V Festival: 16 drug arrests already

V Festival: 16 drug arrests already

V Festival: 16 drug arrests already

First published in Local News

A senior detective from Essex Police has tonight warned people heading to V Festival not to bring drugs to the site.

So far 16 members of the public have been arrested on suspicion of possession of a controlled drug. A number of those are teenagers.

They are being dealt with by officers at Hylands Park and will not be allowed entry into the site.

Detective Chief Inspector Paul Maleary said: "The people we have arrested are mostly under the age of 18. They were arrested as part of the routine stop checks and searches that officers are carrying out at the entrance sites. My message to anyone thinking of taking drugs to the event is a simple one – don’t! You will be caught. You won’t be allowed into the festival and you will face police action.”

Anyone who experiences crime at the festival can report it to Essex Police at the mobile police station or by calling 101 or 999.

For crime prevention advice and regular updates about the festival, follow Essex Police on Twitter @essexpoliceuk or like us on Facebook www.facebook.com/essexpoliceuk

 

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6:28pm Fri 15 Aug 14

sesibollox says...

Fantastic, shame as those idiots probably paid quite a lot for their tickets and thought they were in for such a treat, where as now its a case of, COME IN, NAME ADdRESS and Oh have a Seat...
Fantastic, shame as those idiots probably paid quite a lot for their tickets and thought they were in for such a treat, where as now its a case of, COME IN, NAME ADdRESS and Oh have a Seat... sesibollox
  • Score: 3

6:36pm Fri 15 Aug 14

supermadmax says...

Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/****
ault etc...
Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/**** ault etc... supermadmax
  • Score: -10

6:45pm Fri 15 Aug 14

sesibollox says...

supermadmax wrote:
Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/***
*
ault etc...
These drugs are the seeds, that lead to people to get involved with crime to pay for this evil addiction.
[quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/*** * ault etc...[/p][/quote]These drugs are the seeds, that lead to people to get involved with crime to pay for this evil addiction. sesibollox
  • Score: 17

7:29pm Fri 15 Aug 14

all.talk.no.action says...

sesibollox wrote:
Fantastic, shame as those idiots probably paid quite a lot for their tickets and thought they were in for such a treat, where as now its a case of, COME IN, NAME ADdRESS and Oh have a Seat...
Your bank manager is most probably snorting drugs of a hookers back side as we speak.
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: Fantastic, shame as those idiots probably paid quite a lot for their tickets and thought they were in for such a treat, where as now its a case of, COME IN, NAME ADdRESS and Oh have a Seat...[/p][/quote]Your bank manager is most probably snorting drugs of a hookers back side as we speak. all.talk.no.action
  • Score: 5

7:36pm Fri 15 Aug 14

sesibollox says...

all.talk.no.action wrote:
sesibollox wrote:
Fantastic, shame as those idiots probably paid quite a lot for their tickets and thought they were in for such a treat, where as now its a case of, COME IN, NAME ADdRESS and Oh have a Seat...
Your bank manager is most probably snorting drugs of a hookers back side as we speak.
The funny part being he paid for both from the interest and fees you paid last month, jog on...
[quote][p][bold]all.talk.no.action[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: Fantastic, shame as those idiots probably paid quite a lot for their tickets and thought they were in for such a treat, where as now its a case of, COME IN, NAME ADdRESS and Oh have a Seat...[/p][/quote]Your bank manager is most probably snorting drugs of a hookers back side as we speak.[/p][/quote]The funny part being he paid for both from the interest and fees you paid last month, jog on... sesibollox
  • Score: 9

7:47pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Slim678 says...

supermadmax wrote:
Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/***
*
ault etc...
Well said! My 16 year old daughter has gone and is there now, I have just spoken to her! I know what she does, I know what she will do when she gets back home and I am a married, working parent. Leave them alone to be young adults, enjoy themselves and remember you wernt born an adult. While they are there dancing and taking selfies, the scum are still on the street robbing, breaking into people's houses and vandalising properties. Just saying
[quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/*** * ault etc...[/p][/quote]Well said! My 16 year old daughter has gone and is there now, I have just spoken to her! I know what she does, I know what she will do when she gets back home and I am a married, working parent. Leave them alone to be young adults, enjoy themselves and remember you wernt born an adult. While they are there dancing and taking selfies, the scum are still on the street robbing, breaking into people's houses and vandalising properties. Just saying Slim678
  • Score: -6

8:39pm Fri 15 Aug 14

andyman1971 says...

All these illegal drugs are dangerous. They really are. Many youngster become ill or even die from these horrible drugs you speak about. Well done Essex police. I hope it's a safe event with no injuries or death due to drugs.. I really do.
All these illegal drugs are dangerous. They really are. Many youngster become ill or even die from these horrible drugs you speak about. Well done Essex police. I hope it's a safe event with no injuries or death due to drugs.. I really do. andyman1971
  • Score: 32

9:23pm Fri 15 Aug 14

co4 says...

What an overreaction by the Police and some people on this site. These kids are hardly big time dealers trying to smuggle in ounces of gear. Yes it is illegal to possess these items but the cost of the Police searches will massively outweigh the cost of the drugs recovered. Alcohol poses more of a risk to their health than a couple of pills which are probably just paracetamol and glucose powder. While Essex Police are spending hundreds of man hours at V, several real crimes are being committed as we speak.
What an overreaction by the Police and some people on this site. These kids are hardly big time dealers trying to smuggle in ounces of gear. Yes it is illegal to possess these items but the cost of the Police searches will massively outweigh the cost of the drugs recovered. Alcohol poses more of a risk to their health than a couple of pills which are probably just paracetamol and glucose powder. While Essex Police are spending hundreds of man hours at V, several real crimes are being committed as we speak. co4
  • Score: -25

9:40pm Fri 15 Aug 14

sesibollox says...

Pisss Off Your Not Welcome wrote:
andyman1971 wrote:
All these illegal drugs are dangerous. They really are. Many youngster become ill or even die from these horrible drugs you speak about. Well done Essex police. I hope it's a safe event with no injuries or death due to drugs.. I really do.
Another Idiot that just believes in the media. Drugs are not bad when taking in moderation. Alcohol is being served there, believe it or not, that is a drug! Let's not go into the debate though of drink vs drugs. I agree with the above comments. No harm is being done with young festival goers, most of whom are law abiding citizens that hold down jobs, taking a couple pills, sniffing the odd line, or smoking a joint. It's just part of our culture. It is actually part of the worlds culture come to that. The war on drugs will never be won, and I think the police know that too.
Bloody idiot...
[quote][p][bold]Pisss Off Your Not Welcome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyman1971[/bold] wrote: All these illegal drugs are dangerous. They really are. Many youngster become ill or even die from these horrible drugs you speak about. Well done Essex police. I hope it's a safe event with no injuries or death due to drugs.. I really do.[/p][/quote]Another Idiot that just believes in the media. Drugs are not bad when taking in moderation. Alcohol is being served there, believe it or not, that is a drug! Let's not go into the debate though of drink vs drugs. I agree with the above comments. No harm is being done with young festival goers, most of whom are law abiding citizens that hold down jobs, taking a couple pills, sniffing the odd line, or smoking a joint. It's just part of our culture. It is actually part of the worlds culture come to that. The war on drugs will never be won, and I think the police know that too.[/p][/quote]Bloody idiot... sesibollox
  • Score: 16

9:41pm Fri 15 Aug 14

sesibollox says...

co4 wrote:
What an overreaction by the Police and some people on this site. These kids are hardly big time dealers trying to smuggle in ounces of gear. Yes it is illegal to possess these items but the cost of the Police searches will massively outweigh the cost of the drugs recovered. Alcohol poses more of a risk to their health than a couple of pills which are probably just paracetamol and glucose powder. While Essex Police are spending hundreds of man hours at V, several real crimes are being committed as we speak.
Bloody idiot...
[quote][p][bold]co4[/bold] wrote: What an overreaction by the Police and some people on this site. These kids are hardly big time dealers trying to smuggle in ounces of gear. Yes it is illegal to possess these items but the cost of the Police searches will massively outweigh the cost of the drugs recovered. Alcohol poses more of a risk to their health than a couple of pills which are probably just paracetamol and glucose powder. While Essex Police are spending hundreds of man hours at V, several real crimes are being committed as we speak.[/p][/quote]Bloody idiot... sesibollox
  • Score: 12

9:44pm Fri 15 Aug 14

sesibollox says...

sesibollox wrote:
Fantastic, shame as those idiots probably paid quite a lot for their tickets and thought they were in for such a treat, where as now its a case of, COME IN, NAME ADdRESS and Oh have a Seat...
.
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: Fantastic, shame as those idiots probably paid quite a lot for their tickets and thought they were in for such a treat, where as now its a case of, COME IN, NAME ADdRESS and Oh have a Seat...[/p][/quote]. sesibollox
  • Score: -10

9:45pm Fri 15 Aug 14

sesibollox says...

sesibollox wrote:
sesibollox wrote:
Fantastic, shame as those idiots probably paid quite a lot for their tickets and thought they were in for such a treat, where as now its a case of, COME IN, NAME ADdRESS and Oh have a Seat...
.
.
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: Fantastic, shame as those idiots probably paid quite a lot for their tickets and thought they were in for such a treat, where as now its a case of, COME IN, NAME ADdRESS and Oh have a Seat...[/p][/quote].[/p][/quote]. sesibollox
  • Score: -11

10:27pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Robin Reliant says...

Slim678 wrote:
supermadmax wrote:
Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/***

*
ault etc...
Well said! My 16 year old daughter has gone and is there now, I have just spoken to her! I know what she does, I know what she will do when she gets back home and I am a married, working parent. Leave them alone to be young adults, enjoy themselves and remember you wernt born an adult. While they are there dancing and taking selfies, the scum are still on the street robbing, breaking into people's houses and vandalising properties. Just saying
and those same scum do those nasty crimes to pay for the drugs they crave.
[quote][p][bold]Slim678[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/*** * ault etc...[/p][/quote]Well said! My 16 year old daughter has gone and is there now, I have just spoken to her! I know what she does, I know what she will do when she gets back home and I am a married, working parent. Leave them alone to be young adults, enjoy themselves and remember you wernt born an adult. While they are there dancing and taking selfies, the scum are still on the street robbing, breaking into people's houses and vandalising properties. Just saying[/p][/quote]and those same scum do those nasty crimes to pay for the drugs they crave. Robin Reliant
  • Score: 16

10:32pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Jack222 says...

Drugs. Let us not forget they all began by drinking milk. Obviously we need to ban milk...
Drugs. Let us not forget they all began by drinking milk. Obviously we need to ban milk... Jack222
  • Score: -23

10:36pm Fri 15 Aug 14

DAGASMAN says...

sesibollox wrote:
supermadmax wrote:
Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/***
*
ault etc...
These drugs are the seeds, that lead to people to get involved with crime to pay for this evil addiction.
Theres different kinds of drugs, i doubt people are taking drugs of the evil addiction kind at a music festival. Thats like comparing all drinkers with alcoholics
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/*** * ault etc...[/p][/quote]These drugs are the seeds, that lead to people to get involved with crime to pay for this evil addiction.[/p][/quote]Theres different kinds of drugs, i doubt people are taking drugs of the evil addiction kind at a music festival. Thats like comparing all drinkers with alcoholics DAGASMAN
  • Score: -11

10:51pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Robin Reliant says...

"Well said! My 16 year old daughter has gone and is there now, I have just spoken to her! I know what she does, I know what she will do when she gets back home and I am a married, working parent. Leave them alone to be young adults"



you got any idea where it all comes from? and the crime behind it all?, the darker side of it, you witnessed it first hand? the old days are long gone.
"Well said! My 16 year old daughter has gone and is there now, I have just spoken to her! I know what she does, I know what she will do when she gets back home and I am a married, working parent. Leave them alone to be young adults" you got any idea where it all comes from? and the crime behind it all?, the darker side of it, you witnessed it first hand? the old days are long gone. Robin Reliant
  • Score: 21

12:40am Sat 16 Aug 14

Kim Gandy says...

Slim678 wrote:
supermadmax wrote:
Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/***

*
ault etc...
Well said! My 16 year old daughter has gone and is there now, I have just spoken to her! I know what she does, I know what she will do when she gets back home and I am a married, working parent. Leave them alone to be young adults, enjoy themselves and remember you wernt born an adult. While they are there dancing and taking selfies, the scum are still on the street robbing, breaking into people's houses and vandalising properties. Just saying
I have a 16 year old too - and I trust him to enjoy himself without getting as high as a kite on drugs and filling the pockets of some scumbag drug baron thankyou very much.

Strange as it may seem, it IS possible to enjoy yourself and "have a laugh" without being tanked up to the gunnels on drugs and alcohol.

Personally I cannot see the fun in getting off your face so bad you are open to all sorts of weirdoes who can take advantage while you're in a state, plus vomiting in the back of taxis and having a head full of piledrivers the next day. Not to mention rolling in the gutter or getting yourself banged up in a cell.

Yer... great fun that... The very pinnacle of orgasmic pleasure.
[quote][p][bold]Slim678[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/*** * ault etc...[/p][/quote]Well said! My 16 year old daughter has gone and is there now, I have just spoken to her! I know what she does, I know what she will do when she gets back home and I am a married, working parent. Leave them alone to be young adults, enjoy themselves and remember you wernt born an adult. While they are there dancing and taking selfies, the scum are still on the street robbing, breaking into people's houses and vandalising properties. Just saying[/p][/quote]I have a 16 year old too - and I trust him to enjoy himself without getting as high as a kite on drugs and filling the pockets of some scumbag drug baron thankyou very much. Strange as it may seem, it IS possible to enjoy yourself and "have a laugh" without being tanked up to the gunnels on drugs and alcohol. Personally I cannot see the fun in getting off your face so bad you are open to all sorts of weirdoes who can take advantage while you're in a state, plus vomiting in the back of taxis and having a head full of piledrivers the next day. Not to mention rolling in the gutter or getting yourself banged up in a cell. Yer... great fun that... The very pinnacle of orgasmic pleasure. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 9

12:44am Sat 16 Aug 14

Kim Gandy says...

Pisss Off Your Not Welcome wrote:
andyman1971 wrote:
All these illegal drugs are dangerous. They really are. Many youngster become ill or even die from these horrible drugs you speak about. Well done Essex police. I hope it's a safe event with no injuries or death due to drugs.. I really do.
Another Idiot that just believes in the media. Drugs are not bad when taking in moderation. Alcohol is being served there, believe it or not, that is a drug! Let's not go into the debate though of drink vs drugs. I agree with the above comments. No harm is being done with young festival goers, most of whom are law abiding citizens that hold down jobs, taking a couple pills, sniffing the odd line, or smoking a joint. It's just part of our culture. It is actually part of the worlds culture come to that. The war on drugs will never be won, and I think the police know that too.
For a start it's "you're" not "your"... and secondly smoking joints and sniffing the odd line are NOT part of our culture. Only the sort of culture idiots and selfish b****ds indulge in.

Nor is the addiction, early deaths, prostitution, aggravated burglary, violence, broken marriages, broken lives , shattered families and sheer devastation that goes with it.

Society is littered with drop outs and people whose minds and bodies are broken and shattered through addiction as anyone who works with them will tell you. And their loved ones are the ones who pay the price.

Grow up!
[quote][p][bold]Pisss Off Your Not Welcome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyman1971[/bold] wrote: All these illegal drugs are dangerous. They really are. Many youngster become ill or even die from these horrible drugs you speak about. Well done Essex police. I hope it's a safe event with no injuries or death due to drugs.. I really do.[/p][/quote]Another Idiot that just believes in the media. Drugs are not bad when taking in moderation. Alcohol is being served there, believe it or not, that is a drug! Let's not go into the debate though of drink vs drugs. I agree with the above comments. No harm is being done with young festival goers, most of whom are law abiding citizens that hold down jobs, taking a couple pills, sniffing the odd line, or smoking a joint. It's just part of our culture. It is actually part of the worlds culture come to that. The war on drugs will never be won, and I think the police know that too.[/p][/quote]For a start it's "you're" not "your"... and secondly smoking joints and sniffing the odd line are NOT part of our culture. Only the sort of culture idiots and selfish b****ds indulge in. Nor is the addiction, early deaths, prostitution, aggravated burglary, violence, broken marriages, broken lives , shattered families and sheer devastation that goes with it. Society is littered with drop outs and people whose minds and bodies are broken and shattered through addiction as anyone who works with them will tell you. And their loved ones are the ones who pay the price. Grow up! Kim Gandy
  • Score: 19

12:46am Sat 16 Aug 14

Kim Gandy says...

Jack222 wrote:
Drugs. Let us not forget they all began by drinking milk. Obviously we need to ban milk...
Oh for God's sake....
[quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: Drugs. Let us not forget they all began by drinking milk. Obviously we need to ban milk...[/p][/quote]Oh for God's sake.... Kim Gandy
  • Score: 4

8:49am Sat 16 Aug 14

TorreyCanyon says...

Those of you with one of 600 deadly genes known as AKT 1 variants which are unknown and untested for, run the risk and gamble of instant psychosis like one of my children and possibly similar to the Leah Betts case.
Any form of illicit substance activates the gene, even of first time use, you are then subjected to years of medication, trauma and breakdown. This is not including the new natural high drugs available that are unknown and untested. Saying my mate takes them or i have done it before with no harm, is like putting a gun to your head with Russian Roulette.
You are all absolute big headed idiots, thinking that taking drugs makes you big or outs you in another world. "Oh hey man you are looking so cool and hip". Especially when you will eventually end up on a slab in the morgue. Why not think about the families and relatives that you are ruining the hurt and pain you are causing your mums dads brothers and sisters. Its not just your life that gets messed up. Think about all the flash cars, boats, holidays, Rolex watches, nice clothes, that you are funding to the gangland crime bosses in the process. What might be a £5 spliff to you while your trying to look oh so cool, is the end process of a very long chain of wealth production.
Those of you with one of 600 deadly genes known as AKT 1 variants which are unknown and untested for, run the risk and gamble of instant psychosis like one of my children and possibly similar to the Leah Betts case. Any form of illicit substance activates the gene, even of first time use, you are then subjected to years of medication, trauma and breakdown. This is not including the new natural high drugs available that are unknown and untested. Saying my mate takes them or i have done it before with no harm, is like putting a gun to your head with Russian Roulette. You are all absolute big headed idiots, thinking that taking drugs makes you big or outs you in another world. "Oh hey man you are looking so cool and hip". Especially when you will eventually end up on a slab in the morgue. Why not think about the families and relatives that you are ruining the hurt and pain you are causing your mums dads brothers and sisters. Its not just your life that gets messed up. Think about all the flash cars, boats, holidays, Rolex watches, nice clothes, that you are funding to the gangland crime bosses in the process. What might be a £5 spliff to you while your trying to look oh so cool, is the end process of a very long chain of wealth production. TorreyCanyon
  • Score: 21

8:55am Sat 16 Aug 14

TorreyCanyon says...

Pisss Off Your Not Welcome wrote:
andyman1971 wrote:
All these illegal drugs are dangerous. They really are. Many youngster become ill or even die from these horrible drugs you speak about. Well done Essex police. I hope it's a safe event with no injuries or death due to drugs.. I really do.
Another Idiot that just believes in the media. Drugs are not bad when taking in moderation. Alcohol is being served there, believe it or not, that is a drug! Let's not go into the debate though of drink vs drugs. I agree with the above comments. No harm is being done with young festival goers, most of whom are law abiding citizens that hold down jobs, taking a couple pills, sniffing the odd line, or smoking a joint. It's just part of our culture. It is actually part of the worlds culture come to that. The war on drugs will never be won, and I think the police know that too.
BTW 50% of us have the dormant gene which is why the death rate is so prevalent. On a long term basis.
The cost of damage to society is unmeasurable.
The war on drugs was a catalytic hit back from our enemies in the far east, who saw it as a way of killing their adversaries in a passive style attack.
Our children our now paying the price for sins of past glories.
[quote][p][bold]Pisss Off Your Not Welcome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyman1971[/bold] wrote: All these illegal drugs are dangerous. They really are. Many youngster become ill or even die from these horrible drugs you speak about. Well done Essex police. I hope it's a safe event with no injuries or death due to drugs.. I really do.[/p][/quote]Another Idiot that just believes in the media. Drugs are not bad when taking in moderation. Alcohol is being served there, believe it or not, that is a drug! Let's not go into the debate though of drink vs drugs. I agree with the above comments. No harm is being done with young festival goers, most of whom are law abiding citizens that hold down jobs, taking a couple pills, sniffing the odd line, or smoking a joint. It's just part of our culture. It is actually part of the worlds culture come to that. The war on drugs will never be won, and I think the police know that too.[/p][/quote]BTW 50% of us have the dormant gene which is why the death rate is so prevalent. On a long term basis. The cost of damage to society is unmeasurable. The war on drugs was a catalytic hit back from our enemies in the far east, who saw it as a way of killing their adversaries in a passive style attack. Our children our now paying the price for sins of past glories. TorreyCanyon
  • Score: 11

9:02am Sat 16 Aug 14

sesibollox says...

Pisss Off Your Not Welcome wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
Pisss Off Your Not Welcome wrote:
andyman1971 wrote:
All these illegal drugs are dangerous. They really are. Many youngster become ill or even die from these horrible drugs you speak about. Well done Essex police. I hope it's a safe event with no injuries or death due to drugs.. I really do.
Another Idiot that just believes in the media. Drugs are not bad when taking in moderation. Alcohol is being served there, believe it or not, that is a drug! Let's not go into the debate though of drink vs drugs. I agree with the above comments. No harm is being done with young festival goers, most of whom are law abiding citizens that hold down jobs, taking a couple pills, sniffing the odd line, or smoking a joint. It's just part of our culture. It is actually part of the worlds culture come to that. The war on drugs will never be won, and I think the police know that too.
For a start it's "you're" not "your"... and secondly smoking joints and sniffing the odd line are NOT part of our culture. Only the sort of culture idiots and selfish b****ds indulge in.

Nor is the addiction, early deaths, prostitution, aggravated burglary, violence, broken marriages, broken lives , shattered families and sheer devastation that goes with it.

Society is littered with drop outs and people whose minds and bodies are broken and shattered through addiction as anyone who works with them will tell you. And their loved ones are the ones who pay the price.

Grow up!
Notice that i said 'in moderation'. There not drug users they are just taking them as it is a festival. And i'm afraid Gandy drugs IS part of our culture. They are everywhere nowadays.

You could say the same about alcohol. That ruins lives. But your local shop still serves it. Some drugs are actually safer then alcohol.

And I'm sure your little darling of a son is so wrapped up in cotton wool by his MP mummy that he wouldn't dare to put a foot wrong. He has to be the unluckiest kid alive to have you as a mum.
What a complete and utter KN0B U R
[quote][p][bold]Pisss Off Your Not Welcome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pisss Off Your Not Welcome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyman1971[/bold] wrote: All these illegal drugs are dangerous. They really are. Many youngster become ill or even die from these horrible drugs you speak about. Well done Essex police. I hope it's a safe event with no injuries or death due to drugs.. I really do.[/p][/quote]Another Idiot that just believes in the media. Drugs are not bad when taking in moderation. Alcohol is being served there, believe it or not, that is a drug! Let's not go into the debate though of drink vs drugs. I agree with the above comments. No harm is being done with young festival goers, most of whom are law abiding citizens that hold down jobs, taking a couple pills, sniffing the odd line, or smoking a joint. It's just part of our culture. It is actually part of the worlds culture come to that. The war on drugs will never be won, and I think the police know that too.[/p][/quote]For a start it's "you're" not "your"... and secondly smoking joints and sniffing the odd line are NOT part of our culture. Only the sort of culture idiots and selfish b****ds indulge in. Nor is the addiction, early deaths, prostitution, aggravated burglary, violence, broken marriages, broken lives , shattered families and sheer devastation that goes with it. Society is littered with drop outs and people whose minds and bodies are broken and shattered through addiction as anyone who works with them will tell you. And their loved ones are the ones who pay the price. Grow up![/p][/quote]Notice that i said 'in moderation'. There not drug users they are just taking them as it is a festival. And i'm afraid Gandy drugs IS part of our culture. They are everywhere nowadays. You could say the same about alcohol. That ruins lives. But your local shop still serves it. Some drugs are actually safer then alcohol. And I'm sure your little darling of a son is so wrapped up in cotton wool by his MP mummy that he wouldn't dare to put a foot wrong. He has to be the unluckiest kid alive to have you as a mum.[/p][/quote]What a complete and utter KN0B U R sesibollox
  • Score: 19

9:20am Sat 16 Aug 14

Bernard Manning says...

Great police work....... like shooting fish in a barrel.
Great police work....... like shooting fish in a barrel. Bernard Manning
  • Score: 15

9:20am Sat 16 Aug 14

sesibollox says...

sesibollox wrote:
supermadmax wrote:
Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/***

*
ault etc...
These drugs are the seeds, that lead to people to get involved with crime to pay for this evil addiction.
.
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/*** * ault etc...[/p][/quote]These drugs are the seeds, that lead to people to get involved with crime to pay for this evil addiction.[/p][/quote]. sesibollox
  • Score: 5

9:22am Sat 16 Aug 14

sesibollox says...

TorreyCanyon wrote:
Those of you with one of 600 deadly genes known as AKT 1 variants which are unknown and untested for, run the risk and gamble of instant psychosis like one of my children and possibly similar to the Leah Betts case.
Any form of illicit substance activates the gene, even of first time use, you are then subjected to years of medication, trauma and breakdown. This is not including the new natural high drugs available that are unknown and untested. Saying my mate takes them or i have done it before with no harm, is like putting a gun to your head with Russian Roulette.
You are all absolute big headed idiots, thinking that taking drugs makes you big or outs you in another world. "Oh hey man you are looking so cool and hip". Especially when you will eventually end up on a slab in the morgue. Why not think about the families and relatives that you are ruining the hurt and pain you are causing your mums dads brothers and sisters. Its not just your life that gets messed up. Think about all the flash cars, boats, holidays, Rolex watches, nice clothes, that you are funding to the gangland crime bosses in the process. What might be a £5 spliff to you while your trying to look oh so cool, is the end process of a very long chain of wealth production.
So true
[quote][p][bold]TorreyCanyon[/bold] wrote: Those of you with one of 600 deadly genes known as AKT 1 variants which are unknown and untested for, run the risk and gamble of instant psychosis like one of my children and possibly similar to the Leah Betts case. Any form of illicit substance activates the gene, even of first time use, you are then subjected to years of medication, trauma and breakdown. This is not including the new natural high drugs available that are unknown and untested. Saying my mate takes them or i have done it before with no harm, is like putting a gun to your head with Russian Roulette. You are all absolute big headed idiots, thinking that taking drugs makes you big or outs you in another world. "Oh hey man you are looking so cool and hip". Especially when you will eventually end up on a slab in the morgue. Why not think about the families and relatives that you are ruining the hurt and pain you are causing your mums dads brothers and sisters. Its not just your life that gets messed up. Think about all the flash cars, boats, holidays, Rolex watches, nice clothes, that you are funding to the gangland crime bosses in the process. What might be a £5 spliff to you while your trying to look oh so cool, is the end process of a very long chain of wealth production.[/p][/quote]So true sesibollox
  • Score: 10

9:41am Sat 16 Aug 14

all.talk.no.action says...

sesibollox wrote:
all.talk.no.action wrote:
sesibollox wrote:
Fantastic, shame as those idiots probably paid quite a lot for their tickets and thought they were in for such a treat, where as now its a case of, COME IN, NAME ADdRESS and Oh have a Seat...
Your bank manager is most probably snorting drugs of a hookers back side as we speak.
The funny part being he paid for both from the interest and fees you paid last month, jog on...
Just a case of projecting yourself and your bad money management on to me...who I might add you don't know. "Jog on" prison term I believe.
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]all.talk.no.action[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: Fantastic, shame as those idiots probably paid quite a lot for their tickets and thought they were in for such a treat, where as now its a case of, COME IN, NAME ADdRESS and Oh have a Seat...[/p][/quote]Your bank manager is most probably snorting drugs of a hookers back side as we speak.[/p][/quote]The funny part being he paid for both from the interest and fees you paid last month, jog on...[/p][/quote]Just a case of projecting yourself and your bad money management on to me...who I might add you don't know. "Jog on" prison term I believe. all.talk.no.action
  • Score: 1

9:43am Sat 16 Aug 14

all.talk.no.action says...

Pisss Off Your Not Welcome wrote:
andyman1971 wrote:
All these illegal drugs are dangerous. They really are. Many youngster become ill or even die from these horrible drugs you speak about. Well done Essex police. I hope it's a safe event with no injuries or death due to drugs.. I really do.
Another Idiot that just believes in the media. Drugs are not bad when taking in moderation. Alcohol is being served there, believe it or not, that is a drug! Let's not go into the debate though of drink vs drugs. I agree with the above comments. No harm is being done with young festival goers, most of whom are law abiding citizens that hold down jobs, taking a couple pills, sniffing the odd line, or smoking a joint. It's just part of our culture. It is actually part of the worlds culture come to that. The war on drugs will never be won, and I think the police know that too.
The most open minded comment here.
[quote][p][bold]Pisss Off Your Not Welcome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyman1971[/bold] wrote: All these illegal drugs are dangerous. They really are. Many youngster become ill or even die from these horrible drugs you speak about. Well done Essex police. I hope it's a safe event with no injuries or death due to drugs.. I really do.[/p][/quote]Another Idiot that just believes in the media. Drugs are not bad when taking in moderation. Alcohol is being served there, believe it or not, that is a drug! Let's not go into the debate though of drink vs drugs. I agree with the above comments. No harm is being done with young festival goers, most of whom are law abiding citizens that hold down jobs, taking a couple pills, sniffing the odd line, or smoking a joint. It's just part of our culture. It is actually part of the worlds culture come to that. The war on drugs will never be won, and I think the police know that too.[/p][/quote]The most open minded comment here. all.talk.no.action
  • Score: -1

9:46am Sat 16 Aug 14

all.talk.no.action says...

Robin Reliant wrote:
"Well said! My 16 year old daughter has gone and is there now, I have just spoken to her! I know what she does, I know what she will do when she gets back home and I am a married, working parent. Leave them alone to be young adults"



you got any idea where it all comes from? and the crime behind it all?, the darker side of it, you witnessed it first hand? the old days are long gone.
Yea I comes frome bank manageres and the goverments.
[quote][p][bold]Robin Reliant[/bold] wrote: "Well said! My 16 year old daughter has gone and is there now, I have just spoken to her! I know what she does, I know what she will do when she gets back home and I am a married, working parent. Leave them alone to be young adults" you got any idea where it all comes from? and the crime behind it all?, the darker side of it, you witnessed it first hand? the old days are long gone.[/p][/quote]Yea I comes frome bank manageres and the goverments. all.talk.no.action
  • Score: -9

9:52am Sat 16 Aug 14

all.talk.no.action says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Pisss Off Your Not Welcome wrote:
andyman1971 wrote:
All these illegal drugs are dangerous. They really are. Many youngster become ill or even die from these horrible drugs you speak about. Well done Essex police. I hope it's a safe event with no injuries or death due to drugs.. I really do.
Another Idiot that just believes in the media. Drugs are not bad when taking in moderation. Alcohol is being served there, believe it or not, that is a drug! Let's not go into the debate though of drink vs drugs. I agree with the above comments. No harm is being done with young festival goers, most of whom are law abiding citizens that hold down jobs, taking a couple pills, sniffing the odd line, or smoking a joint. It's just part of our culture. It is actually part of the worlds culture come to that. The war on drugs will never be won, and I think the police know that too.
For a start it's "you're" not "your"... and secondly smoking joints and sniffing the odd line are NOT part of our culture. Only the sort of culture idiots and selfish b****ds indulge in.

Nor is the addiction, early deaths, prostitution, aggravated burglary, violence, broken marriages, broken lives , shattered families and sheer devastation that goes with it.

Society is littered with drop outs and people whose minds and bodies are broken and shattered through addiction as anyone who works with them will tell you. And their loved ones are the ones who pay the price.

Grow up!
What a sheltered life you must of led.
There are billions of people who take drugs, hold down a job, and dont bother any one. All the best artists especially music artists in the world take some kind of drug.
Get over it.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pisss Off Your Not Welcome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyman1971[/bold] wrote: All these illegal drugs are dangerous. They really are. Many youngster become ill or even die from these horrible drugs you speak about. Well done Essex police. I hope it's a safe event with no injuries or death due to drugs.. I really do.[/p][/quote]Another Idiot that just believes in the media. Drugs are not bad when taking in moderation. Alcohol is being served there, believe it or not, that is a drug! Let's not go into the debate though of drink vs drugs. I agree with the above comments. No harm is being done with young festival goers, most of whom are law abiding citizens that hold down jobs, taking a couple pills, sniffing the odd line, or smoking a joint. It's just part of our culture. It is actually part of the worlds culture come to that. The war on drugs will never be won, and I think the police know that too.[/p][/quote]For a start it's "you're" not "your"... and secondly smoking joints and sniffing the odd line are NOT part of our culture. Only the sort of culture idiots and selfish b****ds indulge in. Nor is the addiction, early deaths, prostitution, aggravated burglary, violence, broken marriages, broken lives , shattered families and sheer devastation that goes with it. Society is littered with drop outs and people whose minds and bodies are broken and shattered through addiction as anyone who works with them will tell you. And their loved ones are the ones who pay the price. Grow up![/p][/quote]What a sheltered life you must of led. There are billions of people who take drugs, hold down a job, and dont bother any one. All the best artists especially music artists in the world take some kind of drug. Get over it. all.talk.no.action
  • Score: -7

10:02am Sat 16 Aug 14

Robin Reliant says...

all.talk.no.action wrote:
Robin Reliant wrote:
"Well said! My 16 year old daughter has gone and is there now, I have just spoken to her! I know what she does, I know what she will do when she gets back home and I am a married, working parent. Leave them alone to be young adults"



you got any idea where it all comes from? and the crime behind it all?, the darker side of it, you witnessed it first hand? the old days are long gone.
Yea I comes frome bank manageres and the goverments.
And the Deepest West Country by the sounds of it.
[quote][p][bold]all.talk.no.action[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin Reliant[/bold] wrote: "Well said! My 16 year old daughter has gone and is there now, I have just spoken to her! I know what she does, I know what she will do when she gets back home and I am a married, working parent. Leave them alone to be young adults" you got any idea where it all comes from? and the crime behind it all?, the darker side of it, you witnessed it first hand? the old days are long gone.[/p][/quote]Yea I comes frome bank manageres and the goverments.[/p][/quote]And the Deepest West Country by the sounds of it. Robin Reliant
  • Score: 7

10:15am Sat 16 Aug 14

Robin Reliant says...

all.talk.no.action wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
Pisss Off Your Not Welcome wrote:
andyman1971 wrote:
All these illegal drugs are dangerous. They really are. Many youngster become ill or even die from these horrible drugs you speak about. Well done Essex police. I hope it's a safe event with no injuries or death due to drugs.. I really do.
Another Idiot that just believes in the media. Drugs are not bad when taking in moderation. Alcohol is being served there, believe it or not, that is a drug! Let's not go into the debate though of drink vs drugs. I agree with the above comments. No harm is being done with young festival goers, most of whom are law abiding citizens that hold down jobs, taking a couple pills, sniffing the odd line, or smoking a joint. It's just part of our culture. It is actually part of the worlds culture come to that. The war on drugs will never be won, and I think the police know that too.
For a start it's "you're" not "your"... and secondly smoking joints and sniffing the odd line are NOT part of our culture. Only the sort of culture idiots and selfish b****ds indulge in.

Nor is the addiction, early deaths, prostitution, aggravated burglary, violence, broken marriages, broken lives , shattered families and sheer devastation that goes with it.

Society is littered with drop outs and people whose minds and bodies are broken and shattered through addiction as anyone who works with them will tell you. And their loved ones are the ones who pay the price.

Grow up!
What a sheltered life you must of led.
There are billions of people who take drugs, hold down a job, and dont bother any one. All the best artists especially music artists in the world take some kind of drug.
Get over it.
Yeah like Errrr Peaches Geldof(Mum of the year),along with her Mum Paula, and Errr Rick James, and Mmmm Ike Turner, John Entwhistle,Ronnie Scott, Witney Houston, and the hundreds that battle addiction everyday, those that are high and are involved in Traffic accidents and kill innocents, theres possibly a endless list all connected, the gangs that cultivate just so your kids can have a puff and a giggle, the crime thats associated with it yeah thats right Get Over it.
[quote][p][bold]all.talk.no.action[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pisss Off Your Not Welcome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyman1971[/bold] wrote: All these illegal drugs are dangerous. They really are. Many youngster become ill or even die from these horrible drugs you speak about. Well done Essex police. I hope it's a safe event with no injuries or death due to drugs.. I really do.[/p][/quote]Another Idiot that just believes in the media. Drugs are not bad when taking in moderation. Alcohol is being served there, believe it or not, that is a drug! Let's not go into the debate though of drink vs drugs. I agree with the above comments. No harm is being done with young festival goers, most of whom are law abiding citizens that hold down jobs, taking a couple pills, sniffing the odd line, or smoking a joint. It's just part of our culture. It is actually part of the worlds culture come to that. The war on drugs will never be won, and I think the police know that too.[/p][/quote]For a start it's "you're" not "your"... and secondly smoking joints and sniffing the odd line are NOT part of our culture. Only the sort of culture idiots and selfish b****ds indulge in. Nor is the addiction, early deaths, prostitution, aggravated burglary, violence, broken marriages, broken lives , shattered families and sheer devastation that goes with it. Society is littered with drop outs and people whose minds and bodies are broken and shattered through addiction as anyone who works with them will tell you. And their loved ones are the ones who pay the price. Grow up![/p][/quote]What a sheltered life you must of led. There are billions of people who take drugs, hold down a job, and dont bother any one. All the best artists especially music artists in the world take some kind of drug. Get over it.[/p][/quote]Yeah like Errrr Peaches Geldof(Mum of the year),along with her Mum Paula, and Errr Rick James, and Mmmm Ike Turner, John Entwhistle,Ronnie Scott, Witney Houston, and the hundreds that battle addiction everyday, those that are high and are involved in Traffic accidents and kill innocents, theres possibly a endless list all connected, the gangs that cultivate just so your kids can have a puff and a giggle, the crime thats associated with it yeah thats right Get Over it. Robin Reliant
  • Score: 8

10:48am Sat 16 Aug 14

H.79 says...

To those who say it's part of society - very sadly that is true and that is the problem.
Whilst you may think it's ok for teenage kids, or anyone else for that matter, to smoke the odd joint or take a pill 'cause it's harmless fun, maybe look further up the chain at the bigger picture - those supplying the drugs are not usually the greatest or fortunate of characters - often committing crimes such as theft (causing distress to those affected) to fund their own habits and to pay off those higher up the chain to keep them off their backs for a while. The "middle class kids having fun", as someone mentioned, who are paying for the drugs are just keeping the chain going.
Whilst we all know drug dealing will never stop; because of the power of those at the top of the chain, maybe think about the destruction caused - vulnerable people who end up selling drugs to either keep their own habits alive or to live an undesirable life. Maybe it's the current society that caused them to be that way in the first place - the possibility of broken homes or unstable family life could have been the push that lead them into that life, or maybe it could have been the other end of the spectrum - spoiled kids whose parents give more money than love, leading them to get involved with that kind of lifestyle to satisfy their boredom or fill the void of something lacking in their life.
It may be part of society, but it doesn't make it right.
To those who say it's part of society - very sadly that is true and that is the problem. Whilst you may think it's ok for teenage kids, or anyone else for that matter, to smoke the odd joint or take a pill 'cause it's harmless fun, maybe look further up the chain at the bigger picture - those supplying the drugs are not usually the greatest or fortunate of characters - often committing crimes such as theft (causing distress to those affected) to fund their own habits and to pay off those higher up the chain to keep them off their backs for a while. The "middle class kids having fun", as someone mentioned, who are paying for the drugs are just keeping the chain going. Whilst we all know drug dealing will never stop; because of the power of those at the top of the chain, maybe think about the destruction caused - vulnerable people who end up selling drugs to either keep their own habits alive or to live an undesirable life. Maybe it's the current society that caused them to be that way in the first place - the possibility of broken homes or unstable family life could have been the push that lead them into that life, or maybe it could have been the other end of the spectrum - spoiled kids whose parents give more money than love, leading them to get involved with that kind of lifestyle to satisfy their boredom or fill the void of something lacking in their life. It may be part of society, but it doesn't make it right. H.79
  • Score: 4

10:54am Sat 16 Aug 14

andyman1971 says...

co4 wrote:
What an overreaction by the Police and some people on this site. These kids are hardly big time dealers trying to smuggle in ounces of gear. Yes it is illegal to possess these items but the cost of the Police searches will massively outweigh the cost of the drugs recovered. Alcohol poses more of a risk to their health than a couple of pills which are probably just paracetamol and glucose powder. While Essex Police are spending hundreds of man hours at V, several real crimes are being committed as we speak.
I'm afraid to say your the idiot in this matter you complete fool. Do you have any idea what your saying. Un prescribed drugs are extremely dangerous. I deal with Heroin addicts weekly, these people would also agree with me that drugs ruin lives.
As for fun or recreation drugs, let's think of Lea Betts as well as others. Do you know what the drugs are cut with, I do and I certainly wouldn't want them in my body. Your actually safer and the odds are in your favour playing Russian roulette with a revolver!

To take the stance that it's safe and ok is outrageous, your clearly not a parent. Any parent knowingly sending their child to V knowing they are or likely to take illegal drugs should be prosecuted, better still get a visit from social services and explained the duties of being a parent and protecting the fledglings. Get a life... and a job your complete fool.
[quote][p][bold]co4[/bold] wrote: What an overreaction by the Police and some people on this site. These kids are hardly big time dealers trying to smuggle in ounces of gear. Yes it is illegal to possess these items but the cost of the Police searches will massively outweigh the cost of the drugs recovered. Alcohol poses more of a risk to their health than a couple of pills which are probably just paracetamol and glucose powder. While Essex Police are spending hundreds of man hours at V, several real crimes are being committed as we speak.[/p][/quote]I'm afraid to say your the idiot in this matter you complete fool. Do you have any idea what your saying. Un prescribed drugs are extremely dangerous. I deal with Heroin addicts weekly, these people would also agree with me that drugs ruin lives. As for fun or recreation drugs, let's think of Lea Betts as well as others. Do you know what the drugs are cut with, I do and I certainly wouldn't want them in my body. Your actually safer and the odds are in your favour playing Russian roulette with a revolver! To take the stance that it's safe and ok is outrageous, your clearly not a parent. Any parent knowingly sending their child to V knowing they are or likely to take illegal drugs should be prosecuted, better still get a visit from social services and explained the duties of being a parent and protecting the fledglings. Get a life... and a job your complete fool. andyman1971
  • Score: 6

10:56am Sat 16 Aug 14

andyman1971 says...

Jack222 wrote:
Drugs. Let us not forget they all began by drinking milk. Obviously we need to ban milk...
You complete CLOCK. With a silent L of course
[quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: Drugs. Let us not forget they all began by drinking milk. Obviously we need to ban milk...[/p][/quote]You complete CLOCK. With a silent L of course andyman1971
  • Score: 7

11:25am Sat 16 Aug 14

pierre-pierre says...

what did Robbie Williams die of? Drugs of course - never did him any harm, just killed him
what did Robbie Williams die of? Drugs of course - never did him any harm, just killed him pierre-pierre
  • Score: -13

11:33am Sat 16 Aug 14

pierre-pierre says...

Last week, the Local Government Association issued a health warning about nitrous oxide and said councils were seizing large hauls of the drug.

Abusing the substance can lead to oxygen deprivation, resulting in loss of blood pressure, fainting and even heart attacks.

Crime Prevention Minister Norman Baker said: "All too often young people take their lives into their own hands by dabbling with so-called 'legal' highs when they don't even know if they are safe, let alone legal.

"Some of these substances are proven to be more dangerous than illegal drugs and it is vital that young people are informed about the risks associated with their use."
Last week, the Local Government Association issued a health warning about nitrous oxide and said councils were seizing large hauls of the drug. Abusing the substance can lead to oxygen deprivation, resulting in loss of blood pressure, fainting and even heart attacks. Crime Prevention Minister Norman Baker said: "All too often young people take their lives into their own hands by dabbling with so-called 'legal' highs when they don't even know if they are safe, let alone legal. "Some of these substances are proven to be more dangerous than illegal drugs and it is vital that young people are informed about the risks associated with their use." pierre-pierre
  • Score: 3

11:47am Sat 16 Aug 14

FreddyF says...

sesibollox wrote:
supermadmax wrote:
Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/***

*
ault etc...
These drugs are the seeds, that lead to people to get involved with crime to pay for this evil addiction.
What utter prohbitionist nonsense. MDMA is not that addictive and those that use it are not "addicts". Do you read the Daily Mail or what?
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/*** * ault etc...[/p][/quote]These drugs are the seeds, that lead to people to get involved with crime to pay for this evil addiction.[/p][/quote]What utter prohbitionist nonsense. MDMA is not that addictive and those that use it are not "addicts". Do you read the Daily Mail or what? FreddyF
  • Score: 4

11:52am Sat 16 Aug 14

FreddyF says...

pierre-pierre wrote:
what did Robbie Williams die of? Drugs of course - never did him any harm, just killed him
If it was a suicide then it was obviously intentional. I'm not sure what your point is here. As far as I am aware he didn't try and overdose on MDMA, which is the drug most likely to be used at these events.
[quote][p][bold]pierre-pierre[/bold] wrote: what did Robbie Williams die of? Drugs of course - never did him any harm, just killed him[/p][/quote]If it was a suicide then it was obviously intentional. I'm not sure what your point is here. As far as I am aware he didn't try and overdose on MDMA, which is the drug most likely to be used at these events. FreddyF
  • Score: -1

12:00pm Sat 16 Aug 14

sesibollox says...

FreddyF wrote:
sesibollox wrote:
supermadmax wrote:
Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/***


*
ault etc...
These drugs are the seeds, that lead to people to get involved with crime to pay for this evil addiction.
What utter prohbitionist nonsense. MDMA is not that addictive and those that use it are not "addicts". Do you read the Daily Mail or what?
I read WHAT, are you a Sun reader by any chance ? as your idiotic defence of the druggie scum bag culture stands out, like a bleeding an@l wart.
[quote][p][bold]FreddyF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/*** * ault etc...[/p][/quote]These drugs are the seeds, that lead to people to get involved with crime to pay for this evil addiction.[/p][/quote]What utter prohbitionist nonsense. MDMA is not that addictive and those that use it are not "addicts". Do you read the Daily Mail or what?[/p][/quote]I read WHAT, are you a Sun reader by any chance ? as your idiotic defence of the druggie scum bag culture stands out, like a bleeding an@l wart. sesibollox
  • Score: 1

12:06pm Sat 16 Aug 14

IPhonesRock says...

What would concern me is the process used in making these drugs. The cannabis today isn't always the same as in the 60s, 70s etc. it very often gets stuff added to it to make it more lucrative for the dealers. Also with tablets, these 'legal highs' can be ridiculously harmful. One bad batch of anything....one snort, one pill popped....well how do you know what batch it's from?

Smoke weed if you want but grow it yourself so you know what's in it.

With alcohol you know exactly what's in it unless some ar5e has spiked it. You know the unopened bottle of vodka is just that - a bottle of vodka. Who knows what that little tablet out of that bag in someone's back pocket is made of?

Scary sh1t in my opinion
What would concern me is the process used in making these drugs. The cannabis today isn't always the same as in the 60s, 70s etc. it very often gets stuff added to it to make it more lucrative for the dealers. Also with tablets, these 'legal highs' can be ridiculously harmful. One bad batch of anything....one snort, one pill popped....well how do you know what batch it's from? Smoke weed if you want but grow it yourself so you know what's in it. With alcohol you know exactly what's in it unless some ar5e has spiked it. You know the unopened bottle of vodka is just that - a bottle of vodka. Who knows what that little tablet out of that bag in someone's back pocket is made of? Scary sh1t in my opinion IPhonesRock
  • Score: 7

12:39pm Sat 16 Aug 14

PaulWagland says...

I find it interesting that the people who've never taken drugs seem to know so much about the subject.

Taking MDMA doesn't lead to other drugs. It's like suggesting nicotine is a gateway drug to cannabis. Or alcohol is a gateway drug to heroin. Simply ridiculous. Sure, if people are willing to try coke then maybe they're also willing to try MDMA. One doesn't cause the other though. What makes people take the really dangerous drugs (ie heroin or crack) is usually some kind of psychological problem. Neither does such a drug drive you to criminality - alcohol is far and away the leading cause of violent crime and vandalism. The worst you'll get off someone on MDMA is a big hug and a declaration of undying love. They should be prescribing the stuff, not criminalising it!

Let's try and rely on the evidence shall we, rather than personal opinion?
I find it interesting that the people who've never taken drugs seem to know so much about the subject. Taking MDMA doesn't lead to other drugs. It's like suggesting nicotine is a gateway drug to cannabis. Or alcohol is a gateway drug to heroin. Simply ridiculous. Sure, if people are willing to try coke then maybe they're also willing to try MDMA. One doesn't cause the other though. What makes people take the really dangerous drugs (ie heroin or crack) is usually some kind of psychological problem. Neither does such a drug drive you to criminality - alcohol is far and away the leading cause of violent crime and vandalism. The worst you'll get off someone on MDMA is a big hug and a declaration of undying love. They should be prescribing the stuff, not criminalising it! Let's try and rely on the evidence shall we, rather than personal opinion? PaulWagland
  • Score: -1

1:15pm Sat 16 Aug 14

SOMETHING2SAY says...

Its called " having fun "...loads of us has dabbled......it doesnt make a smackhead/rapist/mur
derer.....it will always go on.....yes...there is crap drugs out there......and some **** good ones !!!! Its a festival/ party / good managed festival....loads of live music.........when you put 1000's in one field...of course theres going to be an issue. Go to a festival.....take in the vibe....and if you want to...dabble...and enjoy....no one is perfect...... have fun in this sh** world we live in ! Go forth and trip !! Its all part of growing up !!
Its called " having fun "...loads of us has dabbled......it doesnt make a smackhead/rapist/mur derer.....it will always go on.....yes...there is crap drugs out there......and some **** good ones !!!! Its a festival/ party / good managed festival....loads of live music.........when you put 1000's in one field...of course theres going to be an issue. Go to a festival.....take in the vibe....and if you want to...dabble...and enjoy....no one is perfect...... have fun in this sh** world we live in ! Go forth and trip !! Its all part of growing up !! SOMETHING2SAY
  • Score: -8

1:20pm Sat 16 Aug 14

stopmoaning1 says...

Pisss Off Your Not Welcome wrote:
andyman1971 wrote:
All these illegal drugs are dangerous. They really are. Many youngster become ill or even die from these horrible drugs you speak about. Well done Essex police. I hope it's a safe event with no injuries or death due to drugs.. I really do.
Another Idiot that just believes in the media. Drugs are not bad when taking in moderation. Alcohol is being served there, believe it or not, that is a drug! Let's not go into the debate though of drink vs drugs. I agree with the above comments. No harm is being done with young festival goers, most of whom are law abiding citizens that hold down jobs, taking a couple pills, sniffing the odd line, or smoking a joint. It's just part of our culture. It is actually part of the worlds culture come to that. The war on drugs will never be won, and I think the police know that too.
Love the way you have misspelt your own username, or do you think I own a 'not welcome' and want me to really annoy it?
[quote][p][bold]Pisss Off Your Not Welcome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyman1971[/bold] wrote: All these illegal drugs are dangerous. They really are. Many youngster become ill or even die from these horrible drugs you speak about. Well done Essex police. I hope it's a safe event with no injuries or death due to drugs.. I really do.[/p][/quote]Another Idiot that just believes in the media. Drugs are not bad when taking in moderation. Alcohol is being served there, believe it or not, that is a drug! Let's not go into the debate though of drink vs drugs. I agree with the above comments. No harm is being done with young festival goers, most of whom are law abiding citizens that hold down jobs, taking a couple pills, sniffing the odd line, or smoking a joint. It's just part of our culture. It is actually part of the worlds culture come to that. The war on drugs will never be won, and I think the police know that too.[/p][/quote]Love the way you have misspelt your own username, or do you think I own a 'not welcome' and want me to really annoy it? stopmoaning1
  • Score: 8

2:06pm Sat 16 Aug 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Its called " having fun "...loads of us has dabbled......it doesnt make a smackhead/rapist/mur

derer.....it will always go on.....yes...there is crap drugs out there......and some **** good ones !!!! Its a festival/ party / good managed festival....loads of live music.........when you put 1000's in one field...of course theres going to be an issue. Go to a festival.....take in the vibe....and if you want to...dabble...and enjoy....no one is perfect...... have fun in this sh** world we live in ! Go forth and trip !! Its all part of growing up !!
Bell End.
[quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: Its called " having fun "...loads of us has dabbled......it doesnt make a smackhead/rapist/mur derer.....it will always go on.....yes...there is crap drugs out there......and some **** good ones !!!! Its a festival/ party / good managed festival....loads of live music.........when you put 1000's in one field...of course theres going to be an issue. Go to a festival.....take in the vibe....and if you want to...dabble...and enjoy....no one is perfect...... have fun in this sh** world we live in ! Go forth and trip !! Its all part of growing up !![/p][/quote]Bell End. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 11

2:14pm Sat 16 Aug 14

FreddyF says...

sesibollox wrote:
FreddyF wrote:
sesibollox wrote:
supermadmax wrote:
Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/***



*
ault etc...
These drugs are the seeds, that lead to people to get involved with crime to pay for this evil addiction.
What utter prohbitionist nonsense. MDMA is not that addictive and those that use it are not "addicts". Do you read the Daily Mail or what?
I read WHAT, are you a Sun reader by any chance ? as your idiotic defence of the druggie scum bag culture stands out, like a bleeding an@l wart.
Your urgent need of anger management treatment stands out too.
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FreddyF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/*** * ault etc...[/p][/quote]These drugs are the seeds, that lead to people to get involved with crime to pay for this evil addiction.[/p][/quote]What utter prohbitionist nonsense. MDMA is not that addictive and those that use it are not "addicts". Do you read the Daily Mail or what?[/p][/quote]I read WHAT, are you a Sun reader by any chance ? as your idiotic defence of the druggie scum bag culture stands out, like a bleeding an@l wart.[/p][/quote]Your urgent need of anger management treatment stands out too. FreddyF
  • Score: -6

2:26pm Sat 16 Aug 14

pembury53 says...

PaulWagland wrote:
I find it interesting that the people who've never taken drugs seem to know so much about the subject.

Taking MDMA doesn't lead to other drugs. It's like suggesting nicotine is a gateway drug to cannabis. Or alcohol is a gateway drug to heroin. Simply ridiculous. Sure, if people are willing to try coke then maybe they're also willing to try MDMA. One doesn't cause the other though. What makes people take the really dangerous drugs (ie heroin or crack) is usually some kind of psychological problem. Neither does such a drug drive you to criminality - alcohol is far and away the leading cause of violent crime and vandalism. The worst you'll get off someone on MDMA is a big hug and a declaration of undying love. They should be prescribing the stuff, not criminalising it!

Let's try and rely on the evidence shall we, rather than personal opinion?
another interesting fact is the venemous hate of those that don't take any (illegal) drugs, rather than just getting on with their own lives and addictions and leaving others to their chosen recreation. what always makes me laugh is the "my life is so fulfiled i don't need drugs"...... well, if that's the case what are they complaining about, sounds like they've got life nailed..... actually, if you think about it, it's just a form of envy, because deep down they know their missing out.....
[quote][p][bold]PaulWagland[/bold] wrote: I find it interesting that the people who've never taken drugs seem to know so much about the subject. Taking MDMA doesn't lead to other drugs. It's like suggesting nicotine is a gateway drug to cannabis. Or alcohol is a gateway drug to heroin. Simply ridiculous. Sure, if people are willing to try coke then maybe they're also willing to try MDMA. One doesn't cause the other though. What makes people take the really dangerous drugs (ie heroin or crack) is usually some kind of psychological problem. Neither does such a drug drive you to criminality - alcohol is far and away the leading cause of violent crime and vandalism. The worst you'll get off someone on MDMA is a big hug and a declaration of undying love. They should be prescribing the stuff, not criminalising it! Let's try and rely on the evidence shall we, rather than personal opinion?[/p][/quote]another interesting fact is the venemous hate of those that don't take any (illegal) drugs, rather than just getting on with their own lives and addictions and leaving others to their chosen recreation. what always makes me laugh is the "my life is so fulfiled i don't need drugs"...... well, if that's the case what are they complaining about, sounds like they've got life nailed..... actually, if you think about it, it's just a form of envy, because deep down they know their missing out..... pembury53
  • Score: -13

2:41pm Sat 16 Aug 14

pierre-pierre says...

think I can comment about you lot

My daughter follows you scum bags around Hylands park, as a charity worker clearing up your mess and destruction

dont need to read about it or take drugs to see what you idiots do.

and if you are taking any and driving, you with luck will end up in jail and loose your driving licence.
think I can comment about you lot My daughter follows you scum bags around Hylands park, as a charity worker clearing up your mess and destruction dont need to read about it or take drugs to see what you idiots do. and if you are taking any and driving, you with luck will end up in jail and loose your driving licence. pierre-pierre
  • Score: 10

7:54pm Sat 16 Aug 14

danger2013 says...

Alcohol kills more people than any other drug in the world. Why are people still going on about leah Betts who died from ecstasy years ago? People die every day from alcohol and no-one mentions it? very strange.
Alcohol kills more people than any other drug in the world. Why are people still going on about leah Betts who died from ecstasy years ago? People die every day from alcohol and no-one mentions it? very strange. danger2013
  • Score: -3

8:00pm Sat 16 Aug 14

wormshero says...

Not going to agree with the idea of driving after a smoke in the post above; the few experiment results I've seen showed it wasn't as bad as drink driving but I wouldn't call any of them conclusive. Should be (and is) illegal; driving should be a totally sober task.

I don't get the majority of these crazy replies though - it's a pop music festival, the majority of what's been found on people will be a bit of weed and the worst will likely be pills. People who take these aren't the kind of people who steal and commit crime to pay for an addiction, they're the kind of people who ask a friend of a friend to get them a small quantity of something with the intention of enhancing their weekend. Whether or not that's a good idea, these people aren't serious criminals and most of these reactions are crazy and show little understanding about festival culture or drugs.
Personally I'm not a big believer in the festival/drug mix (partly as I'm usually working at them, secondly because for a lot of people it's the first time they've tried things and over stimulated senses aren't the best idea) but I agree with the comments about policing - fair enough, stopping dealers going in is sensible but I'd rather our police concentrate on serious crime instead of a few teenagers taking a small amount of a relatively harmless, non-adictive, substance in. In my experience from festivals (8-16 a year) alcohol is more of an issue - I've come across some slightly annoying people on mdma (mostly just overly talkative while I have things to do) but no where near as many as the number of teenagers struggling with booze, holding themselves up on you because they can't stand, throwing up all over the place.
Not going to agree with the idea of driving after a smoke in the post above; the few experiment results I've seen showed it wasn't as bad as drink driving but I wouldn't call any of them conclusive. Should be (and is) illegal; driving should be a totally sober task. I don't get the majority of these crazy replies though - it's a pop music festival, the majority of what's been found on people will be a bit of weed and the worst will likely be pills. People who take these aren't the kind of people who steal and commit crime to pay for an addiction, they're the kind of people who ask a friend of a friend to get them a small quantity of something with the intention of enhancing their weekend. Whether or not that's a good idea, these people aren't serious criminals and most of these reactions are crazy and show little understanding about festival culture or drugs. Personally I'm not a big believer in the festival/drug mix (partly as I'm usually working at them, secondly because for a lot of people it's the first time they've tried things and over stimulated senses aren't the best idea) but I agree with the comments about policing - fair enough, stopping dealers going in is sensible but I'd rather our police concentrate on serious crime instead of a few teenagers taking a small amount of a relatively harmless, non-adictive, substance in. In my experience from festivals (8-16 a year) alcohol is more of an issue - I've come across some slightly annoying people on mdma (mostly just overly talkative while I have things to do) but no where near as many as the number of teenagers struggling with booze, holding themselves up on you because they can't stand, throwing up all over the place. wormshero
  • Score: 7

8:01pm Sat 16 Aug 14

all.talk.no.action says...

Robin Reliant wrote:
all.talk.no.action wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
Pisss Off Your Not Welcome wrote:
andyman1971 wrote:
All these illegal drugs are dangerous. They really are. Many youngster become ill or even die from these horrible drugs you speak about. Well done Essex police. I hope it's a safe event with no injuries or death due to drugs.. I really do.
Another Idiot that just believes in the media. Drugs are not bad when taking in moderation. Alcohol is being served there, believe it or not, that is a drug! Let's not go into the debate though of drink vs drugs. I agree with the above comments. No harm is being done with young festival goers, most of whom are law abiding citizens that hold down jobs, taking a couple pills, sniffing the odd line, or smoking a joint. It's just part of our culture. It is actually part of the worlds culture come to that. The war on drugs will never be won, and I think the police know that too.
For a start it's "you're" not "your"... and secondly smoking joints and sniffing the odd line are NOT part of our culture. Only the sort of culture idiots and selfish b****ds indulge in.

Nor is the addiction, early deaths, prostitution, aggravated burglary, violence, broken marriages, broken lives , shattered families and sheer devastation that goes with it.

Society is littered with drop outs and people whose minds and bodies are broken and shattered through addiction as anyone who works with them will tell you. And their loved ones are the ones who pay the price.

Grow up!
What a sheltered life you must of led.
There are billions of people who take drugs, hold down a job, and dont bother any one. All the best artists especially music artists in the world take some kind of drug.
Get over it.
Yeah like Errrr Peaches Geldof(Mum of the year),along with her Mum Paula, and Errr Rick James, and Mmmm Ike Turner, John Entwhistle,Ronnie Scott, Witney Houston, and the hundreds that battle addiction everyday, those that are high and are involved in Traffic accidents and kill innocents, theres possibly a endless list all connected, the gangs that cultivate just so your kids can have a puff and a giggle, the crime thats associated with it yeah thats right Get Over it.
You miss the point, but I guess you have no artistic streak and listen to the cheeky girls in your smoke and alcohol free environment.
[quote][p][bold]Robin Reliant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]all.talk.no.action[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pisss Off Your Not Welcome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyman1971[/bold] wrote: All these illegal drugs are dangerous. They really are. Many youngster become ill or even die from these horrible drugs you speak about. Well done Essex police. I hope it's a safe event with no injuries or death due to drugs.. I really do.[/p][/quote]Another Idiot that just believes in the media. Drugs are not bad when taking in moderation. Alcohol is being served there, believe it or not, that is a drug! Let's not go into the debate though of drink vs drugs. I agree with the above comments. No harm is being done with young festival goers, most of whom are law abiding citizens that hold down jobs, taking a couple pills, sniffing the odd line, or smoking a joint. It's just part of our culture. It is actually part of the worlds culture come to that. The war on drugs will never be won, and I think the police know that too.[/p][/quote]For a start it's "you're" not "your"... and secondly smoking joints and sniffing the odd line are NOT part of our culture. Only the sort of culture idiots and selfish b****ds indulge in. Nor is the addiction, early deaths, prostitution, aggravated burglary, violence, broken marriages, broken lives , shattered families and sheer devastation that goes with it. Society is littered with drop outs and people whose minds and bodies are broken and shattered through addiction as anyone who works with them will tell you. And their loved ones are the ones who pay the price. Grow up![/p][/quote]What a sheltered life you must of led. There are billions of people who take drugs, hold down a job, and dont bother any one. All the best artists especially music artists in the world take some kind of drug. Get over it.[/p][/quote]Yeah like Errrr Peaches Geldof(Mum of the year),along with her Mum Paula, and Errr Rick James, and Mmmm Ike Turner, John Entwhistle,Ronnie Scott, Witney Houston, and the hundreds that battle addiction everyday, those that are high and are involved in Traffic accidents and kill innocents, theres possibly a endless list all connected, the gangs that cultivate just so your kids can have a puff and a giggle, the crime thats associated with it yeah thats right Get Over it.[/p][/quote]You miss the point, but I guess you have no artistic streak and listen to the cheeky girls in your smoke and alcohol free environment. all.talk.no.action
  • Score: -6

9:44am Sun 17 Aug 14

sesibollox says...

Pisss Off Your Not Welcome wrote:
sesibollox wrote:
TorreyCanyon wrote:
Those of you with one of 600 deadly genes known as AKT 1 variants which are unknown and untested for, run the risk and gamble of instant psychosis like one of my children and possibly similar to the Leah Betts case.
Any form of illicit substance activates the gene, even of first time use, you are then subjected to years of medication, trauma and breakdown. This is not including the new natural high drugs available that are unknown and untested. Saying my mate takes them or i have done it before with no harm, is like putting a gun to your head with Russian Roulette.
You are all absolute big headed idiots, thinking that taking drugs makes you big or outs you in another world. "Oh hey man you are looking so cool and hip". Especially when you will eventually end up on a slab in the morgue. Why not think about the families and relatives that you are ruining the hurt and pain you are causing your mums dads brothers and sisters. Its not just your life that gets messed up. Think about all the flash cars, boats, holidays, Rolex watches, nice clothes, that you are funding to the gangland crime bosses in the process. What might be a £5 spliff to you while your trying to look oh so cool, is the end process of a very long chain of wealth production.
So true
So wrong. drug dealing gets you rich. End of.
Cant spell your user name can you ? too much MDMA ? talcum p LoL
[quote][p][bold]Pisss Off Your Not Welcome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TorreyCanyon[/bold] wrote: Those of you with one of 600 deadly genes known as AKT 1 variants which are unknown and untested for, run the risk and gamble of instant psychosis like one of my children and possibly similar to the Leah Betts case. Any form of illicit substance activates the gene, even of first time use, you are then subjected to years of medication, trauma and breakdown. This is not including the new natural high drugs available that are unknown and untested. Saying my mate takes them or i have done it before with no harm, is like putting a gun to your head with Russian Roulette. You are all absolute big headed idiots, thinking that taking drugs makes you big or outs you in another world. "Oh hey man you are looking so cool and hip". Especially when you will eventually end up on a slab in the morgue. Why not think about the families and relatives that you are ruining the hurt and pain you are causing your mums dads brothers and sisters. Its not just your life that gets messed up. Think about all the flash cars, boats, holidays, Rolex watches, nice clothes, that you are funding to the gangland crime bosses in the process. What might be a £5 spliff to you while your trying to look oh so cool, is the end process of a very long chain of wealth production.[/p][/quote]So true[/p][/quote]So wrong. drug dealing gets you rich. End of.[/p][/quote]Cant spell your user name can you ? too much MDMA ? talcum p LoL sesibollox
  • Score: 4

9:45am Sun 17 Aug 14

sesibollox says...

sesibollox wrote:
FreddyF wrote:
sesibollox wrote:
supermadmax wrote:
Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/***



*
ault etc...
These drugs are the seeds, that lead to people to get involved with crime to pay for this evil addiction.
What utter prohbitionist nonsense. MDMA is not that addictive and those that use it are not "addicts". Do you read the Daily Mail or what?
I read WHAT, are you a Sun reader by any chance ? as your idiotic defence of the druggie scum bag culture stands out, like a bleeding an@l wart.
.
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FreddyF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: Middle class kids taking drugs at a festival are not a menace to society. I would prefer a hard line was taken against burglary/mugging/*** * ault etc...[/p][/quote]These drugs are the seeds, that lead to people to get involved with crime to pay for this evil addiction.[/p][/quote]What utter prohbitionist nonsense. MDMA is not that addictive and those that use it are not "addicts". Do you read the Daily Mail or what?[/p][/quote]I read WHAT, are you a Sun reader by any chance ? as your idiotic defence of the druggie scum bag culture stands out, like a bleeding an@l wart.[/p][/quote]. sesibollox
  • Score: 2

11:11am Sun 17 Aug 14

Julie Ann Campbell-Vencarto says...

Some absolutely awful comments above, with no foresight for others who are suffering like me. I lost my sister in law 10 years ago she was 33 years old to this scourge. The stupid and silly people she was hanging around with in Chelsea were unimaginable, a beautiful born and bred Colchester Girl now brought back to the cemetery laid to rest.
Anyone who wants to have a laugh or a serious moment of reflection, ought to go and see her grave ! My son 18 years old last year, three weeks after his birthday, was knob bled as a joke at a party or get together, it appears that he has this deadly gene in his system, any exposure to illicit substances, renders instant medium term temporary brain damage. The cost to the NHS is unfathomable, He came home one day and collapsed on the floor where his system completely failed. The scenes that my husband and I witnessed over the last 18 months were out of a movie script. 15 GCSE's down the toilet, all down to a handful of greedy, jealous, selfish, stupid individuals, who also call themselves associates of the Roman Catholic Church in Colchester. We have finally received some signs of improvement but its been a long haul. Our Police have been totally useless and that is "a very sad remark" to make, this was also the case in London where the other parties involved, should have received jail terms for their involvement in the death of Sophia my sister in law. The law and the system in place is farcical, some of these drugs especially the artificially created legal highs are untested, there have been no trials on this stuff. As for cannaboid and THC levels, these plants are now being manipulated with hydroponic cultivation and all sorts of potions are being used in the water pumping cycle, which changes the make up of the plant, this is changing the end product into a dangerous unquantifiable state. As for the drug barons and those profiting from the illegal trade in drugs, it has all been said before and nothing appears to be achieved here we seem powerless, apart from this catch a few and then up pops another 100 dealers in the situation. Laugh as much as you want, go on supporting this devious practise, that is killing hundreds of thousands of people. Living like this is not the right way, it is not achieving anything productive to our lives. I cannot understand why we are pretending to be something else, by taking substances like this. Once these drugs are worn off, we return to who we originally are. Maybe it is some type of karma or destiny I do not know. All I do know is that some people out there are making a lot of money out of this, at the expense of others. People are now using drugs as a weapon against others, including those closest to them or in their folds. That one tablet or single shot of stuff can be a life changing gamble, that may not have been a choice you have made.
My message to the dealers and those who profit form this, enjoy your lifestyle, your fancy watches, cars and all the other trappings. I hope that one day some force comes along and exposes you to the justice that should be dealt out, or at least you experience some of the pain we have had. PS: I have rubbish broadband where we live at 1 MB the typescript judders as I am writing:

I also offer this quote, in respectful memoriam to Leah Betts RIP+
Some absolutely awful comments above, with no foresight for others who are suffering like me. I lost my sister in law 10 years ago she was 33 years old to this scourge. The stupid and silly people she was hanging around with in Chelsea were unimaginable, a beautiful born and bred Colchester Girl now brought back to the cemetery laid to rest. Anyone who wants to have a laugh or a serious moment of reflection, ought to go and see her grave ! My son 18 years old last year, three weeks after his birthday, was knob bled as a joke at a party or get together, it appears that he has this deadly gene in his system, any exposure to illicit substances, renders instant medium term temporary brain damage. The cost to the NHS is unfathomable, He came home one day and collapsed on the floor where his system completely failed. The scenes that my husband and I witnessed over the last 18 months were out of a movie script. 15 GCSE's down the toilet, all down to a handful of greedy, jealous, selfish, stupid individuals, who also call themselves associates of the Roman Catholic Church in Colchester. We have finally received some signs of improvement but its been a long haul. Our Police have been totally useless and that is "a very sad remark" to make, this was also the case in London where the other parties involved, should have received jail terms for their involvement in the death of Sophia my sister in law. The law and the system in place is farcical, some of these drugs especially the artificially created legal highs are untested, there have been no trials on this stuff. As for cannaboid and THC levels, these plants are now being manipulated with hydroponic cultivation and all sorts of potions are being used in the water pumping cycle, which changes the make up of the plant, this is changing the end product into a dangerous unquantifiable state. As for the drug barons and those profiting from the illegal trade in drugs, it has all been said before and nothing appears to be achieved here we seem powerless, apart from this catch a few and then up pops another 100 dealers in the situation. Laugh as much as you want, go on supporting this devious practise, that is killing hundreds of thousands of people. Living like this is not the right way, it is not achieving anything productive to our lives. I cannot understand why we are pretending to be something else, by taking substances like this. Once these drugs are worn off, we return to who we originally are. Maybe it is some type of karma or destiny I do not know. All I do know is that some people out there are making a lot of money out of this, at the expense of others. People are now using drugs as a weapon against others, including those closest to them or in their folds. That one tablet or single shot of stuff can be a life changing gamble, that may not have been a choice you have made. My message to the dealers and those who profit form this, enjoy your lifestyle, your fancy watches, cars and all the other trappings. I hope that one day some force comes along and exposes you to the justice that should be dealt out, or at least you experience some of the pain we have had. PS: I have rubbish broadband where we live at 1 MB the typescript judders as I am writing: I also offer this quote, in respectful memoriam to Leah Betts RIP+ Julie Ann Campbell-Vencarto
  • Score: 14

12:34pm Sun 17 Aug 14

sesibollox says...

You wanna take drugs fine, but dont start beating the no one cares drum, when you O.D.
You wanna take drugs fine, but dont start beating the no one cares drum, when you O.D. sesibollox
  • Score: 10

4:22pm Sun 17 Aug 14

danger2013 says...

R.I.P to all the alcohol victims out there. They never get mentioned normally cause alcohol is legal. A few people die from drugs and they make a big song and dance about it cause its illegal thats the only difference.
R.I.P to all the alcohol victims out there. They never get mentioned normally cause alcohol is legal. A few people die from drugs and they make a big song and dance about it cause its illegal thats the only difference. danger2013
  • Score: -4

10:17am Mon 18 Aug 14

mike.Ockhurtz says...

pierre-pierre wrote:
what did Robbie Williams die of? Drugs of course - never did him any harm, just killed him
Robbie Williams is still alive, think you mean Robin Williams. The drug which you are talking about is a legal prescribed drug. Lots of prescription drugs have side effects,
[quote][p][bold]pierre-pierre[/bold] wrote: what did Robbie Williams die of? Drugs of course - never did him any harm, just killed him[/p][/quote]Robbie Williams is still alive, think you mean Robin Williams. The drug which you are talking about is a legal prescribed drug. Lots of prescription drugs have side effects, mike.Ockhurtz
  • Score: 2

10:32am Mon 18 Aug 14

mike.Ockhurtz says...

mike.Ockhurtz wrote:
pierre-pierre wrote:
what did Robbie Williams die of? Drugs of course - never did him any harm, just killed him
Robbie Williams is still alive, think you mean Robin Williams. The drug which you are talking about is a legal prescribed drug. Lots of prescription drugs have side effects,
Drugs not drug.
[quote][p][bold]mike.Ockhurtz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pierre-pierre[/bold] wrote: what did Robbie Williams die of? Drugs of course - never did him any harm, just killed him[/p][/quote]Robbie Williams is still alive, think you mean Robin Williams. The drug which you are talking about is a legal prescribed drug. Lots of prescription drugs have side effects,[/p][/quote]Drugs not drug. mike.Ockhurtz
  • Score: 1

11:33am Mon 18 Aug 14

wormshero says...

mike.Ockhurtz wrote:
pierre-pierre wrote:
what did Robbie Williams die of? Drugs of course - never did him any harm, just killed him
Robbie Williams is still alive, think you mean Robin Williams. The drug which you are talking about is a legal prescribed drug. Lots of prescription drugs have side effects,
To be fair he was killed by crippling depression - if it was drugs which killed him (I haven't read the reports on how, it's none of my business and shouldn't have been reported) then that was the tool used, not the thing which killed him. In the same way that if someone shoots themself then it's recorded as suicide not "guns"
[quote][p][bold]mike.Ockhurtz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pierre-pierre[/bold] wrote: what did Robbie Williams die of? Drugs of course - never did him any harm, just killed him[/p][/quote]Robbie Williams is still alive, think you mean Robin Williams. The drug which you are talking about is a legal prescribed drug. Lots of prescription drugs have side effects,[/p][/quote]To be fair he was killed by crippling depression - if it was drugs which killed him (I haven't read the reports on how, it's none of my business and shouldn't have been reported) then that was the tool used, not the thing which killed him. In the same way that if someone shoots themself then it's recorded as suicide not "guns" wormshero
  • Score: -1

3:44pm Mon 18 Aug 14

stevedawson says...

Open the cage.
Open the cage. stevedawson
  • Score: 1

6:19pm Mon 18 Aug 14

sesibollox says...

The party's over, just over 16 weeks till Christmas, when another batch of drug taking idiots will hit these pages, those caught must be gutted....
The party's over, just over 16 weeks till Christmas, when another batch of drug taking idiots will hit these pages, those caught must be gutted.... sesibollox
  • Score: 2

2:24pm Tue 19 Aug 14

DAGASMAN says...

TorreyCanyon wrote:
Those of you with one of 600 deadly genes known as AKT 1 variants which are unknown and untested for, run the risk and gamble of instant psychosis like one of my children and possibly similar to the Leah Betts case.
Any form of illicit substance activates the gene, even of first time use, you are then subjected to years of medication, trauma and breakdown. This is not including the new natural high drugs available that are unknown and untested. Saying my mate takes them or i have done it before with no harm, is like putting a gun to your head with Russian Roulette.
You are all absolute big headed idiots, thinking that taking drugs makes you big or outs you in another world. "Oh hey man you are looking so cool and hip". Especially when you will eventually end up on a slab in the morgue. Why not think about the families and relatives that you are ruining the hurt and pain you are causing your mums dads brothers and sisters. Its not just your life that gets messed up. Think about all the flash cars, boats, holidays, Rolex watches, nice clothes, that you are funding to the gangland crime bosses in the process. What might be a £5 spliff to you while your trying to look oh so cool, is the end process of a very long chain of wealth production.
This is naive tosh, you think the only reason people use drugs is to look cool and "hip" - the fact you even used the term 'hip' or think that conversations like that even arise shows how out-of-touch you are, do you also imagine these users in flares and beatles haircuts? Maybe they want a safer alternative to alcohol, maybe they want to relax after a hard week slaving away for minimum wage, you could get hit by a bus tommorow, and while people are dying from all kinds of pollutants and ingesting all kinds of harmful chemicals in foods & products and you're trying to lecture people who want to smoke a joint and not bother anybody
[quote][p][bold]TorreyCanyon[/bold] wrote: Those of you with one of 600 deadly genes known as AKT 1 variants which are unknown and untested for, run the risk and gamble of instant psychosis like one of my children and possibly similar to the Leah Betts case. Any form of illicit substance activates the gene, even of first time use, you are then subjected to years of medication, trauma and breakdown. This is not including the new natural high drugs available that are unknown and untested. Saying my mate takes them or i have done it before with no harm, is like putting a gun to your head with Russian Roulette. You are all absolute big headed idiots, thinking that taking drugs makes you big or outs you in another world. "Oh hey man you are looking so cool and hip". Especially when you will eventually end up on a slab in the morgue. Why not think about the families and relatives that you are ruining the hurt and pain you are causing your mums dads brothers and sisters. Its not just your life that gets messed up. Think about all the flash cars, boats, holidays, Rolex watches, nice clothes, that you are funding to the gangland crime bosses in the process. What might be a £5 spliff to you while your trying to look oh so cool, is the end process of a very long chain of wealth production.[/p][/quote]This is naive tosh, you think the only reason people use drugs is to look cool and "hip" - the fact you even used the term 'hip' or think that conversations like that even arise shows how out-of-touch you are, do you also imagine these users in flares and beatles haircuts? Maybe they want a safer alternative to alcohol, maybe they want to relax after a hard week slaving away for minimum wage, you could get hit by a bus tommorow, and while people are dying from all kinds of pollutants and ingesting all kinds of harmful chemicals in foods & products and you're trying to lecture people who want to smoke a joint and not bother anybody DAGASMAN
  • Score: -1

2:34pm Tue 19 Aug 14

DAGASMAN says...

Julie Ann Campbell-Vencarto wrote:
Some absolutely awful comments above, with no foresight for others who are suffering like me. I lost my sister in law 10 years ago she was 33 years old to this scourge. The stupid and silly people she was hanging around with in Chelsea were unimaginable, a beautiful born and bred Colchester Girl now brought back to the cemetery laid to rest.
Anyone who wants to have a laugh or a serious moment of reflection, ought to go and see her grave ! My son 18 years old last year, three weeks after his birthday, was knob bled as a joke at a party or get together, it appears that he has this deadly gene in his system, any exposure to illicit substances, renders instant medium term temporary brain damage. The cost to the NHS is unfathomable, He came home one day and collapsed on the floor where his system completely failed. The scenes that my husband and I witnessed over the last 18 months were out of a movie script. 15 GCSE's down the toilet, all down to a handful of greedy, jealous, selfish, stupid individuals, who also call themselves associates of the Roman Catholic Church in Colchester. We have finally received some signs of improvement but its been a long haul. Our Police have been totally useless and that is "a very sad remark" to make, this was also the case in London where the other parties involved, should have received jail terms for their involvement in the death of Sophia my sister in law. The law and the system in place is farcical, some of these drugs especially the artificially created legal highs are untested, there have been no trials on this stuff. As for cannaboid and THC levels, these plants are now being manipulated with hydroponic cultivation and all sorts of potions are being used in the water pumping cycle, which changes the make up of the plant, this is changing the end product into a dangerous unquantifiable state. As for the drug barons and those profiting from the illegal trade in drugs, it has all been said before and nothing appears to be achieved here we seem powerless, apart from this catch a few and then up pops another 100 dealers in the situation. Laugh as much as you want, go on supporting this devious practise, that is killing hundreds of thousands of people. Living like this is not the right way, it is not achieving anything productive to our lives. I cannot understand why we are pretending to be something else, by taking substances like this. Once these drugs are worn off, we return to who we originally are. Maybe it is some type of karma or destiny I do not know. All I do know is that some people out there are making a lot of money out of this, at the expense of others. People are now using drugs as a weapon against others, including those closest to them or in their folds. That one tablet or single shot of stuff can be a life changing gamble, that may not have been a choice you have made.
My message to the dealers and those who profit form this, enjoy your lifestyle, your fancy watches, cars and all the other trappings. I hope that one day some force comes along and exposes you to the justice that should be dealt out, or at least you experience some of the pain we have had. PS: I have rubbish broadband where we live at 1 MB the typescript judders as I am writing:

I also offer this quote, in respectful memoriam to Leah Betts RIP+
Your comment is complete drivel, what about countries where drugs are legal? They arent filled with insane & dying people, a load of american states legalised cannabis, are all their citizens falling down dead or being locked up in asylums? Erm that would be a no. The only thing thats being done to marijuana plants is methods to maximise THC, nothing man-made or harmful, you have experienced a personal tragedy, but thats asfar as your knowlege of drugs goes, the rest of what you wrote is like something out of an episode of grange hill, "drugs are the devil", "all drugs kill", its the fact that kids have worked out themselves that this is NOT true is the reason these messages are never taken seriously. And by the way, leah betts death was the result of flooding her system with water, not ecstasy.
[quote][p][bold]Julie Ann Campbell-Vencarto[/bold] wrote: Some absolutely awful comments above, with no foresight for others who are suffering like me. I lost my sister in law 10 years ago she was 33 years old to this scourge. The stupid and silly people she was hanging around with in Chelsea were unimaginable, a beautiful born and bred Colchester Girl now brought back to the cemetery laid to rest. Anyone who wants to have a laugh or a serious moment of reflection, ought to go and see her grave ! My son 18 years old last year, three weeks after his birthday, was knob bled as a joke at a party or get together, it appears that he has this deadly gene in his system, any exposure to illicit substances, renders instant medium term temporary brain damage. The cost to the NHS is unfathomable, He came home one day and collapsed on the floor where his system completely failed. The scenes that my husband and I witnessed over the last 18 months were out of a movie script. 15 GCSE's down the toilet, all down to a handful of greedy, jealous, selfish, stupid individuals, who also call themselves associates of the Roman Catholic Church in Colchester. We have finally received some signs of improvement but its been a long haul. Our Police have been totally useless and that is "a very sad remark" to make, this was also the case in London where the other parties involved, should have received jail terms for their involvement in the death of Sophia my sister in law. The law and the system in place is farcical, some of these drugs especially the artificially created legal highs are untested, there have been no trials on this stuff. As for cannaboid and THC levels, these plants are now being manipulated with hydroponic cultivation and all sorts of potions are being used in the water pumping cycle, which changes the make up of the plant, this is changing the end product into a dangerous unquantifiable state. As for the drug barons and those profiting from the illegal trade in drugs, it has all been said before and nothing appears to be achieved here we seem powerless, apart from this catch a few and then up pops another 100 dealers in the situation. Laugh as much as you want, go on supporting this devious practise, that is killing hundreds of thousands of people. Living like this is not the right way, it is not achieving anything productive to our lives. I cannot understand why we are pretending to be something else, by taking substances like this. Once these drugs are worn off, we return to who we originally are. Maybe it is some type of karma or destiny I do not know. All I do know is that some people out there are making a lot of money out of this, at the expense of others. People are now using drugs as a weapon against others, including those closest to them or in their folds. That one tablet or single shot of stuff can be a life changing gamble, that may not have been a choice you have made. My message to the dealers and those who profit form this, enjoy your lifestyle, your fancy watches, cars and all the other trappings. I hope that one day some force comes along and exposes you to the justice that should be dealt out, or at least you experience some of the pain we have had. PS: I have rubbish broadband where we live at 1 MB the typescript judders as I am writing: I also offer this quote, in respectful memoriam to Leah Betts RIP+[/p][/quote]Your comment is complete drivel, what about countries where drugs are legal? They arent filled with insane & dying people, a load of american states legalised cannabis, are all their citizens falling down dead or being locked up in asylums? Erm that would be a no. The only thing thats being done to marijuana plants is methods to maximise THC, nothing man-made or harmful, you have experienced a personal tragedy, but thats asfar as your knowlege of drugs goes, the rest of what you wrote is like something out of an episode of grange hill, "drugs are the devil", "all drugs kill", its the fact that kids have worked out themselves that this is NOT true is the reason these messages are never taken seriously. And by the way, leah betts death was the result of flooding her system with water, not ecstasy. DAGASMAN
  • Score: -3

2:35pm Tue 19 Aug 14

DAGASMAN says...

Julie Ann Campbell-Vencarto wrote:
Some absolutely awful comments above, with no foresight for others who are suffering like me. I lost my sister in law 10 years ago she was 33 years old to this scourge. The stupid and silly people she was hanging around with in Chelsea were unimaginable, a beautiful born and bred Colchester Girl now brought back to the cemetery laid to rest.
Anyone who wants to have a laugh or a serious moment of reflection, ought to go and see her grave ! My son 18 years old last year, three weeks after his birthday, was knob bled as a joke at a party or get together, it appears that he has this deadly gene in his system, any exposure to illicit substances, renders instant medium term temporary brain damage. The cost to the NHS is unfathomable, He came home one day and collapsed on the floor where his system completely failed. The scenes that my husband and I witnessed over the last 18 months were out of a movie script. 15 GCSE's down the toilet, all down to a handful of greedy, jealous, selfish, stupid individuals, who also call themselves associates of the Roman Catholic Church in Colchester. We have finally received some signs of improvement but its been a long haul. Our Police have been totally useless and that is "a very sad remark" to make, this was also the case in London where the other parties involved, should have received jail terms for their involvement in the death of Sophia my sister in law. The law and the system in place is farcical, some of these drugs especially the artificially created legal highs are untested, there have been no trials on this stuff. As for cannaboid and THC levels, these plants are now being manipulated with hydroponic cultivation and all sorts of potions are being used in the water pumping cycle, which changes the make up of the plant, this is changing the end product into a dangerous unquantifiable state. As for the drug barons and those profiting from the illegal trade in drugs, it has all been said before and nothing appears to be achieved here we seem powerless, apart from this catch a few and then up pops another 100 dealers in the situation. Laugh as much as you want, go on supporting this devious practise, that is killing hundreds of thousands of people. Living like this is not the right way, it is not achieving anything productive to our lives. I cannot understand why we are pretending to be something else, by taking substances like this. Once these drugs are worn off, we return to who we originally are. Maybe it is some type of karma or destiny I do not know. All I do know is that some people out there are making a lot of money out of this, at the expense of others. People are now using drugs as a weapon against others, including those closest to them or in their folds. That one tablet or single shot of stuff can be a life changing gamble, that may not have been a choice you have made.
My message to the dealers and those who profit form this, enjoy your lifestyle, your fancy watches, cars and all the other trappings. I hope that one day some force comes along and exposes you to the justice that should be dealt out, or at least you experience some of the pain we have had. PS: I have rubbish broadband where we live at 1 MB the typescript judders as I am writing:

I also offer this quote, in respectful memoriam to Leah Betts RIP+
Your comment is complete drivel, what about countries where drugs are legal? They arent filled with insane & dying people, a load of american states legalised cannabis, are all their citizens falling down dead or being locked up in asylums? Erm that would be a no. The only thing thats being done to marijuana plants is methods to maximise THC, nothing man-made or harmful, you have experienced a personal tragedy, but thats asfar as your knowlege of drugs goes, the rest of what you wrote is like something out of an episode of grange hill, "drugs are the devil", "all drugs kill", its the fact that kids have worked out themselves that this is NOT true is the reason these messages are never taken seriously. And by the way, leah betts death was the result of flooding her system with water, not ecstasy.
[quote][p][bold]Julie Ann Campbell-Vencarto[/bold] wrote: Some absolutely awful comments above, with no foresight for others who are suffering like me. I lost my sister in law 10 years ago she was 33 years old to this scourge. The stupid and silly people she was hanging around with in Chelsea were unimaginable, a beautiful born and bred Colchester Girl now brought back to the cemetery laid to rest. Anyone who wants to have a laugh or a serious moment of reflection, ought to go and see her grave ! My son 18 years old last year, three weeks after his birthday, was knob bled as a joke at a party or get together, it appears that he has this deadly gene in his system, any exposure to illicit substances, renders instant medium term temporary brain damage. The cost to the NHS is unfathomable, He came home one day and collapsed on the floor where his system completely failed. The scenes that my husband and I witnessed over the last 18 months were out of a movie script. 15 GCSE's down the toilet, all down to a handful of greedy, jealous, selfish, stupid individuals, who also call themselves associates of the Roman Catholic Church in Colchester. We have finally received some signs of improvement but its been a long haul. Our Police have been totally useless and that is "a very sad remark" to make, this was also the case in London where the other parties involved, should have received jail terms for their involvement in the death of Sophia my sister in law. The law and the system in place is farcical, some of these drugs especially the artificially created legal highs are untested, there have been no trials on this stuff. As for cannaboid and THC levels, these plants are now being manipulated with hydroponic cultivation and all sorts of potions are being used in the water pumping cycle, which changes the make up of the plant, this is changing the end product into a dangerous unquantifiable state. As for the drug barons and those profiting from the illegal trade in drugs, it has all been said before and nothing appears to be achieved here we seem powerless, apart from this catch a few and then up pops another 100 dealers in the situation. Laugh as much as you want, go on supporting this devious practise, that is killing hundreds of thousands of people. Living like this is not the right way, it is not achieving anything productive to our lives. I cannot understand why we are pretending to be something else, by taking substances like this. Once these drugs are worn off, we return to who we originally are. Maybe it is some type of karma or destiny I do not know. All I do know is that some people out there are making a lot of money out of this, at the expense of others. People are now using drugs as a weapon against others, including those closest to them or in their folds. That one tablet or single shot of stuff can be a life changing gamble, that may not have been a choice you have made. My message to the dealers and those who profit form this, enjoy your lifestyle, your fancy watches, cars and all the other trappings. I hope that one day some force comes along and exposes you to the justice that should be dealt out, or at least you experience some of the pain we have had. PS: I have rubbish broadband where we live at 1 MB the typescript judders as I am writing: I also offer this quote, in respectful memoriam to Leah Betts RIP+[/p][/quote]Your comment is complete drivel, what about countries where drugs are legal? They arent filled with insane & dying people, a load of american states legalised cannabis, are all their citizens falling down dead or being locked up in asylums? Erm that would be a no. The only thing thats being done to marijuana plants is methods to maximise THC, nothing man-made or harmful, you have experienced a personal tragedy, but thats asfar as your knowlege of drugs goes, the rest of what you wrote is like something out of an episode of grange hill, "drugs are the devil", "all drugs kill", its the fact that kids have worked out themselves that this is NOT true is the reason these messages are never taken seriously. And by the way, leah betts death was the result of flooding her system with water, not ecstasy. DAGASMAN
  • Score: -3

1:07am Wed 20 Aug 14

Dr Martin says...

...... what made her flood her system with too much water?
...... what made her flood her system with too much water? Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

2:46pm Wed 20 Aug 14

DAGASMAN says...

.....bad advice from a friend
.....bad advice from a friend DAGASMAN
  • Score: -2

7:43am Thu 21 Aug 14

beaulocks says...

mike.Ockhurtz wrote:
pierre-pierre wrote:
what did Robbie Williams die of? Drugs of course - never did him any harm, just killed him
Robbie Williams is still alive, think you mean Robin Williams. The drug which you are talking about is a legal prescribed drug. Lots of prescription drugs have side effects,
This is great news, I've been sitting here crying my eyes out.
[quote][p][bold]mike.Ockhurtz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pierre-pierre[/bold] wrote: what did Robbie Williams die of? Drugs of course - never did him any harm, just killed him[/p][/quote]Robbie Williams is still alive, think you mean Robin Williams. The drug which you are talking about is a legal prescribed drug. Lots of prescription drugs have side effects,[/p][/quote]This is great news, I've been sitting here crying my eyes out. beaulocks
  • Score: 0

10:30pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Dr Martin says...

DAGASMAN wrote:
.....bad advice from a friend
to drink too much water? or take the drug in the first place?
[quote][p][bold]DAGASMAN[/bold] wrote: .....bad advice from a friend[/p][/quote]to drink too much water? or take the drug in the first place? Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

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