Council wins injunction against 1000 car cruise (From Echo)

What does this injunction cover? Surely they cant stop people visiting the town. If the cars are legal, they are allowed to travel wherever they want...

they'll just turn up on Sunday instead.....

SBC will likely close some of the routes, seen it doen before when they directed people back around the roundabout. They also invested heavily in number plate recognition on the seafront so guessing it can be enforced.

I live in Southend and had no plans to go down there, but now I am, going to see what will happen. My car is legal and taxed and I am pretty sure its not going to deter many.

Plus I want to see Shoebury_cyclist making full use of the cycle path lol

As an ordinary motorist,with no real interest in custom cars.what is the problem
If people have a hobby let them enjoy it.If a few break the law,deal with it, but dont spoil it for everyone.

Hope the Police, get the Stingers out...

i suppose theirs nothing wrong with killing off other peoples passion when its not your own its about time the council sorted out more severe problems instead of picking all the easy targets.

itallaboutmoney wrote:
i suppose theirs nothing wrong with killing off other peoples passion when its not your own its about time the council sorted out more severe problems instead of picking all the easy targets.

You a boy racer then wiv yer suby la trudy..

I'm in two minds about it. There's nothing wrong with a public gathering, that should be a right, but, I have seen the mess these idiots leave behind, place is left looking like an explosion in a rubbish tip, and such a meeting does require resources to police, as some will inevitably drive stupidly and show off, they always do.

pendulum wrote:
I'm in two minds about it. There's nothing wrong with a public gathering, that should be a right, but, I have seen the mess these idiots leave behind, place is left looking like an explosion in a rubbish tip, and such a meeting does require resources to police, as some will inevitably drive stupidly and show off, they always do.

I can see where your coming from about the rubbish and I 100% agree but for the people who take their rubbish with them/use bins I don't think it's fair.

I was really looking forward to this cruise and to meet up with a few friends. I live in Southend and DID love it. But this has really disheartened me and made me feel quite sad and rejected from the town I live in. The injunction says "Car Cruise means a congregation of the drivers and/ or passengers of 2 or more motor vehicles (including motor cycles and quad bikes) at any time on the public highway or at any place to which the public have access within the Borough of Southend." Does this mean 2 of my friends in their cars and myself in my car can't drive to mcdonalds and park up together?

I know some people park stupidly and litter, but if this happens it should be dealt with accordingly. This happens everyday, people park on double yellow lines (including the police on the double yellows in the highstreet) and people litter everyday but by highlighting it at a car cruise and plastering it all over facebook/the echo it is just shining a bad light on the car scene and making us all look bad. There are no car enthusiasts opinions being voiced in the echo which I dont think is fair. I think by enforcing this injunction it will just make the situation and peoples attitude to SBC and Southend as a town worse.

Cosmo Spring wrote:
they'll just turn up on Sunday instead.....

The injunction lasts for a year.

Full details of the injunction here

http://www.southend.
gov.uk/news/article/
1038/injunction_gran
ted

So as long as they don't turn up in a convoy, dont speed , make excessive noise , Race, litter or perform stunts then they are not in breach of the injunction,

So, turn up singly and act civilly and within the law and there will be no problem and they can park up and chat to their mates without breaching the injunction.
All its done is to reinforce the existing laws and is large designed to prevent the antisocial behaviour.

No one is being stopped from coming to Southend, just the manner in which they (mis)behave when they get here

b.c2456 wrote:

pendulum wrote: I'm in two minds about it. There's nothing wrong with a public gathering, that should be a right, but, I have seen the mess these idiots leave behind, place is left looking like an explosion in a rubbish tip, and such a meeting does require resources to police, as some will inevitably drive stupidly and show off, they always do.

I can see where your coming from about the rubbish and I 100% agree but for the people who take their rubbish with them/use bins I don't think it's fair. I was really looking forward to this cruise and to meet up with a few friends. I live in Southend and DID love it. But this has really disheartened me and made me feel quite sad and rejected from the town I live in. The injunction says "Car Cruise means a congregation of the drivers and/ or passengers of 2 or more motor vehicles (including motor cycles and quad bikes) at any time on the public highway or at any place to which the public have access within the Borough of Southend." Does this mean 2 of my friends in their cars and myself in my car can't drive to mcdonalds and park up together? I know some people park stupidly and litter, but if this happens it should be dealt with accordingly. This happens everyday, people park on double yellow lines (including the police on the double yellows in the highstreet) and people litter everyday but by highlighting it at a car cruise and plastering it all over facebook/the echo it is just shining a bad light on the car scene and making us all look bad. There are no car enthusiasts opinions being voiced in the echo which I dont think is fair. I think by enforcing this injunction it will just make the situation and peoples attitude to SBC and Southend as a town worse.

You have missed the important bit off the definition of a cruise

The bit after you quoted which says "at which any such driver and/or passenger and/or driver and/or passenger of any other vehicle perform any of the activities set out at paragraph 2 below, so as, by such conduct, to cause any of the following:"

Which means you and your friends can quite happily turn up on the seafront for a chat , same as any time during the year as long as you don't perform any of the activities set out in Para 2.

Its nowhere near as draconian as it is being made out to be , it just gives the poers that be a fast track option to act on those who break the current laws regarding public order and the local bylaws regarding littering , noise etc.

If, however, people decide that having to behave themselves is a good enough reason not to attend then thats up to them.

I am afraid not the order is on SBC website and a part of it clearly sais

"(1) All persons are forbidden from participating in a Car Cruise within the area delineated black on a map attached to this Order at Schedule 1 "


Car Cruise means a congregation of the drivers and/ or passengers of 2 or more motor vehicles (including motor cycles and quad bikes) at any time on the public highway or at any place to which the public have access within the Borough of Southend, the boundaries of which are delineated on the map at Schedule 1 at which any such driver and/or passenger and/or driver and/or passenger of any other vehicle perform any of the activities set out at paragraph 2 below, so as, by such conduct, to cause any of the following:

http://www.southend.
gov.uk/news/article/
1038/injunction_gran
ted

Cannot understand why the Council wasted taxpayers money to get an injunction. There are already a whole multitude of laws that the Police can (and do) use to prevent misbehaviour at these types of gatherings.

In fact I think they've missed an opportunity. All the seafront traders could have done well from a few thousand extra visitors on a cold winters evening.

A little bit of thought coupled with a media message saying " you're welcome to come, but don't break the law" and a visible Police presence as a deterrent would have worked.

Anything the injunction covers is already illegal. As such, the only thing achieved with this nonsense is bundles of free advertising for the organizers of a 'called off' event.

I predict twice as many punters/puntos as might have been!

Did the organisers obtain permission to hold this event? Do they have public liability insurance covering the event?

aduksquack wrote:
Did the organisers obtain permission to hold this event? Do they have public liability insurance covering the event?

Shoebury cyclist - do I need public liability insurance to park a car?

Basically what is says is you can't convoy in but if you behave responsibly then you are not in breach of the injunction - so the event can still go ahead

But the Echo which has an agenda against such events has once again sensationalised it.

Ivadda Goodhump wrote:
Cannot understand why the Council wasted taxpayers money to get an injunction. There are already a whole multitude of laws that the Police can (and do) use to prevent misbehaviour at these types of gatherings. In fact I think they've missed an opportunity. All the seafront traders could have done well from a few thousand extra visitors on a cold winters evening. A little bit of thought coupled with a media message saying " you're welcome to come, but don't break the law" and a visible Police presence as a deterrent would have worked.

A number of the issues covered by the injunction are part of the by laws and as such are not enforceable by police, by getting them and Road traffic act violations under an injunction all of the offences can be dealt with by the police and processed through the system in one quick and easy process.

It will discourage antisocial behaviour and is unlikely to cost much more than the cleanup afterwards would have done anyway.

I think we should stop all the drivers and passengers then blood let them to collect dna and enrol them on to the police state database how could they think of driving to southend in there legal cars (stupid if they are not) come on southend really flex some muscle who wants the money from these people in our town and from the people who turn up to watch

Noteworthy wrote:

aduksquack wrote:
Did the organisers obtain permission to hold this event? Do they have public liability insurance covering the event?

Shoebury cyclist - do I need public liability insurance to park a car?

Don't know why you're asking me.

You don't need PLI to park a car, you do need Event Insurance to hold an 'event' in a public place.

http://www.eventorga
nisersguide.co.uk/ev
ent-insurance.aspx

Firestormgjc wrote:
Full details of the injunction here

http://www.southend.

gov.uk/news/article/

1038/injunction_gran

ted

So as long as they don't turn up in a convoy, dont speed , make excessive noise , Race, litter or perform stunts then they are not in breach of the injunction,

So, turn up singly and act civilly and within the law and there will be no problem and they can park up and chat to their mates without breaching the injunction.
All its done is to reinforce the existing laws and is large designed to prevent the antisocial behaviour.

No one is being stopped from coming to Southend, just the manner in which they (mis)behave when they get here

That's exactly as I understand it. Hope it goes ahead

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Cosmo Spring wrote:
they'll just turn up on Sunday instead.....

The injunction lasts for a year.

So I guess the charity motorbike run and taxi convoys are off this year?

What a pathetic council this is - Clearly there is an opportunity to actually drive some of the public into what is pretty much a ghost town from the months of November - April. Even if there were 1,000 cars arriving, surely enforcing pay and display @ £1.50 -£4.00 a throw, would bring some much needed revenue into the coffers.

I wonder what a freedom of information request would show with regard to local complaints during these 'cruises' and how many people were actually prosecuted for breaking the law? I bet your average night outside any of the clubs or bars in Southend bring more police call outs

Then again that prat Shoebury_Cyclist will no doubt be making full use of the facilities down there

I don't think these cruises contribute anything to the local economy, and on the last one they had I saw a car doing a doughnut in B&Q car park. The car park was empty at the time but that is not the point.There could have been cats or foxes crossing the area.

MilesBond wrote:
I don't think these cruises contribute anything to the local economy, and on the last one they had I saw a car doing a doughnut in B&Q car park. The car park was empty at the time but that is not the point.There could have been cats or foxes crossing the area.

I didn't realise there was a B&Q on the seafront - could it be that perhaps this was totally unrelated.

I drove past Basildon the other day and it smelt of **** and at the same time someone in Rayleigh ****. Now you've got me wondering if those 2 events are linked!!

Clearly you suffer from 'tooth in the brain' so please only comment on things that you actually understand, such as crayons and counting to 4.

Although you have made one good point - has anyone considered the impact on the foxes?? Jesus Christ, this is the idiocy of this country right now!

hesmrknowitall wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Cosmo Spring wrote:
they'll just turn up on Sunday instead.....

The injunction lasts for a year.

So I guess the charity motorbike run and taxi convoys are off this year?

What a pathetic council this is - Clearly there is an opportunity to actually drive some of the public into what is pretty much a ghost town from the months of November - April. Even if there were 1,000 cars arriving, surely enforcing pay and display @ £1.50 -£4.00 a throw, would bring some much needed revenue into the coffers.

I wonder what a freedom of information request would show with regard to local complaints during these 'cruises' and how many people were actually prosecuted for breaking the law? I bet your average night outside any of the clubs or bars in Southend bring more police call outs

Then again that prat Shoebury_Cyclist will no doubt be making full use of the facilities down there

If the cruise was for a good cause, was properly contributing, was properly organised in the same way as the Taxi run and the Ace Cafe motorcycle event, I doubt anyone would have a problem with it.

hesmrknowitall wrote:

MilesBond wrote:
I don't think these cruises contribute anything to the local economy, and on the last one they had I saw a car doing a doughnut in B&Q car park. The car park was empty at the time but that is not the point.There could have been cats or foxes crossing the area.

I didn't realise there was a B&Q on the seafront - could it be that perhaps this was totally unrelated.

I drove past Basildon the other day and it smelt of **** and at the same time someone in Rayleigh ****. Now you've got me wondering if those 2 events are linked!!

Clearly you suffer from 'tooth in the brain' so please only comment on things that you actually understand, such as crayons and counting to 4.

Although you have made one good point - has anyone considered the impact on the foxes?? Jesus Christ, this is the idiocy of this country right now!

Shame, just think of the revenue some 2000 plus people will bring to the town. I was hoping to be there with my kebab van doing a roaring trade in horsemeat and king skin rizlas. Still they make there own doughnuts I believe in B&Q. There are no teeth in my horsemeat

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

hesmrknowitall wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Cosmo Spring wrote:
they'll just turn up on Sunday instead.....

The injunction lasts for a year.

So I guess the charity motorbike run and taxi convoys are off this year?

What a pathetic council this is - Clearly there is an opportunity to actually drive some of the public into what is pretty much a ghost town from the months of November - April. Even if there were 1,000 cars arriving, surely enforcing pay and display @ £1.50 -£4.00 a throw, would bring some much needed revenue into the coffers.

I wonder what a freedom of information request would show with regard to local complaints during these 'cruises' and how many people were actually prosecuted for breaking the law? I bet your average night outside any of the clubs or bars in Southend bring more police call outs

Then again that prat Shoebury_Cyclist will no doubt be making full use of the facilities down there

If the cruise was for a good cause, was properly contributing, was properly organised in the same way as the Taxi run and the Ace Cafe motorcycle event, I doubt anyone would have a problem with it.

Surely the injuction will mean that the Ace cafe shakedown will be banned this year.

firedog wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

hesmrknowitall wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Cosmo Spring wrote:
they'll just turn up on Sunday instead.....

The injunction lasts for a year.

So I guess the charity motorbike run and taxi convoys are off this year?

What a pathetic council this is - Clearly there is an opportunity to actually drive some of the public into what is pretty much a ghost town from the months of November - April. Even if there were 1,000 cars arriving, surely enforcing pay and display @ £1.50 -£4.00 a throw, would bring some much needed revenue into the coffers.

I wonder what a freedom of information request would show with regard to local complaints during these 'cruises' and how many people were actually prosecuted for breaking the law? I bet your average night outside any of the clubs or bars in Southend bring more police call outs

Then again that prat Shoebury_Cyclist will no doubt be making full use of the facilities down there

If the cruise was for a good cause, was properly contributing, was properly organised in the same way as the Taxi run and the Ace Cafe motorcycle event, I doubt anyone would have a problem with it.

Surely the injuction will mean that the Ace cafe shakedown will be banned this year.

The Ace Cafe shakedown is a charity event.

No, B&Q is not on the seafront but this car was obviously a breakaway from their group. (He had a row of stickers on the front wing and one of their haircuts) and a girl sat next to him laughing. It's a disused car park and a family of foxes had moved in there shortly before this and had a litter. The cubs must have been terrified.

Carnabackable wrote:

itallaboutmoney wrote:
i suppose theirs nothing wrong with killing off other peoples passion when its not your own its about time the council sorted out more severe problems instead of picking all the easy targets.

You a boy racer then wiv yer suby la trudy..

Their is a big difference between a boy racer and a car enthusiast (cruiser),if im honest ive been doing cruising for over 8 years and i know people who still go even up to the age of 40.
Some of the people do spoil it for the rest of the groups with dangerous driving but i will say that i know for a fact the seafront food/shops/arcades also get a nice boost in profits and would say it wouldnt hurt to put some more bins around.

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

firedog wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

hesmrknowitall wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Cosmo Spring wrote:
they'll just turn up on Sunday instead.....

The injunction lasts for a year.

So I guess the charity motorbike run and taxi convoys are off this year?

What a pathetic council this is - Clearly there is an opportunity to actually drive some of the public into what is pretty much a ghost town from the months of November - April. Even if there were 1,000 cars arriving, surely enforcing pay and display @ £1.50 -£4.00 a throw, would bring some much needed revenue into the coffers.

I wonder what a freedom of information request would show with regard to local complaints during these 'cruises' and how many people were actually prosecuted for breaking the law? I bet your average night outside any of the clubs or bars in Southend bring more police call outs

Then again that prat Shoebury_Cyclist will no doubt be making full use of the facilities down there

If the cruise was for a good cause, was properly contributing, was properly organised in the same way as the Taxi run and the Ace Cafe motorcycle event, I doubt anyone would have a problem with it.

Surely the injuction will mean that the Ace cafe shakedown will be banned this year.

The Ace Cafe shakedown is a charity event.

And it is properly organised with the Police & Council, it also has first aid cover.

Quite a cute move by the Council actually.

The injunction only applies to someone on who it has been served by a police officer or Officer of the Council who by their actions is doing the following:-

1. Car Cruise means a congregation of the drivers and/ or passengers of 2 or more motor vehicles (including motor cycles and quad bikes) at any time on the public highway or at any place to which the public have access within the Borough of Southend, the boundaries of which are delineated on the map at Schedule 1 at which any such driver and/or passenger and/or driver and/or passenger of any other vehicle perform any of the activities set out at paragraph 2 below, so as, by such conduct, to cause any of the following:

(i) excessive noise of any kind;
(ii) danger to other road users and pedestrians;
(iii) damage or risk of damage to any property;
(iv) litter;
(v) any nuisance to another person not participating in the Car Cruise

The activities referred to at paragraph 1, above, are:

(i) driving at excessive speed;
(ii) driving in convoy;
(iii) racing other motor vehicles (including motor cycles and quad bikes);
(iv) performing stunts in motor vehicles (including motor cycles and quad bikes);
(v) sounding horns or playing radios;
(vi) dropping litter;
(vii) shouting or swearing at, abusing or threatening or otherwise intimidating another person.

So, in other words, anyone can quite easily come to Southend drive legally and properly, park up and have a chat, admire cars, don't litter, don't play music loud enough to wake the dead, don't behave in an intolerable way to other members of the public and don't cause congestion in the town by driving around in mass convoys and afterwards leave in an proper manner. However, come to town and do anything that causes the police or council to serve the injunction on you and you then continue to act in that manner then you will not find yourself up in front of the magistrate or getting a FPN but up in front of Mrs Justice Gloster in the High Court for contempt of court; if you do then remember to take a toothbrush as contempt often results in a little custodial holiday.....

Cockle wrote:
Quite a cute move by the Council actually.

The injunction only applies to someone on who it has been served by a police officer or Officer of the Council who by their actions is doing the following:-

1. Car Cruise means a congregation of the drivers and/ or passengers of 2 or more motor vehicles (including motor cycles and quad bikes) at any time on the public highway or at any place to which the public have access within the Borough of Southend, the boundaries of which are delineated on the map at Schedule 1 at which any such driver and/or passenger and/or driver and/or passenger of any other vehicle perform any of the activities set out at paragraph 2 below, so as, by such conduct, to cause any of the following:

(i) excessive noise of any kind;
(ii) danger to other road users and pedestrians;
(iii) damage or risk of damage to any property;
(iv) litter;
(v) any nuisance to another person not participating in the Car Cruise

The activities referred to at paragraph 1, above, are:

(i) driving at excessive speed;
(ii) driving in convoy;
(iii) racing other motor vehicles (including motor cycles and quad bikes);
(iv) performing stunts in motor vehicles (including motor cycles and quad bikes);
(v) sounding horns or playing radios;
(vi) dropping litter;
(vii) shouting or swearing at, abusing or threatening or otherwise intimidating another person.

So, in other words, anyone can quite easily come to Southend drive legally and properly, park up and have a chat, admire cars, don't litter, don't play music loud enough to wake the dead, don't behave in an intolerable way to other members of the public and don't cause congestion in the town by driving around in mass convoys and afterwards leave in an proper manner. However, come to town and do anything that causes the police or council to serve the injunction on you and you then continue to act in that manner then you will not find yourself up in front of the magistrate or getting a FPN but up in front of Mrs Justice Gloster in the High Court for contempt of court; if you do then remember to take a toothbrush as contempt often results in a little custodial holiday.....

(vii) shouting or swearing at, abusing or threatening or otherwise intimidating another person.

Why can't the council get a similar injunction for the High St every Friday night.

hesmrknowitall wrote:

MilesBond wrote:
I don't think these cruises contribute anything to the local economy, and on the last one they had I saw a car doing a doughnut in B&Q car park. The car park was empty at the time but that is not the point.There could have been cats or foxes crossing the area.

I didn't realise there was a B&Q on the seafront - could it be that perhaps this was totally unrelated.

I drove past Basildon the other day and it smelt of **** and at the same time someone in Rayleigh ****. Now you've got me wondering if those 2 events are linked!!

Clearly you suffer from 'tooth in the brain' so please only comment on things that you actually understand, such as crayons and counting to 4.

Although you have made one good point - has anyone considered the impact on the foxes?? Jesus Christ, this is the idiocy of this country right now!

I agree, it is mindless that people think cars are more important than our indigenous wildlife.

Replace the word 'event' with the word 'meet' which is what these things are. Big meets.

And what about my charity event?

I will be getting in touch with Southend council and Southend police to arrange talks, and bring back the monthly LEGAL cruise.

Obviously I won't get backing from the Echo so publicity will come through other local papers. But if you support me please post on here or search for my upcoming Facebook group.

Thanks all

I would love to know how much all this has cost us the tax payer but then again what does southend council care as long as they are getting their fat cat salaries they seem hell bent on stopping anything that brings in revenue to this town airshow car meets but to name two. What is next an injunction against the sun coming out as it might bring too many people to the town.

Noteworthy
contact your local southend councillor you will be suprised how many are in support of an orgainsed cruise

I hope SBC continue to enforce this injunction vigorously and fairly across the board during the year. I am referring of course to the day trippers who come to town in the summer. Three or four families in their cars, parked together enjoying themselves with their music going, shouting and swearing at each other causing a nuisance to those nearby, and leaving all their litter behind so my Council Tax can pay for it to be cleaned up.
Does anybody know if it went ahead last night and if Shoebury Cyclist was there making use of the cycle lanes

Hi you lot . I. m 60 years olld and run a vey mildly modified car plus a moded quad bike . why cant i go and show my toys to other people with the same interests . What is your problem SBC. .

toI should drive my car backwards into a shopfront in Leigh . Maybe she was trying a burnout ! Got it wrong . I I really dont see how anybody can slag off the car enthuiiasts when people are doing yhis kihd of thing and getting away with it . As far as I understand it she reversed out of a side road onto the main rooad then gunned straiaght through a shop window

ECHO !!! Did they arrive ? What happened ? Did poeple drive cars ? Did a boy racer do a burn out ? Lots of questions no answers, but you have reported on the cancelled Easy Jet flight so thats OK ! Follow up story overdue !!!!

Here here, COME ON ECHO!!!

MilesBond wrote:
No, B&Q is not on the seafront but this car was obviously a breakaway from their group. (He had a row of stickers on the front wing and one of their haircuts) and a girl sat next to him laughing. It's a disused car park and a family of foxes had moved in there shortly before this and had a litter. The cubs must have been terrified.

I am not an advocate of these boy racer cruises. I am also not a member of the Fluffy Bunny Brigade - and your comment about "terrified cubs" is the most stupid thing I have ever read on this website, and that includes all contributions from "Rich Carol".

Eat British lamb - half a million foxes can't be wrong!

Joe Wildman-Clark wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

firedog wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

hesmrknowitall wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Cosmo Spring wrote:
they'll just turn up on Sunday instead.....

The injunction lasts for a year.

So I guess the charity motorbike run and taxi convoys are off this year?

What a pathetic council this is - Clearly there is an opportunity to actually drive some of the public into what is pretty much a ghost town from the months of November - April. Even if there were 1,000 cars arriving, surely enforcing pay and display @ £1.50 -£4.00 a throw, would bring some much needed revenue into the coffers.

I wonder what a freedom of information request would show with regard to local complaints during these 'cruises' and how many people were actually prosecuted for breaking the law? I bet your average night outside any of the clubs or bars in Southend bring more police call outs

Then again that prat Shoebury_Cyclist will no doubt be making full use of the facilities down there

If the cruise was for a good cause, was properly contributing, was properly organised in the same way as the Taxi run and the Ace Cafe motorcycle event, I doubt anyone would have a problem with it.

Surely the injuction will mean that the Ace cafe shakedown will be banned this year.

The Ace Cafe shakedown is a charity event.

And it is properly organised with the Police & Council, it also has first aid cover.

But they are still a convoy which is a direct breach of the injunction. If SBC condone this and assist in the organisation, they must also be guilty of the breach.
Just because it’s a ‘charity’ event doesn’t make any difference. They drive along my road to my annoyance.
However, I don’t want to stop them in the same way as I don’t want SBC to stop the ‘cruisers’ as I can put up with a little annoyance in order for others to enjoy themselves occasionally
Oh, and first aid cover? - big deal

The meet did go ahead in a car park in Becton, then onto Excel London, and Lakeside. Was a really good night, and by the looks of the rubbish, KFC did a excellent trade. Was about 2000 people in total.

Shame about the rubbish, it's what all the moaners wanted to hear.
Glad people were able to enjoy the meeting though

The council are absolute bastards. I dont live in Southend, but I do occasionaly go there for meets and stuff. I live in Basildon, buts its better for me to go Lakeside now, because Southend has a great idea to force out every good potential thing into its town. Think of the trade it could of got along the seafront. Oh well, goodbye Southend, hello Lakeside.