Tenant's legal bid to keep hold of garden

Dispute - ground floor flat owner Cary Gill, Ola Dinah with freeholder Gary McCarthy

Dispute - ground floor flat owner Cary Gill, Ola Dinah with freeholder Gary McCarthy

First published in Local News

ATENANT is fighting to keep part of a garden he has used for the past 14 years.

CaryGill, 39, lives in a groundfloor flat in St Mary’s Road, Southend, and won’t give up the land despite the fear he could be taken to court.

Swan Housing, which owns Mr Gill’s flat and is freeholder of the land, wants to split the garden in two to allow access for a tenant in the flat above.

However, Mr Gill is refusing to budge and has gone to the land registry using a law which says someone can keep land if they have had it for 12 years without objection.

Until the decision is made, Mr Gill is refusing to allow anyone on to the land and yesterday would not let workmen in to measure the garden for a fence.

He said: “I’ve been here for 14 years so I have a right to it under adverse possession laws.

“The decision hasn’t been made yet, but even if it goes against me they still have to get a court order to evict me.

“They are not waiting for that and are just trying to come here without a court order.

“They are just trying to bully me, but if the police are called I will show them they have no court order so can’t evict me from the land.”

Gary McCarthy is the freeholder of the property and owns the upstairs flat.

He said: “It’s nonsense to say no one has objected to him using the whole garden. I’ve been complaining to Swan for years, but nothing gets done.

“Land registry clearly shows a barrier in the middle of the garden.

“We just want to establish that. The chap in the upstairs flat has a dog and would like to use his part of the garden.”

A spokesman for Swan Housing Association said: “We have been working with the resident on this issue for a number of years.

“The garden in question is, and always has been, for shared use with the first floor flat.

“We are committed to working with all residents to resolve this issue as soon as possible.”

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7:25am Mon 31 Mar 14

abd123 says...

I think he will find the adverse possession laws were changed and the land does not become his until the Land Registry writes to to the freeholder and asks if they object. If they object it does not gain possession. This was to take account of the human rights law that the freeholder was entitled to his possessions. Many gardens are split like this between upstairs and downstairs flats.
I think he will find the adverse possession laws were changed and the land does not become his until the Land Registry writes to to the freeholder and asks if they object. If they object it does not gain possession. This was to take account of the human rights law that the freeholder was entitled to his possessions. Many gardens are split like this between upstairs and downstairs flats. abd123
  • Score: 43

7:40am Mon 31 Mar 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

I wonder how many high rise flats, have gardens ? NONE, time to revoke Gill's garden, and let the real owner have it all.
I wonder how many high rise flats, have gardens ? NONE, time to revoke Gill's garden, and let the real owner have it all. carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: 33

8:26am Mon 31 Mar 14

Happy Chickie says...

Not like he has made this garden an oasis, looks more like a tip.
Not like he has made this garden an oasis, looks more like a tip. Happy Chickie
  • Score: 49

8:56am Mon 31 Mar 14

DutchCyclist says...

Looks like a cocky Jack Russell protecting his garden with 2 bull-mastiffs looking in.
Looks like a cocky Jack Russell protecting his garden with 2 bull-mastiffs looking in. DutchCyclist
  • Score: 29

9:07am Mon 31 Mar 14

beejiu says...

Hold on? So this flat is somebody else's an he's just renting it? In that case, there's no problem: he can go find somewhere else to live.
Hold on? So this flat is somebody else's an he's just renting it? In that case, there's no problem: he can go find somewhere else to live. beejiu
  • Score: 64

9:38am Mon 31 Mar 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for.
and it is a funny photo.
(hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)
Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for. and it is a funny photo. (hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo) DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 52

10:16am Mon 31 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for.
and it is a funny photo.
(hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)
How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet?

Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for. and it is a funny photo. (hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)[/p][/quote]How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet? Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy ThisYear
  • Score: -42

11:01am Mon 31 Mar 14

Rachie says...

ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for.
and it is a funny photo.
(hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)
How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet?

Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy
Its simply not his garden because he doesn't own the property he lives in.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for. and it is a funny photo. (hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)[/p][/quote]How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet? Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy[/p][/quote]Its simply not his garden because he doesn't own the property he lives in. Rachie
  • Score: 34

11:03am Mon 31 Mar 14

TowerBlockDreams says...

Could not agree more with the above comments, the day he wants to give up his taxpayer subsidized home and buy his own land is the day he can complain - until then landlord rules!
Could not agree more with the above comments, the day he wants to give up his taxpayer subsidized home and buy his own land is the day he can complain - until then landlord rules! TowerBlockDreams
  • Score: 43

11:36am Mon 31 Mar 14

Nebs says...

The upstairs tenant should let his dog run about in his half of the garden.
The upstairs tenant should let his dog run about in his half of the garden. Nebs
  • Score: 25

11:39am Mon 31 Mar 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for.
and it is a funny photo.
(hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)
How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet?

Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy
Ohhh here we go bang on time.....the man with the Midas touch but in reverse, the topic killer, the thread de-railer extraordinare, the Big chip on little shoulder.
its a Housing association flat...that means that the tennant does not own it or the land with it, you really need to sharpen up as i said before.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for. and it is a funny photo. (hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)[/p][/quote]How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet? Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy[/p][/quote]Ohhh here we go bang on time.....the man with the Midas touch but in reverse, the topic killer, the thread de-railer extraordinare, the Big chip on little shoulder. its a Housing association flat...that means that the tennant does not own it or the land with it, you really need to sharpen up as i said before. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 20

12:08pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Vange Resident says...

Surely the key word here is TENENT, not owner! So he does not have a choice?
Surely the key word here is TENENT, not owner! So he does not have a choice? Vange Resident
  • Score: 28

12:29pm Mon 31 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

Rachie wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for.
and it is a funny photo.
(hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)
How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet?

Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy
Its simply not his garden because he doesn't own the property he lives in.
Has anyone other than you made any reference to he OWN the property?

If he rents the apartment and the land came with it then its his to use...if he has been using it for 14 years and the landlords have accepted that then he has a case..
[quote][p][bold]Rachie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for. and it is a funny photo. (hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)[/p][/quote]How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet? Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy[/p][/quote]Its simply not his garden because he doesn't own the property he lives in.[/p][/quote]Has anyone other than you made any reference to he OWN the property? If he rents the apartment and the land came with it then its his to use...if he has been using it for 14 years and the landlords have accepted that then he has a case.. ThisYear
  • Score: -25

12:36pm Mon 31 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for.
and it is a funny photo.
(hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)
How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet?

Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy
Ohhh here we go bang on time.....the man with the Midas touch but in reverse, the topic killer, the thread de-railer extraordinare, the Big chip on little shoulder.
its a Housing association flat...that means that the tennant does not own it or the land with it, you really need to sharpen up as i said before.
You seem to have forgotten you had already replied to my post..2hrs later you reply again ignorantly unaware you had already replied..poor chap..

You seem to be of the mind that you have read somewhere that he claims he owns the garden rather than he owns the use of it..it really is telling that you dont know you have replied before and then advise others to 'sharpen up'

Threads get derailed by those who opinions on the multi-cultural country we live in post their dislike of that rather than just leaving for different climes.

Others get censored for their racial contents..you've been censored just later haven't you?

The Echo has a duty to remove and ban all criminal posts and posters..

Do you feel you are hanging on by the skin of your teeth? Re: your censoring?
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for. and it is a funny photo. (hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)[/p][/quote]How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet? Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy[/p][/quote]Ohhh here we go bang on time.....the man with the Midas touch but in reverse, the topic killer, the thread de-railer extraordinare, the Big chip on little shoulder. its a Housing association flat...that means that the tennant does not own it or the land with it, you really need to sharpen up as i said before.[/p][/quote]You seem to have forgotten you had already replied to my post..2hrs later you reply again ignorantly unaware you had already replied..poor chap.. You seem to be of the mind that you have read somewhere that he claims he owns the garden rather than he owns the use of it..it really is telling that you dont know you have replied before and then advise others to 'sharpen up' Threads get derailed by those who opinions on the multi-cultural country we live in post their dislike of that rather than just leaving for different climes. Others get censored for their racial contents..you've been censored just later haven't you? The Echo has a duty to remove and ban all criminal posts and posters.. Do you feel you are hanging on by the skin of your teeth? Re: your censoring? ThisYear
  • Score: -17

12:38pm Mon 31 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

Rachie wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for.
and it is a funny photo.
(hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)
How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet?

Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy
Its simply not his garden because he doesn't own the property he lives in.
It is his for the usage of..
[quote][p][bold]Rachie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for. and it is a funny photo. (hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)[/p][/quote]How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet? Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy[/p][/quote]Its simply not his garden because he doesn't own the property he lives in.[/p][/quote]It is his for the usage of.. ThisYear
  • Score: -20

12:40pm Mon 31 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

TowerBlockDreams wrote:
Could not agree more with the above comments, the day he wants to give up his taxpayer subsidized home and buy his own land is the day he can complain - until then landlord rules!
Does he not subsidise his home too?

If so Isn't the 'subsidized' comment irelevent?
[quote][p][bold]TowerBlockDreams[/bold] wrote: Could not agree more with the above comments, the day he wants to give up his taxpayer subsidized home and buy his own land is the day he can complain - until then landlord rules![/p][/quote]Does he not subsidise his home too? If so Isn't the 'subsidized' comment irelevent? ThisYear
  • Score: -22

12:41pm Mon 31 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

Vange Resident wrote:
Surely the key word here is TENENT, not owner! So he does not have a choice?
Of course he does, and he seems to be practising that choice to good effect.
[quote][p][bold]Vange Resident[/bold] wrote: Surely the key word here is TENENT, not owner! So he does not have a choice?[/p][/quote]Of course he does, and he seems to be practising that choice to good effect. ThisYear
  • Score: -24

12:45pm Mon 31 Mar 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

a cure for insomnia.
a cure for insomnia. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 6

2:07pm Mon 31 Mar 14

MrsM1980 says...

Just joined up so I could ask what it is with Kim Gandy, for those of us that sit in the background and just view comments. Is Kim a relation of mr Gandy UKIP ? Thanks in advance x
Just joined up so I could ask what it is with Kim Gandy, for those of us that sit in the background and just view comments. Is Kim a relation of mr Gandy UKIP ? Thanks in advance x MrsM1980
  • Score: 3

2:25pm Mon 31 Mar 14

profondo asbo says...

send in the tanks. is there any difference between 50% of zero and 100% of zero?
send in the tanks. is there any difference between 50% of zero and 100% of zero? profondo asbo
  • Score: 6

3:07pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Feminism is Dead says...

How typical of "ThisYear" to be sticking up for people who are not budging, and claiming ownership of, land that is not theirs.
How typical of "ThisYear" to be sticking up for people who are not budging, and claiming ownership of, land that is not theirs. Feminism is Dead
  • Score: 13

4:20pm Mon 31 Mar 14

runwellian says...

ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for.
and it is a funny photo.
(hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)
How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet?

Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy
It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say!
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for. and it is a funny photo. (hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)[/p][/quote]How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet? Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy[/p][/quote]It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say! runwellian
  • Score: 16

4:20pm Mon 31 Mar 14

runwellian says...

ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for.
and it is a funny photo.
(hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)
How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet?

Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy
It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say!
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for. and it is a funny photo. (hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)[/p][/quote]How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet? Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy[/p][/quote]It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say! runwellian
  • Score: 8

4:20pm Mon 31 Mar 14

runwellian says...

ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for.
and it is a funny photo.
(hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)
How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet?

Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy
It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say!
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for. and it is a funny photo. (hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)[/p][/quote]How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet? Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy[/p][/quote]It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say! runwellian
  • Score: 7

5:53pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Living the La Vida Legra says...

Typical social housing tennant thinks he owns the house. Lol
Think again buddy
Typical social housing tennant thinks he owns the house. Lol Think again buddy Living the La Vida Legra
  • Score: 12

5:57pm Mon 31 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

Feminism is Dead wrote:
How typical of "ThisYear" to be sticking up for people who are not budging, and claiming ownership of, land that is not theirs.
How typical of you to post such rot..Can you point out anywhere where the man states he owns the flat?

If not then doesn't it go without saying he doesn't own the garden..

He is a tenant and if the garden comes with the tenancy then he has a case..does he not?

Can you point to other people I have defended who were not budging and 'claiming ownership of land that is not theirs?

If you cant, and Im sure you cant, then where does 'typical' come into it?

Like your user name, you are very wrong.
[quote][p][bold]Feminism is Dead[/bold] wrote: How typical of "ThisYear" to be sticking up for people who are not budging, and claiming ownership of, land that is not theirs.[/p][/quote]How typical of you to post such rot..Can you point out anywhere where the man states he owns the flat? If not then doesn't it go without saying he doesn't own the garden.. He is a tenant and if the garden comes with the tenancy then he has a case..does he not? Can you point to other people I have defended who were not budging and 'claiming ownership of land that is not theirs? If you cant, and Im sure you cant, then where does 'typical' come into it? Like your user name, you are very wrong. ThisYear
  • Score: -10

6:00pm Mon 31 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

runwellian wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for.
and it is a funny photo.
(hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)
How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet?

Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy
It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say!
I think you will find you're wrong...if a court says he has the right to use all the garden because of the time of usage and his tenancy agreement, then what they say will go..until the landlord deals with the tenancy.
[quote][p][bold]runwellian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for. and it is a funny photo. (hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)[/p][/quote]How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet? Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy[/p][/quote]It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say![/p][/quote]I think you will find you're wrong...if a court says he has the right to use all the garden because of the time of usage and his tenancy agreement, then what they say will go..until the landlord deals with the tenancy. ThisYear
  • Score: -8

6:11pm Mon 31 Mar 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

ThisYear wrote:
runwellian wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for.
and it is a funny photo.
(hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)
How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet?

Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy
It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say!
I think you will find you're wrong...if a court says he has the right to use all the garden because of the time of usage and his tenancy agreement, then what they say will go..until the landlord deals with the tenancy.
suppose he could barricade himself in in with gas bottles and scaffolding if it comes to it.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]runwellian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for. and it is a funny photo. (hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)[/p][/quote]How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet? Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy[/p][/quote]It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say![/p][/quote]I think you will find you're wrong...if a court says he has the right to use all the garden because of the time of usage and his tenancy agreement, then what they say will go..until the landlord deals with the tenancy.[/p][/quote]suppose he could barricade himself in in with gas bottles and scaffolding if it comes to it. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 8

6:25pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Lesley says...

If he has an AST, the landlord can just give him notice to leave. Then he can find a flat that has a big garden or buy a house.
If he has an AST, the landlord can just give him notice to leave. Then he can find a flat that has a big garden or buy a house. Lesley
  • Score: 10

8:31pm Mon 31 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
runwellian wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for.
and it is a funny photo.
(hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)
How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet?

Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy
It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say!
I think you will find you're wrong...if a court says he has the right to use all the garden because of the time of usage and his tenancy agreement, then what they say will go..until the landlord deals with the tenancy.
suppose he could barricade himself in in with gas bottles and scaffolding if it comes to it.
If it comes to it...not very likely is it..but I suppose anything is possible in your little pea brain.

Any comment on the mans right to claim land he has used for 14 years peabrain?
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]runwellian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for. and it is a funny photo. (hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)[/p][/quote]How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet? Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy[/p][/quote]It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say![/p][/quote]I think you will find you're wrong...if a court says he has the right to use all the garden because of the time of usage and his tenancy agreement, then what they say will go..until the landlord deals with the tenancy.[/p][/quote]suppose he could barricade himself in in with gas bottles and scaffolding if it comes to it.[/p][/quote]If it comes to it...not very likely is it..but I suppose anything is possible in your little pea brain. Any comment on the mans right to claim land he has used for 14 years peabrain? ThisYear
  • Score: -12

9:48pm Mon 31 Mar 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
runwellian wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for.
and it is a funny photo.
(hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)
How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet?

Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy
It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say!
I think you will find you're wrong...if a court says he has the right to use all the garden because of the time of usage and his tenancy agreement, then what they say will go..until the landlord deals with the tenancy.
suppose he could barricade himself in in with gas bottles and scaffolding if it comes to it.
If it comes to it...not very likely is it..but I suppose anything is possible in your little pea brain.

Any comment on the mans right to claim land he has used for 14 years peabrain?
Claim the land..? there you go again , he rents through an association its not his, he could be out at anytime, whats he going to do take the garden with him.? if on the off chance he did win doofus.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]runwellian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for. and it is a funny photo. (hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)[/p][/quote]How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet? Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy[/p][/quote]It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say![/p][/quote]I think you will find you're wrong...if a court says he has the right to use all the garden because of the time of usage and his tenancy agreement, then what they say will go..until the landlord deals with the tenancy.[/p][/quote]suppose he could barricade himself in in with gas bottles and scaffolding if it comes to it.[/p][/quote]If it comes to it...not very likely is it..but I suppose anything is possible in your little pea brain. Any comment on the mans right to claim land he has used for 14 years peabrain?[/p][/quote]Claim the land..? there you go again , he rents through an association its not his, he could be out at anytime, whats he going to do take the garden with him.? if on the off chance he did win doofus. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 15

10:01pm Mon 31 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
runwellian wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for.
and it is a funny photo.
(hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)
How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet?

Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy
It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say!
I think you will find you're wrong...if a court says he has the right to use all the garden because of the time of usage and his tenancy agreement, then what they say will go..until the landlord deals with the tenancy.
suppose he could barricade himself in in with gas bottles and scaffolding if it comes to it.
If it comes to it...not very likely is it..but I suppose anything is possible in your little pea brain.

Any comment on the mans right to claim land he has used for 14 years peabrain?
Claim the land..? there you go again , he rents through an association its not his, he could be out at anytime, whats he going to do take the garden with him.? if on the off chance he did win doofus.
You miss the point...he didn't have to own the land to claim it..IF it wasn't in his tenancy agreement and he had been using it for 14 years, then he MIGHT have claim to it...which seems to be the stance he is taking..try to get your pea-sized head around that nicety.

"doofus" Oh dear...brain-dead american slang.
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]runwellian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for. and it is a funny photo. (hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)[/p][/quote]How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet? Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy[/p][/quote]It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say![/p][/quote]I think you will find you're wrong...if a court says he has the right to use all the garden because of the time of usage and his tenancy agreement, then what they say will go..until the landlord deals with the tenancy.[/p][/quote]suppose he could barricade himself in in with gas bottles and scaffolding if it comes to it.[/p][/quote]If it comes to it...not very likely is it..but I suppose anything is possible in your little pea brain. Any comment on the mans right to claim land he has used for 14 years peabrain?[/p][/quote]Claim the land..? there you go again , he rents through an association its not his, he could be out at anytime, whats he going to do take the garden with him.? if on the off chance he did win doofus.[/p][/quote]You miss the point...he didn't have to own the land to claim it..IF it wasn't in his tenancy agreement and he had been using it for 14 years, then he MIGHT have claim to it...which seems to be the stance he is taking..try to get your pea-sized head around that nicety. "doofus" Oh dear...brain-dead american slang. ThisYear
  • Score: -11

10:09pm Mon 31 Mar 14

profondo asbo says...

get rid of the crapp and live with half the space. not exactly rocket science.

got eviction docs?
get rid of the crapp and live with half the space. not exactly rocket science. got eviction docs? profondo asbo
  • Score: 7

10:11pm Mon 31 Mar 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
runwellian wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for.
and it is a funny photo.
(hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)
How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet?

Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy
It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say!
I think you will find you're wrong...if a court says he has the right to use all the garden because of the time of usage and his tenancy agreement, then what they say will go..until the landlord deals with the tenancy.
suppose he could barricade himself in in with gas bottles and scaffolding if it comes to it.
If it comes to it...not very likely is it..but I suppose anything is possible in your little pea brain.

Any comment on the mans right to claim land he has used for 14 years peabrain?
Claim the land..? there you go again , he rents through an association its not his, he could be out at anytime, whats he going to do take the garden with him.? if on the off chance he did win doofus.
You miss the point...he didn't have to own the land to claim it..IF it wasn't in his tenancy agreement and he had been using it for 14 years, then he MIGHT have claim to it...which seems to be the stance he is taking..try to get your pea-sized head around that nicety.

"doofus" Oh dear...brain-dead american slang.
so what will he do with his bit of garden when he moves out then.?

read on numbnuts..

“Land registry clearly shows a barrier in the middle of the garden.

A spokesman for Swan Housing Association said: “We have been working with the resident on this issue for a number of years.

“The garden in question is, and always has been, for shared use with the first floor flat."
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]runwellian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for. and it is a funny photo. (hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)[/p][/quote]How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet? Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy[/p][/quote]It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say![/p][/quote]I think you will find you're wrong...if a court says he has the right to use all the garden because of the time of usage and his tenancy agreement, then what they say will go..until the landlord deals with the tenancy.[/p][/quote]suppose he could barricade himself in in with gas bottles and scaffolding if it comes to it.[/p][/quote]If it comes to it...not very likely is it..but I suppose anything is possible in your little pea brain. Any comment on the mans right to claim land he has used for 14 years peabrain?[/p][/quote]Claim the land..? there you go again , he rents through an association its not his, he could be out at anytime, whats he going to do take the garden with him.? if on the off chance he did win doofus.[/p][/quote]You miss the point...he didn't have to own the land to claim it..IF it wasn't in his tenancy agreement and he had been using it for 14 years, then he MIGHT have claim to it...which seems to be the stance he is taking..try to get your pea-sized head around that nicety. "doofus" Oh dear...brain-dead american slang.[/p][/quote]so what will he do with his bit of garden when he moves out then.? read on numbnuts.. “Land registry clearly shows a barrier in the middle of the garden. A spokesman for Swan Housing Association said: “We have been working with the resident on this issue for a number of years. “The garden in question is, and always has been, for shared use with the first floor flat." DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 8

12:38am Tue 1 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
runwellian wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for.
and it is a funny photo.
(hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)
How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet?

Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy
It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say!
I think you will find you're wrong...if a court says he has the right to use all the garden because of the time of usage and his tenancy agreement, then what they say will go..until the landlord deals with the tenancy.
suppose he could barricade himself in in with gas bottles and scaffolding if it comes to it.
If it comes to it...not very likely is it..but I suppose anything is possible in your little pea brain.

Any comment on the mans right to claim land he has used for 14 years peabrain?
Claim the land..? there you go again , he rents through an association its not his, he could be out at anytime, whats he going to do take the garden with him.? if on the off chance he did win doofus.
You miss the point...he didn't have to own the land to claim it..IF it wasn't in his tenancy agreement and he had been using it for 14 years, then he MIGHT have claim to it...which seems to be the stance he is taking..try to get your pea-sized head around that nicety.

"doofus" Oh dear...brain-dead american slang.
so what will he do with his bit of garden when he moves out then.?

read on numbnuts..

“Land registry clearly shows a barrier in the middle of the garden.

A spokesman for Swan Housing Association said: “We have been working with the resident on this issue for a number of years.

“The garden in question is, and always has been, for shared use with the first floor flat."
IF he was given ownership of the land by a court then he would keep the land..is that so hard for you to understand...the land would be his and he would own it...he doesn't have to take it with him or carry it about his person "DER...my pea-sized head hurts"

The land registry can show what it wants...if a court decides he has rights to the land then that is what he has..

If it were such an open and shut case as your little head thinks then why has it taken so long for the HA to deal with the matter..
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]runwellian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for. and it is a funny photo. (hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)[/p][/quote]How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet? Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy[/p][/quote]It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say![/p][/quote]I think you will find you're wrong...if a court says he has the right to use all the garden because of the time of usage and his tenancy agreement, then what they say will go..until the landlord deals with the tenancy.[/p][/quote]suppose he could barricade himself in in with gas bottles and scaffolding if it comes to it.[/p][/quote]If it comes to it...not very likely is it..but I suppose anything is possible in your little pea brain. Any comment on the mans right to claim land he has used for 14 years peabrain?[/p][/quote]Claim the land..? there you go again , he rents through an association its not his, he could be out at anytime, whats he going to do take the garden with him.? if on the off chance he did win doofus.[/p][/quote]You miss the point...he didn't have to own the land to claim it..IF it wasn't in his tenancy agreement and he had been using it for 14 years, then he MIGHT have claim to it...which seems to be the stance he is taking..try to get your pea-sized head around that nicety. "doofus" Oh dear...brain-dead american slang.[/p][/quote]so what will he do with his bit of garden when he moves out then.? read on numbnuts.. “Land registry clearly shows a barrier in the middle of the garden. A spokesman for Swan Housing Association said: “We have been working with the resident on this issue for a number of years. “The garden in question is, and always has been, for shared use with the first floor flat."[/p][/quote]IF he was given ownership of the land by a court then he would keep the land..is that so hard for you to understand...the land would be his and he would own it...he doesn't have to take it with him or carry it about his person "DER...my pea-sized head hurts" The land registry can show what it wants...if a court decides he has rights to the land then that is what he has.. If it were such an open and shut case as your little head thinks then why has it taken so long for the HA to deal with the matter.. ThisYear
  • Score: -9

8:48am Tue 1 Apr 14

profondo asbo says...

got handbags?
got handbags? profondo asbo
  • Score: 3

10:34am Tue 1 Apr 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

profondo asbo wrote:
got handbags?
Afraid not profondo....but we have a douchebag.
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: got handbags?[/p][/quote]Afraid not profondo....but we have a douchebag. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 7

2:55pm Tue 1 Apr 14

profondo asbo says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
got handbags?
Afraid not profondo....but we have a douchebag.
and a stalker by the looks of things...
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: got handbags?[/p][/quote]Afraid not profondo....but we have a douchebag.[/p][/quote]and a stalker by the looks of things... profondo asbo
  • Score: 5

8:17pm Tue 1 Apr 14

poortaxpayer says...

At the end of the day he is a mere tenant. His Landlord owns the garden and his landlord can and will decide who can use it. He is just being a complete moaning d1ck. He will lose and I hope the Judge makes him pay all the costs.
At the end of the day he is a mere tenant. His Landlord owns the garden and his landlord can and will decide who can use it. He is just being a complete moaning d1ck. He will lose and I hope the Judge makes him pay all the costs. poortaxpayer
  • Score: 5

10:49pm Tue 1 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
runwellian wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for.
and it is a funny photo.
(hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)
How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet?

Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy
It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say!
I think you will find you're wrong...if a court says he has the right to use all the garden because of the time of usage and his tenancy agreement, then what they say will go..until the landlord deals with the tenancy.
suppose he could barricade himself in in with gas bottles and scaffolding if it comes to it.
If it comes to it...not very likely is it..but I suppose anything is possible in your little pea brain.

Any comment on the mans right to claim land he has used for 14 years peabrain?
Claim the land..? there you go again , he rents through an association its not his, he could be out at anytime, whats he going to do take the garden with him.? if on the off chance he did win doofus.
You miss the point again muppet...he seems to be looking to claim the land because he has been using it for 14 years..it doesn't matter who owns it...

He isn't looking to claim the flat so who he rents off is irrelevant..'sharpen up' a bit divvy your are dense as a brick wall.

Oh dear what a clown: " take the garden with him" Why would he have to take it with him?
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]runwellian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Its not his garden, its not his flat, sounds like he is an awkward person, just give half back and be done with it after all it don't look like its well cared for. and it is a funny photo. (hope this comment is satisfactory for the Echo)[/p][/quote]How do you know its not his garden? The court hasn't made a decision yet? Perhaps thats why Echo censors your posts..Mr Kim 'im right your wrong' Gandy[/p][/quote]It is not his garden because the flat is not his, he owns nothing! The landlord owns the property and the garden no matter what any court has to say![/p][/quote]I think you will find you're wrong...if a court says he has the right to use all the garden because of the time of usage and his tenancy agreement, then what they say will go..until the landlord deals with the tenancy.[/p][/quote]suppose he could barricade himself in in with gas bottles and scaffolding if it comes to it.[/p][/quote]If it comes to it...not very likely is it..but I suppose anything is possible in your little pea brain. Any comment on the mans right to claim land he has used for 14 years peabrain?[/p][/quote]Claim the land..? there you go again , he rents through an association its not his, he could be out at anytime, whats he going to do take the garden with him.? if on the off chance he did win doofus.[/p][/quote]You miss the point again muppet...he seems to be looking to claim the land because he has been using it for 14 years..it doesn't matter who owns it... He isn't looking to claim the flat so who he rents off is irrelevant..'sharpen up' a bit divvy your are dense as a brick wall. Oh dear what a clown: " take the garden with him" Why would he have to take it with him? ThisYear
  • Score: -10

10:50pm Tue 1 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

profondo asbo wrote:
got handbags?
Im sure Dogmess has..for collecting evidence of fouling..guy probably reeks of his evidence.
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: got handbags?[/p][/quote]Im sure Dogmess has..for collecting evidence of fouling..guy probably reeks of his evidence. ThisYear
  • Score: -7

10:52pm Tue 1 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
got handbags?
Afraid not profondo....but we have a douchebag.
More american slang...bet you have a nasally whine and say elevator and sidewalk..pillock!
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: got handbags?[/p][/quote]Afraid not profondo....but we have a douchebag.[/p][/quote]More american slang...bet you have a nasally whine and say elevator and sidewalk..pillock! ThisYear
  • Score: -6

10:53pm Tue 1 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

profondo asbo wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
got handbags?
Afraid not profondo....but we have a douchebag.
and a stalker by the looks of things...
Dont be ridiculous..I've noticed you seem to be going down hill recently...get a grip.
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: got handbags?[/p][/quote]Afraid not profondo....but we have a douchebag.[/p][/quote]and a stalker by the looks of things...[/p][/quote]Dont be ridiculous..I've noticed you seem to be going down hill recently...get a grip. ThisYear
  • Score: -8

10:56pm Tue 1 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

poortaxpayer wrote:
At the end of the day he is a mere tenant. His Landlord owns the garden and his landlord can and will decide who can use it. He is just being a complete moaning d1ck. He will lose and I hope the Judge makes him pay all the costs.
if the garden has been unused by others and was partitioned off he may have a case..of course he may not...but it isn't as black and white as some think..

Why would you wish a complete stranger financial harm?
[quote][p][bold]poortaxpayer[/bold] wrote: At the end of the day he is a mere tenant. His Landlord owns the garden and his landlord can and will decide who can use it. He is just being a complete moaning d1ck. He will lose and I hope the Judge makes him pay all the costs.[/p][/quote]if the garden has been unused by others and was partitioned off he may have a case..of course he may not...but it isn't as black and white as some think.. Why would you wish a complete stranger financial harm? ThisYear
  • Score: -4

10:13am Wed 2 Apr 14

niki-loo says...

why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away!
why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away! niki-loo
  • Score: 0

11:37am Wed 2 Apr 14

poortaxpayer says...

niki-loo wrote:
why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away!
Your tenancy will make it clear if it is for your sole use or shared use. You cannot claim you own the garden like the d1ck in the story is doing - he is a complete and utter moron and I hope he is made to pay all the cost involved.
[quote][p][bold]niki-loo[/bold] wrote: why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away![/p][/quote]Your tenancy will make it clear if it is for your sole use or shared use. You cannot claim you own the garden like the d1ck in the story is doing - he is a complete and utter moron and I hope he is made to pay all the cost involved. poortaxpayer
  • Score: 3

2:25pm Wed 2 Apr 14

cg1blue says...

ThisYear wrote:
poortaxpayer wrote: At the end of the day he is a mere tenant. His Landlord owns the garden and his landlord can and will decide who can use it. He is just being a complete moaning d1ck. He will lose and I hope the Judge makes him pay all the costs.
if the garden has been unused by others and was partitioned off he may have a case..of course he may not...but it isn't as black and white as some think.. Why would you wish a complete stranger financial harm?
Actually I think most people on here object to someone getting something for nothing by using a loophole in the law.
Just a hunch, but do you also support squatters?
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]poortaxpayer[/bold] wrote: At the end of the day he is a mere tenant. His Landlord owns the garden and his landlord can and will decide who can use it. He is just being a complete moaning d1ck. He will lose and I hope the Judge makes him pay all the costs.[/p][/quote]if the garden has been unused by others and was partitioned off he may have a case..of course he may not...but it isn't as black and white as some think.. Why would you wish a complete stranger financial harm?[/p][/quote]Actually I think most people on here object to someone getting something for nothing by using a loophole in the law. Just a hunch, but do you also support squatters? cg1blue
  • Score: 5

8:25pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Tenacious says...

The easy answer to this is for the free holder to instal a separate access gate in the fence that falls on his titel deeds and then go in erect a sign on the boundary ststing ownership and who is permitted to occupy and use the area and take direct action against anyone who interfers with or trespasses on the land, object to the adverse possession claim once recieved from land registry, and take direct legal action against Mr Gill, an injunction preventing him entering upon or causing others to enter upon or interfering with the land and boundaries in any way. (not the landlord, as they have no jurisdiction over another persons land and cannot stop a tenant excercising their right to claim land under adverse possession entitlement. he isnt breaching any housing rules as it is his civil right to be abel to claim adverse possession as is everybody's.) There is a 2 year limit time in which a registered owner can respond to land notification of a persons intention to claim ownership under adverse possession rules, ie consent or object and from the date of objection they then have to take action to remove the squatter. If this is all happening within the 2 years the objection will be enough, but i cant help but wonder why the freeholder has wasted time with the landlords instead of direct legal action against Mr Gill from the moment he realised what was going on.
The easy answer to this is for the free holder to instal a separate access gate in the fence that falls on his titel deeds and then go in erect a sign on the boundary ststing ownership and who is permitted to occupy and use the area and take direct action against anyone who interfers with or trespasses on the land, object to the adverse possession claim once recieved from land registry, and take direct legal action against Mr Gill, an injunction preventing him entering upon or causing others to enter upon or interfering with the land and boundaries in any way. (not the landlord, as they have no jurisdiction over another persons land and cannot stop a tenant excercising their right to claim land under adverse possession entitlement. he isnt breaching any housing rules as it is his civil right to be abel to claim adverse possession as is everybody's.) There is a 2 year limit time in which a registered owner can respond to land notification of a persons intention to claim ownership under adverse possession rules, ie consent or object and from the date of objection they then have to take action to remove the squatter. If this is all happening within the 2 years the objection will be enough, but i cant help but wonder why the freeholder has wasted time with the landlords instead of direct legal action against Mr Gill from the moment he realised what was going on. Tenacious
  • Score: 3

9:08pm Wed 2 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

Tenacious wrote:
The easy answer to this is for the free holder to instal a separate access gate in the fence that falls on his titel deeds and then go in erect a sign on the boundary ststing ownership and who is permitted to occupy and use the area and take direct action against anyone who interfers with or trespasses on the land, object to the adverse possession claim once recieved from land registry, and take direct legal action against Mr Gill, an injunction preventing him entering upon or causing others to enter upon or interfering with the land and boundaries in any way. (not the landlord, as they have no jurisdiction over another persons land and cannot stop a tenant excercising their right to claim land under adverse possession entitlement. he isnt breaching any housing rules as it is his civil right to be abel to claim adverse possession as is everybody's.) There is a 2 year limit time in which a registered owner can respond to land notification of a persons intention to claim ownership under adverse possession rules, ie consent or object and from the date of objection they then have to take action to remove the squatter. If this is all happening within the 2 years the objection will be enough, but i cant help but wonder why the freeholder has wasted time with the landlords instead of direct legal action against Mr Gill from the moment he realised what was going on.
I think you may have just educated some of the dopes on this thread...they seemed to think he didn't have a right to make a claim because the land was owned!

If ignorance was awarded with cash there would be a quite a few millionaires on this thread.
[quote][p][bold]Tenacious[/bold] wrote: The easy answer to this is for the free holder to instal a separate access gate in the fence that falls on his titel deeds and then go in erect a sign on the boundary ststing ownership and who is permitted to occupy and use the area and take direct action against anyone who interfers with or trespasses on the land, object to the adverse possession claim once recieved from land registry, and take direct legal action against Mr Gill, an injunction preventing him entering upon or causing others to enter upon or interfering with the land and boundaries in any way. (not the landlord, as they have no jurisdiction over another persons land and cannot stop a tenant excercising their right to claim land under adverse possession entitlement. he isnt breaching any housing rules as it is his civil right to be abel to claim adverse possession as is everybody's.) There is a 2 year limit time in which a registered owner can respond to land notification of a persons intention to claim ownership under adverse possession rules, ie consent or object and from the date of objection they then have to take action to remove the squatter. If this is all happening within the 2 years the objection will be enough, but i cant help but wonder why the freeholder has wasted time with the landlords instead of direct legal action against Mr Gill from the moment he realised what was going on.[/p][/quote]I think you may have just educated some of the dopes on this thread...they seemed to think he didn't have a right to make a claim because the land was owned! If ignorance was awarded with cash there would be a quite a few millionaires on this thread. ThisYear
  • Score: -4

9:12pm Wed 2 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

cg1blue wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
poortaxpayer wrote: At the end of the day he is a mere tenant. His Landlord owns the garden and his landlord can and will decide who can use it. He is just being a complete moaning d1ck. He will lose and I hope the Judge makes him pay all the costs.
if the garden has been unused by others and was partitioned off he may have a case..of course he may not...but it isn't as black and white as some think.. Why would you wish a complete stranger financial harm?
Actually I think most people on here object to someone getting something for nothing by using a loophole in the law.
Just a hunch, but do you also support squatters?
You 'obviously' know what your talking about..so can you say what "loophole in the law" is being exploited..

I'd dare say thats probably the end of your contribution to the thread.
[quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]poortaxpayer[/bold] wrote: At the end of the day he is a mere tenant. His Landlord owns the garden and his landlord can and will decide who can use it. He is just being a complete moaning d1ck. He will lose and I hope the Judge makes him pay all the costs.[/p][/quote]if the garden has been unused by others and was partitioned off he may have a case..of course he may not...but it isn't as black and white as some think.. Why would you wish a complete stranger financial harm?[/p][/quote]Actually I think most people on here object to someone getting something for nothing by using a loophole in the law. Just a hunch, but do you also support squatters?[/p][/quote]You 'obviously' know what your talking about..so can you say what "loophole in the law" is being exploited.. I'd dare say thats probably the end of your contribution to the thread. ThisYear
  • Score: -5

9:16pm Wed 2 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

poortaxpayer wrote:
niki-loo wrote:
why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away!
Your tenancy will make it clear if it is for your sole use or shared use. You cannot claim you own the garden like the d1ck in the story is doing - he is a complete and utter moron and I hope he is made to pay all the cost involved.
Have you seen the mans tenancy agreement?

Do you know what it specifies about the garden?

Can you give any legal link that supports your claim that he cannot claim he owns the garden?

If you answer no to any or all of these aren't you being a mite presumptuous.

Why do you wish him financial harm..do you often wish strangers harm?
[quote][p][bold]poortaxpayer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]niki-loo[/bold] wrote: why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away![/p][/quote]Your tenancy will make it clear if it is for your sole use or shared use. You cannot claim you own the garden like the d1ck in the story is doing - he is a complete and utter moron and I hope he is made to pay all the cost involved.[/p][/quote]Have you seen the mans tenancy agreement? Do you know what it specifies about the garden? Can you give any legal link that supports your claim that he cannot claim he owns the garden? If you answer no to any or all of these aren't you being a mite presumptuous. Why do you wish him financial harm..do you often wish strangers harm? ThisYear
  • Score: -4

9:20pm Wed 2 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

cg1blue wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
poortaxpayer wrote: At the end of the day he is a mere tenant. His Landlord owns the garden and his landlord can and will decide who can use it. He is just being a complete moaning d1ck. He will lose and I hope the Judge makes him pay all the costs.
if the garden has been unused by others and was partitioned off he may have a case..of course he may not...but it isn't as black and white as some think.. Why would you wish a complete stranger financial harm?
Actually I think most people on here object to someone getting something for nothing by using a loophole in the law.
Just a hunch, but do you also support squatters?
Just a thought..You identify a way ( loophole on the law) where you don't have to pay as much tax..you would ignore that loophole?
[quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]poortaxpayer[/bold] wrote: At the end of the day he is a mere tenant. His Landlord owns the garden and his landlord can and will decide who can use it. He is just being a complete moaning d1ck. He will lose and I hope the Judge makes him pay all the costs.[/p][/quote]if the garden has been unused by others and was partitioned off he may have a case..of course he may not...but it isn't as black and white as some think.. Why would you wish a complete stranger financial harm?[/p][/quote]Actually I think most people on here object to someone getting something for nothing by using a loophole in the law. Just a hunch, but do you also support squatters?[/p][/quote]Just a thought..You identify a way ( loophole on the law) where you don't have to pay as much tax..you would ignore that loophole? ThisYear
  • Score: -6

8:57am Fri 4 Apr 14

openspace says...

ThisYear wrote:
poortaxpayer wrote:
niki-loo wrote:
why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away!
Your tenancy will make it clear if it is for your sole use or shared use. You cannot claim you own the garden like the d1ck in the story is doing - he is a complete and utter moron and I hope he is made to pay all the cost involved.
Have you seen the mans tenancy agreement?

Do you know what it specifies about the garden?

Can you give any legal link that supports your claim that he cannot claim he owns the garden?

If you answer no to any or all of these aren't you being a mite presumptuous.

Why do you wish him financial harm..do you often wish strangers harm?
Regardless of the facts in this particular case, a tenant never "owns" the property or garden that he or she rents. That is a fact and should be very, very obvious to all but the very, very stupid.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]poortaxpayer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]niki-loo[/bold] wrote: why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away![/p][/quote]Your tenancy will make it clear if it is for your sole use or shared use. You cannot claim you own the garden like the d1ck in the story is doing - he is a complete and utter moron and I hope he is made to pay all the cost involved.[/p][/quote]Have you seen the mans tenancy agreement? Do you know what it specifies about the garden? Can you give any legal link that supports your claim that he cannot claim he owns the garden? If you answer no to any or all of these aren't you being a mite presumptuous. Why do you wish him financial harm..do you often wish strangers harm?[/p][/quote]Regardless of the facts in this particular case, a tenant never "owns" the property or garden that he or she rents. That is a fact and should be very, very obvious to all but the very, very stupid. openspace
  • Score: 1

10:33am Fri 4 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

openspace wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
poortaxpayer wrote:
niki-loo wrote:
why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away!
Your tenancy will make it clear if it is for your sole use or shared use. You cannot claim you own the garden like the d1ck in the story is doing - he is a complete and utter moron and I hope he is made to pay all the cost involved.
Have you seen the mans tenancy agreement?

Do you know what it specifies about the garden?

Can you give any legal link that supports your claim that he cannot claim he owns the garden?

If you answer no to any or all of these aren't you being a mite presumptuous.

Why do you wish him financial harm..do you often wish strangers harm?
Regardless of the facts in this particular case, a tenant never "owns" the property or garden that he or she rents. That is a fact and should be very, very obvious to all but the very, very stupid.
"Regardless of the facts" Eh?

It is said he does not rent the garden he has claimed...isn't that the point?
[quote][p][bold]openspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]poortaxpayer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]niki-loo[/bold] wrote: why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away![/p][/quote]Your tenancy will make it clear if it is for your sole use or shared use. You cannot claim you own the garden like the d1ck in the story is doing - he is a complete and utter moron and I hope he is made to pay all the cost involved.[/p][/quote]Have you seen the mans tenancy agreement? Do you know what it specifies about the garden? Can you give any legal link that supports your claim that he cannot claim he owns the garden? If you answer no to any or all of these aren't you being a mite presumptuous. Why do you wish him financial harm..do you often wish strangers harm?[/p][/quote]Regardless of the facts in this particular case, a tenant never "owns" the property or garden that he or she rents. That is a fact and should be very, very obvious to all but the very, very stupid.[/p][/quote]"Regardless of the facts" Eh? It is said he does not rent the garden he has claimed...isn't that the point? ThisYear
  • Score: -4

1:44pm Fri 4 Apr 14

cg1blue says...

ThisYear wrote:
openspace wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
poortaxpayer wrote:
niki-loo wrote: why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away!
Your tenancy will make it clear if it is for your sole use or shared use. You cannot claim you own the garden like the d1ck in the story is doing - he is a complete and utter moron and I hope he is made to pay all the cost involved.
Have you seen the mans tenancy agreement? Do you know what it specifies about the garden? Can you give any legal link that supports your claim that he cannot claim he owns the garden? If you answer no to any or all of these aren't you being a mite presumptuous. Why do you wish him financial harm..do you often wish strangers harm?
Regardless of the facts in this particular case, a tenant never "owns" the property or garden that he or she rents. That is a fact and should be very, very obvious to all but the very, very stupid.
"Regardless of the facts" Eh? It is said he does not rent the garden he has claimed...isn't that the point?
What exactly is YOUR point ThisYear? All you ever seem to do is throw out veiled questions.
Try finishing a sentence without a question mark, and make a real contribution to this debate....
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]poortaxpayer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]niki-loo[/bold] wrote: why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away![/p][/quote]Your tenancy will make it clear if it is for your sole use or shared use. You cannot claim you own the garden like the d1ck in the story is doing - he is a complete and utter moron and I hope he is made to pay all the cost involved.[/p][/quote]Have you seen the mans tenancy agreement? Do you know what it specifies about the garden? Can you give any legal link that supports your claim that he cannot claim he owns the garden? If you answer no to any or all of these aren't you being a mite presumptuous. Why do you wish him financial harm..do you often wish strangers harm?[/p][/quote]Regardless of the facts in this particular case, a tenant never "owns" the property or garden that he or she rents. That is a fact and should be very, very obvious to all but the very, very stupid.[/p][/quote]"Regardless of the facts" Eh? It is said he does not rent the garden he has claimed...isn't that the point?[/p][/quote]What exactly is YOUR point ThisYear? All you ever seem to do is throw out veiled questions. Try finishing a sentence without a question mark, and make a real contribution to this debate.... cg1blue
  • Score: 1

3:33pm Fri 4 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

cg1blue wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
openspace wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
poortaxpayer wrote:
niki-loo wrote: why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away!
Your tenancy will make it clear if it is for your sole use or shared use. You cannot claim you own the garden like the d1ck in the story is doing - he is a complete and utter moron and I hope he is made to pay all the cost involved.
Have you seen the mans tenancy agreement? Do you know what it specifies about the garden? Can you give any legal link that supports your claim that he cannot claim he owns the garden? If you answer no to any or all of these aren't you being a mite presumptuous. Why do you wish him financial harm..do you often wish strangers harm?
Regardless of the facts in this particular case, a tenant never "owns" the property or garden that he or she rents. That is a fact and should be very, very obvious to all but the very, very stupid.
"Regardless of the facts" Eh? It is said he does not rent the garden he has claimed...isn't that the point?
What exactly is YOUR point ThisYear? All you ever seem to do is throw out veiled questions.
Try finishing a sentence without a question mark, and make a real contribution to this debate....
Perhaps if you understood what this man was claiming then it would all become quite clear..and the very basis of his claim wouldnt need to be explained.

People have misread or dont understand the claim and YET they are still posting comments on it..

Of course if I ask a question im bound to finish with a question mark..wouldn't I

(Drat now Ill be hung drawn and quartered for not doing so)
[quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]poortaxpayer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]niki-loo[/bold] wrote: why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away![/p][/quote]Your tenancy will make it clear if it is for your sole use or shared use. You cannot claim you own the garden like the d1ck in the story is doing - he is a complete and utter moron and I hope he is made to pay all the cost involved.[/p][/quote]Have you seen the mans tenancy agreement? Do you know what it specifies about the garden? Can you give any legal link that supports your claim that he cannot claim he owns the garden? If you answer no to any or all of these aren't you being a mite presumptuous. Why do you wish him financial harm..do you often wish strangers harm?[/p][/quote]Regardless of the facts in this particular case, a tenant never "owns" the property or garden that he or she rents. That is a fact and should be very, very obvious to all but the very, very stupid.[/p][/quote]"Regardless of the facts" Eh? It is said he does not rent the garden he has claimed...isn't that the point?[/p][/quote]What exactly is YOUR point ThisYear? All you ever seem to do is throw out veiled questions. Try finishing a sentence without a question mark, and make a real contribution to this debate....[/p][/quote]Perhaps if you understood what this man was claiming then it would all become quite clear..and the very basis of his claim wouldnt need to be explained. People have misread or dont understand the claim and YET they are still posting comments on it.. Of course if I ask a question im bound to finish with a question mark..wouldn't I (Drat now Ill be hung drawn and quartered for not doing so) ThisYear
  • Score: -2

4:44pm Fri 4 Apr 14

poortaxpayer says...

ThisYear wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
openspace wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
poortaxpayer wrote:
niki-loo wrote: why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away!
Your tenancy will make it clear if it is for your sole use or shared use. You cannot claim you own the garden like the d1ck in the story is doing - he is a complete and utter moron and I hope he is made to pay all the cost involved.
Have you seen the mans tenancy agreement? Do you know what it specifies about the garden? Can you give any legal link that supports your claim that he cannot claim he owns the garden? If you answer no to any or all of these aren't you being a mite presumptuous. Why do you wish him financial harm..do you often wish strangers harm?
Regardless of the facts in this particular case, a tenant never "owns" the property or garden that he or she rents. That is a fact and should be very, very obvious to all but the very, very stupid.
"Regardless of the facts" Eh? It is said he does not rent the garden he has claimed...isn't that the point?
What exactly is YOUR point ThisYear? All you ever seem to do is throw out veiled questions.
Try finishing a sentence without a question mark, and make a real contribution to this debate....
Perhaps if you understood what this man was claiming then it would all become quite clear..and the very basis of his claim wouldnt need to be explained.

People have misread or dont understand the claim and YET they are still posting comments on it..

Of course if I ask a question im bound to finish with a question mark..wouldn't I

(Drat now Ill be hung drawn and quartered for not doing so)
It is a shared use garden but the downstairs d1ck won't let the upstairs tenant use the garden hence the landowner partitioning the garden. Downstairs tenant is a complete and utter d1ck.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]poortaxpayer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]niki-loo[/bold] wrote: why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away![/p][/quote]Your tenancy will make it clear if it is for your sole use or shared use. You cannot claim you own the garden like the d1ck in the story is doing - he is a complete and utter moron and I hope he is made to pay all the cost involved.[/p][/quote]Have you seen the mans tenancy agreement? Do you know what it specifies about the garden? Can you give any legal link that supports your claim that he cannot claim he owns the garden? If you answer no to any or all of these aren't you being a mite presumptuous. Why do you wish him financial harm..do you often wish strangers harm?[/p][/quote]Regardless of the facts in this particular case, a tenant never "owns" the property or garden that he or she rents. That is a fact and should be very, very obvious to all but the very, very stupid.[/p][/quote]"Regardless of the facts" Eh? It is said he does not rent the garden he has claimed...isn't that the point?[/p][/quote]What exactly is YOUR point ThisYear? All you ever seem to do is throw out veiled questions. Try finishing a sentence without a question mark, and make a real contribution to this debate....[/p][/quote]Perhaps if you understood what this man was claiming then it would all become quite clear..and the very basis of his claim wouldnt need to be explained. People have misread or dont understand the claim and YET they are still posting comments on it.. Of course if I ask a question im bound to finish with a question mark..wouldn't I (Drat now Ill be hung drawn and quartered for not doing so)[/p][/quote]It is a shared use garden but the downstairs d1ck won't let the upstairs tenant use the garden hence the landowner partitioning the garden. Downstairs tenant is a complete and utter d1ck. poortaxpayer
  • Score: -1

4:48pm Fri 4 Apr 14

cg1blue says...

ThisYear wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
openspace wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
poortaxpayer wrote:
niki-loo wrote: why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away!
Your tenancy will make it clear if it is for your sole use or shared use. You cannot claim you own the garden like the d1ck in the story is doing - he is a complete and utter moron and I hope he is made to pay all the cost involved.
Have you seen the mans tenancy agreement? Do you know what it specifies about the garden? Can you give any legal link that supports your claim that he cannot claim he owns the garden? If you answer no to any or all of these aren't you being a mite presumptuous. Why do you wish him financial harm..do you often wish strangers harm?
Regardless of the facts in this particular case, a tenant never "owns" the property or garden that he or she rents. That is a fact and should be very, very obvious to all but the very, very stupid.
"Regardless of the facts" Eh? It is said he does not rent the garden he has claimed...isn't that the point?
What exactly is YOUR point ThisYear? All you ever seem to do is throw out veiled questions. Try finishing a sentence without a question mark, and make a real contribution to this debate....
Perhaps if you understood what this man was claiming then it would all become quite clear..and the very basis of his claim wouldnt need to be explained. People have misread or dont understand the claim and YET they are still posting comments on it.. Of course if I ask a question im bound to finish with a question mark..wouldn't I (Drat now Ill be hung drawn and quartered for not doing so)
Yes, he's trying to claim something that he didn't buy. Most people object to that.
If you're in favour of that then I disagree with you.
If you're simply pointing out that it is possible to do this under the current laws, then I agree with you.

It is possible he has a legal case, but that doesn't make it right or good!
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]poortaxpayer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]niki-loo[/bold] wrote: why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away![/p][/quote]Your tenancy will make it clear if it is for your sole use or shared use. You cannot claim you own the garden like the d1ck in the story is doing - he is a complete and utter moron and I hope he is made to pay all the cost involved.[/p][/quote]Have you seen the mans tenancy agreement? Do you know what it specifies about the garden? Can you give any legal link that supports your claim that he cannot claim he owns the garden? If you answer no to any or all of these aren't you being a mite presumptuous. Why do you wish him financial harm..do you often wish strangers harm?[/p][/quote]Regardless of the facts in this particular case, a tenant never "owns" the property or garden that he or she rents. That is a fact and should be very, very obvious to all but the very, very stupid.[/p][/quote]"Regardless of the facts" Eh? It is said he does not rent the garden he has claimed...isn't that the point?[/p][/quote]What exactly is YOUR point ThisYear? All you ever seem to do is throw out veiled questions. Try finishing a sentence without a question mark, and make a real contribution to this debate....[/p][/quote]Perhaps if you understood what this man was claiming then it would all become quite clear..and the very basis of his claim wouldnt need to be explained. People have misread or dont understand the claim and YET they are still posting comments on it.. Of course if I ask a question im bound to finish with a question mark..wouldn't I (Drat now Ill be hung drawn and quartered for not doing so)[/p][/quote]Yes, he's trying to claim something that he didn't buy. Most people object to that. If you're in favour of that then I disagree with you. If you're simply pointing out that it is possible to do this under the current laws, then I agree with you. It is possible he has a legal case, but that doesn't make it right or good! cg1blue
  • Score: 2

5:04pm Fri 4 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

poortaxpayer wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
openspace wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
poortaxpayer wrote:
niki-loo wrote: why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away!
Your tenancy will make it clear if it is for your sole use or shared use. You cannot claim you own the garden like the d1ck in the story is doing - he is a complete and utter moron and I hope he is made to pay all the cost involved.
Have you seen the mans tenancy agreement? Do you know what it specifies about the garden? Can you give any legal link that supports your claim that he cannot claim he owns the garden? If you answer no to any or all of these aren't you being a mite presumptuous. Why do you wish him financial harm..do you often wish strangers harm?
Regardless of the facts in this particular case, a tenant never "owns" the property or garden that he or she rents. That is a fact and should be very, very obvious to all but the very, very stupid.
"Regardless of the facts" Eh? It is said he does not rent the garden he has claimed...isn't that the point?
What exactly is YOUR point ThisYear? All you ever seem to do is throw out veiled questions.
Try finishing a sentence without a question mark, and make a real contribution to this debate....
Perhaps if you understood what this man was claiming then it would all become quite clear..and the very basis of his claim wouldnt need to be explained.

People have misread or dont understand the claim and YET they are still posting comments on it..

Of course if I ask a question im bound to finish with a question mark..wouldn't I

(Drat now Ill be hung drawn and quartered for not doing so)
It is a shared use garden but the downstairs d1ck won't let the upstairs tenant use the garden hence the landowner partitioning the garden. Downstairs tenant is a complete and utter d1ck.
If the garden is partitioned then he has claimed the half that isn't for his usage...his case being he has used it exclusively for the last 14 years...he cannot claim the half that he rents because that, presumingly, is part of his tenancy agreement .

Do you know the guy?

You seem rather passionate about a stranger..
[quote][p][bold]poortaxpayer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]poortaxpayer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]niki-loo[/bold] wrote: why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away![/p][/quote]Your tenancy will make it clear if it is for your sole use or shared use. You cannot claim you own the garden like the d1ck in the story is doing - he is a complete and utter moron and I hope he is made to pay all the cost involved.[/p][/quote]Have you seen the mans tenancy agreement? Do you know what it specifies about the garden? Can you give any legal link that supports your claim that he cannot claim he owns the garden? If you answer no to any or all of these aren't you being a mite presumptuous. Why do you wish him financial harm..do you often wish strangers harm?[/p][/quote]Regardless of the facts in this particular case, a tenant never "owns" the property or garden that he or she rents. That is a fact and should be very, very obvious to all but the very, very stupid.[/p][/quote]"Regardless of the facts" Eh? It is said he does not rent the garden he has claimed...isn't that the point?[/p][/quote]What exactly is YOUR point ThisYear? All you ever seem to do is throw out veiled questions. Try finishing a sentence without a question mark, and make a real contribution to this debate....[/p][/quote]Perhaps if you understood what this man was claiming then it would all become quite clear..and the very basis of his claim wouldnt need to be explained. People have misread or dont understand the claim and YET they are still posting comments on it.. Of course if I ask a question im bound to finish with a question mark..wouldn't I (Drat now Ill be hung drawn and quartered for not doing so)[/p][/quote]It is a shared use garden but the downstairs d1ck won't let the upstairs tenant use the garden hence the landowner partitioning the garden. Downstairs tenant is a complete and utter d1ck.[/p][/quote]If the garden is partitioned then he has claimed the half that isn't for his usage...his case being he has used it exclusively for the last 14 years...he cannot claim the half that he rents because that, presumingly, is part of his tenancy agreement . Do you know the guy? You seem rather passionate about a stranger.. ThisYear
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5:09pm Fri 4 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

cg1blue wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
openspace wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
poortaxpayer wrote:
niki-loo wrote: why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away!
Your tenancy will make it clear if it is for your sole use or shared use. You cannot claim you own the garden like the d1ck in the story is doing - he is a complete and utter moron and I hope he is made to pay all the cost involved.
Have you seen the mans tenancy agreement? Do you know what it specifies about the garden? Can you give any legal link that supports your claim that he cannot claim he owns the garden? If you answer no to any or all of these aren't you being a mite presumptuous. Why do you wish him financial harm..do you often wish strangers harm?
Regardless of the facts in this particular case, a tenant never "owns" the property or garden that he or she rents. That is a fact and should be very, very obvious to all but the very, very stupid.
"Regardless of the facts" Eh? It is said he does not rent the garden he has claimed...isn't that the point?
What exactly is YOUR point ThisYear? All you ever seem to do is throw out veiled questions. Try finishing a sentence without a question mark, and make a real contribution to this debate....
Perhaps if you understood what this man was claiming then it would all become quite clear..and the very basis of his claim wouldnt need to be explained. People have misread or dont understand the claim and YET they are still posting comments on it.. Of course if I ask a question im bound to finish with a question mark..wouldn't I (Drat now Ill be hung drawn and quartered for not doing so)
Yes, he's trying to claim something that he didn't buy. Most people object to that.
If you're in favour of that then I disagree with you.
If you're simply pointing out that it is possible to do this under the current laws, then I agree with you.

It is possible he has a legal case, but that doesn't make it right or good!
How on earth do you know most people object to claiming something they didn't buy?

Far from it..

Isn't there such a thing as 'finders keepers'

Morals do not come into this matter surely?

The man has been using a piece of land exclusively for 14 years and wants to continue to do so...let the experts decide if he can..but as you agree he has a right to make the claim and have it considered..

The dunderheads who think he cant need to research a little..
[quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]poortaxpayer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]niki-loo[/bold] wrote: why are tenants who rent their homes being talked about like second class citizens? i rent my home, my tenancy agreement covers my garden too. if it is covered in the tenancy agreement, i.e you PAY for it, then the landlord cannot simply take it away![/p][/quote]Your tenancy will make it clear if it is for your sole use or shared use. You cannot claim you own the garden like the d1ck in the story is doing - he is a complete and utter moron and I hope he is made to pay all the cost involved.[/p][/quote]Have you seen the mans tenancy agreement? Do you know what it specifies about the garden? Can you give any legal link that supports your claim that he cannot claim he owns the garden? If you answer no to any or all of these aren't you being a mite presumptuous. Why do you wish him financial harm..do you often wish strangers harm?[/p][/quote]Regardless of the facts in this particular case, a tenant never "owns" the property or garden that he or she rents. That is a fact and should be very, very obvious to all but the very, very stupid.[/p][/quote]"Regardless of the facts" Eh? It is said he does not rent the garden he has claimed...isn't that the point?[/p][/quote]What exactly is YOUR point ThisYear? All you ever seem to do is throw out veiled questions. Try finishing a sentence without a question mark, and make a real contribution to this debate....[/p][/quote]Perhaps if you understood what this man was claiming then it would all become quite clear..and the very basis of his claim wouldnt need to be explained. People have misread or dont understand the claim and YET they are still posting comments on it.. Of course if I ask a question im bound to finish with a question mark..wouldn't I (Drat now Ill be hung drawn and quartered for not doing so)[/p][/quote]Yes, he's trying to claim something that he didn't buy. Most people object to that. If you're in favour of that then I disagree with you. If you're simply pointing out that it is possible to do this under the current laws, then I agree with you. It is possible he has a legal case, but that doesn't make it right or good![/p][/quote]How on earth do you know most people object to claiming something they didn't buy? Far from it.. Isn't there such a thing as 'finders keepers' Morals do not come into this matter surely? The man has been using a piece of land exclusively for 14 years and wants to continue to do so...let the experts decide if he can..but as you agree he has a right to make the claim and have it considered.. The dunderheads who think he cant need to research a little.. ThisYear
  • Score: -1

3:21pm Wed 16 Apr 14

jb411 says...

How can he claim the land, he doesn't own the property, the freeholder does, he has no right to the land. Glad he's not my neighbour.
How can he claim the land, he doesn't own the property, the freeholder does, he has no right to the land. Glad he's not my neighbour. jb411
  • Score: 0

11:41am Thu 24 Apr 14

d_2da_ougle says...

id hate to be the one to advocate some education here but tennents do have rights we can argue the balls out of it now but the court will decide if the tennent has sole use of the garden or not all the keyboard warrioring is rather grandose, one thing i will add is what is all this tax payer subsidised housing about you can climb of your purch people if you care to look at david camerons latest cuts council finding for rent has been slashed for the past 2 years and rents have been increasing above the normal level council housing will be in line with the private market by 2016 and that is a fact this tax payer subdised housing you talk about dont exist no more fact get educated
id hate to be the one to advocate some education here but tennents do have rights we can argue the balls out of it now but the court will decide if the tennent has sole use of the garden or not all the keyboard warrioring is rather grandose, one thing i will add is what is all this tax payer subsidised housing about you can climb of your purch people if you care to look at david camerons latest cuts council finding for rent has been slashed for the past 2 years and rents have been increasing above the normal level council housing will be in line with the private market by 2016 and that is a fact this tax payer subdised housing you talk about dont exist no more fact get educated d_2da_ougle
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