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Updated: Motorcyclist killed in A127 crash
4:40pm Tuesday 4th December 2012 in Local News By Gina Marden
Updated: Motorcyclist killed in A127 pile-up
A BIKER died instantly after colliding with a lorry on the A127.
Witnesses claim the motorcyclist - a 43-year-old man from Southend - may have skidded on black ice.
The crash, which happened at 6.40am today closed the London-bound carriageway for more than six hours while police and emergency crews dealt with the scene.
The closure of the busy dual carriageway caused traffic chaos in and around Basildon as motorists desperately tried to find alternative routes.
Get the latest traffic report here: http://www.echo-news.co.uk/li/traffic_and_travel.in.Basildon/
Motorcyclist killed on A127
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Comments(37)
chunkus10
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8:46am Tue 4 Dec 12
i hope to god that the biker is ok...... i was just beind the accident this morning, i had let the biker past me only a few minutes earlier.. As i past the sene it didnt look good. my thoughts are with eveyone involved ....
Sarah L H
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9:31am Tue 4 Dec 12
chunkus10
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10:11am Tue 4 Dec 12
GentleGiant wrote:YES i beleive he was, as my earlier post stated i let this biker past me just before the accident... he wasnt speeding or riding in a dangerous manor at that time, less that 3 mins later i drove past him laying spead egaled in the outside lane, with someone directing the traffic around him. my thoughts are with the victims family at this sad time... and also with those involved,
What a surprise it involved a biker! Was he/she riding the bike in accordance with the law? i .e. not undercutting, exceeding the speed limit etc....
Eric Whim
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10:35am Tue 4 Dec 12
jpw0809
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10:48am Tue 4 Dec 12
Speedysnail
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12:04pm Tue 4 Dec 12
Gentlegiant......Let
s not start a Biker hating campaign mate but instead think about the sad news that a person has died because of an ACCIDENT.
andrewmiamia
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12:22pm Tue 4 Dec 12
chunkus10 wrote:I am saddened by the news yet incensed by the comment made by GentleGiant. Bikers in general at that time in the morning are going to work just like everyone else. If car drivers used the lanes as they should rather than hog the outside lane then bikers wouldn't feel the need to go down the inside. I ride the A127 every day, there are a small number of car drivers who maintain good lane discipline, Van drivers are much better and Lorrys are great. I always acknowledge any vehicle moving to let me pass. come on you poor car drivers, letting a bike through takes a second or 2, don't be obstructive, It may just cost us our life!!!
GentleGiant wrote:YES i beleive he was, as my earlier post stated i let this biker past me just before the accident... he wasnt speeding or riding in a dangerous manor at that time, less that 3 mins later i drove past him laying spead egaled in the outside lane, with someone directing the traffic around him. my thoughts are with the victims family at this sad time... and also with those involved,
What a surprise it involved a biker! Was he/she riding the bike in accordance with the law? i .e. not undercutting, exceeding the speed limit etc....
jpw0809
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12:30pm Tue 4 Dec 12
andrewmiamia wrote:+1
chunkus10 wrote:I am saddened by the news yet incensed by the comment made by GentleGiant. Bikers in general at that time in the morning are going to work just like everyone else. If car drivers used the lanes as they should rather than hog the outside lane then bikers wouldn't feel the need to go down the inside. I ride the A127 every day, there are a small number of car drivers who maintain good lane discipline, Van drivers are much better and Lorrys are great. I always acknowledge any vehicle moving to let me pass. come on you poor car drivers, letting a bike through takes a second or 2, don't be obstructive, It may just cost us our life!!!
GentleGiant wrote:YES i beleive he was, as my earlier post stated i let this biker past me just before the accident... he wasnt speeding or riding in a dangerous manor at that time, less that 3 mins later i drove past him laying spead egaled in the outside lane, with someone directing the traffic around him. my thoughts are with the victims family at this sad time... and also with those involved,
What a surprise it involved a biker! Was he/she riding the bike in accordance with the law? i .e. not undercutting, exceeding the speed limit etc....
J_blond
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12:57pm Tue 4 Dec 12
Such tragic news, and my thoughts are with their friends and family. RIP
GentleGiant
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1:08pm Tue 4 Dec 12
However that does not change my view that many bikers are a danger to themselves and others in the way they ride.
Of course this person, who's family are now affected by this tragedy, may have been a decent biker and therefore RIP.
sford13
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2:16pm Tue 4 Dec 12
Olivia2847
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2:23pm Tue 4 Dec 12
jpw0809 wrote:Exactly !
Such sad news. Especially at this time of year. RIP
cathyw
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2:40pm Tue 4 Dec 12
pendulum
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3:45pm Tue 4 Dec 12
GentleGiant wrote:"Many bikers are a danger to themselves and others". Yes. Many car drivers are a danger to themselves and even more of a danger to others. There are fools in any walk of life, and quite a lot of them.
My earlier post was made prior to the news that someone had died - my post along with others were removed, quite rightly.
However that does not change my view that many bikers are a danger to themselves and others in the way they ride.
Of course this person, who's family are now affected by this tragedy, may have been a decent biker and therefore RIP.
If you're of the opinion bikers are the worst of the bunch, though, think again. You've only seen it from a car driver perspective. Spend a few days on a bike or ask a dual licence holder for his or her opinion, and then you'll understand. And quite why you think it appropriate to voice an anti-bike opinion in a thread where a biker died is beyond me.
RIP.
firedog
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4:28pm Tue 4 Dec 12
soul man
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4:33pm Tue 4 Dec 12
GSF650
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4:44pm Tue 4 Dec 12
tg
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5:42pm Tue 4 Dec 12
chunkus10 wrote:it is not always the bikers fault - 90% of the time it is the CAR DRIVERS fault as they dont look out for motorcyclists - My thoughts go out to all the families involved
GentleGiant wrote:YES i beleive he was, as my earlier post stated i let this biker past me just before the accident... he wasnt speeding or riding in a dangerous manor at that time, less that 3 mins later i drove past him laying spead egaled in the outside lane, with someone directing the traffic around him. my thoughts are with the victims family at this sad time... and also with those involved,
What a surprise it involved a biker! Was he/she riding the bike in accordance with the law? i .e. not undercutting, exceeding the speed limit etc....
tg
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5:46pm Tue 4 Dec 12
chunkus10 wrote:IT IS NOT ALWAYS THE BIKERS FAULT - 90% OF THE ACCIDENTS ARE CAUSED DUE TO DRIVERS NOT LOOKING OUT FOR BIKES - My thoughts go out to all the families involved today - RIP
GentleGiant wrote:YES i beleive he was, as my earlier post stated i let this biker past me just before the accident... he wasnt speeding or riding in a dangerous manor at that time, less that 3 mins later i drove past him laying spead egaled in the outside lane, with someone directing the traffic around him. my thoughts are with the victims family at this sad time... and also with those involved,
What a surprise it involved a biker! Was he/she riding the bike in accordance with the law? i .e. not undercutting, exceeding the speed limit etc....
sford13
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6:05pm Tue 4 Dec 12
pendulum wrote:Never judge someone without the full facts, the moment I see the accident the bike was only going about 50 mph And in a straight line he was driving very safely I hope I never have to witness something like this ever again in my life again, this was just a guy trying to earn a living trying to get to work, think before you judge someone this was just a freak accident...
GentleGiant wrote:"Many bikers are a danger to themselves and others". Yes. Many car drivers are a danger to themselves and even more of a danger to others. There are fools in any walk of life, and quite a lot of them.
My earlier post was made prior to the news that someone had died - my post along with others were removed, quite rightly.
However that does not change my view that many bikers are a danger to themselves and others in the way they ride.
Of course this person, who's family are now affected by this tragedy, may have been a decent biker and therefore RIP.
If you're of the opinion bikers are the worst of the bunch, though, think again. You've only seen it from a car driver perspective. Spend a few days on a bike or ask a dual licence holder for his or her opinion, and then you'll understand. And quite why you think it appropriate to voice an anti-bike opinion in a thread where a biker died is beyond me.
RIP.
R.i.p my friend
GentleGiant
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9:28pm Tue 4 Dec 12
I am quite sure given the info above that this was a tragic accident and I feel for his family at this time.
I will rethink any future comments and learn from this.
RIP
clare999
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10:20pm Tue 4 Dec 12
Antonius
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10:45pm Tue 4 Dec 12
I must admit that knowing how ultra sensitive the Echo Staff are to certain stories that have a habit of going pear shaped. To the point of not allowing posts on "certain" stories at all, that they allow comments on any story relating to motorcycle accidents.
Blind Haze
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2:24am Wed 5 Dec 12
As an aside, I think the Echo needs to be careful when it comes to updating stories and not reviewing the comments. Well intended comments such as Chunkus10's first post can in hindsight often be misconstrued.
VickiSimpson
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2:56am Wed 5 Dec 12
Thankyou for your comments
rodgdodge
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7:03am Wed 5 Dec 12
VickiSimpson wrote:Thank you so much for your input Vicki at this time.
I just want to say, this is my husband Chris who was taken from us so suddenly today, he was an amazing husband, a wonderful Dad and my best friend. As mentioned before he was just trying to get to work to earn a living to support his family. He loved riding that bike and I know how careful he was as i have been out riding with him so many times on the back. I can't begin to tell you how this has affected us today. I can't believe how cruel this world is sometimes. You sleep well sweets xxx
Thankyou for your comments
I believe guys like him are truly ,the unspoken Hero`s ( just as much as our boys and girls serving in the forces!) in our society.
Getting up at an unearthly hour to go to work, to support his family in all weathers and conditions.
And sford13. I hope you will be able somehow, manage to cope with this shocking incident you witnessed.
rodgdodge
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7:11am Wed 5 Dec 12
foxymain
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7:21am Wed 5 Dec 12
sford13
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7:26am Wed 5 Dec 12
InTheKnowOk
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9:13am Wed 5 Dec 12
GentleGiant
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9:53am Wed 5 Dec 12
VickiSimpson wrote:So sorry for your loss.
I just want to say, this is my husband Chris who was taken from us so suddenly today, he was an amazing husband, a wonderful Dad and my best friend. As mentioned before he was just trying to get to work to earn a living to support his family. He loved riding that bike and I know how careful he was as i have been out riding with him so many times on the back. I can't begin to tell you how this has affected us today. I can't believe how cruel this world is sometimes. You sleep well sweets xxx
Thankyou for your comments
My thoughts and prayers are with you at this time.
chunkus10
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11:34am Wed 5 Dec 12
VickiSimpson wrote:no amount of words can descibe the pain you must be in right now.
I just want to say, this is my husband Chris who was taken from us so suddenly today, he was an amazing husband, a wonderful Dad and my best friend. As mentioned before he was just trying to get to work to earn a living to support his family. He loved riding that bike and I know how careful he was as i have been out riding with him so many times on the back. I can't begin to tell you how this has affected us today. I can't believe how cruel this world is sometimes. You sleep well sweets xxx Thankyou for your comments
i just want to offer my sincere condolances at this sad time.
i hope that your husband is now in a better place and looking down on his loved ones.
rip xx sleep well xx
Baker-Boy
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1:18pm Wed 5 Dec 12
GSF650
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4:36pm Wed 5 Dec 12
r12004
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8:04pm Wed 5 Dec 12
Thoughts tonight with the family and friends
Devils Advocate
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10:19pm Wed 5 Dec 12
StuckInTraffic says...
8:30am Tue 4 Dec 12