Demand for more cops to tackle crimewave on Canvey (From Echo)

Here's an idea - open a Police Station on Canvey!!

"The robberies themselves are being handled by the Southend Target Offenders team"

There's the first problem.

Southend have enough problems of their own and as far as I was aware we come under the jurisdiction of Rayleigh police for out of hours support, not Southend. so why on Earth are Southend police going to prioritise Canvey problems where they don't know the local criminals/areas when they can look into stuff closer to home where their local knowledge is more likely to yield arrests.

"We are trying to ensure there are high visibility patrols in those areas to deter crime."

There's the second.

Stick a few visible patrols out and the criminals will simply back off then in 3 months, when the police deem their initiative has worked due to a reduction in these type of incidents, they'll pull those patrols and the same criminals will come out of the woodwork and resume where they left off.

The only way to stop this happening is to catch the perpetrators and hand out harsh sentences to send the message out that they can't do this on Canvey. Of course that will only work by having a dedicated Canvey police force who know the area, and know the local criminals so know exactly where to go knocking when this sort of thing happens but all of that sort of approach is going out of the window by closing stations.

I am sure having the cllrs photo taken will help!!! why wait until the 5th December, we were all told by CIIP that a Town council could sort this type of problem out.

No, usual rhetoric from the INDIES aid and abetted by the Echo with the photo opportunity and all we get is a higher Council tax for the bother.

Come on you INDIES do something other than moan and criticise, actually fulfil your promises.

This is an example of a how things are seriously wrong.

The cuts forced upon the Force mean closures, changes in Divisional Policing plus squads being formed to deal with problems which means they come they go then the trouble starts all over again.

Essex Police is in a mess an utter mess.

And no PCC who is supported, financed and under orders from the very Government who have ordered cuts and have an unhealthy obsession of destroying the very foundations that made this country great.

Essex Police has suffered badly their Officers are demoralized and their conditions of employment are under attack which is tragic when we as a public should be having the best, the fittest young Officers instead we are slowly getting the cheapest and the less trained (despite what they say) officers at a time when crime is increasing and the vulnerable are getting worried especially some elderly old folk living alone who worry if they are safe in their beds at night and are more concerned about worrying the Police than calling them.

Mr Nick Alston lets see you reverse the policy of this Government now before the situation becomes so bad that the army (which is just as bad) is needed to restore order.

I fully support Dave Blackwell .

Every day Canvey is in the paper for the wrong reasons. Police and Local government need to open their eyes and ears and sort this out because from the outside looking in this is a shambles.

How can policing be effective while this Government is making constant cuts.
Police morale must already be low when they are catching criminals and then the justice system lets them walk free. How demoralising. Then on top of that they have to solve crimes these criminals carry on committing and with less police.

When it is time to vote again try to remember how this government has cut all public services. Whether you're rich or poor these cuts will affect you because everybody suffers the results of crime because society as we know it deteriorates Everybody will also suffer adversely with cuts in health as many diseases don't have social barriers.

How can policing be effective while this Government is making constant cuts.
Police morale must already be low when they are catching criminals and then the justice system lets them walk free. How demoralising. Then on top of that they have to solve crimes these criminals carry on committing and with less police.

When it is time to vote again try to remember how this government has cut all public services. Whether you're rich or poor these cuts will affect you because everybody suffers the results of crime because society as we know it deteriorates Everybody will also suffer adversely with cuts in health as many diseases don't have social barriers.

Rebbeca are you listening?

" UPSET SAYS:: we were all told by CIIP that a Town council could sort this type of problem out.
**
Was we?
Sadly irrelevant of the Town Council's so called promises we are governed by government where policing is concernedl, I.E they make the decisions to increase or decrease policing and NOT the Town Council. So like it or not if you want to blame anyone blame your beloved Tories for reducing policing and closing much needed police stations. Or should we conveniently blame the "Council Officers" for the lack of policing. PMSL.....

Brunning999 wrote:
Rebbeca are you listening?

No she is to busy comforting Ray Howard after his brush with a mad man throwing stones at his windows.

iknowbetter wrote:
" UPSET SAYS:: we were all told by CIIP that a Town council could sort this type of problem out.
**
Was we?
Sadly irrelevant of the Town Council's so called promises we are governed by government where policing is concernedl, I.E they make the decisions to increase or decrease policing and NOT the Town Council. So like it or not if you want to blame anyone blame your beloved Tories for reducing policing and closing much needed police stations. Or should we conveniently blame the "Council Officers" for the lack of policing. PMSL.....

Go to the Town council website, last item on the What we do list is "Consultee on crime and disorder reduction.
I rest my case, more talking.

iknowbetter wrote:

Brunning999 wrote:
Rebbeca are you listening?

No she is to busy comforting Ray Howard after his brush with a mad man throwing stones at his windows.

Or looking for cameras to smile at.

Does anyone remember BWB?

upset wrote:

iknowbetter wrote:
" UPSET SAYS:: we were all told by CIIP that a Town council could sort this type of problem out.
**
Was we?
Sadly irrelevant of the Town Council's so called promises we are governed by government where policing is concernedl, I.E they make the decisions to increase or decrease policing and NOT the Town Council. So like it or not if you want to blame anyone blame your beloved Tories for reducing policing and closing much needed police stations. Or should we conveniently blame the "Council Officers" for the lack of policing. PMSL.....

Go to the Town council website, last item on the What we do list is "Consultee on crime and disorder reduction.
I rest my case, more talking.

where does it say what you have stated, I'll repeat it, you said, we were all told by CIIP that a Town council could sort this type of problem out.
**
So instead of making it up UPSET, try coming back to us when you understand the term Consultee, its a far cry from what you claim was stated. Or should we blame this one on the "Council Officers" PMSL.......

iknowbetter wrote:

upset wrote:

iknowbetter wrote:
" UPSET SAYS:: we were all told by CIIP that a Town council could sort this type of problem out.
**
Was we?
Sadly irrelevant of the Town Council's so called promises we are governed by government where policing is concernedl, I.E they make the decisions to increase or decrease policing and NOT the Town Council. So like it or not if you want to blame anyone blame your beloved Tories for reducing policing and closing much needed police stations. Or should we conveniently blame the "Council Officers" for the lack of policing. PMSL.....

Go to the Town council website, last item on the What we do list is "Consultee on crime and disorder reduction.
I rest my case, more talking.

where does it say what you have stated, I'll repeat it, you said, we were all told by CIIP that a Town council could sort this type of problem out.
**
So instead of making it up UPSET, try coming back to us when you understand the term Consultee, its a far cry from what you claim was stated. Or should we blame this one on the "Council Officers" PMSL.......

I can show what was promised all that time ago, but I know what we were promised, but the party CIIP still suggest they can influence crime, see here http://www.canveyisl
andindependentparty.
org.uk/Canvey_Island
_Independent_Party/O
ur_Policy.html.

upset wrote:

iknowbetter wrote:

upset wrote:

iknowbetter wrote:
" UPSET SAYS:: we were all told by CIIP that a Town council could sort this type of problem out.
**
Was we?
Sadly irrelevant of the Town Council's so called promises we are governed by government where policing is concernedl, I.E they make the decisions to increase or decrease policing and NOT the Town Council. So like it or not if you want to blame anyone blame your beloved Tories for reducing policing and closing much needed police stations. Or should we conveniently blame the "Council Officers" for the lack of policing. PMSL.....

Go to the Town council website, last item on the What we do list is "Consultee on crime and disorder reduction.
I rest my case, more talking.

where does it say what you have stated, I'll repeat it, you said, we were all told by CIIP that a Town council could sort this type of problem out.
**
So instead of making it up UPSET, try coming back to us when you understand the term Consultee, its a far cry from what you claim was stated. Or should we blame this one on the "Council Officers" PMSL.......

I can show what was promised all that time ago, but I know what we were promised, but the party CIIP still suggest they can influence crime, see here http://www.canveyisl

andindependentparty.

org.uk/Canvey_Island

_Independent_Party/O

ur_Policy.html.

You idiots are playing politics with a growing threat to law and order THAT IS WRONG IT IS DANGEROUS.

I am not interested in Politics, Politicians or blame I am only interested in feeling safe in my community, being protected from criminal thugs and being able to not have my property damaged or stolen.

And the truth is very very simple providing you are not hiding behind bloody smokescreens of the political tennis match.

It is simple we need to ensure Law and Order is maintained however much it costs the result of failure is simple: WE WILL LOSE EVERYTHING IN CHAOS AND DISORDER.

A 20% cut in Policing is a dangerous game to play when crime is obviously going to increase with growing unemployment and recession.

WHY DO WE NOT HEAR LOCAL POLITICIANS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE POLICE BUDGET CUTS?

If they really care for the area stop talking rollocks about efficiency s stop blaming each other just face reality before it is to late.

ACT NOW BEFORE IT IS TO LATE!

REBECCA Shout your disgust

NICK ALSTON do not accept the cuts

Ray Howard stuff the party whip disagree with the cuts

If we all must pay more 'so be it'. We must act before it is to late!!!

Brunning999 wrote:

upset wrote:

iknowbetter wrote:

upset wrote:

iknowbetter wrote:
" UPSET SAYS:: we were all told by CIIP that a Town council could sort this type of problem out.
**
Was we?
Sadly irrelevant of the Town Council's so called promises we are governed by government where policing is concernedl, I.E they make the decisions to increase or decrease policing and NOT the Town Council. So like it or not if you want to blame anyone blame your beloved Tories for reducing policing and closing much needed police stations. Or should we conveniently blame the "Council Officers" for the lack of policing. PMSL.....

Go to the Town council website, last item on the What we do list is "Consultee on crime and disorder reduction.
I rest my case, more talking.

where does it say what you have stated, I'll repeat it, you said, we were all told by CIIP that a Town council could sort this type of problem out.
**
So instead of making it up UPSET, try coming back to us when you understand the term Consultee, its a far cry from what you claim was stated. Or should we blame this one on the "Council Officers" PMSL.......

I can show what was promised all that time ago, but I know what we were promised, but the party CIIP still suggest they can influence crime, see here http://www.canveyisl


andindependentparty.


org.uk/Canvey_Island


_Independent_Party/O


ur_Policy.html.

You idiots are playing politics with a growing threat to law and order THAT IS WRONG IT IS DANGEROUS.

I am not interested in Politics, Politicians or blame I am only interested in feeling safe in my community, being protected from criminal thugs and being able to not have my property damaged or stolen.

And the truth is very very simple providing you are not hiding behind bloody smokescreens of the political tennis match.

It is simple we need to ensure Law and Order is maintained however much it costs the result of failure is simple: WE WILL LOSE EVERYTHING IN CHAOS AND DISORDER.

A 20% cut in Policing is a dangerous game to play when crime is obviously going to increase with growing unemployment and recession.

WHY DO WE NOT HEAR LOCAL POLITICIANS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE POLICE BUDGET CUTS?

If they really care for the area stop talking rollocks about efficiency s stop blaming each other just face reality before it is to late.

ACT NOW BEFORE IT IS TO LATE!

REBECCA Shout your disgust

NICK ALSTON do not accept the cuts

Ray Howard stuff the party whip disagree with the cuts

If we all must pay more 'so be it'. We must act before it is to late!!!

You either dont live on Canvey Island or you dont mind paying extra tax for the town council, who only do what we can do on here, moan, grown, criticise and make promises that cant or wont kept.
I agree with you, you get what you pay for, I along with a lot of Islanders would rather pay our Town council tax to the police budget, but 3,000 of over 40,000 residents were conned into believing that the INDIES could do what they promised, so we all now payer the price for WHAT!!!

UPSET says::: but 3,000 of over 40,000 residents were conned into believing that the INDIES could do what they promised, so we all now payer the price for WHAT!!!
***
The FACT is a whole lot less of the 40.000 residents think the Tories could do a better job!!! Or do you agree that to reduce policing and closing police stations is the way forward? Because the Tories DO!!

iknowbetter wrote:
UPSET says::: but 3,000 of over 40,000 residents were conned into believing that the INDIES could do what they promised, so we all now payer the price for WHAT!!!
***
The FACT is a whole lot less of the 40.000 residents think the Tories could do a better job!!! Or do you agree that to reduce policing and closing police stations is the way forward? Because the Tories DO!!

Yes, but the Tory's are trying to sort out the gigantic financial black whole that was left by war munger Tony Blair and his incompetent partners in crime within the Labour party. Which the CIIP leader was deputy leader of the then CPBC, until they would not let him stand for election as the Labour party MP when he threw his toys out of the pram and set up the Independent party.

You people do not get it!

Stop the Politics who bloody cares who says what ?

The only thing that matters is we all unite on the war against crime failure to do so helped by pathetic arguments about bloody politics is not helping.

1. Stop police budget cuts
2. Bring the Criminal Justice System in line with the views of the public.

What the Labour Party done is now history what the Tory's are doing ain't working.

Sort it out before its to late.

upset wrote:

iknowbetter wrote:
UPSET says::: but 3,000 of over 40,000 residents were conned into believing that the INDIES could do what they promised, so we all now payer the price for WHAT!!!
***
The FACT is a whole lot less of the 40.000 residents think the Tories could do a better job!!! Or do you agree that to reduce policing and closing police stations is the way forward? Because the Tories DO!!

Yes, but the Tory's are trying to sort out the gigantic financial black whole that was left by war munger Tony Blair and his incompetent partners in crime within the Labour party. Which the CIIP leader was deputy leader of the then CPBC, until they would not let him stand for election as the Labour party MP when he threw his toys out of the pram and set up the Independent party.

Why am im not suprised that you blame anyone and everyone except the the people that should/could do something about the increasing crime rates, those currently in power, instead of throwing blame around its about time now the Tories did something positive about it instead of reducing it..

upset wrote:

iknowbetter wrote:
UPSET says::: but 3,000 of over 40,000 residents were conned into believing that the INDIES could do what they promised, so we all now payer the price for WHAT!!!
***
The FACT is a whole lot less of the 40.000 residents think the Tories could do a better job!!! Or do you agree that to reduce policing and closing police stations is the way forward? Because the Tories DO!!

Yes, but the Tory's are trying to sort out the gigantic financial black whole that was left by war munger Tony Blair and his incompetent partners in crime within the Labour party. Which the CIIP leader was deputy leader of the then CPBC, until they would not let him stand for election as the Labour party MP when he threw his toys out of the pram and set up the Independent party.

Why am im not suprised that you blame anyone and everyone except the the people that should/could do something about the increasing crime rates, those currently in power, instead of throwing blame around its about time now the Tories did something positive about it instead of reducing it..

upset wrote:

iknowbetter wrote:
UPSET says::: but 3,000 of over 40,000 residents were conned into believing that the INDIES could do what they promised, so we all now payer the price for WHAT!!!
***
The FACT is a whole lot less of the 40.000 residents think the Tories could do a better job!!! Or do you agree that to reduce policing and closing police stations is the way forward? Because the Tories DO!!

Yes, but the Tory's are trying to sort out the gigantic financial black whole that was left by war munger Tony Blair and his incompetent partners in crime within the Labour party. Which the CIIP leader was deputy leader of the then CPBC, until they would not let him stand for election as the Labour party MP when he threw his toys out of the pram and set up the Independent party.

Why am im not suprised that you blame anyone and everyone except the the people that should/could do something about the increasing crime rates, those currently in power, instead of throwing blame around its about time now the Tories did something positive about it instead of reducing it..

iknowbetter wrote:

upset wrote:

iknowbetter wrote:
UPSET says::: but 3,000 of over 40,000 residents were conned into believing that the INDIES could do what they promised, so we all now payer the price for WHAT!!!
***
The FACT is a whole lot less of the 40.000 residents think the Tories could do a better job!!! Or do you agree that to reduce policing and closing police stations is the way forward? Because the Tories DO!!

Yes, but the Tory's are trying to sort out the gigantic financial black whole that was left by war munger Tony Blair and his incompetent partners in crime within the Labour party. Which the CIIP leader was deputy leader of the then CPBC, until they would not let him stand for election as the Labour party MP when he threw his toys out of the pram and set up the Independent party.

Why am im not suprised that you blame anyone and everyone except the the people that should/could do something about the increasing crime rates, those currently in power, instead of throwing blame around its about time now the Tories did something positive about it instead of reducing it..

I heard you the first time but I still dont believe you

Believe me? What is there to believe, its as clear as day. Remove those Tory rose tinted glasses you might see for yourself..