Landlords to launch Rayleigh Pubwatch to prevent violence

12:00pm Saturday 23rd February 2013 in Local News By David Trayner

TROUBLEMAKERS in Rayleigh will soon find themselves barred from every pub, bar and club in town.

Landlords, from all 10 of the town centre’s licensed premises, are launching their own Pubwatch Scheme, which will allow them to share information and prevent disorder and violence.

Adam Crane, landlord of the Travellers Joy pub and member of the new committee, is keen.

He said: “There are more premises in Rayleigh than there were 12 months ago. The town is getting busier with people eating, drinking and socialising.

“We are putting this scheme in place to try to make Rayleigh a safer place for everybody.

“If there is trouble of any sort, those responsible will be dealt with and barred from not just those premises, but all premises in Rayleigh.”

Each venue will be given radios to warn each other of troublemakers as part of the scheme, based on the town link system already operating in Southend.

The move comes after nightclub Linx opened in High Street in May and Towie star Ricky Rayment opened Bar Blanco in Eastwood Road at the end of November.

Comments (16)

12:07pm Sat 23 Feb 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Is there a lot of trouble in Rayleigh pubs then..?
Is there a lot of trouble in Rayleigh pubs then..? DogsMessInLeigh

12:11pm Sat 23 Feb 13

RICH:;CAROL says...

This scheme has been going on in Newcastle, manchester, leeds and many other citys since the 80s . Took us long enough to follow suit.
This scheme has been going on in Newcastle, manchester, leeds and many other citys since the 80s . Took us long enough to follow suit. RICH:;CAROL

12:33pm Sat 23 Feb 13

supermadmax says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Is there a lot of trouble in Rayleigh pubs then..?
Yes, small town syndrome I call it. There are many 'big' fishes in a small pond out to prove themselves.

Rayleigh has has problems for years in pubs, around the railway station & high street especially. A lot of the youth (well up to their 40's!) dont like outsiders from London, Southend or elsewhere coming to their manor & showing 'disrespect'. Most of the violence involves an non local against a group of locals.

Despite being larger (& more advanced!) Southend does not get same amount of fights on a typical weekend as Rayleigh does. I imagine because southend are use to people form different towns coming in for a good time, which is not the case with Rayleigh with the exception of one to two night spots.
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Is there a lot of trouble in Rayleigh pubs then..?[/p][/quote]Yes, small town syndrome I call it. There are many 'big' fishes in a small pond out to prove themselves. Rayleigh has has problems for years in pubs, around the railway station & high street especially. A lot of the youth (well up to their 40's!) dont like outsiders from London, Southend or elsewhere coming to their manor & showing 'disrespect'. Most of the violence involves an non local against a group of locals. Despite being larger (& more advanced!) Southend does not get same amount of fights on a typical weekend as Rayleigh does. I imagine because southend are use to people form different towns coming in for a good time, which is not the case with Rayleigh with the exception of one to two night spots. supermadmax

1:16pm Sat 23 Feb 13

John T Pharro says...

supermadmax wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Is there a lot of trouble in Rayleigh pubs then..?
Yes, small town syndrome I call it. There are many 'big' fishes in a small pond out to prove themselves.

Rayleigh has has problems for years in pubs, around the railway station & high street especially. A lot of the youth (well up to their 40's!) dont like outsiders from London, Southend or elsewhere coming to their manor & showing 'disrespect'. Most of the violence involves an non local against a group of locals.

Despite being larger (& more advanced!) Southend does not get same amount of fights on a typical weekend as Rayleigh does. I imagine because southend are use to people form different towns coming in for a good time, which is not the case with Rayleigh with the exception of one to two night spots.
Shock, horror surely not this sort of trouble in Rayleigh? There are some people who live in Rayleigh who believe that sort of thing only happens on Canvey and are all too quick to say so. Maybe they will admit trouble like this happens everywhere.
[quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Is there a lot of trouble in Rayleigh pubs then..?[/p][/quote]Yes, small town syndrome I call it. There are many 'big' fishes in a small pond out to prove themselves. Rayleigh has has problems for years in pubs, around the railway station & high street especially. A lot of the youth (well up to their 40's!) dont like outsiders from London, Southend or elsewhere coming to their manor & showing 'disrespect'. Most of the violence involves an non local against a group of locals. Despite being larger (& more advanced!) Southend does not get same amount of fights on a typical weekend as Rayleigh does. I imagine because southend are use to people form different towns coming in for a good time, which is not the case with Rayleigh with the exception of one to two night spots.[/p][/quote]Shock, horror surely not this sort of trouble in Rayleigh? There are some people who live in Rayleigh who believe that sort of thing only happens on Canvey and are all too quick to say so. Maybe they will admit trouble like this happens everywhere. John T Pharro

1:59pm Sat 23 Feb 13

xxxdave says...

Oh my god!. there are still area's that are still not using this service, no wonder this town is still unsafe.....

Why has the local police not got involved years ago with this matter of ASB?. Um Essex police letting the general public down yet again.

Good luck to all that have signed up to join this venture, I hope the police and local councilors attend their area Pubwatch meetings....

I will say it has helped in other towns locally.
Oh my god!. there are still area's that are still not using this service, no wonder this town is still unsafe..... Why has the local police not got involved years ago with this matter of ASB?. Um Essex police letting the general public down yet again. Good luck to all that have signed up to join this venture, I hope the police and local councilors attend their area Pubwatch meetings.... I will say it has helped in other towns locally. xxxdave

3:39pm Sat 23 Feb 13

pembury53 says...

supermadmax wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Is there a lot of trouble in Rayleigh pubs then..?
Yes, small town syndrome I call it. There are many 'big' fishes in a small pond out to prove themselves.

Rayleigh has has problems for years in pubs, around the railway station & high street especially. A lot of the youth (well up to their 40's!) dont like outsiders from London, Southend or elsewhere coming to their manor & showing 'disrespect'. Most of the violence involves an non local against a group of locals.

Despite being larger (& more advanced!) Southend does not get same amount of fights on a typical weekend as Rayleigh does. I imagine because southend are use to people form different towns coming in for a good time, which is not the case with Rayleigh with the exception of one to two night spots.
Similar thing in Rochford...... you walk in a pub there and its like the scene from american werewolf in london........ your quite right, there's definately a problem with 'small town mentality' not liking non locals......
[quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Is there a lot of trouble in Rayleigh pubs then..?[/p][/quote]Yes, small town syndrome I call it. There are many 'big' fishes in a small pond out to prove themselves. Rayleigh has has problems for years in pubs, around the railway station & high street especially. A lot of the youth (well up to their 40's!) dont like outsiders from London, Southend or elsewhere coming to their manor & showing 'disrespect'. Most of the violence involves an non local against a group of locals. Despite being larger (& more advanced!) Southend does not get same amount of fights on a typical weekend as Rayleigh does. I imagine because southend are use to people form different towns coming in for a good time, which is not the case with Rayleigh with the exception of one to two night spots.[/p][/quote]Similar thing in Rochford...... you walk in a pub there and its like the scene from american werewolf in london........ your quite right, there's definately a problem with 'small town mentality' not liking non locals...... pembury53

2:56am Sun 24 Feb 13

merrows says...

It is unlikely that the scheme is legal.
It is unlikely that the scheme is legal. merrows

11:00am Sun 24 Feb 13

RICH:;CAROL says...

merrows wrote:
It is unlikely that the scheme is legal.
Its run by the council and police ! 100% legal and sensible.
[quote][p][bold]merrows[/bold] wrote: It is unlikely that the scheme is legal.[/p][/quote]Its run by the council and police ! 100% legal and sensible. RICH:;CAROL

11:35am Sun 24 Feb 13

barneydrop says...

The town must be one of the most overcrowded with pubs (although the White Hart sh**hole has been closed again) and now two clubs plus a so-called wine bar. People are coming from nearby areas and causing all sorts of trouble after the Linx closes in the evening.
There is now the Bar Blanco in Eastwood Road, while the Spread Eagle has a late licence.
Don't forget it wasn't that long ago that 'Class A' drugs were found at the Travellers Joy!
The town is not a safe place to be at the weekend.
More so because scumbag parents allow their teenage siblings out late. It's about time the local businesses got together as the police will do nothing, I believe shut up shop around 10pm.
The town must be one of the most overcrowded with pubs (although the White Hart sh**hole has been closed again) and now two clubs plus a so-called wine bar. People are coming from nearby areas and causing all sorts of trouble after the Linx closes in the evening. There is now the Bar Blanco in Eastwood Road, while the Spread Eagle has a late licence. Don't forget it wasn't that long ago that 'Class A' drugs were found at the Travellers Joy! The town is not a safe place to be at the weekend. More so because scumbag parents allow their teenage siblings out late. It's about time the local businesses got together as the police will do nothing, I believe shut up shop around 10pm. barneydrop

1:22pm Sun 24 Feb 13

uncle_jarvis says...

supermadmax wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Is there a lot of trouble in Rayleigh pubs then..?
Yes, small town syndrome I call it. There are many 'big' fishes in a small pond out to prove themselves.

Rayleigh has has problems for years in pubs, around the railway station & high street especially. A lot of the youth (well up to their 40's!) dont like outsiders from London, Southend or elsewhere coming to their manor & showing 'disrespect'. Most of the violence involves an non local against a group of locals.

Despite being larger (& more advanced!) Southend does not get same amount of fights on a typical weekend as Rayleigh does. I imagine because southend are use to people form different towns coming in for a good time, which is not the case with Rayleigh with the exception of one to two night spots.
"Despite being larger (& more advanced!) Southend does not get same amount of fights on a typical weekend as Rayleigh does"

Rayleigh has some new bars so it's obviously going to get more trouble, but to say it gets more than southend on a typical weekend is, in my opinion, just wrong.
[quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Is there a lot of trouble in Rayleigh pubs then..?[/p][/quote]Yes, small town syndrome I call it. There are many 'big' fishes in a small pond out to prove themselves. Rayleigh has has problems for years in pubs, around the railway station & high street especially. A lot of the youth (well up to their 40's!) dont like outsiders from London, Southend or elsewhere coming to their manor & showing 'disrespect'. Most of the violence involves an non local against a group of locals. Despite being larger (& more advanced!) Southend does not get same amount of fights on a typical weekend as Rayleigh does. I imagine because southend are use to people form different towns coming in for a good time, which is not the case with Rayleigh with the exception of one to two night spots.[/p][/quote]"Despite being larger (& more advanced!) Southend does not get same amount of fights on a typical weekend as Rayleigh does" Rayleigh has some new bars so it's obviously going to get more trouble, but to say it gets more than southend on a typical weekend is, in my opinion, just wrong. uncle_jarvis

2:09pm Sun 24 Feb 13

asbo in a coma says...

but i thought rayleigh was the jewell in the crown? implement this scheme and there'll be no customers.
but i thought rayleigh was the jewell in the crown? implement this scheme and there'll be no customers. asbo in a coma

2:29pm Sun 24 Feb 13

Letmetryagain says...

Sounds like another five minute wonder ?




BSQ
Sounds like another five minute wonder ? BSQ Letmetryagain

4:50pm Sun 24 Feb 13

Carnabackable says...

It's something brought in by the Pubs, through request, to distance themselves, from Lynx and Bar Blanco, where trouble has been occurring from the departing drunken yobs, god help the residents of those flats above Blanco, it must be hell Friday and Sat night......
Though I must say, 50 yards down from the windmill, it's all quiet, on the Western Front
It's something brought in by the Pubs, through request, to distance themselves, from Lynx and Bar Blanco, where trouble has been occurring from the departing drunken yobs, god help the residents of those flats above Blanco, it must be hell Friday and Sat night...... Though I must say, 50 yards down from the windmill, it's all quiet, on the Western Front Carnabackable

9:18pm Sun 24 Feb 13

Devils Advocate says...

Rayleigh pubs look to be cold, desolate places if they start banning the local trouble makers. Isn't that the populace of Rayleigh?
(Just a little shot across the bows after all the playful ribbing us Basildonians get!)
Rayleigh pubs look to be cold, desolate places if they start banning the local trouble makers. Isn't that the populace of Rayleigh? (Just a little shot across the bows after all the playful ribbing us Basildonians get!) Devils Advocate

8:33am Mon 25 Feb 13

smiffy1980 says...

barneydrop wrote:
The town must be one of the most overcrowded with pubs (although the White Hart sh**hole has been closed again) and now two clubs plus a so-called wine bar. People are coming from nearby areas and causing all sorts of trouble after the Linx closes in the evening. There is now the Bar Blanco in Eastwood Road, while the Spread Eagle has a late licence. Don't forget it wasn't that long ago that 'Class A' drugs were found at the Travellers Joy! The town is not a safe place to be at the weekend. More so because scumbag parents allow their teenage siblings out late. It's about time the local businesses got together as the police will do nothing, I believe shut up shop around 10pm.
Are you for real? shut up shop around 10pm lol. Not even worth a comment.

White Hart is shut down for a refurb. When it opens it will have a Prezzo attached to it.

Rayleighs problem is, and always has been, is DRUGS. Been that way since the late 90s and the fact you have shed loads of teenage abso's high and drunk on alchopops over in Websters way doesnt help matters either.
[quote][p][bold]barneydrop[/bold] wrote: The town must be one of the most overcrowded with pubs (although the White Hart sh**hole has been closed again) and now two clubs plus a so-called wine bar. People are coming from nearby areas and causing all sorts of trouble after the Linx closes in the evening. There is now the Bar Blanco in Eastwood Road, while the Spread Eagle has a late licence. Don't forget it wasn't that long ago that 'Class A' drugs were found at the Travellers Joy! The town is not a safe place to be at the weekend. More so because scumbag parents allow their teenage siblings out late. It's about time the local businesses got together as the police will do nothing, I believe shut up shop around 10pm.[/p][/quote]Are you for real? shut up shop around 10pm lol. Not even worth a comment. White Hart is shut down for a refurb. When it opens it will have a Prezzo attached to it. Rayleighs problem is, and always has been, is DRUGS. Been that way since the late 90s and the fact you have shed loads of teenage abso's high and drunk on alchopops over in Websters way doesnt help matters either. smiffy1980

3:48am Tue 26 Feb 13

??????????? says...

Firstly, Maybe this scheme isn't being introduced to stop the violence that occurs but has the more apparent idea of preventing crime and disorder before it gets to the stage of violence.

Secondly the comment about 'class a drugs being found in the Travellers Joy'. Lets look at the reality, every single pub will have traces of class a drugs, it's almost impossible to eradicate completely.

Also bearing in mind this was well over 18 months ago which since then has seen a new manager who has revived the family friendly atmosphere within the pub and tackled the issues head on.

The pub watch scheme is 100% legal contrary to the ridiculous statement above.

Rayleigh is becoming a popular place to visit and this scheme will only bring a safer environment for everyone.

There will be a drastic fall in drug use when people start to realize that when they get barred from one place they will be barred from everywhere in Rayleigh. The risk won't be worth it when they find they can't enjoy a night out on their doorstep without paying extras for cab fares and trains fares to get to Southend and further afield for a night out.

Furthermore the comment which suggests this is being introduced so the pubs can distant themselves from the likes of Linx and bar blanco seems ridiculous seeing as all licensed premises are involved working together, it seems as if the pubs seem more than happy to work hand in hand with each other to prevent disorder and crime.
Firstly, Maybe this scheme isn't being introduced to stop the violence that occurs but has the more apparent idea of preventing crime and disorder before it gets to the stage of violence. Secondly the comment about 'class a drugs being found in the Travellers Joy'. Lets look at the reality, every single pub will have traces of class a drugs, it's almost impossible to eradicate completely. Also bearing in mind this was well over 18 months ago which since then has seen a new manager who has revived the family friendly atmosphere within the pub and tackled the issues head on. The pub watch scheme is 100% legal contrary to the ridiculous statement above. Rayleigh is becoming a popular place to visit and this scheme will only bring a safer environment for everyone. There will be a drastic fall in drug use when people start to realize that when they get barred from one place they will be barred from everywhere in Rayleigh. The risk won't be worth it when they find they can't enjoy a night out on their doorstep without paying extras for cab fares and trains fares to get to Southend and further afield for a night out. Furthermore the comment which suggests this is being introduced so the pubs can distant themselves from the likes of Linx and bar blanco seems ridiculous seeing as all licensed premises are involved working together, it seems as if the pubs seem more than happy to work hand in hand with each other to prevent disorder and crime. ???????????

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