Tailgaters and inconsiderate drivers targeted under police crackdown

10:05am Wednesday 6th February 2013 in Local News By Gina Marden

Tailgaters targeted under police crackdown Tailgaters targeted under police crackdown

TAILGATERS, impatient drivers who undertake or overtake in dangerous circumstances, will also be targeted under a new police crackdown.

Codenamed Operation Safeway, the crackdown will see bullying drivers who put innocent lives at risk targeted.

The operation comes amid growing public concern about poor driving standards that have led to fears for the safety of all road users.

Police will be using cars and motorbikes fitted with video cameras to ensure that offenders are dealt with quickly and efficiently without officers spending time in court.

Comments (66)

10:16am Wed 6 Feb 13

perini says...

I'd be more appreciative of them clamping down on mobile phone users - but it's a start!
I'd be more appreciative of them clamping down on mobile phone users - but it's a start! perini

10:18am Wed 6 Feb 13

Russ13 says...

This can't happen soon enough!!!

Not after I witnessed the driver of a Nissan X-trail turn right from the left hand lane of a roundabout, weave/undertake traffic along the A127 whilst on his phone andthen having a coming together with another car near progress road.

The same moron ended up behind me on the way home and on the same roundabout he went right from the left hand lane, he went left from the right hand lane.

Think I'd better take note of his reg if/when I see him again.....
This can't happen soon enough!!! Not after I witnessed the driver of a Nissan X-trail turn right from the left hand lane of a roundabout, weave/undertake traffic along the A127 whilst on his phone andthen having a coming together with another car near progress road. The same moron ended up behind me on the way home and on the same roundabout he went right from the left hand lane, he went left from the right hand lane. Think I'd better take note of his reg if/when I see him again..... Russ13

11:02am Wed 6 Feb 13

mrjames1972 says...

This is good news there's nothing worse
Then some bumpy sitting on my bumper when I'm going
Down the motorway it's dangerous and stupid
No excuse don't doit
This is good news there's nothing worse Then some bumpy sitting on my bumper when I'm going Down the motorway it's dangerous and stupid No excuse don't doit mrjames1972

11:03am Wed 6 Feb 13

heartbeat says...

perini wrote:
I'd be more appreciative of them clamping down on mobile phone users - but it's a start!
Great, I really hope they get heavy on these bullies. I am often driven in a car with a "black box" which massively reduced the cost of insurance (to less than half). The black box measures speed being driven at, and the overall picture (not the odd inadvertent mile or two over the limit) is what the insurance company based the renewal on. As the driver is a law-abiding citizen the renewal halved the premium yet again so the policy now costs a quarter of original quotes! The main problem for the driver is these road bullies - despite the speed limit being 30, 40 or even 20 in various areas around town there are some roads where almost invariably a tailgater will sit right up behind trying to make them go faster (and break the law in the process). The police really need to clamp down on this so much!! And I agree about mobile phones, which are obviously so dangerous to use while driving. I would say on any ten minute journey across town a driver is likely to encounter at least one person completely transfixed by the phone call they are on. Again, where is the clamp down?? We keep hearing about it but I don't see any evidence, just blatant flouting of the law, day in day out.
[quote][p][bold]perini[/bold] wrote: I'd be more appreciative of them clamping down on mobile phone users - but it's a start![/p][/quote]Great, I really hope they get heavy on these bullies. I am often driven in a car with a "black box" which massively reduced the cost of insurance (to less than half). The black box measures speed being driven at, and the overall picture (not the odd inadvertent mile or two over the limit) is what the insurance company based the renewal on. As the driver is a law-abiding citizen the renewal halved the premium yet again so the policy now costs a quarter of original quotes! The main problem for the driver is these road bullies - despite the speed limit being 30, 40 or even 20 in various areas around town there are some roads where almost invariably a tailgater will sit right up behind trying to make them go faster (and break the law in the process). The police really need to clamp down on this so much!! And I agree about mobile phones, which are obviously so dangerous to use while driving. I would say on any ten minute journey across town a driver is likely to encounter at least one person completely transfixed by the phone call they are on. Again, where is the clamp down?? We keep hearing about it but I don't see any evidence, just blatant flouting of the law, day in day out. heartbeat

11:10am Wed 6 Feb 13

Cosmo Spring says...

perini wrote:
I'd be more appreciative of them clamping down on mobile phone users - but it's a start!
hear hear!
[quote][p][bold]perini[/bold] wrote: I'd be more appreciative of them clamping down on mobile phone users - but it's a start![/p][/quote]hear hear! Cosmo Spring

11:15am Wed 6 Feb 13

megamite says...

yes about time and instead of taking money off of responsible and safe drivers take it off these selfish morons. I get so angry and sick when a big 4 x 4 tailgates behind us with my two young children in the back, if it was to go into the back of us they would get the full pelt of it. Not only do they tailgate they but on their full beams to blind my partner when he is driving, I am rather a placid person but if this happens again I cant be held responsible for my actions!
yes about time and instead of taking money off of responsible and safe drivers take it off these selfish morons. I get so angry and sick when a big 4 x 4 tailgates behind us with my two young children in the back, if it was to go into the back of us they would get the full pelt of it. Not only do they tailgate they but on their full beams to blind my partner when he is driving, I am rather a placid person but if this happens again I cant be held responsible for my actions! megamite

11:25am Wed 6 Feb 13

Nebs says...

Just slow down to a speed where the car behind you can stop in time. Eventually they go past. Better to have them in front of you where they are easily seen.
Just slow down to a speed where the car behind you can stop in time. Eventually they go past. Better to have them in front of you where they are easily seen. Nebs

11:41am Wed 6 Feb 13

Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd says...

Motorcyclists are the number one culprits of undertaking bar none.
Just try to keep up with a motorcyclist on any dual carraigeway and you will witness more undertakes than overtakes guarenteed.
Morning and evening rush-hour on the A127 each day is unbelievable, bikers are a law unto themselves as the average speed camera's are forward facing and the bikers know this.
Motorcyclists are the number one culprits of undertaking bar none. Just try to keep up with a motorcyclist on any dual carraigeway and you will witness more undertakes than overtakes guarenteed. Morning and evening rush-hour on the A127 each day is unbelievable, bikers are a law unto themselves as the average speed camera's are forward facing and the bikers know this. Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd

12:04pm Wed 6 Feb 13

Basildondude says...

I do hate it when your on the A127 doing 50 Mph in the 50 zone and someone does this, its the audi and merc drivers the most.
I do hate it when your on the A127 doing 50 Mph in the 50 zone and someone does this, its the audi and merc drivers the most. Basildondude

12:34pm Wed 6 Feb 13

A Pedant says...

Sir Peter - a simple method to avoid being undertaken which you may want to try - STICK TO THE INSIDE LANE!!! If you drive in the correct lane, then you won't be undertaken. I have losty count of the number of times I've been stuck on the 127 behind some idiot who feels it is his god-given right to stay in the right hand lane despite the other lane being free. And as for the new secton of M25, all that has done is push everyone into lanes 3-4 rather than 2-3.
Sir Peter - a simple method to avoid being undertaken which you may want to try - STICK TO THE INSIDE LANE!!! If you drive in the correct lane, then you won't be undertaken. I have losty count of the number of times I've been stuck on the 127 behind some idiot who feels it is his god-given right to stay in the right hand lane despite the other lane being free. And as for the new secton of M25, all that has done is push everyone into lanes 3-4 rather than 2-3. A Pedant

1:15pm Wed 6 Feb 13

SOSHQ says...

A Pedant wrote:
Sir Peter - a simple method to avoid being undertaken which you may want to try - STICK TO THE INSIDE LANE!!! If you drive in the correct lane, then you won't be undertaken. I have losty count of the number of times I've been stuck on the 127 behind some idiot who feels it is his god-given right to stay in the right hand lane despite the other lane being free. And as for the new secton of M25, all that has done is push everyone into lanes 3-4 rather than 2-3.
Spot on
[quote][p][bold]A Pedant[/bold] wrote: Sir Peter - a simple method to avoid being undertaken which you may want to try - STICK TO THE INSIDE LANE!!! If you drive in the correct lane, then you won't be undertaken. I have losty count of the number of times I've been stuck on the 127 behind some idiot who feels it is his god-given right to stay in the right hand lane despite the other lane being free. And as for the new secton of M25, all that has done is push everyone into lanes 3-4 rather than 2-3.[/p][/quote]Spot on SOSHQ

1:17pm Wed 6 Feb 13

Bigen says...

Or maybe take a look at drivers over 60 most of whom have no road sense and are totally oblivious to what is goin around them! Especially on motorways and a roads, sitting in the left lane doing 50 mph giving hgv's no choice but to overtake! There needs to me a speed min and max between 60-70 mph obv when conditions permit, this would leave the left lane clear for hgvs to keep to their limit of 55mph and not having to clog up the fast lane because some oap has no idea how to drive !
Or maybe take a look at drivers over 60 most of whom have no road sense and are totally oblivious to what is goin around them! Especially on motorways and a roads, sitting in the left lane doing 50 mph giving hgv's no choice but to overtake! There needs to me a speed min and max between 60-70 mph obv when conditions permit, this would leave the left lane clear for hgvs to keep to their limit of 55mph and not having to clog up the fast lane because some oap has no idea how to drive ! Bigen

1:23pm Wed 6 Feb 13

Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd says...

A Pedant wrote:
Sir Peter - a simple method to avoid being undertaken which you may want to try - STICK TO THE INSIDE LANE!!! If you drive in the correct lane, then you won't be undertaken. I have losty count of the number of times I've been stuck on the 127 behind some idiot who feels it is his god-given right to stay in the right hand lane despite the other lane being free. And as for the new secton of M25, all that has done is push everyone into lanes 3-4 rather than 2-3.
Pick your toys up and put your dummy back in!
Dont think i mentioned anywhere in my comment that i drive only in the outside lane, you mustve misread my opinions??
And if the speed limit is 50, why cant I do 50 in the outside lane?...
Oh thats right there's always idiotic bikers wanting to do 90 and weave dangerously in and out of traffic!
Obviously not all bikers are selfish and ignore the rules, but obviously youre one of them that does if you get all riled up that easily!
Cant think of the last time i overtook a biker, they always seem to be going as fast as possible (even if it means weaving, undertaking, shooting of from the traffic lights as if its Santo Pod 1/4 mile!)its as if they'll break the speed limit at any given opportunity! (ITS CALLED A SPEED LIMIT FOR A REASON)
[quote][p][bold]A Pedant[/bold] wrote: Sir Peter - a simple method to avoid being undertaken which you may want to try - STICK TO THE INSIDE LANE!!! If you drive in the correct lane, then you won't be undertaken. I have losty count of the number of times I've been stuck on the 127 behind some idiot who feels it is his god-given right to stay in the right hand lane despite the other lane being free. And as for the new secton of M25, all that has done is push everyone into lanes 3-4 rather than 2-3.[/p][/quote]Pick your toys up and put your dummy back in! Dont think i mentioned anywhere in my comment that i drive only in the outside lane, you mustve misread my opinions?? And if the speed limit is 50, why cant I do 50 in the outside lane?... Oh thats right there's always idiotic bikers wanting to do 90 and weave dangerously in and out of traffic! Obviously not all bikers are selfish and ignore the rules, but obviously youre one of them that does if you get all riled up that easily! Cant think of the last time i overtook a biker, they always seem to be going as fast as possible (even if it means weaving, undertaking, shooting of from the traffic lights as if its Santo Pod 1/4 mile!)its as if they'll break the speed limit at any given opportunity! (ITS CALLED A SPEED LIMIT FOR A REASON) Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd

1:31pm Wed 6 Feb 13

Ironman says...

Yep, couldn't agree more with all being said. I would also include those that insist on driving in the middle lane (or lane 2/3 on the M25 when lane 1 is virtually empty. Those that stick to the rules then have to swerve out and then back over to the inside lane to avoid them (I can identify most of them as that would either be sexist or racist!).

All should be aware that all lanes except the inside are for over taking only with an immediate return to the inside as soon as possible.

Would the lane hoggers like to comment and justify their selfish behaviour on this forum????

From a remarkably competent 67 yr old who tries to stick to the rules and speed limits.
Yep, couldn't agree more with all being said. I would also include those that insist on driving in the middle lane (or lane 2/3 on the M25 when lane 1 is virtually empty. Those that stick to the rules then have to swerve out and then back over to the inside lane to avoid them (I can identify most of them as that would either be sexist or racist!). All should be aware that all lanes except the inside are for over taking only with an immediate return to the inside as soon as possible. Would the lane hoggers like to comment and justify their selfish behaviour on this forum???? From a remarkably competent 67 yr old who tries to stick to the rules and speed limits. Ironman

1:59pm Wed 6 Feb 13

essex73 says...

Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd wrote:
A Pedant wrote: Sir Peter - a simple method to avoid being undertaken which you may want to try - STICK TO THE INSIDE LANE!!! If you drive in the correct lane, then you won't be undertaken. I have losty count of the number of times I've been stuck on the 127 behind some idiot who feels it is his god-given right to stay in the right hand lane despite the other lane being free. And as for the new secton of M25, all that has done is push everyone into lanes 3-4 rather than 2-3.
Pick your toys up and put your dummy back in! Dont think i mentioned anywhere in my comment that i drive only in the outside lane, you mustve misread my opinions?? And if the speed limit is 50, why cant I do 50 in the outside lane?... Oh thats right there's always idiotic bikers wanting to do 90 and weave dangerously in and out of traffic! Obviously not all bikers are selfish and ignore the rules, but obviously youre one of them that does if you get all riled up that easily! Cant think of the last time i overtook a biker, they always seem to be going as fast as possible (even if it means weaving, undertaking, shooting of from the traffic lights as if its Santo Pod 1/4 mile!)its as if they'll break the speed limit at any given opportunity! (ITS CALLED A SPEED LIMIT FOR A REASON)
Why cant you do 50 in the outside lane?...
Article 264 in the Highway Code may help here:

You should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is clear. If you are overtaking a number of slower-moving vehicles, you should return to the left-hand lane as soon as you are safely past. Slow-moving or speed-restricted vehicles should always remain in the left-hand lane of the carriageway unless overtaking. You MUST NOT drive on the hard shoulder except in an emergency or if directed to do so by the police, HA traffic officers in uniform or by signs.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Pedant[/bold] wrote: Sir Peter - a simple method to avoid being undertaken which you may want to try - STICK TO THE INSIDE LANE!!! If you drive in the correct lane, then you won't be undertaken. I have losty count of the number of times I've been stuck on the 127 behind some idiot who feels it is his god-given right to stay in the right hand lane despite the other lane being free. And as for the new secton of M25, all that has done is push everyone into lanes 3-4 rather than 2-3.[/p][/quote]Pick your toys up and put your dummy back in! Dont think i mentioned anywhere in my comment that i drive only in the outside lane, you mustve misread my opinions?? And if the speed limit is 50, why cant I do 50 in the outside lane?... Oh thats right there's always idiotic bikers wanting to do 90 and weave dangerously in and out of traffic! Obviously not all bikers are selfish and ignore the rules, but obviously youre one of them that does if you get all riled up that easily! Cant think of the last time i overtook a biker, they always seem to be going as fast as possible (even if it means weaving, undertaking, shooting of from the traffic lights as if its Santo Pod 1/4 mile!)its as if they'll break the speed limit at any given opportunity! (ITS CALLED A SPEED LIMIT FOR A REASON)[/p][/quote]Why cant you do 50 in the outside lane?... Article 264 in the Highway Code may help here: You should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is clear. If you are overtaking a number of slower-moving vehicles, you should return to the left-hand lane as soon as you are safely past. Slow-moving or speed-restricted vehicles should always remain in the left-hand lane of the carriageway unless overtaking. You MUST NOT drive on the hard shoulder except in an emergency or if directed to do so by the police, HA traffic officers in uniform or by signs. essex73

2:02pm Wed 6 Feb 13

A Pedant says...

Actually Sir Pointless, I have never ridden a motorbike in my life. I do, however, acknowledge your point that you didn't state which lane you drive in but, apart from that, stand by everything else in my reply. I shall now put my toys back.
Actually Sir Pointless, I have never ridden a motorbike in my life. I do, however, acknowledge your point that you didn't state which lane you drive in but, apart from that, stand by everything else in my reply. I shall now put my toys back. A Pedant

2:05pm Wed 6 Feb 13

Carnabackable says...

Double red brake lights, see 'em back off
Double red brake lights, see 'em back off Carnabackable

2:52pm Wed 6 Feb 13

andyh says...

Ironman wrote:
Yep, couldn't agree more with all being said. I would also include those that insist on driving in the middle lane (or lane 2/3 on the M25 when lane 1 is virtually empty. Those that stick to the rules then have to swerve out and then back over to the inside lane to avoid them (I can identify most of them as that would either be sexist or racist!).

All should be aware that all lanes except the inside are for over taking only with an immediate return to the inside as soon as possible.

Would the lane hoggers like to comment and justify their selfish behaviour on this forum????

From a remarkably competent 67 yr old who tries to stick to the rules and speed limits.
With those comments at first I thought you were one of those who do what I call "the IAM shuffle" but then I saw you used the word "swerve". A good driver should never have to swerve as to do so indicates a failure to observe the road conditions and plan accordingly (yes, amd that does include allowing for idiots).
Changing lanes is one of the most dangerous manoeuvers on any road, even - no especially - a motorway. Too many "advanced drivers" over emphasise the "use the leftmost lane" rule by moving into the left lane even if they will be moving out again in 10 seconds … after all, it gives them another opportunity to show off "the method" while increasing tyre wear and fuel consumption. ((and they are probably also taking almost full advantage of the ACPO guideline for prosecuting speeders by going at 10% + 2mph above the limit even after havibng allowed for the innaccuracy of their car's speedo - they've checked that against GPS))
If the road is heavily loaded there is no reason not to stay in whatever lane is moving at your preferred speed; if it is lightly loaded then you are not causing an obstruction as long as there is a clear lane to your right (or you are using your mirror correctly and get out of the way of any speeding or emergency vehicles).
[quote][p][bold]Ironman[/bold] wrote: Yep, couldn't agree more with all being said. I would also include those that insist on driving in the middle lane (or lane 2/3 on the M25 when lane 1 is virtually empty. Those that stick to the rules then have to swerve out and then back over to the inside lane to avoid them (I can identify most of them as that would either be sexist or racist!). All should be aware that all lanes except the inside are for over taking only with an immediate return to the inside as soon as possible. Would the lane hoggers like to comment and justify their selfish behaviour on this forum???? From a remarkably competent 67 yr old who tries to stick to the rules and speed limits.[/p][/quote]With those comments at first I thought you were one of those who do what I call "the IAM shuffle" but then I saw you used the word "swerve". A good driver should never have to swerve as to do so indicates a failure to observe the road conditions and plan accordingly (yes, amd that does include allowing for idiots). Changing lanes is one of the most dangerous manoeuvers on any road, even - no especially - a motorway. Too many "advanced drivers" over emphasise the "use the leftmost lane" rule by moving into the left lane even if they will be moving out again in 10 seconds … after all, it gives them another opportunity to show off "the method" while increasing tyre wear and fuel consumption. ((and they are probably also taking almost full advantage of the ACPO guideline for prosecuting speeders by going at 10% + 2mph above the limit even after havibng allowed for the innaccuracy of their car's speedo - they've checked that against GPS)) If the road is heavily loaded there is no reason not to stay in whatever lane is moving at your preferred speed; if it is lightly loaded then you are not causing an obstruction as long as there is a clear lane to your right (or you are using your mirror correctly and get out of the way of any speeding or emergency vehicles). andyh

3:00pm Wed 6 Feb 13

A Pedant says...

"If the road is heavily loaded there is no reason not to stay in whatever lane is moving at your preferred speed; if it is lightly loaded then you are not causing an obstruction as long as there is a clear lane to your right (or you are using your mirror correctly and get out of the way of any speeding or emergency vehicles)."

However, if everyone was driving in the correct lane then you could leave more than 1 clear lane, whcih can qickly get blocked up by Mr 1.5mph faster than the car I am overtaking and then jus sit there afterwards...

Not sure where you are getting your info from but the good old Highway Code does say you should be driving in the leftmost available lane. Why i it acceptable just to sit in lane 3 if lanes 1 and 2 are clear?
"If the road is heavily loaded there is no reason not to stay in whatever lane is moving at your preferred speed; if it is lightly loaded then you are not causing an obstruction as long as there is a clear lane to your right (or you are using your mirror correctly and get out of the way of any speeding or emergency vehicles)." However, if everyone was driving in the correct lane then you could leave more than 1 clear lane, whcih can qickly get blocked up by Mr 1.5mph faster than the car I am overtaking and then jus sit there afterwards... Not sure where you are getting your info from but the good old Highway Code does say you should be driving in the leftmost available lane. Why i it acceptable just to sit in lane 3 if lanes 1 and 2 are clear? A Pedant

3:23pm Wed 6 Feb 13

A Pedant says...

and why were half the keys on my keyboard not working last time either...
and why were half the keys on my keyboard not working last time either... A Pedant

4:22pm Wed 6 Feb 13

shoebury52 says...

This is a good idea although would have to say some of the drivers for Essex police are hardly the best. I followed a female police officer from Basildon to southend. Her aggressive approach to driving fast up behind someone then sitting close to them till they moved over then sped along again to the next car.

Add onto this no lane control lane 2 the whole time. Lack of indicators when needed. She was not responding to an emergency as I pulled up next to her at progress road lights and watched her singing along and tapping on the steering wheel to her music.

A lot of the police vehicles in the borough must have dodgy speedometers cos none of them seem to stick to the speed limit. There driving should be above reproach is all I am saying. Think that is the word I meant
This is a good idea although would have to say some of the drivers for Essex police are hardly the best. I followed a female police officer from Basildon to southend. Her aggressive approach to driving fast up behind someone then sitting close to them till they moved over then sped along again to the next car. Add onto this no lane control lane 2 the whole time. Lack of indicators when needed. She was not responding to an emergency as I pulled up next to her at progress road lights and watched her singing along and tapping on the steering wheel to her music. A lot of the police vehicles in the borough must have dodgy speedometers cos none of them seem to stick to the speed limit. There driving should be above reproach is all I am saying. Think that is the word I meant shoebury52

4:25pm Wed 6 Feb 13

Biker One says...

Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd wrote:
Motorcyclists are the number one culprits of undertaking bar none. Just try to keep up with a motorcyclist on any dual carraigeway and you will witness more undertakes than overtakes guarenteed. Morning and evening rush-hour on the A127 each day is unbelievable, bikers are a law unto themselves as the average speed camera's are forward facing and the bikers know this.
I don't see motorcyclists mentioned?
.
This is what they're after,
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=YyNpcJ2mq
Cg
Try winding your neck in or get back in your pram!!
[quote][p][bold]Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd[/bold] wrote: Motorcyclists are the number one culprits of undertaking bar none. Just try to keep up with a motorcyclist on any dual carraigeway and you will witness more undertakes than overtakes guarenteed. Morning and evening rush-hour on the A127 each day is unbelievable, bikers are a law unto themselves as the average speed camera's are forward facing and the bikers know this.[/p][/quote]I don't see motorcyclists mentioned? . This is what they're after, http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=YyNpcJ2mq Cg Try winding your neck in or get back in your pram!! Biker One

4:50pm Wed 6 Feb 13

firedog says...

Bigen wrote:
Or maybe take a look at drivers over 60 most of whom have no road sense and are totally oblivious to what is goin around them! Especially on motorways and a roads, sitting in the left lane doing 50 mph giving hgv's no choice but to overtake! There needs to me a speed min and max between 60-70 mph obv when conditions permit, this would leave the left lane clear for hgvs to keep to their limit of 55mph and not having to clog up the fast lane because some oap has no idea how to drive !
Your chosen forum name oviously does not refer to your brain size.
[quote][p][bold]Bigen[/bold] wrote: Or maybe take a look at drivers over 60 most of whom have no road sense and are totally oblivious to what is goin around them! Especially on motorways and a roads, sitting in the left lane doing 50 mph giving hgv's no choice but to overtake! There needs to me a speed min and max between 60-70 mph obv when conditions permit, this would leave the left lane clear for hgvs to keep to their limit of 55mph and not having to clog up the fast lane because some oap has no idea how to drive ![/p][/quote]Your chosen forum name oviously does not refer to your brain size. firedog

4:59pm Wed 6 Feb 13

saddo99 says...

Whilst I am sure this is a commendable enterprise and hate tailgaters I would only ask the question," When do you see a police car in Southend"? I have never seen an Interceptor car except on T.V. and when the series went north so did the cars. If they really want to catch bad drivers they could sit on Royal Artillery Way and catch the idiots who tailgate you while you are doing the proper speed limit and then pull out after the speed camera only to cut in on you and slam on their brakes as they approach the roundabout heading towards Shoebury. They then sit in Bournes Green Road going exactly the same speed as you! Time for my medication.
Whilst I am sure this is a commendable enterprise and hate tailgaters I would only ask the question," When do you see a police car in Southend"? I have never seen an Interceptor car except on T.V. and when the series went north so did the cars. If they really want to catch bad drivers they could sit on Royal Artillery Way and catch the idiots who tailgate you while you are doing the proper speed limit and then pull out after the speed camera only to cut in on you and slam on their brakes as they approach the roundabout heading towards Shoebury. They then sit in Bournes Green Road going exactly the same speed as you! Time for my medication. saddo99

5:06pm Wed 6 Feb 13

GentleGiant says...

Bigen wrote:
Or maybe take a look at drivers over 60 most of whom have no road sense and are totally oblivious to what is goin around them! Especially on motorways and a roads, sitting in the left lane doing 50 mph giving hgv's no choice but to overtake! There needs to me a speed min and max between 60-70 mph obv when conditions permit, this would leave the left lane clear for hgvs to keep to their limit of 55mph and not having to clog up the fast lane because some oap has no idea how to drive !
It is a speed 'limit' - not a minimum - nothing wrong with doing 50mph in the inside lane of a motorway. I generally drive at between 55 and 60mph to conserve fuel.

If lorries wish to overtake me, then fine - I usually pass them again on hills - I have my car set to cruise control so will maintain the same speed where possible on motorways.

Only a fool and someone who loves to throw money away thinks that everyone should be doing 60-70 MPH

The police should start with the idiots riding motorbikes - who are probably related to those driving white vans!

The motorbike riders think it is okay and legal to create a third lane on a dual carriageway. Sadly the police turn a blind eye to these idiots who undertake and ignore the speed limit.
[quote][p][bold]Bigen[/bold] wrote: Or maybe take a look at drivers over 60 most of whom have no road sense and are totally oblivious to what is goin around them! Especially on motorways and a roads, sitting in the left lane doing 50 mph giving hgv's no choice but to overtake! There needs to me a speed min and max between 60-70 mph obv when conditions permit, this would leave the left lane clear for hgvs to keep to their limit of 55mph and not having to clog up the fast lane because some oap has no idea how to drive ![/p][/quote]It is a speed 'limit' - not a minimum - nothing wrong with doing 50mph in the inside lane of a motorway. I generally drive at between 55 and 60mph to conserve fuel. If lorries wish to overtake me, then fine - I usually pass them again on hills - I have my car set to cruise control so will maintain the same speed where possible on motorways. Only a fool and someone who loves to throw money away thinks that everyone should be doing 60-70 MPH The police should start with the idiots riding motorbikes - who are probably related to those driving white vans! The motorbike riders think it is okay and legal to create a third lane on a dual carriageway. Sadly the police turn a blind eye to these idiots who undertake and ignore the speed limit. GentleGiant

6:17pm Wed 6 Feb 13

WhateverS says...

heartbeat wrote:
perini wrote:
I'd be more appreciative of them clamping down on mobile phone users - but it's a start!
Great, I really hope they get heavy on these bullies. I am often driven in a car with a "black box" which massively reduced the cost of insurance (to less than half). The black box measures speed being driven at, and the overall picture (not the odd inadvertent mile or two over the limit) is what the insurance company based the renewal on. As the driver is a law-abiding citizen the renewal halved the premium yet again so the policy now costs a quarter of original quotes! The main problem for the driver is these road bullies - despite the speed limit being 30, 40 or even 20 in various areas around town there are some roads where almost invariably a tailgater will sit right up behind trying to make them go faster (and break the law in the process). The police really need to clamp down on this so much!! And I agree about mobile phones, which are obviously so dangerous to use while driving. I would say on any ten minute journey across town a driver is likely to encounter at least one person completely transfixed by the phone call they are on. Again, where is the clamp down?? We keep hearing about it but I don't see any evidence, just blatant flouting of the law, day in day out.
No dout 60 in the fast lane a pretend policeman t osser just because of your tight fistedness for proper insurance
[quote][p][bold]heartbeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]perini[/bold] wrote: I'd be more appreciative of them clamping down on mobile phone users - but it's a start![/p][/quote]Great, I really hope they get heavy on these bullies. I am often driven in a car with a "black box" which massively reduced the cost of insurance (to less than half). The black box measures speed being driven at, and the overall picture (not the odd inadvertent mile or two over the limit) is what the insurance company based the renewal on. As the driver is a law-abiding citizen the renewal halved the premium yet again so the policy now costs a quarter of original quotes! The main problem for the driver is these road bullies - despite the speed limit being 30, 40 or even 20 in various areas around town there are some roads where almost invariably a tailgater will sit right up behind trying to make them go faster (and break the law in the process). The police really need to clamp down on this so much!! And I agree about mobile phones, which are obviously so dangerous to use while driving. I would say on any ten minute journey across town a driver is likely to encounter at least one person completely transfixed by the phone call they are on. Again, where is the clamp down?? We keep hearing about it but I don't see any evidence, just blatant flouting of the law, day in day out.[/p][/quote]No dout 60 in the fast lane a pretend policeman t osser just because of your tight fistedness for proper insurance WhateverS

7:42pm Wed 6 Feb 13

jolllyboy says...

About time as should the mobile users and the vertically challenged drivers who cannot see over their steering wheel.
About time as should the mobile users and the vertically challenged drivers who cannot see over their steering wheel. jolllyboy

7:56pm Wed 6 Feb 13

Diannah says...

Seeing that we are airing our grievances about bad drivers, can I please add people who do not put their dipped headlights on in fog. They have clearly forgotten they need to see AND BE SEEN!

Also, Is it just me or do car headlights seem to glare more these days?
Seeing that we are airing our grievances about bad drivers, can I please add people who do not put their dipped headlights on in fog. They have clearly forgotten they need to see AND BE SEEN! Also, Is it just me or do car headlights seem to glare more these days? Diannah

9:00pm Wed 6 Feb 13

Little John says...

Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd wrote:
A Pedant wrote:
Sir Peter - a simple method to avoid being undertaken which you may want to try - STICK TO THE INSIDE LANE!!! If you drive in the correct lane, then you won't be undertaken. I have losty count of the number of times I've been stuck on the 127 behind some idiot who feels it is his god-given right to stay in the right hand lane despite the other lane being free. And as for the new secton of M25, all that has done is push everyone into lanes 3-4 rather than 2-3.
Pick your toys up and put your dummy back in!
Dont think i mentioned anywhere in my comment that i drive only in the outside lane, you mustve misread my opinions??
And if the speed limit is 50, why cant I do 50 in the outside lane?...
Oh thats right there's always idiotic bikers wanting to do 90 and weave dangerously in and out of traffic!
Obviously not all bikers are selfish and ignore the rules, but obviously youre one of them that does if you get all riled up that easily!
Cant think of the last time i overtook a biker, they always seem to be going as fast as possible (even if it means weaving, undertaking, shooting of from the traffic lights as if its Santo Pod 1/4 mile!)its as if they'll break the speed limit at any given opportunity! (ITS CALLED A SPEED LIMIT FOR A REASON)
Just wondering. Do you know if your speedometer is absolutely correct or not. I know mine isn’t in a year and a bit old VW. I use the reading on my sat nav to know what speed I’m going. I heard an expert on the radio one day saying that your speed measured by GPS was more accurate than a speedometer in a car as they (speedometers) can be up to 10% out. Quite often I find myself doing 45 mph (sat nav measured) behind drivers in the outside lane on the A 127 who refuse to move over to let me pass as I’m assuming they think they are driving to the 50mph speed limit. For the record, I use the sat nav speed reading all over the south east every day as I drive pretty big distances. More often than not, I’m going faster than most other cars through speed cameras and average speed camera areas. Never had a speeding ticket in 30 years of driving either. If you are one of the cars in the outside lane doing 45mph, would you mind letting me pass in future please.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Pedant[/bold] wrote: Sir Peter - a simple method to avoid being undertaken which you may want to try - STICK TO THE INSIDE LANE!!! If you drive in the correct lane, then you won't be undertaken. I have losty count of the number of times I've been stuck on the 127 behind some idiot who feels it is his god-given right to stay in the right hand lane despite the other lane being free. And as for the new secton of M25, all that has done is push everyone into lanes 3-4 rather than 2-3.[/p][/quote]Pick your toys up and put your dummy back in! Dont think i mentioned anywhere in my comment that i drive only in the outside lane, you mustve misread my opinions?? And if the speed limit is 50, why cant I do 50 in the outside lane?... Oh thats right there's always idiotic bikers wanting to do 90 and weave dangerously in and out of traffic! Obviously not all bikers are selfish and ignore the rules, but obviously youre one of them that does if you get all riled up that easily! Cant think of the last time i overtook a biker, they always seem to be going as fast as possible (even if it means weaving, undertaking, shooting of from the traffic lights as if its Santo Pod 1/4 mile!)its as if they'll break the speed limit at any given opportunity! (ITS CALLED A SPEED LIMIT FOR A REASON)[/p][/quote]Just wondering. Do you know if your speedometer is absolutely correct or not. I know mine isn’t in a year and a bit old VW. I use the reading on my sat nav to know what speed I’m going. I heard an expert on the radio one day saying that your speed measured by GPS was more accurate than a speedometer in a car as they (speedometers) can be up to 10% out. Quite often I find myself doing 45 mph (sat nav measured) behind drivers in the outside lane on the A 127 who refuse to move over to let me pass as I’m assuming they think they are driving to the 50mph speed limit. For the record, I use the sat nav speed reading all over the south east every day as I drive pretty big distances. More often than not, I’m going faster than most other cars through speed cameras and average speed camera areas. Never had a speeding ticket in 30 years of driving either. If you are one of the cars in the outside lane doing 45mph, would you mind letting me pass in future please. Little John

9:46pm Wed 6 Feb 13

GentleGiant says...

Diannah wrote:
Seeing that we are airing our grievances about bad drivers, can I please add people who do not put their dipped headlights on in fog. They have clearly forgotten they need to see AND BE SEEN!

Also, Is it just me or do car headlights seem to glare more these days?
Equally so many have fog lights on in mist or rain etc.

fog lights are for fog only - something we actually do not have very often.
[quote][p][bold]Diannah[/bold] wrote: Seeing that we are airing our grievances about bad drivers, can I please add people who do not put their dipped headlights on in fog. They have clearly forgotten they need to see AND BE SEEN! Also, Is it just me or do car headlights seem to glare more these days?[/p][/quote]Equally so many have fog lights on in mist or rain etc. fog lights are for fog only - something we actually do not have very often. GentleGiant

9:51pm Wed 6 Feb 13

GentleGiant says...

Biker One wrote:
Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd wrote:
Motorcyclists are the number one culprits of undertaking bar none. Just try to keep up with a motorcyclist on any dual carraigeway and you will witness more undertakes than overtakes guarenteed. Morning and evening rush-hour on the A127 each day is unbelievable, bikers are a law unto themselves as the average speed camera's are forward facing and the bikers know this.
I don't see motorcyclists mentioned?
.
This is what they're after,
http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=YyNpcJ2mq

Cg
Try winding your neck in or get back in your pram!!
"TAILGATERS, impatient drivers who undertake or overtake in dangerous circumstances, will also be targeted under a new police crackdown."

Bikers very often undertake and very often overtake in dangerous circumstances - so yes bikers are covered!

You might be a great biker - but if you are then it must be frustrating to see many of your fellow bikers constantly break the law and put their lives and those of motorists at risk.
[quote][p][bold]Biker One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd[/bold] wrote: Motorcyclists are the number one culprits of undertaking bar none. Just try to keep up with a motorcyclist on any dual carraigeway and you will witness more undertakes than overtakes guarenteed. Morning and evening rush-hour on the A127 each day is unbelievable, bikers are a law unto themselves as the average speed camera's are forward facing and the bikers know this.[/p][/quote]I don't see motorcyclists mentioned? . This is what they're after, http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=YyNpcJ2mq Cg Try winding your neck in or get back in your pram!![/p][/quote]"TAILGATERS, impatient drivers who undertake or overtake in dangerous circumstances, will also be targeted under a new police crackdown." Bikers very often undertake and very often overtake in dangerous circumstances - so yes bikers are covered! You might be a great biker - but if you are then it must be frustrating to see many of your fellow bikers constantly break the law and put their lives and those of motorists at risk. GentleGiant

10:15pm Wed 6 Feb 13

whataday says...

At last
At last whataday

10:50pm Wed 6 Feb 13

canopy says...

shoebury52 wrote:
This is a good idea although would have to say some of the drivers for Essex police are hardly the best. I followed a female police officer from Basildon to southend. Her aggressive approach to driving fast up behind someone then sitting close to them till they moved over then sped along again to the next car.

Add onto this no lane control lane 2 the whole time. Lack of indicators when needed. She was not responding to an emergency as I pulled up next to her at progress road lights and watched her singing along and tapping on the steering wheel to her music.

A lot of the police vehicles in the borough must have dodgy speedometers cos none of them seem to stick to the speed limit. There driving should be above reproach is all I am saying. Think that is the word I meant
As a former class 1 police advanced driver and now an IAM Advanced Examiner I fully agree with your comments regarding Essex Police drivers and I have not witnessed such complacent driving anywhere apart from in Essex and by the Police. Well said.
[quote][p][bold]shoebury52[/bold] wrote: This is a good idea although would have to say some of the drivers for Essex police are hardly the best. I followed a female police officer from Basildon to southend. Her aggressive approach to driving fast up behind someone then sitting close to them till they moved over then sped along again to the next car. Add onto this no lane control lane 2 the whole time. Lack of indicators when needed. She was not responding to an emergency as I pulled up next to her at progress road lights and watched her singing along and tapping on the steering wheel to her music. A lot of the police vehicles in the borough must have dodgy speedometers cos none of them seem to stick to the speed limit. There driving should be above reproach is all I am saying. Think that is the word I meant[/p][/quote]As a former class 1 police advanced driver and now an IAM Advanced Examiner I fully agree with your comments regarding Essex Police drivers and I have not witnessed such complacent driving anywhere apart from in Essex and by the Police. Well said. canopy

12:25am Thu 7 Feb 13

Alan Jacobs says...

It's quite easy . I notice this behaviou more on narrow country lanes than anywhere else. If I encounter someone driving up my chuff trying to force me faster I just do the thing they want least and go slower and slower until the penny drops in their silly heads.
Once they can overtake I make a visual nonsense of blowing them a kiss.
That really riles 'em up...............
It's quite easy . I notice this behaviou more on narrow country lanes than anywhere else. If I encounter someone driving up my chuff trying to force me faster I just do the thing they want least and go slower and slower until the penny drops in their silly heads. Once they can overtake I make a visual nonsense of blowing them a kiss. That really riles 'em up............... Alan Jacobs

11:24am Thu 7 Feb 13

Ivanna Goodhump says...

Poor and incorrect lane discipline is the cause of most tailgating issues on dual carriageways and motorways and the Police should focus on this.

A prime example is the cretins who are heading toward Southend and wish to turn right at Progress Road so they get into the outside lane at the Rayleigh Weir underpass and amble at 40 for the next 2 miles oblivious at the chaos they are causing.
Poor and incorrect lane discipline is the cause of most tailgating issues on dual carriageways and motorways and the Police should focus on this. A prime example is the cretins who are heading toward Southend and wish to turn right at Progress Road so they get into the outside lane at the Rayleigh Weir underpass and amble at 40 for the next 2 miles oblivious at the chaos they are causing. Ivanna Goodhump

12:15pm Thu 7 Feb 13

boyracer21 says...

Ivanna Goodhump wrote:
Poor and incorrect lane discipline is the cause of most tailgating issues on dual carriageways and motorways and the Police should focus on this.

A prime example is the cretins who are heading toward Southend and wish to turn right at Progress Road so they get into the outside lane at the Rayleigh Weir underpass and amble at 40 for the next 2 miles oblivious at the chaos they are causing.
It would make more sense to have the A127 at 70mph still. But before the average speed cameras and after, I tend to sit at a nice comofortable speed of 100mph. Why not. Keep the roads moving.
[quote][p][bold]Ivanna Goodhump[/bold] wrote: Poor and incorrect lane discipline is the cause of most tailgating issues on dual carriageways and motorways and the Police should focus on this. A prime example is the cretins who are heading toward Southend and wish to turn right at Progress Road so they get into the outside lane at the Rayleigh Weir underpass and amble at 40 for the next 2 miles oblivious at the chaos they are causing.[/p][/quote]It would make more sense to have the A127 at 70mph still. But before the average speed cameras and after, I tend to sit at a nice comofortable speed of 100mph. Why not. Keep the roads moving. boyracer21

12:18pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Ugly says...

essex73 wrote:
Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd wrote:
A Pedant wrote: Sir Peter - a simple method to avoid being undertaken which you may want to try - STICK TO THE INSIDE LANE!!! If you drive in the correct lane, then you won't be undertaken. I have losty count of the number of times I've been stuck on the 127 behind some idiot who feels it is his god-given right to stay in the right hand lane despite the other lane being free. And as for the new secton of M25, all that has done is push everyone into lanes 3-4 rather than 2-3.
Pick your toys up and put your dummy back in! Dont think i mentioned anywhere in my comment that i drive only in the outside lane, you mustve misread my opinions?? And if the speed limit is 50, why cant I do 50 in the outside lane?... Oh thats right there's always idiotic bikers wanting to do 90 and weave dangerously in and out of traffic! Obviously not all bikers are selfish and ignore the rules, but obviously youre one of them that does if you get all riled up that easily! Cant think of the last time i overtook a biker, they always seem to be going as fast as possible (even if it means weaving, undertaking, shooting of from the traffic lights as if its Santo Pod 1/4 mile!)its as if they'll break the speed limit at any given opportunity! (ITS CALLED A SPEED LIMIT FOR A REASON)
Why cant you do 50 in the outside lane?...
Article 264 in the Highway Code may help here:

You should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is clear. If you are overtaking a number of slower-moving vehicles, you should return to the left-hand lane as soon as you are safely past. Slow-moving or speed-restricted vehicles should always remain in the left-hand lane of the carriageway unless overtaking. You MUST NOT drive on the hard shoulder except in an emergency or if directed to do so by the police, HA traffic officers in uniform or by signs.
I was just about to post a similar response, but have no need now.
[quote][p][bold]essex73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Pedant[/bold] wrote: Sir Peter - a simple method to avoid being undertaken which you may want to try - STICK TO THE INSIDE LANE!!! If you drive in the correct lane, then you won't be undertaken. I have losty count of the number of times I've been stuck on the 127 behind some idiot who feels it is his god-given right to stay in the right hand lane despite the other lane being free. And as for the new secton of M25, all that has done is push everyone into lanes 3-4 rather than 2-3.[/p][/quote]Pick your toys up and put your dummy back in! Dont think i mentioned anywhere in my comment that i drive only in the outside lane, you mustve misread my opinions?? And if the speed limit is 50, why cant I do 50 in the outside lane?... Oh thats right there's always idiotic bikers wanting to do 90 and weave dangerously in and out of traffic! Obviously not all bikers are selfish and ignore the rules, but obviously youre one of them that does if you get all riled up that easily! Cant think of the last time i overtook a biker, they always seem to be going as fast as possible (even if it means weaving, undertaking, shooting of from the traffic lights as if its Santo Pod 1/4 mile!)its as if they'll break the speed limit at any given opportunity! (ITS CALLED A SPEED LIMIT FOR A REASON)[/p][/quote]Why cant you do 50 in the outside lane?... Article 264 in the Highway Code may help here: You should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is clear. If you are overtaking a number of slower-moving vehicles, you should return to the left-hand lane as soon as you are safely past. Slow-moving or speed-restricted vehicles should always remain in the left-hand lane of the carriageway unless overtaking. You MUST NOT drive on the hard shoulder except in an emergency or if directed to do so by the police, HA traffic officers in uniform or by signs.[/p][/quote]I was just about to post a similar response, but have no need now. Ugly

12:56pm Thu 7 Feb 13

angryofessex says...

boyracer21 wrote:
Just another excuse to make more money for the government ayy. But anyway, I never have this problem because I simply drive too fast! I would consider myself a speeder, and it does frustrate me, as other people have mentioned, when people lane hog. The is my pet hate, and leaves me no choice to undertake. With a car capable of 150mph and 0-60 in under 7 seconds, Its no problem for me atall. Im not going to mention what car I have as this could lead to me being identified. I also am guilty of tailgating too, epsecially late at night, people feel the need to do under the speed limit even when its a clear straight road. Ive done a whopping 100mph in a 40mph zone before, and really dont see what the problem is. Never had a crash before, and yes you have guessed it, I do have points! Only 3 though. Another money making scandal that was too. I was only doing 70 in a 50 and I was still penalised by the sneaky parked up behind a tree traffic cop! Basta5rd ayy! I speed everyday, and have done for the past 4 years. Essex police, please concentrate in real crime. Many thanks.
It's an AUDI isn't it boyracer
[quote][p][bold]boyracer21[/bold] wrote: Just another excuse to make more money for the government ayy. But anyway, I never have this problem because I simply drive too fast! I would consider myself a speeder, and it does frustrate me, as other people have mentioned, when people lane hog. The is my pet hate, and leaves me no choice to undertake. With a car capable of 150mph and 0-60 in under 7 seconds, Its no problem for me atall. Im not going to mention what car I have as this could lead to me being identified. I also am guilty of tailgating too, epsecially late at night, people feel the need to do under the speed limit even when its a clear straight road. Ive done a whopping 100mph in a 40mph zone before, and really dont see what the problem is. Never had a crash before, and yes you have guessed it, I do have points! Only 3 though. Another money making scandal that was too. I was only doing 70 in a 50 and I was still penalised by the sneaky parked up behind a tree traffic cop! Basta5rd ayy! I speed everyday, and have done for the past 4 years. Essex police, please concentrate in real crime. Many thanks.[/p][/quote]It's an AUDI isn't it boyracer angryofessex

12:58pm Thu 7 Feb 13

foxy108 says...

GentleGiant wrote:
Diannah wrote: Seeing that we are airing our grievances about bad drivers, can I please add people who do not put their dipped headlights on in fog. They have clearly forgotten they need to see AND BE SEEN! Also, Is it just me or do car headlights seem to glare more these days?
Equally so many have fog lights on in mist or rain etc. fog lights are for fog only - something we actually do not have very often.
I think you'll find that Gentlegiant is referring to lights in general that need to be on in fog.. I've lost count of the amount of cars I've (barely) seen without any lights on in fog, or lights on at twilight/sunrise. Gets my goat more than tailgaters.
[quote][p][bold]GentleGiant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Diannah[/bold] wrote: Seeing that we are airing our grievances about bad drivers, can I please add people who do not put their dipped headlights on in fog. They have clearly forgotten they need to see AND BE SEEN! Also, Is it just me or do car headlights seem to glare more these days?[/p][/quote]Equally so many have fog lights on in mist or rain etc. fog lights are for fog only - something we actually do not have very often.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that Gentlegiant is referring to lights in general that need to be on in fog.. I've lost count of the amount of cars I've (barely) seen without any lights on in fog, or lights on at twilight/sunrise. Gets my goat more than tailgaters. foxy108

1:55pm Thu 7 Feb 13

whataday says...

Bigen wrote:
GentleGiant wrote:
Bigen wrote:
Or maybe take a look at drivers over 60 most of whom have no road sense and are totally oblivious to what is goin around them! Especially on motorways and a roads, sitting in the left lane doing 50 mph giving hgv's no choice but to overtake! There needs to me a speed min and max between 60-70 mph obv when conditions permit, this would leave the left lane clear for hgvs to keep to their limit of 55mph and not having to clog up the fast lane because some oap has no idea how to drive !
It is a speed 'limit' - not a minimum - nothing wrong with doing 50mph in the inside lane of a motorway. I generally drive at between 55 and 60mph to conserve fuel.

If lorries wish to overtake me, then fine - I usually pass them again on hills - I have my car set to cruise control so will maintain the same speed where possible on motorways.

Only a fool and someone who loves to throw money away thinks that everyone should be doing 60-70 MPH

The police should start with the idiots riding motorbikes - who are probably related to those driving white vans!

The motorbike riders think it is okay and legal to create a third lane on a dual carriageway. Sadly the police turn a blind eye to these idiots who undertake and ignore the speed limit.
Hgv's are limited to 55 and the drivers need to get from a to b as fast as legally possible , and being stuck behind a plonker like you doing 50mph would cut the distance they they are able to travel in a Woking day by 40 miles! So stick the few quid you'd spend in extra fuel up your arse you tight fisted old ****! Over 60s should have to take a driving test every year! That would make the roads a safer place!
So should lorry drivers
[quote][p][bold]Bigen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GentleGiant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bigen[/bold] wrote: Or maybe take a look at drivers over 60 most of whom have no road sense and are totally oblivious to what is goin around them! Especially on motorways and a roads, sitting in the left lane doing 50 mph giving hgv's no choice but to overtake! There needs to me a speed min and max between 60-70 mph obv when conditions permit, this would leave the left lane clear for hgvs to keep to their limit of 55mph and not having to clog up the fast lane because some oap has no idea how to drive ![/p][/quote]It is a speed 'limit' - not a minimum - nothing wrong with doing 50mph in the inside lane of a motorway. I generally drive at between 55 and 60mph to conserve fuel. If lorries wish to overtake me, then fine - I usually pass them again on hills - I have my car set to cruise control so will maintain the same speed where possible on motorways. Only a fool and someone who loves to throw money away thinks that everyone should be doing 60-70 MPH The police should start with the idiots riding motorbikes - who are probably related to those driving white vans! The motorbike riders think it is okay and legal to create a third lane on a dual carriageway. Sadly the police turn a blind eye to these idiots who undertake and ignore the speed limit.[/p][/quote]Hgv's are limited to 55 and the drivers need to get from a to b as fast as legally possible , and being stuck behind a plonker like you doing 50mph would cut the distance they they are able to travel in a Woking day by 40 miles! So stick the few quid you'd spend in extra fuel up your arse you tight fisted old ****! Over 60s should have to take a driving test every year! That would make the roads a safer place![/p][/quote]So should lorry drivers whataday

2:44pm Thu 7 Feb 13

A Pedant says...

Ivana - it's the same all the way from the A127 up the A1245 to Rawreth Lane although it gets worse from the Carpenters Arms
Ivana - it's the same all the way from the A127 up the A1245 to Rawreth Lane although it gets worse from the Carpenters Arms A Pedant

3:17pm Thu 7 Feb 13

woolstone says...

I think there are two problems here, drivers in the wrong lane doing the wrong speed and the other type of drivers who think if you tailgate the driver in front he will go faster. I have often felt like stopping and asking the driver behind if they would like me to open my boot so they can drive closer.
I think there are two problems here, drivers in the wrong lane doing the wrong speed and the other type of drivers who think if you tailgate the driver in front he will go faster. I have often felt like stopping and asking the driver behind if they would like me to open my boot so they can drive closer. woolstone

6:05pm Thu 7 Feb 13

stopmoaning1 says...

Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd wrote:
A Pedant wrote:
Sir Peter - a simple method to avoid being undertaken which you may want to try - STICK TO THE INSIDE LANE!!! If you drive in the correct lane, then you won't be undertaken. I have losty count of the number of times I've been stuck on the 127 behind some idiot who feels it is his god-given right to stay in the right hand lane despite the other lane being free. And as for the new secton of M25, all that has done is push everyone into lanes 3-4 rather than 2-3.
Pick your toys up and put your dummy back in!
Dont think i mentioned anywhere in my comment that i drive only in the outside lane, you mustve misread my opinions??
And if the speed limit is 50, why cant I do 50 in the outside lane?...
Oh thats right there's always idiotic bikers wanting to do 90 and weave dangerously in and out of traffic!
Obviously not all bikers are selfish and ignore the rules, but obviously youre one of them that does if you get all riled up that easily!
Cant think of the last time i overtook a biker, they always seem to be going as fast as possible (even if it means weaving, undertaking, shooting of from the traffic lights as if its Santo Pod 1/4 mile!)its as if they'll break the speed limit at any given opportunity! (ITS CALLED A SPEED LIMIT FOR A REASON)
In this counrty we drive on the LEFT. Any other lanes on motorways or dual carriages are OVERTAKING LANES. You have no right to attempt to control the speed of somebody wanting to come past you as that behaviour in itself can constitute careless or inconsiderate driving
[quote][p][bold]Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Pedant[/bold] wrote: Sir Peter - a simple method to avoid being undertaken which you may want to try - STICK TO THE INSIDE LANE!!! If you drive in the correct lane, then you won't be undertaken. I have losty count of the number of times I've been stuck on the 127 behind some idiot who feels it is his god-given right to stay in the right hand lane despite the other lane being free. And as for the new secton of M25, all that has done is push everyone into lanes 3-4 rather than 2-3.[/p][/quote]Pick your toys up and put your dummy back in! Dont think i mentioned anywhere in my comment that i drive only in the outside lane, you mustve misread my opinions?? And if the speed limit is 50, why cant I do 50 in the outside lane?... Oh thats right there's always idiotic bikers wanting to do 90 and weave dangerously in and out of traffic! Obviously not all bikers are selfish and ignore the rules, but obviously youre one of them that does if you get all riled up that easily! Cant think of the last time i overtook a biker, they always seem to be going as fast as possible (even if it means weaving, undertaking, shooting of from the traffic lights as if its Santo Pod 1/4 mile!)its as if they'll break the speed limit at any given opportunity! (ITS CALLED A SPEED LIMIT FOR A REASON)[/p][/quote]In this counrty we drive on the LEFT. Any other lanes on motorways or dual carriages are OVERTAKING LANES. You have no right to attempt to control the speed of somebody wanting to come past you as that behaviour in itself can constitute careless or inconsiderate driving stopmoaning1

8:06pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Ironman says...

boyracer21 wrote:
Ivanna Goodhump wrote:
Poor and incorrect lane discipline is the cause of most tailgating issues on dual carriageways and motorways and the Police should focus on this.

A prime example is the cretins who are heading toward Southend and wish to turn right at Progress Road so they get into the outside lane at the Rayleigh Weir underpass and amble at 40 for the next 2 miles oblivious at the chaos they are causing.
It would make more sense to have the A127 at 70mph still. But before the average speed cameras and after, I tend to sit at a nice comofortable speed of 100mph. Why not. Keep the roads moving.
Speed on, bigboy, cemetry straight ahead.
[quote][p][bold]boyracer21[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ivanna Goodhump[/bold] wrote: Poor and incorrect lane discipline is the cause of most tailgating issues on dual carriageways and motorways and the Police should focus on this. A prime example is the cretins who are heading toward Southend and wish to turn right at Progress Road so they get into the outside lane at the Rayleigh Weir underpass and amble at 40 for the next 2 miles oblivious at the chaos they are causing.[/p][/quote]It would make more sense to have the A127 at 70mph still. But before the average speed cameras and after, I tend to sit at a nice comofortable speed of 100mph. Why not. Keep the roads moving.[/p][/quote]Speed on, bigboy, cemetry straight ahead. Ironman

8:13pm Thu 7 Feb 13

stopmoaning1 says...

mrjames1972 wrote:
This is good news there's nothing worse
Then some bumpy sitting on my bumper when I'm going
Down the motorway it's dangerous and stupid
No excuse don't doit
Move over then!
[quote][p][bold]mrjames1972[/bold] wrote: This is good news there's nothing worse Then some bumpy sitting on my bumper when I'm going Down the motorway it's dangerous and stupid No excuse don't doit[/p][/quote]Move over then! stopmoaning1

9:03pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Peter245 says...

What a stupid thing for the police to announce they are "cracking down on"... What next... "police arrest people for crimes"

It should already be being watched and dealt with accordingly.


An to the person who uses there satnav as a speedo, you are wrong! the reason you have not been given a speeding ticket is because speed camera's allow for 10% of your speed +5mph for the exact reason that a speedo may be incorrect. also, if somebody is doing 45mph in the outside lane, and their speedo says 50, Why should they not believe it? if there speedo is correct and yours is wrong, why should they risk a speeding ticket?

Its not about speed, also, if somebody drives right on my bumper, I slow down for the simple reason, that if I do have to suddenly brake, then the impact won't be as bad.

Simple answer, DONT TAILGATE! Its illegal, and dangerous.
What a stupid thing for the police to announce they are "cracking down on"... What next... "police arrest people for crimes" It should already be being watched and dealt with accordingly. An to the person who uses there satnav as a speedo, you are wrong! the reason you have not been given a speeding ticket is because speed camera's allow for 10% of your speed +5mph for the exact reason that a speedo may be incorrect. also, if somebody is doing 45mph in the outside lane, and their speedo says 50, Why should they not believe it? if there speedo is correct and yours is wrong, why should they risk a speeding ticket? Its not about speed, also, if somebody drives right on my bumper, I slow down for the simple reason, that if I do have to suddenly brake, then the impact won't be as bad. Simple answer, DONT TAILGATE! Its illegal, and dangerous. Peter245

11:21pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Shoebury_Cyclist says...

So many perfect drivers in one comments thread.
So many perfect drivers in one comments thread. Shoebury_Cyclist

9:40am Fri 8 Feb 13

stopmoaning1 says...

Peter245 wrote:
What a stupid thing for the police to announce they are "cracking down on"... What next... "police arrest people for crimes"

It should already be being watched and dealt with accordingly.


An to the person who uses there satnav as a speedo, you are wrong! the reason you have not been given a speeding ticket is because speed camera's allow for 10% of your speed +5mph for the exact reason that a speedo may be incorrect. also, if somebody is doing 45mph in the outside lane, and their speedo says 50, Why should they not believe it? if there speedo is correct and yours is wrong, why should they risk a speeding ticket?

Its not about speed, also, if somebody drives right on my bumper, I slow down for the simple reason, that if I do have to suddenly brake, then the impact won't be as bad.

Simple answer, DONT TAILGATE! Its illegal, and dangerous.
In this counrty we drive on the LEFT. Any other lanes on motorways or dual carriages are OVERTAKING LANES. You have no right to attempt to control the speed of somebody wanting to come past you as that behaviour in itself can constitute careless or inconsiderate driving”
[quote][p][bold]Peter245[/bold] wrote: What a stupid thing for the police to announce they are "cracking down on"... What next... "police arrest people for crimes" It should already be being watched and dealt with accordingly. An to the person who uses there satnav as a speedo, you are wrong! the reason you have not been given a speeding ticket is because speed camera's allow for 10% of your speed +5mph for the exact reason that a speedo may be incorrect. also, if somebody is doing 45mph in the outside lane, and their speedo says 50, Why should they not believe it? if there speedo is correct and yours is wrong, why should they risk a speeding ticket? Its not about speed, also, if somebody drives right on my bumper, I slow down for the simple reason, that if I do have to suddenly brake, then the impact won't be as bad. Simple answer, DONT TAILGATE! Its illegal, and dangerous.[/p][/quote]In this counrty we drive on the LEFT. Any other lanes on motorways or dual carriages are OVERTAKING LANES. You have no right to attempt to control the speed of somebody wanting to come past you as that behaviour in itself can constitute careless or inconsiderate driving” stopmoaning1

12:44pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Alekhine says...

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
So many perfect drivers in one comments thread.
You must be feeling left out. Nobody has metioned cycles (bugger i just did).
[quote][p][bold]Shoebury_Cyclist[/bold] wrote: So many perfect drivers in one comments thread.[/p][/quote]You must be feeling left out. Nobody has metioned cycles (bugger i just did). Alekhine

12:46pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Alekhine says...

Carnabackable wrote:
Double red brake lights, see 'em back off
I wonder why motorbikes undertake?
[quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: Double red brake lights, see 'em back off[/p][/quote]I wonder why motorbikes undertake? Alekhine

2:30pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Little John says...

Peter245 wrote:
What a stupid thing for the police to announce they are "cracking down on"... What next... "police arrest people for crimes"

It should already be being watched and dealt with accordingly.


An to the person who uses there satnav as a speedo, you are wrong! the reason you have not been given a speeding ticket is because speed camera's allow for 10% of your speed +5mph for the exact reason that a speedo may be incorrect. also, if somebody is doing 45mph in the outside lane, and their speedo says 50, Why should they not believe it? if there speedo is correct and yours is wrong, why should they risk a speeding ticket?

Its not about speed, also, if somebody drives right on my bumper, I slow down for the simple reason, that if I do have to suddenly brake, then the impact won't be as bad.

Simple answer, DONT TAILGATE! Its illegal, and dangerous.
Hmmm. I know about the 10% allowance for speed on cameras. The traffic police, when on patrol use the same allowance I understand. The reason I have no points on my licence is my speed is measured accurately using GPS, not because of an allowance made in speed cameras. I know I could drive at 55mph in the average speed camera zone and still be within the law, but I don’t. I stick at 50mph. That is until I come across the bloke in front of me on the outside lane who is doing less than the limit as his speedometer is wrong and refuses to acknowledge this and do something about it apart for moan about people trying to get past them. If you are suffering from as many tailgaters as your post suggests why don’t you get your speedometer checked out or measure it yourself with a sat nav. It suggests that you are probably going slower than you think and are holding up motorists doing the speed limit within the law. Let’s face it, if the guy behind you is speeding on some parts of the A127, they will get a ticket in the post if you let them pass instead of holding them up. More money for the government that way to fund the NHS and no way they will shunt you if you brake suddenly as they would be way past you up the road. Everyone’s a winner.
[quote][p][bold]Peter245[/bold] wrote: What a stupid thing for the police to announce they are "cracking down on"... What next... "police arrest people for crimes" It should already be being watched and dealt with accordingly. An to the person who uses there satnav as a speedo, you are wrong! the reason you have not been given a speeding ticket is because speed camera's allow for 10% of your speed +5mph for the exact reason that a speedo may be incorrect. also, if somebody is doing 45mph in the outside lane, and their speedo says 50, Why should they not believe it? if there speedo is correct and yours is wrong, why should they risk a speeding ticket? Its not about speed, also, if somebody drives right on my bumper, I slow down for the simple reason, that if I do have to suddenly brake, then the impact won't be as bad. Simple answer, DONT TAILGATE! Its illegal, and dangerous.[/p][/quote]Hmmm. I know about the 10% allowance for speed on cameras. The traffic police, when on patrol use the same allowance I understand. The reason I have no points on my licence is my speed is measured accurately using GPS, not because of an allowance made in speed cameras. I know I could drive at 55mph in the average speed camera zone and still be within the law, but I don’t. I stick at 50mph. That is until I come across the bloke in front of me on the outside lane who is doing less than the limit as his speedometer is wrong and refuses to acknowledge this and do something about it apart for moan about people trying to get past them. If you are suffering from as many tailgaters as your post suggests why don’t you get your speedometer checked out or measure it yourself with a sat nav. It suggests that you are probably going slower than you think and are holding up motorists doing the speed limit within the law. Let’s face it, if the guy behind you is speeding on some parts of the A127, they will get a ticket in the post if you let them pass instead of holding them up. More money for the government that way to fund the NHS and no way they will shunt you if you brake suddenly as they would be way past you up the road. Everyone’s a winner. Little John

4:12pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Alekhine says...

0-60 in under 7 seconds sounds slow for you boyracer21. Have you got enya mood music on the boom box slowing you down?
0-60 in under 7 seconds sounds slow for you boyracer21. Have you got enya mood music on the boom box slowing you down? Alekhine

5:17pm Fri 8 Feb 13

boyracer21 says...

Alekhine wrote:
0-60 in under 7 seconds sounds slow for you boyracer21. Have you got enya mood music on the boom box slowing you down?
Depends how I feel. I do have a sound system fitted in yes. But I like to listen to the turbo as well.
[quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: 0-60 in under 7 seconds sounds slow for you boyracer21. Have you got enya mood music on the boom box slowing you down?[/p][/quote]Depends how I feel. I do have a sound system fitted in yes. But I like to listen to the turbo as well. boyracer21

5:26pm Fri 8 Feb 13

paulatepc says...

Maybe what we need are more front-facing cameras and the videos put on YouTube along with the numberplates on view.
Maybe what we need are more front-facing cameras and the videos put on YouTube along with the numberplates on view. paulatepc

6:30pm Fri 8 Feb 13

stopmoaning1 says...

paulatepc wrote:
Maybe what we need are more front-facing cameras and the videos put on YouTube along with the numberplates on view.
Yes, because guess where motor bikes don't have number plates.
I despair at some people’s logic.

There would be no problem if people kept to the correct lane rather than thinking it's their god given right to drive in lanes 2 or 3 'at the speed limit' and refusing to move over. As I've said before, that type of driving can be deemed careless or inconsiderate in its own right.
I hope the police target these idiots as well.
[quote][p][bold]paulatepc[/bold] wrote: Maybe what we need are more front-facing cameras and the videos put on YouTube along with the numberplates on view.[/p][/quote]Yes, because guess where motor bikes don't have number plates. I despair at some people’s logic. There would be no problem if people kept to the correct lane rather than thinking it's their god given right to drive in lanes 2 or 3 'at the speed limit' and refusing to move over. As I've said before, that type of driving can be deemed careless or inconsiderate in its own right. I hope the police target these idiots as well. stopmoaning1

9:41pm Fri 8 Feb 13

boyracer21 says...

stopmoaning1 wrote:
paulatepc wrote:
Maybe what we need are more front-facing cameras and the videos put on YouTube along with the numberplates on view.
Yes, because guess where motor bikes don't have number plates.
I despair at some people’s logic.

There would be no problem if people kept to the correct lane rather than thinking it's their god given right to drive in lanes 2 or 3 'at the speed limit' and refusing to move over. As I've said before, that type of driving can be deemed careless or inconsiderate in its own right.
I hope the police target these idiots as well.
I dont think they will though. As long as you are within the speed limit they wont bother. In my law, lane 3 is the 100mph+ lane, lane 2 is the 70mph lane, and lane 3 is for HGV's and the 55mph slow car gang.
[quote][p][bold]stopmoaning1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]paulatepc[/bold] wrote: Maybe what we need are more front-facing cameras and the videos put on YouTube along with the numberplates on view.[/p][/quote]Yes, because guess where motor bikes don't have number plates. I despair at some people’s logic. There would be no problem if people kept to the correct lane rather than thinking it's their god given right to drive in lanes 2 or 3 'at the speed limit' and refusing to move over. As I've said before, that type of driving can be deemed careless or inconsiderate in its own right. I hope the police target these idiots as well.[/p][/quote]I dont think they will though. As long as you are within the speed limit they wont bother. In my law, lane 3 is the 100mph+ lane, lane 2 is the 70mph lane, and lane 3 is for HGV's and the 55mph slow car gang. boyracer21

10:57pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Peter245 says...

Little John wrote:
Peter245 wrote:
What a stupid thing for the police to announce they are "cracking down on"... What next... "police arrest people for crimes"

It should already be being watched and dealt with accordingly.


An to the person who uses there satnav as a speedo, you are wrong! the reason you have not been given a speeding ticket is because speed camera's allow for 10% of your speed +5mph for the exact reason that a speedo may be incorrect. also, if somebody is doing 45mph in the outside lane, and their speedo says 50, Why should they not believe it? if there speedo is correct and yours is wrong, why should they risk a speeding ticket?

Its not about speed, also, if somebody drives right on my bumper, I slow down for the simple reason, that if I do have to suddenly brake, then the impact won't be as bad.

Simple answer, DONT TAILGATE! Its illegal, and dangerous.
Hmmm. I know about the 10% allowance for speed on cameras. The traffic police, when on patrol use the same allowance I understand. The reason I have no points on my licence is my speed is measured accurately using GPS, not because of an allowance made in speed cameras. I know I could drive at 55mph in the average speed camera zone and still be within the law, but I don’t. I stick at 50mph. That is until I come across the bloke in front of me on the outside lane who is doing less than the limit as his speedometer is wrong and refuses to acknowledge this and do something about it apart for moan about people trying to get past them. If you are suffering from as many tailgaters as your post suggests why don’t you get your speedometer checked out or measure it yourself with a sat nav. It suggests that you are probably going slower than you think and are holding up motorists doing the speed limit within the law. Let’s face it, if the guy behind you is speeding on some parts of the A127, they will get a ticket in the post if you let them pass instead of holding them up. More money for the government that way to fund the NHS and no way they will shunt you if you brake suddenly as they would be way past you up the road. Everyone’s a winner.
Not all GPS systems are accurate, but some high end ones may be. I dont often suffer from tailgaters, apart from in 30mph zones, where built up with parked cars, I feel its safer to drive below the speed limit incase of children.  I dont pretend to be a perfect driver, not that you said I do, as I often drive around 5mph over the speed limit, if the conditions allow. The only part of the A127 I spend in the right lane, is on the approach to Rayleigh-weir, Southend bound, during busy times, when the traffic is slower because of alot of traffic leaving the A127.

I realize my previous comment about slowing down if someone tailgates me sounds like its all the time, but I meant on single carriageways and in built up areas. Your not a mind reader, but I missed that bit out. I should read my comments before posting.



Boyracer21, you are an idiot. Its as simple as that. "I dont see the harm i'm causing if I dont crash..." all ifs and buts, If you crash, your likely to die, but when you do, your also likely to kill an innocent person. Think of what your family will go through if/when you do kill yourself, and you passengers family, and the family of the other person your likely to kill!
[quote][p][bold]Little John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter245[/bold] wrote: What a stupid thing for the police to announce they are "cracking down on"... What next... "police arrest people for crimes" It should already be being watched and dealt with accordingly. An to the person who uses there satnav as a speedo, you are wrong! the reason you have not been given a speeding ticket is because speed camera's allow for 10% of your speed +5mph for the exact reason that a speedo may be incorrect. also, if somebody is doing 45mph in the outside lane, and their speedo says 50, Why should they not believe it? if there speedo is correct and yours is wrong, why should they risk a speeding ticket? Its not about speed, also, if somebody drives right on my bumper, I slow down for the simple reason, that if I do have to suddenly brake, then the impact won't be as bad. Simple answer, DONT TAILGATE! Its illegal, and dangerous.[/p][/quote]Hmmm. I know about the 10% allowance for speed on cameras. The traffic police, when on patrol use the same allowance I understand. The reason I have no points on my licence is my speed is measured accurately using GPS, not because of an allowance made in speed cameras. I know I could drive at 55mph in the average speed camera zone and still be within the law, but I don’t. I stick at 50mph. That is until I come across the bloke in front of me on the outside lane who is doing less than the limit as his speedometer is wrong and refuses to acknowledge this and do something about it apart for moan about people trying to get past them. If you are suffering from as many tailgaters as your post suggests why don’t you get your speedometer checked out or measure it yourself with a sat nav. It suggests that you are probably going slower than you think and are holding up motorists doing the speed limit within the law. Let’s face it, if the guy behind you is speeding on some parts of the A127, they will get a ticket in the post if you let them pass instead of holding them up. More money for the government that way to fund the NHS and no way they will shunt you if you brake suddenly as they would be way past you up the road. Everyone’s a winner.[/p][/quote]Not all GPS systems are accurate, but some high end ones may be. I dont often suffer from tailgaters, apart from in 30mph zones, where built up with parked cars, I feel its safer to drive below the speed limit incase of children.  I dont pretend to be a perfect driver, not that you said I do, as I often drive around 5mph over the speed limit, if the conditions allow. The only part of the A127 I spend in the right lane, is on the approach to Rayleigh-weir, Southend bound, during busy times, when the traffic is slower because of alot of traffic leaving the A127. I realize my previous comment about slowing down if someone tailgates me sounds like its all the time, but I meant on single carriageways and in built up areas. Your not a mind reader, but I missed that bit out. I should read my comments before posting. Boyracer21, you are an idiot. Its as simple as that. "I dont see the harm i'm causing if I dont crash..." all ifs and buts, If you crash, your likely to die, but when you do, your also likely to kill an innocent person. Think of what your family will go through if/when you do kill yourself, and you passengers family, and the family of the other person your likely to kill! Peter245

11:06pm Fri 8 Feb 13

EthanEdwards says...

Quick question. Has anyone noticed the make of car that most of the terrible drivers (that you see) are using?
Quick question. Has anyone noticed the make of car that most of the terrible drivers (that you see) are using? EthanEdwards

11:40pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Peter245 says...

EthanEdwards wrote:
Quick question. Has anyone noticed the make of car that most of the terrible drivers (that you see) are using?
Generally BMW or Audi. Wouldnt want to group everyone into the same category as I drive a BMW but I can honestly say, hand on heart, I dont tailgate.
[quote][p][bold]EthanEdwards[/bold] wrote: Quick question. Has anyone noticed the make of car that most of the terrible drivers (that you see) are using?[/p][/quote]Generally BMW or Audi. Wouldnt want to group everyone into the same category as I drive a BMW but I can honestly say, hand on heart, I dont tailgate. Peter245

1:30am Sat 9 Feb 13

EthanEdwards says...

Yes I was thinking Audi 'Enema GTI' as well.
Yes I was thinking Audi 'Enema GTI' as well. EthanEdwards

5:49am Sat 9 Feb 13

jvoodoo says...

The whole side of driving and the standards that we experience these days are unacceptable, Right from the start, learner drivers need to be made aware of bad weather conditions and even the dark! PUT YOUR LIGHTS ON!
The same goes for those 'people' who have child on board in the window, choose to speed, fail to indicate,drive like morons, and yet if you was to make an error whilst driving, whoa betide you! They are the 1st to scream at you 'I have achild on board!' well so bloody what! notice in the window or not changes nothing! we are all meant to be responsible, we are driving vehicles that can cause injury or death, space is limited on the roads, but lets not make it the same for basic common sense?
The whole side of driving and the standards that we experience these days are unacceptable, Right from the start, learner drivers need to be made aware of bad weather conditions and even the dark! PUT YOUR LIGHTS ON! The same goes for those 'people' who have child on board in the window, choose to speed, fail to indicate,drive like morons, and yet if you was to make an error whilst driving, whoa betide you! They are the 1st to scream at you 'I have achild on board!' well so bloody what! notice in the window or not changes nothing! we are all meant to be responsible, we are driving vehicles that can cause injury or death, space is limited on the roads, but lets not make it the same for basic common sense? jvoodoo

10:12am Sat 9 Feb 13

Letmetryagain says...

I agree with the above. Although lights are only needed in bad driving conditions, not every time it rains, or it's a bit misty.

My pet hate is people sitting in traffic, blinding you by keeping their foot on the brake.
I agree with the above. Although lights are only needed in bad driving conditions, not every time it rains, or it's a bit misty. My pet hate is people sitting in traffic, blinding you by keeping their foot on the brake. Letmetryagain

5:46pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Eric the Red says...

Letmetryagain wrote:
I agree with the above. Although lights are only needed in bad driving conditions, not every time it rains, or it's a bit misty.

My pet hate is people sitting in traffic, blinding you by keeping their foot on the brake.
Because - like 90% of drivers - they are too bone-idle to use the handbrake.
[quote][p][bold]Letmetryagain[/bold] wrote: I agree with the above. Although lights are only needed in bad driving conditions, not every time it rains, or it's a bit misty. My pet hate is people sitting in traffic, blinding you by keeping their foot on the brake.[/p][/quote]Because - like 90% of drivers - they are too bone-idle to use the handbrake. Eric the Red

11:11pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Diannah says...

EthanEdwards wrote:
Quick question. Has anyone noticed the make of car that most of the terrible drivers (that you see) are using?
Volvo!
[quote][p][bold]EthanEdwards[/bold] wrote: Quick question. Has anyone noticed the make of car that most of the terrible drivers (that you see) are using?[/p][/quote]Volvo! Diannah

5:15pm Tue 12 Feb 13

watnocky says...

a thread of tailgaters
a thread of tailgaters watnocky

7:06pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Nebs says...

jvoodoo wrote:
The whole side of driving and the standards that we experience these days are unacceptable, Right from the start, learner drivers need to be made aware of bad weather conditions and even the dark! PUT YOUR LIGHTS ON!
The same goes for those 'people' who have child on board in the window, choose to speed, fail to indicate,drive like morons, and yet if you was to make an error whilst driving, whoa betide you! They are the 1st to scream at you 'I have achild on board!' well so bloody what! notice in the window or not changes nothing! we are all meant to be responsible, we are driving vehicles that can cause injury or death, space is limited on the roads, but lets not make it the same for basic common sense?
What about all those people who have a Child On Board sign in the window, but don't have a child in the car.
[quote][p][bold]jvoodoo[/bold] wrote: The whole side of driving and the standards that we experience these days are unacceptable, Right from the start, learner drivers need to be made aware of bad weather conditions and even the dark! PUT YOUR LIGHTS ON! The same goes for those 'people' who have child on board in the window, choose to speed, fail to indicate,drive like morons, and yet if you was to make an error whilst driving, whoa betide you! They are the 1st to scream at you 'I have achild on board!' well so bloody what! notice in the window or not changes nothing! we are all meant to be responsible, we are driving vehicles that can cause injury or death, space is limited on the roads, but lets not make it the same for basic common sense?[/p][/quote]What about all those people who have a Child On Board sign in the window, but don't have a child in the car. Nebs

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