Facade of 1913 cinema rebuilt as flats (From Echo)

And very nice they look too....Shame they're in Shoebury.

What's wrong with Shoebury? Leigh is nothing to be proud of these days.

leighman wrote:
And very nice they look too....Shame they're in Shoebury.

What an stupid thing to say. This is right next to the Garrison which beats any other places to live in the borough hands down. Somewhere with actual history, rather than a glorified Essex boutique street, full of TOWIE wannabes overlooking a beautiful industrial Kent chimney underneath a noisy flight path. Don't get me wrong, Old Leigh is nice, but the town of new Leigh is vile.

As it goes the building looks great, and the addition of what's rumoured to be a Tesco Express will be much appreciated!

" and the addition of what's rumoured to be a Tesco Express will be much appreciated!"

Not by local shopkeepers. It is ridiculous how many Tesco stores there are in the Southend Borough. Eleven at last count. Another proposed in central Southend, and one possibly in Ness road brings that to THIRTEEN Tesco in one town.

Welcome to Tesco-on-Sea.

There are very few shops near the Garrison. With the tally now nearing the final 400-odd homes, most of which are now large family houses, people need places to buy basic items. For some, the walk to the High Street beyond the station is too far. In the other direction, the nearest newsagent is at the beginning of Ness Road. Most of the time, they don't sell what you need so it's a car ride to Asda.

mys842 wrote:
There are very few shops near the Garrison. With the tally now nearing the final 400-odd homes, most of which are now large family houses, people need places to buy basic items. For some, the walk to the High Street beyond the station is too far. In the other direction, the nearest newsagent is at the beginning of Ness Road. Most of the time, they don't sell what you need so it's a car ride to Asda.

Too far?

In West Rd there are greengrocer, butcher, Co-op, newsagent, chemist, Rossi shop.

In Ness Road there are plumbers, car parts, newsagents, off licence, multiple takeaways of differing types.

In Shoebury High Street there are newsagent, chemist, general store, bakery indian and chinese takeaways and restaurants.

All of those shops are less than half a mile from the Garrison development. How blo0dy lazy are Garrison residents that they can't walk that far?

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

mys842 wrote: There are very few shops near the Garrison. With the tally now nearing the final 400-odd homes, most of which are now large family houses, people need places to buy basic items. For some, the walk to the High Street beyond the station is too far. In the other direction, the nearest newsagent is at the beginning of Ness Road. Most of the time, they don't sell what you need so it's a car ride to Asda.

Too far? In West Rd there are greengrocer, butcher, Co-op, newsagent, chemist, Rossi shop. In Ness Road there are plumbers, car parts, newsagents, off licence, multiple takeaways of differing types. In Shoebury High Street there are newsagent, chemist, general store, bakery indian and chinese takeaways and restaurants. All of those shops are less than half a mile from the Garrison development. How blo0dy lazy are Garrison residents that they can't walk that far?

A lot of residents are elderly; have some consideration for people not on a blo0dy bike!

mys842 wrote:

leighman wrote: And very nice they look too....Shame they're in Shoebury.

What an stupid thing to say. This is right next to the Garrison which beats any other places to live in the borough hands down. Somewhere with actual history, rather than a glorified Essex boutique street, full of TOWIE wannabes overlooking a beautiful industrial Kent chimney underneath a noisy flight path. Don't get me wrong, Old Leigh is nice, but the town of new Leigh is vile. As it goes the building looks great, and the addition of what's rumoured to be a Tesco Express will be much appreciated!

MUCH more to do in Leigh - far better offer of restaurants, bars and pubs, plus a much better connection with London (as opposed to about an hour from Shoebury).

The Garrison is nice if you like living in the middle of nowhere - plus it's surrounded by chavs!

I walked from the Garrison past this building the other day and thought to myself how good it looked.

DannyK86 wrote:

mys842 wrote:

leighman wrote: And very nice they look too....Shame they're in Shoebury.

What an stupid thing to say. This is right next to the Garrison which beats any other places to live in the borough hands down. Somewhere with actual history, rather than a glorified Essex boutique street, full of TOWIE wannabes overlooking a beautiful industrial Kent chimney underneath a noisy flight path. Don't get me wrong, Old Leigh is nice, but the town of new Leigh is vile. As it goes the building looks great, and the addition of what's rumoured to be a Tesco Express will be much appreciated!

MUCH more to do in Leigh - far better offer of restaurants, bars and pubs, plus a much better connection with London (as opposed to about an hour from Shoebury). The Garrison is nice if you like living in the middle of nowhere - plus it's surrounded by chavs!

I strongly disagree with a better connection to London - I sit on the c2c everyday and have my pick of seats. I watch Leigh residents bustling for the odd seat in the middle of a three, or more likely, standing. I'd rather travel the extra 17 mins to be honest. Plus, most Leigh residences are quite a distance from Leigh on Sea station, aside from the Marine Estate. Most of shoebury are 5 - 1 mins walk from either Shoeburyness or Thorpe Bay.

Leigh is surrounded by chavs on all sides via Westcliff, Canvey, Hadleigh and Eastwood! And to be frank, most of the Garrison residents do like living in peace - I've spoken to many who moved here from Leigh, citing overcrowding, airport noise (a massive factor now) and just wanting to get away from feeling like you're living in London.

I just object to statements like the idiotic "shame it's in Shoebury". People pay a lot of money to live here, just take a look on right move - there are just as many expensive properties in Shoebury as there are in Leigh and Thorpe Bay. As for pubs and bars, there's quite a strong reason why Thorpe Bay has next to zero and is the most expensive place to live on the c2c line, by a mile! Families don't want all that rubbish!

By the responses I see Shoebury is still good for 'fishing' then!

A certainly pleasingly designed building and so can only commend the architect and builders. Shame there's not more imaginative designs around. Lets hope the trend continues.

chunkus10 wrote:
theres a little saying thats been around for years!! "your mums your dad, your dads your mum, your inbread f*#ks, your shoebury scum" and that statement still stands just because they have built a new estate or 2 doesent change the fact that shoebury is one of the worse places to live in south essex second only to pitsea/basildon!

What an intelligent response - NOT. So we're saying Westcliff, Canvey, Tilbury, Grays (in fact wait, all of Thurrock), Laindon, Southend Central (I could go on and on) are all better than Shoebury? You're deluded mate! By the sound of the song sang where you live, you're from one of those areas!

nice bit of art deco never hurt anyone, nice to see it looking fresh and new and being used

Well maybe you lived in the not-so-nice areas of Shoebury. You get a very different view of a place depending on where you live. I'm sure the residents of Westcliff love their art-deco houses close to the seafront, but the residents of the tower blocks hate it! Southend is rough as can be - take a look at the crime rates for the borough. Shoebury actually has one of the lowest per person.

SARFENDMAN wrote:
A certainly pleasingly designed building and so can only commend the architect and builders. Shame there's not more imaginative designs around. Lets hope the trend continues.

well said. A good design which keeps some of the feel of the old building. A good compromise. The architect should be applauded.

mys842 wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

mys842 wrote: There are very few shops near the Garrison. With the tally now nearing the final 400-odd homes, most of which are now large family houses, people need places to buy basic items. For some, the walk to the High Street beyond the station is too far. In the other direction, the nearest newsagent is at the beginning of Ness Road. Most of the time, they don't sell what you need so it's a car ride to Asda.

Too far? In West Rd there are greengrocer, butcher, Co-op, newsagent, chemist, Rossi shop. In Ness Road there are plumbers, car parts, newsagents, off licence, multiple takeaways of differing types. In Shoebury High Street there are newsagent, chemist, general store, bakery indian and chinese takeaways and restaurants. All of those shops are less than half a mile from the Garrison development. How blo0dy lazy are Garrison residents that they can't walk that far?

A lot of residents are elderly; have some consideration for people not on a blo0dy bike!

I said WALK. It is less than 200 yards from the Garrison to the nearest shops. Seems you're just too lazy. Bet you're obese with it.

chunkus10 wrote:
i do live in southend now but i lived in scummy shoebury for 3yrs i think thats enough for me to know what a **** hole it is!! like i said a few houses here and there dont take all the chavy scum bags away does it?

I can only imagine what area(s) of Shoebury you lived in...... or maybe you're just a troll?

Either way I've lived in Shoebury for most of my life and can't really see any justification for your "scummy" remarks.

Yes there are areas that are scummy and nasty.... I avoid them like the plague but most of the Shoebury I feel quite safe to walk around at night.

Let's face it, with maybe the exception of Thorpebay..... Southchurch, Southend, Westcliff, Leigh, Eastwood, Benfleet etc all have areas that are nicer than others and areas that you just don't go near.

Keeping on topic. It's nice to see developers actually paying homage to the architecture of the past, especially where this architecture was destroyed to make way for the new development. Shame other developers are not required to do so (nudge Southend council).
Back off topic (battle of Shoebury Vs Leigh).
Shoebury has some nice areas.
Leigh has some nice and EXPENSIVE areas.
Shoebury has some, not quite so nice areas.
Leigh has a quite a lot of not quite so nice areas. I say quite a lot but this is due to the fact that it covers quite a large area with a larger population density.
Leigh has, in general, always been a nice place to live but for one or two reasons (and I do not buy into aircraft noise for one bit) is on the decline.
Shoebury had a reputation of being not so nice. However, it is most definately on the up.
The smart money is on Shoebury to be the desirable area to live in the not to distant future.

Think I agree, different people will prefer to live in different areas, of course. Shoebury is a pretty small place, and quite a bit of it is taken around the light industrial areas around the railway. However, it has three major areas which are pretty **** nice, being The Garrison, North Shoebury/Bishopsteig
nton and then the Seafront part. It also borders Thorpe Bay which gives a lot of Shoebury residents the movement across the property ladder as they grow older.

What really makes me mad is when Shoebury does try to gentrify (on topic by the way), ensuring good architecture is restored nicely like in the Garrison (e.g. Officer's Mess, Terraces, the Old Hospital, the Visitor Centre, the Chapel, the list goes on), this building, the Shoebury Hotel, and let's hope the old Hinguar School, people rubbish the place!

There's a really nasty whiff of Leigh residents believeing they are better than the rest, with no basis other than they live a couple of miles closer to London!

emcee wrote:
Keeping on topic. It's nice to see developers actually paying homage to the architecture of the past, especially where this architecture was destroyed to make way for the new development. Shame other developers are not required to do so (nudge Southend council).
Back off topic (battle of Shoebury Vs Leigh).
Shoebury has some nice areas.
Leigh has some nice and EXPENSIVE areas.
Shoebury has some, not quite so nice areas.
Leigh has a quite a lot of not quite so nice areas. I say quite a lot but this is due to the fact that it covers quite a large area with a larger population density.
Leigh has, in general, always been a nice place to live but for one or two reasons (and I do not buy into aircraft noise for one bit) is on the decline.
Shoebury had a reputation of being not so nice. However, it is most definately on the up.
The smart money is on Shoebury to be the desirable area to live in the not to distant future.

Shoebury has expensive areas too. £1.5 million for a house. And that's one of the cheaper ones.

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

emcee wrote: Keeping on topic. It's nice to see developers actually paying homage to the architecture of the past, especially where this architecture was destroyed to make way for the new development. Shame other developers are not required to do so (nudge Southend council). Back off topic (battle of Shoebury Vs Leigh). Shoebury has some nice areas. Leigh has some nice and EXPENSIVE areas. Shoebury has some, not quite so nice areas. Leigh has a quite a lot of not quite so nice areas. I say quite a lot but this is due to the fact that it covers quite a large area with a larger population density. Leigh has, in general, always been a nice place to live but for one or two reasons (and I do not buy into aircraft noise for one bit) is on the decline. Shoebury had a reputation of being not so nice. However, it is most definately on the up. The smart money is on Shoebury to be the desirable area to live in the not to distant future.

Shoebury has expensive areas too. £1.5 million for a house. And that's one of the cheaper ones.

One of them on the seafront sold for £2.25 million in 2011. The Garrison has about a hundred homes currently being built or being finished between about £290,000 and £600,000. The Officer's Mess ones went for between £799,000 and £1.75 million. Then there's these new apartments and the ones in The Boatyard beside the hotel.

That's quite a few pushing up the average of the area.

I was a little fearful when the old camping shop closed, fully expecting a bulldozer and yet another pile of red bricks and uPVC. Instead the architects and builders have done a smashing job and it looks brilliant. Another feather in Shoebury's cap. Not too keen on the idea of another Tes Express, cut through to West Road if you want a small supermarket, but overall this a lovely development.

leighman wrote:
By the responses I see Shoebury is still good for 'fishing' then!

If you fancy a bit of fishing leighman, I have a trolling motor you can stick on the back of your boat for some extra oomph ;-)

TBH its sort of in the middle of the good and the ugly. The Garrison is a stone throws away but then so is the Chelmer/Crouch/Stour
/Avon Way part. As for needing another shop, that is tosh as West Road is fine for getting a few bits although Co-Op is pricey. My main concern around here is the traffic and road layout and peoples parking in and around this area! Accident waiting to happen IMO!

shoeburyness has lots going for it several good schools including one high school many people from the thorpe bay area of shoebury fight to get their children in rather than the southend based schools. This development of the old cinema looks good but please dont give too much credit to the developers keeping the look of the facade. When gaining planning they were told to keep the front historical frontage but sadly this came down over night with no warning.
Lets not put shoebury down, it is like leigh a historical part of the district and has much going for it.
Maybe as TOWIE chavs have gained their foothold in the broadway more people will look at moving out to the slightly more relaxed bits of the town where people dont pass through.

Seriously pathetic string of posts.
Leigh v Shoebury..come on get a life you saddos.
Try doing something for your own community rather than peering over the fence and knocking what your neighbours may or may not have...
And then you lot reach a barrel scrapping low by trying to out do it each other on house prices ..which reveals just how empty your lives have become.
DISAPPOINTING!!!!!!!
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