-_Hobday
  • Score: -1

8:36pm Thu 15 Nov 12

SuperSilverSourDiesel says...

Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.
What a dreadfully irresponsible statement.

Just say NO!!!!

Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF.

What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: Just say no to illegal drugs.[/p][/quote]What a dreadfully irresponsible statement. Just say NO!!!! Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF. What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support. SuperSilverSourDiesel
  • Score: -10

9:15pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

SuperSilverSourDiese
l
wrote:
Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.
What a dreadfully irresponsible statement.

Just say NO!!!!

Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF.

What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.
all that weed is making you paranoid. i recommend a plate of cold turkey.
[quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: Just say no to illegal drugs.[/p][/quote]What a dreadfully irresponsible statement. Just say NO!!!! Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF. What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.[/p][/quote]all that weed is making you paranoid. i recommend a plate of cold turkey. asbo industries inc
  • Score: 8

9:16pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Brunning999 wrote:
Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of!
The sooner it changes the better.
don't hold your breath. actually do hold your breath...
[quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brunning999[/bold] wrote: Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of![/p][/quote]The sooner it changes the better.[/p][/quote]don't hold your breath. actually do hold your breath... asbo industries inc
  • Score: 7

9:36pm Thu 15 Nov 12

SuperSilverSourDiesel says...

asbo industries inc wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese

l
wrote:
Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.
What a dreadfully irresponsible statement.

Just say NO!!!!

Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF.

What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.
all that weed is making you paranoid. i recommend a plate of cold turkey.
You are deluded if you have to boil that down to paranoia, and in denial if you think what i said doesnt go on and in fact shows how strong your argument is by resorting to that pathetic response.

How about coming back with a real response to what i said instead of school boy insults that does you NO favours.
[quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: Just say no to illegal drugs.[/p][/quote]What a dreadfully irresponsible statement. Just say NO!!!! Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF. What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.[/p][/quote]all that weed is making you paranoid. i recommend a plate of cold turkey.[/p][/quote]You are deluded if you have to boil that down to paranoia, and in denial if you think what i said doesnt go on and in fact shows how strong your argument is by resorting to that pathetic response. How about coming back with a real response to what i said instead of school boy insults that does you NO favours. SuperSilverSourDiesel
  • Score: -8

9:43pm Thu 15 Nov 12

SuperSilverSourDiesel says...

asbo industries inc wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Brunning999 wrote:
Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of!
The sooner it changes the better.
don't hold your breath. actually do hold your breath...
How about you stop randomly insulting people for using a substance safer than aspirin?

You wish death on people who are non violent, and who wish to cause you no harm.

I fact, unfortunately, i think i have been feeding a pathetic troll who seems to want to simply get a reaction out of people who disagree with prohibition.
to call you a pathetic excuse for a human would be a dreadful understatement.
[quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brunning999[/bold] wrote: Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of![/p][/quote]The sooner it changes the better.[/p][/quote]don't hold your breath. actually do hold your breath...[/p][/quote]How about you stop randomly insulting people for using a substance safer than aspirin? You wish death on people who are non violent, and who wish to cause you no harm. I fact, unfortunately, i think i have been feeding a pathetic troll who seems to want to simply get a reaction out of people who disagree with prohibition. to call you a pathetic excuse for a human would be a dreadful understatement. SuperSilverSourDiesel
  • Score: -7

9:43pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Alan-_Hobday says...

asbo industries inc wrote:
ah the unwelcome arrival of the cannabots.
Ladies and geltlemen I present to you.......... ASBO. The troll of the Echo who has been annoying people with ignorant and inflamatory nonsense for many years. Best to ignore him folks.
[quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: ah the unwelcome arrival of the cannabots.[/p][/quote]Ladies and geltlemen I present to you.......... ASBO. The troll of the Echo who has been annoying people with ignorant and inflamatory nonsense for many years. Best to ignore him folks. Alan-_Hobday
  • Score: -10

9:47pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

SuperSilverSourDiese
l
wrote:
asbo industries inc wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese


l
wrote:
Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.
What a dreadfully irresponsible statement.

Just say NO!!!!

Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF.

What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.
all that weed is making you paranoid. i recommend a plate of cold turkey.
You are deluded if you have to boil that down to paranoia, and in denial if you think what i said doesnt go on and in fact shows how strong your argument is by resorting to that pathetic response.

How about coming back with a real response to what i said instead of school boy insults that does you NO favours.
you need to plug yourself back into the peter reynolds mainframe or should that be let him re-insert his arm up your rear end. your response is the paranoia cream on the paranoia cake.
[quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: Just say no to illegal drugs.[/p][/quote]What a dreadfully irresponsible statement. Just say NO!!!! Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF. What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.[/p][/quote]all that weed is making you paranoid. i recommend a plate of cold turkey.[/p][/quote]You are deluded if you have to boil that down to paranoia, and in denial if you think what i said doesnt go on and in fact shows how strong your argument is by resorting to that pathetic response. How about coming back with a real response to what i said instead of school boy insults that does you NO favours.[/p][/quote]you need to plug yourself back into the peter reynolds mainframe or should that be let him re-insert his arm up your rear end. your response is the paranoia cream on the paranoia cake. asbo industries inc
  • Score: 5

9:49pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

SuperSilverSourDiese
l
wrote:
asbo industries inc wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Brunning999 wrote:
Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of!
The sooner it changes the better.
don't hold your breath. actually do hold your breath...
How about you stop randomly insulting people for using a substance safer than aspirin?

You wish death on people who are non violent, and who wish to cause you no harm.

I fact, unfortunately, i think i have been feeding a pathetic troll who seems to want to simply get a reaction out of people who disagree with prohibition.
to call you a pathetic excuse for a human would be a dreadful understatement.
maybe you can try to develop a spine. you might find it helps to get you through life without your "medicinal" crutch
[quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brunning999[/bold] wrote: Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of![/p][/quote]The sooner it changes the better.[/p][/quote]don't hold your breath. actually do hold your breath...[/p][/quote]How about you stop randomly insulting people for using a substance safer than aspirin? You wish death on people who are non violent, and who wish to cause you no harm. I fact, unfortunately, i think i have been feeding a pathetic troll who seems to want to simply get a reaction out of people who disagree with prohibition. to call you a pathetic excuse for a human would be a dreadful understatement.[/p][/quote]maybe you can try to develop a spine. you might find it helps to get you through life without your "medicinal" crutch asbo industries inc
  • Score: 2

9:50pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Alan-_Hobday says...

Isn't it a disgrace how the British government wants us to remain behind as a third rate nation, whilst the truly progressive nations are making great strides towards legalisation. Already fully legal in two states of America, with another four moving towards full legalisation and many other states already offering legal cannabis to medicinal users. Once that kingpin of enforced prohibition and misery is out of the way the rest of the prohibitionist fiefdoms will come tumbling down like dominoes.
Isn't it a disgrace how the British government wants us to remain behind as a third rate nation, whilst the truly progressive nations are making great strides towards legalisation. Already fully legal in two states of America, with another four moving towards full legalisation and many other states already offering legal cannabis to medicinal users. Once that kingpin of enforced prohibition and misery is out of the way the rest of the prohibitionist fiefdoms will come tumbling down like dominoes. Alan-_Hobday
  • Score: -5

9:50pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

SuperSilverSourDiese
l
wrote:
asbo industries inc wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Brunning999 wrote:
Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of!
The sooner it changes the better.
don't hold your breath. actually do hold your breath...
How about you stop randomly insulting people for using a substance safer than aspirin?

You wish death on people who are non violent, and who wish to cause you no harm.

I fact, unfortunately, i think i have been feeding a pathetic troll who seems to want to simply get a reaction out of people who disagree with prohibition.
to call you a pathetic excuse for a human would be a dreadful understatement.
http://www.echo-news
.co.uk/news/local_ne
ws/southend/9829604.
Man_found_guilty_of_
killing_at_Southend_
towerblock/
[quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brunning999[/bold] wrote: Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of![/p][/quote]The sooner it changes the better.[/p][/quote]don't hold your breath. actually do hold your breath...[/p][/quote]How about you stop randomly insulting people for using a substance safer than aspirin? You wish death on people who are non violent, and who wish to cause you no harm. I fact, unfortunately, i think i have been feeding a pathetic troll who seems to want to simply get a reaction out of people who disagree with prohibition. to call you a pathetic excuse for a human would be a dreadful understatement.[/p][/quote]http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/local_ne ws/southend/9829604. Man_found_guilty_of_ killing_at_Southend_ towerblock/ asbo industries inc
  • Score: 3

9:54pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

Alan-_Hobday wrote:
asbo industries inc wrote:
ah the unwelcome arrival of the cannabots.
Ladies and geltlemen I present to you.......... ASBO. The troll of the Echo who has been annoying people with ignorant and inflamatory nonsense for many years. Best to ignore him folks.
folks being the drug addled losers or the cannabots. you're new here...how would you have any clue? answer: you have no clue just a dope addiction.
[quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: ah the unwelcome arrival of the cannabots.[/p][/quote]Ladies and geltlemen I present to you.......... ASBO. The troll of the Echo who has been annoying people with ignorant and inflamatory nonsense for many years. Best to ignore him folks.[/p][/quote]folks being the drug addled losers or the cannabots. you're new here...how would you have any clue? answer: you have no clue just a dope addiction. asbo industries inc
  • Score: 4

9:55pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

Alan-_Hobday wrote:
asbo industries inc wrote:
ah the unwelcome arrival of the cannabots.
Ladies and geltlemen I present to you.......... ASBO. The troll of the Echo who has been annoying people with ignorant and inflamatory nonsense for many years. Best to ignore him folks.
your response would appear to be an admission of cannabotism
[quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: ah the unwelcome arrival of the cannabots.[/p][/quote]Ladies and geltlemen I present to you.......... ASBO. The troll of the Echo who has been annoying people with ignorant and inflamatory nonsense for many years. Best to ignore him folks.[/p][/quote]your response would appear to be an admission of cannabotism asbo industries inc
  • Score: 4

9:56pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Lastlaugh... says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
But in the mean time...its illegal.
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]But in the mean time...its illegal. Lastlaugh...
  • Score: 3

9:59pm Thu 15 Nov 12

SuperSilverSourDiesel says...

Lastlaugh... wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
But in the mean time...its illegal.
Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.
[quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]But in the mean time...its illegal.[/p][/quote]Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm. SuperSilverSourDiesel
  • Score: -8

9:59pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

the mean time is forever more
the mean time is forever more asbo industries inc
  • Score: 5

10:06pm Thu 15 Nov 12

SuperSilverSourDiesel says...

asbo industries inc wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese

l
wrote:
asbo industries inc wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Brunning999 wrote:
Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of!
The sooner it changes the better.
don't hold your breath. actually do hold your breath...
How about you stop randomly insulting people for using a substance safer than aspirin?

You wish death on people who are non violent, and who wish to cause you no harm.

I fact, unfortunately, i think i have been feeding a pathetic troll who seems to want to simply get a reaction out of people who disagree with prohibition.
to call you a pathetic excuse for a human would be a dreadful understatement.
http://www.echo-news

.co.uk/news/local_ne

ws/southend/9829604.

Man_found_guilty_of_

killing_at_Southend_

towerblock/
Your a troll, and showing me a story involving robbery does not change the fact that you are a pathetic vile troll. I will not waste my time on you, but the last thing i will say is, the only reason you are saying these things and trolling under the bridge that is Echo news, is because you are behind the comfort of your PC screen. Cowardice, and lacking proper intellect with poor response, usually resorting to random insult as a result is what trolls do. Let me know when you have evolved to the point where your able to stop grazing in that field, and are able to leave it. Until then, to call you a sheep is a compliment to your cognitive function.
[quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brunning999[/bold] wrote: Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of![/p][/quote]The sooner it changes the better.[/p][/quote]don't hold your breath. actually do hold your breath...[/p][/quote]How about you stop randomly insulting people for using a substance safer than aspirin? You wish death on people who are non violent, and who wish to cause you no harm. I fact, unfortunately, i think i have been feeding a pathetic troll who seems to want to simply get a reaction out of people who disagree with prohibition. to call you a pathetic excuse for a human would be a dreadful understatement.[/p][/quote]http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/local_ne ws/southend/9829604. Man_found_guilty_of_ killing_at_Southend_ towerblock/[/p][/quote]Your a troll, and showing me a story involving robbery does not change the fact that you are a pathetic vile troll. I will not waste my time on you, but the last thing i will say is, the only reason you are saying these things and trolling under the bridge that is Echo news, is because you are behind the comfort of your PC screen. Cowardice, and lacking proper intellect with poor response, usually resorting to random insult as a result is what trolls do. Let me know when you have evolved to the point where your able to stop grazing in that field, and are able to leave it. Until then, to call you a sheep is a compliment to your cognitive function. SuperSilverSourDiesel
  • Score: -7

10:07pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Alan-_Hobday says...

Lastlaugh... wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
But in the mean time...its illegal.
And your point is????
[quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]But in the mean time...its illegal.[/p][/quote]And your point is???? Alan-_Hobday
  • Score: -4

10:08pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Isn't it a disgrace how the British government wants us to remain behind as a third rate nation, whilst the truly progressive nations are making great strides towards legalisation. Already fully legal in two states of America, with another four moving towards full legalisation and many other states already offering legal cannabis to medicinal users. Once that kingpin of enforced prohibition and misery is out of the way the rest of the prohibitionist fiefdoms will come tumbling down like dominoes.
the US is going through the last days of the roman empire. policies like cannabis legalisation, which will never be a at federal level btw, will only hasten their demise
[quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: Isn't it a disgrace how the British government wants us to remain behind as a third rate nation, whilst the truly progressive nations are making great strides towards legalisation. Already fully legal in two states of America, with another four moving towards full legalisation and many other states already offering legal cannabis to medicinal users. Once that kingpin of enforced prohibition and misery is out of the way the rest of the prohibitionist fiefdoms will come tumbling down like dominoes.[/p][/quote]the US is going through the last days of the roman empire. policies like cannabis legalisation, which will never be a at federal level btw, will only hasten their demise asbo industries inc
  • Score: 6

10:11pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

SuperSilverSourDiese
l
wrote:
asbo industries inc wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese


l
wrote:
asbo industries inc wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Brunning999 wrote:
Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of!
The sooner it changes the better.
don't hold your breath. actually do hold your breath...
How about you stop randomly insulting people for using a substance safer than aspirin?

You wish death on people who are non violent, and who wish to cause you no harm.

I fact, unfortunately, i think i have been feeding a pathetic troll who seems to want to simply get a reaction out of people who disagree with prohibition.
to call you a pathetic excuse for a human would be a dreadful understatement.
http://www.echo-news


.co.uk/news/local_ne


ws/southend/9829604.


Man_found_guilty_of_


killing_at_Southend_


towerblock/
Your a troll, and showing me a story involving robbery does not change the fact that you are a pathetic vile troll. I will not waste my time on you, but the last thing i will say is, the only reason you are saying these things and trolling under the bridge that is Echo news, is because you are behind the comfort of your PC screen. Cowardice, and lacking proper intellect with poor response, usually resorting to random insult as a result is what trolls do. Let me know when you have evolved to the point where your able to stop grazing in that field, and are able to leave it. Until then, to call you a sheep is a compliment to your cognitive function.
i'll meet you anytime and tell you to your face you invertebrate (although you'll have to pay me for my time and i'm not cheap...i don't accept rubberised, benefits cheques btw)
[quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brunning999[/bold] wrote: Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of![/p][/quote]The sooner it changes the better.[/p][/quote]don't hold your breath. actually do hold your breath...[/p][/quote]How about you stop randomly insulting people for using a substance safer than aspirin? You wish death on people who are non violent, and who wish to cause you no harm. I fact, unfortunately, i think i have been feeding a pathetic troll who seems to want to simply get a reaction out of people who disagree with prohibition. to call you a pathetic excuse for a human would be a dreadful understatement.[/p][/quote]http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/local_ne ws/southend/9829604. Man_found_guilty_of_ killing_at_Southend_ towerblock/[/p][/quote]Your a troll, and showing me a story involving robbery does not change the fact that you are a pathetic vile troll. I will not waste my time on you, but the last thing i will say is, the only reason you are saying these things and trolling under the bridge that is Echo news, is because you are behind the comfort of your PC screen. Cowardice, and lacking proper intellect with poor response, usually resorting to random insult as a result is what trolls do. Let me know when you have evolved to the point where your able to stop grazing in that field, and are able to leave it. Until then, to call you a sheep is a compliment to your cognitive function.[/p][/quote]i'll meet you anytime and tell you to your face you invertebrate (although you'll have to pay me for my time and i'm not cheap...i don't accept rubberised, benefits cheques btw) asbo industries inc
  • Score: 5

10:15pm Thu 15 Nov 12

SuperSilverSourDiesel says...

asbo industries inc wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese

l
wrote:
asbo industries inc wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese



l
wrote:
asbo industries inc wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Brunning999 wrote:
Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of!
The sooner it changes the better.
don't hold your breath. actually do hold your breath...
How about you stop randomly insulting people for using a substance safer than aspirin?

You wish death on people who are non violent, and who wish to cause you no harm.

I fact, unfortunately, i think i have been feeding a pathetic troll who seems to want to simply get a reaction out of people who disagree with prohibition.
to call you a pathetic excuse for a human would be a dreadful understatement.
http://www.echo-news



.co.uk/news/local_ne



ws/southend/9829604.



Man_found_guilty_of_



killing_at_Southend_



towerblock/
Your a troll, and showing me a story involving robbery does not change the fact that you are a pathetic vile troll. I will not waste my time on you, but the last thing i will say is, the only reason you are saying these things and trolling under the bridge that is Echo news, is because you are behind the comfort of your PC screen. Cowardice, and lacking proper intellect with poor response, usually resorting to random insult as a result is what trolls do. Let me know when you have evolved to the point where your able to stop grazing in that field, and are able to leave it. Until then, to call you a sheep is a compliment to your cognitive function.
i'll meet you anytime and tell you to your face you invertebrate (although you'll have to pay me for my time and i'm not cheap...i don't accept rubberised, benefits cheques btw)
I would love you to say this to my face, it would be a dream come true. When where?
[quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brunning999[/bold] wrote: Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of![/p][/quote]The sooner it changes the better.[/p][/quote]don't hold your breath. actually do hold your breath...[/p][/quote]How about you stop randomly insulting people for using a substance safer than aspirin? You wish death on people who are non violent, and who wish to cause you no harm. I fact, unfortunately, i think i have been feeding a pathetic troll who seems to want to simply get a reaction out of people who disagree with prohibition. to call you a pathetic excuse for a human would be a dreadful understatement.[/p][/quote]http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/local_ne ws/southend/9829604. Man_found_guilty_of_ killing_at_Southend_ towerblock/[/p][/quote]Your a troll, and showing me a story involving robbery does not change the fact that you are a pathetic vile troll. I will not waste my time on you, but the last thing i will say is, the only reason you are saying these things and trolling under the bridge that is Echo news, is because you are behind the comfort of your PC screen. Cowardice, and lacking proper intellect with poor response, usually resorting to random insult as a result is what trolls do. Let me know when you have evolved to the point where your able to stop grazing in that field, and are able to leave it. Until then, to call you a sheep is a compliment to your cognitive function.[/p][/quote]i'll meet you anytime and tell you to your face you invertebrate (although you'll have to pay me for my time and i'm not cheap...i don't accept rubberised, benefits cheques btw)[/p][/quote]I would love you to say this to my face, it would be a dream come true. When where? SuperSilverSourDiesel
  • Score: 0

10:18pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

you'll have to come to southend. do you even know where that is?
you'll have to come to southend. do you even know where that is? asbo industries inc
  • Score: 0

10:21pm Thu 15 Nov 12

SuperSilverSourDiesel says...

asbo industries inc wrote:
you'll have to come to southend. do you even know where that is?
Well, we would have to meet half way, i wouldnt go all that way for a retarded prohibitionist.
[quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: you'll have to come to southend. do you even know where that is?[/p][/quote]Well, we would have to meet half way, i wouldnt go all that way for a retarded prohibitionist. SuperSilverSourDiesel
  • Score: 2

10:22pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Lastlaugh... says...

Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
But in the mean time...its illegal.
And your point is????
Just that!
[quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]But in the mean time...its illegal.[/p][/quote]And your point is????[/p][/quote]Just that! Lastlaugh...
  • Score: 0

10:24pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

so you don't love it that much then... i guess getting up at the crack of noon doesn't leave you time to fit much in
so you don't love it that much then... i guess getting up at the crack of noon doesn't leave you time to fit much in asbo industries inc
  • Score: 0

10:29pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

the conviction of an average dope addict... anytime!!! make that meet you half way!! make that cower in my squat, draw the curtains and light another spliff.
the conviction of an average dope addict... anytime!!! make that meet you half way!! make that cower in my squat, draw the curtains and light another spliff. asbo industries inc
  • Score: 0

10:30pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Lastlaugh... says...

SuperSilverSourDiese
l
wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
But in the mean time...its illegal.
Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.
LOL...You surmise a lot...but the fact is this herb at the moment is illegal..no getting away from that... Mauna Kea is also the tallest mountain on the planet... doesn't mean i want to upset or destroy Everest tourism...
[quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]But in the mean time...its illegal.[/p][/quote]Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.[/p][/quote]LOL...You surmise a lot...but the fact is this herb at the moment is illegal..no getting away from that... Mauna Kea is also the tallest mountain on the planet... doesn't mean i want to upset or destroy Everest tourism... Lastlaugh...
  • Score: 0

10:32pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Nebs says...

Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.
I'll say no to the two worst "legal highs" booze and fags. Can't stand 'em.
Well done. Good for you. Now just say no to the illegal ones too.
[quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: Just say no to illegal drugs.[/p][/quote]I'll say no to the two worst "legal highs" booze and fags. Can't stand 'em.[/p][/quote]Well done. Good for you. Now just say no to the illegal ones too. Nebs
  • Score: 0

10:33pm Thu 15 Nov 12

SuperSilverSourDiesel says...

asbo industries inc wrote:
the conviction of an average dope addict... anytime!!! make that meet you half way!! make that cower in my squat, draw the curtains and light another spliff.
LOL what planet do you live on. Why would i come all way to you? I will meet you Half way, if you decline, who is the coward?
[quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: the conviction of an average dope addict... anytime!!! make that meet you half way!! make that cower in my squat, draw the curtains and light another spliff.[/p][/quote]LOL what planet do you live on. Why would i come all way to you? I will meet you Half way, if you decline, who is the coward? SuperSilverSourDiesel
  • Score: 0

10:34pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

http://www.echo-news
.co.uk/news/local_ne
ws/southend/9829604.
Man_found_guilty_of_
killing_at_Southend_
towerblock/
http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/local_ne ws/southend/9829604. Man_found_guilty_of_ killing_at_Southend_ towerblock/ asbo industries inc
  • Score: 0

10:34pm Thu 15 Nov 12

SuperSilverSourDiesel says...

Lastlaugh... wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese

l
wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
But in the mean time...its illegal.
Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.
LOL...You surmise a lot...but the fact is this herb at the moment is illegal..no getting away from that... Mauna Kea is also the tallest mountain on the planet... doesn't mean i want to upset or destroy Everest tourism...
Im talking about you blindly supporting a policy that causes more harm than good.
Why?
[quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]But in the mean time...its illegal.[/p][/quote]Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.[/p][/quote]LOL...You surmise a lot...but the fact is this herb at the moment is illegal..no getting away from that... Mauna Kea is also the tallest mountain on the planet... doesn't mean i want to upset or destroy Everest tourism...[/p][/quote]Im talking about you blindly supporting a policy that causes more harm than good. Why? SuperSilverSourDiesel
  • Score: 0

10:36pm Thu 15 Nov 12

SuperSilverSourDiesel says...

http://blog.imva.inf
o/medicine/medical-m
arijuana-saves-babys
-life/
http://blog.imva.inf o/medicine/medical-m arijuana-saves-babys -life/ SuperSilverSourDiesel
  • Score: 0

10:36pm Thu 15 Nov 12

SuperSilverSourDiesel says...

http://www.clear-uk.
org/james-story-how-
medicinal-cannabis-s
aves-a-father-and-hi
s-four-year-old-son/
http://www.clear-uk. org/james-story-how- medicinal-cannabis-s aves-a-father-and-hi s-four-year-old-son/ SuperSilverSourDiesel
  • Score: 0

10:38pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

SuperSilverSourDiese
l
wrote:
asbo industries inc wrote:
the conviction of an average dope addict... anytime!!! make that meet you half way!! make that cower in my squat, draw the curtains and light another spliff.
LOL what planet do you live on. Why would i come all way to you? I will meet you Half way, if you decline, who is the coward?
you are a clown of the highest order. coco aspires to your level of clowndom. you have asked me to tell you to face. i have told you anytime but you pay for my time. try reading this post without having to peer through a cloud of cannabis smoke. it may make more sense.
[quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: the conviction of an average dope addict... anytime!!! make that meet you half way!! make that cower in my squat, draw the curtains and light another spliff.[/p][/quote]LOL what planet do you live on. Why would i come all way to you? I will meet you Half way, if you decline, who is the coward?[/p][/quote]you are a clown of the highest order. coco aspires to your level of clowndom. you have asked me to tell you to face. i have told you anytime but you pay for my time. try reading this post without having to peer through a cloud of cannabis smoke. it may make more sense. asbo industries inc
  • Score: 1

10:39pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

http://www.echo-news
.co.uk/news/local_ne
ws/southend/9829604.
Man_found_guilty_of_
killing_at_Southend_
towerblock/
http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/local_ne ws/southend/9829604. Man_found_guilty_of_ killing_at_Southend_ towerblock/ asbo industries inc
  • Score: 1

10:51pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Alan-_Hobday says...

Lastlaugh... wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
But in the mean time...its illegal.
And your point is????
Just that!
So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here.

You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal.

I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious.

Maybe not..
[quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]But in the mean time...its illegal.[/p][/quote]And your point is????[/p][/quote]Just that![/p][/quote]So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here. You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal. I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious. Maybe not.. Alan-_Hobday
  • Score: 0

10:52pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Lastlaugh... says...

SuperSilverSourDiese
l
wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese


l
wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
But in the mean time...its illegal.
Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.
LOL...You surmise a lot...but the fact is this herb at the moment is illegal..no getting away from that... Mauna Kea is also the tallest mountain on the planet... doesn't mean i want to upset or destroy Everest tourism...
Im talking about you blindly supporting a policy that causes more harm than good.
Why?
How is it "blindly" ?

Is it a policy or is it a 'law' ?
[quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]But in the mean time...its illegal.[/p][/quote]Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.[/p][/quote]LOL...You surmise a lot...but the fact is this herb at the moment is illegal..no getting away from that... Mauna Kea is also the tallest mountain on the planet... doesn't mean i want to upset or destroy Everest tourism...[/p][/quote]Im talking about you blindly supporting a policy that causes more harm than good. Why?[/p][/quote]How is it "blindly" ? Is it a policy or is it a 'law' ? Lastlaugh...
  • Score: 0

10:54pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

so alan, you duck the tough questions. what's up...cat got your spine?
so alan, you duck the tough questions. what's up...cat got your spine? asbo industries inc
  • Score: 0

10:57pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Lastlaugh... says...

Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
But in the mean time...its illegal.
And your point is????
Just that!
So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here.

You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal.

I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious.

Maybe not..
Any evidence to support your wishful thinking "soon it will happen here" ?

Yes...it is indeed illegal and all the puffing and blowing on here wont make it any less illegal....construct
ive points notwithstanding...
[quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]But in the mean time...its illegal.[/p][/quote]And your point is????[/p][/quote]Just that![/p][/quote]So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here. You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal. I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious. Maybe not..[/p][/quote]Any evidence to support your wishful thinking "soon it will happen here" ? Yes...it is indeed illegal and all the puffing and blowing on here wont make it any less illegal....construct ive points notwithstanding... Lastlaugh...
  • Score: 1

11:00pm Thu 15 Nov 12

SuperSilverSourDiesel says...

asbo industries inc wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese

l
wrote:
asbo industries inc wrote:
the conviction of an average dope addict... anytime!!! make that meet you half way!! make that cower in my squat, draw the curtains and light another spliff.
LOL what planet do you live on. Why would i come all way to you? I will meet you Half way, if you decline, who is the coward?
you are a clown of the highest order. coco aspires to your level of clowndom. you have asked me to tell you to face. i have told you anytime but you pay for my time. try reading this post without having to peer through a cloud of cannabis smoke. it may make more sense.
How About not resulting to childish insults? How about not supporting a policy/law which is undoubtedly causing more harm than good? How about being a man instead of a troll? How about realising that yes, instead of alcohol i use cannabis. Do i use it all the time? Nope, not even everyday. But like all humans, i do things to relax. Apart from using Exercise to realise chemicals to relax myself, i smoke cannabis occasionally. So how about not resorting to the 'paranoid' 'cloud of smoke' **** and being a bit grown up about this? No? Still going to troll?
[quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: the conviction of an average dope addict... anytime!!! make that meet you half way!! make that cower in my squat, draw the curtains and light another spliff.[/p][/quote]LOL what planet do you live on. Why would i come all way to you? I will meet you Half way, if you decline, who is the coward?[/p][/quote]you are a clown of the highest order. coco aspires to your level of clowndom. you have asked me to tell you to face. i have told you anytime but you pay for my time. try reading this post without having to peer through a cloud of cannabis smoke. it may make more sense.[/p][/quote]How About not resulting to childish insults? How about not supporting a policy/law which is undoubtedly causing more harm than good? How about being a man instead of a troll? How about realising that yes, instead of alcohol i use cannabis. Do i use it all the time? Nope, not even everyday. But like all humans, i do things to relax. Apart from using Exercise to realise chemicals to relax myself, i smoke cannabis occasionally. So how about not resorting to the 'paranoid' 'cloud of smoke' **** and being a bit grown up about this? No? Still going to troll? SuperSilverSourDiesel
  • Score: -1

11:01pm Thu 15 Nov 12

SuperSilverSourDiesel says...

Lastlaugh... wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese

l
wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese



l
wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
But in the mean time...its illegal.
Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.
LOL...You surmise a lot...but the fact is this herb at the moment is illegal..no getting away from that... Mauna Kea is also the tallest mountain on the planet... doesn't mean i want to upset or destroy Everest tourism...
Im talking about you blindly supporting a policy that causes more harm than good.
Why?
How is it "blindly" ?

Is it a policy or is it a 'law' ?
Okay, to rephrase my question, why do you knowingly support a law/policy that causes much more harm than it prevents?
[quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]But in the mean time...its illegal.[/p][/quote]Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.[/p][/quote]LOL...You surmise a lot...but the fact is this herb at the moment is illegal..no getting away from that... Mauna Kea is also the tallest mountain on the planet... doesn't mean i want to upset or destroy Everest tourism...[/p][/quote]Im talking about you blindly supporting a policy that causes more harm than good. Why?[/p][/quote]How is it "blindly" ? Is it a policy or is it a 'law' ?[/p][/quote]Okay, to rephrase my question, why do you knowingly support a law/policy that causes much more harm than it prevents? SuperSilverSourDiesel
  • Score: 0

11:08pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

SuperSilverSourDiese
l
wrote:
asbo industries inc wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese


l
wrote:
asbo industries inc wrote:
the conviction of an average dope addict... anytime!!! make that meet you half way!! make that cower in my squat, draw the curtains and light another spliff.
LOL what planet do you live on. Why would i come all way to you? I will meet you Half way, if you decline, who is the coward?
you are a clown of the highest order. coco aspires to your level of clowndom. you have asked me to tell you to face. i have told you anytime but you pay for my time. try reading this post without having to peer through a cloud of cannabis smoke. it may make more sense.
How About not resulting to childish insults? How about not supporting a policy/law which is undoubtedly causing more harm than good? How about being a man instead of a troll? How about realising that yes, instead of alcohol i use cannabis. Do i use it all the time? Nope, not even everyday. But like all humans, i do things to relax. Apart from using Exercise to realise chemicals to relax myself, i smoke cannabis occasionally. So how about not resorting to the 'paranoid' 'cloud of smoke' **** and being a bit grown up about this? No? Still going to troll?
i re-iterate...more than happy to tell you to your cannabot face. name the time... place is southend. 2 hrs of my time + vat (i'm a professional and my insults are vattable)
[quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: the conviction of an average dope addict... anytime!!! make that meet you half way!! make that cower in my squat, draw the curtains and light another spliff.[/p][/quote]LOL what planet do you live on. Why would i come all way to you? I will meet you Half way, if you decline, who is the coward?[/p][/quote]you are a clown of the highest order. coco aspires to your level of clowndom. you have asked me to tell you to face. i have told you anytime but you pay for my time. try reading this post without having to peer through a cloud of cannabis smoke. it may make more sense.[/p][/quote]How About not resulting to childish insults? How about not supporting a policy/law which is undoubtedly causing more harm than good? How about being a man instead of a troll? How about realising that yes, instead of alcohol i use cannabis. Do i use it all the time? Nope, not even everyday. But like all humans, i do things to relax. Apart from using Exercise to realise chemicals to relax myself, i smoke cannabis occasionally. So how about not resorting to the 'paranoid' 'cloud of smoke' **** and being a bit grown up about this? No? Still going to troll?[/p][/quote]i re-iterate...more than happy to tell you to your cannabot face. name the time... place is southend. 2 hrs of my time + vat (i'm a professional and my insults are vattable) asbo industries inc
  • Score: 2

11:08pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Lastlaugh... says...

SuperSilverSourDiese
l
wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese


l
wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese




l
wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
But in the mean time...its illegal.
Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.
LOL...You surmise a lot...but the fact is this herb at the moment is illegal..no getting away from that... Mauna Kea is also the tallest mountain on the planet... doesn't mean i want to upset or destroy Everest tourism...
Im talking about you blindly supporting a policy that causes more harm than good.
Why?
How is it "blindly" ?

Is it a policy or is it a 'law' ?
Okay, to rephrase my question, why do you knowingly support a law/policy that causes much more harm than it prevents?
This is accepting that this law actually does do more harm than good.

Any evidence the 'law' causes more harm than good?
[quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]But in the mean time...its illegal.[/p][/quote]Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.[/p][/quote]LOL...You surmise a lot...but the fact is this herb at the moment is illegal..no getting away from that... Mauna Kea is also the tallest mountain on the planet... doesn't mean i want to upset or destroy Everest tourism...[/p][/quote]Im talking about you blindly supporting a policy that causes more harm than good. Why?[/p][/quote]How is it "blindly" ? Is it a policy or is it a 'law' ?[/p][/quote]Okay, to rephrase my question, why do you knowingly support a law/policy that causes much more harm than it prevents?[/p][/quote]This is accepting that this law actually does do more harm than good. Any evidence the 'law' causes more harm than good? Lastlaugh...
  • Score: 0

11:08pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Alan-_Hobday says...

Lastlaugh... wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
But in the mean time...its illegal.
And your point is????
Just that!
So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here.

You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal.

I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious.

Maybe not..
Any evidence to support your wishful thinking "soon it will happen here" ?

Yes...it is indeed illegal and all the puffing and blowing on here wont make it any less illegal....construct

ive points notwithstanding...
What evidence? A rapidly rising proportion of the British Public (now at 69%) supporting liberalisation of the law.
[quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]But in the mean time...its illegal.[/p][/quote]And your point is????[/p][/quote]Just that![/p][/quote]So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here. You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal. I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious. Maybe not..[/p][/quote]Any evidence to support your wishful thinking "soon it will happen here" ? Yes...it is indeed illegal and all the puffing and blowing on here wont make it any less illegal....construct ive points notwithstanding...[/p][/quote]What evidence? A rapidly rising proportion of the British Public (now at 69%) supporting liberalisation of the law. Alan-_Hobday
  • Score: 0

11:10pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

insults should have read truths
insults should have read truths asbo industries inc
  • Score: 2

11:11pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
But in the mean time...its illegal.
And your point is????
Just that!
So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here.

You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal.

I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious.

Maybe not..
Any evidence to support your wishful thinking "soon it will happen here" ?

Yes...it is indeed illegal and all the puffing and blowing on here wont make it any less illegal....construct


ive points notwithstanding...
What evidence? A rapidly rising proportion of the British Public (now at 69%) supporting liberalisation of the law.
69% of cannabis users...
[quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]But in the mean time...its illegal.[/p][/quote]And your point is????[/p][/quote]Just that![/p][/quote]So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here. You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal. I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious. Maybe not..[/p][/quote]Any evidence to support your wishful thinking "soon it will happen here" ? Yes...it is indeed illegal and all the puffing and blowing on here wont make it any less illegal....construct ive points notwithstanding...[/p][/quote]What evidence? A rapidly rising proportion of the British Public (now at 69%) supporting liberalisation of the law.[/p][/quote]69% of cannabis users... asbo industries inc
  • Score: 0

11:14pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Lastlaugh... says...

Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
But in the mean time...its illegal.
And your point is????
Just that!
So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here.

You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal.

I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious.

Maybe not..
Any evidence to support your wishful thinking "soon it will happen here" ?

Yes...it is indeed illegal and all the puffing and blowing on here wont make it any less illegal....construct


ive points notwithstanding...
What evidence? A rapidly rising proportion of the British Public (now at 69%) supporting liberalisation of the law.
92% of all poll statistics are cr@p

Even if we accept the 62%, how is that evidence "soon it will happen here"
[quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]But in the mean time...its illegal.[/p][/quote]And your point is????[/p][/quote]Just that![/p][/quote]So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here. You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal. I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious. Maybe not..[/p][/quote]Any evidence to support your wishful thinking "soon it will happen here" ? Yes...it is indeed illegal and all the puffing and blowing on here wont make it any less illegal....construct ive points notwithstanding...[/p][/quote]What evidence? A rapidly rising proportion of the British Public (now at 69%) supporting liberalisation of the law.[/p][/quote]92% of all poll statistics are cr@p Even if we accept the 62%, how is that evidence "soon it will happen here" Lastlaugh...
  • Score: 0

11:14pm Thu 15 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

you gotta laugh at the clown loggin into all those different accounts trying to justify his own dirty little habit ...
you gotta laugh at the clown loggin into all those different accounts trying to justify his own dirty little habit ... InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 2

11:19pm Thu 15 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
you gotta laugh at the clown loggin into all those different accounts trying to justify his own dirty little habit ...
dirty - check, little - i prefer small but check, habit - i prefer addiction but check too. it's all here...just scroll up
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: you gotta laugh at the clown loggin into all those different accounts trying to justify his own dirty little habit ...[/p][/quote]dirty - check, little - i prefer small but check, habit - i prefer addiction but check too. it's all here...just scroll up asbo industries inc
  • Score: 0

11:29pm Thu 15 Nov 12

SuperSilverSourDiesel says...

Lastlaugh... wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese

l
wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese



l
wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese





l
wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
But in the mean time...its illegal.
Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.
LOL...You surmise a lot...but the fact is this herb at the moment is illegal..no getting away from that... Mauna Kea is also the tallest mountain on the planet... doesn't mean i want to upset or destroy Everest tourism...
Im talking about you blindly supporting a policy that causes more harm than good.
Why?
How is it "blindly" ?

Is it a policy or is it a 'law' ?
Okay, to rephrase my question, why do you knowingly support a law/policy that causes much more harm than it prevents?
This is accepting that this law actually does do more harm than good.

Any evidence the 'law' causes more harm than good?
Well if you cant see the fact that criminals control the market as a result from prohibition, causing untold harm then whats the point? Why do you think so many places around the world are slowly tearing the walls down of prohibition? Why do you think many economists are trying to show people what a dangerous economic drain prohibition is? Many policemen are against prohibition, against gifting the market to criminals.

“Many people who think of themselves as the beneficiaries of prohibition are really net losers. Parents are much more at risk of losing their children under prohibition than they would be if there was some kind of system where we had some measure of control over illicit drugs.” - Peter Baume Former Australian Minister for Health, Minister for Education & Minister for Aboriginal Affairs
[quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]But in the mean time...its illegal.[/p][/quote]Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.[/p][/quote]LOL...You surmise a lot...but the fact is this herb at the moment is illegal..no getting away from that... Mauna Kea is also the tallest mountain on the planet... doesn't mean i want to upset or destroy Everest tourism...[/p][/quote]Im talking about you blindly supporting a policy that causes more harm than good. Why?[/p][/quote]How is it "blindly" ? Is it a policy or is it a 'law' ?[/p][/quote]Okay, to rephrase my question, why do you knowingly support a law/policy that causes much more harm than it prevents?[/p][/quote]This is accepting that this law actually does do more harm than good. Any evidence the 'law' causes more harm than good?[/p][/quote]Well if you cant see the fact that criminals control the market as a result from prohibition, causing untold harm then whats the point? Why do you think so many places around the world are slowly tearing the walls down of prohibition? Why do you think many economists are trying to show people what a dangerous economic drain prohibition is? Many policemen are against prohibition, against gifting the market to criminals. “Many people who think of themselves as the beneficiaries of prohibition are really net losers. Parents are much more at risk of losing their children under prohibition than they would be if there was some kind of system where we had some measure of control over illicit drugs.” - Peter Baume Former Australian Minister for Health, Minister for Education & Minister for Aboriginal Affairs SuperSilverSourDiesel
  • Score: 0

11:31pm Thu 15 Nov 12

SuperSilverSourDiesel says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
you gotta laugh at the clown loggin into all those different accounts trying to justify his own dirty little habit ...
And you dont drink alcohol, caffeine? Smoke Cigs? Take aspirin? All of which far more dangerous than cannabis? And have the nerve to call using a plant safer than those legal drugs, a dirty habit?

I noticed the troll wanted to replace the word habit for addiction to justify his misguided hatred. The old addiction adage is a little dated and it gets downright annoying. Passion or obsession would be closer to the truth.
Addiction implies physical dependence, which simply does not
apply to cannabis. but applies to alcohol and tobacco, caffeine and pharmaceuticals.
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: you gotta laugh at the clown loggin into all those different accounts trying to justify his own dirty little habit ...[/p][/quote]And you dont drink alcohol, caffeine? Smoke Cigs? Take aspirin? All of which far more dangerous than cannabis? And have the nerve to call using a plant safer than those legal drugs, a dirty habit? I noticed the troll wanted to replace the word habit for addiction to justify his misguided hatred. The old addiction adage is a little dated and it gets downright annoying. Passion or obsession would be closer to the truth. Addiction implies physical dependence, which simply does not apply to cannabis. but applies to alcohol and tobacco, caffeine and pharmaceuticals. SuperSilverSourDiesel
  • Score: 0

11:32pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Alan-_Hobday says...

Lastlaugh... wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
But in the mean time...its illegal.
And your point is????
Just that!
So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here.

You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal.

I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious.

Maybe not..
Any evidence to support your wishful thinking "soon it will happen here" ?

Yes...it is indeed illegal and all the puffing and blowing on here wont make it any less illegal....construct



ive points notwithstanding...
What evidence? A rapidly rising proportion of the British Public (now at 69%) supporting liberalisation of the law.
92% of all poll statistics are cr@p

Even if we accept the 62%, how is that evidence "soon it will happen here"
Well, I still believe that Britain is a democracy, perhaps you don't?
[quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]But in the mean time...its illegal.[/p][/quote]And your point is????[/p][/quote]Just that![/p][/quote]So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here. You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal. I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious. Maybe not..[/p][/quote]Any evidence to support your wishful thinking "soon it will happen here" ? Yes...it is indeed illegal and all the puffing and blowing on here wont make it any less illegal....construct ive points notwithstanding...[/p][/quote]What evidence? A rapidly rising proportion of the British Public (now at 69%) supporting liberalisation of the law.[/p][/quote]92% of all poll statistics are cr@p Even if we accept the 62%, how is that evidence "soon it will happen here"[/p][/quote]Well, I still believe that Britain is a democracy, perhaps you don't? Alan-_Hobday
  • Score: 0

11:35pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Nebs says...

SuperSilverSourDiese
l
wrote:
Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.
What a dreadfully irresponsible statement.

Just say NO!!!!

Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF.

What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.
Thanks for your input. Make yourself a nice cup of tea, and have a lie down. Maybe watch a film. You'll feel so much better. In the meantime, the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.
[quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: Just say no to illegal drugs.[/p][/quote]What a dreadfully irresponsible statement. Just say NO!!!! Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF. What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.[/p][/quote]Thanks for your input. Make yourself a nice cup of tea, and have a lie down. Maybe watch a film. You'll feel so much better. In the meantime, the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs. Nebs
  • Score: 0

11:36pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Lastlaugh... says...

Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
But in the mean time...its illegal.
And your point is????
Just that!
So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here.

You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal.

I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious.

Maybe not..
Any evidence to support your wishful thinking "soon it will happen here" ?

Yes...it is indeed illegal and all the puffing and blowing on here wont make it any less illegal....construct




ive points notwithstanding...
What evidence? A rapidly rising proportion of the British Public (now at 69%) supporting liberalisation of the law.
92% of all poll statistics are cr@p

Even if we accept the 62%, how is that evidence "soon it will happen here"
Well, I still believe that Britain is a democracy, perhaps you don't?
Then if what you say is the case why isn't cannabis legal?
[quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]But in the mean time...its illegal.[/p][/quote]And your point is????[/p][/quote]Just that![/p][/quote]So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here. You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal. I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious. Maybe not..[/p][/quote]Any evidence to support your wishful thinking "soon it will happen here" ? Yes...it is indeed illegal and all the puffing and blowing on here wont make it any less illegal....construct ive points notwithstanding...[/p][/quote]What evidence? A rapidly rising proportion of the British Public (now at 69%) supporting liberalisation of the law.[/p][/quote]92% of all poll statistics are cr@p Even if we accept the 62%, how is that evidence "soon it will happen here"[/p][/quote]Well, I still believe that Britain is a democracy, perhaps you don't?[/p][/quote]Then if what you say is the case why isn't cannabis legal? Lastlaugh...
  • Score: 1

11:39pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Lastlaugh... says...

SuperSilverSourDiese
l
wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese


l
wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese




l
wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese






l
wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
But in the mean time...its illegal.
Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.
LOL...You surmise a lot...but the fact is this herb at the moment is illegal..no getting away from that... Mauna Kea is also the tallest mountain on the planet... doesn't mean i want to upset or destroy Everest tourism...
Im talking about you blindly supporting a policy that causes more harm than good.
Why?
How is it "blindly" ?

Is it a policy or is it a 'law' ?
Okay, to rephrase my question, why do you knowingly support a law/policy that causes much more harm than it prevents?
This is accepting that this law actually does do more harm than good.

Any evidence the 'law' causes more harm than good?
Well if you cant see the fact that criminals control the market as a result from prohibition, causing untold harm then whats the point? Why do you think so many places around the world are slowly tearing the walls down of prohibition? Why do you think many economists are trying to show people what a dangerous economic drain prohibition is? Many policemen are against prohibition, against gifting the market to criminals.

“Many people who think of themselves as the beneficiaries of prohibition are really net losers. Parents are much more at risk of losing their children under prohibition than they would be if there was some kind of system where we had some measure of control over illicit drugs.” - Peter Baume Former Australian Minister for Health, Minister for Education & Minister for Aboriginal Affairs
But that isn't evidence that banning it is more harmful than legalising it...You are talking about other countries and quoting foreign politicians..not relevant.
[quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]But in the mean time...its illegal.[/p][/quote]Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.[/p][/quote]LOL...You surmise a lot...but the fact is this herb at the moment is illegal..no getting away from that... Mauna Kea is also the tallest mountain on the planet... doesn't mean i want to upset or destroy Everest tourism...[/p][/quote]Im talking about you blindly supporting a policy that causes more harm than good. Why?[/p][/quote]How is it "blindly" ? Is it a policy or is it a 'law' ?[/p][/quote]Okay, to rephrase my question, why do you knowingly support a law/policy that causes much more harm than it prevents?[/p][/quote]This is accepting that this law actually does do more harm than good. Any evidence the 'law' causes more harm than good?[/p][/quote]Well if you cant see the fact that criminals control the market as a result from prohibition, causing untold harm then whats the point? Why do you think so many places around the world are slowly tearing the walls down of prohibition? Why do you think many economists are trying to show people what a dangerous economic drain prohibition is? Many policemen are against prohibition, against gifting the market to criminals. “Many people who think of themselves as the beneficiaries of prohibition are really net losers. Parents are much more at risk of losing their children under prohibition than they would be if there was some kind of system where we had some measure of control over illicit drugs.” - Peter Baume Former Australian Minister for Health, Minister for Education & Minister for Aboriginal Affairs[/p][/quote]But that isn't evidence that banning it is more harmful than legalising it...You are talking about other countries and quoting foreign politicians..not relevant. Lastlaugh...
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8:36am Fri 16 Nov 12

Alan-_Hobday says...

Lastlaugh... wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Lastlaugh... wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
But in the mean time...its illegal.
And your point is????
Just that!
So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here.

You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal.

I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious.

Maybe not..
Any evidence to support your wishful thinking "soon it will happen here" ?

Yes...it is indeed illegal and all the puffing and blowing on here wont make it any less illegal....construct





ive points notwithstanding...
What evidence? A rapidly rising proportion of the British Public (now at 69%) supporting liberalisation of the law.
92% of all poll statistics are cr@p

Even if we accept the 62%, how is that evidence "soon it will happen here"
Well, I still believe that Britain is a democracy, perhaps you don't?
Then if what you say is the case why isn't cannabis legal?
It will be.
[quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]But in the mean time...its illegal.[/p][/quote]And your point is????[/p][/quote]Just that![/p][/quote]So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here. You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal. I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious. Maybe not..[/p][/quote]Any evidence to support your wishful thinking "soon it will happen here" ? Yes...it is indeed illegal and all the puffing and blowing on here wont make it any less illegal....construct ive points notwithstanding...[/p][/quote]What evidence? A rapidly rising proportion of the British Public (now at 69%) supporting liberalisation of the law.[/p][/quote]92% of all poll statistics are cr@p Even if we accept the 62%, how is that evidence "soon it will happen here"[/p][/quote]Well, I still believe that Britain is a democracy, perhaps you don't?[/p][/quote]Then if what you say is the case why isn't cannabis legal?[/p][/quote]It will be. Alan-_Hobday
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8:38am Fri 16 Nov 12

Alan-_Hobday says...

Nebs wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese

l
wrote:
Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.
What a dreadfully irresponsible statement.

Just say NO!!!!

Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF.

What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.
Thanks for your input. Make yourself a nice cup of tea, and have a lie down. Maybe watch a film. You'll feel so much better. In the meantime, the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.
Why?
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: Just say no to illegal drugs.[/p][/quote]What a dreadfully irresponsible statement. Just say NO!!!! Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF. What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.[/p][/quote]Thanks for your input. Make yourself a nice cup of tea, and have a lie down. Maybe watch a film. You'll feel so much better. In the meantime, the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.[/p][/quote]Why? Alan-_Hobday
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8:59am Fri 16 Nov 12

Nebs says...

Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Nebs wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese


l
wrote:
Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.
What a dreadfully irresponsible statement.

Just say NO!!!!

Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF.

What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.
Thanks for your input. Make yourself a nice cup of tea, and have a lie down. Maybe watch a film. You'll feel so much better. In the meantime, the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.
Why?
Because the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.
[quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: Just say no to illegal drugs.[/p][/quote]What a dreadfully irresponsible statement. Just say NO!!!! Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF. What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.[/p][/quote]Thanks for your input. Make yourself a nice cup of tea, and have a lie down. Maybe watch a film. You'll feel so much better. In the meantime, the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.[/p][/quote]Why?[/p][/quote]Because the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs. Nebs
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9:09am Fri 16 Nov 12

Alan-_Hobday says...

Nebs wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Nebs wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese



l
wrote:
Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.
What a dreadfully irresponsible statement.

Just say NO!!!!

Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF.

What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.
Thanks for your input. Make yourself a nice cup of tea, and have a lie down. Maybe watch a film. You'll feel so much better. In the meantime, the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.
Why?
Because the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.
Why is it responsible?
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: Just say no to illegal drugs.[/p][/quote]What a dreadfully irresponsible statement. Just say NO!!!! Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF. What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.[/p][/quote]Thanks for your input. Make yourself a nice cup of tea, and have a lie down. Maybe watch a film. You'll feel so much better. In the meantime, the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.[/p][/quote]Why?[/p][/quote]Because the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.[/p][/quote]Why is it responsible? Alan-_Hobday
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11:24am Fri 16 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

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http://tinyurl.com/2 3mpbe asbo industries inc
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12:20pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

John T Pharro wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.
And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.
And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?
Get your facts right! Cannabis is now either legal or decriminalised or tolerated in dozens of countries. Most of these countries allow possession of small amounts, some levy small fines for possession of small amounts but the fines are not recorded as criminal offences (hence decriminalised), some still retain anti cannabis laws but do not enforce them, such as India where it is still technically illegal (not legal as you claim). You need to read the article again, properly. The bottom line is that the trend to lessen penalties and decriminalise is clear. Twenty years ago hardly any countries allowed legal possession, now many do including some US states. Legalisation is inevitable, get used to it.
.
John Pharro, almost anyone who was young in the late 60s / early 70s came into contact with cannabis and anyone who denies this is either a liar or they led an extremely sheltered life or they had an extremely poor social life and they certainly weren't in touch with the sixties zeitgeist. Annual surveys since then have shown that between a third and two thirds of all young people in every succeeding generation have used cannabis which means that around half of all people in their early sixties or younger have used cannabis and we all know that most of the tabloid scare stories are absolute nonsense. Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.[/p][/quote]And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.[/p][/quote]And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right! Cannabis is now either legal or decriminalised or tolerated in dozens of countries. Most of these countries allow possession of small amounts, some levy small fines for possession of small amounts but the fines are not recorded as criminal offences (hence decriminalised), some still retain anti cannabis laws but do not enforce them, such as India where it is still technically illegal (not legal as you claim). You need to read the article again, properly. The bottom line is that the trend to lessen penalties and decriminalise is clear. Twenty years ago hardly any countries allowed legal possession, now many do including some US states. Legalisation is inevitable, get used to it. . John Pharro, almost anyone who was young in the late 60s / early 70s came into contact with cannabis and anyone who denies this is either a liar or they led an extremely sheltered life or they had an extremely poor social life and they certainly weren't in touch with the sixties zeitgeist. Annual surveys since then have shown that between a third and two thirds of all young people in every succeeding generation have used cannabis which means that around half of all people in their early sixties or younger have used cannabis and we all know that most of the tabloid scare stories are absolute nonsense. Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance? Aint it just the truth
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12:27pm Fri 16 Nov 12

The Asbo Redemption says...

Look here, I realise that I have let my inability to read a scientific study (mean, mode, median etc.) cloud my thinking.
I just happened on this response on a clear thinking and overwhelmingly good natured online discussion group and thought I would share this with you.

https://www.quora.co
m/Law-Enforcement-an
d-the-Police/What-do
-police-officers-thi
nk-about-legalizing-
drugs
Look here, I realise that I have let my inability to read a scientific study (mean, mode, median etc.) cloud my thinking. I just happened on this response on a clear thinking and overwhelmingly good natured online discussion group and thought I would share this with you. https://www.quora.co m/Law-Enforcement-an d-the-Police/What-do -police-officers-thi nk-about-legalizing- drugs The Asbo Redemption
  • Score: 0

1:12pm Fri 16 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

The Asbo Redemption wrote:
Look here, I realise that I have let my inability to read a scientific study (mean, mode, median etc.) cloud my thinking.
I just happened on this response on a clear thinking and overwhelmingly good natured online discussion group and thought I would share this with you.

https://www.quora.co

m/Law-Enforcement-an

d-the-Police/What-do

-police-officers-thi

nk-about-legalizing-

drugs
sorry don't do facebook. is it any surprise police officers want an easier life? many in the Met are cannabis users anyway...so a bit more self justification which i take with a grain of salt. how do you square that with enforcement of the law? don't ask them which way their moral compass points
[quote][p][bold]The Asbo Redemption[/bold] wrote: Look here, I realise that I have let my inability to read a scientific study (mean, mode, median etc.) cloud my thinking. I just happened on this response on a clear thinking and overwhelmingly good natured online discussion group and thought I would share this with you. https://www.quora.co m/Law-Enforcement-an d-the-Police/What-do -police-officers-thi nk-about-legalizing- drugs[/p][/quote]sorry don't do facebook. is it any surprise police officers want an easier life? many in the Met are cannabis users anyway...so a bit more self justification which i take with a grain of salt. how do you square that with enforcement of the law? don't ask them which way their moral compass points asbo industries inc
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2:16pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

Any Police officer would tell you that cannabis users are not a problem to themselves, to the Police or to anyone else, unlike boozers, so they'd rather not waste their time having to enforce an unenforcable and unjustifiable law. True.
Any Police officer would tell you that cannabis users are not a problem to themselves, to the Police or to anyone else, unlike boozers, so they'd rather not waste their time having to enforce an unenforcable and unjustifiable law. True. Aint it just the truth
  • Score: -1

3:23pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Nebs says...

Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Nebs wrote:
Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Nebs wrote:
SuperSilverSourDiese




l
wrote:
Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.
What a dreadfully irresponsible statement.

Just say NO!!!!

Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF.

What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.
Thanks for your input. Make yourself a nice cup of tea, and have a lie down. Maybe watch a film. You'll feel so much better. In the meantime, the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.
Why?
Because the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.
Why is it responsible?
Because the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.
[quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan-_Hobday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperSilverSourDiese l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: Just say no to illegal drugs.[/p][/quote]What a dreadfully irresponsible statement. Just say NO!!!! Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF. What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.[/p][/quote]Thanks for your input. Make yourself a nice cup of tea, and have a lie down. Maybe watch a film. You'll feel so much better. In the meantime, the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.[/p][/quote]Why?[/p][/quote]Because the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.[/p][/quote]Why is it responsible?[/p][/quote]Because the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs. Nebs
  • Score: 1

4:52pm Fri 16 Nov 12

John T Pharro says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.
And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.
And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?
Get your facts right! Cannabis is now either legal or decriminalised or tolerated in dozens of countries. Most of these countries allow possession of small amounts, some levy small fines for possession of small amounts but the fines are not recorded as criminal offences (hence decriminalised), some still retain anti cannabis laws but do not enforce them, such as India where it is still technically illegal (not legal as you claim). You need to read the article again, properly. The bottom line is that the trend to lessen penalties and decriminalise is clear. Twenty years ago hardly any countries allowed legal possession, now many do including some US states. Legalisation is inevitable, get used to it.
.
John Pharro, almost anyone who was young in the late 60s / early 70s came into contact with cannabis and anyone who denies this is either a liar or they led an extremely sheltered life or they had an extremely poor social life and they certainly weren't in touch with the sixties zeitgeist. Annual surveys since then have shown that between a third and two thirds of all young people in every succeeding generation have used cannabis which means that around half of all people in their early sixties or younger have used cannabis and we all know that most of the tabloid scare stories are absolute nonsense. Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?
Well you have answered your own case. Just because it is decriminalised does not mean it is legal. The NHS says it is "pretty harmless substance" that is their official opinion is it?
Actually I had to smile a bit as being a teenager in the 60's and living in Twickenham Eel Pie Island and all that I must have had a sheltered life, because despite visiting them I can assure you the prevalence you think was there was not. Of course it could be that those that looked for it found it.
Yes, I still think cannabis is bad because you cannot be sure just how it will affect each person. Rather like alcohol some get affected more than others. Next time you see a parent devastated by the affect of cannabis to their child try telling them it is "pretty harmless.
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.[/p][/quote]And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.[/p][/quote]And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right! Cannabis is now either legal or decriminalised or tolerated in dozens of countries. Most of these countries allow possession of small amounts, some levy small fines for possession of small amounts but the fines are not recorded as criminal offences (hence decriminalised), some still retain anti cannabis laws but do not enforce them, such as India where it is still technically illegal (not legal as you claim). You need to read the article again, properly. The bottom line is that the trend to lessen penalties and decriminalise is clear. Twenty years ago hardly any countries allowed legal possession, now many do including some US states. Legalisation is inevitable, get used to it. . John Pharro, almost anyone who was young in the late 60s / early 70s came into contact with cannabis and anyone who denies this is either a liar or they led an extremely sheltered life or they had an extremely poor social life and they certainly weren't in touch with the sixties zeitgeist. Annual surveys since then have shown that between a third and two thirds of all young people in every succeeding generation have used cannabis which means that around half of all people in their early sixties or younger have used cannabis and we all know that most of the tabloid scare stories are absolute nonsense. Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?[/p][/quote]Well you have answered your own case. Just because it is decriminalised does not mean it is legal. The NHS says it is "pretty harmless substance" that is their official opinion is it? Actually I had to smile a bit as being a teenager in the 60's and living in Twickenham Eel Pie Island and all that I must have had a sheltered life, because despite visiting them I can assure you the prevalence you think was there was not. Of course it could be that those that looked for it found it. Yes, I still think cannabis is bad because you cannot be sure just how it will affect each person. Rather like alcohol some get affected more than others. Next time you see a parent devastated by the affect of cannabis to their child try telling them it is "pretty harmless. John T Pharro
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5:02pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

The sixties/seventies generation would disagree with you as we rejected the legal drug alcohol in favour of cannabis as it is less dangerous, less debilitating, doesn't turn people into slobbering imbeciles and it can't kill you. It's just plain common sense unless you have been brainwashed by the tabloid lies.
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Just remember that tea, coffee, homosexuality and votes for women were once illegal. As one of the ancient Greeks once said we have a duty not to obey unjust laws and the current laws on cannabis ARE unjust.
The sixties/seventies generation would disagree with you as we rejected the legal drug alcohol in favour of cannabis as it is less dangerous, less debilitating, doesn't turn people into slobbering imbeciles and it can't kill you. It's just plain common sense unless you have been brainwashed by the tabloid lies. . Just remember that tea, coffee, homosexuality and votes for women were once illegal. As one of the ancient Greeks once said we have a duty not to obey unjust laws and the current laws on cannabis ARE unjust. Aint it just the truth
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5:17pm Fri 16 Nov 12

John T Pharro says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
The sixties/seventies generation would disagree with you as we rejected the legal drug alcohol in favour of cannabis as it is less dangerous, less debilitating, doesn't turn people into slobbering imbeciles and it can't kill you. It's just plain common sense unless you have been brainwashed by the tabloid lies.
.
Just remember that tea, coffee, homosexuality and votes for women were once illegal. As one of the ancient Greeks once said we have a duty not to obey unjust laws and the current laws on cannabis ARE unjust.
So those parents who sometimes appear on TV because their child has been devastated by cannabis are not real? You know it never ceases to amaze me how people avoid the direct question. Then politicians do it all the time.
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: The sixties/seventies generation would disagree with you as we rejected the legal drug alcohol in favour of cannabis as it is less dangerous, less debilitating, doesn't turn people into slobbering imbeciles and it can't kill you. It's just plain common sense unless you have been brainwashed by the tabloid lies. . Just remember that tea, coffee, homosexuality and votes for women were once illegal. As one of the ancient Greeks once said we have a duty not to obey unjust laws and the current laws on cannabis ARE unjust.[/p][/quote]So those parents who sometimes appear on TV because their child has been devastated by cannabis are not real? You know it never ceases to amaze me how people avoid the direct question. Then politicians do it all the time. John T Pharro
  • Score: 1

6:04pm Fri 16 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

More than 30,000 cannabis smokers could die every year, doctors warn today.

Medical experts blame the Home Secretary for creating confusion about the risks posed by the drug - leading young people wrongly to believe it is harmless.

Professor John Henry, a leading authority on the drug, said the change - due to take place this summer - had undermined doctors' efforts to highlight the risks.

He said: "Cannabis is as dangerous as cigarette smoking - in fact, it may be even worse - and downgrading its legal status has simply confused people.

"We have a clear public message about cigarette smoking. Every year, the number of smokers gets smaller and the message on packets about the dangers gets bigger.

"At present, there is no battle against cannabis and no clear public health message."

In today's issue of the British Medical Journal, Prof Henry and other doctors from Imperial College, and St Mary's Hospital, both in London, say cannabis could be a major contributor to UK deaths.

Researchers calculate that if 120,000 deaths are caused among 13million smokers, the corresponding figure among 3.2million cannabis smokers would be 30,000.

The drug can cause cancer, lung disease and abnormalities associated with serious mental illness.

Users are up to six times more likely to develop schizophrenia.

The British Lung Foundation says smoking three joints a day can cause the same damage to the airways as a pack of 20 cigarettes.

Prof Henry added: "Even if the number of deaths turned out to be only a fraction of the 30,000 we believe possible, cannabis smoking would still be described as a major health hazard.

"If we add in the likely mental health burden to that of medical illnesses and premature death, the potential effects of cannabis cannot be ignored."

Dr William Oldfield, from St Mary's Hospital and one of the authors of the article, said: "Cannabis and nicotine cigarettes have a different mode of inhalation. The puff taken by cannabis smokers is two-thirds larger, they inhale a third more and hold down the smoke four times longer.

"All these factors could contribute to illnesses of the heart and respiratory system, particularly as the chemicals in cannabis smoke are retained in the body to a much higher degree."

The level of active ingredient in cannabis, tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) has increased from around 0.5 per cent 20 years ago to almost five per cent today. THC affects the heart and blood vessels and many sudden deaths have been attributed to cannabis smoking.
More than 30,000 cannabis smokers could die every year, doctors warn today. Medical experts blame the Home Secretary for creating confusion about the risks posed by the drug - leading young people wrongly to believe it is harmless. Professor John Henry, a leading authority on the drug, said the change - due to take place this summer - had undermined doctors' efforts to highlight the risks. He said: "Cannabis is as dangerous as cigarette smoking - in fact, it may be even worse - and downgrading its legal status has simply confused people. "We have a clear public message about cigarette smoking. Every year, the number of smokers gets smaller and the message on packets about the dangers gets bigger. "At present, there is no battle against cannabis and no clear public health message." In today's issue of the British Medical Journal, Prof Henry and other doctors from Imperial College, and St Mary's Hospital, both in London, say cannabis could be a major contributor to UK deaths. Researchers calculate that if 120,000 deaths are caused among 13million smokers, the corresponding figure among 3.2million cannabis smokers would be 30,000. The drug can cause cancer, lung disease and abnormalities associated with serious mental illness. Users are up to six times more likely to develop schizophrenia. The British Lung Foundation says smoking three joints a day can cause the same damage to the airways as a pack of 20 cigarettes. Prof Henry added: "Even if the number of deaths turned out to be only a fraction of the 30,000 we believe possible, cannabis smoking would still be described as a major health hazard. "If we add in the likely mental health burden to that of medical illnesses and premature death, the potential effects of cannabis cannot be ignored." Dr William Oldfield, from St Mary's Hospital and one of the authors of the article, said: "Cannabis and nicotine cigarettes have a different mode of inhalation. The puff taken by cannabis smokers is two-thirds larger, they inhale a third more and hold down the smoke four times longer. "All these factors could contribute to illnesses of the heart and respiratory system, particularly as the chemicals in cannabis smoke are retained in the body to a much higher degree." The level of active ingredient in cannabis, tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) has increased from around 0.5 per cent 20 years ago to almost five per cent today. THC affects the heart and blood vessels and many sudden deaths have been attributed to cannabis smoking. InTheKnowOk
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6:07pm Fri 16 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

Just Googled the above ... It's no wonder Pot Head, aka all the above posts except 4 hates the Daily Mail LOL
Just Googled the above ... It's no wonder Pot Head, aka all the above posts except 4 hates the Daily Mail LOL InTheKnowOk
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8:32pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
The sixties/seventies generation would disagree with you as we rejected the legal drug alcohol in favour of cannabis as it is less dangerous, less debilitating, doesn't turn people into slobbering imbeciles and it can't kill you. It's just plain common sense unless you have been brainwashed by the tabloid lies. . Just remember that tea, coffee, homosexuality and votes for women were once illegal. As one of the ancient Greeks once said we have a duty not to obey unjust laws and the current laws on cannabis ARE unjust.
What absolute total nonsense. Almost everyone I know has been smoking since the late sixties and we are all doing a LOT better than the odd few boozers we know, all of whom are fat, blubbery, bloated and red faced with loads of health problems? What we have found recently is that a small number of people have a faulty gene that makes them more likely to have problems with cannabis, just like some people have faulty genes that make them susceptible to problems with bee stings, peanut butter etc. Personally I don't know anyone who has problems with cannabis, bee stings or peanut butter but perhaps, to be on the safe side we ought to ban bees and peanuts too?
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from the Royal College of Psychiatrists
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http://www.rcpsych.a
c.uk/mentalhealthinf
o/problems/alcoholan
ddrugs/cannabis.aspx

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“The main risk to physical health from cannabis is probably from the tobacco that it is often smoked with“.
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Mark those words …The MAIN risk is from small amounts of the legal drug, the tobacco. Or not as the case may be - never heard of pipes, cakes, bongs etc?
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“Recent research in Denmark suggests that (cannabis induced psychosis) is a short-lived psychotic disorder that seems to be brought on by cannabis use but which subsides fairly quickly once the individual has stopped using it. It's quite unusual though – in the whole of Denmark they found only around 100 new cases per year“.
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From the Mental Healthcare website produced by the Institute of Psychiatry, Kings College London and South London & Maudsley NHS Trust.
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http://www.mentalhea
lthcare.org.uk/canna
bis
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"The vast majority of cannabis users do not become unwell, just as the majority of people who drink alcohol in moderation never come to harm" (note the specific words they use).
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Lonsdale NHS Medical Centre
Drug Information
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http://www.lonsdalem
edicalcentre.nhs.uk/
usefulinfo/content.a
sp?id=40
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“There is no conclusive evidence that moderate, long-term use of cannabis causes lasting damage to physical or mental health“.
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“There is no physical dependence associated with cannabis use. Regular users who stop smoking do not suffer withdrawal symptoms in the same way as with drugs like heroin“.
.
Put that in your pipe and toke it!
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: The sixties/seventies generation would disagree with you as we rejected the legal drug alcohol in favour of cannabis as it is less dangerous, less debilitating, doesn't turn people into slobbering imbeciles and it can't kill you. It's just plain common sense unless you have been brainwashed by the tabloid lies. . Just remember that tea, coffee, homosexuality and votes for women were once illegal. As one of the ancient Greeks once said we have a duty not to obey unjust laws and the current laws on cannabis ARE unjust.[/p][/quote]What absolute total nonsense. Almost everyone I know has been smoking since the late sixties and we are all doing a LOT better than the odd few boozers we know, all of whom are fat, blubbery, bloated and red faced with loads of health problems? What we have found recently is that a small number of people have a faulty gene that makes them more likely to have problems with cannabis, just like some people have faulty genes that make them susceptible to problems with bee stings, peanut butter etc. Personally I don't know anyone who has problems with cannabis, bee stings or peanut butter but perhaps, to be on the safe side we ought to ban bees and peanuts too? . from the Royal College of Psychiatrists . http://www.rcpsych.a c.uk/mentalhealthinf o/problems/alcoholan ddrugs/cannabis.aspx . “The main risk to physical health from cannabis is probably from the tobacco that it is often smoked with“. . Mark those words …The MAIN risk is from small amounts of the legal drug, the tobacco. Or not as the case may be - never heard of pipes, cakes, bongs etc? . “Recent research in Denmark suggests that (cannabis induced psychosis) is a short-lived psychotic disorder that seems to be brought on by cannabis use but which subsides fairly quickly once the individual has stopped using it. It's quite unusual though – in the whole of Denmark they found only around 100 new cases per year“. . From the Mental Healthcare website produced by the Institute of Psychiatry, Kings College London and South London & Maudsley NHS Trust. . http://www.mentalhea lthcare.org.uk/canna bis . "The vast majority of cannabis users do not become unwell, just as the majority of people who drink alcohol in moderation never come to harm" (note the specific words they use). . Lonsdale NHS Medical Centre Drug Information . http://www.lonsdalem edicalcentre.nhs.uk/ usefulinfo/content.a sp?id=40 . “There is no conclusive evidence that moderate, long-term use of cannabis causes lasting damage to physical or mental health“. . “There is no physical dependence associated with cannabis use. Regular users who stop smoking do not suffer withdrawal symptoms in the same way as with drugs like heroin“. . Put that in your pipe and toke it! Aint it just the truth
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8:42pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

John T Pharro wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.
And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.
And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?
Get your facts right! Cannabis is now either legal or decriminalised or tolerated in dozens of countries. Most of these countries allow possession of small amounts, some levy small fines for possession of small amounts but the fines are not recorded as criminal offences (hence decriminalised), some still retain anti cannabis laws but do not enforce them, such as India where it is still technically illegal (not legal as you claim). You need to read the article again, properly. The bottom line is that the trend to lessen penalties and decriminalise is clear. Twenty years ago hardly any countries allowed legal possession, now many do including some US states. Legalisation is inevitable, get used to it. . John Pharro, almost anyone who was young in the late 60s / early 70s came into contact with cannabis and anyone who denies this is either a liar or they led an extremely sheltered life or they had an extremely poor social life and they certainly weren't in touch with the sixties zeitgeist. Annual surveys since then have shown that between a third and two thirds of all young people in every succeeding generation have used cannabis which means that around half of all people in their early sixties or younger have used cannabis and we all know that most of the tabloid scare stories are absolute nonsense. Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?
Well you have answered your own case. Just because it is decriminalised does not mean it is legal. The NHS says it is "pretty harmless substance" that is their official opinion is it? Actually I had to smile a bit as being a teenager in the 60's and living in Twickenham Eel Pie Island and all that I must have had a sheltered life, because despite visiting them I can assure you the prevalence you think was there was not. Of course it could be that those that looked for it found it. Yes, I still think cannabis is bad because you cannot be sure just how it will affect each person. Rather like alcohol some get affected more than others. Next time you see a parent devastated by the affect of cannabis to their child try telling them it is "pretty harmless.
Oops quoted the wrong comment! (no not toking or drinking or anything else)
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Sorry matey but you are too old to have seen it (I do know who you are). Cannabis didn't become common until the summer of 1969, if not early 1970, and it was mostly restricted to people 16 to 20 who nearly ALL toked. You were too old!
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Almost everyone I know has been smoking since the late sixties and we are all doing a LOT better than the odd few boozers we know, all of whom are fat, blubbery, bloated and red faced with loads of health problems? What we have found recently is that a small number of people have a faulty gene that makes them more likely to have problems with cannabis, just like some people have faulty genes that make them susceptible to problems with bee stings, peanut butter etc. Personally I don't know anyone who has problems with cannabis, bee stings or peanut butter but perhaps, to be on the safe side we ought to ban bees and peanuts too?
.
from the Royal College of Psychiatrists
.
http://www.rcpsych.a

c.uk/mentalhealthinf

o/problems/alcoholan

ddrugs/cannabis.aspx

.
“Recent research in Denmark suggests that (cannabis induced psychosis) is a short-lived psychotic disorder that seems to be brought on by cannabis use but which subsides fairly quickly once the individual has stopped using it. It's quite unusual though – in the whole of Denmark they found only around 100 new cases per year“.
.
From the Mental Healthcare website produced by the Institute of Psychiatry, Kings College London and South London & Maudsley NHS Trust.
.
http://www.mentalhea

lthcare.org.uk/canna

bis
.
"The vast majority of cannabis users do not become unwell, just as the majority of people who drink alcohol in moderation never come to harm" (note the specific words they use).
.
Lonsdale NHS Medical Centre
Drug Information
.
http://www.lonsdalem

edicalcentre.nhs.uk/

usefulinfo/content.a

sp?id=40
.
“There is no conclusive evidence that moderate, long-term use of cannabis causes lasting damage to physical or mental health“.
.
“There is no physical dependence associated with cannabis use. Regular users who stop smoking do not suffer withdrawal symptoms in the same way as with drugs like heroin“.
.
Put that in your pipe and toke it!”
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.[/p][/quote]And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.[/p][/quote]And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right! Cannabis is now either legal or decriminalised or tolerated in dozens of countries. Most of these countries allow possession of small amounts, some levy small fines for possession of small amounts but the fines are not recorded as criminal offences (hence decriminalised), some still retain anti cannabis laws but do not enforce them, such as India where it is still technically illegal (not legal as you claim). You need to read the article again, properly. The bottom line is that the trend to lessen penalties and decriminalise is clear. Twenty years ago hardly any countries allowed legal possession, now many do including some US states. Legalisation is inevitable, get used to it. . John Pharro, almost anyone who was young in the late 60s / early 70s came into contact with cannabis and anyone who denies this is either a liar or they led an extremely sheltered life or they had an extremely poor social life and they certainly weren't in touch with the sixties zeitgeist. Annual surveys since then have shown that between a third and two thirds of all young people in every succeeding generation have used cannabis which means that around half of all people in their early sixties or younger have used cannabis and we all know that most of the tabloid scare stories are absolute nonsense. Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?[/p][/quote]Well you have answered your own case. Just because it is decriminalised does not mean it is legal. The NHS says it is "pretty harmless substance" that is their official opinion is it? Actually I had to smile a bit as being a teenager in the 60's and living in Twickenham Eel Pie Island and all that I must have had a sheltered life, because despite visiting them I can assure you the prevalence you think was there was not. Of course it could be that those that looked for it found it. Yes, I still think cannabis is bad because you cannot be sure just how it will affect each person. Rather like alcohol some get affected more than others. Next time you see a parent devastated by the affect of cannabis to their child try telling them it is "pretty harmless.[/p][/quote]Oops quoted the wrong comment! (no not toking or drinking or anything else) . Sorry matey but you are too old to have seen it (I do know who you are). Cannabis didn't become common until the summer of 1969, if not early 1970, and it was mostly restricted to people 16 to 20 who nearly ALL toked. You were too old! . Almost everyone I know has been smoking since the late sixties and we are all doing a LOT better than the odd few boozers we know, all of whom are fat, blubbery, bloated and red faced with loads of health problems? What we have found recently is that a small number of people have a faulty gene that makes them more likely to have problems with cannabis, just like some people have faulty genes that make them susceptible to problems with bee stings, peanut butter etc. Personally I don't know anyone who has problems with cannabis, bee stings or peanut butter but perhaps, to be on the safe side we ought to ban bees and peanuts too? . from the Royal College of Psychiatrists . http://www.rcpsych.a c.uk/mentalhealthinf o/problems/alcoholan ddrugs/cannabis.aspx . “Recent research in Denmark suggests that (cannabis induced psychosis) is a short-lived psychotic disorder that seems to be brought on by cannabis use but which subsides fairly quickly once the individual has stopped using it. It's quite unusual though – in the whole of Denmark they found only around 100 new cases per year“. . From the Mental Healthcare website produced by the Institute of Psychiatry, Kings College London and South London & Maudsley NHS Trust. . http://www.mentalhea lthcare.org.uk/canna bis . "The vast majority of cannabis users do not become unwell, just as the majority of people who drink alcohol in moderation never come to harm" (note the specific words they use). . Lonsdale NHS Medical Centre Drug Information . http://www.lonsdalem edicalcentre.nhs.uk/ usefulinfo/content.a sp?id=40 . “There is no conclusive evidence that moderate, long-term use of cannabis causes lasting damage to physical or mental health“. . “There is no physical dependence associated with cannabis use. Regular users who stop smoking do not suffer withdrawal symptoms in the same way as with drugs like heroin“. . Put that in your pipe and toke it!” Aint it just the truth
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10:12pm Fri 16 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

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http://tinyurl.com/d yectv9 asbo industries inc
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10:16pm Fri 16 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

"Almost everyone I know has been smoking since the late sixties"
we not only have the shoebury clown in our midst...now we have the hadleigh clown. you need to give the old iq shrinker a rest - your posts are becoming less credible by the second.
"Almost everyone I know has been smoking since the late sixties" we not only have the shoebury clown in our midst...now we have the hadleigh clown. you need to give the old iq shrinker a rest - your posts are becoming less credible by the second. asbo industries inc
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10:21pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

Colorado and Washington today ... ho ho!
Colorado and Washington today ... ho ho! Aint it just the truth
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11:00pm Fri 16 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

where are the bots...in the pub getting smashed sans doute? cannabis use kills ambition...the bots have got all the staying power of a phart in a hurricane
where are the bots...in the pub getting smashed sans doute? cannabis use kills ambition...the bots have got all the staying power of a phart in a hurricane asbo industries inc
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10:01am Sat 17 Nov 12

John T Pharro says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.
And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.
And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?
Get your facts right! Cannabis is now either legal or decriminalised or tolerated in dozens of countries. Most of these countries allow possession of small amounts, some levy small fines for possession of small amounts but the fines are not recorded as criminal offences (hence decriminalised), some still retain anti cannabis laws but do not enforce them, such as India where it is still technically illegal (not legal as you claim). You need to read the article again, properly. The bottom line is that the trend to lessen penalties and decriminalise is clear. Twenty years ago hardly any countries allowed legal possession, now many do including some US states. Legalisation is inevitable, get used to it. . John Pharro, almost anyone who was young in the late 60s / early 70s came into contact with cannabis and anyone who denies this is either a liar or they led an extremely sheltered life or they had an extremely poor social life and they certainly weren't in touch with the sixties zeitgeist. Annual surveys since then have shown that between a third and two thirds of all young people in every succeeding generation have used cannabis which means that around half of all people in their early sixties or younger have used cannabis and we all know that most of the tabloid scare stories are absolute nonsense. Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?
Well you have answered your own case. Just because it is decriminalised does not mean it is legal. The NHS says it is "pretty harmless substance" that is their official opinion is it? Actually I had to smile a bit as being a teenager in the 60's and living in Twickenham Eel Pie Island and all that I must have had a sheltered life, because despite visiting them I can assure you the prevalence you think was there was not. Of course it could be that those that looked for it found it. Yes, I still think cannabis is bad because you cannot be sure just how it will affect each person. Rather like alcohol some get affected more than others. Next time you see a parent devastated by the affect of cannabis to their child try telling them it is "pretty harmless.
Oops quoted the wrong comment! (no not toking or drinking or anything else)
.
Sorry matey but you are too old to have seen it (I do know who you are). Cannabis didn't become common until the summer of 1969, if not early 1970, and it was mostly restricted to people 16 to 20 who nearly ALL toked. You were too old!
.
Almost everyone I know has been smoking since the late sixties and we are all doing a LOT better than the odd few boozers we know, all of whom are fat, blubbery, bloated and red faced with loads of health problems? What we have found recently is that a small number of people have a faulty gene that makes them more likely to have problems with cannabis, just like some people have faulty genes that make them susceptible to problems with bee stings, peanut butter etc. Personally I don't know anyone who has problems with cannabis, bee stings or peanut butter but perhaps, to be on the safe side we ought to ban bees and peanuts too?
.
from the Royal College of Psychiatrists
.
http://www.rcpsych.a


c.uk/mentalhealthinf


o/problems/alcoholan


ddrugs/cannabis.aspx


.
“Recent research in Denmark suggests that (cannabis induced psychosis) is a short-lived psychotic disorder that seems to be brought on by cannabis use but which subsides fairly quickly once the individual has stopped using it. It's quite unusual though – in the whole of Denmark they found only around 100 new cases per year“.
.
From the Mental Healthcare website produced by the Institute of Psychiatry, Kings College London and South London & Maudsley NHS Trust.
.
http://www.mentalhea


lthcare.org.uk/canna


bis
.
"The vast majority of cannabis users do not become unwell, just as the majority of people who drink alcohol in moderation never come to harm" (note the specific words they use).
.
Lonsdale NHS Medical Centre
Drug Information
.
http://www.lonsdalem


edicalcentre.nhs.uk/


usefulinfo/content.a


sp?id=40
.
“There is no conclusive evidence that moderate, long-term use of cannabis causes lasting damage to physical or mental health“.
.
“There is no physical dependence associated with cannabis use. Regular users who stop smoking do not suffer withdrawal symptoms in the same way as with drugs like heroin“.
.
Put that in your pipe and toke it!”
You still haven't answered the question about devastated parents of a child that appear on TV from time to time citing cannabis as the cause of death following an upward spiral to stronger drugs have you? Cannot see the point of saying you know who I am as I know who you are.
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.[/p][/quote]And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.[/p][/quote]And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right! Cannabis is now either legal or decriminalised or tolerated in dozens of countries. Most of these countries allow possession of small amounts, some levy small fines for possession of small amounts but the fines are not recorded as criminal offences (hence decriminalised), some still retain anti cannabis laws but do not enforce them, such as India where it is still technically illegal (not legal as you claim). You need to read the article again, properly. The bottom line is that the trend to lessen penalties and decriminalise is clear. Twenty years ago hardly any countries allowed legal possession, now many do including some US states. Legalisation is inevitable, get used to it. . John Pharro, almost anyone who was young in the late 60s / early 70s came into contact with cannabis and anyone who denies this is either a liar or they led an extremely sheltered life or they had an extremely poor social life and they certainly weren't in touch with the sixties zeitgeist. Annual surveys since then have shown that between a third and two thirds of all young people in every succeeding generation have used cannabis which means that around half of all people in their early sixties or younger have used cannabis and we all know that most of the tabloid scare stories are absolute nonsense. Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?[/p][/quote]Well you have answered your own case. Just because it is decriminalised does not mean it is legal. The NHS says it is "pretty harmless substance" that is their official opinion is it? Actually I had to smile a bit as being a teenager in the 60's and living in Twickenham Eel Pie Island and all that I must have had a sheltered life, because despite visiting them I can assure you the prevalence you think was there was not. Of course it could be that those that looked for it found it. Yes, I still think cannabis is bad because you cannot be sure just how it will affect each person. Rather like alcohol some get affected more than others. Next time you see a parent devastated by the affect of cannabis to their child try telling them it is "pretty harmless.[/p][/quote]Oops quoted the wrong comment! (no not toking or drinking or anything else) . Sorry matey but you are too old to have seen it (I do know who you are). Cannabis didn't become common until the summer of 1969, if not early 1970, and it was mostly restricted to people 16 to 20 who nearly ALL toked. You were too old! . Almost everyone I know has been smoking since the late sixties and we are all doing a LOT better than the odd few boozers we know, all of whom are fat, blubbery, bloated and red faced with loads of health problems? What we have found recently is that a small number of people have a faulty gene that makes them more likely to have problems with cannabis, just like some people have faulty genes that make them susceptible to problems with bee stings, peanut butter etc. Personally I don't know anyone who has problems with cannabis, bee stings or peanut butter but perhaps, to be on the safe side we ought to ban bees and peanuts too? . from the Royal College of Psychiatrists . http://www.rcpsych.a c.uk/mentalhealthinf o/problems/alcoholan ddrugs/cannabis.aspx . “Recent research in Denmark suggests that (cannabis induced psychosis) is a short-lived psychotic disorder that seems to be brought on by cannabis use but which subsides fairly quickly once the individual has stopped using it. It's quite unusual though – in the whole of Denmark they found only around 100 new cases per year“. . From the Mental Healthcare website produced by the Institute of Psychiatry, Kings College London and South London & Maudsley NHS Trust. . http://www.mentalhea lthcare.org.uk/canna bis . "The vast majority of cannabis users do not become unwell, just as the majority of people who drink alcohol in moderation never come to harm" (note the specific words they use). . Lonsdale NHS Medical Centre Drug Information . http://www.lonsdalem edicalcentre.nhs.uk/ usefulinfo/content.a sp?id=40 . “There is no conclusive evidence that moderate, long-term use of cannabis causes lasting damage to physical or mental health“. . “There is no physical dependence associated with cannabis use. Regular users who stop smoking do not suffer withdrawal symptoms in the same way as with drugs like heroin“. . Put that in your pipe and toke it!”[/p][/quote]You still haven't answered the question about devastated parents of a child that appear on TV from time to time citing cannabis as the cause of death following an upward spiral to stronger drugs have you? Cannot see the point of saying you know who I am as I know who you are. John T Pharro
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10:12am Sat 17 Nov 12

Diannah says...

asbo industries inc wrote:
where are the bots...in the pub getting smashed sans doute? cannabis use kills ambition...the bots have got all the staying power of a phart in a hurricane
Cannabis use kills ambition.

You get my quote of the day award for that - very good!
[quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: where are the bots...in the pub getting smashed sans doute? cannabis use kills ambition...the bots have got all the staying power of a phart in a hurricane[/p][/quote]Cannabis use kills ambition. You get my quote of the day award for that - very good! Diannah
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12:52pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

Diannah wrote:
asbo industries inc wrote: where are the bots...in the pub getting smashed sans doute? cannabis use kills ambition...the bots have got all the staying power of a phart in a hurricane
Cannabis use kills ambition. You get my quote of the day award for that - very good!
Don't encourage the troll
[quote][p][bold]Diannah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: where are the bots...in the pub getting smashed sans doute? cannabis use kills ambition...the bots have got all the staying power of a phart in a hurricane[/p][/quote]Cannabis use kills ambition. You get my quote of the day award for that - very good![/p][/quote]Don't encourage the troll Aint it just the truth
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1:11pm Sat 17 Nov 12

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John T Pharro wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.
And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.
And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?
Get your facts right! Cannabis is now either legal or decriminalised or tolerated in dozens of countries. Most of these countries allow possession of small amounts, some levy small fines for possession of small amounts but the fines are not recorded as criminal offences (hence decriminalised), some still retain anti cannabis laws but do not enforce them, such as India where it is still technically illegal (not legal as you claim). You need to read the article again, properly. The bottom line is that the trend to lessen penalties and decriminalise is clear. Twenty years ago hardly any countries allowed legal possession, now many do including some US states. Legalisation is inevitable, get used to it. . John Pharro, almost anyone who was young in the late 60s / early 70s came into contact with cannabis and anyone who denies this is either a liar or they led an extremely sheltered life or they had an extremely poor social life and they certainly weren't in touch with the sixties zeitgeist. Annual surveys since then have shown that between a third and two thirds of all young people in every succeeding generation have used cannabis which means that around half of all people in their early sixties or younger have used cannabis and we all know that most of the tabloid scare stories are absolute nonsense. Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?
Well you have answered your own case. Just because it is decriminalised does not mean it is legal. The NHS says it is "pretty harmless substance" that is their official opinion is it? Actually I had to smile a bit as being a teenager in the 60's and living in Twickenham Eel Pie Island and all that I must have had a sheltered life, because despite visiting them I can assure you the prevalence you think was there was not. Of course it could be that those that looked for it found it. Yes, I still think cannabis is bad because you cannot be sure just how it will affect each person. Rather like alcohol some get affected more than others. Next time you see a parent devastated by the affect of cannabis to their child try telling them it is "pretty harmless.
Oops quoted the wrong comment! (no not toking or drinking or anything else) . Sorry matey but you are too old to have seen it (I do know who you are). Cannabis didn't become common until the summer of 1969, if not early 1970, and it was mostly restricted to people 16 to 20 who nearly ALL toked. You were too old! . Almost everyone I know has been smoking since the late sixties and we are all doing a LOT better than the odd few boozers we know, all of whom are fat, blubbery, bloated and red faced with loads of health problems? What we have found recently is that a small number of people have a faulty gene that makes them more likely to have problems with cannabis, just like some people have faulty genes that make them susceptible to problems with bee stings, peanut butter etc. Personally I don't know anyone who has problems with cannabis, bee stings or peanut butter but perhaps, to be on the safe side we ought to ban bees and peanuts too? . from the Royal College of Psychiatrists . http://www.rcpsych.a c.uk/mentalhealthinf o/problems/alcoholan ddrugs/cannabis.aspx . “Recent research in Denmark suggests that (cannabis induced psychosis) is a short-lived psychotic disorder that seems to be brought on by cannabis use but which subsides fairly quickly once the individual has stopped using it. It's quite unusual though – in the whole of Denmark they found only around 100 new cases per year“. . From the Mental Healthcare website produced by the Institute of Psychiatry, Kings College London and South London & Maudsley NHS Trust. . http://www.mentalhea lthcare.org.uk/canna bis . "The vast majority of cannabis users do not become unwell, just as the majority of people who drink alcohol in moderation never come to harm" (note the specific words they use). . Lonsdale NHS Medical Centre Drug Information . http://www.lonsdalem edicalcentre.nhs.uk/ usefulinfo/content.a sp?id=40 . “There is no conclusive evidence that moderate, long-term use of cannabis causes lasting damage to physical or mental health“. . “There is no physical dependence associated with cannabis use. Regular users who stop smoking do not suffer withdrawal symptoms in the same way as with drugs like heroin“. . Put that in your pipe and toke it!”
You still haven't answered the question about devastated parents of a child that appear on TV from time to time citing cannabis as the cause of death following an upward spiral to stronger drugs have you? Cannot see the point of saying you know who I am as I know who you are.
I said I know who you are (from IYC) as I know you are just a tad too old to have been part of the late sixties/early seventies rock generation. (Sorry!)
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As for your other comments, cannabis does NOT lead onto other drugs, that is proven beyond doubt. However that doesn;t mean that some individuals will not go on to try harder drugs just as some coffee drinkers will move onto booze but in my experience the only people who go on to the hard stuff have self destructive personalities, if drugs were not there they would become alcoholics.
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"Cannabis the cause of death"? No-one in the history of the earth has died from a cannabis overdose. It has been estimated that you'd need to smoke a lorry load to get a lethal overdose, can't be done.
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The number of cannabis casualties are miniscule compared to the number of alcohol casualties (100 per year in Denmark, nor many more in the UK compared to tens of thousands of alcohol casualties). That is part of the reason why my generation took to cannabis, that and the fact that it doesn't turn people into slobbering idiots, tokers are more likely to want a cup of tea and a thoughtful chat than fall about helpless like drinkers. Also, as the Cambridge Uni study said the numbers of cannabis casualties are so small we cannot be sure they would not have happened anyway apart from the tiny number who have the wrong genetic defect. Whilst it is sad that a tiny number of people may actually develop a problem because of cannabis (probably because they have the faulty gene) the bottom line is that cannabis is magnitudes safer than alcohol and that is an undeniable Fact.
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.[/p][/quote]And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.[/p][/quote]And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right! Cannabis is now either legal or decriminalised or tolerated in dozens of countries. Most of these countries allow possession of small amounts, some levy small fines for possession of small amounts but the fines are not recorded as criminal offences (hence decriminalised), some still retain anti cannabis laws but do not enforce them, such as India where it is still technically illegal (not legal as you claim). You need to read the article again, properly. The bottom line is that the trend to lessen penalties and decriminalise is clear. Twenty years ago hardly any countries allowed legal possession, now many do including some US states. Legalisation is inevitable, get used to it. . John Pharro, almost anyone who was young in the late 60s / early 70s came into contact with cannabis and anyone who denies this is either a liar or they led an extremely sheltered life or they had an extremely poor social life and they certainly weren't in touch with the sixties zeitgeist. Annual surveys since then have shown that between a third and two thirds of all young people in every succeeding generation have used cannabis which means that around half of all people in their early sixties or younger have used cannabis and we all know that most of the tabloid scare stories are absolute nonsense. Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?[/p][/quote]Well you have answered your own case. Just because it is decriminalised does not mean it is legal. The NHS says it is "pretty harmless substance" that is their official opinion is it? Actually I had to smile a bit as being a teenager in the 60's and living in Twickenham Eel Pie Island and all that I must have had a sheltered life, because despite visiting them I can assure you the prevalence you think was there was not. Of course it could be that those that looked for it found it. Yes, I still think cannabis is bad because you cannot be sure just how it will affect each person. Rather like alcohol some get affected more than others. Next time you see a parent devastated by the affect of cannabis to their child try telling them it is "pretty harmless.[/p][/quote]Oops quoted the wrong comment! (no not toking or drinking or anything else) . Sorry matey but you are too old to have seen it (I do know who you are). Cannabis didn't become common until the summer of 1969, if not early 1970, and it was mostly restricted to people 16 to 20 who nearly ALL toked. You were too old! . Almost everyone I know has been smoking since the late sixties and we are all doing a LOT better than the odd few boozers we know, all of whom are fat, blubbery, bloated and red faced with loads of health problems? What we have found recently is that a small number of people have a faulty gene that makes them more likely to have problems with cannabis, just like some people have faulty genes that make them susceptible to problems with bee stings, peanut butter etc. Personally I don't know anyone who has problems with cannabis, bee stings or peanut butter but perhaps, to be on the safe side we ought to ban bees and peanuts too? . from the Royal College of Psychiatrists . http://www.rcpsych.a c.uk/mentalhealthinf o/problems/alcoholan ddrugs/cannabis.aspx . “Recent research in Denmark suggests that (cannabis induced psychosis) is a short-lived psychotic disorder that seems to be brought on by cannabis use but which subsides fairly quickly once the individual has stopped using it. It's quite unusual though – in the whole of Denmark they found only around 100 new cases per year“. . From the Mental Healthcare website produced by the Institute of Psychiatry, Kings College London and South London & Maudsley NHS Trust. . http://www.mentalhea lthcare.org.uk/canna bis . "The vast majority of cannabis users do not become unwell, just as the majority of people who drink alcohol in moderation never come to harm" (note the specific words they use). . Lonsdale NHS Medical Centre Drug Information . http://www.lonsdalem edicalcentre.nhs.uk/ usefulinfo/content.a sp?id=40 . “There is no conclusive evidence that moderate, long-term use of cannabis causes lasting damage to physical or mental health“. . “There is no physical dependence associated with cannabis use. Regular users who stop smoking do not suffer withdrawal symptoms in the same way as with drugs like heroin“. . Put that in your pipe and toke it!”[/p][/quote]You still haven't answered the question about devastated parents of a child that appear on TV from time to time citing cannabis as the cause of death following an upward spiral to stronger drugs have you? Cannot see the point of saying you know who I am as I know who you are.[/p][/quote]I said I know who you are (from IYC) as I know you are just a tad too old to have been part of the late sixties/early seventies rock generation. (Sorry!) . As for your other comments, cannabis does NOT lead onto other drugs, that is proven beyond doubt. However that doesn;t mean that some individuals will not go on to try harder drugs just as some coffee drinkers will move onto booze but in my experience the only people who go on to the hard stuff have self destructive personalities, if drugs were not there they would become alcoholics. . "Cannabis the cause of death"? No-one in the history of the earth has died from a cannabis overdose. It has been estimated that you'd need to smoke a lorry load to get a lethal overdose, can't be done. . The number of cannabis casualties are miniscule compared to the number of alcohol casualties (100 per year in Denmark, nor many more in the UK compared to tens of thousands of alcohol casualties). That is part of the reason why my generation took to cannabis, that and the fact that it doesn't turn people into slobbering idiots, tokers are more likely to want a cup of tea and a thoughtful chat than fall about helpless like drinkers. Also, as the Cambridge Uni study said the numbers of cannabis casualties are so small we cannot be sure they would not have happened anyway apart from the tiny number who have the wrong genetic defect. Whilst it is sad that a tiny number of people may actually develop a problem because of cannabis (probably because they have the faulty gene) the bottom line is that cannabis is magnitudes safer than alcohol and that is an undeniable Fact. Aint it just the truth
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1:16pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation and the tide of history is inevitable ... ho ho!
Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation and the tide of history is inevitable ... ho ho! Aint it just the truth
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1:16pm Sat 17 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Diannah wrote:
asbo industries inc wrote: where are the bots...in the pub getting smashed sans doute? cannabis use kills ambition...the bots have got all the staying power of a phart in a hurricane
Cannabis use kills ambition. You get my quote of the day award for that - very good!
Don't encourage the troll
talking of pharts in hurricanes...
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Diannah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: where are the bots...in the pub getting smashed sans doute? cannabis use kills ambition...the bots have got all the staying power of a phart in a hurricane[/p][/quote]Cannabis use kills ambition. You get my quote of the day award for that - very good![/p][/quote]Don't encourage the troll[/p][/quote]talking of pharts in hurricanes... asbo industries inc
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1:30pm Sat 17 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation and the tide of history is inevitable ... ho ho!
the feds will never play ball. ho ho! the US is going through the last days of the roman empire. policies like cannabis legalisation, which will never be a at federal level btw, will only hasten their demise.
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation and the tide of history is inevitable ... ho ho![/p][/quote]the feds will never play ball. ho ho! the US is going through the last days of the roman empire. policies like cannabis legalisation, which will never be a at federal level btw, will only hasten their demise. asbo industries inc
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1:56pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

asbo industries inc wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Diannah wrote:
asbo industries inc wrote: where are the bots...in the pub getting smashed sans doute? cannabis use kills ambition...the bots have got all the staying power of a phart in a hurricane
Cannabis use kills ambition. You get my quote of the day award for that - very good!
Don't encourage the troll
talking of pharts in hurricanes...
That's you sir, a phart trying to blow against the hurricane of history.
[quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Diannah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: where are the bots...in the pub getting smashed sans doute? cannabis use kills ambition...the bots have got all the staying power of a phart in a hurricane[/p][/quote]Cannabis use kills ambition. You get my quote of the day award for that - very good![/p][/quote]Don't encourage the troll[/p][/quote]talking of pharts in hurricanes...[/p][/quote]That's you sir, a phart trying to blow against the hurricane of history. Aint it just the truth
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2:03pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

asbo industries inc wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation and the tide of history is inevitable ... ho ho!
the feds will never play ball. ho ho! the US is going through the last days of the roman empire. policies like cannabis legalisation, which will never be a at federal level btw, will only hasten their demise.
Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago where even the current right wing government decided NOT to reverse the cannabis laws? Colorado and Washington today, the rest of the world tomorrow ho ho! The tide of history is INEVITABLE!
[quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation and the tide of history is inevitable ... ho ho![/p][/quote]the feds will never play ball. ho ho! the US is going through the last days of the roman empire. policies like cannabis legalisation, which will never be a at federal level btw, will only hasten their demise.[/p][/quote]Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago where even the current right wing government decided NOT to reverse the cannabis laws? Colorado and Washington today, the rest of the world tomorrow ho ho! The tide of history is INEVITABLE! Aint it just the truth
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4:14pm Sat 17 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

Excitiation banging on about Holland again LOL
Excitiation banging on about Holland again LOL InTheKnowOk
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5:52pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Nebs says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
asbo industries inc wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation and the tide of history is inevitable ... ho ho!
the feds will never play ball. ho ho! the US is going through the last days of the roman empire. policies like cannabis legalisation, which will never be a at federal level btw, will only hasten their demise.
Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago where even the current right wing government decided NOT to reverse the cannabis laws? Colorado and Washington today, the rest of the world tomorrow ho ho! The tide of history is INEVITABLE!
I thought cannabis was still illegal in Holland, but was simply tolerated by way of not prosecuting people provided they had less than a certain amount. Their tolerance seems to reducing, as evidenced by trying to cut down on the drug tourists who go there to purchase this illegal drug.
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation and the tide of history is inevitable ... ho ho![/p][/quote]the feds will never play ball. ho ho! the US is going through the last days of the roman empire. policies like cannabis legalisation, which will never be a at federal level btw, will only hasten their demise.[/p][/quote]Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago where even the current right wing government decided NOT to reverse the cannabis laws? Colorado and Washington today, the rest of the world tomorrow ho ho! The tide of history is INEVITABLE![/p][/quote]I thought cannabis was still illegal in Holland, but was simply tolerated by way of not prosecuting people provided they had less than a certain amount. Their tolerance seems to reducing, as evidenced by trying to cut down on the drug tourists who go there to purchase this illegal drug. Nebs
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6:14pm Sat 17 Nov 12

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Nebs wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
asbo industries inc wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation and the tide of history is inevitable ... ho ho!
the feds will never play ball. ho ho! the US is going through the last days of the roman empire. policies like cannabis legalisation, which will never be a at federal level btw, will only hasten their demise.
Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago where even the current right wing government decided NOT to reverse the cannabis laws? Colorado and Washington today, the rest of the world tomorrow ho ho! The tide of history is INEVITABLE!
I thought cannabis was still illegal in Holland, but was simply tolerated by way of not prosecuting people provided they had less than a certain amount. Their tolerance seems to reducing, as evidenced by trying to cut down on the drug tourists who go there to purchase this illegal drug.
Still out of touch Nebs? If you can buy weed over the counter legally in every high street in the country it's certainly not illegal is it? The current right wing government in Holland did say they would crack down on the 'legal' cannabis trade but they have backed down and now say they are not going to change anything. Why not? Probably because it doesn't cause any problems, it attracts the tourists and it makes the country money. QED.
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Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation is inevitable ... ho ho!
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation and the tide of history is inevitable ... ho ho![/p][/quote]the feds will never play ball. ho ho! the US is going through the last days of the roman empire. policies like cannabis legalisation, which will never be a at federal level btw, will only hasten their demise.[/p][/quote]Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago where even the current right wing government decided NOT to reverse the cannabis laws? Colorado and Washington today, the rest of the world tomorrow ho ho! The tide of history is INEVITABLE![/p][/quote]I thought cannabis was still illegal in Holland, but was simply tolerated by way of not prosecuting people provided they had less than a certain amount. Their tolerance seems to reducing, as evidenced by trying to cut down on the drug tourists who go there to purchase this illegal drug.[/p][/quote]Still out of touch Nebs? If you can buy weed over the counter legally in every high street in the country it's certainly not illegal is it? The current right wing government in Holland did say they would crack down on the 'legal' cannabis trade but they have backed down and now say they are not going to change anything. Why not? Probably because it doesn't cause any problems, it attracts the tourists and it makes the country money. QED. . Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation is inevitable ... ho ho! Aint it just the truth
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7:04pm Sat 17 Nov 12

John T Pharro says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.
And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.
And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?
Get your facts right! Cannabis is now either legal or decriminalised or tolerated in dozens of countries. Most of these countries allow possession of small amounts, some levy small fines for possession of small amounts but the fines are not recorded as criminal offences (hence decriminalised), some still retain anti cannabis laws but do not enforce them, such as India where it is still technically illegal (not legal as you claim). You need to read the article again, properly. The bottom line is that the trend to lessen penalties and decriminalise is clear. Twenty years ago hardly any countries allowed legal possession, now many do including some US states. Legalisation is inevitable, get used to it. . John Pharro, almost anyone who was young in the late 60s / early 70s came into contact with cannabis and anyone who denies this is either a liar or they led an extremely sheltered life or they had an extremely poor social life and they certainly weren't in touch with the sixties zeitgeist. Annual surveys since then have shown that between a third and two thirds of all young people in every succeeding generation have used cannabis which means that around half of all people in their early sixties or younger have used cannabis and we all know that most of the tabloid scare stories are absolute nonsense. Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?
Well you have answered your own case. Just because it is decriminalised does not mean it is legal. The NHS says it is "pretty harmless substance" that is their official opinion is it? Actually I had to smile a bit as being a teenager in the 60's and living in Twickenham Eel Pie Island and all that I must have had a sheltered life, because despite visiting them I can assure you the prevalence you think was there was not. Of course it could be that those that looked for it found it. Yes, I still think cannabis is bad because you cannot be sure just how it will affect each person. Rather like alcohol some get affected more than others. Next time you see a parent devastated by the affect of cannabis to their child try telling them it is "pretty harmless.
Oops quoted the wrong comment! (no not toking or drinking or anything else) . Sorry matey but you are too old to have seen it (I do know who you are). Cannabis didn't become common until the summer of 1969, if not early 1970, and it was mostly restricted to people 16 to 20 who nearly ALL toked. You were too old! . Almost everyone I know has been smoking since the late sixties and we are all doing a LOT better than the odd few boozers we know, all of whom are fat, blubbery, bloated and red faced with loads of health problems? What we have found recently is that a small number of people have a faulty gene that makes them more likely to have problems with cannabis, just like some people have faulty genes that make them susceptible to problems with bee stings, peanut butter etc. Personally I don't know anyone who has problems with cannabis, bee stings or peanut butter but perhaps, to be on the safe side we ought to ban bees and peanuts too? . from the Royal College of Psychiatrists . http://www.rcpsych.a c.uk/mentalhealthinf o/problems/alcoholan ddrugs/cannabis.aspx . “Recent research in Denmark suggests that (cannabis induced psychosis) is a short-lived psychotic disorder that seems to be brought on by cannabis use but which subsides fairly quickly once the individual has stopped using it. It's quite unusual though – in the whole of Denmark they found only around 100 new cases per year“. . From the Mental Healthcare website produced by the Institute of Psychiatry, Kings College London and South London & Maudsley NHS Trust. . http://www.mentalhea lthcare.org.uk/canna bis . "The vast majority of cannabis users do not become unwell, just as the majority of people who drink alcohol in moderation never come to harm" (note the specific words they use). . Lonsdale NHS Medical Centre Drug Information . http://www.lonsdalem edicalcentre.nhs.uk/ usefulinfo/content.a sp?id=40 . “There is no conclusive evidence that moderate, long-term use of cannabis causes lasting damage to physical or mental health“. . “There is no physical dependence associated with cannabis use. Regular users who stop smoking do not suffer withdrawal symptoms in the same way as with drugs like heroin“. . Put that in your pipe and toke it!”
You still haven't answered the question about devastated parents of a child that appear on TV from time to time citing cannabis as the cause of death following an upward spiral to stronger drugs have you? Cannot see the point of saying you know who I am as I know who you are.
I said I know who you are (from IYC) as I know you are just a tad too old to have been part of the late sixties/early seventies rock generation. (Sorry!)
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As for your other comments, cannabis does NOT lead onto other drugs, that is proven beyond doubt. However that doesn;t mean that some individuals will not go on to try harder drugs just as some coffee drinkers will move onto booze but in my experience the only people who go on to the hard stuff have self destructive personalities, if drugs were not there they would become alcoholics.
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"Cannabis the cause of death"? No-one in the history of the earth has died from a cannabis overdose. It has been estimated that you'd need to smoke a lorry load to get a lethal overdose, can't be done.
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The number of cannabis casualties are miniscule compared to the number of alcohol casualties (100 per year in Denmark, nor many more in the UK compared to tens of thousands of alcohol casualties). That is part of the reason why my generation took to cannabis, that and the fact that it doesn't turn people into slobbering idiots, tokers are more likely to want a cup of tea and a thoughtful chat than fall about helpless like drinkers. Also, as the Cambridge Uni study said the numbers of cannabis casualties are so small we cannot be sure they would not have happened anyway apart from the tiny number who have the wrong genetic defect. Whilst it is sad that a tiny number of people may actually develop a problem because of cannabis (probably because they have the faulty gene) the bottom line is that cannabis is magnitudes safer than alcohol and that is an undeniable Fact.
For every "proof that " cannabis is safe, you will find "proof" that it isn't.
So let''s get back to one of my previous questions. Answer yes or no.
Would you recommend people to,take cannabis? No up "to them" or "freedom of choice". Just a straight yes or no.
I say no and you? Should be simple just answer yes or no.
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.[/p][/quote]And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.[/p][/quote]And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right! Cannabis is now either legal or decriminalised or tolerated in dozens of countries. Most of these countries allow possession of small amounts, some levy small fines for possession of small amounts but the fines are not recorded as criminal offences (hence decriminalised), some still retain anti cannabis laws but do not enforce them, such as India where it is still technically illegal (not legal as you claim). You need to read the article again, properly. The bottom line is that the trend to lessen penalties and decriminalise is clear. Twenty years ago hardly any countries allowed legal possession, now many do including some US states. Legalisation is inevitable, get used to it. . John Pharro, almost anyone who was young in the late 60s / early 70s came into contact with cannabis and anyone who denies this is either a liar or they led an extremely sheltered life or they had an extremely poor social life and they certainly weren't in touch with the sixties zeitgeist. Annual surveys since then have shown that between a third and two thirds of all young people in every succeeding generation have used cannabis which means that around half of all people in their early sixties or younger have used cannabis and we all know that most of the tabloid scare stories are absolute nonsense. Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?[/p][/quote]Well you have answered your own case. Just because it is decriminalised does not mean it is legal. The NHS says it is "pretty harmless substance" that is their official opinion is it? Actually I had to smile a bit as being a teenager in the 60's and living in Twickenham Eel Pie Island and all that I must have had a sheltered life, because despite visiting them I can assure you the prevalence you think was there was not. Of course it could be that those that looked for it found it. Yes, I still think cannabis is bad because you cannot be sure just how it will affect each person. Rather like alcohol some get affected more than others. Next time you see a parent devastated by the affect of cannabis to their child try telling them it is "pretty harmless.[/p][/quote]Oops quoted the wrong comment! (no not toking or drinking or anything else) . Sorry matey but you are too old to have seen it (I do know who you are). Cannabis didn't become common until the summer of 1969, if not early 1970, and it was mostly restricted to people 16 to 20 who nearly ALL toked. You were too old! . Almost everyone I know has been smoking since the late sixties and we are all doing a LOT better than the odd few boozers we know, all of whom are fat, blubbery, bloated and red faced with loads of health problems? What we have found recently is that a small number of people have a faulty gene that makes them more likely to have problems with cannabis, just like some people have faulty genes that make them susceptible to problems with bee stings, peanut butter etc. Personally I don't know anyone who has problems with cannabis, bee stings or peanut butter but perhaps, to be on the safe side we ought to ban bees and peanuts too? . from the Royal College of Psychiatrists . http://www.rcpsych.a c.uk/mentalhealthinf o/problems/alcoholan ddrugs/cannabis.aspx . “Recent research in Denmark suggests that (cannabis induced psychosis) is a short-lived psychotic disorder that seems to be brought on by cannabis use but which subsides fairly quickly once the individual has stopped using it. It's quite unusual though – in the whole of Denmark they found only around 100 new cases per year“. . From the Mental Healthcare website produced by the Institute of Psychiatry, Kings College London and South London & Maudsley NHS Trust. . http://www.mentalhea lthcare.org.uk/canna bis . "The vast majority of cannabis users do not become unwell, just as the majority of people who drink alcohol in moderation never come to harm" (note the specific words they use). . Lonsdale NHS Medical Centre Drug Information . http://www.lonsdalem edicalcentre.nhs.uk/ usefulinfo/content.a sp?id=40 . “There is no conclusive evidence that moderate, long-term use of cannabis causes lasting damage to physical or mental health“. . “There is no physical dependence associated with cannabis use. Regular users who stop smoking do not suffer withdrawal symptoms in the same way as with drugs like heroin“. . Put that in your pipe and toke it!”[/p][/quote]You still haven't answered the question about devastated parents of a child that appear on TV from time to time citing cannabis as the cause of death following an upward spiral to stronger drugs have you? Cannot see the point of saying you know who I am as I know who you are.[/p][/quote]I said I know who you are (from IYC) as I know you are just a tad too old to have been part of the late sixties/early seventies rock generation. (Sorry!) . As for your other comments, cannabis does NOT lead onto other drugs, that is proven beyond doubt. However that doesn;t mean that some individuals will not go on to try harder drugs just as some coffee drinkers will move onto booze but in my experience the only people who go on to the hard stuff have self destructive personalities, if drugs were not there they would become alcoholics. . "Cannabis the cause of death"? No-one in the history of the earth has died from a cannabis overdose. It has been estimated that you'd need to smoke a lorry load to get a lethal overdose, can't be done. . The number of cannabis casualties are miniscule compared to the number of alcohol casualties (100 per year in Denmark, nor many more in the UK compared to tens of thousands of alcohol casualties). That is part of the reason why my generation took to cannabis, that and the fact that it doesn't turn people into slobbering idiots, tokers are more likely to want a cup of tea and a thoughtful chat than fall about helpless like drinkers. Also, as the Cambridge Uni study said the numbers of cannabis casualties are so small we cannot be sure they would not have happened anyway apart from the tiny number who have the wrong genetic defect. Whilst it is sad that a tiny number of people may actually develop a problem because of cannabis (probably because they have the faulty gene) the bottom line is that cannabis is magnitudes safer than alcohol and that is an undeniable Fact.[/p][/quote]For every "proof that " cannabis is safe, you will find "proof" that it isn't. So let''s get back to one of my previous questions. Answer yes or no. Would you recommend people to,take cannabis? No up "to them" or "freedom of choice". Just a straight yes or no. I say no and you? Should be simple just answer yes or no. John T Pharro
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8:41pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

Rubbish, you will only find that if you do not understand the subject (as you don't) and/or you do not assess your sources properly. The bottom line is that there are thousands of times the number of alcohol casualties than there are cannabis casualties despite the fact that around 7 million people smoke weed in the UK. All the latest surveys say that the majority of people under 65 (critical age, as you know) would support the decriminalisation of cannabis. I would never "recommend" smoking cannabis (another silly question John)but I would agree that it is "up to them" and their "freedom of choice".
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Let me tell you a story ... a few years ago friends of ours (he's a chartered surveyor, she's a teacher) lost their youngest child in an accident. Their older children took it badly and went off the rails, raiding Mum and Dad's drinks cabinet and started using drugs. Within a year or so they were getting drunk and then taking one of the family cars out joy-riding (silly phrase) and using lord knows what drugs so the parents offered the kids a solution, they told the kids they could smoke dope in the house if they stopped drinking alcohol and swiping the car, and it worked, the kids calmed down, knuckled down with their school/college work, went on to Uni and now they are both extremely useful members of society, one is a civil servant, the other an accountant, but if they had continued doing what they were doing they would probably have ended up a drunk driving statistic. Fortunately their parents (my generation) knew enough about these things to take what you would probably say was a daft decision, except it wasn't and it probably saved their lives. Open up your mind sir, Colorado and Washington are amongst the most sensible US states. Roll on the revolution!
Rubbish, you will only find that if you do not understand the subject (as you don't) and/or you do not assess your sources properly. The bottom line is that there are thousands of times the number of alcohol casualties than there are cannabis casualties despite the fact that around 7 million people smoke weed in the UK. All the latest surveys say that the majority of people under 65 (critical age, as you know) would support the decriminalisation of cannabis. I would never "recommend" smoking cannabis (another silly question John)but I would agree that it is "up to them" and their "freedom of choice". . Let me tell you a story ... a few years ago friends of ours (he's a chartered surveyor, she's a teacher) lost their youngest child in an accident. Their older children took it badly and went off the rails, raiding Mum and Dad's drinks cabinet and started using drugs. Within a year or so they were getting drunk and then taking one of the family cars out joy-riding (silly phrase) and using lord knows what drugs so the parents offered the kids a solution, they told the kids they could smoke dope in the house if they stopped drinking alcohol and swiping the car, and it worked, the kids calmed down, knuckled down with their school/college work, went on to Uni and now they are both extremely useful members of society, one is a civil servant, the other an accountant, but if they had continued doing what they were doing they would probably have ended up a drunk driving statistic. Fortunately their parents (my generation) knew enough about these things to take what you would probably say was a daft decision, except it wasn't and it probably saved their lives. Open up your mind sir, Colorado and Washington are amongst the most sensible US states. Roll on the revolution! Aint it just the truth
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8:45pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

Ooops, couple of lines up should have read "probably saved their KIDS lives".
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Apologies to my friends (you know who you are A & L) if they see me airing their dirty washing in public.
Ooops, couple of lines up should have read "probably saved their KIDS lives". . Apologies to my friends (you know who you are A & L) if they see me airing their dirty washing in public. Aint it just the truth
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8:53pm Sat 17 Nov 12

John T Pharro says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Ooops, couple of lines up should have read "probably saved their KIDS lives".
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Apologies to my friends (you know who you are A & L) if they see me airing their dirty washing in public.
Take that as you cannot answer yes or no.
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Ooops, couple of lines up should have read "probably saved their KIDS lives". . Apologies to my friends (you know who you are A & L) if they see me airing their dirty washing in public.[/p][/quote]Take that as you cannot answer yes or no. John T Pharro
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9:05pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

Stop asking silly questions. If you had a decent education you would know that few questions can be answered with a simple yes or no. Tell me would you "recommend" people drink alcohol? Answer yes or no!
Stop asking silly questions. If you had a decent education you would know that few questions can be answered with a simple yes or no. Tell me would you "recommend" people drink alcohol? Answer yes or no! Aint it just the truth
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10:07pm Sat 17 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

cannabis losers sorry meant users and honesty - discuss. actually nothing to write.
cannabis losers sorry meant users and compulsive dishonesty...yep there's a war and peace novel in my head.
cannabis losers sorry meant users and honesty - discuss. actually nothing to write. cannabis losers sorry meant users and compulsive dishonesty...yep there's a war and peace novel in my head. asbo industries inc
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10:13pm Sat 17 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

free speech eh....not in hadleigh.
freedom to smoke dope is all you crave for the win
free speech eh....not in hadleigh. freedom to smoke dope is all you crave for the win asbo industries inc
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10:32pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Nebs says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Nebs wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
asbo industries inc wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation and the tide of history is inevitable ... ho ho!
the feds will never play ball. ho ho! the US is going through the last days of the roman empire. policies like cannabis legalisation, which will never be a at federal level btw, will only hasten their demise.
Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago where even the current right wing government decided NOT to reverse the cannabis laws? Colorado and Washington today, the rest of the world tomorrow ho ho! The tide of history is INEVITABLE!
I thought cannabis was still illegal in Holland, but was simply tolerated by way of not prosecuting people provided they had less than a certain amount. Their tolerance seems to reducing, as evidenced by trying to cut down on the drug tourists who go there to purchase this illegal drug.
Still out of touch Nebs? If you can buy weed over the counter legally in every high street in the country it's certainly not illegal is it? The current right wing government in Holland did say they would crack down on the 'legal' cannabis trade but they have backed down and now say they are not going to change anything. Why not? Probably because it doesn't cause any problems, it attracts the tourists and it makes the country money. QED.
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Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation is inevitable ... ho ho!
I typed: is cannabis legal in Holland, into google. The answers I read were different to yours. Illegal but tolerated is very different to legalised.
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation and the tide of history is inevitable ... ho ho![/p][/quote]the feds will never play ball. ho ho! the US is going through the last days of the roman empire. policies like cannabis legalisation, which will never be a at federal level btw, will only hasten their demise.[/p][/quote]Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago where even the current right wing government decided NOT to reverse the cannabis laws? Colorado and Washington today, the rest of the world tomorrow ho ho! The tide of history is INEVITABLE![/p][/quote]I thought cannabis was still illegal in Holland, but was simply tolerated by way of not prosecuting people provided they had less than a certain amount. Their tolerance seems to reducing, as evidenced by trying to cut down on the drug tourists who go there to purchase this illegal drug.[/p][/quote]Still out of touch Nebs? If you can buy weed over the counter legally in every high street in the country it's certainly not illegal is it? The current right wing government in Holland did say they would crack down on the 'legal' cannabis trade but they have backed down and now say they are not going to change anything. Why not? Probably because it doesn't cause any problems, it attracts the tourists and it makes the country money. QED. . Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation is inevitable ... ho ho![/p][/quote]I typed: is cannabis legal in Holland, into google. The answers I read were different to yours. Illegal but tolerated is very different to legalised. Nebs
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10:43pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

Pedantic as ever Nebs? Have you ever been to Holland and I don't just mean Amsterdam? Every high street has a cafe where you can buy any kind of cannabis you want and there are loads of openly advertised cannabis home delivery services. How is that different to legal?
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I believe it is actually legal to have small quantities in Holland but they frown on large amounts, not sure how the cafe's get around that but they do.
Pedantic as ever Nebs? Have you ever been to Holland and I don't just mean Amsterdam? Every high street has a cafe where you can buy any kind of cannabis you want and there are loads of openly advertised cannabis home delivery services. How is that different to legal? . I believe it is actually legal to have small quantities in Holland but they frown on large amounts, not sure how the cafe's get around that but they do. Aint it just the truth
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10:44pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Lastlaugh... says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.
And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.
And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?
Get your facts right! Cannabis is now either legal or decriminalised or tolerated in dozens of countries. Most of these countries allow possession of small amounts, some levy small fines for possession of small amounts but the fines are not recorded as criminal offences (hence decriminalised), some still retain anti cannabis laws but do not enforce them, such as India where it is still technically illegal (not legal as you claim). You need to read the article again, properly. The bottom line is that the trend to lessen penalties and decriminalise is clear. Twenty years ago hardly any countries allowed legal possession, now many do including some US states. Legalisation is inevitable, get used to it.
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John Pharro, almost anyone who was young in the late 60s / early 70s came into contact with cannabis and anyone who denies this is either a liar or they led an extremely sheltered life or they had an extremely poor social life and they certainly weren't in touch with the sixties zeitgeist. Annual surveys since then have shown that between a third and two thirds of all young people in every succeeding generation have used cannabis which means that around half of all people in their early sixties or younger have used cannabis and we all know that most of the tabloid scare stories are absolute nonsense. Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?
"Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?"

And do you need to be reminded this "harmless substance" is illegal and will remain so long after you are fertilising the earth
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.[/p][/quote]And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.[/p][/quote]And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right! Cannabis is now either legal or decriminalised or tolerated in dozens of countries. Most of these countries allow possession of small amounts, some levy small fines for possession of small amounts but the fines are not recorded as criminal offences (hence decriminalised), some still retain anti cannabis laws but do not enforce them, such as India where it is still technically illegal (not legal as you claim). You need to read the article again, properly. The bottom line is that the trend to lessen penalties and decriminalise is clear. Twenty years ago hardly any countries allowed legal possession, now many do including some US states. Legalisation is inevitable, get used to it. . John Pharro, almost anyone who was young in the late 60s / early 70s came into contact with cannabis and anyone who denies this is either a liar or they led an extremely sheltered life or they had an extremely poor social life and they certainly weren't in touch with the sixties zeitgeist. Annual surveys since then have shown that between a third and two thirds of all young people in every succeeding generation have used cannabis which means that around half of all people in their early sixties or younger have used cannabis and we all know that most of the tabloid scare stories are absolute nonsense. Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?[/p][/quote]"Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?" And do you need to be reminded this "harmless substance" is illegal and will remain so long after you are fertilising the earth Lastlaugh...
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10:49pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Lastlaugh... says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Any Police officer would tell you that cannabis users are not a problem to themselves, to the Police or to anyone else, unlike boozers, so they'd rather not waste their time having to enforce an unenforcable and unjustifiable law. True.
"Any Police officer would tell you that cannabis users are not a problem to themselves, to the Police or to anyone else"

Cannabis users dont commit crime?
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Any Police officer would tell you that cannabis users are not a problem to themselves, to the Police or to anyone else, unlike boozers, so they'd rather not waste their time having to enforce an unenforcable and unjustifiable law. True.[/p][/quote]"Any Police officer would tell you that cannabis users are not a problem to themselves, to the Police or to anyone else" Cannabis users dont commit crime? Lastlaugh...
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10:55pm Sat 17 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

http://www.echo-news
.co.uk/news/local_ne
ws/southend/9829604.
Man_found_guilty_of_
killing_at_Southend_
towerblock/
http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/local_ne ws/southend/9829604. Man_found_guilty_of_ killing_at_Southend_ towerblock/ asbo industries inc
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10:56pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

Hello hello the troll from Crays Hill who knows nothing whatsoever about this subject has joined us. Do you never learn?
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Cannabis is legal, decriminalised, allowed for 'medicinal use' or tolerated in Colorado, Washington, 22 other states, most of Australia, Canada, Portugal, Switzerland, Holland etc etc etc.
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The law is not always right, not so long ago we could call travellers whatever we wanted couldn't we LL, was the law right then?
Hello hello the troll from Crays Hill who knows nothing whatsoever about this subject has joined us. Do you never learn? . Cannabis is legal, decriminalised, allowed for 'medicinal use' or tolerated in Colorado, Washington, 22 other states, most of Australia, Canada, Portugal, Switzerland, Holland etc etc etc. . The law is not always right, not so long ago we could call travellers whatever we wanted couldn't we LL, was the law right then? Aint it just the truth
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10:58pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

I'm not wasting my time with brainless trolss any more but mark my words, if you go over the top again I will have you removed, again. Got that?
I'm not wasting my time with brainless trolss any more but mark my words, if you go over the top again I will have you removed, again. Got that? Aint it just the truth
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11:00pm Sat 17 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

cannabis is not legal in the US nor will it be ever legal in the US. the looserville states can try to go their own way but they will be slapped down by the DEA and federal government. ho ho
cannabis is not legal in the US nor will it be ever legal in the US. the looserville states can try to go their own way but they will be slapped down by the DEA and federal government. ho ho asbo industries inc
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11:02pm Sat 17 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

cannabis users are spineless losers...got that?
cannabis users are spineless losers...got that? asbo industries inc
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11:06pm Sat 17 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Rubbish, you will only find that if you do not understand the subject (as you don't) and/or you do not assess your sources properly. The bottom line is that there are thousands of times the number of alcohol casualties than there are cannabis casualties despite the fact that around 7 million people smoke weed in the UK. All the latest surveys say that the majority of people under 65 (critical age, as you know) would support the decriminalisation of cannabis. I would never "recommend" smoking cannabis (another silly question John)but I would agree that it is "up to them" and their "freedom of choice".
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Let me tell you a story ... a few years ago friends of ours (he's a chartered surveyor, she's a teacher) lost their youngest child in an accident. Their older children took it badly and went off the rails, raiding Mum and Dad's drinks cabinet and started using drugs. Within a year or so they were getting drunk and then taking one of the family cars out joy-riding (silly phrase) and using lord knows what drugs so the parents offered the kids a solution, they told the kids they could smoke dope in the house if they stopped drinking alcohol and swiping the car, and it worked, the kids calmed down, knuckled down with their school/college work, went on to Uni and now they are both extremely useful members of society, one is a civil servant, the other an accountant, but if they had continued doing what they were doing they would probably have ended up a drunk driving statistic. Fortunately their parents (my generation) knew enough about these things to take what you would probably say was a daft decision, except it wasn't and it probably saved their lives. Open up your mind sir, Colorado and Washington are amongst the most sensible US states. Roll on the revolution!
SO what you are implying is if your kids get out of hand let them have a joint??? ....... You have got to be the biggest idiot on here for thinking that's the right way to bring up a teenager .. The only joint that would get past my front door is one that i'd carve on a Sunday .. There are NO USEFUL members of society that take drugs, NONE WHATSOEVER!
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Rubbish, you will only find that if you do not understand the subject (as you don't) and/or you do not assess your sources properly. The bottom line is that there are thousands of times the number of alcohol casualties than there are cannabis casualties despite the fact that around 7 million people smoke weed in the UK. All the latest surveys say that the majority of people under 65 (critical age, as you know) would support the decriminalisation of cannabis. I would never "recommend" smoking cannabis (another silly question John)but I would agree that it is "up to them" and their "freedom of choice". . Let me tell you a story ... a few years ago friends of ours (he's a chartered surveyor, she's a teacher) lost their youngest child in an accident. Their older children took it badly and went off the rails, raiding Mum and Dad's drinks cabinet and started using drugs. Within a year or so they were getting drunk and then taking one of the family cars out joy-riding (silly phrase) and using lord knows what drugs so the parents offered the kids a solution, they told the kids they could smoke dope in the house if they stopped drinking alcohol and swiping the car, and it worked, the kids calmed down, knuckled down with their school/college work, went on to Uni and now they are both extremely useful members of society, one is a civil servant, the other an accountant, but if they had continued doing what they were doing they would probably have ended up a drunk driving statistic. Fortunately their parents (my generation) knew enough about these things to take what you would probably say was a daft decision, except it wasn't and it probably saved their lives. Open up your mind sir, Colorado and Washington are amongst the most sensible US states. Roll on the revolution![/p][/quote]SO what you are implying is if your kids get out of hand let them have a joint??? ....... You have got to be the biggest idiot on here for thinking that's the right way to bring up a teenager .. The only joint that would get past my front door is one that i'd carve on a Sunday .. There are NO USEFUL members of society that take drugs, NONE WHATSOEVER! InTheKnowOk
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11:07pm Sat 17 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
I'm not wasting my time with brainless trolss any more but mark my words, if you go over the top again I will have you removed, again. Got that?
but i thought you never complained about anyone on this website. the truth prevailing again?
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: I'm not wasting my time with brainless trolss any more but mark my words, if you go over the top again I will have you removed, again. Got that?[/p][/quote]but i thought you never complained about anyone on this website. the truth prevailing again? asbo industries inc
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11:07pm Sat 17 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

http://www.echo-news
.co.uk/news/local_ne
ws/southend/9829604.
Man_found_guilty_of_
killing_at_Southend_
towerblock/
http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/local_ne ws/southend/9829604. Man_found_guilty_of_ killing_at_Southend_ towerblock/ asbo industries inc
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11:11pm Sat 17 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Rubbish, you will only find that if you do not understand the subject (as you don't) and/or you do not assess your sources properly. The bottom line is that there are thousands of times the number of alcohol casualties than there are cannabis casualties despite the fact that around 7 million people smoke weed in the UK. All the latest surveys say that the majority of people under 65 (critical age, as you know) would support the decriminalisation of cannabis. I would never "recommend" smoking cannabis (another silly question John)but I would agree that it is "up to them" and their "freedom of choice".
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Let me tell you a story ... a few years ago friends of ours (he's a chartered surveyor, she's a teacher) lost their youngest child in an accident. Their older children took it badly and went off the rails, raiding Mum and Dad's drinks cabinet and started using drugs. Within a year or so they were getting drunk and then taking one of the family cars out joy-riding (silly phrase) and using lord knows what drugs so the parents offered the kids a solution, they told the kids they could smoke dope in the house if they stopped drinking alcohol and swiping the car, and it worked, the kids calmed down, knuckled down with their school/college work, went on to Uni and now they are both extremely useful members of society, one is a civil servant, the other an accountant, but if they had continued doing what they were doing they would probably have ended up a drunk driving statistic. Fortunately their parents (my generation) knew enough about these things to take what you would probably say was a daft decision, except it wasn't and it probably saved their lives. Open up your mind sir, Colorado and Washington are amongst the most sensible US states. Roll on the revolution!
SO what you are implying is if your kids get out of hand let them have a joint??? ....... You have got to be the biggest idiot on here for thinking that's the right way to bring up a teenager .. The only joint that would get past my front door is one that i'd carve on a Sunday .. There are NO USEFUL members of society that take drugs, NONE WHATSOEVER!
bring back the bots. at least they not programmed to lie.
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Rubbish, you will only find that if you do not understand the subject (as you don't) and/or you do not assess your sources properly. The bottom line is that there are thousands of times the number of alcohol casualties than there are cannabis casualties despite the fact that around 7 million people smoke weed in the UK. All the latest surveys say that the majority of people under 65 (critical age, as you know) would support the decriminalisation of cannabis. I would never "recommend" smoking cannabis (another silly question John)but I would agree that it is "up to them" and their "freedom of choice". . Let me tell you a story ... a few years ago friends of ours (he's a chartered surveyor, she's a teacher) lost their youngest child in an accident. Their older children took it badly and went off the rails, raiding Mum and Dad's drinks cabinet and started using drugs. Within a year or so they were getting drunk and then taking one of the family cars out joy-riding (silly phrase) and using lord knows what drugs so the parents offered the kids a solution, they told the kids they could smoke dope in the house if they stopped drinking alcohol and swiping the car, and it worked, the kids calmed down, knuckled down with their school/college work, went on to Uni and now they are both extremely useful members of society, one is a civil servant, the other an accountant, but if they had continued doing what they were doing they would probably have ended up a drunk driving statistic. Fortunately their parents (my generation) knew enough about these things to take what you would probably say was a daft decision, except it wasn't and it probably saved their lives. Open up your mind sir, Colorado and Washington are amongst the most sensible US states. Roll on the revolution![/p][/quote]SO what you are implying is if your kids get out of hand let them have a joint??? ....... You have got to be the biggest idiot on here for thinking that's the right way to bring up a teenager .. The only joint that would get past my front door is one that i'd carve on a Sunday .. There are NO USEFUL members of society that take drugs, NONE WHATSOEVER![/p][/quote]bring back the bots. at least they not programmed to lie. asbo industries inc
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11:13pm Sat 17 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

Cannabis users stink
Cannabis users stink InTheKnowOk
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11:13pm Sat 17 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

http://www.echo-news
.co.uk/news/local_ne
ws/southend/9829604.
Man_found_guilty_of_
killing_at_Southend_
towerblock/
http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/local_ne ws/southend/9829604. Man_found_guilty_of_ killing_at_Southend_ towerblock/ asbo industries inc
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11:34pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Nebs says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Pedantic as ever Nebs? Have you ever been to Holland and I don't just mean Amsterdam? Every high street has a cafe where you can buy any kind of cannabis you want and there are loads of openly advertised cannabis home delivery services. How is that different to legal?
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I believe it is actually legal to have small quantities in Holland but they frown on large amounts, not sure how the cafe's get around that but they do.
You don't requote all the previous posts when you are proved wrong. What you said was "Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago". I pointed out that it was still illegal but tolerated. So, I point out that what you said was not correct, and now I am pedantic. Instead of calling me pedantic you could have said something along the lines of Sorry, I was wrong.
It is not legal to have cannabis in Holland, it is just tolerated and not prosecuted. The coffee shops fall into the same category in that they are illegal but not prosecuted.
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Pedantic as ever Nebs? Have you ever been to Holland and I don't just mean Amsterdam? Every high street has a cafe where you can buy any kind of cannabis you want and there are loads of openly advertised cannabis home delivery services. How is that different to legal? . I believe it is actually legal to have small quantities in Holland but they frown on large amounts, not sure how the cafe's get around that but they do.[/p][/quote]You don't requote all the previous posts when you are proved wrong. What you said was "Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago". I pointed out that it was still illegal but tolerated. So, I point out that what you said was not correct, and now I am pedantic. Instead of calling me pedantic you could have said something along the lines of Sorry, I was wrong. It is not legal to have cannabis in Holland, it is just tolerated and not prosecuted. The coffee shops fall into the same category in that they are illegal but not prosecuted. Nebs
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11:36pm Sat 17 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

Nebs wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Pedantic as ever Nebs? Have you ever been to Holland and I don't just mean Amsterdam? Every high street has a cafe where you can buy any kind of cannabis you want and there are loads of openly advertised cannabis home delivery services. How is that different to legal?
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I believe it is actually legal to have small quantities in Holland but they frown on large amounts, not sure how the cafe's get around that but they do.
You don't requote all the previous posts when you are proved wrong. What you said was "Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago". I pointed out that it was still illegal but tolerated. So, I point out that what you said was not correct, and now I am pedantic. Instead of calling me pedantic you could have said something along the lines of Sorry, I was wrong.
It is not legal to have cannabis in Holland, it is just tolerated and not prosecuted. The coffee shops fall into the same category in that they are illegal but not prosecuted.
the truth will prevail!
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Pedantic as ever Nebs? Have you ever been to Holland and I don't just mean Amsterdam? Every high street has a cafe where you can buy any kind of cannabis you want and there are loads of openly advertised cannabis home delivery services. How is that different to legal? . I believe it is actually legal to have small quantities in Holland but they frown on large amounts, not sure how the cafe's get around that but they do.[/p][/quote]You don't requote all the previous posts when you are proved wrong. What you said was "Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago". I pointed out that it was still illegal but tolerated. So, I point out that what you said was not correct, and now I am pedantic. Instead of calling me pedantic you could have said something along the lines of Sorry, I was wrong. It is not legal to have cannabis in Holland, it is just tolerated and not prosecuted. The coffee shops fall into the same category in that they are illegal but not prosecuted.[/p][/quote]the truth will prevail! asbo industries inc
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10:41am Sun 18 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

the average pro cannabis poster is 99% spin and 1% bs or is that the other way around?
the average pro cannabis poster is 99% spin and 1% bs or is that the other way around? asbo industries inc
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11:03am Sun 18 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

http://www.justice.g
ov/dea/ops/cannabis.
shtml
ho ho.
http://www.justice.g ov/dea/ops/cannabis. shtml ho ho. asbo industries inc
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12:33pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: Rubbish, you will only find that if you do not understand the subject (as you don't) and/or you do not assess your sources properly. The bottom line is that there are thousands of times the number of alcohol casualties than there are cannabis casualties despite the fact that around 7 million people smoke weed in the UK. All the latest surveys say that the majority of people under 65 (critical age, as you know) would support the decriminalisation of cannabis. I would never "recommend" smoking cannabis (another silly question John)but I would agree that it is "up to them" and their "freedom of choice". . Let me tell you a story ... a few years ago friends of ours (he's a chartered surveyor, she's a teacher) lost their youngest child in an accident. Their older children took it badly and went off the rails, raiding Mum and Dad's drinks cabinet and started using drugs. Within a year or so they were getting drunk and then taking one of the family cars out joy-riding (silly phrase) and using lord knows what drugs so the parents offered the kids a solution, they told the kids they could smoke dope in the house if they stopped drinking alcohol and swiping the car, and it worked, the kids calmed down, knuckled down with their school/college work, went on to Uni and now they are both extremely useful members of society, one is a civil servant, the other an accountant, but if they had continued doing what they were doing they would probably have ended up a drunk driving statistic. Fortunately their parents (my generation) knew enough about these things to take what you would probably say was a daft decision, except it wasn't and it probably saved their lives. Open up your mind sir, Colorado and Washington are amongst the most sensible US states. Roll on the revolution!
SO what you are implying is if your kids get out of hand let them have a joint??? ....... You have got to be the biggest idiot on here for thinking that's the right way to bring up a teenager .. The only joint that would get past my front door is one that i'd carve on a Sunday .. There are NO USEFUL members of society that take drugs, NONE WHATSOEVER!
I'd guess you never got past Junior school as you don't seem to understand what the word 'implies' means. I never implied anything, I simply repeated a true story. And no useful members of society use drugs? What planet are you from? And how about alcohol, caffeine and nicotine, some of the most dangerous drugs known to man. Fool.
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Nebs, what I also said was "Every high street (in Holland) has a cafe where you can buy any kind of cannabis you want and there are loads of openly advertised cannabis home delivery services. How is that any different to 'legal'?"
How about answering that question?
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As usual Asbo has nothing useful or constructive to say, just silly comments and insults. And he claims to be a professional! Liar! Do the trolls never learn?
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Rubbish, you will only find that if you do not understand the subject (as you don't) and/or you do not assess your sources properly. The bottom line is that there are thousands of times the number of alcohol casualties than there are cannabis casualties despite the fact that around 7 million people smoke weed in the UK. All the latest surveys say that the majority of people under 65 (critical age, as you know) would support the decriminalisation of cannabis. I would never "recommend" smoking cannabis (another silly question John)but I would agree that it is "up to them" and their "freedom of choice". . Let me tell you a story ... a few years ago friends of ours (he's a chartered surveyor, she's a teacher) lost their youngest child in an accident. Their older children took it badly and went off the rails, raiding Mum and Dad's drinks cabinet and started using drugs. Within a year or so they were getting drunk and then taking one of the family cars out joy-riding (silly phrase) and using lord knows what drugs so the parents offered the kids a solution, they told the kids they could smoke dope in the house if they stopped drinking alcohol and swiping the car, and it worked, the kids calmed down, knuckled down with their school/college work, went on to Uni and now they are both extremely useful members of society, one is a civil servant, the other an accountant, but if they had continued doing what they were doing they would probably have ended up a drunk driving statistic. Fortunately their parents (my generation) knew enough about these things to take what you would probably say was a daft decision, except it wasn't and it probably saved their lives. Open up your mind sir, Colorado and Washington are amongst the most sensible US states. Roll on the revolution![/p][/quote]SO what you are implying is if your kids get out of hand let them have a joint??? ....... You have got to be the biggest idiot on here for thinking that's the right way to bring up a teenager .. The only joint that would get past my front door is one that i'd carve on a Sunday .. There are NO USEFUL members of society that take drugs, NONE WHATSOEVER![/p][/quote]I'd guess you never got past Junior school as you don't seem to understand what the word 'implies' means. I never implied anything, I simply repeated a true story. And no useful members of society use drugs? What planet are you from? And how about alcohol, caffeine and nicotine, some of the most dangerous drugs known to man. Fool. . Nebs, what I also said was "Every high street (in Holland) has a cafe where you can buy any kind of cannabis you want and there are loads of openly advertised cannabis home delivery services. How is that any different to 'legal'?" How about answering that question? . As usual Asbo has nothing useful or constructive to say, just silly comments and insults. And he claims to be a professional! Liar! Do the trolls never learn? Aint it just the truth
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1:27pm Sun 18 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

just remember the slogan of the DEA - tough work, vital mission (under the heading "cannabis eradication") (ho ho).
btw asbo laboratories' cannabis leaf blight formula is moving past test phase. early results look good. coming to a cannabis plantation near you soon....
just remember the slogan of the DEA - tough work, vital mission (under the heading "cannabis eradication") (ho ho). btw asbo laboratories' cannabis leaf blight formula is moving past test phase. early results look good. coming to a cannabis plantation near you soon.... asbo industries inc
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2:22pm Sun 18 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: Rubbish, you will only find that if you do not understand the subject (as you don't) and/or you do not assess your sources properly. The bottom line is that there are thousands of times the number of alcohol casualties than there are cannabis casualties despite the fact that around 7 million people smoke weed in the UK. All the latest surveys say that the majority of people under 65 (critical age, as you know) would support the decriminalisation of cannabis. I would never "recommend" smoking cannabis (another silly question John)but I would agree that it is "up to them" and their "freedom of choice". . Let me tell you a story ... a few years ago friends of ours (he's a chartered surveyor, she's a teacher) lost their youngest child in an accident. Their older children took it badly and went off the rails, raiding Mum and Dad's drinks cabinet and started using drugs. Within a year or so they were getting drunk and then taking one of the family cars out joy-riding (silly phrase) and using lord knows what drugs so the parents offered the kids a solution, they told the kids they could smoke dope in the house if they stopped drinking alcohol and swiping the car, and it worked, the kids calmed down, knuckled down with their school/college work, went on to Uni and now they are both extremely useful members of society, one is a civil servant, the other an accountant, but if they had continued doing what they were doing they would probably have ended up a drunk driving statistic. Fortunately their parents (my generation) knew enough about these things to take what you would probably say was a daft decision, except it wasn't and it probably saved their lives. Open up your mind sir, Colorado and Washington are amongst the most sensible US states. Roll on the revolution!
SO what you are implying is if your kids get out of hand let them have a joint??? ....... You have got to be the biggest idiot on here for thinking that's the right way to bring up a teenager .. The only joint that would get past my front door is one that i'd carve on a Sunday .. There are NO USEFUL members of society that take drugs, NONE WHATSOEVER!
I'd guess you never got past Junior school as you don't seem to understand what the word 'implies' means. I never implied anything, I simply repeated a true story. And no useful members of society use drugs? What planet are you from? And how about alcohol, caffeine and nicotine, some of the most dangerous drugs known to man. Fool.
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Nebs, what I also said was "Every high street (in Holland) has a cafe where you can buy any kind of cannabis you want and there are loads of openly advertised cannabis home delivery services. How is that any different to 'legal'?"
How about answering that question?
.
As usual Asbo has nothing useful or constructive to say, just silly comments and insults. And he claims to be a professional! Liar! Do the trolls never learn?
Yeah you repeated a story about a family who let their kids use drugs rather than help them through their problems. You know I've never grassed someone up in my life but i'd sure as hell snitch that family up to social services and the cops if i was their neighbour.
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Rubbish, you will only find that if you do not understand the subject (as you don't) and/or you do not assess your sources properly. The bottom line is that there are thousands of times the number of alcohol casualties than there are cannabis casualties despite the fact that around 7 million people smoke weed in the UK. All the latest surveys say that the majority of people under 65 (critical age, as you know) would support the decriminalisation of cannabis. I would never "recommend" smoking cannabis (another silly question John)but I would agree that it is "up to them" and their "freedom of choice". . Let me tell you a story ... a few years ago friends of ours (he's a chartered surveyor, she's a teacher) lost their youngest child in an accident. Their older children took it badly and went off the rails, raiding Mum and Dad's drinks cabinet and started using drugs. Within a year or so they were getting drunk and then taking one of the family cars out joy-riding (silly phrase) and using lord knows what drugs so the parents offered the kids a solution, they told the kids they could smoke dope in the house if they stopped drinking alcohol and swiping the car, and it worked, the kids calmed down, knuckled down with their school/college work, went on to Uni and now they are both extremely useful members of society, one is a civil servant, the other an accountant, but if they had continued doing what they were doing they would probably have ended up a drunk driving statistic. Fortunately their parents (my generation) knew enough about these things to take what you would probably say was a daft decision, except it wasn't and it probably saved their lives. Open up your mind sir, Colorado and Washington are amongst the most sensible US states. Roll on the revolution![/p][/quote]SO what you are implying is if your kids get out of hand let them have a joint??? ....... You have got to be the biggest idiot on here for thinking that's the right way to bring up a teenager .. The only joint that would get past my front door is one that i'd carve on a Sunday .. There are NO USEFUL members of society that take drugs, NONE WHATSOEVER![/p][/quote]I'd guess you never got past Junior school as you don't seem to understand what the word 'implies' means. I never implied anything, I simply repeated a true story. And no useful members of society use drugs? What planet are you from? And how about alcohol, caffeine and nicotine, some of the most dangerous drugs known to man. Fool. . Nebs, what I also said was "Every high street (in Holland) has a cafe where you can buy any kind of cannabis you want and there are loads of openly advertised cannabis home delivery services. How is that any different to 'legal'?" How about answering that question? . As usual Asbo has nothing useful or constructive to say, just silly comments and insults. And he claims to be a professional! Liar! Do the trolls never learn?[/p][/quote]Yeah you repeated a story about a family who let their kids use drugs rather than help them through their problems. You know I've never grassed someone up in my life but i'd sure as hell snitch that family up to social services and the cops if i was their neighbour. InTheKnowOk
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2:38pm Sun 18 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

And the worst thing about it is the mother is a frigging teacher !!! No wonder there is no hope for kids of today !!!
And the worst thing about it is the mother is a frigging teacher !!! No wonder there is no hope for kids of today !!! InTheKnowOk
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5:10pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

You claim to be 'in the know', ha ha, but you can't even read plain English. The whole point is that their decision was correct as it did resolve the problem. If they hadn't done what they did their older sons would no doubt have ended up on a mortuary slab just like their younger brother. As you clearly have the brains of a rocking horse and know absolutely NOTHING AT ALL about this subject there is no point whatsoever in even trying to converse with you about this. End of.
You claim to be 'in the know', ha ha, but you can't even read plain English. The whole point is that their decision was correct as it did resolve the problem. If they hadn't done what they did their older sons would no doubt have ended up on a mortuary slab just like their younger brother. As you clearly have the brains of a rocking horse and know absolutely NOTHING AT ALL about this subject there is no point whatsoever in even trying to converse with you about this. End of. Aint it just the truth
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5:21pm Sun 18 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

morally it's an extremely dubious story. funny that. presumably the parents were dope smokers themselves (they're in your circle so that's a given - what was it you said "Almost everyone I know has been smoking since the late sixties"). so we can only assume they were just green lighting their own grubby habit in front of the kids. nice.
grubbiness calleth unto grubbiness
morally it's an extremely dubious story. funny that. presumably the parents were dope smokers themselves (they're in your circle so that's a given - what was it you said "Almost everyone I know has been smoking since the late sixties"). so we can only assume they were just green lighting their own grubby habit in front of the kids. nice. grubbiness calleth unto grubbiness asbo industries inc
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5:29pm Sun 18 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

i feel unclean having read the story. think i need a shower now...
i feel unclean having read the story. think i need a shower now... asbo industries inc
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5:34pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

And assumption is the mother of all **** ups. Nothing morally dubious about it at all, the kids were traumatised by their younger brothers death and went off the rails doing anything they could including things much worse than cannabis and alcohol. Their parents saved their lives and got them back on track, the proof is in the pudding. Don't you trolls ever learn?
And assumption is the mother of all **** ups. Nothing morally dubious about it at all, the kids were traumatised by their younger brothers death and went off the rails doing anything they could including things much worse than cannabis and alcohol. Their parents saved their lives and got them back on track, the proof is in the pudding. Don't you trolls ever learn? Aint it just the truth
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5:40pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

PS Do you have a better solution? How would you have stopped a pair of older teenagers from doing whatever the hell they wanted? The only other way to stop them would have been to lock them up permanently but you can't do that so they compromised, allowed them to do the least harmful things in such a way that they could monitor what they were doing, and it worked! IT WORKED!
PS Do you have a better solution? How would you have stopped a pair of older teenagers from doing whatever the hell they wanted? The only other way to stop them would have been to lock them up permanently but you can't do that so they compromised, allowed them to do the least harmful things in such a way that they could monitor what they were doing, and it worked! IT WORKED! Aint it just the truth
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6:20pm Sun 18 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
And assumption is the mother of all **** ups. Nothing morally dubious about it at all, the kids were traumatised by their younger brothers death and went off the rails doing anything they could including things much worse than cannabis and alcohol. Their parents saved their lives and got them back on track, the proof is in the pudding. Don't you trolls ever learn?
The parents saved their lives ... LMAO ... Classic post !
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: And assumption is the mother of all **** ups. Nothing morally dubious about it at all, the kids were traumatised by their younger brothers death and went off the rails doing anything they could including things much worse than cannabis and alcohol. Their parents saved their lives and got them back on track, the proof is in the pudding. Don't you trolls ever learn?[/p][/quote]The parents saved their lives ... LMAO ... Classic post ! InTheKnowOk
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6:22pm Sun 18 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

asbo industries inc wrote:
i feel unclean having read the story. think i need a shower now...
Yeh I feel the same mate ! ...
[quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: i feel unclean having read the story. think i need a shower now...[/p][/quote]Yeh I feel the same mate ! ... InTheKnowOk
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6:24pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: And assumption is the mother of all **** ups. Nothing morally dubious about it at all, the kids were traumatised by their younger brothers death and went off the rails doing anything they could including things much worse than cannabis and alcohol. Their parents saved their lives and got them back on track, the proof is in the pudding. Don't you trolls ever learn?
The parents saved their lives ... LMAO ... Classic post !
And you are evil, ignorant and sad. I hope things like that never happen to you but I bet you have no children and if you have you will no doubt drive them away with your dumb attitude.
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: And assumption is the mother of all **** ups. Nothing morally dubious about it at all, the kids were traumatised by their younger brothers death and went off the rails doing anything they could including things much worse than cannabis and alcohol. Their parents saved their lives and got them back on track, the proof is in the pudding. Don't you trolls ever learn?[/p][/quote]The parents saved their lives ... LMAO ... Classic post ![/p][/quote]And you are evil, ignorant and sad. I hope things like that never happen to you but I bet you have no children and if you have you will no doubt drive them away with your dumb attitude. Aint it just the truth
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6:32pm Sun 18 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
And assumption is the mother of all **** ups. Nothing morally dubious about it at all, the kids were traumatised by their younger brothers death and went off the rails doing anything they could including things much worse than cannabis and alcohol. Their parents saved their lives and got them back on track, the proof is in the pudding. Don't you trolls ever learn?
Everyone loses someone in their life and if things get that bad they go for something called 'counselling' .. NO 'normal' responsible parent would let their child take drugs to solve a problem .. Nobody except an unfit parent !
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: And assumption is the mother of all **** ups. Nothing morally dubious about it at all, the kids were traumatised by their younger brothers death and went off the rails doing anything they could including things much worse than cannabis and alcohol. Their parents saved their lives and got them back on track, the proof is in the pudding. Don't you trolls ever learn?[/p][/quote]Everyone loses someone in their life and if things get that bad they go for something called 'counselling' .. NO 'normal' responsible parent would let their child take drugs to solve a problem .. Nobody except an unfit parent ! InTheKnowOk
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6:34pm Sun 18 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: And assumption is the mother of all **** ups. Nothing morally dubious about it at all, the kids were traumatised by their younger brothers death and went off the rails doing anything they could including things much worse than cannabis and alcohol. Their parents saved their lives and got them back on track, the proof is in the pudding. Don't you trolls ever learn?
The parents saved their lives ... LMAO ... Classic post !
And you are evil, ignorant and sad. I hope things like that never happen to you but I bet you have no children and if you have you will no doubt drive them away with your dumb attitude.
Wrong on all counts, try harder ....................
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[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: And assumption is the mother of all **** ups. Nothing morally dubious about it at all, the kids were traumatised by their younger brothers death and went off the rails doing anything they could including things much worse than cannabis and alcohol. Their parents saved their lives and got them back on track, the proof is in the pudding. Don't you trolls ever learn?[/p][/quote]The parents saved their lives ... LMAO ... Classic post ![/p][/quote]And you are evil, ignorant and sad. I hope things like that never happen to you but I bet you have no children and if you have you will no doubt drive them away with your dumb attitude.[/p][/quote]Wrong on all counts, try harder .................... . InTheKnowOk
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6:41pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

You lot make me sick, none of you knows a single thing about drugs and yet you come on here preaching your twisted ignorant views. Truth is the average 12 year old knows a LOT more about this subject than any of you lot, partly from their peer group and partly because they are taught about drugs in school. Did you know that the teachers and the Police now tell the kids that cannabis is only a weak drug that won't kill you (which is true) although they also tell them it's best not to use it whilst still young. They tell the truth, why don't you? Ah yes, ignorance. So do a course on it and find out the real truth before you air your stupid ideas on here before you pop down the pub to imbibe one of the most dangerous drugs known to man. Fools.
You lot make me sick, none of you knows a single thing about drugs and yet you come on here preaching your twisted ignorant views. Truth is the average 12 year old knows a LOT more about this subject than any of you lot, partly from their peer group and partly because they are taught about drugs in school. Did you know that the teachers and the Police now tell the kids that cannabis is only a weak drug that won't kill you (which is true) although they also tell them it's best not to use it whilst still young. They tell the truth, why don't you? Ah yes, ignorance. So do a course on it and find out the real truth before you air your stupid ideas on here before you pop down the pub to imbibe one of the most dangerous drugs known to man. Fools. Aint it just the truth
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6:47pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.
Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did. Aint it just the truth
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6:50pm Sun 18 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
You lot make me sick, none of you knows a single thing about drugs and yet you come on here preaching your twisted ignorant views. Truth is the average 12 year old knows a LOT more about this subject than any of you lot, partly from their peer group and partly because they are taught about drugs in school. Did you know that the teachers and the Police now tell the kids that cannabis is only a weak drug that won't kill you (which is true) although they also tell them it's best not to use it whilst still young. They tell the truth, why don't you? Ah yes, ignorance. So do a course on it and find out the real truth before you air your stupid ideas on here before you pop down the pub to imbibe one of the most dangerous drugs known to man. Fools.
Widespread confusion over new laws governing cannabis means many Britons now wrongly believe it is safe to use, doctors have warned.

In fact, it is five times more dangerous than cigarettes and causes cancer, lung disease and asphyxiation, the British Medical Association revealed.

*DOCTORS HAVE WARNED*
*THE BRITISH MEDICAL ASSOCIATION REVEALED*

Now who is the FOOL?
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: You lot make me sick, none of you knows a single thing about drugs and yet you come on here preaching your twisted ignorant views. Truth is the average 12 year old knows a LOT more about this subject than any of you lot, partly from their peer group and partly because they are taught about drugs in school. Did you know that the teachers and the Police now tell the kids that cannabis is only a weak drug that won't kill you (which is true) although they also tell them it's best not to use it whilst still young. They tell the truth, why don't you? Ah yes, ignorance. So do a course on it and find out the real truth before you air your stupid ideas on here before you pop down the pub to imbibe one of the most dangerous drugs known to man. Fools.[/p][/quote]Widespread confusion over new laws governing cannabis means many Britons now wrongly believe it is safe to use, doctors have warned. In fact, it is five times more dangerous than cigarettes and causes cancer, lung disease and asphyxiation, the British Medical Association revealed. *DOCTORS HAVE WARNED* *THE BRITISH MEDICAL ASSOCIATION REVEALED* Now who is the FOOL? InTheKnowOk
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6:53pm Sun 18 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.
A liar now lol, anymore insults you want to throw at me? strange, as in a previous post you were accusing someone of doing the same thing ..
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.[/p][/quote]A liar now lol, anymore insults you want to throw at me? strange, as in a previous post you were accusing someone of doing the same thing .. InTheKnowOk
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6:57pm Sun 18 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.
Yeh, I'll go do a course and ask them if people are down on their luck is it ok to suggest that they take cannabis ... What do you think the answer would be?
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.[/p][/quote]Yeh, I'll go do a course and ask them if people are down on their luck is it ok to suggest that they take cannabis ... What do you think the answer would be? InTheKnowOk
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7:00pm Sun 18 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

According to the BBC, a Canadian government study found that marijuana smoke inhaled through the lungs contains more harmful toxins than tobacco smoke. The study found 20 times more ammonia, which is linked to cancer, and five times more hydrogen cyanide (which can cause heart damage) and nitrogen oxides (which can cause lung damage) in pot smoke. Inhaling anything into your lungs can't be good for them, and with all of these toxic substances in marijuana smoke, it definitely isn't doing any favors.
According to the BBC, a Canadian government study found that marijuana smoke inhaled through the lungs contains more harmful toxins than tobacco smoke. The study found 20 times more ammonia, which is linked to cancer, and five times more hydrogen cyanide (which can cause heart damage) and nitrogen oxides (which can cause lung damage) in pot smoke. Inhaling anything into your lungs can't be good for them, and with all of these toxic substances in marijuana smoke, it definitely isn't doing any favors. InTheKnowOk
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7:05pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

Idiot, go check the research properly, you'll find it is all THEORETICAL, put together by biased idiots like you and not based on actual facts. If it was true where are all the case of illness caused by cannabis? Why aren't our hospitals clogged up with them like they are with alcohol casualties? I don't deny that all drugs can be harmful but the question is how harmful and by every measure cannabis is MAGNITUDES safer than any other drug.
No point conversing with the terminally stupid.
Idiot, go check the research properly, you'll find it is all THEORETICAL, put together by biased idiots like you and not based on actual facts. If it was true where are all the case of illness caused by cannabis? Why aren't our hospitals clogged up with them like they are with alcohol casualties? I don't deny that all drugs can be harmful but the question is how harmful and by every measure cannabis is MAGNITUDES safer than any other drug. No point conversing with the terminally stupid. Aint it just the truth
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7:07pm Sun 18 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.
And you don't understand what a responsible parent is if you think it's ok to let your kids take drugs ... No course on this earth would say any different ! Just like nobody would say it's ok take pot to get over a bereavement !!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.[/p][/quote]And you don't understand what a responsible parent is if you think it's ok to let your kids take drugs ... No course on this earth would say any different ! Just like nobody would say it's ok take pot to get over a bereavement !!!!!! InTheKnowOk
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7:12pm Sun 18 Nov 12

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InTheKnowOk wrote:
According to the BBC, a Canadian government study found that marijuana smoke inhaled through the lungs contains more harmful toxins than tobacco smoke. The study found 20 times more ammonia, which is linked to cancer, and five times more hydrogen cyanide (which can cause heart damage) and nitrogen oxides (which can cause lung damage) in pot smoke. Inhaling anything into your lungs can't be good for them, and with all of these toxic substances in marijuana smoke, it definitely isn't doing any favors.
One in five or six NHS beds is taken by someone who is there because of alcohol. People have been smoking cannabis in the UK for over forty years now SO WHERE ARE THE CANNABIS CASUALTIES???? SHOW ME!!! Instead of quoting all this pseudo research based on theories and averages.
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: According to the BBC, a Canadian government study found that marijuana smoke inhaled through the lungs contains more harmful toxins than tobacco smoke. The study found 20 times more ammonia, which is linked to cancer, and five times more hydrogen cyanide (which can cause heart damage) and nitrogen oxides (which can cause lung damage) in pot smoke. Inhaling anything into your lungs can't be good for them, and with all of these toxic substances in marijuana smoke, it definitely isn't doing any favors.[/p][/quote]One in five or six NHS beds is taken by someone who is there because of alcohol. People have been smoking cannabis in the UK for over forty years now SO WHERE ARE THE CANNABIS CASUALTIES???? SHOW ME!!! Instead of quoting all this pseudo research based on theories and averages. Aint it just the truth
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7:12pm Sun 18 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Idiot, go check the research properly, you'll find it is all THEORETICAL, put together by biased idiots like you and not based on actual facts. If it was true where are all the case of illness caused by cannabis? Why aren't our hospitals clogged up with them like they are with alcohol casualties? I don't deny that all drugs can be harmful but the question is how harmful and by every measure cannabis is MAGNITUDES safer than any other drug.
No point conversing with the terminally stupid.
'Idiot and terminally stupid' .... wooooo .... more insults .... Maybe you need to take up anger management courses as well?
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Idiot, go check the research properly, you'll find it is all THEORETICAL, put together by biased idiots like you and not based on actual facts. If it was true where are all the case of illness caused by cannabis? Why aren't our hospitals clogged up with them like they are with alcohol casualties? I don't deny that all drugs can be harmful but the question is how harmful and by every measure cannabis is MAGNITUDES safer than any other drug. No point conversing with the terminally stupid.[/p][/quote]'Idiot and terminally stupid' .... wooooo .... more insults .... Maybe you need to take up anger management courses as well? InTheKnowOk
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7:18pm Sun 18 Nov 12

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InTheKnowOk wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.
And you don't understand what a responsible parent is if you think it's ok to let your kids take drugs ... No course on this earth would say any different ! Just like nobody would say it's ok take pot to get over a bereavement !!!!!!
No sensible parent wants their kids to take any drugs, which includes alcohol and nicotine, but if they are going to do it whatever you say then you have to take a different strategy. What don't you understand about that? You are twisting my meaning and missing the point completely therefore you must be thick. Best go back to your shelf stacking at Tesco sunshine.
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.[/p][/quote]And you don't understand what a responsible parent is if you think it's ok to let your kids take drugs ... No course on this earth would say any different ! Just like nobody would say it's ok take pot to get over a bereavement !!!!!![/p][/quote]No sensible parent wants their kids to take any drugs, which includes alcohol and nicotine, but if they are going to do it whatever you say then you have to take a different strategy. What don't you understand about that? You are twisting my meaning and missing the point completely therefore you must be thick. Best go back to your shelf stacking at Tesco sunshine. Aint it just the truth
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7:25pm Sun 18 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.
And you don't understand what a responsible parent is if you think it's ok to let your kids take drugs ... No course on this earth would say any different ! Just like nobody would say it's ok take pot to get over a bereavement !!!!!!
No sensible parent wants their kids to take any drugs, which includes alcohol and nicotine, but if they are going to do it whatever you say then you have to take a different strategy. What don't you understand about that? You are twisting my meaning and missing the point completely therefore you must be thick. Best go back to your shelf stacking at Tesco sunshine.
'Thick shelf stacker' .... I'm sure Tesco employees would be very irate to read your nasty little comment, but do carry on as you are REALLY showing your true colours now lol
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.[/p][/quote]And you don't understand what a responsible parent is if you think it's ok to let your kids take drugs ... No course on this earth would say any different ! Just like nobody would say it's ok take pot to get over a bereavement !!!!!![/p][/quote]No sensible parent wants their kids to take any drugs, which includes alcohol and nicotine, but if they are going to do it whatever you say then you have to take a different strategy. What don't you understand about that? You are twisting my meaning and missing the point completely therefore you must be thick. Best go back to your shelf stacking at Tesco sunshine.[/p][/quote]'Thick shelf stacker' .... I'm sure Tesco employees would be very irate to read your nasty little comment, but do carry on as you are REALLY showing your true colours now lol InTheKnowOk
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7:29pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

Most of the parents I know, most of whom are very clever professionals, would rather their kids had the odd smoke of cannabis than drink alcohol for the simple reason that they are about a zillion times less likely to come to harm after a smoke than if they went drinking. Cannabis smokers do not lose control of themselves or spew up all over the place or get in fights or die from overdoses and that is an undeniable fact. If you don't believe that go ask any Policeman or Doctor. Having said that, most of these parents do not actively encourage smoking and certainly don't want to see their kids actually doing it, but there are a couple of cases where the lesser evil has been to allow them to do it openly (such as the case I mentioned) which does at least mean that the parents can see exactly what the kids are doing and exert some control over it. If you can't understand that I do not believe you are a parent.
Most of the parents I know, most of whom are very clever professionals, would rather their kids had the odd smoke of cannabis than drink alcohol for the simple reason that they are about a zillion times less likely to come to harm after a smoke than if they went drinking. Cannabis smokers do not lose control of themselves or spew up all over the place or get in fights or die from overdoses and that is an undeniable fact. If you don't believe that go ask any Policeman or Doctor. Having said that, most of these parents do not actively encourage smoking and certainly don't want to see their kids actually doing it, but there are a couple of cases where the lesser evil has been to allow them to do it openly (such as the case I mentioned) which does at least mean that the parents can see exactly what the kids are doing and exert some control over it. If you can't understand that I do not believe you are a parent. Aint it just the truth
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7:31pm Sun 18 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.
And you don't understand what a responsible parent is if you think it's ok to let your kids take drugs ... No course on this earth would say any different ! Just like nobody would say it's ok take pot to get over a bereavement !!!!!!
No sensible parent wants their kids to take any drugs, which includes alcohol and nicotine, but if they are going to do it whatever you say then you have to take a different strategy. What don't you understand about that? You are twisting my meaning and missing the point completely therefore you must be thick. Best go back to your shelf stacking at Tesco sunshine.
whatever floats your gin palace. we come full circle back to the weak gene. it's obviously more prevalent in some circles that others..eh truthy!!
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.[/p][/quote]And you don't understand what a responsible parent is if you think it's ok to let your kids take drugs ... No course on this earth would say any different ! Just like nobody would say it's ok take pot to get over a bereavement !!!!!![/p][/quote]No sensible parent wants their kids to take any drugs, which includes alcohol and nicotine, but if they are going to do it whatever you say then you have to take a different strategy. What don't you understand about that? You are twisting my meaning and missing the point completely therefore you must be thick. Best go back to your shelf stacking at Tesco sunshine.[/p][/quote]whatever floats your gin palace. we come full circle back to the weak gene. it's obviously more prevalent in some circles that others..eh truthy!! asbo industries inc
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7:34pm Sun 18 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

the old iq shrinker. now we know where you went wrong truthy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/health-1937245
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the old iq shrinker. now we know where you went wrong truthy. http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/health-1937245 6 asbo industries inc
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7:40pm Sun 18 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Most of the parents I know, most of whom are very clever professionals, would rather their kids had the odd smoke of cannabis than drink alcohol for the simple reason that they are about a zillion times less likely to come to harm after a smoke than if they went drinking. Cannabis smokers do not lose control of themselves or spew up all over the place or get in fights or die from overdoses and that is an undeniable fact. If you don't believe that go ask any Policeman or Doctor. Having said that, most of these parents do not actively encourage smoking and certainly don't want to see their kids actually doing it, but there are a couple of cases where the lesser evil has been to allow them to do it openly (such as the case I mentioned) which does at least mean that the parents can see exactly what the kids are doing and exert some control over it. If you can't understand that I do not believe you are a parent.
evil...interesting choice of word in reference to cannabis. a future copy and paste
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Most of the parents I know, most of whom are very clever professionals, would rather their kids had the odd smoke of cannabis than drink alcohol for the simple reason that they are about a zillion times less likely to come to harm after a smoke than if they went drinking. Cannabis smokers do not lose control of themselves or spew up all over the place or get in fights or die from overdoses and that is an undeniable fact. If you don't believe that go ask any Policeman or Doctor. Having said that, most of these parents do not actively encourage smoking and certainly don't want to see their kids actually doing it, but there are a couple of cases where the lesser evil has been to allow them to do it openly (such as the case I mentioned) which does at least mean that the parents can see exactly what the kids are doing and exert some control over it. If you can't understand that I do not believe you are a parent.[/p][/quote]evil...interesting choice of word in reference to cannabis. a future copy and paste asbo industries inc
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7:41pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.
And you don't understand what a responsible parent is if you think it's ok to let your kids take drugs ... No course on this earth would say any different ! Just like nobody would say it's ok take pot to get over a bereavement !!!!!!
No sensible parent wants their kids to take any drugs, which includes alcohol and nicotine, but if they are going to do it whatever you say then you have to take a different strategy. What don't you understand about that? You are twisting my meaning and missing the point completely therefore you must be thick. Best go back to your shelf stacking at Tesco sunshine.
'Thick shelf stacker' .... I'm sure Tesco employees would be very irate to read your nasty little comment, but do carry on as you are REALLY showing your true colours now lol
It's simple, I've always found that clever sensible people (mostly professionals with degrees and doctorates etc) understand these things whereas it's the thick-as-two-short-p
lanks council house benefit-claiming scum who think there's nothing wrong with getting sloshed but all illegal drugs must be evil. So which camp are you?
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Asbo, you have nothing worthwhile to contribute so get back in your box.
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.[/p][/quote]And you don't understand what a responsible parent is if you think it's ok to let your kids take drugs ... No course on this earth would say any different ! Just like nobody would say it's ok take pot to get over a bereavement !!!!!![/p][/quote]No sensible parent wants their kids to take any drugs, which includes alcohol and nicotine, but if they are going to do it whatever you say then you have to take a different strategy. What don't you understand about that? You are twisting my meaning and missing the point completely therefore you must be thick. Best go back to your shelf stacking at Tesco sunshine.[/p][/quote]'Thick shelf stacker' .... I'm sure Tesco employees would be very irate to read your nasty little comment, but do carry on as you are REALLY showing your true colours now lol[/p][/quote]It's simple, I've always found that clever sensible people (mostly professionals with degrees and doctorates etc) understand these things whereas it's the thick-as-two-short-p lanks council house benefit-claiming scum who think there's nothing wrong with getting sloshed but all illegal drugs must be evil. So which camp are you? . Asbo, you have nothing worthwhile to contribute so get back in your box. Aint it just the truth
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7:41pm Sun 18 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Most of the parents I know, most of whom are very clever professionals, would rather their kids had the odd smoke of cannabis than drink alcohol for the simple reason that they are about a zillion times less likely to come to harm after a smoke than if they went drinking. Cannabis smokers do not lose control of themselves or spew up all over the place or get in fights or die from overdoses and that is an undeniable fact. If you don't believe that go ask any Policeman or Doctor. Having said that, most of these parents do not actively encourage smoking and certainly don't want to see their kids actually doing it, but there are a couple of cases where the lesser evil has been to allow them to do it openly (such as the case I mentioned) which does at least mean that the parents can see exactly what the kids are doing and exert some control over it. If you can't understand that I do not believe you are a parent.
Deluded beyond belief !
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Most of the parents I know, most of whom are very clever professionals, would rather their kids had the odd smoke of cannabis than drink alcohol for the simple reason that they are about a zillion times less likely to come to harm after a smoke than if they went drinking. Cannabis smokers do not lose control of themselves or spew up all over the place or get in fights or die from overdoses and that is an undeniable fact. If you don't believe that go ask any Policeman or Doctor. Having said that, most of these parents do not actively encourage smoking and certainly don't want to see their kids actually doing it, but there are a couple of cases where the lesser evil has been to allow them to do it openly (such as the case I mentioned) which does at least mean that the parents can see exactly what the kids are doing and exert some control over it. If you can't understand that I do not believe you are a parent.[/p][/quote]Deluded beyond belief ! InTheKnowOk
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7:50pm Sun 18 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Most of the parents I know, most of whom are very clever professionals, would rather their kids had the odd smoke of cannabis than drink alcohol for the simple reason that they are about a zillion times less likely to come to harm after a smoke than if they went drinking. Cannabis smokers do not lose control of themselves or spew up all over the place or get in fights or die from overdoses and that is an undeniable fact. If you don't believe that go ask any Policeman or Doctor. Having said that, most of these parents do not actively encourage smoking and certainly don't want to see their kids actually doing it, but there are a couple of cases where the lesser evil has been to allow them to do it openly (such as the case I mentioned) which does at least mean that the parents can see exactly what the kids are doing and exert some control over it. If you can't understand that I do not believe you are a parent.
are the parents skinning up alongside the kids? draw the curtains son...time to get off our keks and forget our troubles. quality
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Most of the parents I know, most of whom are very clever professionals, would rather their kids had the odd smoke of cannabis than drink alcohol for the simple reason that they are about a zillion times less likely to come to harm after a smoke than if they went drinking. Cannabis smokers do not lose control of themselves or spew up all over the place or get in fights or die from overdoses and that is an undeniable fact. If you don't believe that go ask any Policeman or Doctor. Having said that, most of these parents do not actively encourage smoking and certainly don't want to see their kids actually doing it, but there are a couple of cases where the lesser evil has been to allow them to do it openly (such as the case I mentioned) which does at least mean that the parents can see exactly what the kids are doing and exert some control over it. If you can't understand that I do not believe you are a parent.[/p][/quote]are the parents skinning up alongside the kids? draw the curtains son...time to get off our keks and forget our troubles. quality asbo industries inc
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7:50pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: Most of the parents I know, most of whom are very clever professionals, would rather their kids had the odd smoke of cannabis than drink alcohol for the simple reason that they are about a zillion times less likely to come to harm after a smoke than if they went drinking. Cannabis smokers do not lose control of themselves or spew up all over the place or get in fights or die from overdoses and that is an undeniable fact. If you don't believe that go ask any Policeman or Doctor. Having said that, most of these parents do not actively encourage smoking and certainly don't want to see their kids actually doing it, but there are a couple of cases where the lesser evil has been to allow them to do it openly (such as the case I mentioned) which does at least mean that the parents can see exactly what the kids are doing and exert some control over it. If you can't understand that I do not believe you are a parent.
Deluded beyond belief !
Brainless beyond belief.
Being a good parent means being flexible and not denying reality. You are NO parent.
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Most of the parents I know, most of whom are very clever professionals, would rather their kids had the odd smoke of cannabis than drink alcohol for the simple reason that they are about a zillion times less likely to come to harm after a smoke than if they went drinking. Cannabis smokers do not lose control of themselves or spew up all over the place or get in fights or die from overdoses and that is an undeniable fact. If you don't believe that go ask any Policeman or Doctor. Having said that, most of these parents do not actively encourage smoking and certainly don't want to see their kids actually doing it, but there are a couple of cases where the lesser evil has been to allow them to do it openly (such as the case I mentioned) which does at least mean that the parents can see exactly what the kids are doing and exert some control over it. If you can't understand that I do not believe you are a parent.[/p][/quote]Deluded beyond belief ![/p][/quote]Brainless beyond belief. Being a good parent means being flexible and not denying reality. You are NO parent. Aint it just the truth
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7:54pm Sun 18 Nov 12

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...and I obviously hit the nail on the head when I called you a Tesco shelf stacker. Sometimes the truth hurts!
...and I obviously hit the nail on the head when I called you a Tesco shelf stacker. Sometimes the truth hurts! Aint it just the truth
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8:07pm Sun 18 Nov 12

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One last try.
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Turn this on it's head, if my friends kids had taken to getting sloshed on alcohol every night so the parents let them drink at home rather than round a friends house - which gave them some influence on the situation - you wouldn't bat an eyelid would you? True? (remember one was 18 so alcohol was legal).
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Now consider, sensibly if you can, that they WERE getting sloshed most nights but they were also driving anything they could get their hands on and doing all sorts of other drugs too. Remember one of my friends is a teacher so they knew the signs as well having all the 60s experience.
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Now consider this, every other drug is provably MUCH more dangerous than cannabis and that includes alcohol which is one of the most dangerous drugs on earth. Starting to see the light yet? Any teenager could explain it to you.
One last try. . Turn this on it's head, if my friends kids had taken to getting sloshed on alcohol every night so the parents let them drink at home rather than round a friends house - which gave them some influence on the situation - you wouldn't bat an eyelid would you? True? (remember one was 18 so alcohol was legal). . Now consider, sensibly if you can, that they WERE getting sloshed most nights but they were also driving anything they could get their hands on and doing all sorts of other drugs too. Remember one of my friends is a teacher so they knew the signs as well having all the 60s experience. . Now consider this, every other drug is provably MUCH more dangerous than cannabis and that includes alcohol which is one of the most dangerous drugs on earth. Starting to see the light yet? Any teenager could explain it to you. Aint it just the truth
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8:09pm Sun 18 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=ZrX7J9wN8
Mk
http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=ZrX7J9wN8 Mk asbo industries inc
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8:10pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

One last try.
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Turn this on it's head, if my friends kids had taken to getting sloshed on alcohol every night so the parents let them drink at home rather than round a friends house - which gave them some influence on the situation - you wouldn't bat an eyelid would you? True? (remember one was 18 so alcohol was legal).
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Now consider, sensibly if you can, that they WERE getting sloshed most nights but they were also driving anything they could get their hands on and doing all sorts of other drugs too. Remember one of my friends is a teacher so they knew the signs as well having all the 60s experience.
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Now consider this, every other drug is provably MUCH more dangerous than cannabis and that includes alcohol which is one of the most dangerous drugs on earth. Starting to see the light yet? Any teenager could explain it to you.
One last try. . Turn this on it's head, if my friends kids had taken to getting sloshed on alcohol every night so the parents let them drink at home rather than round a friends house - which gave them some influence on the situation - you wouldn't bat an eyelid would you? True? (remember one was 18 so alcohol was legal). . Now consider, sensibly if you can, that they WERE getting sloshed most nights but they were also driving anything they could get their hands on and doing all sorts of other drugs too. Remember one of my friends is a teacher so they knew the signs as well having all the 60s experience. . Now consider this, every other drug is provably MUCH more dangerous than cannabis and that includes alcohol which is one of the most dangerous drugs on earth. Starting to see the light yet? Any teenager could explain it to you. Aint it just the truth
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8:13pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

I don't click on links posted by people with anti social behaviour.
I don't click on links posted by people with anti social behaviour. Aint it just the truth
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8:18pm Sun 18 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
...and I obviously hit the nail on the head when I called you a Tesco shelf stacker. Sometimes the truth hurts!
I'm no shelf stacker, but feel free to try again, although what my job has to do with the topic in question is of no consequence.
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: ...and I obviously hit the nail on the head when I called you a Tesco shelf stacker. Sometimes the truth hurts![/p][/quote]I'm no shelf stacker, but feel free to try again, although what my job has to do with the topic in question is of no consequence. InTheKnowOk
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8:22pm Sun 18 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
One last try.
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Turn this on it's head, if my friends kids had taken to getting sloshed on alcohol every night so the parents let them drink at home rather than round a friends house - which gave them some influence on the situation - you wouldn't bat an eyelid would you? True? (remember one was 18 so alcohol was legal).
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Now consider, sensibly if you can, that they WERE getting sloshed most nights but they were also driving anything they could get their hands on and doing all sorts of other drugs too. Remember one of my friends is a teacher so they knew the signs as well having all the 60s experience.
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Now consider this, every other drug is provably MUCH more dangerous than cannabis and that includes alcohol which is one of the most dangerous drugs on earth. Starting to see the light yet? Any teenager could explain it to you.
Listen up, I don't agree to kids getting sloshed on drink, where did I say I did? ...
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: One last try. . Turn this on it's head, if my friends kids had taken to getting sloshed on alcohol every night so the parents let them drink at home rather than round a friends house - which gave them some influence on the situation - you wouldn't bat an eyelid would you? True? (remember one was 18 so alcohol was legal). . Now consider, sensibly if you can, that they WERE getting sloshed most nights but they were also driving anything they could get their hands on and doing all sorts of other drugs too. Remember one of my friends is a teacher so they knew the signs as well having all the 60s experience. . Now consider this, every other drug is provably MUCH more dangerous than cannabis and that includes alcohol which is one of the most dangerous drugs on earth. Starting to see the light yet? Any teenager could explain it to you.[/p][/quote]Listen up, I don't agree to kids getting sloshed on drink, where did I say I did? ... InTheKnowOk
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8:30pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

It's your intellect and your ability to assess the facts that are being questioned. I would guess, seriously, that you were an adult by the mid sixties which means you are probably retired (like me) but too old to have had any direct experience of cannabis and therefore unlikely to have taken any great interest in the subject (as proven by your posts).
It's your intellect and your ability to assess the facts that are being questioned. I would guess, seriously, that you were an adult by the mid sixties which means you are probably retired (like me) but too old to have had any direct experience of cannabis and therefore unlikely to have taken any great interest in the subject (as proven by your posts). Aint it just the truth
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8:37pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

"Listen up, I don't agree to kids getting sloshed on drink, where did I say I did?"
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So you are a total prude who would have abandoned my friends kids to the streets? (cos if you think they would have gone to counselling you are living in cloud cuckoo land, they would have left home first).
"Listen up, I don't agree to kids getting sloshed on drink, where did I say I did?" . So you are a total prude who would have abandoned my friends kids to the streets? (cos if you think they would have gone to counselling you are living in cloud cuckoo land, they would have left home first). Aint it just the truth
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8:43pm Sun 18 Nov 12

InTheKnowOk says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
"Listen up, I don't agree to kids getting sloshed on drink, where did I say I did?"
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So you are a total prude who would have abandoned my friends kids to the streets? (cos if you think they would have gone to counselling you are living in cloud cuckoo land, they would have left home first).
You're surmising again ..
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: "Listen up, I don't agree to kids getting sloshed on drink, where did I say I did?" . So you are a total prude who would have abandoned my friends kids to the streets? (cos if you think they would have gone to counselling you are living in cloud cuckoo land, they would have left home first).[/p][/quote]You're surmising again .. InTheKnowOk
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8:55pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

You are just avoiding the issue. G'night.
You are just avoiding the issue. G'night. Aint it just the truth
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10:15pm Sun 18 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

i got a spare roll of andrex for you to write your cannabis prescriptions on truthy. bottom wiping duties will never be more satisfying
i got a spare roll of andrex for you to write your cannabis prescriptions on truthy. bottom wiping duties will never be more satisfying asbo industries inc
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10:25pm Sun 18 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

a cannabis dependency is a seamless replacement for a bereaved relative
a cannabis dependency is a seamless replacement for a bereaved relative asbo industries inc
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10:51pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

Still incapable of posting sensible comments ASBO? Next time you get 'removed' you ought to change your name to ASWOS, anti social waste of space.
Still incapable of posting sensible comments ASBO? Next time you get 'removed' you ought to change your name to ASWOS, anti social waste of space. Aint it just the truth
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12:07pm Mon 19 Nov 12

KonArtist says...

Im not a really a cannabis smoker. Infact I dont really take that much substances. I have taken most drugs though, and with my experiences, alcohol with is legal, is the most dangerous one. But I do agree that cannabis should be legalised, its a harmless drug. Id rather someone driving towards me after smoking a joint, then someone driving towards after consuming 5 or 6 pints of beer. If alcohol was invented today, it would be a class A drug. Simple as that. Oh yeah, my choice of drugs are alcohol and cocaine!
Im not a really a cannabis smoker. Infact I dont really take that much substances. I have taken most drugs though, and with my experiences, alcohol with is legal, is the most dangerous one. But I do agree that cannabis should be legalised, its a harmless drug. Id rather someone driving towards me after smoking a joint, then someone driving towards after consuming 5 or 6 pints of beer. If alcohol was invented today, it would be a class A drug. Simple as that. Oh yeah, my choice of drugs are alcohol and cocaine! KonArtist
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12:25pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

Get back into your hospital bed Wilko!
Get back into your hospital bed Wilko! Aint it just the truth
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7:36pm Mon 19 Nov 12

SCSUFC says...

John T Pharro wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
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Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
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It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
Surprised at this from you. Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless.
Are you seriously suggesting you would encourage it's use?
Would hate to think drivers are on cannabis as much as alcohol.
Can i just say, and I think most people agree, that alcohol is the real gateway drug.
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]Surprised at this from you. Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless. Are you seriously suggesting you would encourage it's use? Would hate to think drivers are on cannabis as much as alcohol.[/p][/quote]Can i just say, and I think most people agree, that alcohol is the real gateway drug. SCSUFC
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9:21pm Mon 19 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

a self justifier's circle jerk
a self justifier's circle jerk asbo industries inc
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9:40pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

SCSUFC wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!
Surprised at this from you. Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless. Are you seriously suggesting you would encourage it's use? Would hate to think drivers are on cannabis as much as alcohol.
Can i just say, and I think most people agree, that alcohol is the real gateway drug.
Agreed.
[quote][p][bold]SCSUFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on![/p][/quote]Surprised at this from you. Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless. Are you seriously suggesting you would encourage it's use? Would hate to think drivers are on cannabis as much as alcohol.[/p][/quote]Can i just say, and I think most people agree, that alcohol is the real gateway drug.[/p][/quote]Agreed. Aint it just the truth
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4:08pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Nebs says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote: Rubbish, you will only find that if you do not understand the subject (as you don't) and/or you do not assess your sources properly. The bottom line is that there are thousands of times the number of alcohol casualties than there are cannabis casualties despite the fact that around 7 million people smoke weed in the UK. All the latest surveys say that the majority of people under 65 (critical age, as you know) would support the decriminalisation of cannabis. I would never "recommend" smoking cannabis (another silly question John)but I would agree that it is "up to them" and their "freedom of choice". . Let me tell you a story ... a few years ago friends of ours (he's a chartered surveyor, she's a teacher) lost their youngest child in an accident. Their older children took it badly and went off the rails, raiding Mum and Dad's drinks cabinet and started using drugs. Within a year or so they were getting drunk and then taking one of the family cars out joy-riding (silly phrase) and using lord knows what drugs so the parents offered the kids a solution, they told the kids they could smoke dope in the house if they stopped drinking alcohol and swiping the car, and it worked, the kids calmed down, knuckled down with their school/college work, went on to Uni and now they are both extremely useful members of society, one is a civil servant, the other an accountant, but if they had continued doing what they were doing they would probably have ended up a drunk driving statistic. Fortunately their parents (my generation) knew enough about these things to take what you would probably say was a daft decision, except it wasn't and it probably saved their lives. Open up your mind sir, Colorado and Washington are amongst the most sensible US states. Roll on the revolution!
SO what you are implying is if your kids get out of hand let them have a joint??? ....... You have got to be the biggest idiot on here for thinking that's the right way to bring up a teenager .. The only joint that would get past my front door is one that i'd carve on a Sunday .. There are NO USEFUL members of society that take drugs, NONE WHATSOEVER!
I'd guess you never got past Junior school as you don't seem to understand what the word 'implies' means. I never implied anything, I simply repeated a true story. And no useful members of society use drugs? What planet are you from? And how about alcohol, caffeine and nicotine, some of the most dangerous drugs known to man. Fool.
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Nebs, what I also said was "Every high street (in Holland) has a cafe where you can buy any kind of cannabis you want and there are loads of openly advertised cannabis home delivery services. How is that any different to 'legal'?"
How about answering that question?
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As usual Asbo has nothing useful or constructive to say, just silly comments and insults. And he claims to be a professional! Liar! Do the trolls never learn?
Cannabis being for sale and consumed in cafes in small quantities without fear of prosecution is not because it is legal. It is because the Dutch government decided that no action would be taken provided strict guidelines were followed, those guidelines being the location and quantity.It is still illegal, but small amounts in controlled environments are not prosecuted. Buy some from a bloke on a street corner and you still risk prosecution if caught, as does the bloke who sold it to you.
Similar decisions are made the world over, for example in the UK it is an offence to be drunk and disorderly but if everyone in the UK who was drunk and disorderly on a Saturday night got arrested and charged then it would clog up the court system so action is only taken in the more serious cases.
I hope that clears matters up for you, and answers your question.
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Rubbish, you will only find that if you do not understand the subject (as you don't) and/or you do not assess your sources properly. The bottom line is that there are thousands of times the number of alcohol casualties than there are cannabis casualties despite the fact that around 7 million people smoke weed in the UK. All the latest surveys say that the majority of people under 65 (critical age, as you know) would support the decriminalisation of cannabis. I would never "recommend" smoking cannabis (another silly question John)but I would agree that it is "up to them" and their "freedom of choice". . Let me tell you a story ... a few years ago friends of ours (he's a chartered surveyor, she's a teacher) lost their youngest child in an accident. Their older children took it badly and went off the rails, raiding Mum and Dad's drinks cabinet and started using drugs. Within a year or so they were getting drunk and then taking one of the family cars out joy-riding (silly phrase) and using lord knows what drugs so the parents offered the kids a solution, they told the kids they could smoke dope in the house if they stopped drinking alcohol and swiping the car, and it worked, the kids calmed down, knuckled down with their school/college work, went on to Uni and now they are both extremely useful members of society, one is a civil servant, the other an accountant, but if they had continued doing what they were doing they would probably have ended up a drunk driving statistic. Fortunately their parents (my generation) knew enough about these things to take what you would probably say was a daft decision, except it wasn't and it probably saved their lives. Open up your mind sir, Colorado and Washington are amongst the most sensible US states. Roll on the revolution![/p][/quote]SO what you are implying is if your kids get out of hand let them have a joint??? ....... You have got to be the biggest idiot on here for thinking that's the right way to bring up a teenager .. The only joint that would get past my front door is one that i'd carve on a Sunday .. There are NO USEFUL members of society that take drugs, NONE WHATSOEVER![/p][/quote]I'd guess you never got past Junior school as you don't seem to understand what the word 'implies' means. I never implied anything, I simply repeated a true story. And no useful members of society use drugs? What planet are you from? And how about alcohol, caffeine and nicotine, some of the most dangerous drugs known to man. Fool. . Nebs, what I also said was "Every high street (in Holland) has a cafe where you can buy any kind of cannabis you want and there are loads of openly advertised cannabis home delivery services. How is that any different to 'legal'?" How about answering that question? . As usual Asbo has nothing useful or constructive to say, just silly comments and insults. And he claims to be a professional! Liar! Do the trolls never learn?[/p][/quote]Cannabis being for sale and consumed in cafes in small quantities without fear of prosecution is not because it is legal. It is because the Dutch government decided that no action would be taken provided strict guidelines were followed, those guidelines being the location and quantity.It is still illegal, but small amounts in controlled environments are not prosecuted. Buy some from a bloke on a street corner and you still risk prosecution if caught, as does the bloke who sold it to you. Similar decisions are made the world over, for example in the UK it is an offence to be drunk and disorderly but if everyone in the UK who was drunk and disorderly on a Saturday night got arrested and charged then it would clog up the court system so action is only taken in the more serious cases. I hope that clears matters up for you, and answers your question. Nebs
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5:04pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Aint it just the truth says...

Pedantic comment, as I said before. You can also buy cannabis from home delivery services who take your order on the phone and deliver it anywhere you want. Why buy on a street corner when every Dutch town I have been to has a cannabis cafe on the High Street and there are adverts everywhere for the home delivery sevices. By any normal standard that is no different to being legal!
Pedantic comment, as I said before. You can also buy cannabis from home delivery services who take your order on the phone and deliver it anywhere you want. Why buy on a street corner when every Dutch town I have been to has a cannabis cafe on the High Street and there are adverts everywhere for the home delivery sevices. By any normal standard that is no different to being legal! Aint it just the truth
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5:58pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Lastlaugh... says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Hello hello the troll from Crays Hill who knows nothing whatsoever about this subject has joined us. Do you never learn?
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Cannabis is legal, decriminalised, allowed for 'medicinal use' or tolerated in Colorado, Washington, 22 other states, most of Australia, Canada, Portugal, Switzerland, Holland etc etc etc.
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The law is not always right, not so long ago we could call travellers whatever we wanted couldn't we LL, was the law right then?
BUT it isn't here, so you will have to go on hiding your stash up...on your person LOL.

The laws the law.. old funny walk
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Hello hello the troll from Crays Hill who knows nothing whatsoever about this subject has joined us. Do you never learn? . Cannabis is legal, decriminalised, allowed for 'medicinal use' or tolerated in Colorado, Washington, 22 other states, most of Australia, Canada, Portugal, Switzerland, Holland etc etc etc. . The law is not always right, not so long ago we could call travellers whatever we wanted couldn't we LL, was the law right then?[/p][/quote]BUT it isn't here, so you will have to go on hiding your stash up...on your person LOL. The laws the law.. old funny walk Lastlaugh...
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6:07pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Lastlaugh... says...

asbo industries inc wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
I'm not wasting my time with brainless trolss any more but mark my words, if you go over the top again I will have you removed, again. Got that?
but i thought you never complained about anyone on this website. the truth prevailing again?
Yes he has boasted of that time and again even while he is reporting people...
[quote][p][bold]asbo industries inc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: I'm not wasting my time with brainless trolss any more but mark my words, if you go over the top again I will have you removed, again. Got that?[/p][/quote]but i thought you never complained about anyone on this website. the truth prevailing again?[/p][/quote]Yes he has boasted of that time and again even while he is reporting people... Lastlaugh...
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6:35pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Lastlaugh... says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Idiot, go check the research properly, you'll find it is all THEORETICAL, put together by biased idiots like you and not based on actual facts. If it was true where are all the case of illness caused by cannabis? Why aren't our hospitals clogged up with them like they are with alcohol casualties? I don't deny that all drugs can be harmful but the question is how harmful and by every measure cannabis is MAGNITUDES safer than any other drug.
No point conversing with the terminally stupid.
'Idiot and terminally stupid' .... wooooo .... more insults .... Maybe you need to take up anger management courses as well?
Report the insulting swine! LOL
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Idiot, go check the research properly, you'll find it is all THEORETICAL, put together by biased idiots like you and not based on actual facts. If it was true where are all the case of illness caused by cannabis? Why aren't our hospitals clogged up with them like they are with alcohol casualties? I don't deny that all drugs can be harmful but the question is how harmful and by every measure cannabis is MAGNITUDES safer than any other drug. No point conversing with the terminally stupid.[/p][/quote]'Idiot and terminally stupid' .... wooooo .... more insults .... Maybe you need to take up anger management courses as well?[/p][/quote]Report the insulting swine! LOL Lastlaugh...
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7:36pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Nebs says...

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Pedantic comment, as I said before. You can also buy cannabis from home delivery services who take your order on the phone and deliver it anywhere you want. Why buy on a street corner when every Dutch town I have been to has a cannabis cafe on the High Street and there are adverts everywhere for the home delivery sevices. By any normal standard that is no different to being legal!
But you said: Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago.
I merely pointed out that your statement was factually incorrect. That you are unable to accept this, despite all the evidence, must surely cast doubt on all your other "facts".
[quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Pedantic comment, as I said before. You can also buy cannabis from home delivery services who take your order on the phone and deliver it anywhere you want. Why buy on a street corner when every Dutch town I have been to has a cannabis cafe on the High Street and there are adverts everywhere for the home delivery sevices. By any normal standard that is no different to being legal![/p][/quote]But you said: Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago. I merely pointed out that your statement was factually incorrect. That you are unable to accept this, despite all the evidence, must surely cast doubt on all your other "facts". Nebs
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8:54pm Tue 20 Nov 12

asbo industries inc says...

Nebs wrote:
Aint it just the truth wrote:
Pedantic comment, as I said before. You can also buy cannabis from home delivery services who take your order on the phone and deliver it anywhere you want. Why buy on a street corner when every Dutch town I have been to has a cannabis cafe on the High Street and there are adverts everywhere for the home delivery sevices. By any normal standard that is no different to being legal!
But you said: Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago.
I merely pointed out that your statement was factually incorrect. That you are unable to accept this, despite all the evidence, must surely cast doubt on all your other "facts".
but, but... the truth WILL prevail!!
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aint it just the truth[/bold] wrote: Pedantic comment, as I said before. You can also buy cannabis from home delivery services who take your order on the phone and deliver it anywhere you want. Why buy on a street corner when every Dutch town I have been to has a cannabis cafe on the High Street and there are adverts everywhere for the home delivery sevices. By any normal standard that is no different to being legal![/p][/quote]But you said: Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago. I merely pointed out that your statement was factually incorrect. That you are unable to accept this, despite all the evidence, must surely cast doubt on all your other "facts".[/p][/quote]but, but... the truth WILL prevail!! asbo industries inc
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