Make it tougher for burglars, say police

Echo: Make it tougher for burglars, say police Make it tougher for burglars, say police

RESIDENTS are being urged to lock up or lose out to burglars as part of a new campaign designed to cut the number of break-ins.
 

Basildon is one of three hotspot areas - including Epping Forest and Harlow - which is being targeted by the joint Essex Police and Essex County Council campaign due to a rise in the number of break-ins.
 

Between January and March last year, there were 304 burglaries across the borough, an average of more than 100 per month.
 

Now, through the Safer Essex partnership, police have teamed up with Essex County Council to run the joint advertising campaign, urging people to think twice before leaving homes unlocked and valuables on display.
 

A massive advertising van has been placed in Basildon’s Town Square with the slogan “remember lock doors and windows before I leave the house” and posters are also being given out to residents and displayed on buses urging people to take simple steps such as locking doors and windows.
 

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12:50pm Wed 30 Jan 13

emcee says...

Can I suggest a couple of things that may see quite quite radical?
Firstly, how about the police actually do their job and actively hunt down the burglars. It should not be too hard, all these burglaries are bound to be commited by the same person/group of people.
Secondly, how about judges passing down maximum sentences, even for first time burglars.
Can I suggest a couple of things that may see quite quite radical? Firstly, how about the police actually do their job and actively hunt down the burglars. It should not be too hard, all these burglaries are bound to be commited by the same person/group of people. Secondly, how about judges passing down maximum sentences, even for first time burglars. emcee

1:15pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Ugly says...

emcee wrote:
Can I suggest a couple of things that may see quite quite radical?
Firstly, how about the police actually do their job and actively hunt down the burglars. It should not be too hard, all these burglaries are bound to be commited by the same person/group of people.
Secondly, how about judges passing down maximum sentences, even for first time burglars.
Well said!
[quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: Can I suggest a couple of things that may see quite quite radical? Firstly, how about the police actually do their job and actively hunt down the burglars. It should not be too hard, all these burglaries are bound to be commited by the same person/group of people. Secondly, how about judges passing down maximum sentences, even for first time burglars.[/p][/quote]Well said! Ugly

1:32pm Wed 30 Jan 13

EthanEdwards says...

Exactly ..perhaps the 'new justice squad' could actually lock up crims instead of urging us to lock ourselves up instead.
Radical I know....
Exactly ..perhaps the 'new justice squad' could actually lock up crims instead of urging us to lock ourselves up instead. Radical I know.... EthanEdwards

2:03pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Carnabackable says...

emcee wrote:
Can I suggest a couple of things that may see quite quite radical?
Firstly, how about the police actually do their job and actively hunt down the burglars. It should not be too hard, all these burglaries are bound to be commited by the same person/group of people.
Secondly, how about judges passing down maximum sentences, even for first time burglars.
Can I suggest one thing to you, LOCK IT
[quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: Can I suggest a couple of things that may see quite quite radical? Firstly, how about the police actually do their job and actively hunt down the burglars. It should not be too hard, all these burglaries are bound to be commited by the same person/group of people. Secondly, how about judges passing down maximum sentences, even for first time burglars.[/p][/quote]Can I suggest one thing to you, LOCK IT Carnabackable

3:04pm Wed 30 Jan 13

mr_happy says...

Why should we have to keep spending hundreds of pound on new locks, cameras and security. Get the scumbags and make them graft for their crimes. Make them pay for any damage and let them incur heavy compensation claims. If they cannot pay, they should go to a work camp and suffer.
Why should we have to keep spending hundreds of pound on new locks, cameras and security. Get the scumbags and make them graft for their crimes. Make them pay for any damage and let them incur heavy compensation claims. If they cannot pay, they should go to a work camp and suffer. mr_happy

3:37pm Wed 30 Jan 13

notinwestcliffanymore says...

Thieving is not a new Phenomenon, we used to send people to the other side of the world to work till they dropped and still it went on. My philosophy is to make my stuff as secure as possible so that the rat goes next door, that is also the advice i gave my neighbour, But still he has not fitted an alarm so when that tit ronnie trentton walks down the road on the look out where will he go?
Thieving is not a new Phenomenon, we used to send people to the other side of the world to work till they dropped and still it went on. My philosophy is to make my stuff as secure as possible so that the rat goes next door, that is also the advice i gave my neighbour, But still he has not fitted an alarm so when that tit ronnie trentton walks down the road on the look out where will he go? notinwestcliffanymore

5:39pm Wed 30 Jan 13

jolllyboy says...

I for one am fed up with being told to be careful. We are - that's why it is called burglary we dont invite them in. Trying to make out its our fault will not encourage good feelings. Get your fingers out and solve these crimes. Essex is the worst in the country what a reputation to have.
I for one am fed up with being told to be careful. We are - that's why it is called burglary we dont invite them in. Trying to make out its our fault will not encourage good feelings. Get your fingers out and solve these crimes. Essex is the worst in the country what a reputation to have. jolllyboy

5:51pm Wed 30 Jan 13

iknowbetter says...

emcee wrote:
Can I suggest a couple of things that may see quite quite radical? Firstly, how about the police actually do their job and actively hunt down the burglars. It should not be too hard, all these burglaries are bound to be commited by the same person/group of people. Secondly, how about judges passing down maximum sentences, even for first time burglars.
I agree with the last part but its not the police you need to blame, everyone should be doing everything they can to deter burglaries, the police probably do know who these scumbags are but to prosecute with the CPS only taking on cases with a 95% chance of winning, (to save cash), their hands are tied. The judicial system in this country is a sham, but sadly cost in £'s overides even the judicial system and laws.
[quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: Can I suggest a couple of things that may see quite quite radical? Firstly, how about the police actually do their job and actively hunt down the burglars. It should not be too hard, all these burglaries are bound to be commited by the same person/group of people. Secondly, how about judges passing down maximum sentences, even for first time burglars.[/p][/quote]I agree with the last part but its not the police you need to blame, everyone should be doing everything they can to deter burglaries, the police probably do know who these scumbags are but to prosecute with the CPS only taking on cases with a 95% chance of winning, (to save cash), their hands are tied. The judicial system in this country is a sham, but sadly cost in £'s overides even the judicial system and laws. iknowbetter

6:06pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Carnabackable says...

I find that apart from cctv in and out of my castle, with alarms, you just can't beat a large vicious dog, with sharp teeth...
I find that apart from cctv in and out of my castle, with alarms, you just can't beat a large vicious dog, with sharp teeth... Carnabackable

6:32pm Wed 30 Jan 13

notinwestcliffanymore says...

Carnabackable wrote:
I find that apart from cctv in and out of my castle, with alarms, you just can't beat a large vicious dog, with sharp teeth...
I d rather be burgled than married to her though,
[quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: I find that apart from cctv in and out of my castle, with alarms, you just can't beat a large vicious dog, with sharp teeth...[/p][/quote]I d rather be burgled than married to her though, notinwestcliffanymore

9:51pm Wed 30 Jan 13

canopy says...

It has to be said that the comments the Police being more proactive it true . The Public can only do so much but when they become victims the Police launch campaigns like this well I notice under the figures for burglary are not shown the figures for arrests for burglaries, a bit one sided dont u think ? Plus how many times do you see the local Police sat in groups drinking coffee in the local BP garages at night ? I hardly call that pro active anti burglary policing to support their campaigns !
It has to be said that the comments the Police being more proactive it true . The Public can only do so much but when they become victims the Police launch campaigns like this well I notice under the figures for burglary are not shown the figures for arrests for burglaries, a bit one sided dont u think ? Plus how many times do you see the local Police sat in groups drinking coffee in the local BP garages at night ? I hardly call that pro active anti burglary policing to support their campaigns ! canopy

10:05pm Wed 30 Jan 13

iknowbetter says...

canopy wrote:
It has to be said that the comments the Police being more proactive it true . The Public can only do so much but when they become victims the Police launch campaigns like this well I notice under the figures for burglary are not shown the figures for arrests for burglaries, a bit one sided dont u think ? Plus how many times do you see the local Police sat in groups drinking coffee in the local BP garages at night ? I hardly call that pro active anti burglary policing to support their campaigns !
Sadly the Police only have the powers of arrest when a crime is committed, the CPS these days are judge and jury and believe you me the Police find this part of their job the most frustrating.
[quote][p][bold]canopy[/bold] wrote: It has to be said that the comments the Police being more proactive it true . The Public can only do so much but when they become victims the Police launch campaigns like this well I notice under the figures for burglary are not shown the figures for arrests for burglaries, a bit one sided dont u think ? Plus how many times do you see the local Police sat in groups drinking coffee in the local BP garages at night ? I hardly call that pro active anti burglary policing to support their campaigns ![/p][/quote]Sadly the Police only have the powers of arrest when a crime is committed, the CPS these days are judge and jury and believe you me the Police find this part of their job the most frustrating. iknowbetter

10:17pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Devils Advocate says...

So now the Police can't stop for a cup of tea? Seems a bit unfair when you think how many people there are who sit in their office with their computers running "solitaire" or busy tapping away a letter to the Echo, with the coffee machine sitting ready to top them up at a second's notice, and, unlike those dreadful men who do a job the public hate them for,not once thinking about how it will feel when the "Released into the community druggie" inserts his "blade" into their ribs, and whilst they ponder this, they grieve a little at the way their pensions are being hacked to pieces and they worry about why they have to be on their own when they stop a car with four burly "notmyfaults" in it, looking for someone to beat up. Then, if they do arrest someone, they spend the next three weeks writing up the case, miss the fact that they left one "I" un-dotted and the "Can't prosecute service" chuck the case out, and the poor PC gets yet another black mark placed permanently on his record, and you bemoan the fact that they stop for a break? Tell me, is your real name Cameron?
So now the Police can't stop for a cup of tea? Seems a bit unfair when you think how many people there are who sit in their office with their computers running "solitaire" or busy tapping away a letter to the Echo, with the coffee machine sitting ready to top them up at a second's notice, and, unlike those dreadful men who do a job the public hate them for,not once thinking about how it will feel when the "Released into the community druggie" inserts his "blade" into their ribs, and whilst they ponder this, they grieve a little at the way their pensions are being hacked to pieces and they worry about why they have to be on their own when they stop a car with four burly "notmyfaults" in it, looking for someone to beat up. Then, if they do arrest someone, they spend the next three weeks writing up the case, miss the fact that they left one "I" un-dotted and the "Can't prosecute service" chuck the case out, and the poor PC gets yet another black mark placed permanently on his record, and you bemoan the fact that they stop for a break? Tell me, is your real name Cameron? Devils Advocate

1:08am Thu 31 Jan 13

Nebs says...

canopy wrote:
It has to be said that the comments the Police being more proactive it true . The Public can only do so much but when they become victims the Police launch campaigns like this well I notice under the figures for burglary are not shown the figures for arrests for burglaries, a bit one sided dont u think ? Plus how many times do you see the local Police sat in groups drinking coffee in the local BP garages at night ? I hardly call that pro active anti burglary policing to support their campaigns !
Better they sit in a place that is a target for robbers such as the BP garage, and are seen, than to go back to the police station every time they have a cuppa.
[quote][p][bold]canopy[/bold] wrote: It has to be said that the comments the Police being more proactive it true . The Public can only do so much but when they become victims the Police launch campaigns like this well I notice under the figures for burglary are not shown the figures for arrests for burglaries, a bit one sided dont u think ? Plus how many times do you see the local Police sat in groups drinking coffee in the local BP garages at night ? I hardly call that pro active anti burglary policing to support their campaigns ![/p][/quote]Better they sit in a place that is a target for robbers such as the BP garage, and are seen, than to go back to the police station every time they have a cuppa. Nebs

12:32pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Ugly says...

Whats to stop the thieving scumbags nicking your expensive CCTV cameras.

The last time my garage was broken into I tried to get advice from the Police about installing one of these Alarm Mines.

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They couldnt comment as they couldnt decide if it was legal or not. So much for asking for advice.
Whats to stop the thieving scumbags nicking your expensive CCTV cameras. The last time my garage was broken into I tried to get advice from the Police about installing one of these Alarm Mines. http://www.ebay.co.u k/itm/Alarm-mine-det ering-intruders-/110 997321855#vi-content or http://www.amazon.co .uk/dp/B0049ACMC6/re f=asc_df_B0049ACMC61 1725852?smid=A3QQQEQ GSFRAHD&tag=googleco uk06-21&linkCode=asn &creative=22218&crea tiveASIN=B0049ACMC6 They couldnt comment as they couldnt decide if it was legal or not. So much for asking for advice. Ugly

12:36pm Thu 31 Jan 13

perini says...

Ugly wrote:
Whats to stop the thieving scumbags nicking your expensive CCTV cameras. The last time my garage was broken into I tried to get advice from the Police about installing one of these Alarm Mines. http://www.ebay.co.u k/itm/Alarm-mine-det ering-intruders-/110 997321855#vi-content or http://www.amazon.co .uk/dp/B0049ACMC6/re f=asc_df_B0049ACMC61 1725852?smid=A3QQQEQ GSFRAHD&tag=goog
leco uk06-21&linkCode
=asn &creative=22218&
amp;crea tiveASIN=B0049ACMC6 They couldnt comment as they couldnt decide if it was legal or not. So much for asking for advice.
Pity it uses a blank!!
[quote][p][bold]Ugly[/bold] wrote: Whats to stop the thieving scumbags nicking your expensive CCTV cameras. The last time my garage was broken into I tried to get advice from the Police about installing one of these Alarm Mines. http://www.ebay.co.u k/itm/Alarm-mine-det ering-intruders-/110 997321855#vi-content or http://www.amazon.co .uk/dp/B0049ACMC6/re f=asc_df_B0049ACMC61 1725852?smid=A3QQQEQ GSFRAHD&tag=goog leco uk06-21&linkCode =asn &creative=22218& amp;crea tiveASIN=B0049ACMC6 They couldnt comment as they couldnt decide if it was legal or not. So much for asking for advice.[/p][/quote]Pity it uses a blank!! perini

12:55pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Ugly says...

perini wrote:
Ugly wrote:
Whats to stop the thieving scumbags nicking your expensive CCTV cameras. The last time my garage was broken into I tried to get advice from the Police about installing one of these Alarm Mines. http://www.ebay.co.u k/itm/Alarm-mine-det ering-intruders-/110 997321855#vi-content or http://www.amazon.co .uk/dp/B0049ACMC6/re f=asc_df_B0049ACMC61 1725852?smid=A3QQQEQ GSFRAHD&tag=goog

leco uk06-21&linkCode

=asn &creative=22218&
amp;
amp;crea tiveASIN=B0049ACMC6 They couldnt comment as they couldnt decide if it was legal or not. So much for asking for advice.
Pity it uses a blank!!
I have been told that filling them with rocksalt is very effective!
[quote][p][bold]perini[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ugly[/bold] wrote: Whats to stop the thieving scumbags nicking your expensive CCTV cameras. The last time my garage was broken into I tried to get advice from the Police about installing one of these Alarm Mines. http://www.ebay.co.u k/itm/Alarm-mine-det ering-intruders-/110 997321855#vi-content or http://www.amazon.co .uk/dp/B0049ACMC6/re f=asc_df_B0049ACMC61 1725852?smid=A3QQQEQ GSFRAHD&tag=goog leco uk06-21&linkCode =asn &creative=22218& amp; amp;crea tiveASIN=B0049ACMC6 They couldnt comment as they couldnt decide if it was legal or not. So much for asking for advice.[/p][/quote]Pity it uses a blank!![/p][/quote]I have been told that filling them with rocksalt is very effective! Ugly

3:19pm Thu 31 Jan 13

whataday says...

Devils Advocate wrote:
So now the Police can't stop for a cup of tea? Seems a bit unfair when you think how many people there are who sit in their office with their computers running "solitaire" or busy tapping away a letter to the Echo, with the coffee machine sitting ready to top them up at a second's notice, and, unlike those dreadful men who do a job the public hate them for,not once thinking about how it will feel when the "Released into the community druggie" inserts his "blade" into their ribs, and whilst they ponder this, they grieve a little at the way their pensions are being hacked to pieces and they worry about why they have to be on their own when they stop a car with four burly "notmyfaults" in it, looking for someone to beat up. Then, if they do arrest someone, they spend the next three weeks writing up the case, miss the fact that they left one "I" un-dotted and the "Can't prosecute service" chuck the case out, and the poor PC gets yet another black mark placed permanently on his record, and you bemoan the fact that they stop for a break? Tell me, is your real name Cameron?
Agree entirely. Its about time police were allowed to dish out a bit of justice because in most cases they know who are committing the crimes but our justice system is so laughable that it ties police's hands and protects criminals.
[quote][p][bold]Devils Advocate[/bold] wrote: So now the Police can't stop for a cup of tea? Seems a bit unfair when you think how many people there are who sit in their office with their computers running "solitaire" or busy tapping away a letter to the Echo, with the coffee machine sitting ready to top them up at a second's notice, and, unlike those dreadful men who do a job the public hate them for,not once thinking about how it will feel when the "Released into the community druggie" inserts his "blade" into their ribs, and whilst they ponder this, they grieve a little at the way their pensions are being hacked to pieces and they worry about why they have to be on their own when they stop a car with four burly "notmyfaults" in it, looking for someone to beat up. Then, if they do arrest someone, they spend the next three weeks writing up the case, miss the fact that they left one "I" un-dotted and the "Can't prosecute service" chuck the case out, and the poor PC gets yet another black mark placed permanently on his record, and you bemoan the fact that they stop for a break? Tell me, is your real name Cameron?[/p][/quote]Agree entirely. Its about time police were allowed to dish out a bit of justice because in most cases they know who are committing the crimes but our justice system is so laughable that it ties police's hands and protects criminals. whataday

3:22pm Thu 31 Jan 13

whataday says...

iknowbetter wrote:
emcee wrote:
Can I suggest a couple of things that may see quite quite radical? Firstly, how about the police actually do their job and actively hunt down the burglars. It should not be too hard, all these burglaries are bound to be commited by the same person/group of people. Secondly, how about judges passing down maximum sentences, even for first time burglars.
I agree with the last part but its not the police you need to blame, everyone should be doing everything they can to deter burglaries, the police probably do know who these scumbags are but to prosecute with the CPS only taking on cases with a 95% chance of winning, (to save cash), their hands are tied. The judicial system in this country is a sham, but sadly cost in £'s overides even the judicial system and laws.
What about leaving the police to do their job and dole out a bit of justice when they get their hands on these scumbags instead of berating the police because they frustratingly work in a system which favours the criminal
[quote][p][bold]iknowbetter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: Can I suggest a couple of things that may see quite quite radical? Firstly, how about the police actually do their job and actively hunt down the burglars. It should not be too hard, all these burglaries are bound to be commited by the same person/group of people. Secondly, how about judges passing down maximum sentences, even for first time burglars.[/p][/quote]I agree with the last part but its not the police you need to blame, everyone should be doing everything they can to deter burglaries, the police probably do know who these scumbags are but to prosecute with the CPS only taking on cases with a 95% chance of winning, (to save cash), their hands are tied. The judicial system in this country is a sham, but sadly cost in £'s overides even the judicial system and laws.[/p][/quote]What about leaving the police to do their job and dole out a bit of justice when they get their hands on these scumbags instead of berating the police because they frustratingly work in a system which favours the criminal whataday

9:24pm Thu 31 Jan 13

I love Essex says...

notinwestcliffanymor
e
wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
I find that apart from cctv in and out of my castle, with alarms, you just can't beat a large vicious dog, with sharp teeth...
I d rather be burgled than married to her though,
But don't have a sign up advertising the fact. If a said sign advertises 'beware of the dog' and the burglar gets bitten, apparently its the house holders problem as they have advertised that they are aware that the dog is dangerous. Should it say ' dogs loose', then more fool the intruder.
[quote][p][bold]notinwestcliffanymor e[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: I find that apart from cctv in and out of my castle, with alarms, you just can't beat a large vicious dog, with sharp teeth...[/p][/quote]I d rather be burgled than married to her though,[/p][/quote]But don't have a sign up advertising the fact. If a said sign advertises 'beware of the dog' and the burglar gets bitten, apparently its the house holders problem as they have advertised that they are aware that the dog is dangerous. Should it say ' dogs loose', then more fool the intruder. I love Essex

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