Canvey to receive £2million boost if 600 homes built at Thorney Bay Caravan Park

2:20pm Thursday 31st January 2013 in Local News

Set for development - Thorney Bay Caravan Park, Canvey Set for development - Thorney Bay Caravan Park, Canvey

MILLIONS of pounds could be ploughed into improving Canvey’s infrastructure if controversial plans for hundreds of homes at Thorney Bay Caravan Park go ahead.

Outline planning permission was granted for the development of up to 600 homes at a Castle Point Council meeting in September, sparking outrage from residents and councillors who claim it will clog up the island’s roads with extra traffic and put pressure on schools and health facilities.

The plans were approved in principle subject to Section 106 agreement being decided on what contributions land owner and millionaire businessman Jeff King would need to make if formal planning permission is granted.

Now, council planning officers have revealed Mr King could have to splash out more than £2million in financial contributions which include:

- £100,000 towards improving tidal defences
- £1,458 per dwelling towards improving sports and recreation facilities – which could total £874,956
- £655.26 per dwelling towards improving access and signage – which could total £393,156
- £31,644 towards CCTV cameras
- £73,744 per 100 dwellings towards post-sixteen education services – which could total £442,464
- £241 per dwelling towards adult social care –which could total £144,600
- £281 per dwelling for improved library services – which could total £168,888
- An undisclosed financial contribution to health services on Canvey
- A undisclosed financial contribution towards bus service and infrastructure upgrades on Thorney Bay Road
- The provision of new youth facilities

However, concerns have been raised as the latest outline application submitted by Mr King does not specify exactly how many homes will be built.

Graham Bracci, of Holland Avenue, Canvey, said: “Why have the numbers been removed from this application, considering this is supposed to be a step forward from the original plans. I just can’t see how this application can come up for approval without specifying the number of homes.

“It makes it seem to the public he can build as many homes as he wants so long as more money is coming into the area.”
 

In a report, compiled by Castle Point Council planning officer Anne Harrison, it states: “The further work required following the resolution of the September 4 2012 committee has been undertaken and the statutory and local resident consultation has taken place.
“The details of the application are satisfactory or can be mitigated by the imposition of conditions and through a Section 106 agreement. I have taken all other matters raised by interested parties into consideration, but none are sufficient to outweigh the considerations that led to the recommendation of approval.”

The Echo contacted Mr King but did not receive a response.

A final decision on the proposal will be made at a development control meeting at the council offices in Kiln Road, Thundersley on February 5.

Comments (28)

3:38pm Thu 31 Jan 13

perini says...

So basically the people of Canvey will have to put up with crowded roads, crowded schools, and the council fatcats have nice tea and biscuits every meeting courtesy of Jeff. Seems like a good deal to me - NOT!
So basically the people of Canvey will have to put up with crowded roads, crowded schools, and the council fatcats have nice tea and biscuits every meeting courtesy of Jeff. Seems like a good deal to me - NOT! perini

3:43pm Thu 31 Jan 13

marshman says...

More importantly, how many drinks per house per member left in the tap down the club?
More importantly, how many drinks per house per member left in the tap down the club? marshman

4:20pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Cosmo Spring says...

will that two million be spent on infrastructure?
will that two million be spent on infrastructure? Cosmo Spring

4:51pm Thu 31 Jan 13

soul man says...

blackmail seems to spring to mind
blackmail seems to spring to mind soul man

4:57pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Cosmo Spring says...

Cosmo Spring wrote:
will that two million be spent on infrastructure?
maybe I should have read the first line of the report before jumping in up to my armpits.

I'll get me coat

Still I'll only believe it when I see it
[quote][p][bold]Cosmo Spring[/bold] wrote: will that two million be spent on infrastructure?[/p][/quote]maybe I should have read the first line of the report before jumping in up to my armpits. I'll get me coat Still I'll only believe it when I see it Cosmo Spring

5:22pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Life in a seaside town says...

Two million spent on infrasructure does not even represent a drop in the ocean. Just look at the cost of the new road schemes recently finished and still not finished as a guide. Access and signage at £400k will not be sufficient for the road cones alone. Whoever looks at or approves these figures need to enter the real world or at least be honest and say they do not know values or want this development at any cost.
Two million spent on infrasructure does not even represent a drop in the ocean. Just look at the cost of the new road schemes recently finished and still not finished as a guide. Access and signage at £400k will not be sufficient for the road cones alone. Whoever looks at or approves these figures need to enter the real world or at least be honest and say they do not know values or want this development at any cost. Life in a seaside town

5:24pm Thu 31 Jan 13

iknowbetter says...

Something is not right here, With no number of dwelllings on the planning app how can this be approved. They make it sound so inviting with claiming 2 miilion wil be spent on the infrastucture but 2 million wont even cover the cost for extending the road to no where which almost certainly will be the case, so the tax payer will be picking up the tab yet again.
Something is not right here, With no number of dwelllings on the planning app how can this be approved. They make it sound so inviting with claiming 2 miilion wil be spent on the infrastucture but 2 million wont even cover the cost for extending the road to no where which almost certainly will be the case, so the tax payer will be picking up the tab yet again. iknowbetter

5:44pm Thu 31 Jan 13

nicknows says...

If the planning permission for the houses is granted. Will the number of caravans on the site not be reduced?

Thus surely the number of people living on the site will not be greatly increased if at all so I fail to see why all these charges are being made.

The houses will be a far safer option for the area than the existing caravans. If that part of the Island were to flood unless people climb onto their roofs they will have to be evacuated whilst house dwellers will be able to go upstairs.

No the other hand perhaps the residents of Dale Farm should make a bid to buy a section of the land and remove the caravans now situated there and place their own ones there instead. After all replacing like for like would surely not require planning permission and in some respects the area would be vastly improved.
If the planning permission for the houses is granted. Will the number of caravans on the site not be reduced? Thus surely the number of people living on the site will not be greatly increased if at all so I fail to see why all these charges are being made. The houses will be a far safer option for the area than the existing caravans. If that part of the Island were to flood unless people climb onto their roofs they will have to be evacuated whilst house dwellers will be able to go upstairs. No the other hand perhaps the residents of Dale Farm should make a bid to buy a section of the land and remove the caravans now situated there and place their own ones there instead. After all replacing like for like would surely not require planning permission and in some respects the area would be vastly improved. nicknows

8:10pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Carnabackable says...

Canvey - ideal location for the new airport, it's off the mainland, aircraft fly off over the sea, reducing noise pollution all round.
Canvey - ideal location for the new airport, it's off the mainland, aircraft fly off over the sea, reducing noise pollution all round. Carnabackable

10:56pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Nebs says...

Forget the infastructure and give every household £3,000. You'd stand more chance of getting it through unopposed.
Forget the infastructure and give every household £3,000. You'd stand more chance of getting it through unopposed. Nebs

1:48am Fri 1 Feb 13

xenophobia says...

I think any amount of money spent of Canvey seems like a waste. Its the people that live there that need to change not the infrastructure. It would be like spending millions on Hackney nothing would ever improve long term.
I think any amount of money spent of Canvey seems like a waste. Its the people that live there that need to change not the infrastructure. It would be like spending millions on Hackney nothing would ever improve long term. xenophobia

9:37am Fri 1 Feb 13

AndyBSG says...

2 Million doesn't pay for anything nowadays when it comes to infrastructure and civil engineering.

Canvey's schools and GP surgeries are at capacity and it's roads are well above capacity.

I don't think you'll even come close to getting a new primary school, one or two new doctor surgeries and a viable third route off the Island for £20 million let alone £2 million!
2 Million doesn't pay for anything nowadays when it comes to infrastructure and civil engineering. Canvey's schools and GP surgeries are at capacity and it's roads are well above capacity. I don't think you'll even come close to getting a new primary school, one or two new doctor surgeries and a viable third route off the Island for £20 million let alone £2 million! AndyBSG

10:03am Fri 1 Feb 13

John T Pharro says...

And how much will the developers earn?
And how much will the developers earn? John T Pharro

10:33am Fri 1 Feb 13

InTheKnowOk says...

Something's not right here ! ... I reckon those that are in 'power' should be made to step down after a certain period of time, 'some' have been there way too long, in my honest opinion they have the upper hand on decisions that quite clearly are not in the best interests of the rest of us.
Something's not right here ! ... I reckon those that are in 'power' should be made to step down after a certain period of time, 'some' have been there way too long, in my honest opinion they have the upper hand on decisions that quite clearly are not in the best interests of the rest of us. InTheKnowOk

1:03pm Fri 1 Feb 13

G Man says...

Thorney Bay may not just affect Canvey Island. According to this Mainland sites may be affected because of these plans;
http://canveygb.word
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Thorney Bay may not just affect Canvey Island. According to this Mainland sites may be affected because of these plans; http://canveygb.word press.com/2013/01/28 /thorney-bay-proposa l-moves-on-apace-sho uld-this-concern-the -residents-at-jotman s-farm-and-daws-heat h/ G Man

4:16pm Fri 1 Feb 13

John T Pharro says...

G Man wrote:
Thorney Bay may not just affect Canvey Island. According to this Mainland sites may be affected because of these plans;
http://canveygb.word

press.com/2013/01/28

/thorney-bay-proposa

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uld-this-concern-the

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As so many residents of Canvey know, that is why we have the Councillors elected who vote the way they said they would.
Until the voters on the mainland wake up and stop voting in Councillors who persistently vote in favour of developers it will always be the same.
Look at who voted for the greenbelt building in Thundersley, overdevelopment at Canvey Supply and Thorney Bay the Tory Councillors.
Look who voted against all those developments the Canvey CIIP Councillors.
[quote][p][bold]G Man[/bold] wrote: Thorney Bay may not just affect Canvey Island. According to this Mainland sites may be affected because of these plans; http://canveygb.word press.com/2013/01/28 /thorney-bay-proposa l-moves-on-apace-sho uld-this-concern-the -residents-at-jotman s-farm-and-daws-heat h/[/p][/quote]As so many residents of Canvey know, that is why we have the Councillors elected who vote the way they said they would. Until the voters on the mainland wake up and stop voting in Councillors who persistently vote in favour of developers it will always be the same. Look at who voted for the greenbelt building in Thundersley, overdevelopment at Canvey Supply and Thorney Bay the Tory Councillors. Look who voted against all those developments the Canvey CIIP Councillors. John T Pharro

5:13pm Fri 1 Feb 13

upset says...

John T Pharro wrote:
G Man wrote:
Thorney Bay may not just affect Canvey Island. According to this Mainland sites may be affected because of these plans;
http://canveygb.word


press.com/2013/01/28


/thorney-bay-proposa


l-moves-on-apace-sho


uld-this-concern-the


-residents-at-jotman


s-farm-and-daws-heat


h/
As so many residents of Canvey know, that is why we have the Councillors elected who vote the way they said they would.
Until the voters on the mainland wake up and stop voting in Councillors who persistently vote in favour of developers it will always be the same.
Look at who voted for the greenbelt building in Thundersley, overdevelopment at Canvey Supply and Thorney Bay the Tory Councillors.
Look who voted against all those developments the Canvey CIIP Councillors.
Get a proper political opposition for the whole of the borough rather than a few ex Labour candidates on Canvey.
The leaders of CIIP will not launch on the main land in case they get elected.
They would then have to do something other than moan and pose for Echo photo's.
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]G Man[/bold] wrote: Thorney Bay may not just affect Canvey Island. According to this Mainland sites may be affected because of these plans; http://canveygb.word press.com/2013/01/28 /thorney-bay-proposa l-moves-on-apace-sho uld-this-concern-the -residents-at-jotman s-farm-and-daws-heat h/[/p][/quote]As so many residents of Canvey know, that is why we have the Councillors elected who vote the way they said they would. Until the voters on the mainland wake up and stop voting in Councillors who persistently vote in favour of developers it will always be the same. Look at who voted for the greenbelt building in Thundersley, overdevelopment at Canvey Supply and Thorney Bay the Tory Councillors. Look who voted against all those developments the Canvey CIIP Councillors.[/p][/quote]Get a proper political opposition for the whole of the borough rather than a few ex Labour candidates on Canvey. The leaders of CIIP will not launch on the main land in case they get elected. They would then have to do something other than moan and pose for Echo photo's. upset

5:23pm Fri 1 Feb 13

John T Pharro says...

upset wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
G Man wrote:
Thorney Bay may not just affect Canvey Island. According to this Mainland sites may be affected because of these plans;
http://canveygb.word



press.com/2013/01/28



/thorney-bay-proposa



l-moves-on-apace-sho



uld-this-concern-the



-residents-at-jotman



s-farm-and-daws-heat



h/
As so many residents of Canvey know, that is why we have the Councillors elected who vote the way they said they would.
Until the voters on the mainland wake up and stop voting in Councillors who persistently vote in favour of developers it will always be the same.
Look at who voted for the greenbelt building in Thundersley, overdevelopment at Canvey Supply and Thorney Bay the Tory Councillors.
Look who voted against all those developments the Canvey CIIP Councillors.
Get a proper political opposition for the whole of the borough rather than a few ex Labour candidates on Canvey.
The leaders of CIIP will not launch on the main land in case they get elected.
They would then have to do something other than moan and pose for Echo photo's.
The clue is in the name of the party CANVEY INDEPENDENT PARTY. So how can they stand on the mainland?The problem you have is that you refuse to accept that the mainland Tories, sometimes with the one Tory Councillor on Canvey Councillor Howard persistently vote against what they say they will do. It is no good saying the CIIP just moan they vote the way the residents want. That is not moaning it is reflecting the voters views. Unfortunate that you are in the minority that support the way the Tories vote, but as you constantly keep saying that is democracy.
[quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]G Man[/bold] wrote: Thorney Bay may not just affect Canvey Island. According to this Mainland sites may be affected because of these plans; http://canveygb.word press.com/2013/01/28 /thorney-bay-proposa l-moves-on-apace-sho uld-this-concern-the -residents-at-jotman s-farm-and-daws-heat h/[/p][/quote]As so many residents of Canvey know, that is why we have the Councillors elected who vote the way they said they would. Until the voters on the mainland wake up and stop voting in Councillors who persistently vote in favour of developers it will always be the same. Look at who voted for the greenbelt building in Thundersley, overdevelopment at Canvey Supply and Thorney Bay the Tory Councillors. Look who voted against all those developments the Canvey CIIP Councillors.[/p][/quote]Get a proper political opposition for the whole of the borough rather than a few ex Labour candidates on Canvey. The leaders of CIIP will not launch on the main land in case they get elected. They would then have to do something other than moan and pose for Echo photo's.[/p][/quote]The clue is in the name of the party CANVEY INDEPENDENT PARTY. So how can they stand on the mainland?The problem you have is that you refuse to accept that the mainland Tories, sometimes with the one Tory Councillor on Canvey Councillor Howard persistently vote against what they say they will do. It is no good saying the CIIP just moan they vote the way the residents want. That is not moaning it is reflecting the voters views. Unfortunate that you are in the minority that support the way the Tories vote, but as you constantly keep saying that is democracy. John T Pharro

7:18pm Fri 1 Feb 13

runwellian says...

Cosmo Spring wrote:
will that two million be spent on infrastructure?
You must be joking, that money is to ensure the planning application goes through!

I would have thought new roads off of the island were now a priority, it is a disaster waiting to happen and it will cost so many lives!
[quote][p][bold]Cosmo Spring[/bold] wrote: will that two million be spent on infrastructure?[/p][/quote]You must be joking, that money is to ensure the planning application goes through! I would have thought new roads off of the island were now a priority, it is a disaster waiting to happen and it will cost so many lives! runwellian

7:36pm Fri 1 Feb 13

Louisajo says...

Time after time the local councillors and the ancient chairman ignore the people who live in Castle Point and have to suffer the appalling plans that are passed willy-nilly by them.
The area is FULL of people, cars and housing!
The roads, health care facilities etc just can't take anymore. Travelling in the area is a nightmare in the rush hours. A new road won't make any difference at all.
Jotmans, Dawes Heath, Kiln Road..... Just more and more squashed in housing with inadequate facilities, and not enough parking, that the existing residents don't want and despite making their feeling heard they are ignored and ridden rough shod over.
The standard of housing - mostly flats - that are built in the Borough these days are on the whole unattractive and cheaply built.
Other areas are very picky about what is built and how, the aesthetics and quality taken into consideration as well as the needs of families and others. Green space is crucial to communities - but the council don't consider even that! When was the last park built here?
Shame the councillors in this Borough can't manage to stand up to their chair and it's about time he, and they, listened to the people of the area!
Time after time the local councillors and the ancient chairman ignore the people who live in Castle Point and have to suffer the appalling plans that are passed willy-nilly by them. The area is FULL of people, cars and housing! The roads, health care facilities etc just can't take anymore. Travelling in the area is a nightmare in the rush hours. A new road won't make any difference at all. Jotmans, Dawes Heath, Kiln Road..... Just more and more squashed in housing with inadequate facilities, and not enough parking, that the existing residents don't want and despite making their feeling heard they are ignored and ridden rough shod over. The standard of housing - mostly flats - that are built in the Borough these days are on the whole unattractive and cheaply built. Other areas are very picky about what is built and how, the aesthetics and quality taken into consideration as well as the needs of families and others. Green space is crucial to communities - but the council don't consider even that! When was the last park built here? Shame the councillors in this Borough can't manage to stand up to their chair and it's about time he, and they, listened to the people of the area! Louisajo

7:47pm Fri 1 Feb 13

John T Pharro says...

Louisajo wrote:
Time after time the local councillors and the ancient chairman ignore the people who live in Castle Point and have to suffer the appalling plans that are passed willy-nilly by them.
The area is FULL of people, cars and housing!
The roads, health care facilities etc just can't take anymore. Travelling in the area is a nightmare in the rush hours. A new road won't make any difference at all.
Jotmans, Dawes Heath, Kiln Road..... Just more and more squashed in housing with inadequate facilities, and not enough parking, that the existing residents don't want and despite making their feeling heard they are ignored and ridden rough shod over.
The standard of housing - mostly flats - that are built in the Borough these days are on the whole unattractive and cheaply built.
Other areas are very picky about what is built and how, the aesthetics and quality taken into consideration as well as the needs of families and others. Green space is crucial to communities - but the council don't consider even that! When was the last park built here?
Shame the councillors in this Borough can't manage to stand up to their chair and it's about time he, and they, listened to the people of the area!
Last paragraph not all Borough Councillors just the Tory Councillors check the way they have voted. The CIIP Councillors have voted against the developments it is the Tory Councillors that time and time again vote these things through. Fact, but however, as you can see from former posts some still will not believe it even when the records show otherwise.
[quote][p][bold]Louisajo[/bold] wrote: Time after time the local councillors and the ancient chairman ignore the people who live in Castle Point and have to suffer the appalling plans that are passed willy-nilly by them. The area is FULL of people, cars and housing! The roads, health care facilities etc just can't take anymore. Travelling in the area is a nightmare in the rush hours. A new road won't make any difference at all. Jotmans, Dawes Heath, Kiln Road..... Just more and more squashed in housing with inadequate facilities, and not enough parking, that the existing residents don't want and despite making their feeling heard they are ignored and ridden rough shod over. The standard of housing - mostly flats - that are built in the Borough these days are on the whole unattractive and cheaply built. Other areas are very picky about what is built and how, the aesthetics and quality taken into consideration as well as the needs of families and others. Green space is crucial to communities - but the council don't consider even that! When was the last park built here? Shame the councillors in this Borough can't manage to stand up to their chair and it's about time he, and they, listened to the people of the area![/p][/quote]Last paragraph not all Borough Councillors just the Tory Councillors check the way they have voted. The CIIP Councillors have voted against the developments it is the Tory Councillors that time and time again vote these things through. Fact, but however, as you can see from former posts some still will not believe it even when the records show otherwise. John T Pharro

10:45pm Fri 1 Feb 13

Nebs says...

Sell the council offices in Kiln Rd for development, and use the money to build a cheaper office on Canvey with plenty to spare. Then all the councillors from the mainland will learn about traffic coming on and off the island.
Sell the council offices in Kiln Rd for development, and use the money to build a cheaper office on Canvey with plenty to spare. Then all the councillors from the mainland will learn about traffic coming on and off the island. Nebs

4:13pm Sun 3 Feb 13

jolllyboy says...

Nice one Nebs. How about adding to this legal bribery a rubber dingy for every new house. Joking apart this is not a democracy is it - tories through and through. Like the south east as a whole we have too much building here now. When people have a caravan that is what they want to live in and where do they go.
When is your castle not your own - when any council wants it to build on and make a profit.
Nice one Nebs. How about adding to this legal bribery a rubber dingy for every new house. Joking apart this is not a democracy is it - tories through and through. Like the south east as a whole we have too much building here now. When people have a caravan that is what they want to live in and where do they go. When is your castle not your own - when any council wants it to build on and make a profit. jolllyboy

6:50pm Sun 3 Feb 13

upset says...

John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
G Man wrote:
Thorney Bay may not just affect Canvey Island. According to this Mainland sites may be affected because of these plans;
http://canveygb.word




press.com/2013/01/28




/thorney-bay-proposa




l-moves-on-apace-sho




uld-this-concern-the




-residents-at-jotman




s-farm-and-daws-heat




h/
As so many residents of Canvey know, that is why we have the Councillors elected who vote the way they said they would.
Until the voters on the mainland wake up and stop voting in Councillors who persistently vote in favour of developers it will always be the same.
Look at who voted for the greenbelt building in Thundersley, overdevelopment at Canvey Supply and Thorney Bay the Tory Councillors.
Look who voted against all those developments the Canvey CIIP Councillors.
Get a proper political opposition for the whole of the borough rather than a few ex Labour candidates on Canvey.
The leaders of CIIP will not launch on the main land in case they get elected.
They would then have to do something other than moan and pose for Echo photo's.
The clue is in the name of the party CANVEY INDEPENDENT PARTY. So how can they stand on the mainland?The problem you have is that you refuse to accept that the mainland Tories, sometimes with the one Tory Councillor on Canvey Councillor Howard persistently vote against what they say they will do. It is no good saying the CIIP just moan they vote the way the residents want. That is not moaning it is reflecting the voters views. Unfortunate that you are in the minority that support the way the Tories vote, but as you constantly keep saying that is democracy.
John you dont know if or how I voted, but I will never vote for any party who never have a chance of changing anything.
You say I'm in the minority but if those who vote for CIIP understood the reality, that they will never get control, the best they can hope for is the previous friends in the Labour party win on the mainland, and they will then play second fiddle to them.
Not much to look forward to.
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]G Man[/bold] wrote: Thorney Bay may not just affect Canvey Island. According to this Mainland sites may be affected because of these plans; http://canveygb.word press.com/2013/01/28 /thorney-bay-proposa l-moves-on-apace-sho uld-this-concern-the -residents-at-jotman s-farm-and-daws-heat h/[/p][/quote]As so many residents of Canvey know, that is why we have the Councillors elected who vote the way they said they would. Until the voters on the mainland wake up and stop voting in Councillors who persistently vote in favour of developers it will always be the same. Look at who voted for the greenbelt building in Thundersley, overdevelopment at Canvey Supply and Thorney Bay the Tory Councillors. Look who voted against all those developments the Canvey CIIP Councillors.[/p][/quote]Get a proper political opposition for the whole of the borough rather than a few ex Labour candidates on Canvey. The leaders of CIIP will not launch on the main land in case they get elected. They would then have to do something other than moan and pose for Echo photo's.[/p][/quote]The clue is in the name of the party CANVEY INDEPENDENT PARTY. So how can they stand on the mainland?The problem you have is that you refuse to accept that the mainland Tories, sometimes with the one Tory Councillor on Canvey Councillor Howard persistently vote against what they say they will do. It is no good saying the CIIP just moan they vote the way the residents want. That is not moaning it is reflecting the voters views. Unfortunate that you are in the minority that support the way the Tories vote, but as you constantly keep saying that is democracy.[/p][/quote]John you dont know if or how I voted, but I will never vote for any party who never have a chance of changing anything. You say I'm in the minority but if those who vote for CIIP understood the reality, that they will never get control, the best they can hope for is the previous friends in the Labour party win on the mainland, and they will then play second fiddle to them. Not much to look forward to. upset

6:56pm Sun 3 Feb 13

upset says...

John T Pharro wrote:
Louisajo wrote:
Time after time the local councillors and the ancient chairman ignore the people who live in Castle Point and have to suffer the appalling plans that are passed willy-nilly by them.
The area is FULL of people, cars and housing!
The roads, health care facilities etc just can't take anymore. Travelling in the area is a nightmare in the rush hours. A new road won't make any difference at all.
Jotmans, Dawes Heath, Kiln Road..... Just more and more squashed in housing with inadequate facilities, and not enough parking, that the existing residents don't want and despite making their feeling heard they are ignored and ridden rough shod over.
The standard of housing - mostly flats - that are built in the Borough these days are on the whole unattractive and cheaply built.
Other areas are very picky about what is built and how, the aesthetics and quality taken into consideration as well as the needs of families and others. Green space is crucial to communities - but the council don't consider even that! When was the last park built here?
Shame the councillors in this Borough can't manage to stand up to their chair and it's about time he, and they, listened to the people of the area!
Last paragraph not all Borough Councillors just the Tory Councillors check the way they have voted. The CIIP Councillors have voted against the developments it is the Tory Councillors that time and time again vote these things through. Fact, but however, as you can see from former posts some still will not believe it even when the records show otherwise.
Your comment John speaks volumes, a vote for CIIP makes no difference and makes no sense, as I said previously without a mainland branch.
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Louisajo[/bold] wrote: Time after time the local councillors and the ancient chairman ignore the people who live in Castle Point and have to suffer the appalling plans that are passed willy-nilly by them. The area is FULL of people, cars and housing! The roads, health care facilities etc just can't take anymore. Travelling in the area is a nightmare in the rush hours. A new road won't make any difference at all. Jotmans, Dawes Heath, Kiln Road..... Just more and more squashed in housing with inadequate facilities, and not enough parking, that the existing residents don't want and despite making their feeling heard they are ignored and ridden rough shod over. The standard of housing - mostly flats - that are built in the Borough these days are on the whole unattractive and cheaply built. Other areas are very picky about what is built and how, the aesthetics and quality taken into consideration as well as the needs of families and others. Green space is crucial to communities - but the council don't consider even that! When was the last park built here? Shame the councillors in this Borough can't manage to stand up to their chair and it's about time he, and they, listened to the people of the area![/p][/quote]Last paragraph not all Borough Councillors just the Tory Councillors check the way they have voted. The CIIP Councillors have voted against the developments it is the Tory Councillors that time and time again vote these things through. Fact, but however, as you can see from former posts some still will not believe it even when the records show otherwise.[/p][/quote]Your comment John speaks volumes, a vote for CIIP makes no difference and makes no sense, as I said previously without a mainland branch. upset

8:01pm Sun 3 Feb 13

John T Pharro says...

upset wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Louisajo wrote:
Time after time the local councillors and the ancient chairman ignore the people who live in Castle Point and have to suffer the appalling plans that are passed willy-nilly by them.
The area is FULL of people, cars and housing!
The roads, health care facilities etc just can't take anymore. Travelling in the area is a nightmare in the rush hours. A new road won't make any difference at all.
Jotmans, Dawes Heath, Kiln Road..... Just more and more squashed in housing with inadequate facilities, and not enough parking, that the existing residents don't want and despite making their feeling heard they are ignored and ridden rough shod over.
The standard of housing - mostly flats - that are built in the Borough these days are on the whole unattractive and cheaply built.
Other areas are very picky about what is built and how, the aesthetics and quality taken into consideration as well as the needs of families and others. Green space is crucial to communities - but the council don't consider even that! When was the last park built here?
Shame the councillors in this Borough can't manage to stand up to their chair and it's about time he, and they, listened to the people of the area!
Last paragraph not all Borough Councillors just the Tory Councillors check the way they have voted. The CIIP Councillors have voted against the developments it is the Tory Councillors that time and time again vote these things through. Fact, but however, as you can see from former posts some still will not believe it even when the records show otherwise.
Your comment John speaks volumes, a vote for CIIP makes no difference and makes no sense, as I said previously without a mainland branch.
Did the Tories vote for the developments I listed? Yes or No?
Did the CIIP vote against? Yes or No?
You make no sense.
More Tories equals more votes against what the residents want. Yes or No?
You are clutching at straws defending the Tory voting record.
[quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Louisajo[/bold] wrote: Time after time the local councillors and the ancient chairman ignore the people who live in Castle Point and have to suffer the appalling plans that are passed willy-nilly by them. The area is FULL of people, cars and housing! The roads, health care facilities etc just can't take anymore. Travelling in the area is a nightmare in the rush hours. A new road won't make any difference at all. Jotmans, Dawes Heath, Kiln Road..... Just more and more squashed in housing with inadequate facilities, and not enough parking, that the existing residents don't want and despite making their feeling heard they are ignored and ridden rough shod over. The standard of housing - mostly flats - that are built in the Borough these days are on the whole unattractive and cheaply built. Other areas are very picky about what is built and how, the aesthetics and quality taken into consideration as well as the needs of families and others. Green space is crucial to communities - but the council don't consider even that! When was the last park built here? Shame the councillors in this Borough can't manage to stand up to their chair and it's about time he, and they, listened to the people of the area![/p][/quote]Last paragraph not all Borough Councillors just the Tory Councillors check the way they have voted. The CIIP Councillors have voted against the developments it is the Tory Councillors that time and time again vote these things through. Fact, but however, as you can see from former posts some still will not believe it even when the records show otherwise.[/p][/quote]Your comment John speaks volumes, a vote for CIIP makes no difference and makes no sense, as I said previously without a mainland branch.[/p][/quote]Did the Tories vote for the developments I listed? Yes or No? Did the CIIP vote against? Yes or No? You make no sense. More Tories equals more votes against what the residents want. Yes or No? You are clutching at straws defending the Tory voting record. John T Pharro

6:40pm Mon 4 Feb 13

upset says...

John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Louisajo wrote:
Time after time the local councillors and the ancient chairman ignore the people who live in Castle Point and have to suffer the appalling plans that are passed willy-nilly by them.
The area is FULL of people, cars and housing!
The roads, health care facilities etc just can't take anymore. Travelling in the area is a nightmare in the rush hours. A new road won't make any difference at all.
Jotmans, Dawes Heath, Kiln Road..... Just more and more squashed in housing with inadequate facilities, and not enough parking, that the existing residents don't want and despite making their feeling heard they are ignored and ridden rough shod over.
The standard of housing - mostly flats - that are built in the Borough these days are on the whole unattractive and cheaply built.
Other areas are very picky about what is built and how, the aesthetics and quality taken into consideration as well as the needs of families and others. Green space is crucial to communities - but the council don't consider even that! When was the last park built here?
Shame the councillors in this Borough can't manage to stand up to their chair and it's about time he, and they, listened to the people of the area!
Last paragraph not all Borough Councillors just the Tory Councillors check the way they have voted. The CIIP Councillors have voted against the developments it is the Tory Councillors that time and time again vote these things through. Fact, but however, as you can see from former posts some still will not believe it even when the records show otherwise.
Your comment John speaks volumes, a vote for CIIP makes no difference and makes no sense, as I said previously without a mainland branch.
Did the Tories vote for the developments I listed? Yes or No?
Did the CIIP vote against? Yes or No?
You make no sense.
More Tories equals more votes against what the residents want. Yes or No?
You are clutching at straws defending the Tory voting record.
YES, YES, and again you are correct, more people voted for Tory's in Castle Point that's why they are the ruling party.
As I have said before a vote for CIIP without a coalition with a main land party is a vote wasted, YES or NO John?
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Louisajo[/bold] wrote: Time after time the local councillors and the ancient chairman ignore the people who live in Castle Point and have to suffer the appalling plans that are passed willy-nilly by them. The area is FULL of people, cars and housing! The roads, health care facilities etc just can't take anymore. Travelling in the area is a nightmare in the rush hours. A new road won't make any difference at all. Jotmans, Dawes Heath, Kiln Road..... Just more and more squashed in housing with inadequate facilities, and not enough parking, that the existing residents don't want and despite making their feeling heard they are ignored and ridden rough shod over. The standard of housing - mostly flats - that are built in the Borough these days are on the whole unattractive and cheaply built. Other areas are very picky about what is built and how, the aesthetics and quality taken into consideration as well as the needs of families and others. Green space is crucial to communities - but the council don't consider even that! When was the last park built here? Shame the councillors in this Borough can't manage to stand up to their chair and it's about time he, and they, listened to the people of the area![/p][/quote]Last paragraph not all Borough Councillors just the Tory Councillors check the way they have voted. The CIIP Councillors have voted against the developments it is the Tory Councillors that time and time again vote these things through. Fact, but however, as you can see from former posts some still will not believe it even when the records show otherwise.[/p][/quote]Your comment John speaks volumes, a vote for CIIP makes no difference and makes no sense, as I said previously without a mainland branch.[/p][/quote]Did the Tories vote for the developments I listed? Yes or No? Did the CIIP vote against? Yes or No? You make no sense. More Tories equals more votes against what the residents want. Yes or No? You are clutching at straws defending the Tory voting record.[/p][/quote]YES, YES, and again you are correct, more people voted for Tory's in Castle Point that's why they are the ruling party. As I have said before a vote for CIIP without a coalition with a main land party is a vote wasted, YES or NO John? upset

11:12pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Whatthe* says...

John T Pharro wrote:
G Man wrote:
Thorney Bay may not just affect Canvey Island. According to this Mainland sites may be affected because of these plans;
http://canveygb.word


press.com/2013/01/28


/thorney-bay-proposa


l-moves-on-apace-sho


uld-this-concern-the


-residents-at-jotman


s-farm-and-daws-heat


h/
As so many residents of Canvey know, that is why we have the Councillors elected who vote the way they said they would.
Until the voters on the mainland wake up and stop voting in Councillors who persistently vote in favour of developers it will always be the same.
Look at who voted for the greenbelt building in Thundersley, overdevelopment at Canvey Supply and Thorney Bay the Tory Councillors.
Look who voted against all those developments the Canvey CIIP Councillors.
Do you not know what is going on in Castle Point ?

Why the new local plan is required ?
what happens if we don't have one and soon ?
what happens if CIIP get their way voting with out conscience under instruction from their leader to not vote for any greenbelt development?

What could happen is Castle Point could loose all development control rights to an Inspector and any of Castle Points Greenbelt could be lost to any developer interested in turning Castle Points greenbelt in to a development and they are aware of this situation, so this attitude of CIIP Cllrs for political gain in fact is a very dangerous game and they are not telling the truth to us residents, they are avoiding the hard decisions for political gain.


The sites already passed where allocated when Canvey Cllrs who some are still about where in charge .
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]G Man[/bold] wrote: Thorney Bay may not just affect Canvey Island. According to this Mainland sites may be affected because of these plans; http://canveygb.word press.com/2013/01/28 /thorney-bay-proposa l-moves-on-apace-sho uld-this-concern-the -residents-at-jotman s-farm-and-daws-heat h/[/p][/quote]As so many residents of Canvey know, that is why we have the Councillors elected who vote the way they said they would. Until the voters on the mainland wake up and stop voting in Councillors who persistently vote in favour of developers it will always be the same. Look at who voted for the greenbelt building in Thundersley, overdevelopment at Canvey Supply and Thorney Bay the Tory Councillors. Look who voted against all those developments the Canvey CIIP Councillors.[/p][/quote]Do you not know what is going on in Castle Point ? Why the new local plan is required ? what happens if we don't have one and soon ? what happens if CIIP get their way voting with out conscience under instruction from their leader to not vote for any greenbelt development? What could happen is Castle Point could loose all development control rights to an Inspector and any of Castle Points Greenbelt could be lost to any developer interested in turning Castle Points greenbelt in to a development and they are aware of this situation, so this attitude of CIIP Cllrs for political gain in fact is a very dangerous game and they are not telling the truth to us residents, they are avoiding the hard decisions for political gain. The sites already passed where allocated when Canvey Cllrs who some are still about where in charge . Whatthe*

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