Fears over work on proposed waste plant site (From Echo)

Quote Mark Woodger: "It was a local business looking to expand, which would retain jobs and could create more..."
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Unlike some third world countries, we are not yet at the point of "jobs at any cost" (although some may argue otherwise). However, this is the stance many developers are now taking in order to get planning permission.
Now, I am not against anything that will recycle waste but, then again, I do not live near this proposed plant.
However, anything that will have a negative impact on the neighbouring community should never be given planning permission. I am not talking a few NIMBYs who may be unhappy but an entire community. Whether this recycling plant will have that sort of impact I do not know but no planning permission should be granted based purely on the basis of job creation speculation. How about Mark Woodger let the community in on what the other benefits for the plant would be by being situated where it is (apart fron the obvious environmental recycling spin and the fact that the company running it will make an awful lot of money). What will the community, immediately surrounding the plant, gain from it? I suspect nothing.

they'll probably get more of the stink thats already around in that area

whataday wrote:
they'll probably get more of the stink thats already around in that area

might even mask some of the smell from the nearby water treatment works....

There is a point in consulting the locals? I think most of the locals are used to the idea that the Council could put a little market stall with some placard displays in the Eastgate centre, thereby fully consulting with the people who live there, and then go ahead and do exactly as they pleased, just as they are doing with the Basildon town centre and parkland sell offs.
Why bother? save the money to further improve Wickford memorial park, or find another field in Billericay to get blessed by Her Majesty in perpetuum.

I see the story in paper yesterday, the picture of the 2 x 'Campaigners' (JOKE THAT IS!) did make me laugh with their feeble attempts to look defiant! LOL!.....They looked more like a couple of elderly train spotters who have too much time o their hands....what a couple of sad N.I.M.B.Y.'s!....No one made you live in Pitsea, if you don't like it MOVE!!....the tip and all the other industrial sites were there when you decided to move in !....its hardly rural is it....I should know, unfortunatley i live here and not far from the site unlike person above making stupid comments like:......what does local community get out of it, you answered your own question..JOBS!!!...
Oh sorry I forget what a vibrant wealthy jobs in the plenty place Pitsea is!....but what do you care Emcee you're probably retired or on benefits anyway!

Marie b wrote:
I see the story in paper yesterday, the picture of the 2 x 'Campaigners' (JOKE THAT IS!) did make me laugh with their feeble attempts to look defiant! LOL!.....They looked more like a couple of elderly train spotters who have too much time o their hands....what a couple of sad N.I.M.B.Y.'s!....No one made you live in Pitsea, if you don't like it MOVE!!....the tip and all the other industrial sites were there when you decided to move in !....its hardly rural is it....I should know, unfortunatley i live here and not far from the site unlike person above making stupid comments like:......what does local community get out of it, you answered your own question..JOBS!!!...

Oh sorry I forget what a vibrant wealthy jobs in the plenty place Pitsea is!....but what do you care Emcee you're probably retired or on benefits anyway!

Sounds like someone needs to learn to read properly.
Try again.

Why can't we comment on the two stories regarding Dale Farm ???

I don't think so somehow Emcee, your point is clear enough with your previous post.

As to previous comments as to Dale farm lot & stories you're dead right 'In the know ok'.....if the local NIMBYS get there way with objecting to waste company setting up recycling site we'll end up with the Dale farm lot on the site....they tried before as anyone local knows & SHOULD remember, I know what I'd prefer to see happen to the site as to my neighbours & friends.....and thanks to the ECHO story above the travellers now know how much to buy the land for!!..Well done ECHO & local Councillors (Cllr Sandra Hilier & Keith Bobbin) for moaning !, you people really don't think things out do you before you get on phone moaning & finger pointing at places you don't even live near!...do you have that much time on your hands??....If travellers ended up on site if waste firm pulled out you'be be kicking yourselves then wouldn't you...& one would imagine you would NOT be very well thought of or popular then woudl you!!!!

The site has been there for months and its only just been noticed ? In my naivety I thought it would be legitimate. However not. Therefore kick em off. If it was an illegal house extension then I am sure the Council would have come down on us like a ton of bricks. Not fair. Kick em off and revoke all licences and applications. Stick to the rules. Mark Woodger your explanation is pathetic. Its for increasing profit at the cost of the local community, planning rules and basic decency!

To 'Tom from Southend' (Doesn't really concern you then does it!)

Your comments are deserving of the word pathetic!

You obviously have not got a clue what your posting comments about have you, see here's the thing you & it seem the 'Nimbys' don't get or realize, the company there aren't actually doing anything illegal or wrong by 'planning rules' as you state....you said it yourself, yes you are naive & your post clearly shows that.

Marie b wrote:
To 'Tom from Southend' (Doesn't really concern you then does it!)

Your comments are deserving of the word pathetic!

You obviously have not got a clue what your posting comments about have you, see here's the thing you & it seem the 'Nimbys' don't get or realize, the company there aren't actually doing anything illegal or wrong by 'planning rules' as you state....you said it yourself, yes you are naive & your post clearly shows that.

Marie b..What are you on about. I may well live in Southend but I am a daily visitor to this part of the world due to my work, therefore it does impact upon my life. Read the article as well "However, it has yet to get the green light from county councillors with a decision not due until February". If you want to condone Companies running their business outside of normal practice, general decency or consideration for others then fine thats your call but do not call me naive, concerned yes, caring yes and I find it sad that there is no consideration of the planning process by Heard. Its profits over decency. Be careful what you say and read the article and my original post again.

Marie b wrote:
To 'Tom from Southend' (Doesn't really concern you then does it!)

Your comments are deserving of the word pathetic!

You obviously have not got a clue what your posting comments about have you, see here's the thing you & it seem the 'Nimbys' don't get or realize, the company there aren't actually doing anything illegal or wrong by 'planning rules' as you state....you said it yourself, yes you are naive & your post clearly shows that.

Marie b:

You make much of the Acronym "Nimbys" but I wonder if you actually know that as a fact about the people opposed to the plant. I am totally against this kind of plant that is going to be built here or anywhere else, but it will be built here whether I or anyone else likes it, for that is how democracy works in this country now.
However, you are attempting to convince people that NIMBY's are what anyone who opposes the plant are, so perhaps you could offer two things to this discussion.
1. Where do you live in relation to the plant?
2. Have you a vested interest in its installation and, if so, if you live a safe distance from it, would you consider having it built within, say, one mile from your door?

To answer your 'Democracy' point, what are you talking about??...you make it sound like the company want to build a incinerator plant on the site which if you read the plans they are clearly not....and how can you say you are against it there or anywhere??....I take it your one of those clever 'consumer' human beings then who does not create 'waste' or use a bin or a skip ever??(Yeah right!)...no don't tell me you either compost it in your garden or you take it all down the 'Civic amenity site' (A waste transfer & segregation site which is essence the same as what company want to do on Terminus Drive!).......yes thats right just like the one already in Pitsea Hall Lane that EVERYONE uses when it suits them to at a cost to us the tax payers ultimately.

And to answer question 1: I live in Chestnut Road, Pitsea so I am close by so I know what I'm talking about & it does effect me, as previously stated I'd rather anything than the travellers who nearly got on this site & ruined I & my neighbours lives!

And as to question 2. My 22 year old Nephew & 2 of his friends work for company and they have done for a few years now.

I'm just glad as my Brother is that these lads have got regular work, there's not much else going on & if it doesn't effect me where i live I don't see why the 2 x elderly people in Brackendale Avenue are moaning, I chose to live here, if I could afford to move to somewhere less Industrial & quieter I would believe me, as someone else posted on first story 'its hardly Kew Gardens is it'...hate to admit it but its true!...if it was not a suitable location don't you think Crossrail / Network rail would not have had the site reserved for waste transfer purposes for last 12 years until they sold it in 2011.

Marie b wrote:
To answer your 'Democracy' point, what are you talking about??...you make it sound like the company want to build a incinerator plant on the site which if you read the plans they are clearly not....and how can you say you are against it there or anywhere??....I take it your one of those clever 'consumer' human beings then who does not create 'waste' or use a bin or a skip ever??(Yeah right!)...no don't tell me you either compost it in your garden or you take it all down the 'Civic amenity site' (A waste transfer & segregation site which is essence the same as what company want to do on Terminus Drive!).......yes thats right just like the one already in Pitsea Hall Lane that EVERYONE uses when it suits them to at a cost to us the tax payers ultimately.

And to answer question 1: I live in Chestnut Road, Pitsea so I am close by so I know what I'm talking about & it does effect me, as previously stated I'd rather anything than the travellers who nearly got on this site & ruined I & my neighbours lives!

And as to question 2. My 22 year old Nephew & 2 of his friends work for company and they have done for a few years now.

I'm just glad as my Brother is that these lads have got regular work, there's not much else going on & if it doesn't effect me where i live I don't see why the 2 x elderly people in Brackendale Avenue are moaning, I chose to live here, if I could afford to move to somewhere less Industrial & quieter I would believe me, as someone else posted on first story 'its hardly Kew Gardens is it'...hate to admit it but its true!...if it was not a suitable location don't you think Crossrail / Network rail would not have had the site reserved for waste transfer purposes for last 12 years until they sold it in 2011.

Oh no! I've got to grovel. I thought this was about the incinerator we are supposed to be getting. Please ignore my post, I spotted the "Burnt Mills road" and did not even read the article.

Apologies to Marie b. I got the wrong rubbish, I did not read the article properly, sorry if I upset you, I have no problem with waste transfer stations, I helped set one up in Canning town, and can not see anything wrong with them.

I just do not think democracy was used when deciding the Burnt Mills Incinerator site, nothing else.

No Problem whatsoever, appreciate your honesty & apology in post reply, fair play to you!!

Marie b wrote:
No Problem whatsoever, appreciate your honesty & apology in post reply, fair play to you!!

Thank you, and I will learn to read the whole article!