Woman refuses to leave clamped car in protest at £695 fine (From Echo)

emcee says...
1:22pm Thu 10 Jan 13

OK, the law is the law but 8 seconds? Clearly a case of overzelous jobsworths.
Involvement of baliffs should only ever be done if it is to recover fines imposed by the court. This lady has not had her day in court because these parking cases are often mass cleared through a clearing court without the knowledge of the vehicle owners. This practice should stop.

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J_blond says...
1:29pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Funny, The BBC suggest that the clamp was stolen... and the removal had nothing to do with the Echo's intervention?

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J_blond says...
1:30pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Of course this is the line in the story I'm referring to... "However, after the Echo intervened the clamp was later removed and the council has now promised to review the case."

The Echo even contradicts itself later on!

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Nebs says...
1:50pm Thu 10 Jan 13

She said: 'It’s annoying. I keep thinking eight seconds and now I owe them £700!' No. The 8 seconds cost you £35. It is your failure to pay that has cost the rest.

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r6keith says...
1:57pm Thu 10 Jan 13

I am now begining to understand why we had the story the other day about the £167 that Mrs Hatton owed for a parking fine. The original fine was just £35 you should have accepted that you were wrong and paid the laws are quite clear on these matters. If you had paid you would now not have bailiffs clamping your car after a much larger amount as these amounts seem to grow very quickly. I suspect that Mrs Hatton knew this larger amount existed and was trying to get support on board via the paper to avoid payment. Sorry Mrs Hatton you dug the hole now get out of it.

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John T Pharro says...
2:05pm Thu 10 Jan 13

r6keith wrote:
I am now begining to understand why we had the story the other day about the £167 that Mrs Hatton owed for a parking fine. The original fine was just £35 you should have accepted that you were wrong and paid the laws are quite clear on these matters. If you had paid you would now not have bailiffs clamping your car after a much larger amount as these amounts seem to grow very quickly. I suspect that Mrs Hatton knew this larger amount existed and was trying to get support on board via the paper to avoid payment. Sorry Mrs Hatton you dug the hole now get out of it.

Afraid that is correct much as many people sympathise. If it was in a bus stop with solid yellow lines you cannot stop at all. Actually on a double yellow you can stop and let passengers out. As her husband is a taxi driver I thought he would have known that.

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Shoebury_Cyclist says...
3:23pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Should have just paid the £35 original fine for parking illegally.

No sympathy for her.

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Max 269 says...
3:26pm Thu 10 Jan 13

"I want my day in court" grow up.

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Southend dave says...
3:53pm Thu 10 Jan 13

She claimed she was only stopped for 8 seconds when dropping off her SICK 84 YEAR OLD father. Don't mean to be rude but I strongly doubt that she was only stopped for 8 seconds. Even dropping off a a young healthy person would probably take longer! Should have paid the £35 at the time. As for wanting her time in court, it would probably end up costing a lot more than she owes now once costs are added!

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jayman says...
3:55pm Thu 10 Jan 13

she should have insured that the clamper had a valid licence to clamp/immobilise a vehicle. search the list here.

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you would be surprised how many are operating with invalid or expired licenses.

a bailiff is required by law to provide you with license number and court order to levy goods.

ensure you get a date in court.

any fine leading to the removal of goods must go before a magistrate. otherwise it is not a fine (it a penalty notice) and goods cannot be removed without a court fine.

lock it away.

if a bailiff comes to your house 'don't let them in' unless it is for non payment of council tax or they have a warrant from the courts (ask to see it) then they can only make 'peaceful entry' they cannot levy goods that they cannot see. keep your car in a garage or park up a fare distance away from your house.

do not let them in. If they attempt to force an entry 'call the police'

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jayman says...
3:59pm Thu 10 Jan 13

if you need to park whilst out and about, make sure you park in a multi story car park.

good luck trying to get a tow truck in one of them.

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Southend dave says...
4:11pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Also, she must have expected this at some point had multiple letters warning of fines rising and risks of non payment. All of these would have been accompanied with details of how to appeal the PCN. If appealing with the council fails then there is the independent tribunal process (which is free and you don't even have to attend!) if she didn't use this appeal process then she's only got herself to blame.

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firedog says...
4:27pm Thu 10 Jan 13

I should think she has probably used all the appeal channels,so has now gone to the Echo who like a good parking story.Should have payed up at the time.

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Carnabackable says...
4:27pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Another example of why car insurance, for women is shooting up -high time..

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Rich"Carol says...
4:44pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Unless we start to do something about clampers, spycars and wardens collecting revenue we will all be yes sir no sir withing 5 years. Big brother wasnt suppossed to be like this as it now like a nazi society. Givem a uniform and its back tp the 30s. Come on people stop sitting behind your curtains and big big. This country is full of mice not men.

Theres parking and theres naughty parking. If the offence is diobilcle then ticket them, but these gestapo do not have an ounce of common sense what so ever.

Ive had around 9 tickets and only appealed on 2 and won both appeals. If I have parked wrongly then yes ticket the vehicle, dropping someone off or picking someone up in a matter of under 10 seconds should not be a ticket.

I got a £100 fine for stopping on the yellow boxes on a turn right junction. But I never stopped and the camera dont lie. I pleaded in Snaresbrook crown Court NOT GUILTY and was told if Im found guilty on the camera evidance I may have had a £250 fine plus prosecuting costs. I was so sure I never stopped and my solicitor asked for the evidence of the moving camera of 43 seconds. I got not guilty as I was moving and was not stationary. Come on people we gotta stop these Nazi like we did in the 1930s

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stopmoaning1 says...
4:51pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Ah yes, the story the other day makes sense now, building up to this.
To reiterate;
Setting down or picking up on double yellow lines = legal
Setting down or picking up on solid wide yellow bus stop line for 1 second = illegal
Setting down or picking up on solid wide yellow bus stop line for 2 seconds = illegal
Setting down or picking up on solid wide yellow bus stop line for 3 seconds = illegal
Do you see the pattern here, it goes right up to 7 seven seconds from the story the other day, to 8 seconds in today’s story
Pay up or shut up

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Shoebury_Cyclist says...
4:51pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Rich"Carol wrote:
Unless we start to do something about clampers, spycars and wardens collecting revenue we will all be yes sir no sir withing 5 years. Big brother wasnt suppossed to be like this as it now like a nazi society. Givem a uniform and its back tp the 30s. Come on people stop sitting behind your curtains and big big. This country is full of mice not men.

Theres parking and theres naughty parking. If the offence is diobilcle then ticket them, but these gestapo do not have an ounce of common sense what so ever.

Ive had around 9 tickets and only appealed on 2 and won both appeals. If I have parked wrongly then yes ticket the vehicle, dropping someone off or picking someone up in a matter of under 10 seconds should not be a ticket.

I got a £100 fine for stopping on the yellow boxes on a turn right junction. But I never stopped and the camera dont lie. I pleaded in Snaresbrook crown Court NOT GUILTY and was told if Im found guilty on the camera evidance I may have had a £250 fine plus prosecuting costs. I was so sure I never stopped and my solicitor asked for the evidence of the moving camera of 43 seconds. I got not guilty as I was moving and was not stationary. Come on people we gotta stop these Nazi like we did in the 1930s

Obey the law and you won't be fined. Don't park illegally you won't be fined. Don't enter a box junction if the exit is blocked and you won't be fined.

Simple really.

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stopmoaning1 says...
4:59pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Rich"Carol wrote:
Unless we start to do something about clampers, spycars and wardens collecting revenue we will all be yes sir no sir withing 5 years. Big brother wasnt suppossed to be like this as it now like a nazi society. Givem a uniform and its back tp the 30s. Come on people stop sitting behind your curtains and big big. This country is full of mice not men.

Theres parking and theres naughty parking. If the offence is diobilcle then ticket them, but these gestapo do not have an ounce of common sense what so ever.

Ive had around 9 tickets and only appealed on 2 and won both appeals. If I have parked wrongly then yes ticket the vehicle, dropping someone off or picking someone up in a matter of under 10 seconds should not be a ticket.

I got a £100 fine for stopping on the yellow boxes on a turn right junction. But I never stopped and the camera dont lie. I pleaded in Snaresbrook crown Court NOT GUILTY and was told if Im found guilty on the camera evidance I may have had a £250 fine plus prosecuting costs. I was so sure I never stopped and my solicitor asked for the evidence of the moving camera of 43 seconds. I got not guilty as I was moving and was not stationary. Come on people we gotta stop these Nazi like we did in the 1930s
Obey the law and you won't be fined. Don't park illegally you won't be fined. Don't enter a box junction if the exit is blocked and you won't be fined.

Simple really.

‘CROWN’ court for a yellow box ticket. Do you really expect people to believe you had a full trial with twelve sworn men and true of the jury for this. Get real. Sort of discredits the rest of your entry really doesn’t it

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Keptquiettillnow says...
5:04pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Pay up, stop moaning or do not drive.

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Carnabackable says...
5:06pm Thu 10 Jan 13

stopmoaning1 wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Rich"Carol wrote:
Unless we start to do something about clampers, spycars and wardens collecting revenue we will all be yes sir no sir withing 5 years. Big brother wasnt suppossed to be like this as it now like a nazi society. Givem a uniform and its back tp the 30s. Come on people stop sitting behind your curtains and big big. This country is full of mice not men.

Theres parking and theres naughty parking. If the offence is diobilcle then ticket them, but these gestapo do not have an ounce of common sense what so ever.

Ive had around 9 tickets and only appealed on 2 and won both appeals. If I have parked wrongly then yes ticket the vehicle, dropping someone off or picking someone up in a matter of under 10 seconds should not be a ticket.

I got a £100 fine for stopping on the yellow boxes on a turn right junction. But I never stopped and the camera dont lie. I pleaded in Snaresbrook crown Court NOT GUILTY and was told if Im found guilty on the camera evidance I may have had a £250 fine plus prosecuting costs. I was so sure I never stopped and my solicitor asked for the evidence of the moving camera of 43 seconds. I got not guilty as I was moving and was not stationary. Come on people we gotta stop these Nazi like we did in the 1930s
Obey the law and you won't be fined. Don't park illegally you won't be fined. Don't enter a box junction if the exit is blocked and you won't be fined.

Simple really.
‘CROWN’ court for a yellow box ticket. Do you really expect people to believe you had a full trial with twelve sworn men and true of the jury for this. Get real. Sort of discredits the rest of your entry really doesn’t it

Be a Magistrates court at the most, thats if you even went....

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stopmoaning1 says...
5:11pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Rich"Carol wrote:
Unless we start to do something about clampers, spycars and wardens collecting revenue we will all be yes sir no sir withing 5 years. Big brother wasnt suppossed to be like this as it now like a nazi society. Givem a uniform and its back tp the 30s. Come on people stop sitting behind your curtains and big big. This country is full of mice not men.

Theres parking and theres naughty parking. If the offence is diobilcle then ticket them, but these gestapo do not have an ounce of common sense what so ever.

Ive had around 9 tickets and only appealed on 2 and won both appeals. If I have parked wrongly then yes ticket the vehicle, dropping someone off or picking someone up in a matter of under 10 seconds should not be a ticket.

I got a £100 fine for stopping on the yellow boxes on a turn right junction. But I never stopped and the camera dont lie. I pleaded in Snaresbrook crown Court NOT GUILTY and was told if Im found guilty on the camera evidance I may have had a £250 fine plus prosecuting costs. I was so sure I never stopped and my solicitor asked for the evidence of the moving camera of 43 seconds. I got not guilty as I was moving and was not stationary. Come on people we gotta stop these Nazi like we did in the 1930s

Parking and naughty parking, or even diabolical parking. Is that the same as burglary, naughty burglary and diabolical burglary. Good job the jury didnt find you guilty of really really naughty stopping in the yellow box or it have been off with your head

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Druggie Scumbag says...
5:45pm Thu 10 Jan 13

"........ it have been off with your head".

As you may have noticed, stopmoaning, Rich"Carol is already off her/his head.

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Rich"Carol says...
6:32pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Carnabackable wrote:

stopmoaning1 wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Rich"Carol wrote:
Unless we start to do something about clampers, spycars and wardens collecting revenue we will all be yes sir no sir withing 5 years. Big brother wasnt suppossed to be like this as it now like a nazi society. Givem a uniform and its back tp the 30s. Come on people stop sitting behind your curtains and big big. This country is full of mice not men.

Theres parking and theres naughty parking. If the offence is diobilcle then ticket them, but these gestapo do not have an ounce of common sense what so ever.

Ive had around 9 tickets and only appealed on 2 and won both appeals. If I have parked wrongly then yes ticket the vehicle, dropping someone off or picking someone up in a matter of under 10 seconds should not be a ticket.

I got a £100 fine for stopping on the yellow boxes on a turn right junction. But I never stopped and the camera dont lie. I pleaded in Snaresbrook crown Court NOT GUILTY and was told if Im found guilty on the camera evidance I may have had a £250 fine plus prosecuting costs. I was so sure I never stopped and my solicitor asked for the evidence of the moving camera of 43 seconds. I got not guilty as I was moving and was not stationary. Come on people we gotta stop these Nazi like we did in the 1930s
Obey the law and you won't be fined. Don't park illegally you won't be fined. Don't enter a box junction if the exit is blocked and you won't be fined.

Simple really.
‘CROWN’ court for a yellow box ticket. Do you really expect people to believe you had a full trial with twelve sworn men and true of the jury for this. Get real. Sort of discredits the rest of your entry really doesn’t it
Be a Magistrates court at the most, thats if you even went....

Shows you how thick you are, If you appeal a driving offence or parking offence you cannot have a jury. You have on Judge and his verdict is the final verdict with no appeal. You have to be heard in magistrates first and then ask for Crown. Learn listen and dont make comments of things you dont understand

[quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stopmoaning1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoebury_Cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich"Carol[/bold] wrote: Unless we start to do something about clampers, spycars and wardens collecting revenue we will all be yes sir no sir withing 5 years. Big brother wasnt suppossed to be like this as it now like a nazi society. Givem a uniform and its back tp the 30s. Come on people stop sitting behind your curtains and big big. This country is full of mice not men. Theres parking and theres naughty parking. If the offence is diobilcle then ticket them, but these gestapo do not have an ounce of common sense what so ever. Ive had around 9 tickets and only appealed on 2 and won both appeals. If I have parked wrongly then yes ticket the vehicle, dropping someone off or picking someone up in a matter of under 10 seconds should not be a ticket. I got a £100 fine for stopping on the yellow boxes on a turn right junction. But I never stopped and the camera dont lie. I pleaded in Snaresbrook crown Court NOT GUILTY and was told if Im found guilty on the camera evidance I may have had a £250 fine plus prosecuting costs. I was so sure I never stopped and my solicitor asked for the evidence of the moving camera of 43 seconds. I got not guilty as I was moving and was not stationary. Come on people we gotta stop these Nazi like we did in the 1930s[/p][/quote]Obey the law and you won't be fined. Don't park illegally you won't be fined. Don't enter a box junction if the exit is blocked and you won't be fined. Simple really.[/p][/quote]‘CROWN’ court for a yellow box ticket. Do you really expect people to believe you had a full trial with twelve sworn men and true of the jury for this. Get real. Sort of discredits the rest of your entry really doesn’t it[/p][/quote]Be a Magistrates court at the most, thats if you even went....[/p][/quote]Shows you how thick you are, If you appeal a driving offence or parking offence you cannot have a jury. You have on Judge and his verdict is the final verdict with no appeal. You have to be heard in magistrates first and then ask for Crown. Learn listen and dont make comments of things you dont understand Rich"Carol

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Rich"Carol says...
6:44pm Thu 10 Jan 13

stopmoaning1 wrote:

Rich"Carol wrote:
Unless we start to do something about clampers, spycars and wardens collecting revenue we will all be yes sir no sir withing 5 years. Big brother wasnt suppossed to be like this as it now like a nazi society. Givem a uniform and its back tp the 30s. Come on people stop sitting behind your curtains and big big. This country is full of mice not men.

Theres parking and theres naughty parking. If the offence is diobilcle then ticket them, but these gestapo do not have an ounce of common sense what so ever.

Ive had around 9 tickets and only appealed on 2 and won both appeals. If I have parked wrongly then yes ticket the vehicle, dropping someone off or picking someone up in a matter of under 10 seconds should not be a ticket.

I got a £100 fine for stopping on the yellow boxes on a turn right junction. But I never stopped and the camera dont lie. I pleaded in Snaresbrook crown Court NOT GUILTY and was told if Im found guilty on the camera evidance I may have had a £250 fine plus prosecuting costs. I was so sure I never stopped and my solicitor asked for the evidence of the moving camera of 43 seconds. I got not guilty as I was moving and was not stationary. Come on people we gotta stop these Nazi like we did in the 1930s
Parking and naughty parking, or even diabolical parking. Is that the same as burglary, naughty burglary and diabolical burglary. Good job the jury didnt find you guilty of really really naughty stopping in the yellow box or it have been off with your head

Yes there are 3 kinds of Burglary.

Yes theres different kinds of burglary

(1) If someone forces open a door in a shop and steals a pint of milk and a bag of crisps thats burglary. Not theft its burglary

(2) If someone enters a locked dwelling or building and steals the till thats Burglary

(3) If you are asleep and a person breaks into your home and steals your items thats also burglary.

So there is burglary and 2 and 3 is diabolical

[quote][p][bold]stopmoaning1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich"Carol[/bold] wrote: Unless we start to do something about clampers, spycars and wardens collecting revenue we will all be yes sir no sir withing 5 years. Big brother wasnt suppossed to be like this as it now like a nazi society. Givem a uniform and its back tp the 30s. Come on people stop sitting behind your curtains and big big. This country is full of mice not men. Theres parking and theres naughty parking. If the offence is diobilcle then ticket them, but these gestapo do not have an ounce of common sense what so ever. Ive had around 9 tickets and only appealed on 2 and won both appeals. If I have parked wrongly then yes ticket the vehicle, dropping someone off or picking someone up in a matter of under 10 seconds should not be a ticket. I got a £100 fine for stopping on the yellow boxes on a turn right junction. But I never stopped and the camera dont lie. I pleaded in Snaresbrook crown Court NOT GUILTY and was told if Im found guilty on the camera evidance I may have had a £250 fine plus prosecuting costs. I was so sure I never stopped and my solicitor asked for the evidence of the moving camera of 43 seconds. I got not guilty as I was moving and was not stationary. Come on people we gotta stop these Nazi like we did in the 1930s[/p][/quote]Parking and naughty parking, or even diabolical parking. Is that the same as burglary, naughty burglary and diabolical burglary. Good job the jury didnt find you guilty of really really naughty stopping in the yellow box or it have been off with your head[/p][/quote]Yes there are 3 kinds of Burglary. Yes theres different kinds of burglary (1) If someone forces open a door in a shop and steals a pint of milk and a bag of crisps thats burglary. Not theft its burglary (2) If someone enters a locked dwelling or building and steals the till thats Burglary (3) If you are asleep and a person breaks into your home and steals your items thats also burglary. So there is burglary and 2 and 3 is diabolical Rich"Carol

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Rich"Carol says...
6:49pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Are you people saying that if you got a letter stating you had been stationary on yellow boxes and you should send your driving licence to DVLA to get 3 points and you knew you didnt do it, would you pay the £100 fine and take 3 points ?

I think all you fools that would accept this are cowards and idiots. I say if you never done it then dont plead guilty. You cant get a jury to decide a minor motoring offence at Crown. Its one judge and his decision is final. Where do you people get your legal information womans own ?

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Carnabackable says...
6:51pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Rich"Carol wrote:
Are you people saying that if you got a letter stating you had been stationary on yellow boxes and you should send your driving licence to DVLA to get 3 points and you knew you didnt do it, would you pay the £100 fine and take 3 points ?

I think all you fools that would accept this are cowards and idiots. I say if you never done it then dont plead guilty. You cant get a jury to decide a minor motoring offence at Crown. Its one judge and his decision is final. Where do you people get your legal information womans own ?

Stay off the gin, dearie.

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HK9597 says...
7:03pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Carnabackable wrote:

Rich"Carol wrote:
Are you people saying that if you got a letter stating you had been stationary on yellow boxes and you should send your driving licence to DVLA to get 3 points and you knew you didnt do it, would you pay the £100 fine and take 3 points ?

I think all you fools that would accept this are cowards and idiots. I say if you never done it then dont plead guilty. You cant get a jury to decide a minor motoring offence at Crown. Its one judge and his decision is final. Where do you people get your legal information womans own ?
Stay off the gin, dearie.

She hasn't been drinking, she's just annoying.

Thinks she knows it all and acts tough, but when a journalist called her bluff, she cacked herself!

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supershrimper says...
7:56pm Thu 10 Jan 13

You're not special sunshine. If you parked illegally then you have to pay. £35 is not unreasonable and it's your own fault that it has gone up for not paying it.

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stopmoaning1 says...
8:02pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Rich"Carol wrote:
Are you people saying that if you got a letter stating you had been stationary on yellow boxes and you should send your driving licence to DVLA to get 3 points and you knew you didnt do it, would you pay the £100 fine and take 3 points ?

I think all you fools that would accept this are cowards and idiots. I say if you never done it then dont plead guilty. You cant get a jury to decide a minor motoring offence at Crown. Its one judge and his decision is final. Where do you people get your legal information womans own ?

Not the point. If you haven't done it then don't plead guilty or pay the fine, of course you appeal. Your useless solicitor was rubbish if you had to go that far when there was obviously video of you moving as you said, why not produce this much earlier. The thing here, is this woman has accepted she DID stop on the wide yellow line. See the difference?. By the way, why have the Echo made the effort to describe her as a charity volunteer. Would it make a difference if she were a shop assistant, baker, unemployed? Looking for sympathy by any chance???

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stopmoaning1 says...
8:05pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Yes there are 3 kinds of Burglary.

Yes theres different kinds of burglary

(1) If someone forces open a door in a shop and steals a pint of milk and a bag of crisps thats burglary. Not theft its burglary

(2) If someone enters a locked dwelling or building and steals the till thats Burglary

(3) If you are asleep and a person breaks into your home and steals your items thats also burglary.

So there is burglary and 2 and 3 is diabolical

Idiot

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Essex Medja says...
8:09pm Thu 10 Jan 13

" ...Come on people we gotta stop these Nazi like we did in the 1930s."
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sad sooooo sad.

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Devils Advocate says...
8:14pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Rich"Carol:

I think you have made a few mistakes in your story.
Firstly, most men are not mice, just a little able to tell right from wrong.
Secondly: "Big brother wasnt suppossed to be like this as it now like a nazi society."
You should read Orwell's 1984 before speaking about "Big Brother," and then you talk about the Nazi society?
You mean that you think you could have written in the paper about the Nazis the way you wrote about our enforcement officers and still be alive? You never lived the Nazi society, please don't draw comparisons you know little of!

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Essex Medja says...
8:15pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Rich"Carol wrote:
Unless we start to do something about clampers, spycars and wardens collecting revenue we will all be yes sir no sir withing 5 years. Big brother wasnt suppossed to be like this as it now like a nazi society. Givem a uniform and its back tp the 30s. Come on people stop sitting behind your curtains and big big. This country is full of mice not men.

Theres parking and theres naughty parking. If the offence is diobilcle then ticket them, but these gestapo do not have an ounce of common sense what so ever.
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So speaks "Rumpled of the Balley's".

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DogsMessInLeigh says...
9:04pm Thu 10 Jan 13

everyone would have more sympathy for her if she had gone over her car park ticket by 5 minutes or broken down etc ....BUT she used a bus stop to stop and she was not driving a bus, its on film, banged to rights( 7seconds or 2 minutes all the same) and it was only £35, a cheap lesson learned..imo....but ohh no she felt hard done by and probably ignored the initial fine thinking nahh what can they do..take me to court...? maybe a judge would side with her (she thought)....but it don't go to court it gets passed on to debt agencies and grows, now i'll wager IF she had the option to pay the £35 Tommorrow and forget all this she would pay the £35....exactly what should have happened in the first place., an expensive lesson learned and not all in a monetary way..!!

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BIRLIS says...
9:47pm Thu 10 Jan 13

So, she broke the law, got caught, got fined, refused to pay, the bailiffs came in... The only story here is that the system was working, then the clamp got removed.

Just pay up! You seem to have been given the chane to save your car. Use that chance.

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asbo. just the truth says...
10:13pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Rich"Carol wrote:
Are you people saying that if you got a letter stating you had been stationary on yellow boxes and you should send your driving licence to DVLA to get 3 points and you knew you didnt do it, would you pay the £100 fine and take 3 points ?

I think all you fools that would accept this are cowards and idiots. I say if you never done it then dont plead guilty. You cant get a jury to decide a minor motoring offence at Crown. Its one judge and his decision is final. Where do you people get your legal information womans own ?

i got a picture in my head and i'm not going to sleep well tonight - peroxide blond, fake tan, rav4, bejazzled, huskies in boot.

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echoforum says...
11:02pm Thu 10 Jan 13

stubborn woman,pay up and move on!

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Rich"Carol says...
8:19am Fri 11 Jan 13

asbo. just the truth wrote:

Rich"Carol wrote:
Are you people saying that if you got a letter stating you had been stationary on yellow boxes and you should send your driving licence to DVLA to get 3 points and you knew you didnt do it, would you pay the £100 fine and take 3 points ?

I think all you fools that would accept this are cowards and idiots. I say if you never done it then dont plead guilty. You cant get a jury to decide a minor motoring offence at Crown. Its one judge and his decision is final. Where do you people get your legal information womans own ?
i got a picture in my head and i'm not going to sleep well tonight - peroxide blond, fake tan, rav4, bejazzled, huskies in boot.

Peroxide blonde NO, ive got brown hair with bits of grey and at middle 60s no fake tan. No Rav 4 ive still got the 3 year old Vouge and happy with that. Not got any huskies, still got my Bull Mastiffs. Still live in the same house in Ramsden Heath. Still proud to have been brought up in Forest gate. Fully retired and enjoying my life working with many charities including the round Table, St Lukes and many others. Many of you know me well and the ones that dont are the fools that make comments rude and nasty BUT i can laugh at many of your comments as most of you are jelous and you enjoy being rude to a 64 year of successful woman.

I would not pay a fine if I did not commit the crime. If Susan believes she did not commit an offence then good for he standing up for herself.

I know people will be putting rude comments again on this posting so bring it on and make me smile. I love it and enjoy it .

People this is a comments site and that makes it good. My thoughts and beliefs are mine and yours are yours so bring it on,

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HK9597 says...
9:24am Fri 11 Jan 13

Rich"Carol wrote:

asbo. just the truth wrote:

Rich"Carol wrote:
Are you people saying that if you got a letter stating you had been stationary on yellow boxes and you should send your driving licence to DVLA to get 3 points and you knew you didnt do it, would you pay the £100 fine and take 3 points ?

I think all you fools that would accept this are cowards and idiots. I say if you never done it then dont plead guilty. You cant get a jury to decide a minor motoring offence at Crown. Its one judge and his decision is final. Where do you people get your legal information womans own ?
i got a picture in my head and i'm not going to sleep well tonight - peroxide blond, fake tan, rav4, bejazzled, huskies in boot.
Peroxide blonde NO, ive got brown hair with bits of grey and at middle 60s no fake tan. No Rav 4 ive still got the 3 year old Vouge and happy with that. Not got any huskies, still got my Bull Mastiffs. Still live in the same house in Ramsden Heath. Still proud to have been brought up in Forest gate. Fully retired and enjoying my life working with many charities including the round Table, St Lukes and many others. Many of you know me well and the ones that dont are the fools that make comments rude and nasty BUT i can laugh at many of your comments as most of you are jelous and you enjoy being rude to a 64 year of successful woman.

I would not pay a fine if I did not commit the crime. If Susan believes she did not commit an offence then good for he standing up for herself.

I know people will be putting rude comments again on this posting so bring it on and make me smile. I love it and enjoy it .

People this is a comments site and that makes it good. My thoughts and beliefs are mine and yours are yours so bring it on,

Yet again, you claim to be a charitable person, yet make ridiculous Gestapo and Nazi comments? What is wrong with you?

Will the real rich Carol please stand up!

Oh and but the way, she admits to committing the offence but feels it is unfair. It is as simple as that. However harsh it seems, she broke the law.

[quote][p][bold]Rich"Carol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo. just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich"Carol[/bold] wrote: Are you people saying that if you got a letter stating you had been stationary on yellow boxes and you should send your driving licence to DVLA to get 3 points and you knew you didnt do it, would you pay the £100 fine and take 3 points ? I think all you fools that would accept this are cowards and idiots. I say if you never done it then dont plead guilty. You cant get a jury to decide a minor motoring offence at Crown. Its one judge and his decision is final. Where do you people get your legal information womans own ?[/p][/quote]i got a picture in my head and i'm not going to sleep well tonight - peroxide blond, fake tan, rav4, bejazzled, huskies in boot.[/p][/quote]Peroxide blonde NO, ive got brown hair with bits of grey and at middle 60s no fake tan. No Rav 4 ive still got the 3 year old Vouge and happy with that. Not got any huskies, still got my Bull Mastiffs. Still live in the same house in Ramsden Heath. Still proud to have been brought up in Forest gate. Fully retired and enjoying my life working with many charities including the round Table, St Lukes and many others. Many of you know me well and the ones that dont are the fools that make comments rude and nasty BUT i can laugh at many of your comments as most of you are jelous and you enjoy being rude to a 64 year of successful woman. I would not pay a fine if I did not commit the crime. If Susan believes she did not commit an offence then good for he standing up for herself. I know people will be putting rude comments again on this posting so bring it on and make me smile. I love it and enjoy it . People this is a comments site and that makes it good. My thoughts and beliefs are mine and yours are yours so bring it on,[/p][/quote]Yet again, you claim to be a charitable person, yet make ridiculous Gestapo and Nazi comments? What is wrong with you? Will the real rich Carol please stand up! Oh and but the way, she admits to committing the offence but feels it is unfair. It is as simple as that. However harsh it seems, she broke the law. HK9597

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Rouge9 says...
9:24am Fri 11 Jan 13

What I don't get is that this womans' car was clamped,and she sat in it - fair enough, nothing can be done while she is in it. But, she exited the car and the clamp disappeared. That is a little fishy to me. But at least with the above photo we now have the clampers name and phone number, so perhaps the clampers SIA and licence was questionable, and they actually had no court order to impound the vehicle.

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Essex Medja says...
9:43am Fri 11 Jan 13

"....working with many charities including the round Table, St Lukes and many others."
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Perhaps you could take up the case of the Somalian women who you claim are locked up at Bullwood Hall?

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stopmoaning1 says...
11:00am Fri 11 Jan 13

Rich"Carol wrote:

asbo. just the truth wrote:

Rich"Carol wrote:
Are you people saying that if you got a letter stating you had been stationary on yellow boxes and you should send your driving licence to DVLA to get 3 points and you knew you didnt do it, would you pay the £100 fine and take 3 points ?

I think all you fools that would accept this are cowards and idiots. I say if you never done it then dont plead guilty. You cant get a jury to decide a minor motoring offence at Crown. Its one judge and his decision is final. Where do you people get your legal information womans own ?
i got a picture in my head and i'm not going to sleep well tonight - peroxide blond, fake tan, rav4, bejazzled, huskies in boot.
Peroxide blonde NO, ive got brown hair with bits of grey and at middle 60s no fake tan. No Rav 4 ive still got the 3 year old Vouge and happy with that. Not got any huskies, still got my Bull Mastiffs. Still live in the same house in Ramsden Heath. Still proud to have been brought up in Forest gate. Fully retired and enjoying my life working with many charities including the round Table, St Lukes and many others. Many of you know me well and the ones that dont are the fools that make comments rude and nasty BUT i can laugh at many of your comments as most of you are jelous and you enjoy being rude to a 64 year of successful woman.

I would not pay a fine if I did not commit the crime. If Susan believes she did not commit an offence then good for he standing up for herself.

I know people will be putting rude comments again on this posting so bring it on and make me smile. I love it and enjoy it .

People this is a comments site and that makes it good. My thoughts and beliefs are mine and yours are yours so bring it on,

COMPLETELY missing the point. The woman admits she WAS parked on the wide yellow line. She's just upset that she got caught. A bit like taking a pen from work, it's only 'a litle bit theft' but it IS theft., or your headlight not working on your car, 'it's only not working a little bit' But it's NOT working All laws are based on the same principal, either you have done enough to commit the offence or you haven't. Simples! If you get caught, deal with it, don't start bleating about yes I did it but only a little bit, I know let's have my 15 minutes of fame in the local paper, oh and let's say I'm a charity volenteer to get some sympathy as well.

[quote][p][bold]Rich"Carol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo. just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich"Carol[/bold] wrote: Are you people saying that if you got a letter stating you had been stationary on yellow boxes and you should send your driving licence to DVLA to get 3 points and you knew you didnt do it, would you pay the £100 fine and take 3 points ? I think all you fools that would accept this are cowards and idiots. I say if you never done it then dont plead guilty. You cant get a jury to decide a minor motoring offence at Crown. Its one judge and his decision is final. Where do you people get your legal information womans own ?[/p][/quote]i got a picture in my head and i'm not going to sleep well tonight - peroxide blond, fake tan, rav4, bejazzled, huskies in boot.[/p][/quote]Peroxide blonde NO, ive got brown hair with bits of grey and at middle 60s no fake tan. No Rav 4 ive still got the 3 year old Vouge and happy with that. Not got any huskies, still got my Bull Mastiffs. Still live in the same house in Ramsden Heath. Still proud to have been brought up in Forest gate. Fully retired and enjoying my life working with many charities including the round Table, St Lukes and many others. Many of you know me well and the ones that dont are the fools that make comments rude and nasty BUT i can laugh at many of your comments as most of you are jelous and you enjoy being rude to a 64 year of successful woman. I would not pay a fine if I did not commit the crime. If Susan believes she did not commit an offence then good for he standing up for herself. I know people will be putting rude comments again on this posting so bring it on and make me smile. I love it and enjoy it . People this is a comments site and that makes it good. My thoughts and beliefs are mine and yours are yours so bring it on,[/p][/quote]COMPLETELY missing the point. The woman admits she WAS parked on the wide yellow line. She's just upset that she got caught. A bit like taking a pen from work, it's only 'a litle bit theft' but it IS theft., or your headlight not working on your car, 'it's only not working a little bit' But it's NOT working All laws are based on the same principal, either you have done enough to commit the offence or you haven't. Simples! If you get caught, deal with it, don't start bleating about yes I did it but only a little bit, I know let's have my 15 minutes of fame in the local paper, oh and let's say I'm a charity volenteer to get some sympathy as well. stopmoaning1

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Monkeytennis1 says...
11:16am Fri 11 Jan 13

Rich"Carol wrote:

asbo. just the truth wrote:

Rich"Carol wrote:
Are you people saying that if you got a letter stating you had been stationary on yellow boxes and you should send your driving licence to DVLA to get 3 points and you knew you didnt do it, would you pay the £100 fine and take 3 points ?

I think all you fools that would accept this are cowards and idiots. I say if you never done it then dont plead guilty. You cant get a jury to decide a minor motoring offence at Crown. Its one judge and his decision is final. Where do you people get your legal information womans own ?
i got a picture in my head and i'm not going to sleep well tonight - peroxide blond, fake tan, rav4, bejazzled, huskies in boot.
Peroxide blonde NO, ive got brown hair with bits of grey and at middle 60s no fake tan. No Rav 4 ive still got the 3 year old Vouge and happy with that. Not got any huskies, still got my Bull Mastiffs. Still live in the same house in Ramsden Heath. Still proud to have been brought up in Forest gate. Fully retired and enjoying my life working with many charities including the round Table, St Lukes and many others. Many of you know me well and the ones that dont are the fools that make comments rude and nasty BUT i can laugh at many of your comments as most of you are jelous and you enjoy being rude to a 64 year of successful woman.

I would not pay a fine if I did not commit the crime. If Susan believes she did not commit an offence then good for he standing up for herself.

I know people will be putting rude comments again on this posting so bring it on and make me smile. I love it and enjoy it .

People this is a comments site and that makes it good. My thoughts and beliefs are mine and yours are yours so bring it on,

Did you not mention in a previous post some weeks ago that you lived in Glebe Rd Ramsden Bellhouse???

[quote][p][bold]Rich"Carol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo. just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich"Carol[/bold] wrote: Are you people saying that if you got a letter stating you had been stationary on yellow boxes and you should send your driving licence to DVLA to get 3 points and you knew you didnt do it, would you pay the £100 fine and take 3 points ? I think all you fools that would accept this are cowards and idiots. I say if you never done it then dont plead guilty. You cant get a jury to decide a minor motoring offence at Crown. Its one judge and his decision is final. Where do you people get your legal information womans own ?[/p][/quote]i got a picture in my head and i'm not going to sleep well tonight - peroxide blond, fake tan, rav4, bejazzled, huskies in boot.[/p][/quote]Peroxide blonde NO, ive got brown hair with bits of grey and at middle 60s no fake tan. No Rav 4 ive still got the 3 year old Vouge and happy with that. Not got any huskies, still got my Bull Mastiffs. Still live in the same house in Ramsden Heath. Still proud to have been brought up in Forest gate. Fully retired and enjoying my life working with many charities including the round Table, St Lukes and many others. Many of you know me well and the ones that dont are the fools that make comments rude and nasty BUT i can laugh at many of your comments as most of you are jelous and you enjoy being rude to a 64 year of successful woman. I would not pay a fine if I did not commit the crime. If Susan believes she did not commit an offence then good for he standing up for herself. I know people will be putting rude comments again on this posting so bring it on and make me smile. I love it and enjoy it . People this is a comments site and that makes it good. My thoughts and beliefs are mine and yours are yours so bring it on,[/p][/quote]Did you not mention in a previous post some weeks ago that you lived in Glebe Rd Ramsden Bellhouse??? Monkeytennis1

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HK9597 says...
11:52am Fri 11 Jan 13

Monkeytennis1 wrote:

Rich"Carol wrote:

asbo. just the truth wrote:

Rich"Carol wrote:
Are you people saying that if you got a letter stating you had been stationary on yellow boxes and you should send your driving licence to DVLA to get 3 points and you knew you didnt do it, would you pay the £100 fine and take 3 points ?

I think all you fools that would accept this are cowards and idiots. I say if you never done it then dont plead guilty. You cant get a jury to decide a minor motoring offence at Crown. Its one judge and his decision is final. Where do you people get your legal information womans own ?
i got a picture in my head and i'm not going to sleep well tonight - peroxide blond, fake tan, rav4, bejazzled, huskies in boot.
Peroxide blonde NO, ive got brown hair with bits of grey and at middle 60s no fake tan. No Rav 4 ive still got the 3 year old Vouge and happy with that. Not got any huskies, still got my Bull Mastiffs. Still live in the same house in Ramsden Heath. Still proud to have been brought up in Forest gate. Fully retired and enjoying my life working with many charities including the round Table, St Lukes and many others. Many of you know me well and the ones that dont are the fools that make comments rude and nasty BUT i can laugh at many of your comments as most of you are jelous and you enjoy being rude to a 64 year of successful woman.

I would not pay a fine if I did not commit the crime. If Susan believes she did not commit an offence then good for he standing up for herself.

I know people will be putting rude comments again on this posting so bring it on and make me smile. I love it and enjoy it .

People this is a comments site and that makes it good. My thoughts and beliefs are mine and yours are yours so bring it on,
Did you not mention in a previous post some weeks ago that you lived in Glebe Rd Ramsden Bellhouse???

Yes she also manages to tell her life story, normally when it has f - all to do with anything, but she cannot resist bragging at every opportunity..

Nobody cares, and most don't believe a word she says, especially after the journalist called her bluff....

She's not even smart enough to change her tag name.

Jog on!

p.s Her Daughter married a Jewish man don't you know? I bet he'd really enjoy her Gestapo and Nazi comments.

[quote][p][bold]Monkeytennis1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich"Carol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo. just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich"Carol[/bold] wrote: Are you people saying that if you got a letter stating you had been stationary on yellow boxes and you should send your driving licence to DVLA to get 3 points and you knew you didnt do it, would you pay the £100 fine and take 3 points ? I think all you fools that would accept this are cowards and idiots. I say if you never done it then dont plead guilty. You cant get a jury to decide a minor motoring offence at Crown. Its one judge and his decision is final. Where do you people get your legal information womans own ?[/p][/quote]i got a picture in my head and i'm not going to sleep well tonight - peroxide blond, fake tan, rav4, bejazzled, huskies in boot.[/p][/quote]Peroxide blonde NO, ive got brown hair with bits of grey and at middle 60s no fake tan. No Rav 4 ive still got the 3 year old Vouge and happy with that. Not got any huskies, still got my Bull Mastiffs. Still live in the same house in Ramsden Heath. Still proud to have been brought up in Forest gate. Fully retired and enjoying my life working with many charities including the round Table, St Lukes and many others. Many of you know me well and the ones that dont are the fools that make comments rude and nasty BUT i can laugh at many of your comments as most of you are jelous and you enjoy being rude to a 64 year of successful woman. I would not pay a fine if I did not commit the crime. If Susan believes she did not commit an offence then good for he standing up for herself. I know people will be putting rude comments again on this posting so bring it on and make me smile. I love it and enjoy it . People this is a comments site and that makes it good. My thoughts and beliefs are mine and yours are yours so bring it on,[/p][/quote]Did you not mention in a previous post some weeks ago that you lived in Glebe Rd Ramsden Bellhouse???[/p][/quote]Yes she also manages to tell her life story, normally when it has f - all to do with anything, but she cannot resist bragging at every opportunity.. Nobody cares, and most don't believe a word she says, especially after the journalist called her bluff.... She's not even smart enough to change her tag name. Jog on! p.s Her Daughter married a Jewish man don't you know? I bet he'd really enjoy her Gestapo and Nazi comments. HK9597

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Devils Advocate says...
1:00pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Rich"Carol: "Many of you know me well and the ones that dont are the fools that make comments rude and nasty BUT i can laugh at many of your comments as most of you are jelous and you enjoy being rude to a 64 year of successful woman."
Good to see you have a sense of humour, and I guess you mean "A 64 year old successful woman?"

What do you mean by that? that you have managed to be a woman all your life, or that you have had children and that makes you a woman. Or perhaps you just mean you have money in the bank? If so, I look forward to meeting you on judgement day, if money is your only way of judging people. Remember, the money lenders were thrown out of the temple! Oh, and I am rapidly approaching 69 and well, known, I suppose.

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HK9597 says...
2:18pm Fri 11 Jan 13

A Pedant wrote:
When did she get caught out by the journalist? Must have missed that. Couldn't have happened to a more rounded, well-balanced individual...

She said she was a magistrate, and mentioned days when she would be sitting (one of which I think was a Sunday).

She makes some awful comments and, when a journalist turned up on one of the days she was supposed to be sitting, surprise surpise. NO SHOW!

Every time she spouts off, ask her where and when she is next sitting as a magistrate. She goes mysteriously quiet.....

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Rich"Carol says...
3:20pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Essex Medja wrote:
"....working with many charities including the round Table, St Lukes and many others."
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Perhaps you could take up the case of the Somalian women who you claim are locked up at Bullwood Hall?

They have moved all the woman out now so thats something else you never knew. The overflow of illegals and deportation men are in Belmarsh.

Thought you would have known Bullwood was not a womans jail anymore ? You seen to think you know everything but it seems you know Jach Sh&t .. Too many knowalls and another one to join the list.

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Rich"Carol says...
3:27pm Fri 11 Jan 13

HK9597 wrote:

A Pedant wrote:
When did she get caught out by the journalist? Must have missed that. Couldn't have happened to a more rounded, well-balanced individual...
She said she was a magistrate, and mentioned days when she would be sitting (one of which I think was a Sunday).

She makes some awful comments and, when a journalist turned up on one of the days she was supposed to be sitting, surprise surpise. NO SHOW!

Every time she spouts off, ask her where and when she is next sitting as a magistrate. She goes mysteriously quiet.....

Dont have a clue what your on about. Courts are not open on a Sunday unless by approval. My days of sitting on the bench have been over for 14 months.

Best you check your details about Sunday opening unless you meant Waitrose in the high street.

If you increase the Prozac you may stop dreaming and making up stories and I know Prozac increases a jelous streak so you must be full to the Brim.

The only time i go missing is holidays or visiting my daughter in the US otherwise Im here !

OK apoligies from you accepted and no offence by you taken but gotta feeling you will open that sill mouth and tell me the courts are open sundays.. Well they are NOT open. Foolish human being !

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Rich"Carol says...
3:37pm Fri 11 Jan 13

HK9597 wrote:

Monkeytennis1 wrote:

Rich"Carol wrote:

asbo. just the truth wrote:

Rich"Carol wrote:
Are you people saying that if you got a letter stating you had been stationary on yellow boxes and you should send your driving licence to DVLA to get 3 points and you knew you didnt do it, would you pay the £100 fine and take 3 points ?

I think all you fools that would accept this are cowards and idiots. I say if you never done it then dont plead guilty. You cant get a jury to decide a minor motoring offence at Crown. Its one judge and his decision is final. Where do you people get your legal information womans own ?
i got a picture in my head and i'm not going to sleep well tonight - peroxide blond, fake tan, rav4, bejazzled, huskies in boot.
Peroxide blonde NO, ive got brown hair with bits of grey and at middle 60s no fake tan. No Rav 4 ive still got the 3 year old Vouge and happy with that. Not got any huskies, still got my Bull Mastiffs. Still live in the same house in Ramsden Heath. Still proud to have been brought up in Forest gate. Fully retired and enjoying my life working with many charities including the round Table, St Lukes and many others. Many of you know me well and the ones that dont are the fools that make comments rude and nasty BUT i can laugh at many of your comments as most of you are jelous and you enjoy being rude to a 64 year of successful woman.

I would not pay a fine if I did not commit the crime. If Susan believes she did not commit an offence then good for he standing up for herself.

I know people will be putting rude comments again on this posting so bring it on and make me smile. I love it and enjoy it .

People this is a comments site and that makes it good. My thoughts and beliefs are mine and yours are yours so bring it on,
Did you not mention in a previous post some weeks ago that you lived in Glebe Rd Ramsden Bellhouse???
Yes she also manages to tell her life story, normally when it has f - all to do with anything, but she cannot resist bragging at every opportunity..

Nobody cares, and most don't believe a word she says, especially after the journalist called her bluff....

She's not even smart enough to change her tag name.

Jog on!

p.s Her Daughter married a Jewish man don't you know? I bet he'd really enjoy her Gestapo and Nazi comments.

Is that an offence for a C of E lady to marry a jewish man ? I find your comments very racist and that offends me. You are very much out of order in not liking Jewish people, the Germands in 1935 also didnt like Jewish people.

No I wont report you for racist remarks because I am big enough to accept thats your thoughts. But other people may take offence as a lot of people write and read these posts and Westcliffe has a large Jewish congregation and I am sure you will upset a few.

I have never seen a journalist via evening echo except when I raise funds via different means and I have on 2 occassions had a photo taken. Ask Mo my good friend Basildon mayoress if I am a nice lady ?

Just stop your racist comments NOW

[quote][p][bold]HK9597[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monkeytennis1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich"Carol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo. just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich"Carol[/bold] wrote: Are you people saying that if you got a letter stating you had been stationary on yellow boxes and you should send your driving licence to DVLA to get 3 points and you knew you didnt do it, would you pay the £100 fine and take 3 points ? I think all you fools that would accept this are cowards and idiots. I say if you never done it then dont plead guilty. You cant get a jury to decide a minor motoring offence at Crown. Its one judge and his decision is final. Where do you people get your legal information womans own ?[/p][/quote]i got a picture in my head and i'm not going to sleep well tonight - peroxide blond, fake tan, rav4, bejazzled, huskies in boot.[/p][/quote]Peroxide blonde NO, ive got brown hair with bits of grey and at middle 60s no fake tan. No Rav 4 ive still got the 3 year old Vouge and happy with that. Not got any huskies, still got my Bull Mastiffs. Still live in the same house in Ramsden Heath. Still proud to have been brought up in Forest gate. Fully retired and enjoying my life working with many charities including the round Table, St Lukes and many others. Many of you know me well and the ones that dont are the fools that make comments rude and nasty BUT i can laugh at many of your comments as most of you are jelous and you enjoy being rude to a 64 year of successful woman. I would not pay a fine if I did not commit the crime. If Susan believes she did not commit an offence then good for he standing up for herself. I know people will be putting rude comments again on this posting so bring it on and make me smile. I love it and enjoy it . People this is a comments site and that makes it good. My thoughts and beliefs are mine and yours are yours so bring it on,[/p][/quote]Did you not mention in a previous post some weeks ago that you lived in Glebe Rd Ramsden Bellhouse???[/p][/quote]Yes she also manages to tell her life story, normally when it has f - all to do with anything, but she cannot resist bragging at every opportunity.. Nobody cares, and most don't believe a word she says, especially after the journalist called her bluff.... She's not even smart enough to change her tag name. Jog on! p.s Her Daughter married a Jewish man don't you know? I bet he'd really enjoy her Gestapo and Nazi comments.[/p][/quote]Is that an offence for a C of E lady to marry a jewish man ? I find your comments very racist and that offends me. You are very much out of order in not liking Jewish people, the Germands in 1935 also didnt like Jewish people. No I wont report you for racist remarks because I am big enough to accept thats your thoughts. But other people may take offence as a lot of people write and read these posts and Westcliffe has a large Jewish congregation and I am sure you will upset a few. I have never seen a journalist via evening echo except when I raise funds via different means and I have on 2 occassions had a photo taken. Ask Mo my good friend Basildon mayoress if I am a nice lady ? Just stop your racist comments NOW Rich"Carol

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Monkeytennis1 says...
3:38pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Rich"Carol wrote:

HK9597 wrote:

A Pedant wrote:
When did she get caught out by the journalist? Must have missed that. Couldn't have happened to a more rounded, well-balanced individual...
She said she was a magistrate, and mentioned days when she would be sitting (one of which I think was a Sunday).

She makes some awful comments and, when a journalist turned up on one of the days she was supposed to be sitting, surprise surpise. NO SHOW!

Every time she spouts off, ask her where and when she is next sitting as a magistrate. She goes mysteriously quiet.....
Dont have a clue what your on about. Courts are not open on a Sunday unless by approval. My days of sitting on the bench have been over for 14 months.

Best you check your details about Sunday opening unless you meant Waitrose in the high street.

If you increase the Prozac you may stop dreaming and making up stories and I know Prozac increases a jelous streak so you must be full to the Brim.

The only time i go missing is holidays or visiting my daughter in the US otherwise Im here !

OK apoligies from you accepted and no offence by you taken but gotta feeling you will open that sill mouth and tell me the courts are open sundays.. Well they are NOT open. Foolish human being !

Ha Ha brilliant

Please have the decency to know when you have been rumbled.

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Rich"Carol says...
3:59pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Just one more comment before I have my relaxing hour.

Going back to the parking offence. Good luck to her for standing by her guns. If she belives she had commited no crime the stand up as your doing.

If that was me, I would have paid the original fine and be done with it.

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stopmoaning1 says...
4:12pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Rich"Carol wrote:
Just one more comment before I have my relaxing hour.

Going back to the parking offence. Good luck to her for standing by her guns. If she belives she had commited no crime the stand up as your doing.

If that was me, I would have paid the original fine and be done with it.

Am I missing something here, are you now saying you believe she had committed the offence and should pay. Is that your magistrates stand that if she were before you you would find her guily. Also makes me think of your previous comment about having to go all the way to crown ourt with your yellow box ticket, if you were a magistrate, didn't you understand that if the video showing you moving and not stopped in the yellow box was available it should have been avaiable right at the start of the process
I've only just started contibuting to the forum so don't know the history the others are talking about, but you do seem to contradict yourself, and why do I want to know how old you are, what car you drive, where your daughter lives or what charities you are involved with. I thought the idea of the forum was to comment on the story or do I need a different forum for that

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Rich"Carol says...
4:41pm Fri 11 Jan 13

stopmoaning1 wrote:

Rich"Carol wrote:
Just one more comment before I have my relaxing hour.

Going back to the parking offence. Good luck to her for standing by her guns. If she belives she had commited no crime the stand up as your doing.

If that was me, I would have paid the original fine and be done with it.
Am I missing something here, are you now saying you believe she had committed the offence and should pay. Is that your magistrates stand that if she were before you you would find her guily. Also makes me think of your previous comment about having to go all the way to crown ourt with your yellow box ticket, if you were a magistrate, didn't you understand that if the video showing you moving and not stopped in the yellow box was available it should have been avaiable right at the start of the process
I've only just started contibuting to the forum so don't know the history the others are talking about, but you do seem to contradict yourself, and why do I want to know how old you are, what car you drive, where your daughter lives or what charities you are involved with. I thought the idea of the forum was to comment on the story or do I need a different forum for that

I will explain again cos maybe i used joined up words and not capital letters.

I got through the post a £100 fine and a letter stating I had to send my license in to get 3 penalty points.

Are you with me so far .. Good !

I sent all the rubbish back to where it came from with a letter saying incorrect I did not stop and was never stationary. OK ! are you still with me ?

I attended Newham Magistrates court and nice clear photos we given to me and to the magistrate. I said loudly ..Yes Sir that is my range rover, yes Sir that was me driving and NO SIR i never was staionary for even half a second. The idiot magistrate said extra £50 fine and £75 costs. Are you still with me ??

We appealed to crown court and asked for the moving cctv and moving traffic camera evidance for the crown court.

Try and keep up dear !

In Snaresbrook crown the moving photos were shown on a tv type of screen twice and Judge looked at the enforcement officer and asked loudly to the traffic enforcement office explain what you saw on screen and the enforcement officer stated to the Judge who sat alone on the bench, no jury, after looking twice at the moving film that at NO time this defendants vouge was stationary, he said but it was only just moving but NOT at anytime staionary as the still photos showed at magistrates court.

The Judge found in favour of myself and apologised for the incorrect traffic prosecution, I got £90 awarded for unlawful prosecution. As the Judge stated, you have to be stationary to be convicted and as the film showed I was just barely moving and never stopped at anytime.

Hope now Ive explained why how and what. Im sure you can grasp this ! I was NOT GUILTY ..

[quote][p][bold]stopmoaning1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich"Carol[/bold] wrote: Just one more comment before I have my relaxing hour. Going back to the parking offence. Good luck to her for standing by her guns. If she belives she had commited no crime the stand up as your doing. If that was me, I would have paid the original fine and be done with it.[/p][/quote]Am I missing something here, are you now saying you believe she had committed the offence and should pay. Is that your magistrates stand that if she were before you you would find her guily. Also makes me think of your previous comment about having to go all the way to crown ourt with your yellow box ticket, if you were a magistrate, didn't you understand that if the video showing you moving and not stopped in the yellow box was available it should have been avaiable right at the start of the process I've only just started contibuting to the forum so don't know the history the others are talking about, but you do seem to contradict yourself, and why do I want to know how old you are, what car you drive, where your daughter lives or what charities you are involved with. I thought the idea of the forum was to comment on the story or do I need a different forum for that[/p][/quote]I will explain again cos maybe i used joined up words and not capital letters. I got through the post a £100 fine and a letter stating I had to send my license in to get 3 penalty points. Are you with me so far .. Good ! I sent all the rubbish back to where it came from with a letter saying incorrect I did not stop and was never stationary. OK ! are you still with me ? I attended Newham Magistrates court and nice clear photos we given to me and to the magistrate. I said loudly ..Yes Sir that is my range rover, yes Sir that was me driving and NO SIR i never was staionary for even half a second. The idiot magistrate said extra £50 fine and £75 costs. Are you still with me ?? We appealed to crown court and asked for the moving cctv and moving traffic camera evidance for the crown court. Try and keep up dear ! In Snaresbrook crown the moving photos were shown on a tv type of screen twice and Judge looked at the enforcement officer and asked loudly to the traffic enforcement office explain what you saw on screen and the enforcement officer stated to the Judge who sat alone on the bench, no jury, after looking twice at the moving film that at NO time this defendants vouge was stationary, he said but it was only just moving but NOT at anytime staionary as the still photos showed at magistrates court. The Judge found in favour of myself and apologised for the incorrect traffic prosecution, I got £90 awarded for unlawful prosecution. As the Judge stated, you have to be stationary to be convicted and as the film showed I was just barely moving and never stopped at anytime. Hope now Ive explained why how and what. Im sure you can grasp this ! I was NOT GUILTY .. Rich"Carol

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Monkeytennis1 says...
4:44pm Fri 11 Jan 13

stopmoaning1 wrote:

Rich"Carol wrote:
Just one more comment before I have my relaxing hour.

Going back to the parking offence. Good luck to her for standing by her guns. If she belives she had commited no crime the stand up as your doing.

If that was me, I would have paid the original fine and be done with it.
Am I missing something here, are you now saying you believe she had committed the offence and should pay. Is that your magistrates stand that if she were before you you would find her guily. Also makes me think of your previous comment about having to go all the way to crown ourt with your yellow box ticket, if you were a magistrate, didn't you understand that if the video showing you moving and not stopped in the yellow box was available it should have been avaiable right at the start of the process
I've only just started contibuting to the forum so don't know the history the others are talking about, but you do seem to contradict yourself, and why do I want to know how old you are, what car you drive, where your daughter lives or what charities you are involved with. I thought the idea of the forum was to comment on the story or do I need a different forum for that

No, this indeed a forum concerning a Lady who is refusing to pay her parking fine.
However it appears to have been hijacked by Rich Carol and her name dropping look at me ramblings..
It appears however she is not all she claims and quite honestly I think that’s a good thing as on paper she
Sounds as mad a box of frogs (purchased from Waitrose!)

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Rich"Carol says...
4:56pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Not again, not another abusive rude woman. Wht dont you pick on someone else cos your so boring.

Now you are picking on waitrose. Am I now shopping in the incorrect shop ? What is wrong with waitrose ? I love their food. Ok I admit I do sometimes go to sainsburys so I hope thats ok with you.

Lets hope now you stop making comments, but i have my doubts .

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Monkeytennis1 says...
4:58pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Get the lady a spade !!!

No more comments I promise

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stopmoaning1 says...
5:00pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Rich"Carol wrote:
Not again, not another abusive rude woman. Wht dont you pick on someone else cos your so boring.

Now you are picking on waitrose. Am I now shopping in the incorrect shop ? What is wrong with waitrose ? I love their food. Ok I admit I do sometimes go to sainsburys so I hope thats ok with you.

Lets hope now you stop making comments, but i have my doubts .

Why do you respond to these comments rather than sticking to the point, i'm not interested in where you shop, the topic is the woman refusing to pay a fine

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HK9597 says...
6:08pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Rich"Carol wrote:

HK9597 wrote:

Monkeytennis1 wrote:

Rich"Carol wrote:

asbo. just the truth wrote:

Rich"Carol wrote:
Are you people saying that if you got a letter stating you had been stationary on yellow boxes and you should send your driving licence to DVLA to get 3 points and you knew you didnt do it, would you pay the £100 fine and take 3 points ?

I think all you fools that would accept this are cowards and idiots. I say if you never done it then dont plead guilty. You cant get a jury to decide a minor motoring offence at Crown. Its one judge and his decision is final. Where do you people get your legal information womans own ?
i got a picture in my head and i'm not going to sleep well tonight - peroxide blond, fake tan, rav4, bejazzled, huskies in boot.
Peroxide blonde NO, ive got brown hair with bits of grey and at middle 60s no fake tan. No Rav 4 ive still got the 3 year old Vouge and happy with that. Not got any huskies, still got my Bull Mastiffs. Still live in the same house in Ramsden Heath. Still proud to have been brought up in Forest gate. Fully retired and enjoying my life working with many charities including the round Table, St Lukes and many others. Many of you know me well and the ones that dont are the fools that make comments rude and nasty BUT i can laugh at many of your comments as most of you are jelous and you enjoy being rude to a 64 year of successful woman.

I would not pay a fine if I did not commit the crime. If Susan believes she did not commit an offence then good for he standing up for herself.

I know people will be putting rude comments again on this posting so bring it on and make me smile. I love it and enjoy it .

People this is a comments site and that makes it good. My thoughts and beliefs are mine and yours are yours so bring it on,
Did you not mention in a previous post some weeks ago that you lived in Glebe Rd Ramsden Bellhouse???
Yes she also manages to tell her life story, normally when it has f - all to do with anything, but she cannot resist bragging at every opportunity..

Nobody cares, and most don't believe a word she says, especially after the journalist called her bluff....

She's not even smart enough to change her tag name.

Jog on!

p.s Her Daughter married a Jewish man don't you know? I bet he'd really enjoy her Gestapo and Nazi comments.
Is that an offence for a C of E lady to marry a jewish man ? I find your comments very racist and that offends me. You are very much out of order in not liking Jewish people, the Germands in 1935 also didnt like Jewish people.

No I wont report you for racist remarks because I am big enough to accept thats your thoughts. But other people may take offence as a lot of people write and read these posts and Westcliffe has a large Jewish congregation and I am sure you will upset a few.

I have never seen a journalist via evening echo except when I raise funds via different means and I have on 2 occassions had a photo taken. Ask Mo my good friend Basildon mayoress if I am a nice lady ?

Just stop your racist comments NOW

Rich carol, you know perfectly well that you are the one who mentioned the Gestapo and Nazis. Can you not remember what you wrote only yesterday at 4.44pm (in case you need help just scoll up)!

Seriously disrespectful to those who suffered at their hands.

Go and get some help!

[quote][p][bold]Rich"Carol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HK9597[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monkeytennis1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich"Carol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo. just the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich"Carol[/bold] wrote: Are you people saying that if you got a letter stating you had been stationary on yellow boxes and you should send your driving licence to DVLA to get 3 points and you knew you didnt do it, would you pay the £100 fine and take 3 points ? I think all you fools that would accept this are cowards and idiots. I say if you never done it then dont plead guilty. You cant get a jury to decide a minor motoring offence at Crown. Its one judge and his decision is final. Where do you people get your legal information womans own ?[/p][/quote]i got a picture in my head and i'm not going to sleep well tonight - peroxide blond, fake tan, rav4, bejazzled, huskies in boot.[/p][/quote]Peroxide blonde NO, ive got brown hair with bits of grey and at middle 60s no fake tan. No Rav 4 ive still got the 3 year old Vouge and happy with that. Not got any huskies, still got my Bull Mastiffs. Still live in the same house in Ramsden Heath. Still proud to have been brought up in Forest gate. Fully retired and enjoying my life working with many charities including the round Table, St Lukes and many others. Many of you know me well and the ones that dont are the fools that make comments rude and nasty BUT i can laugh at many of your comments as most of you are jelous and you enjoy being rude to a 64 year of successful woman. I would not pay a fine if I did not commit the crime. If Susan believes she did not commit an offence then good for he standing up for herself. I know people will be putting rude comments again on this posting so bring it on and make me smile. I love it and enjoy it . People this is a comments site and that makes it good. My thoughts and beliefs are mine and yours are yours so bring it on,[/p][/quote]Did you not mention in a previous post some weeks ago that you lived in Glebe Rd Ramsden Bellhouse???[/p][/quote]Yes she also manages to tell her life story, normally when it has f - all to do with anything, but she cannot resist bragging at every opportunity.. Nobody cares, and most don't believe a word she says, especially after the journalist called her bluff.... She's not even smart enough to change her tag name. Jog on! p.s Her Daughter married a Jewish man don't you know? I bet he'd really enjoy her Gestapo and Nazi comments.[/p][/quote]Is that an offence for a C of E lady to marry a jewish man ? I find your comments very racist and that offends me. You are very much out of order in not liking Jewish people, the Germands in 1935 also didnt like Jewish people. No I wont report you for racist remarks because I am big enough to accept thats your thoughts. But other people may take offence as a lot of people write and read these posts and Westcliffe has a large Jewish congregation and I am sure you will upset a few. I have never seen a journalist via evening echo except when I raise funds via different means and I have on 2 occassions had a photo taken. Ask Mo my good friend Basildon mayoress if I am a nice lady ? Just stop your racist comments NOW[/p][/quote]Rich carol, you know perfectly well that you are the one who mentioned the Gestapo and Nazis. Can you not remember what you wrote only yesterday at 4.44pm (in case you need help just scoll up)! Seriously disrespectful to those who suffered at their hands. Go and get some help! HK9597

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Rich"Carol says...
6:44pm Fri 11 Jan 13

I also think its wrong how some people support the Nazi's but people have their own thoughts and we all must accept peoples thoughts as long as they are not promiting racism. Ive seen nothing on this site to show me racism cos i would be the first to speak up.

You gotta accept that not all people think like others. Nazi's and the Gestapo were bullys in uniform and i can understand why people think these road enforcement officers and spy car drivers are i suppose is an extreme way of describing them.

We might think its extreme but they dont and in this life we cant get rude and abusive to people for their veiws.

I hate the Nazi's as much as the next person so if people think these spycar drivers remind them of Nazi's bullys thats their idea on the subject.

Me and my daughter both wear the Star of David as respect for my son in law and my daughter marrying a different religion even though im C of E.

I suppose now I will be told to remove my star by many people on this site and get abuse, but I wont remove it and just laugh to myself.

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stopmoaning1 says...
6:53pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Rich"Carol wrote:
I also think its wrong how some people support the Nazi's but people have their own thoughts and we all must accept peoples thoughts as long as they are not promiting racism. Ive seen nothing on this site to show me racism cos i would be the first to speak up.

You gotta accept that not all people think like others. Nazi's and the Gestapo were bullys in uniform and i can understand why people think these road enforcement officers and spy car drivers are i suppose is an extreme way of describing them.

We might think its extreme but they dont and in this life we cant get rude and abusive to people for their veiws.

I hate the Nazi's as much as the next person so if people think these spycar drivers remind them of Nazi's bullys thats their idea on the subject.

Me and my daughter both wear the Star of David as respect for my son in law and my daughter marrying a different religion even though im C of E.

I suppose now I will be told to remove my star by many people on this site and get abuse, but I wont remove it and just laugh to myself.

FOR GOODNES SAKE, PLEASE STOP BITING AND SNIPING AT EVERY COMMENT, GET BACK TO THE POINT, REMEMBER, THE WOMAN REFUSING TO PAY HER FINE,

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stopmoaning1 says...
6:56pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Rich"Carol wrote:
I also think its wrong how some people support the Nazi's but people have their own thoughts and we all must accept peoples thoughts as long as they are not promiting racism. Ive seen nothing on this site to show me racism cos i would be the first to speak up.

You gotta accept that not all people think like others. Nazi's and the Gestapo were bullys in uniform and i can understand why people think these road enforcement officers and spy car drivers are i suppose is an extreme way of describing them.

We might think its extreme but they dont and in this life we cant get rude and abusive to people for their veiws.

I hate the Nazi's as much as the next person so if people think these spycar drivers remind them of Nazi's bullys thats their idea on the subject.

Me and my daughter both wear the Star of David as respect for my son in law and my daughter marrying a different religion even though im C of E.

I suppose now I will be told to remove my star by many people on this site and get abuse, but I wont remove it and just laugh to myself.

FOR GOODNES SAKE, PLEASE STOP BITING AND SNIPING AT EVERY COMMENT, GET BACK TO THE POINT, REMEMBER, THE WOMAN REFUSING TO PAY HER FINE,

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Rich"Carol says...
7:05pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Yes the woman should have paid the fine, she was wrong but she believed she was right. Thats her choice to feel she was right so why do 70% of people give her abuse.

Everytime I say my bit I get mongrels telling me Im wrong. Its all a matter of opinions. Surley if someone dont agree then thats their thoughts and we should accept another persons opinion. No one is right or wrong cos its opinions not gospel.

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maxell says...
7:08pm Fri 11 Jan 13

big brother NWO once again, police state , infrindgement of your freedom, by legaly taking our money.

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HK9597 says...
7:15pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Rich"Carol wrote:

HK9597 wrote:

A Pedant wrote:
When did she get caught out by the journalist? Must have missed that. Couldn't have happened to a more rounded, well-balanced individual...
She said she was a magistrate, and mentioned days when she would be sitting (one of which I think was a Sunday).

She makes some awful comments and, when a journalist turned up on one of the days she was supposed to be sitting, surprise surpise. NO SHOW!

Every time she spouts off, ask her where and when she is next sitting as a magistrate. She goes mysteriously quiet.....
Dont have a clue what your on about. Courts are not open on a Sunday unless by approval. My days of sitting on the bench have been over for 14 months.

Best you check your details about Sunday opening unless you meant Waitrose in the high street.

If you increase the Prozac you may stop dreaming and making up stories and I know Prozac increases a jelous streak so you must be full to the Brim.

The only time i go missing is holidays or visiting my daughter in the US otherwise Im here !

OK apoligies from you accepted and no offence by you taken but gotta feeling you will open that sill mouth and tell me the courts are open sundays.. Well they are NOT open. Foolish human being !

OK Carol, you have obviously forgotten what you have previously written, and for anyone else, cut and paste this:

http://www.echo-news
.co.uk/news/9840346.
Assaulting_our_warde
ns_won___t_get_rid_o
f_spy_cars____but_it
_will_get_you_prosec
uted/

Lots of of Nazis, Gestapo and even the KKK comments from Carol!

Look at these posts:

12.38pm 28th July

29th July 7.40pm

30th July 9.08am

31st July 5.51pm (Carol this is where you claimed to be in court on the 5th of August – which was a SUNDAY)

Look at comments from the end of July onwards, this is when PJR-121 called Carols bluff and attended Basildon magistrates court on Monday 6th August!

Seriously good reading and shows carol for what she is!

By the way, August 2012 was 5 months ago, so how is it that you haven't sat on the bench for 14 months? either way, you are a LIAR!!!!!

[quote][p][bold]Rich"Carol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HK9597[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Pedant[/bold] wrote: When did she get caught out by the journalist? Must have missed that. Couldn't have happened to a more rounded, well-balanced individual...[/p][/quote]She said she was a magistrate, and mentioned days when she would be sitting (one of which I think was a Sunday). She makes some awful comments and, when a journalist turned up on one of the days she was supposed to be sitting, surprise surpise. NO SHOW! Every time she spouts off, ask her where and when she is next sitting as a magistrate. She goes mysteriously quiet.....[/p][/quote]Dont have a clue what your on about. Courts are not open on a Sunday unless by approval. My days of sitting on the bench have been over for 14 months. Best you check your details about Sunday opening unless you meant Waitrose in the high street. If you increase the Prozac you may stop dreaming and making up stories and I know Prozac increases a jelous streak so you must be full to the Brim. The only time i go missing is holidays or visiting my daughter in the US otherwise Im here ! OK apoligies from you accepted and no offence by you taken but gotta feeling you will open that sill mouth and tell me the courts are open sundays.. Well they are NOT open. Foolish human being ![/p][/quote]OK Carol, you have obviously forgotten what you have previously written, and for anyone else, cut and paste this: http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/9840346. Assaulting_our_warde ns_won___t_get_rid_o f_spy_cars____but_it _will_get_you_prosec uted/ Lots of of Nazis, Gestapo and even the KKK comments from Carol! Look at these posts: 12.38pm 28th July 29th July 7.40pm 30th July 9.08am 31st July 5.51pm (Carol this is where you claimed to be in court on the 5th of August – which was a SUNDAY) Look at comments from the end of July onwards, this is when PJR-121 called Carols bluff and attended Basildon magistrates court on Monday 6th August! Seriously good reading and shows carol for what she is! By the way, August 2012 was 5 months ago, so how is it that you haven't sat on the bench for 14 months? either way, you are a LIAR!!!!! HK9597

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InTheKnowOk says...
7:17pm Fri 11 Jan 13

If she parked illegally then she should have coughed up from the start ..

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stopmoaning1 says...
7:24pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Rich"Carol wrote:
Yes the woman should have paid the fine, she was wrong but she believed she was right. Thats her choice to feel she was right so why do 70% of people give her abuse.

Everytime I say my bit I get mongrels telling me Im wrong. Its all a matter of opinions. Surley if someone dont agree then thats their thoughts and we should accept another persons opinion. No one is right or wrong cos its opinions not gospel.

Glad you're back on point. The answer to your question would seem to be that 70% of the people are law abiding and believe she should have paid in the first place

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EssexMan007 says...
7:24pm Fri 11 Jan 13

You broke the law, got caught ....so pay up ........simples

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Lastlaugh... says...
10:18pm Fri 11 Jan 13

emcee wrote:
OK, the law is the law but 8 seconds? Clearly a case of overzelous jobsworths.
Involvement of baliffs should only ever be done if it is to recover fines imposed by the court. This lady has not had her day in court because these parking cases are often mass cleared through a clearing court without the knowledge of the vehicle owners. This practice should stop.

"law" What law are you referring to? Can you say?

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Lastlaugh... says...
10:44pm Fri 11 Jan 13

EssexMan007 wrote:
You broke the law, got caught ....so pay up ........simples

What "law" simples question, can you answer?

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HK9597 says...
10:18am Sat 12 Jan 13

Not sure why the link isn't working on my post above.

Just search 'assaulting our wardens echo' and you will see the story and comments.

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Jock37ng says...
12:50pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Rich Carol should lay off the Gin.

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InTheKnowOk says...
7:36pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Ashamedofessex wrote:

r6keith wrote:
I am now begining to understand why we had the story the other day about the £167 that Mrs Hatton owed for a parking fine. The original fine was just £35 you should have accepted that you were wrong and paid the laws are quite clear on these matters. If you had paid you would now not have bailiffs clamping your car after a much larger amount as these amounts seem to grow very quickly. I suspect that Mrs Hatton knew this larger amount existed and was trying to get support on board via the paper to avoid payment. Sorry Mrs Hatton you dug the hole now get out of it.
what a sad bunch of bigoted losers you all are, Essex through and through...a complete bunch of uneducated morons

If you're so ashamed of Essex then go sling your hook, you won't be missed with all your various usernames spouting off the same cr@p ..

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EssexPerson says...
7:17am Sun 13 Jan 13

No way did she stop for 8 seconds (last week it was 7 secs!). Has this really been going on since December 2011?
Realistically there is no way she stopped her car (illegally), dropped off the 84 yo father and drive off in that time.
Just grow up women, stop wasting tax payers money with stupid appeals and pay the fine.
They have even reduced it back to £70 and she is being a stubborn fool and not paying that either.
You broke the law, pay the fine and move on dear!

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DogsMessInLeigh says...
1:18pm Sun 13 Jan 13

has it been reduced to £70...? if it has then she will be foolish not to just pay it and get on with her life, her mistake she should put it behind her and next time keep a look out for the Camera Car with the 10 foot pole coming out of the roof...!!!
would be great if these cars where infact Bright Orange/Yellow etc....that way they would stand out more instead of the blending in White and black, after all they are a deterrent and the brighter colours will deter more people from parking wrong as they will spot the camera car easier....but will they change colour thus reducing the income..? will they ****.

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andy:) says...
3:01pm Sun 13 Jan 13

I see from other reports that she has been clamped again, despite the council admitting they were going to investigate, on the second occasion the police were called. The worrying thing is that these 'bailiffs'/'clampers
's are clearly following her around !

The BBC did a great program on councils and their abuse of parking/driving fines and a good proportion of the programe was all about Southend's spy car.

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/iplayer/episode/b01
pvbyr/Parking_Mad/

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stopmoaning1 says...
5:02pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Does anybody know if and why it has been changed back to £70. If that's the case surely the message here is to jump on the Echo bandwagon and say I only broke the law a little bit, and I am a charity volunteer, sob sob sob, and hey presto, all charges removed

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halojump says...
5:11pm Sun 13 Jan 13

This is all the fault of the lady in question.
You get a ticket, you either pay it or send in your evidence and other information to southend council.
They review it and say yes or no.
If its a no you get details on how to appeal if this is unsuccesful then you pay and make it clear you do not admit guilt but are paying as you have been found guilty and fined. Then you appeal to the tribunal.
Why let it get to bailiffs they dont have an appeals procudure and you cant reason with them as they are acting under the law.
Its strange the lady sat with her car for four hours and then went to the cafe rather than the charity shop she works in to use the loo only to find the clamp disapeared although local taxi drivers have a theory about this.
The bailiffs are using ANPR tech to find cars and i would believe will in the end do a snatch and grab job with a full lift truck that can get a car over walls or in blocked spaces. She will lend up loosing the car completely if she isnt careful and still owing the bailiffs some fees. Her day in court migh come but it wont be about the parking fine but to enable a ccj against her so bailiffs can recover their cost because the car wont be enough soon to cover it. (cars sold by bailiffs generally only make 40% of their value)

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GentleGiant says...
5:26pm Sun 13 Jan 13

She committed an offence and should pay.

I hope the council take her to court - where she will lose and look very silly.

Pay the now reduced amount and carry on.

Stopping on a bus stop is a big no-no - everyone knows that and if she didn't, should she be driving?

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DogsMessInLeigh says...
10:03pm Sun 13 Jan 13

maybe they should let her orf as she does a lot of work for Chariiiiity...now heres Bachman Turner Overdrive...with you ain't seen nothing yet.....lets rock.

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Beth the original one says...
10:24am Mon 14 Jan 13

the thing that amazes me is her statement that she was only there for 8 seconds, it takes my 16yr old daughter longer than that to get out of a car, let alone an 84yr old infirm man. Even Blue Badge holders are not permitted to stop/park in a BUS stop. She claims the council are being selfish. "pot kettle and black" spring to mind. She stopped in a BUS stop and being as she is not a bus she had no business being there. If a bus had come along and couldnt get in, she would have forced the passengers on that bus to get off in the road, not funny when you have kids. All she had to do was stop a few metres further down the road. Pay up and stop whinging. Selfish Person that you are.

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DogsMessInLeigh says...
10:52am Mon 14 Jan 13

So a Confirmed Report in todays Echo says the council has reduced the amount to £70....a life line i would say, and she is still not paying up and wants to go to court..how can she think she is right when *98% of people think she is wrong.

*98% is a guestimate.

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r6keith says...
11:24am Mon 14 Jan 13

InTheKnowOk wrote:

Ashamedofessex wrote:
r6keith wrote: I am now begining to understand why we had the story the other day about the £167 that Mrs Hatton owed for a parking fine. The original fine was just £35 you should have accepted that you were wrong and paid the laws are quite clear on these matters. If you had paid you would now not have bailiffs clamping your car after a much larger amount as these amounts seem to grow very quickly. I suspect that Mrs Hatton knew this larger amount existed and was trying to get support on board via the paper to avoid payment. Sorry Mrs Hatton you dug the hole now get out of it.
what a sad bunch of bigoted losers you all are, Essex through and through...a complete bunch of uneducated morons
If you're so ashamed of Essex then go sling your hook, you won't be missed with all your various usernames spouting off the same cr@p ..

Ashamed of Essex.We are all intitled to opionions this is what forums are for.But your generalisation about the people of Essex does not even warrant a reply !

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Maverick06 says...
4:03pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Rich"Carol wrote:
Unless we start to do something about clampers, spycars and wardens collecting revenue we will all be yes sir no sir withing 5 years. Big brother wasnt suppossed to be like this as it now like a nazi society. Givem a uniform and its back tp the 30s. Come on people stop sitting behind your curtains and big big. This country is full of mice not men. Theres parking and theres naughty parking. If the offence is diobilcle then ticket them, but these gestapo do not have an ounce of common sense what so ever. Ive had around 9 tickets and only appealed on 2 and won both appeals. If I have parked wrongly then yes ticket the vehicle, dropping someone off or picking someone up in a matter of under 10 seconds should not be a ticket. I got a £100 fine for stopping on the yellow boxes on a turn right junction. But I never stopped and the camera dont lie. I pleaded in Snaresbrook crown Court NOT GUILTY and was told if Im found guilty on the camera evidance I may have had a £250 fine plus prosecuting costs. I was so sure I never stopped and my solicitor asked for the evidence of the moving camera of 43 seconds. I got not guilty as I was moving and was not stationary. Come on people we gotta stop these Nazi like we did in the 1930s

Wasn't it bad enough that you got caught out last time saying you were a Magistrate on this site, but you fail again showing your ignorance.

Parking matters are civil matter and would never go to Crown Court, so your so called 'not guilty' plea it the same rubbish you continue to spout off on this site.

Nobody is a Nazi and nobody is the Gestapo, so try and grow up just a little bit.

People might not like getting a parking ticket, but however deperate they are they are never going to follow your 'call to arms' against the system as you spout of rubbish every time.

You are like Mr Ben (Oldskool Childens program), you are somebody new every day, but nobody ever takes any notice of you!

[quote][p][bold]Rich"Carol[/bold] wrote: Unless we start to do something about clampers, spycars and wardens collecting revenue we will all be yes sir no sir withing 5 years. Big brother wasnt suppossed to be like this as it now like a nazi society. Givem a uniform and its back tp the 30s. Come on people stop sitting behind your curtains and big big. This country is full of mice not men. Theres parking and theres naughty parking. If the offence is diobilcle then ticket them, but these gestapo do not have an ounce of common sense what so ever. Ive had around 9 tickets and only appealed on 2 and won both appeals. If I have parked wrongly then yes ticket the vehicle, dropping someone off or picking someone up in a matter of under 10 seconds should not be a ticket. I got a £100 fine for stopping on the yellow boxes on a turn right junction. But I never stopped and the camera dont lie. I pleaded in Snaresbrook crown Court NOT GUILTY and was told if Im found guilty on the camera evidance I may have had a £250 fine plus prosecuting costs. I was so sure I never stopped and my solicitor asked for the evidence of the moving camera of 43 seconds. I got not guilty as I was moving and was not stationary. Come on people we gotta stop these Nazi like we did in the 1930s[/p][/quote]Wasn't it bad enough that you got caught out last time saying you were a Magistrate on this site, but you fail again showing your ignorance. Parking matters are civil matter and would never go to Crown Court, so your so called 'not guilty' plea it the same rubbish you continue to spout off on this site. Nobody is a Nazi and nobody is the Gestapo, so try and grow up just a little bit. People might not like getting a parking ticket, but however deperate they are they are never going to follow your 'call to arms' against the system as you spout of rubbish every time. You are like Mr Ben (Oldskool Childens program), you are somebody new every day, but nobody ever takes any notice of you! Maverick06

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Maverick06 says...
4:14pm Mon 14 Jan 13

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
everyone would have more sympathy for her if she had gone over her car park ticket by 5 minutes or broken down etc ....BUT she used a bus stop to stop and she was not driving a bus, its on film, banged to rights( 7seconds or 2 minutes all the same) and it was only £35, a cheap lesson learned..imo....but ohh no she felt hard done by and probably ignored the initial fine thinking nahh what can they do..take me to court...? maybe a judge would side with her (she thought)....but it don't go to court it gets passed on to debt agencies and grows, now i'll wager IF she had the option to pay the £35 Tommorrow and forget all this she would pay the £35....exactly what should have happened in the first place., an expensive lesson learned and not all in a monetary way..!!

Looking at todays paper maybe you are wrong.

OK I appreciate it is £70 the offer and not £35, but she wants her day in court, which is never going to happen.

Perhaps the lady should read all these quotes and then understand that public opinion isn't with her.

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Maverick06 says...
4:22pm Mon 14 Jan 13

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
everyone would have more sympathy for her if she had gone over her car park ticket by 5 minutes or broken down etc ....BUT she used a bus stop to stop and she was not driving a bus, its on film, banged to rights( 7seconds or 2 minutes all the same) and it was only £35, a cheap lesson learned..imo....but ohh no she felt hard done by and probably ignored the initial fine thinking nahh what can they do..take me to court...? maybe a judge would side with her (she thought)....but it don't go to court it gets passed on to debt agencies and grows, now i'll wager IF she had the option to pay the £35 Tommorrow and forget all this she would pay the £35....exactly what should have happened in the first place., an expensive lesson learned and not all in a monetary way..!!

Looking at todays paper maybe you are wrong.

OK I appreciate it is £70 the offer and not £35, but she wants her day in court, which is never going to happen.

Perhaps the lady should read all these quotes and then understand that public opinion isn't with her.

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Maverick06 says...
4:22pm Mon 14 Jan 13

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
everyone would have more sympathy for her if she had gone over her car park ticket by 5 minutes or broken down etc ....BUT she used a bus stop to stop and she was not driving a bus, its on film, banged to rights( 7seconds or 2 minutes all the same) and it was only £35, a cheap lesson learned..imo....but ohh no she felt hard done by and probably ignored the initial fine thinking nahh what can they do..take me to court...? maybe a judge would side with her (she thought)....but it don't go to court it gets passed on to debt agencies and grows, now i'll wager IF she had the option to pay the £35 Tommorrow and forget all this she would pay the £35....exactly what should have happened in the first place., an expensive lesson learned and not all in a monetary way..!!

Looking at todays paper maybe you are wrong.

OK I appreciate it is £70 the offer and not £35, but she wants her day in court, which is never going to happen.

Perhaps the lady should read all these quotes and then understand that public opinion isn't with her.

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Maverick06 says...
4:22pm Mon 14 Jan 13

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
everyone would have more sympathy for her if she had gone over her car park ticket by 5 minutes or broken down etc ....BUT she used a bus stop to stop and she was not driving a bus, its on film, banged to rights( 7seconds or 2 minutes all the same) and it was only £35, a cheap lesson learned..imo....but ohh no she felt hard done by and probably ignored the initial fine thinking nahh what can they do..take me to court...? maybe a judge would side with her (she thought)....but it don't go to court it gets passed on to debt agencies and grows, now i'll wager IF she had the option to pay the £35 Tommorrow and forget all this she would pay the £35....exactly what should have happened in the first place., an expensive lesson learned and not all in a monetary way..!!

Looking at todays paper maybe you are wrong.

OK I appreciate it is £70 the offer and not £35, but she wants her day in court, which is never going to happen.

Perhaps the lady should read all these quotes and then understand that public opinion isn't with her.

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halojump says...
6:39pm Mon 14 Jan 13

just read mondays echo which updates the story. This woman is an idiot!!! Here own husband drives taxis and would be livid if someone parked in a taxi rank preventing him from pulling in. Same highway code section covers taxi ranks as it does bus stops. She is either a complete lier or the most unlucky person in the history of the spy car to be caught dropping off her poor old father which she claims took only 7 seconds. So from what she claims the spy car photographed her pulling up till pull away she should be looked at for abuse if she shoved the poor old sod out in 7 seconds and pulled away. Or perhaps she tells small white lies and hopes to get away with it. Like never receiving letters about the fine and appeals procedure. No sympaphy and its about time the council send whyte and co in to remove her car.

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J_blond says...
11:59am Tue 15 Jan 13

Reading back through Carol's comments made me laugh - surely a magistrate would know the difference between civil and criminal? Oh but she hasn't sat on the bench in 14 months but was in during August, but she wasn't actually there... and we've not head from her since...

Anyway I'm sorry but have to agree - firstly, 7 seconds for an elderly gentleman who can't walk to a bus stop to get out of a car seems impossible, and if she'd just accepted the fine, and the ruling of the council, none of this would be making news.

I guess it's just the 'I'm hard done by, I'll try and get out of it' sob story approach. Too many people run to the papers these days...

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Maverick06 says...
5:58pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Sorry about four comments the same, but the button got stuck! I wasn't trying to move the comment counter up, honest!!

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Chris Flunk says...
11:05am Wed 6 Feb 13

hmm, hardly normal behaviour.

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