Commuter parking chaos continues

Commuter parking chaos continues

Commuter parking chaos continues

First published in Local News by

FRUSTRATED residents who have been campaigning for parking permits for a decade face a further three year wait.

More than 125 people living in Crosse Courts, Laindon, face daily misery with commuters using their parking spaces – leaving them waiting hours to park near their homes.

They want residential parking to be introduced to solve the problem, but it has emerged it would take Essex County Council, which is looking at adopting the road from housing company Lovell, three years to put such a scheme in place.

Keith Guttridge, 37, said: “It has been ten years.

“We have had a meeting with Essex County Council highways which said they can put in a parking scheme right across the road if the residents agree to it.

“But they need to adopt the road, and in order to do that, Lovell has to get the maintenance up to scratch and the sewers sorted, which will take a while.

“They then have to keep it at that good level for a year before the council adopts it and a further 18 months before the scheme can be put in. It’s just never ending.”

The residents were dealt a blow in April when the plug was pulled on their own parking enforcement scheme which they had set up themselves.

Lovell had initially agreed, but pulled out at the 11th hour, saying permission had been granted by someone who did not have the authority.

The housing company does not allowparking schemes on its own land for legal reasons.

Mr Guttridge said: “At the end of the day, Lovell needs to change its policies on allowing parking schemes.

“The road really should have been adopted ten years ago.

Then we wouldn’t be in this position.”

A spokesman for Lovell said: “We have met with Essex County Council’s Highways department in the past month and are progressing legal proceedings for the adoption of the road by the County Council. We will keep residents updated on progress.”

Essex County Council did not respond before the Echo went to print.

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3:49pm Wed 11 Jun 14

The__Truth says...

How is the Council getting the blame for this. People are parking on private land owned & managed by Lovell. Lovell aren't interested in restricting the parking. The residents need to continue to complain to Lovell. Possibly threaten to with hold part of their rent until it is sorted out. How hard is it to put up signs saying residents parking only. That would probably reduce the problem immediately while they sort something else out. Why would the Council adopt the road. It is a private estate road. It will just become a burden on their resources. Oh and Councils can place double yellow lines on private land open to the public. Maybe this is the way to go for now.
How is the Council getting the blame for this. People are parking on private land owned & managed by Lovell. Lovell aren't interested in restricting the parking. The residents need to continue to complain to Lovell. Possibly threaten to with hold part of their rent until it is sorted out. How hard is it to put up signs saying residents parking only. That would probably reduce the problem immediately while they sort something else out. Why would the Council adopt the road. It is a private estate road. It will just become a burden on their resources. Oh and Councils can place double yellow lines on private land open to the public. Maybe this is the way to go for now. The__Truth
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8:14pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Howard Cháse says...

When it was still the unredeveloped Alcatraz estate commuters wouldn't dare to leave their motors parked there all day. Even the so called secure car park over the road wasn't safe then....
When it was still the unredeveloped Alcatraz estate commuters wouldn't dare to leave their motors parked there all day. Even the so called secure car park over the road wasn't safe then.... Howard Cháse
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12:53am Thu 12 Jun 14

monkey69 says...

when people have three or four cars per household don't help matters
when people have three or four cars per household don't help matters monkey69
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12:54am Thu 12 Jun 14

monkey69 says...

when people like keith have three cars two trailers is not fair on other house holds
when people like keith have three cars two trailers is not fair on other house holds monkey69
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8:51am Thu 12 Jun 14

sesibollox says...

I always park there, its free and close to the station
I always park there, its free and close to the station sesibollox
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10:44am Thu 12 Jun 14

keithrg says...

Howard Cháse wrote:
When it was still the unredeveloped Alcatraz estate commuters wouldn't dare to leave their motors parked there all day. Even the so called secure car park over the road wasn't safe then....
under Acatraz it had parking control and Garages too
[quote][p][bold]Howard Cháse[/bold] wrote: When it was still the unredeveloped Alcatraz estate commuters wouldn't dare to leave their motors parked there all day. Even the so called secure car park over the road wasn't safe then....[/p][/quote]under Acatraz it had parking control and Garages too keithrg
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10:49am Thu 12 Jun 14

keithrg says...

monkey69 wrote:
when people have three or four cars per household don't help matters
when people have that many adults or need a work a work vehicle its necessary. Before redevelopment there was no issues over parking except the odd idiot blocking blocking Garages cause they where to lazy to park in a bay. Over development. Ie 8 house with drives where to built, but then they built 27 flats instead with the benefit of having a dedicated parking space. but then most of them own two cars.
[quote][p][bold]monkey69[/bold] wrote: when people have three or four cars per household don't help matters[/p][/quote]when people have that many adults or need a work a work vehicle its necessary. Before redevelopment there was no issues over parking except the odd idiot blocking blocking Garages cause they where to lazy to park in a bay. Over development. Ie 8 house with drives where to built, but then they built 27 flats instead with the benefit of having a dedicated parking space. but then most of them own two cars. keithrg
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10:58am Thu 12 Jun 14

keithrg says...

monkey69 wrote:
when people like keith have three cars two trailers is not fair on other house holds
Trailer is for sale come buy it? 3 cars are necessary to my house hold One eco car for daily commutes, One for work and leisure one for the other adult in house hold. Its less than 2 years till my son will need a car. Other neighbours have 4 vehicles guess why 3 adults and work vehicle. I have changed nothing and never had issues before redevelopment started. I had a garage a drive I could use a drive I could park accross. Its the estate has been changed and there are still 10 more homes to be built in Crosse Courts meaning the loss of up to 37 more parking spaces and the new owners off them properties having cars too.
[quote][p][bold]monkey69[/bold] wrote: when people like keith have three cars two trailers is not fair on other house holds[/p][/quote]Trailer is for sale come buy it? 3 cars are necessary to my house hold One eco car for daily commutes, One for work and leisure one for the other adult in house hold. Its less than 2 years till my son will need a car. Other neighbours have 4 vehicles guess why 3 adults and work vehicle. I have changed nothing and never had issues before redevelopment started. I had a garage a drive I could use a drive I could park accross. Its the estate has been changed and there are still 10 more homes to be built in Crosse Courts meaning the loss of up to 37 more parking spaces and the new owners off them properties having cars too. keithrg
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11:04am Thu 12 Jun 14

keithrg says...

sesibollox wrote:
I always park there, its free and close to the station
Yes Because your a selfish person with no regards for others. I don't use the train for work I cannot afford to. If you cant afford to park at station walk or get a new job Maybe even buy or rent a home here??? . Mums with kids sitting in cars waiting for somewhere to park is not on Have some respect. Oap disable people Having to struggle some off which have been here 40 years and owned or rented garages, that the council forcefully purchased or cancelled tenants. They where supposed to have designated disabled bays.
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: I always park there, its free and close to the station[/p][/quote]Yes Because your a selfish person with no regards for others. I don't use the train for work I cannot afford to. If you cant afford to park at station walk or get a new job Maybe even buy or rent a home here??? . Mums with kids sitting in cars waiting for somewhere to park is not on Have some respect. Oap disable people Having to struggle some off which have been here 40 years and owned or rented garages, that the council forcefully purchased or cancelled tenants. They where supposed to have designated disabled bays. keithrg
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11:21am Thu 12 Jun 14

keithrg says...

The__Truth wrote:
How is the Council getting the blame for this. People are parking on private land owned & managed by Lovell. Lovell aren't interested in restricting the parking. The residents need to continue to complain to Lovell. Possibly threaten to with hold part of their rent until it is sorted out. How hard is it to put up signs saying residents parking only. That would probably reduce the problem immediately while they sort something else out. Why would the Council adopt the road. It is a private estate road. It will just become a burden on their resources. Oh and Councils can place double yellow lines on private land open to the public. Maybe this is the way to go for now.
The council is getting the blame.
1 They sold the Land
2 They let Lovell change plans and over develop it
3 they made no save guards for its existing residents
4 They have the power to take the road way ect back but will not do it
5 very little money if any is paid to Lovell as most properties are on Basildon council land
this as above is not an sole Lovell development. It was always planned from day one that The road would be adopted within one year off completion. That was 9 years ago in 2007 a survey was done and results released in 2008 saying IT IS A MATTER OF URGENCY THAT CROSS AND BEESTON COURTS ARE ADOPTED. Never happened Basildon Council failed all its residents when it allowed over development. It all falls back to them. They should Take back the road ways and take responsibility. The power is in there hands Maybe we should hold back our Council tax O wait that is a prison able offence.

I see you have never been here there are 3 large signs stating private road residents parking and also around 20 small signs displayed.

It is not a private Estate road

Council can install double yellow line on private land ??? But that wouldn't help as where will residents park ?

Lovell will not put in more parking as requested, they will not allow parking schemes, they will not sell off parking bays, they will not carry out repairs. Hence the Adoption has never happened. But the Council could resolve all this.

Swan housing have offered to run a free parking scheme for them, Residents have offered too. Lovell are useless they made there money now dont want to know. Council are useless as wont act on powers available.

I hope this clears a lot up for you.
[quote][p][bold]The__Truth[/bold] wrote: How is the Council getting the blame for this. People are parking on private land owned & managed by Lovell. Lovell aren't interested in restricting the parking. The residents need to continue to complain to Lovell. Possibly threaten to with hold part of their rent until it is sorted out. How hard is it to put up signs saying residents parking only. That would probably reduce the problem immediately while they sort something else out. Why would the Council adopt the road. It is a private estate road. It will just become a burden on their resources. Oh and Councils can place double yellow lines on private land open to the public. Maybe this is the way to go for now.[/p][/quote]The council is getting the blame. 1 They sold the Land 2 They let Lovell change plans and over develop it 3 they made no save guards for its existing residents 4 They have the power to take the road way ect back but will not do it 5 very little money if any is paid to Lovell as most properties are on Basildon council land this as above is not an sole Lovell development. It was always planned from day one that The road would be adopted within one year off completion. That was 9 years ago in 2007 a survey was done and results released in 2008 saying IT IS A MATTER OF URGENCY THAT CROSS AND BEESTON COURTS ARE ADOPTED. Never happened Basildon Council failed all its residents when it allowed over development. It all falls back to them. They should Take back the road ways and take responsibility. The power is in there hands Maybe we should hold back our Council tax O wait that is a prison able offence. I see you have never been here there are 3 large signs stating private road residents parking and also around 20 small signs displayed. It is not a private Estate road Council can install double yellow line on private land ??? But that wouldn't help as where will residents park ? Lovell will not put in more parking as requested, they will not allow parking schemes, they will not sell off parking bays, they will not carry out repairs. Hence the Adoption has never happened. But the Council could resolve all this. Swan housing have offered to run a free parking scheme for them, Residents have offered too. Lovell are useless they made there money now dont want to know. Council are useless as wont act on powers available. I hope this clears a lot up for you. keithrg
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11:58am Thu 12 Jun 14

keithrg says...

Every commuter that parks there there is committing an Offence off Trespass unfortunately Lovell wont take action.
Every commuter that parks there there is committing an Offence off Trespass unfortunately Lovell wont take action. keithrg
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12:12pm Thu 12 Jun 14

keithrg says...

Just to add the council do however come round and litter pick and cut the grass on a plus side, shame they don't cut the bushes to though. BBC even came out and cleared dumped rubbish because Lovell couldn't be arsed.
Just to add the council do however come round and litter pick and cut the grass on a plus side, shame they don't cut the bushes to though. BBC even came out and cleared dumped rubbish because Lovell couldn't be arsed. keithrg
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4:46pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Howard Cháse says...

keithrg wrote:
Just to add the council do however come round and litter pick and cut the grass on a plus side, shame they don't cut the bushes to though. BBC even came out and cleared dumped rubbish because Lovell couldn't be arsed.
Did ITV and Channel.four turn up as well?
[quote][p][bold]keithrg[/bold] wrote: Just to add the council do however come round and litter pick and cut the grass on a plus side, shame they don't cut the bushes to though. BBC even came out and cleared dumped rubbish because Lovell couldn't be arsed.[/p][/quote]Did ITV and Channel.four turn up as well? Howard Cháse
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5:20pm Thu 12 Jun 14

keithrg says...

Howard Cháse wrote:
keithrg wrote:
Just to add the council do however come round and litter pick and cut the grass on a plus side, shame they don't cut the bushes to though. BBC even came out and cleared dumped rubbish because Lovell couldn't be arsed.
Did ITV and Channel.four turn up as well?
no lol easy mistake to make BBC as in Basildon Borough Council
[quote][p][bold]Howard Cháse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keithrg[/bold] wrote: Just to add the council do however come round and litter pick and cut the grass on a plus side, shame they don't cut the bushes to though. BBC even came out and cleared dumped rubbish because Lovell couldn't be arsed.[/p][/quote]Did ITV and Channel.four turn up as well?[/p][/quote]no lol easy mistake to make BBC as in Basildon Borough Council keithrg
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