Cannabis grower floods neighbour's flat (From Echo)

asbo industries inc wrote:
who'd have thought it...cannabis and electricity abstraction? an illegal activity carried out illegally!

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless.

Eric Whim wrote:

Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless.

took me decades to kick the tobacco habit I picked up from toking spliffs

John T Pharro wrote:

Eric Whim wrote:

Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless.

took me decades to kick the tobacco habit I picked up from toking spliffs

As you are so quick to pick up on the "Echo's" misspellings what is "toking"!

John T Pharro wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

Surprised at this from you. Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless. Are you seriously suggesting you would encourage it's use? Would hate to think drivers are on cannabis as much as alcohol.

Eric Whim wrote:

Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless.

took me decades to kick the tobacco habit I picked up from toking spliffs

Aint it just the truth wrote:
ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.

John T Pharro wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.

And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.

Brunning999 wrote:
Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of!

Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.

Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.

What a dreadfully irresponsible statement.

Just say NO!!!!

Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF.

What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Brunning999 wrote:
Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of!

The sooner it changes the better.

asbo industries inc wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese

l wrote:

Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.

What a dreadfully irresponsible statement.

Just say NO!!!!

Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF.

What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.

all that weed is making you paranoid. i recommend a plate of cold turkey.

asbo industries inc wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Brunning999 wrote:
Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of!

The sooner it changes the better.

don't hold your breath. actually do hold your breath...

asbo industries inc wrote:
ah the unwelcome arrival of the cannabots.

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese


l wrote:

Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.

What a dreadfully irresponsible statement.

Just say NO!!!!

Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF.

What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.

all that weed is making you paranoid. i recommend a plate of cold turkey.

You are deluded if you have to boil that down to paranoia, and in denial if you think what i said doesnt go on and in fact shows how strong your argument is by resorting to that pathetic response.

How about coming back with a real response to what i said instead of school boy insults that does you NO favours.

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Brunning999 wrote:
Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of!

The sooner it changes the better.

don't hold your breath. actually do hold your breath...

How about you stop randomly insulting people for using a substance safer than aspirin?

You wish death on people who are non violent, and who wish to cause you no harm.

I fact, unfortunately, i think i have been feeding a pathetic troll who seems to want to simply get a reaction out of people who disagree with prohibition.
to call you a pathetic excuse for a human would be a dreadful understatement.

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Brunning999 wrote:
Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of!

The sooner it changes the better.

don't hold your breath. actually do hold your breath...

How about you stop randomly insulting people for using a substance safer than aspirin?

You wish death on people who are non violent, and who wish to cause you no harm.

I fact, unfortunately, i think i have been feeding a pathetic troll who seems to want to simply get a reaction out of people who disagree with prohibition.
to call you a pathetic excuse for a human would be a dreadful understatement.

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:
ah the unwelcome arrival of the cannabots.

Ladies and geltlemen I present to you.......... ASBO. The troll of the Echo who has been annoying people with ignorant and inflamatory nonsense for many years. Best to ignore him folks.

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:
ah the unwelcome arrival of the cannabots.

Ladies and geltlemen I present to you.......... ASBO. The troll of the Echo who has been annoying people with ignorant and inflamatory nonsense for many years. Best to ignore him folks.

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

But in the mean time...its illegal.

asbo industries inc wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese

l wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Brunning999 wrote:
Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of!

The sooner it changes the better.

don't hold your breath. actually do hold your breath...

How about you stop randomly insulting people for using a substance safer than aspirin?

You wish death on people who are non violent, and who wish to cause you no harm.

I fact, unfortunately, i think i have been feeding a pathetic troll who seems to want to simply get a reaction out of people who disagree with prohibition.
to call you a pathetic excuse for a human would be a dreadful understatement.

http://www.echo-news

.co.uk/news/local_ne

ws/southend/9829604.

Man_found_guilty_of_

killing_at_Southend_

towerblock/

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

But in the mean time...its illegal.

Alan-_Hobday wrote:
Isn't it a disgrace how the British government wants us to remain behind as a third rate nation, whilst the truly progressive nations are making great strides towards legalisation. Already fully legal in two states of America, with another four moving towards full legalisation and many other states already offering legal cannabis to medicinal users. Once that kingpin of enforced prohibition and misery is out of the way the rest of the prohibitionist fiefdoms will come tumbling down like dominoes.

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese


l wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Brunning999 wrote:
Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of!

The sooner it changes the better.

don't hold your breath. actually do hold your breath...

How about you stop randomly insulting people for using a substance safer than aspirin?

You wish death on people who are non violent, and who wish to cause you no harm.

I fact, unfortunately, i think i have been feeding a pathetic troll who seems to want to simply get a reaction out of people who disagree with prohibition.
to call you a pathetic excuse for a human would be a dreadful understatement.

http://www.echo-news


.co.uk/news/local_ne


ws/southend/9829604.


Man_found_guilty_of_


killing_at_Southend_


towerblock/

Your a troll, and showing me a story involving robbery does not change the fact that you are a pathetic vile troll. I will not waste my time on you, but the last thing i will say is, the only reason you are saying these things and trolling under the bridge that is Echo news, is because you are behind the comfort of your PC screen. Cowardice, and lacking proper intellect with poor response, usually resorting to random insult as a result is what trolls do. Let me know when you have evolved to the point where your able to stop grazing in that field, and are able to leave it. Until then, to call you a sheep is a compliment to your cognitive function.

asbo industries inc wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese

l wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese



l wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Brunning999 wrote:
Boring comments just enforce the law it's illegal until made legal end of!

The sooner it changes the better.

don't hold your breath. actually do hold your breath...

How about you stop randomly insulting people for using a substance safer than aspirin?

You wish death on people who are non violent, and who wish to cause you no harm.

I fact, unfortunately, i think i have been feeding a pathetic troll who seems to want to simply get a reaction out of people who disagree with prohibition.
to call you a pathetic excuse for a human would be a dreadful understatement.

http://www.echo-news



.co.uk/news/local_ne



ws/southend/9829604.



Man_found_guilty_of_



killing_at_Southend_



towerblock/

Your a troll, and showing me a story involving robbery does not change the fact that you are a pathetic vile troll. I will not waste my time on you, but the last thing i will say is, the only reason you are saying these things and trolling under the bridge that is Echo news, is because you are behind the comfort of your PC screen. Cowardice, and lacking proper intellect with poor response, usually resorting to random insult as a result is what trolls do. Let me know when you have evolved to the point where your able to stop grazing in that field, and are able to leave it. Until then, to call you a sheep is a compliment to your cognitive function.

i'll meet you anytime and tell you to your face you invertebrate (although you'll have to pay me for my time and i'm not cheap...i don't accept rubberised, benefits cheques btw)

asbo industries inc wrote:
you'll have to come to southend. do you even know where that is?

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

But in the mean time...its illegal.

And your point is????

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

But in the mean time...its illegal.

Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.

I'll say no to the two worst "legal highs" booze and fags. Can't stand 'em.

asbo industries inc wrote:
the conviction of an average dope addict... anytime!!! make that meet you half way!! make that cower in my squat, draw the curtains and light another spliff.

Lastlaugh... wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese

l wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

But in the mean time...its illegal.

Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.

LOL...You surmise a lot...but the fact is this herb at the moment is illegal..no getting away from that... Mauna Kea is also the tallest mountain on the planet... doesn't mean i want to upset or destroy Everest tourism...

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:
the conviction of an average dope addict... anytime!!! make that meet you half way!! make that cower in my squat, draw the curtains and light another spliff.

LOL what planet do you live on. Why would i come all way to you? I will meet you Half way, if you decline, who is the coward?

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

But in the mean time...its illegal.

And your point is????

Just that!

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese


l wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

But in the mean time...its illegal.

Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.

LOL...You surmise a lot...but the fact is this herb at the moment is illegal..no getting away from that... Mauna Kea is also the tallest mountain on the planet... doesn't mean i want to upset or destroy Everest tourism...

Im talking about you blindly supporting a policy that causes more harm than good.
Why?

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

But in the mean time...its illegal.

And your point is????

Just that!

So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here.

You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal.

I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious.

Maybe not..

asbo industries inc wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese

l wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:
the conviction of an average dope addict... anytime!!! make that meet you half way!! make that cower in my squat, draw the curtains and light another spliff.

LOL what planet do you live on. Why would i come all way to you? I will meet you Half way, if you decline, who is the coward?

you are a clown of the highest order. coco aspires to your level of clowndom. you have asked me to tell you to face. i have told you anytime but you pay for my time. try reading this post without having to peer through a cloud of cannabis smoke. it may make more sense.

Lastlaugh... wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese

l wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese



l wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

But in the mean time...its illegal.

Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.

LOL...You surmise a lot...but the fact is this herb at the moment is illegal..no getting away from that... Mauna Kea is also the tallest mountain on the planet... doesn't mean i want to upset or destroy Everest tourism...

Im talking about you blindly supporting a policy that causes more harm than good.
Why?

How is it "blindly" ?

Is it a policy or is it a 'law' ?

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese


l wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:
the conviction of an average dope addict... anytime!!! make that meet you half way!! make that cower in my squat, draw the curtains and light another spliff.

LOL what planet do you live on. Why would i come all way to you? I will meet you Half way, if you decline, who is the coward?

you are a clown of the highest order. coco aspires to your level of clowndom. you have asked me to tell you to face. i have told you anytime but you pay for my time. try reading this post without having to peer through a cloud of cannabis smoke. it may make more sense.

How About not resulting to childish insults? How about not supporting a policy/law which is undoubtedly causing more harm than good? How about being a man instead of a troll? How about realising that yes, instead of alcohol i use cannabis. Do i use it all the time? Nope, not even everyday. But like all humans, i do things to relax. Apart from using Exercise to realise chemicals to relax myself, i smoke cannabis occasionally. So how about not resorting to the 'paranoid' 'cloud of smoke' **** and being a bit grown up about this? No? Still going to troll?

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese


l wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese




l wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

But in the mean time...its illegal.

Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.

LOL...You surmise a lot...but the fact is this herb at the moment is illegal..no getting away from that... Mauna Kea is also the tallest mountain on the planet... doesn't mean i want to upset or destroy Everest tourism...

Im talking about you blindly supporting a policy that causes more harm than good.
Why?

How is it "blindly" ?

Is it a policy or is it a 'law' ?

Okay, to rephrase my question, why do you knowingly support a law/policy that causes much more harm than it prevents?

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

But in the mean time...its illegal.

And your point is????

Just that!

So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here.

You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal.

I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious.

Maybe not..

Any evidence to support your wishful thinking "soon it will happen here" ?

Yes...it is indeed illegal and all the puffing and blowing on here wont make it any less illegal....construct

ive points notwithstanding...

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

But in the mean time...its illegal.

And your point is????

Just that!

So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here.

You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal.

I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious.

Maybe not..

Any evidence to support your wishful thinking "soon it will happen here" ?

Yes...it is indeed illegal and all the puffing and blowing on here wont make it any less illegal....construct


ive points notwithstanding...

What evidence? A rapidly rising proportion of the British Public (now at 69%) supporting liberalisation of the law.

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

But in the mean time...its illegal.

And your point is????

Just that!

So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here.

You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal.

I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious.

Maybe not..

Any evidence to support your wishful thinking "soon it will happen here" ?

Yes...it is indeed illegal and all the puffing and blowing on here wont make it any less illegal....construct


ive points notwithstanding...

What evidence? A rapidly rising proportion of the British Public (now at 69%) supporting liberalisation of the law.

InTheKnowOk wrote:
you gotta laugh at the clown loggin into all those different accounts trying to justify his own dirty little habit ...

Lastlaugh... wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese

l wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese



l wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese





l wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

But in the mean time...its illegal.

Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.

LOL...You surmise a lot...but the fact is this herb at the moment is illegal..no getting away from that... Mauna Kea is also the tallest mountain on the planet... doesn't mean i want to upset or destroy Everest tourism...

Im talking about you blindly supporting a policy that causes more harm than good.
Why?

How is it "blindly" ?

Is it a policy or is it a 'law' ?

Okay, to rephrase my question, why do you knowingly support a law/policy that causes much more harm than it prevents?

This is accepting that this law actually does do more harm than good.

Any evidence the 'law' causes more harm than good?

InTheKnowOk wrote:
you gotta laugh at the clown loggin into all those different accounts trying to justify his own dirty little habit ...

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
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Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
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It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

But in the mean time...its illegal.

And your point is????

Just that!

So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here.

You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal.

I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious.

Maybe not..

Any evidence to support your wishful thinking "soon it will happen here" ?

Yes...it is indeed illegal and all the puffing and blowing on here wont make it any less illegal....construct



ive points notwithstanding...

What evidence? A rapidly rising proportion of the British Public (now at 69%) supporting liberalisation of the law.

92% of all poll statistics are cr@p

Even if we accept the 62%, how is that evidence "soon it will happen here"

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.

What a dreadfully irresponsible statement.

Just say NO!!!!

Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF.

What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

But in the mean time...its illegal.

And your point is????

Just that!

So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here.

You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal.

I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious.

Maybe not..

Any evidence to support your wishful thinking "soon it will happen here" ?

Yes...it is indeed illegal and all the puffing and blowing on here wont make it any less illegal....construct




ive points notwithstanding...

What evidence? A rapidly rising proportion of the British Public (now at 69%) supporting liberalisation of the law.

92% of all poll statistics are cr@p

Even if we accept the 62%, how is that evidence "soon it will happen here"

Well, I still believe that Britain is a democracy, perhaps you don't?

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese


l wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese




l wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese






l wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

But in the mean time...its illegal.

Yes, the law is the law. The law was segregation at one point i guess you would support that as well? You seem the type to blindly support any law regardless of the damage its doing to society as a whole. Laws change all the time. This law about cannabis being illegal has NOTHING to do with harm reduction, in fact its causing harm.

LOL...You surmise a lot...but the fact is this herb at the moment is illegal..no getting away from that... Mauna Kea is also the tallest mountain on the planet... doesn't mean i want to upset or destroy Everest tourism...

Im talking about you blindly supporting a policy that causes more harm than good.
Why?

How is it "blindly" ?

Is it a policy or is it a 'law' ?

Okay, to rephrase my question, why do you knowingly support a law/policy that causes much more harm than it prevents?

This is accepting that this law actually does do more harm than good.

Any evidence the 'law' causes more harm than good?

Well if you cant see the fact that criminals control the market as a result from prohibition, causing untold harm then whats the point? Why do you think so many places around the world are slowly tearing the walls down of prohibition? Why do you think many economists are trying to show people what a dangerous economic drain prohibition is? Many policemen are against prohibition, against gifting the market to criminals.

“Many people who think of themselves as the beneficiaries of prohibition are really net losers. Parents are much more at risk of losing their children under prohibition than they would be if there was some kind of system where we had some measure of control over illicit drugs.” - Peter Baume Former Australian Minister for Health, Minister for Education & Minister for Aboriginal Affairs

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
.
Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
.
It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

But in the mean time...its illegal.

And your point is????

Just that!

So, A.I.J.T.T. points out that a rapidly growing portion of the world is legalising, and soon it will happen here.

You respond that until it is legalised it is illegal.

I just thought you might actually have a constructive point to make, rather than simply pointing out the bl33ding obvious.

Maybe not..

Any evidence to support your wishful thinking "soon it will happen here" ?

Yes...it is indeed illegal and all the puffing and blowing on here wont make it any less illegal....construct





ive points notwithstanding...

What evidence? A rapidly rising proportion of the British Public (now at 69%) supporting liberalisation of the law.

92% of all poll statistics are cr@p

Even if we accept the 62%, how is that evidence "soon it will happen here"

Well, I still believe that Britain is a democracy, perhaps you don't?

Then if what you say is the case why isn't cannabis legal?

Nebs wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese

l wrote:

Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.

What a dreadfully irresponsible statement.

Just say NO!!!!

Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF.

What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.

Thanks for your input. Make yourself a nice cup of tea, and have a lie down. Maybe watch a film. You'll feel so much better. In the meantime, the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Nebs wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese


l wrote:

Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.

What a dreadfully irresponsible statement.

Just say NO!!!!

Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF.

What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.

Thanks for your input. Make yourself a nice cup of tea, and have a lie down. Maybe watch a film. You'll feel so much better. In the meantime, the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.

Why?

Nebs wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Nebs wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese



l wrote:

Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.

What a dreadfully irresponsible statement.

Just say NO!!!!

Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF.

What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.

Thanks for your input. Make yourself a nice cup of tea, and have a lie down. Maybe watch a film. You'll feel so much better. In the meantime, the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.

Why?

Because the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.

John T Pharro wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.

And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.

And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?

The Asbo Redemption wrote:
Look here, I realise that I have let my inability to read a scientific study (mean, mode, median etc.) cloud my thinking.
I just happened on this response on a clear thinking and overwhelmingly good natured online discussion group and thought I would share this with you.

https://www.quora.co

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drugs

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Nebs wrote:

Alan-_Hobday wrote:

Nebs wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese




l wrote:

Nebs wrote:
Just say no to illegal drugs.

What a dreadfully irresponsible statement.

Just say NO!!!!

Because if you say Yes, we will order thugs in uniform to kick your door down, destroy your medicine and or recreation, confiscate your legal possessions, ripping you away from your family, to put you in JAIL TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF.

What a dreadfully dangerous, irresponsible policy you support.

Thanks for your input. Make yourself a nice cup of tea, and have a lie down. Maybe watch a film. You'll feel so much better. In the meantime, the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.

Why?

Because the responsible thing to do is to just say no to illegal drugs.

Why is it responsible?

Aint it just the truth wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.

And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.

And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?

Get your facts right! Cannabis is now either legal or decriminalised or tolerated in dozens of countries. Most of these countries allow possession of small amounts, some levy small fines for possession of small amounts but the fines are not recorded as criminal offences (hence decriminalised), some still retain anti cannabis laws but do not enforce them, such as India where it is still technically illegal (not legal as you claim). You need to read the article again, properly. The bottom line is that the trend to lessen penalties and decriminalise is clear. Twenty years ago hardly any countries allowed legal possession, now many do including some US states. Legalisation is inevitable, get used to it.
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John Pharro, almost anyone who was young in the late 60s / early 70s came into contact with cannabis and anyone who denies this is either a liar or they led an extremely sheltered life or they had an extremely poor social life and they certainly weren't in touch with the sixties zeitgeist. Annual surveys since then have shown that between a third and two thirds of all young people in every succeeding generation have used cannabis which means that around half of all people in their early sixties or younger have used cannabis and we all know that most of the tabloid scare stories are absolute nonsense. Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?

Aint it just the truth wrote:
The sixties/seventies generation would disagree with you as we rejected the legal drug alcohol in favour of cannabis as it is less dangerous, less debilitating, doesn't turn people into slobbering imbeciles and it can't kill you. It's just plain common sense unless you have been brainwashed by the tabloid lies.
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Just remember that tea, coffee, homosexuality and votes for women were once illegal. As one of the ancient Greeks once said we have a duty not to obey unjust laws and the current laws on cannabis ARE unjust.

Aint it just the truth wrote:
The sixties/seventies generation would disagree with you as we rejected the legal drug alcohol in favour of cannabis as it is less dangerous, less debilitating, doesn't turn people into slobbering imbeciles and it can't kill you. It's just plain common sense unless you have been brainwashed by the tabloid lies. . Just remember that tea, coffee, homosexuality and votes for women were once illegal. As one of the ancient Greeks once said we have a duty not to obey unjust laws and the current laws on cannabis ARE unjust.

John T Pharro wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.

And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.

And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?

Get your facts right! Cannabis is now either legal or decriminalised or tolerated in dozens of countries. Most of these countries allow possession of small amounts, some levy small fines for possession of small amounts but the fines are not recorded as criminal offences (hence decriminalised), some still retain anti cannabis laws but do not enforce them, such as India where it is still technically illegal (not legal as you claim). You need to read the article again, properly. The bottom line is that the trend to lessen penalties and decriminalise is clear. Twenty years ago hardly any countries allowed legal possession, now many do including some US states. Legalisation is inevitable, get used to it. . John Pharro, almost anyone who was young in the late 60s / early 70s came into contact with cannabis and anyone who denies this is either a liar or they led an extremely sheltered life or they had an extremely poor social life and they certainly weren't in touch with the sixties zeitgeist. Annual surveys since then have shown that between a third and two thirds of all young people in every succeeding generation have used cannabis which means that around half of all people in their early sixties or younger have used cannabis and we all know that most of the tabloid scare stories are absolute nonsense. Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?

Well you have answered your own case. Just because it is decriminalised does not mean it is legal. The NHS says it is "pretty harmless substance" that is their official opinion is it? Actually I had to smile a bit as being a teenager in the 60's and living in Twickenham Eel Pie Island and all that I must have had a sheltered life, because despite visiting them I can assure you the prevalence you think was there was not. Of course it could be that those that looked for it found it. Yes, I still think cannabis is bad because you cannot be sure just how it will affect each person. Rather like alcohol some get affected more than others. Next time you see a parent devastated by the affect of cannabis to their child try telling them it is "pretty harmless.

Aint it just the truth wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.

And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.

And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?

Get your facts right! Cannabis is now either legal or decriminalised or tolerated in dozens of countries. Most of these countries allow possession of small amounts, some levy small fines for possession of small amounts but the fines are not recorded as criminal offences (hence decriminalised), some still retain anti cannabis laws but do not enforce them, such as India where it is still technically illegal (not legal as you claim). You need to read the article again, properly. The bottom line is that the trend to lessen penalties and decriminalise is clear. Twenty years ago hardly any countries allowed legal possession, now many do including some US states. Legalisation is inevitable, get used to it. . John Pharro, almost anyone who was young in the late 60s / early 70s came into contact with cannabis and anyone who denies this is either a liar or they led an extremely sheltered life or they had an extremely poor social life and they certainly weren't in touch with the sixties zeitgeist. Annual surveys since then have shown that between a third and two thirds of all young people in every succeeding generation have used cannabis which means that around half of all people in their early sixties or younger have used cannabis and we all know that most of the tabloid scare stories are absolute nonsense. Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?

Well you have answered your own case. Just because it is decriminalised does not mean it is legal. The NHS says it is "pretty harmless substance" that is their official opinion is it? Actually I had to smile a bit as being a teenager in the 60's and living in Twickenham Eel Pie Island and all that I must have had a sheltered life, because despite visiting them I can assure you the prevalence you think was there was not. Of course it could be that those that looked for it found it. Yes, I still think cannabis is bad because you cannot be sure just how it will affect each person. Rather like alcohol some get affected more than others. Next time you see a parent devastated by the affect of cannabis to their child try telling them it is "pretty harmless.

Oops quoted the wrong comment! (no not toking or drinking or anything else)
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Sorry matey but you are too old to have seen it (I do know who you are). Cannabis didn't become common until the summer of 1969, if not early 1970, and it was mostly restricted to people 16 to 20 who nearly ALL toked. You were too old!
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Almost everyone I know has been smoking since the late sixties and we are all doing a LOT better than the odd few boozers we know, all of whom are fat, blubbery, bloated and red faced with loads of health problems? What we have found recently is that a small number of people have a faulty gene that makes them more likely to have problems with cannabis, just like some people have faulty genes that make them susceptible to problems with bee stings, peanut butter etc. Personally I don't know anyone who has problems with cannabis, bee stings or peanut butter but perhaps, to be on the safe side we ought to ban bees and peanuts too?
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from the Royal College of Psychiatrists
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http://www.rcpsych.a


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o/problems/alcoholan


ddrugs/cannabis.aspx


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“Recent research in Denmark suggests that (cannabis induced psychosis) is a short-lived psychotic disorder that seems to be brought on by cannabis use but which subsides fairly quickly once the individual has stopped using it. It's quite unusual though – in the whole of Denmark they found only around 100 new cases per year“.
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From the Mental Healthcare website produced by the Institute of Psychiatry, Kings College London and South London & Maudsley NHS Trust.
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http://www.mentalhea


lthcare.org.uk/canna


bis
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"The vast majority of cannabis users do not become unwell, just as the majority of people who drink alcohol in moderation never come to harm" (note the specific words they use).
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Lonsdale NHS Medical Centre
Drug Information
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http://www.lonsdalem


edicalcentre.nhs.uk/


usefulinfo/content.a


sp?id=40
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“There is no conclusive evidence that moderate, long-term use of cannabis causes lasting damage to physical or mental health“.
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“There is no physical dependence associated with cannabis use. Regular users who stop smoking do not suffer withdrawal symptoms in the same way as with drugs like heroin“.
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Put that in your pipe and toke it!”

asbo industries inc wrote:
where are the bots...in the pub getting smashed sans doute? cannabis use kills ambition...the bots have got all the staying power of a phart in a hurricane

Diannah wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote: where are the bots...in the pub getting smashed sans doute? cannabis use kills ambition...the bots have got all the staying power of a phart in a hurricane

Cannabis use kills ambition. You get my quote of the day award for that - very good!

John T Pharro wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.

And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.

And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?

Get your facts right! Cannabis is now either legal or decriminalised or tolerated in dozens of countries. Most of these countries allow possession of small amounts, some levy small fines for possession of small amounts but the fines are not recorded as criminal offences (hence decriminalised), some still retain anti cannabis laws but do not enforce them, such as India where it is still technically illegal (not legal as you claim). You need to read the article again, properly. The bottom line is that the trend to lessen penalties and decriminalise is clear. Twenty years ago hardly any countries allowed legal possession, now many do including some US states. Legalisation is inevitable, get used to it. . John Pharro, almost anyone who was young in the late 60s / early 70s came into contact with cannabis and anyone who denies this is either a liar or they led an extremely sheltered life or they had an extremely poor social life and they certainly weren't in touch with the sixties zeitgeist. Annual surveys since then have shown that between a third and two thirds of all young people in every succeeding generation have used cannabis which means that around half of all people in their early sixties or younger have used cannabis and we all know that most of the tabloid scare stories are absolute nonsense. Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?

Well you have answered your own case. Just because it is decriminalised does not mean it is legal. The NHS says it is "pretty harmless substance" that is their official opinion is it? Actually I had to smile a bit as being a teenager in the 60's and living in Twickenham Eel Pie Island and all that I must have had a sheltered life, because despite visiting them I can assure you the prevalence you think was there was not. Of course it could be that those that looked for it found it. Yes, I still think cannabis is bad because you cannot be sure just how it will affect each person. Rather like alcohol some get affected more than others. Next time you see a parent devastated by the affect of cannabis to their child try telling them it is "pretty harmless.

Oops quoted the wrong comment! (no not toking or drinking or anything else) . Sorry matey but you are too old to have seen it (I do know who you are). Cannabis didn't become common until the summer of 1969, if not early 1970, and it was mostly restricted to people 16 to 20 who nearly ALL toked. You were too old! . Almost everyone I know has been smoking since the late sixties and we are all doing a LOT better than the odd few boozers we know, all of whom are fat, blubbery, bloated and red faced with loads of health problems? What we have found recently is that a small number of people have a faulty gene that makes them more likely to have problems with cannabis, just like some people have faulty genes that make them susceptible to problems with bee stings, peanut butter etc. Personally I don't know anyone who has problems with cannabis, bee stings or peanut butter but perhaps, to be on the safe side we ought to ban bees and peanuts too? . from the Royal College of Psychiatrists . http://www.rcpsych.a c.uk/mentalhealthinf o/problems/alcoholan ddrugs/cannabis.aspx . “Recent research in Denmark suggests that (cannabis induced psychosis) is a short-lived psychotic disorder that seems to be brought on by cannabis use but which subsides fairly quickly once the individual has stopped using it. It's quite unusual though – in the whole of Denmark they found only around 100 new cases per year“. . From the Mental Healthcare website produced by the Institute of Psychiatry, Kings College London and South London & Maudsley NHS Trust. . http://www.mentalhea lthcare.org.uk/canna bis . "The vast majority of cannabis users do not become unwell, just as the majority of people who drink alcohol in moderation never come to harm" (note the specific words they use). . Lonsdale NHS Medical Centre Drug Information . http://www.lonsdalem edicalcentre.nhs.uk/ usefulinfo/content.a sp?id=40 . “There is no conclusive evidence that moderate, long-term use of cannabis causes lasting damage to physical or mental health“. . “There is no physical dependence associated with cannabis use. Regular users who stop smoking do not suffer withdrawal symptoms in the same way as with drugs like heroin“. . Put that in your pipe and toke it!”

You still haven't answered the question about devastated parents of a child that appear on TV from time to time citing cannabis as the cause of death following an upward spiral to stronger drugs have you? Cannot see the point of saying you know who I am as I know who you are.

Aint it just the truth wrote:

Diannah wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote: where are the bots...in the pub getting smashed sans doute? cannabis use kills ambition...the bots have got all the staying power of a phart in a hurricane

Cannabis use kills ambition. You get my quote of the day award for that - very good!

Don't encourage the troll

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation and the tide of history is inevitable ... ho ho!

asbo industries inc wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:

Diannah wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote: where are the bots...in the pub getting smashed sans doute? cannabis use kills ambition...the bots have got all the staying power of a phart in a hurricane

Cannabis use kills ambition. You get my quote of the day award for that - very good!

Don't encourage the troll

talking of pharts in hurricanes...

asbo industries inc wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation and the tide of history is inevitable ... ho ho!

the feds will never play ball. ho ho! the US is going through the last days of the roman empire. policies like cannabis legalisation, which will never be a at federal level btw, will only hasten their demise.

Aint it just the truth wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation and the tide of history is inevitable ... ho ho!

the feds will never play ball. ho ho! the US is going through the last days of the roman empire. policies like cannabis legalisation, which will never be a at federal level btw, will only hasten their demise.

Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago where even the current right wing government decided NOT to reverse the cannabis laws? Colorado and Washington today, the rest of the world tomorrow ho ho! The tide of history is INEVITABLE!

Nebs wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:

asbo industries inc wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation and the tide of history is inevitable ... ho ho!

the feds will never play ball. ho ho! the US is going through the last days of the roman empire. policies like cannabis legalisation, which will never be a at federal level btw, will only hasten their demise.

Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago where even the current right wing government decided NOT to reverse the cannabis laws? Colorado and Washington today, the rest of the world tomorrow ho ho! The tide of history is INEVITABLE!

I thought cannabis was still illegal in Holland, but was simply tolerated by way of not prosecuting people provided they had less than a certain amount. Their tolerance seems to reducing, as evidenced by trying to cut down on the drug tourists who go there to purchase this illegal drug.

Aint it just the truth wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.

And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.

And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?

Get your facts right! Cannabis is now either legal or decriminalised or tolerated in dozens of countries. Most of these countries allow possession of small amounts, some levy small fines for possession of small amounts but the fines are not recorded as criminal offences (hence decriminalised), some still retain anti cannabis laws but do not enforce them, such as India where it is still technically illegal (not legal as you claim). You need to read the article again, properly. The bottom line is that the trend to lessen penalties and decriminalise is clear. Twenty years ago hardly any countries allowed legal possession, now many do including some US states. Legalisation is inevitable, get used to it. . John Pharro, almost anyone who was young in the late 60s / early 70s came into contact with cannabis and anyone who denies this is either a liar or they led an extremely sheltered life or they had an extremely poor social life and they certainly weren't in touch with the sixties zeitgeist. Annual surveys since then have shown that between a third and two thirds of all young people in every succeeding generation have used cannabis which means that around half of all people in their early sixties or younger have used cannabis and we all know that most of the tabloid scare stories are absolute nonsense. Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?

Well you have answered your own case. Just because it is decriminalised does not mean it is legal. The NHS says it is "pretty harmless substance" that is their official opinion is it? Actually I had to smile a bit as being a teenager in the 60's and living in Twickenham Eel Pie Island and all that I must have had a sheltered life, because despite visiting them I can assure you the prevalence you think was there was not. Of course it could be that those that looked for it found it. Yes, I still think cannabis is bad because you cannot be sure just how it will affect each person. Rather like alcohol some get affected more than others. Next time you see a parent devastated by the affect of cannabis to their child try telling them it is "pretty harmless.

Oops quoted the wrong comment! (no not toking or drinking or anything else) . Sorry matey but you are too old to have seen it (I do know who you are). Cannabis didn't become common until the summer of 1969, if not early 1970, and it was mostly restricted to people 16 to 20 who nearly ALL toked. You were too old! . Almost everyone I know has been smoking since the late sixties and we are all doing a LOT better than the odd few boozers we know, all of whom are fat, blubbery, bloated and red faced with loads of health problems? What we have found recently is that a small number of people have a faulty gene that makes them more likely to have problems with cannabis, just like some people have faulty genes that make them susceptible to problems with bee stings, peanut butter etc. Personally I don't know anyone who has problems with cannabis, bee stings or peanut butter but perhaps, to be on the safe side we ought to ban bees and peanuts too? . from the Royal College of Psychiatrists . http://www.rcpsych.a c.uk/mentalhealthinf o/problems/alcoholan ddrugs/cannabis.aspx . “Recent research in Denmark suggests that (cannabis induced psychosis) is a short-lived psychotic disorder that seems to be brought on by cannabis use but which subsides fairly quickly once the individual has stopped using it. It's quite unusual though – in the whole of Denmark they found only around 100 new cases per year“. . From the Mental Healthcare website produced by the Institute of Psychiatry, Kings College London and South London & Maudsley NHS Trust. . http://www.mentalhea lthcare.org.uk/canna bis . "The vast majority of cannabis users do not become unwell, just as the majority of people who drink alcohol in moderation never come to harm" (note the specific words they use). . Lonsdale NHS Medical Centre Drug Information . http://www.lonsdalem edicalcentre.nhs.uk/ usefulinfo/content.a sp?id=40 . “There is no conclusive evidence that moderate, long-term use of cannabis causes lasting damage to physical or mental health“. . “There is no physical dependence associated with cannabis use. Regular users who stop smoking do not suffer withdrawal symptoms in the same way as with drugs like heroin“. . Put that in your pipe and toke it!”

You still haven't answered the question about devastated parents of a child that appear on TV from time to time citing cannabis as the cause of death following an upward spiral to stronger drugs have you? Cannot see the point of saying you know who I am as I know who you are.

I said I know who you are (from IYC) as I know you are just a tad too old to have been part of the late sixties/early seventies rock generation. (Sorry!)
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As for your other comments, cannabis does NOT lead onto other drugs, that is proven beyond doubt. However that doesn;t mean that some individuals will not go on to try harder drugs just as some coffee drinkers will move onto booze but in my experience the only people who go on to the hard stuff have self destructive personalities, if drugs were not there they would become alcoholics.
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"Cannabis the cause of death"? No-one in the history of the earth has died from a cannabis overdose. It has been estimated that you'd need to smoke a lorry load to get a lethal overdose, can't be done.
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The number of cannabis casualties are miniscule compared to the number of alcohol casualties (100 per year in Denmark, nor many more in the UK compared to tens of thousands of alcohol casualties). That is part of the reason why my generation took to cannabis, that and the fact that it doesn't turn people into slobbering idiots, tokers are more likely to want a cup of tea and a thoughtful chat than fall about helpless like drinkers. Also, as the Cambridge Uni study said the numbers of cannabis casualties are so small we cannot be sure they would not have happened anyway apart from the tiny number who have the wrong genetic defect. Whilst it is sad that a tiny number of people may actually develop a problem because of cannabis (probably because they have the faulty gene) the bottom line is that cannabis is magnitudes safer than alcohol and that is an undeniable Fact.

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Ooops, couple of lines up should have read "probably saved their KIDS lives".
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Apologies to my friends (you know who you are A & L) if they see me airing their dirty washing in public.

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Nebs wrote:

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asbo industries inc wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation and the tide of history is inevitable ... ho ho!

the feds will never play ball. ho ho! the US is going through the last days of the roman empire. policies like cannabis legalisation, which will never be a at federal level btw, will only hasten their demise.

Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago where even the current right wing government decided NOT to reverse the cannabis laws? Colorado and Washington today, the rest of the world tomorrow ho ho! The tide of history is INEVITABLE!

I thought cannabis was still illegal in Holland, but was simply tolerated by way of not prosecuting people provided they had less than a certain amount. Their tolerance seems to reducing, as evidenced by trying to cut down on the drug tourists who go there to purchase this illegal drug.

Still out of touch Nebs? If you can buy weed over the counter legally in every high street in the country it's certainly not illegal is it? The current right wing government in Holland did say they would crack down on the 'legal' cannabis trade but they have backed down and now say they are not going to change anything. Why not? Probably because it doesn't cause any problems, it attracts the tourists and it makes the country money. QED.
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Colorado and Washington today ... tomorrow ... legalisation is inevitable ... ho ho!

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John T Pharro wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: ps Did you know that tests at NY Uni showed that drivers response times actually improved with a low does of cannabis esp amongst experienced users. Also, most of the drivers caught under the influence of cannabis are picked up by the Police for driving TOO carefully because unlike alcohol cannabis boosts the senses, it doesn't suppress them like alcohol so I have no problem with drivers using cannabis.

And you clearly get your "facts" from the U S A. Take it you are a user and like most users will believe anything to support their habit.

And I have just checked what countries is it that cannabis is actually legal on Wikepidia There is about 3 India and Pakistan being 2. The vast majority over 50 it is illegal and about 10 decrimalised with the U S A and Australia only some states. Has cannabis muddled your arithmetic?

Get your facts right! Cannabis is now either legal or decriminalised or tolerated in dozens of countries. Most of these countries allow possession of small amounts, some levy small fines for possession of small amounts but the fines are not recorded as criminal offences (hence decriminalised), some still retain anti cannabis laws but do not enforce them, such as India where it is still technically illegal (not legal as you claim). You need to read the article again, properly. The bottom line is that the trend to lessen penalties and decriminalise is clear. Twenty years ago hardly any countries allowed legal possession, now many do including some US states. Legalisation is inevitable, get used to it.
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John Pharro, almost anyone who was young in the late 60s / early 70s came into contact with cannabis and anyone who denies this is either a liar or they led an extremely sheltered life or they had an extremely poor social life and they certainly weren't in touch with the sixties zeitgeist. Annual surveys since then have shown that between a third and two thirds of all young people in every succeeding generation have used cannabis which means that around half of all people in their early sixties or younger have used cannabis and we all know that most of the tabloid scare stories are absolute nonsense. Do I have to post all the links to NHS websites again that state clearly that cannabis is a pretty harmless substance?

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Any Police officer would tell you that cannabis users are not a problem to themselves, to the Police or to anyone else, unlike boozers, so they'd rather not waste their time having to enforce an unenforcable and unjustifiable law. True.

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Rubbish, you will only find that if you do not understand the subject (as you don't) and/or you do not assess your sources properly. The bottom line is that there are thousands of times the number of alcohol casualties than there are cannabis casualties despite the fact that around 7 million people smoke weed in the UK. All the latest surveys say that the majority of people under 65 (critical age, as you know) would support the decriminalisation of cannabis. I would never "recommend" smoking cannabis (another silly question John)but I would agree that it is "up to them" and their "freedom of choice".
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Let me tell you a story ... a few years ago friends of ours (he's a chartered surveyor, she's a teacher) lost their youngest child in an accident. Their older children took it badly and went off the rails, raiding Mum and Dad's drinks cabinet and started using drugs. Within a year or so they were getting drunk and then taking one of the family cars out joy-riding (silly phrase) and using lord knows what drugs so the parents offered the kids a solution, they told the kids they could smoke dope in the house if they stopped drinking alcohol and swiping the car, and it worked, the kids calmed down, knuckled down with their school/college work, went on to Uni and now they are both extremely useful members of society, one is a civil servant, the other an accountant, but if they had continued doing what they were doing they would probably have ended up a drunk driving statistic. Fortunately their parents (my generation) knew enough about these things to take what you would probably say was a daft decision, except it wasn't and it probably saved their lives. Open up your mind sir, Colorado and Washington are amongst the most sensible US states. Roll on the revolution!

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I'm not wasting my time with brainless trolss any more but mark my words, if you go over the top again I will have you removed, again. Got that?

InTheKnowOk wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Rubbish, you will only find that if you do not understand the subject (as you don't) and/or you do not assess your sources properly. The bottom line is that there are thousands of times the number of alcohol casualties than there are cannabis casualties despite the fact that around 7 million people smoke weed in the UK. All the latest surveys say that the majority of people under 65 (critical age, as you know) would support the decriminalisation of cannabis. I would never "recommend" smoking cannabis (another silly question John)but I would agree that it is "up to them" and their "freedom of choice".
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Let me tell you a story ... a few years ago friends of ours (he's a chartered surveyor, she's a teacher) lost their youngest child in an accident. Their older children took it badly and went off the rails, raiding Mum and Dad's drinks cabinet and started using drugs. Within a year or so they were getting drunk and then taking one of the family cars out joy-riding (silly phrase) and using lord knows what drugs so the parents offered the kids a solution, they told the kids they could smoke dope in the house if they stopped drinking alcohol and swiping the car, and it worked, the kids calmed down, knuckled down with their school/college work, went on to Uni and now they are both extremely useful members of society, one is a civil servant, the other an accountant, but if they had continued doing what they were doing they would probably have ended up a drunk driving statistic. Fortunately their parents (my generation) knew enough about these things to take what you would probably say was a daft decision, except it wasn't and it probably saved their lives. Open up your mind sir, Colorado and Washington are amongst the most sensible US states. Roll on the revolution!

SO what you are implying is if your kids get out of hand let them have a joint??? ....... You have got to be the biggest idiot on here for thinking that's the right way to bring up a teenager .. The only joint that would get past my front door is one that i'd carve on a Sunday .. There are NO USEFUL members of society that take drugs, NONE WHATSOEVER!

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Pedantic as ever Nebs? Have you ever been to Holland and I don't just mean Amsterdam? Every high street has a cafe where you can buy any kind of cannabis you want and there are loads of openly advertised cannabis home delivery services. How is that different to legal?
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I believe it is actually legal to have small quantities in Holland but they frown on large amounts, not sure how the cafe's get around that but they do.

Nebs wrote:

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Pedantic as ever Nebs? Have you ever been to Holland and I don't just mean Amsterdam? Every high street has a cafe where you can buy any kind of cannabis you want and there are loads of openly advertised cannabis home delivery services. How is that different to legal?
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I believe it is actually legal to have small quantities in Holland but they frown on large amounts, not sure how the cafe's get around that but they do.

You don't requote all the previous posts when you are proved wrong. What you said was "Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago". I pointed out that it was still illegal but tolerated. So, I point out that what you said was not correct, and now I am pedantic. Instead of calling me pedantic you could have said something along the lines of Sorry, I was wrong.
It is not legal to have cannabis in Holland, it is just tolerated and not prosecuted. The coffee shops fall into the same category in that they are illegal but not prosecuted.

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Aint it just the truth wrote: Rubbish, you will only find that if you do not understand the subject (as you don't) and/or you do not assess your sources properly. The bottom line is that there are thousands of times the number of alcohol casualties than there are cannabis casualties despite the fact that around 7 million people smoke weed in the UK. All the latest surveys say that the majority of people under 65 (critical age, as you know) would support the decriminalisation of cannabis. I would never "recommend" smoking cannabis (another silly question John)but I would agree that it is "up to them" and their "freedom of choice". . Let me tell you a story ... a few years ago friends of ours (he's a chartered surveyor, she's a teacher) lost their youngest child in an accident. Their older children took it badly and went off the rails, raiding Mum and Dad's drinks cabinet and started using drugs. Within a year or so they were getting drunk and then taking one of the family cars out joy-riding (silly phrase) and using lord knows what drugs so the parents offered the kids a solution, they told the kids they could smoke dope in the house if they stopped drinking alcohol and swiping the car, and it worked, the kids calmed down, knuckled down with their school/college work, went on to Uni and now they are both extremely useful members of society, one is a civil servant, the other an accountant, but if they had continued doing what they were doing they would probably have ended up a drunk driving statistic. Fortunately their parents (my generation) knew enough about these things to take what you would probably say was a daft decision, except it wasn't and it probably saved their lives. Open up your mind sir, Colorado and Washington are amongst the most sensible US states. Roll on the revolution!

SO what you are implying is if your kids get out of hand let them have a joint??? ....... You have got to be the biggest idiot on here for thinking that's the right way to bring up a teenager .. The only joint that would get past my front door is one that i'd carve on a Sunday .. There are NO USEFUL members of society that take drugs, NONE WHATSOEVER!

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InTheKnowOk wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: Rubbish, you will only find that if you do not understand the subject (as you don't) and/or you do not assess your sources properly. The bottom line is that there are thousands of times the number of alcohol casualties than there are cannabis casualties despite the fact that around 7 million people smoke weed in the UK. All the latest surveys say that the majority of people under 65 (critical age, as you know) would support the decriminalisation of cannabis. I would never "recommend" smoking cannabis (another silly question John)but I would agree that it is "up to them" and their "freedom of choice". . Let me tell you a story ... a few years ago friends of ours (he's a chartered surveyor, she's a teacher) lost their youngest child in an accident. Their older children took it badly and went off the rails, raiding Mum and Dad's drinks cabinet and started using drugs. Within a year or so they were getting drunk and then taking one of the family cars out joy-riding (silly phrase) and using lord knows what drugs so the parents offered the kids a solution, they told the kids they could smoke dope in the house if they stopped drinking alcohol and swiping the car, and it worked, the kids calmed down, knuckled down with their school/college work, went on to Uni and now they are both extremely useful members of society, one is a civil servant, the other an accountant, but if they had continued doing what they were doing they would probably have ended up a drunk driving statistic. Fortunately their parents (my generation) knew enough about these things to take what you would probably say was a daft decision, except it wasn't and it probably saved their lives. Open up your mind sir, Colorado and Washington are amongst the most sensible US states. Roll on the revolution!

SO what you are implying is if your kids get out of hand let them have a joint??? ....... You have got to be the biggest idiot on here for thinking that's the right way to bring up a teenager .. The only joint that would get past my front door is one that i'd carve on a Sunday .. There are NO USEFUL members of society that take drugs, NONE WHATSOEVER!

I'd guess you never got past Junior school as you don't seem to understand what the word 'implies' means. I never implied anything, I simply repeated a true story. And no useful members of society use drugs? What planet are you from? And how about alcohol, caffeine and nicotine, some of the most dangerous drugs known to man. Fool.
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Nebs, what I also said was "Every high street (in Holland) has a cafe where you can buy any kind of cannabis you want and there are loads of openly advertised cannabis home delivery services. How is that any different to 'legal'?"
How about answering that question?
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As usual Asbo has nothing useful or constructive to say, just silly comments and insults. And he claims to be a professional! Liar! Do the trolls never learn?

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And assumption is the mother of all **** ups. Nothing morally dubious about it at all, the kids were traumatised by their younger brothers death and went off the rails doing anything they could including things much worse than cannabis and alcohol. Their parents saved their lives and got them back on track, the proof is in the pudding. Don't you trolls ever learn?

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i feel unclean having read the story. think i need a shower now...

InTheKnowOk wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: And assumption is the mother of all **** ups. Nothing morally dubious about it at all, the kids were traumatised by their younger brothers death and went off the rails doing anything they could including things much worse than cannabis and alcohol. Their parents saved their lives and got them back on track, the proof is in the pudding. Don't you trolls ever learn?

The parents saved their lives ... LMAO ... Classic post !

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And assumption is the mother of all **** ups. Nothing morally dubious about it at all, the kids were traumatised by their younger brothers death and went off the rails doing anything they could including things much worse than cannabis and alcohol. Their parents saved their lives and got them back on track, the proof is in the pudding. Don't you trolls ever learn?

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InTheKnowOk wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: And assumption is the mother of all **** ups. Nothing morally dubious about it at all, the kids were traumatised by their younger brothers death and went off the rails doing anything they could including things much worse than cannabis and alcohol. Their parents saved their lives and got them back on track, the proof is in the pudding. Don't you trolls ever learn?

The parents saved their lives ... LMAO ... Classic post !

And you are evil, ignorant and sad. I hope things like that never happen to you but I bet you have no children and if you have you will no doubt drive them away with your dumb attitude.

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You lot make me sick, none of you knows a single thing about drugs and yet you come on here preaching your twisted ignorant views. Truth is the average 12 year old knows a LOT more about this subject than any of you lot, partly from their peer group and partly because they are taught about drugs in school. Did you know that the teachers and the Police now tell the kids that cannabis is only a weak drug that won't kill you (which is true) although they also tell them it's best not to use it whilst still young. They tell the truth, why don't you? Ah yes, ignorance. So do a course on it and find out the real truth before you air your stupid ideas on here before you pop down the pub to imbibe one of the most dangerous drugs known to man. Fools.

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Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.

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Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.

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Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.

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According to the BBC, a Canadian government study found that marijuana smoke inhaled through the lungs contains more harmful toxins than tobacco smoke. The study found 20 times more ammonia, which is linked to cancer, and five times more hydrogen cyanide (which can cause heart damage) and nitrogen oxides (which can cause lung damage) in pot smoke. Inhaling anything into your lungs can't be good for them, and with all of these toxic substances in marijuana smoke, it definitely isn't doing any favors.

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Idiot, go check the research properly, you'll find it is all THEORETICAL, put together by biased idiots like you and not based on actual facts. If it was true where are all the case of illness caused by cannabis? Why aren't our hospitals clogged up with them like they are with alcohol casualties? I don't deny that all drugs can be harmful but the question is how harmful and by every measure cannabis is MAGNITUDES safer than any other drug.
No point conversing with the terminally stupid.

InTheKnowOk wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.

And you don't understand what a responsible parent is if you think it's ok to let your kids take drugs ... No course on this earth would say any different ! Just like nobody would say it's ok take pot to get over a bereavement !!!!!!

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InTheKnowOk wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.

And you don't understand what a responsible parent is if you think it's ok to let your kids take drugs ... No course on this earth would say any different ! Just like nobody would say it's ok take pot to get over a bereavement !!!!!!

No sensible parent wants their kids to take any drugs, which includes alcohol and nicotine, but if they are going to do it whatever you say then you have to take a different strategy. What don't you understand about that? You are twisting my meaning and missing the point completely therefore you must be thick. Best go back to your shelf stacking at Tesco sunshine.

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InTheKnowOk wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.

And you don't understand what a responsible parent is if you think it's ok to let your kids take drugs ... No course on this earth would say any different ! Just like nobody would say it's ok take pot to get over a bereavement !!!!!!

No sensible parent wants their kids to take any drugs, which includes alcohol and nicotine, but if they are going to do it whatever you say then you have to take a different strategy. What don't you understand about that? You are twisting my meaning and missing the point completely therefore you must be thick. Best go back to your shelf stacking at Tesco sunshine.

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Most of the parents I know, most of whom are very clever professionals, would rather their kids had the odd smoke of cannabis than drink alcohol for the simple reason that they are about a zillion times less likely to come to harm after a smoke than if they went drinking. Cannabis smokers do not lose control of themselves or spew up all over the place or get in fights or die from overdoses and that is an undeniable fact. If you don't believe that go ask any Policeman or Doctor. Having said that, most of these parents do not actively encourage smoking and certainly don't want to see their kids actually doing it, but there are a couple of cases where the lesser evil has been to allow them to do it openly (such as the case I mentioned) which does at least mean that the parents can see exactly what the kids are doing and exert some control over it. If you can't understand that I do not believe you are a parent.

InTheKnowOk wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:

InTheKnowOk wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: Counselling is only useful if the subject is likely to co-operate. As I said you do not understand teenagers, end of (you're almost certainly a liar too aren't you?). Go do a course, I did.

And you don't understand what a responsible parent is if you think it's ok to let your kids take drugs ... No course on this earth would say any different ! Just like nobody would say it's ok take pot to get over a bereavement !!!!!!

No sensible parent wants their kids to take any drugs, which includes alcohol and nicotine, but if they are going to do it whatever you say then you have to take a different strategy. What don't you understand about that? You are twisting my meaning and missing the point completely therefore you must be thick. Best go back to your shelf stacking at Tesco sunshine.

'Thick shelf stacker' .... I'm sure Tesco employees would be very irate to read your nasty little comment, but do carry on as you are REALLY showing your true colours now lol

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Most of the parents I know, most of whom are very clever professionals, would rather their kids had the odd smoke of cannabis than drink alcohol for the simple reason that they are about a zillion times less likely to come to harm after a smoke than if they went drinking. Cannabis smokers do not lose control of themselves or spew up all over the place or get in fights or die from overdoses and that is an undeniable fact. If you don't believe that go ask any Policeman or Doctor. Having said that, most of these parents do not actively encourage smoking and certainly don't want to see their kids actually doing it, but there are a couple of cases where the lesser evil has been to allow them to do it openly (such as the case I mentioned) which does at least mean that the parents can see exactly what the kids are doing and exert some control over it. If you can't understand that I do not believe you are a parent.

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Most of the parents I know, most of whom are very clever professionals, would rather their kids had the odd smoke of cannabis than drink alcohol for the simple reason that they are about a zillion times less likely to come to harm after a smoke than if they went drinking. Cannabis smokers do not lose control of themselves or spew up all over the place or get in fights or die from overdoses and that is an undeniable fact. If you don't believe that go ask any Policeman or Doctor. Having said that, most of these parents do not actively encourage smoking and certainly don't want to see their kids actually doing it, but there are a couple of cases where the lesser evil has been to allow them to do it openly (such as the case I mentioned) which does at least mean that the parents can see exactly what the kids are doing and exert some control over it. If you can't understand that I do not believe you are a parent.

InTheKnowOk wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: Most of the parents I know, most of whom are very clever professionals, would rather their kids had the odd smoke of cannabis than drink alcohol for the simple reason that they are about a zillion times less likely to come to harm after a smoke than if they went drinking. Cannabis smokers do not lose control of themselves or spew up all over the place or get in fights or die from overdoses and that is an undeniable fact. If you don't believe that go ask any Policeman or Doctor. Having said that, most of these parents do not actively encourage smoking and certainly don't want to see their kids actually doing it, but there are a couple of cases where the lesser evil has been to allow them to do it openly (such as the case I mentioned) which does at least mean that the parents can see exactly what the kids are doing and exert some control over it. If you can't understand that I do not believe you are a parent.

Deluded beyond belief !

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...and I obviously hit the nail on the head when I called you a Tesco shelf stacker. Sometimes the truth hurts!

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One last try.
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Turn this on it's head, if my friends kids had taken to getting sloshed on alcohol every night so the parents let them drink at home rather than round a friends house - which gave them some influence on the situation - you wouldn't bat an eyelid would you? True? (remember one was 18 so alcohol was legal).
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Now consider, sensibly if you can, that they WERE getting sloshed most nights but they were also driving anything they could get their hands on and doing all sorts of other drugs too. Remember one of my friends is a teacher so they knew the signs as well having all the 60s experience.
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Now consider this, every other drug is provably MUCH more dangerous than cannabis and that includes alcohol which is one of the most dangerous drugs on earth. Starting to see the light yet? Any teenager could explain it to you.

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"Listen up, I don't agree to kids getting sloshed on drink, where did I say I did?"
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So you are a total prude who would have abandoned my friends kids to the streets? (cos if you think they would have gone to counselling you are living in cloud cuckoo land, they would have left home first).

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Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis.
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Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use.
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It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

Surprised at this from you. Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless.
Are you seriously suggesting you would encourage it's use?
Would hate to think drivers are on cannabis as much as alcohol.

SCSUFC wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: Naughty, naughty, shouldn't have stolen the electricity, but it was a waste of time prosecuting for the cannabis. . Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Two more American states voted to fully legalise cannabis the other week, that makes 24 states now where it's either fully legal or decriminalised or legal for medicinal use. . It's now legal or decriminalised in most of Australia, Canada, Holland, Portugal etc etc etc and half of America and you know what they say, whatever America does today we will we doing tomorrow. Bring it on!

Surprised at this from you. Cannabis use often leads to other drugs and is not harmless. Are you seriously suggesting you would encourage it's use? Would hate to think drivers are on cannabis as much as alcohol.

Can i just say, and I think most people agree, that alcohol is the real gateway drug.

Aint it just the truth wrote:

InTheKnowOk wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote: Rubbish, you will only find that if you do not understand the subject (as you don't) and/or you do not assess your sources properly. The bottom line is that there are thousands of times the number of alcohol casualties than there are cannabis casualties despite the fact that around 7 million people smoke weed in the UK. All the latest surveys say that the majority of people under 65 (critical age, as you know) would support the decriminalisation of cannabis. I would never "recommend" smoking cannabis (another silly question John)but I would agree that it is "up to them" and their "freedom of choice". . Let me tell you a story ... a few years ago friends of ours (he's a chartered surveyor, she's a teacher) lost their youngest child in an accident. Their older children took it badly and went off the rails, raiding Mum and Dad's drinks cabinet and started using drugs. Within a year or so they were getting drunk and then taking one of the family cars out joy-riding (silly phrase) and using lord knows what drugs so the parents offered the kids a solution, they told the kids they could smoke dope in the house if they stopped drinking alcohol and swiping the car, and it worked, the kids calmed down, knuckled down with their school/college work, went on to Uni and now they are both extremely useful members of society, one is a civil servant, the other an accountant, but if they had continued doing what they were doing they would probably have ended up a drunk driving statistic. Fortunately their parents (my generation) knew enough about these things to take what you would probably say was a daft decision, except it wasn't and it probably saved their lives. Open up your mind sir, Colorado and Washington are amongst the most sensible US states. Roll on the revolution!

SO what you are implying is if your kids get out of hand let them have a joint??? ....... You have got to be the biggest idiot on here for thinking that's the right way to bring up a teenager .. The only joint that would get past my front door is one that i'd carve on a Sunday .. There are NO USEFUL members of society that take drugs, NONE WHATSOEVER!

I'd guess you never got past Junior school as you don't seem to understand what the word 'implies' means. I never implied anything, I simply repeated a true story. And no useful members of society use drugs? What planet are you from? And how about alcohol, caffeine and nicotine, some of the most dangerous drugs known to man. Fool.
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Nebs, what I also said was "Every high street (in Holland) has a cafe where you can buy any kind of cannabis you want and there are loads of openly advertised cannabis home delivery services. How is that any different to 'legal'?"
How about answering that question?
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As usual Asbo has nothing useful or constructive to say, just silly comments and insults. And he claims to be a professional! Liar! Do the trolls never learn?

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Hello hello the troll from Crays Hill who knows nothing whatsoever about this subject has joined us. Do you never learn?
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Cannabis is legal, decriminalised, allowed for 'medicinal use' or tolerated in Colorado, Washington, 22 other states, most of Australia, Canada, Portugal, Switzerland, Holland etc etc etc.
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The law is not always right, not so long ago we could call travellers whatever we wanted couldn't we LL, was the law right then?

asbo industries inc wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
I'm not wasting my time with brainless trolss any more but mark my words, if you go over the top again I will have you removed, again. Got that?

but i thought you never complained about anyone on this website. the truth prevailing again?

InTheKnowOk wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Idiot, go check the research properly, you'll find it is all THEORETICAL, put together by biased idiots like you and not based on actual facts. If it was true where are all the case of illness caused by cannabis? Why aren't our hospitals clogged up with them like they are with alcohol casualties? I don't deny that all drugs can be harmful but the question is how harmful and by every measure cannabis is MAGNITUDES safer than any other drug.
No point conversing with the terminally stupid.

'Idiot and terminally stupid' .... wooooo .... more insults .... Maybe you need to take up anger management courses as well?

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Pedantic comment, as I said before. You can also buy cannabis from home delivery services who take your order on the phone and deliver it anywhere you want. Why buy on a street corner when every Dutch town I have been to has a cannabis cafe on the High Street and there are adverts everywhere for the home delivery sevices. By any normal standard that is no different to being legal!

Nebs wrote:

Aint it just the truth wrote:
Pedantic comment, as I said before. You can also buy cannabis from home delivery services who take your order on the phone and deliver it anywhere you want. Why buy on a street corner when every Dutch town I have been to has a cannabis cafe on the High Street and there are adverts everywhere for the home delivery sevices. By any normal standard that is no different to being legal!

But you said: Do you mean like Holland, the country which legalised cannabis decades ago.
I merely pointed out that your statement was factually incorrect. That you are unable to accept this, despite all the evidence, must surely cast doubt on all your other "facts".