Basildon Hospital shelter ‘will keep ground dry’

Echo: Basildon Hospital shelter ‘will keep ground dry’ Basildon Hospital shelter ‘will keep ground dry’

HEALTH and safety rules mean Basildon Hospital is having to spend money building a shelter over a car park loading bay – so the ground doesn’t get wet.

The hospital has applied for permission to build a new shelter over the bay where medicines and meals are taken off vans.

It has put in an application to Basildon Council to be allowed to do the work to create a “safer working area for all personnel who use the current loading bay”.

But bosses admit there has not been a single instance of a person being injured, or any goods being damaged in the area, in the history of the hospital.

A hospital spokesman said: “Under the Health and Safety at Work Act, all workplaces are obliged to continually conduct and review risk assessments across their sites.

“As a result of one of these regular risk assessments, an area was identified where a possible slip could occur.”

She added that the cost of the work cannot yet be calculated as it is out to tender.

If planning permission is granted, work on the 44sq m canopy, which will be made out of concrete and metal, will take three to four months. Andy Silvester, campaign manager of the Taxpayers’ Alliance, said: “Taxpayers will be very keen that not a penny is spent on Basildon Hospital that isn’t explicitly used to improve standards of care for patients.

“If legislation dictates this canopy must be built, then hospital bosses should make sure they don’t spend any more than is absolutely necessary."

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2:19pm Thu 29 May 14

Kim Gandy says...

Oh for God's sake....
Oh for God's sake.... Kim Gandy
  • Score: 3

4:08pm Thu 29 May 14

Vange Resident says...

Waste of money if as they say"bosses admit there has not been a single instance of a person being injured, or any goods being damaged in the area, in the history of the hospital"
Waste of money if as they say"bosses admit there has not been a single instance of a person being injured, or any goods being damaged in the area, in the history of the hospital" Vange Resident
  • Score: 4

4:22pm Thu 29 May 14

shallotman says...

Elf & Safety has got completely out of hand. And should be closed down.
Elf & Safety has got completely out of hand. And should be closed down. shallotman
  • Score: 3

4:42pm Thu 29 May 14

Devils Advocate says...

"Health and safety" has saved thousands and thousands of people from serious injury and death. If you believe it is a waste of money, then you obviously did not work in any form of industry before these rules were in place. Kim Gandy is a classic example, having never set foot in any real workplace. Neglect of safety by millionaire mis-management was the cause of the current levels of caution. It was ridiculed by that management when corporate responsibility was brought in. Now if they do not do their level best to protect their workforce from management negligence, they bear the responsibility. People like Kim Gandy do not care about children being ripped limb from limb as they cleaned the weaving machines whilst they were running. Why close down something that keeps greed from causing injury and death to hard-working people??
"Health and safety" has saved thousands and thousands of people from serious injury and death. If you believe it is a waste of money, then you obviously did not work in any form of industry before these rules were in place. Kim Gandy is a classic example, having never set foot in any real workplace. Neglect of safety by millionaire mis-management was the cause of the current levels of caution. It was ridiculed by that management when corporate responsibility was brought in. Now if they do not do their level best to protect their workforce from management negligence, they bear the responsibility. People like Kim Gandy do not care about children being ripped limb from limb as they cleaned the weaving machines whilst they were running. Why close down something that keeps greed from causing injury and death to hard-working people?? Devils Advocate
  • Score: 3

8:22pm Thu 29 May 14

Kim Gandy says...

Devils Advocate wrote:
"Health and safety" has saved thousands and thousands of people from serious injury and death. If you believe it is a waste of money, then you obviously did not work in any form of industry before these rules were in place. Kim Gandy is a classic example, having never set foot in any real workplace. Neglect of safety by millionaire mis-management was the cause of the current levels of caution. It was ridiculed by that management when corporate responsibility was brought in. Now if they do not do their level best to protect their workforce from management negligence, they bear the responsibility. People like Kim Gandy do not care about children being ripped limb from limb as they cleaned the weaving machines whilst they were running. Why close down something that keeps greed from causing injury and death to hard-working people??
Listen idiot, do you call care homes not a real workplace? They are, despite al the shouting, health and safety nightmares and run by management who think they can get away with five staff overnight for 84 residents.

I have done all sorts of jobs including working in a blood bank overnight spinning blood components, I've worked in offices and shops.

I have spent more of my life working than you, sitting on your backside collecting benefits all day.

There, you ASSUMED stuff about me that's untrue so I will ASSUME what the h3ll I like about you too.

Yet another moronic comment from a simpleton who doesn't know me, my family nor anything about my life.
[quote][p][bold]Devils Advocate[/bold] wrote: "Health and safety" has saved thousands and thousands of people from serious injury and death. If you believe it is a waste of money, then you obviously did not work in any form of industry before these rules were in place. Kim Gandy is a classic example, having never set foot in any real workplace. Neglect of safety by millionaire mis-management was the cause of the current levels of caution. It was ridiculed by that management when corporate responsibility was brought in. Now if they do not do their level best to protect their workforce from management negligence, they bear the responsibility. People like Kim Gandy do not care about children being ripped limb from limb as they cleaned the weaving machines whilst they were running. Why close down something that keeps greed from causing injury and death to hard-working people??[/p][/quote]Listen idiot, do you call care homes not a real workplace? They are, despite al the shouting, health and safety nightmares and run by management who think they can get away with five staff overnight for 84 residents. I have done all sorts of jobs including working in a blood bank overnight spinning blood components, I've worked in offices and shops. I have spent more of my life working than you, sitting on your backside collecting benefits all day. There, you ASSUMED stuff about me that's untrue so I will ASSUME what the h3ll I like about you too. Yet another moronic comment from a simpleton who doesn't know me, my family nor anything about my life. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 0

8:30pm Thu 29 May 14

Kim Gandy says...

Devils Advocate... a workshy bum who gives ME lectures on working and then refers to the Victorian Mills. I had ancestors that worked in steel works, mines and on the railways.

I have NEVER advocated children being torn limb from limb. Of course there have to be safeguards in place but the point here is that this is well over the top. How can you compare this with Victorian mills?

Idiot.

I have managed shifts in care homes with minimum staff, poor and broken equipment and lack of PPE.. That's personal protective equipment to ignoramuses like you..

I blew the whistle on many an unsafe practice in care homes which blow their own trumpet a lot about "elfnsafety" but rarely take any notice of their staff.

THIS IS WHAT I FIND A HUGE JOKE.

"Elfnsafety" is a total misnomer because all it's about is ticking boxes. When it comes to the shop floor it rarely works in practice because stupid management insist on cutting corners.

In years gone by people used common sense but now we have a lot of idiots making stupid checklists that rarely bear any relevance to the workplace.

I've had clipboard fascists visit the home I worked in, commenting on missing curtain rings whilst residents sat waiting in their own mess to be attended to - myself and my staff struggled to cope with minimum staff and residents who often needed two carers to hoist or lift them.

You try working in an environment like that on 15 hour shifts.

I've done it for years, working hours in bad conditions for a pittance.

And yes, I HAVE campaigned for better conditions and pay and continue to do so despite the efforts of people like you and some of the idiots on here who like to circulate libellous comments and nasty rumours about me.

These people care so much that they try to derail my efforts to help people.

Well sorry, it's not working.
Devils Advocate... a workshy bum who gives ME lectures on working and then refers to the Victorian Mills. I had ancestors that worked in steel works, mines and on the railways. I have NEVER advocated children being torn limb from limb. Of course there have to be safeguards in place but the point here is that this is well over the top. How can you compare this with Victorian mills? Idiot. I have managed shifts in care homes with minimum staff, poor and broken equipment and lack of PPE.. That's personal protective equipment to ignoramuses like you.. I blew the whistle on many an unsafe practice in care homes which blow their own trumpet a lot about "elfnsafety" but rarely take any notice of their staff. THIS IS WHAT I FIND A HUGE JOKE. "Elfnsafety" is a total misnomer because all it's about is ticking boxes. When it comes to the shop floor it rarely works in practice because stupid management insist on cutting corners. In years gone by people used common sense but now we have a lot of idiots making stupid checklists that rarely bear any relevance to the workplace. I've had clipboard fascists visit the home I worked in, commenting on missing curtain rings whilst residents sat waiting in their own mess to be attended to - myself and my staff struggled to cope with minimum staff and residents who often needed two carers to hoist or lift them. You try working in an environment like that on 15 hour shifts. I've done it for years, working hours in bad conditions for a pittance. And yes, I HAVE campaigned for better conditions and pay and continue to do so despite the efforts of people like you and some of the idiots on here who like to circulate libellous comments and nasty rumours about me. These people care so much that they try to derail my efforts to help people. Well sorry, it's not working. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 0

11:16pm Thu 29 May 14

Living the La Vida Legra says...

I've worked extensively at this area and it is desperately needed
You cant even wounder what comes through this vital portal
I've worked extensively at this area and it is desperately needed You cant even wounder what comes through this vital portal Living the La Vida Legra
  • Score: 1

1:10am Fri 30 May 14

Devils Advocate says...

Kim, you are wrong and your ravings prove that so.
"If you believe it is a waste of money, then you obviously did not work in any form of industry before these rules were in place. Kim Gandy is a classic example, having never set foot in any real workplace." That was my quote, Any form of industry does not mean care homes, nor offices nor even rattling on about "Champagne socialists" because the leaders of a union with thousands of members get paid a wage that goes with the responsibility.
Your assumptions are also wrong. Yes I was off work when I was 49 having suffered a heart attack but I returned to work and, when my place of employment shut down became self-employed in my own business. Other than a short period out of work when the Blue steel and Blue streak were cancelled, (6 weeks in 1965) I have kept myself gainfully employed.
Now I have retired, am over 70 and, with the asbestos sitting in my lungs, which incidentally the industrialists and government knew about for over a hundred years but kept it secret, and, sadly,by the time we were informed of its properties, it was too late for me. Health and safety laws could have prevented that happening as long ago as 1860, but, like you, the imperious leaders decided that it would be stupid to let people know about the fatalities caused by that material.
But, I will not stoop to your loutish name calling, nor will I take umbrage when you besmirch me by calling me work-shy etc.
You can't help what you are and, in a way I feel sorry for you and your right-wing beliefs. Oh, and pointing out what your forbears did has nothing to do with your work experience.
I still spend time at a couple of care homes by the way. The only difference with that, where you and I are concerned, is I do not get paid for helping.
The very last point I will make is to say that your attitude towards health and safety aligns with the Tory who said a few years ago: "If we had known what trouble releasing the news about asbestos would cause we would have kept it secret forever!"
And you support this attitude?
Shame on you Kim Gandy!
Kim, you are wrong and your ravings prove that so. "If you believe it is a waste of money, then you obviously did not work in any form of industry before these rules were in place. Kim Gandy is a classic example, having never set foot in any real workplace." That was my quote, Any form of industry does not mean care homes, nor offices nor even rattling on about "Champagne socialists" because the leaders of a union with thousands of members get paid a wage that goes with the responsibility. Your assumptions are also wrong. Yes I was off work when I was 49 having suffered a heart attack but I returned to work and, when my place of employment shut down became self-employed in my own business. Other than a short period out of work when the Blue steel and Blue streak were cancelled, (6 weeks in 1965) I have kept myself gainfully employed. Now I have retired, am over 70 and, with the asbestos sitting in my lungs, which incidentally the industrialists and government knew about for over a hundred years but kept it secret, and, sadly,by the time we were informed of its properties, it was too late for me. Health and safety laws could have prevented that happening as long ago as 1860, but, like you, the imperious leaders decided that it would be stupid to let people know about the fatalities caused by that material. But, I will not stoop to your loutish name calling, nor will I take umbrage when you besmirch me by calling me work-shy etc. You can't help what you are and, in a way I feel sorry for you and your right-wing beliefs. Oh, and pointing out what your forbears did has nothing to do with your work experience. I still spend time at a couple of care homes by the way. The only difference with that, where you and I are concerned, is I do not get paid for helping. The very last point I will make is to say that your attitude towards health and safety aligns with the Tory who said a few years ago: "If we had known what trouble releasing the news about asbestos would cause we would have kept it secret forever!" And you support this attitude? Shame on you Kim Gandy! Devils Advocate
  • Score: 3

8:36pm Fri 30 May 14

Hopper says...

What a wonderful idea. It will keep the scum dry while they stand outside with the drip still attached on the trolley while they smoke and drink.

Might keep them away from the main entrance so we don't you don't feel like your doing the entrance of a stars in their eyes contestant every time you go in and out the god forsaken place!!!
What a wonderful idea. It will keep the scum dry while they stand outside with the drip still attached on the trolley while they smoke and drink. Might keep them away from the main entrance so we don't you don't feel like your doing the entrance of a stars in their eyes contestant every time you go in and out the god forsaken place!!! Hopper
  • Score: 0

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