Camp Cuckoo campaigners move on (From Echo)
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Camp Cuckoo campaigners move on
11:59am Thursday 18th March 2010 in
PROTESTERS on the Camp Cuckoo protest site have moved on after Southend Council was granted an eviction order at the High Court.
In a hearing at the High Court in the Strand, London, the council were given an order of possession to evict the campaigners.
Nine protesters turned up at the court carrying a picture of their cat which was named in the court papers.
The council have also been awarded limited costs.
The group packed up and left this afternoon.
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Comments(93)
APR
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12:11pm Thu 18 Mar 10
mister strides
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12:18pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Max Impact
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12:24pm Thu 18 Mar 10
guygrim wrote:It IS the protesters who have broken the law NOT Southend council so your logic is flawed.
typical council get their way as always
By your logic I could come and pitch up a tent in your garden and have free rent for as long as I wanted to stay.
guygrim
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12:29pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Max Impact wrote:But the council don't "own" the land we the public do. HAve we been properly consulted about the scheme? I don't think so and even if we were the council wouldn't take a blind bit of notice.
guygrim wrote:It IS the protesters who have broken the law NOT Southend council so your logic is flawed.
typical council get their way as always
By your logic I could come and pitch up a tent in your garden and have free rent for as long as I wanted to stay.
25JAS
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12:31pm Thu 18 Mar 10
ShoeburyBlue
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12:44pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Nice to see someone at the Council has a sense of humour. Hopefully they will start clearing this afternoon.
DannyK86
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12:46pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Max Impact
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12:54pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Last time it was a "stray" what is it this time, if they took their own cat on to the site then in my view that amounts to animal cruelty.
'V'
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1:06pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Also it will be good to start a campaign to expose the corruption of Anna Waite, and highlight her multiple conflicts of interest to Southend's voters.
DannyK86
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1:09pm Thu 18 Mar 10
wosres
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1:17pm Thu 18 Mar 10
southendmechanic
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1:21pm Thu 18 Mar 10
How will the cat pay???
Peter Pantsless
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1:23pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Works for the crays hill / dale farm lot doesnt it!
southendmechanic
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1:26pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Peter Pantsless wrote:But the travellers own their land! this was illegal occupation of public land. much worse and much more anti social.
What the protesters need to do is suddenly all claim to be travellers and get a couple of the purple rinse brigade on the site and claim evicting them will kill them! Works for the crays hill / dale farm lot doesnt it!
Max Impact
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1:31pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Soozie wrote:You must one of the blinkerd people who do not see the large volume of cars that pass through that part of SOuthend every day, keeping at cat so close to a busy road living out of a tent is cruel in my book.
Why is it cruelty to bring a cat to their site? And what is your obsession with tents and sleeping in peoples gardens? You aren't one of those pervie peeping tom stalkers types are you Max?
As for the tent thing what are the huggers living out of, and do they own the land is it their names on the deeds of the land,
They are living in tents on land that they do not own its not got Mark whats his name or Peter dobedo's on the deeds for the land so they are not lawfully permitted to camp on it.
I hope they announce when the eviction starts want to go and watch take the camera and camcorder get some footage of the all blubbing as the trees come down.
southendmechanic
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1:37pm Thu 18 Mar 10
j-w
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1:38pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Max Impact
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1:50pm Thu 18 Mar 10
j-w wrote:What nesting birds I saw ZERO whan I walked past the other day.
A Cat on the site? What about the nesting birds we keep hearing about?
A group of us made a sign up we dareda mate to pin it the the tree right by the camp or he buys all the drinks at the weekend, its going to be an expensive weekend.
Whats wrong with the sign:
Trees... Without them there would be no Playboy Magazine!
Max Impact
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1:50pm Thu 18 Mar 10
j-w wrote:What nesting birds I saw ZERO whan I walked past the other day.
A Cat on the site? What about the nesting birds we keep hearing about?
A group of us made a sign up we dareda mate to pin it the the tree right by the camp or he buys all the drinks at the weekend, its going to be an expensive weekend.
Whats wrong with the sign:
Trees... Without them there would be no Playboy Magazine!
Max Impact
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1:50pm Thu 18 Mar 10
j-w wrote:What nesting birds I saw ZERO whan I walked past the other day.
A Cat on the site? What about the nesting birds we keep hearing about?
A group of us made a sign up we dareda mate to pin it the the tree right by the camp or he buys all the drinks at the weekend, its going to be an expensive weekend.
Whats wrong with the sign:
Trees... Without them there would be no Playboy Magazine!
anon anon
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2:00pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Soozie wrote:give him another couple of hours to try and put some more words in some sort of order !!!
Your post is convoluted and hard to decipher. Could you please try again? InEnglish.
southendmechanic
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2:13pm Thu 18 Mar 10
southendmechanic
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2:19pm Thu 18 Mar 10
have i told you how my day has been going???
fc1967
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2:20pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Time and again we have challenged the council over the need to reduce car use in order to comply with their own objectives of reducing congestion and CO2 emissions. The council have committed to the Nottingham Declaration to cut emissions by over 40% by 2020 but none of the supporters of car dependency can explain how the council can possibly achieve its aim.
Its a simple statement of fact - you cannot reduce emissions by encouraging greater car use. Those opposed to the road widening scheme want all available tranport funds to be put into real solutions that have been proven to work elsewhere. For example, we should eb encouraging more bus travel and cycling. The Netherlands has achieved a cycling rate of 23% of all journeys undertaken.
If the money spent on the Priory Crescent/Cuckoo Corner scheme was put into more cycle lanes, bus lanes, etc the council could actually achieve something worthwhile - reduced car use, reduced emissions, less congestion and the prospects of a more competitive country in which it is possible to move goods.
Those who support ever greater car use, know full well that this will lead to more congested roads and worsening employment position in the UK.
Time and again, those of us opposed to the council's policies have produced sophisticated, evidence based arguments to back up our cause. The Echo 5 Angry Old Men (AOM) only offer abuse and the most incredibly childish arguments. An example is the Playboy joke. It shows just how shallow they are.
remlap
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2:24pm Thu 18 Mar 10
One major reason why is because, there actually doing something and trying to make a change.. I garentee most people on here (including myself), If we have something to complain about or dont like something we all 'cant be bothered' to do anything about it.
And also, When your a child, your always told to stick up for your beliefs and to not be peer pressured etc... Well to me this sends out a signal of ' NO KIDS dont stick up for your beliefs and be passionate about anything thats not agreed with the council otherwise youl end up going to court about it'
And to all the people complaining about the protesters... when the roadworks start i garentee most of you will complain that there taking to long or causing disruption.
Welcome to England everybody. this country is a complete shamballs
'V'
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2:24pm Thu 18 Mar 10
That doesn't end the protest, there is no law against using the pavement. All they have to do is become pedestrians.
Soozie
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2:26pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Selfish to the max who cannot see the big picture.
Best of luck to all of you who camped out!!
southendmechanic
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2:27pm Thu 18 Mar 10
You dont all sing from the same song sheet do you?? this was only 2 years ago and guess what they tied ribbons round the trees.
Soozie
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2:37pm Thu 18 Mar 10
I can't wait to see how you post AFTER being at the pub. If it is anything like pre-pub post, we are all in for a treat!!
southendmechanic
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2:54pm Thu 18 Mar 10
eric naylor
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3:02pm Thu 18 Mar 10
keptquietillnow
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3:37pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Surly this must be satire?
Where are you going to get moving to, The Bell or Sutton Road RaB?
Actually when all is said and done I reckon you will still be stuck at Cuckoo Corner.
DannyK86
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3:46pm Thu 18 Mar 10
fc1967 wrote:Stop bleating on about the Nottingham declaration, you're like a stuck record! People need to access East Southend regardless, there aren't really any alternatives which is why they use their cars. If anything, congestion and queueing creates MORE pollution.
The outcome of the court hearing is a real shame but peaceful legal protests will go on to do what can be done to stop the council from their shortsighted policies. Time and again we have challenged the council over the need to reduce car use in order to comply with their own objectives of reducing congestion and CO2 emissions. The council have committed to the Nottingham Declaration to cut emissions by over 40% by 2020 but none of the supporters of car dependency can explain how the council can possibly achieve its aim. Its a simple statement of fact - you cannot reduce emissions by encouraging greater car use. Those opposed to the road widening scheme want all available tranport funds to be put into real solutions that have been proven to work elsewhere. For example, we should eb encouraging more bus travel and cycling. The Netherlands has achieved a cycling rate of 23% of all journeys undertaken. If the money spent on the Priory Crescent/Cuckoo Corner scheme was put into more cycle lanes, bus lanes, etc the council could actually achieve something worthwhile - reduced car use, reduced emissions, less congestion and the prospects of a more competitive country in which it is possible to move goods. Those who support ever greater car use, know full well that this will lead to more congested roads and worsening employment position in the UK. Time and again, those of us opposed to the council's policies have produced sophisticated, evidence based arguments to back up our cause. The Echo 5 Angry Old Men (AOM) only offer abuse and the most incredibly childish arguments. An example is the Playboy joke. It shows just how shallow they are.
And who are the 'Echo 5' that you are so keen on making up? Some people on this site are more keen on trading personal attacks it seems!
Nebs
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3:52pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Carrie.C
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4:10pm Thu 18 Mar 10
gingerfox
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4:12pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Motorists should get off their lazy behinds and walk, or cycle, or go on the train. The future isn't car shaped; get ready for it
DannyK86
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4:26pm Thu 18 Mar 10
gingerfox wrote:It's electric car shaped :P
Petrol is around £1.20 a litre and over the next few years will be up considerably more. This road extension is too late. This money should be invested in affordable public transport Motorists should get off their lazy behinds and walk, or cycle, or go on the train. The future isn't car shaped; get ready for it
liseinga
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5:19pm Thu 18 Mar 10
evilc
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5:24pm Thu 18 Mar 10
I travelled along the sea front today Excellent to see the new cycle path and at long last the sea front is being improved from a run down Victorian dump designed for drunken slobs into a place for this century.
Now ignore all the tree huggers and carry on doing an excellent job.
southendmechanic
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5:28pm Thu 18 Mar 10
evilc wrote:agreed 100%
Well Done Anne Waite you are doing an excellent job improving the infrastructure in the town which has been a long time coming. I travelled along the sea front today Excellent to see the new cycle path and at long last the sea front is being improved from a run down Victorian dump designed for drunken slobs into a place for this century. Now ignore all the tree huggers and carry on doing an excellent job.
southendmechanic
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5:31pm Thu 18 Mar 10
liseinga wrote:this is the problem these serial protestors only think about the way cars affect their life. Many cant even if they wanted to resort to any other method bring on the road changes.
If I had to cycle to work or go by public transport (Brentwood) it would take me far too long, so would have to give up work. On the other hand, allowing the traffic to move quicker (if it wokrs?) rather than sit in queues with the engine idling should cut down on emissions, so for once I am with the Council on this one.
'V'
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5:32pm Thu 18 Mar 10
DannyK86 wrote:Electric cars are next to useless. The pollution aspect with electric cars is horrendous. Where are all those millions of dead lithium-ion batteries going to go?
gingerfox wrote:It's electric car shaped :P
Petrol is around £1.20 a litre and over the next few years will be up considerably more. This road extension is too late. This money should be invested in affordable public transport Motorists should get off their lazy behinds and walk, or cycle, or go on the train. The future isn't car shaped; get ready for it
Electric cars are a knee-jerk reaction that has not been thought through. Production and disposal of the batteries is enormously polluting.
The cars themselves can only travel about 100 miles on a charge, and require eight hours to recharge. The electricity used to charge them comes from the national grid. So pollution from the exhaust pipe is simply being swapped for pollution at the power station.
Also what happens if you run out of charge during a journey? You can't take a can to an electric station and carry a gallon of electricity back to the car...
Oh and one last point, just how much faster is a traffic jam full of electric cars, than a traffic jam full of petrol/diesel cars?
Gingerfox is correct, the car as a viable transport option is in its death throes.
evilc
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5:35pm Thu 18 Mar 10
'V' wrote:V Spare us the c-r-a-p please.
DannyK86 wrote:Electric cars are next to useless. The pollution aspect with electric cars is horrendous. Where are all those millions of dead lithium-ion batteries going to go?
gingerfox wrote:It's electric car shaped :P
Petrol is around £1.20 a litre and over the next few years will be up considerably more. This road extension is too late. This money should be invested in affordable public transport Motorists should get off their lazy behinds and walk, or cycle, or go on the train. The future isn't car shaped; get ready for it
Electric cars are a knee-jerk reaction that has not been thought through. Production and disposal of the batteries is enormously polluting.
The cars themselves can only travel about 100 miles on a charge, and require eight hours to recharge. The electricity used to charge them comes from the national grid. So pollution from the exhaust pipe is simply being swapped for pollution at the power station.
Also what happens if you run out of charge during a journey? You can't take a can to an electric station and carry a gallon of electricity back to the car...
Oh and one last point, just how much faster is a traffic jam full of electric cars, than a traffic jam full of petrol/diesel cars?
Gingerfox is correct, the car as a viable transport option is in its death throes.
A change is coming to this country.
'V'
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5:37pm Thu 18 Mar 10
liseinga wrote:Precisely IF it works. There will still only be one lane into Prince Avenue. So it doesn't matter how many lanes Priory Crescent has, the bottleneck will still be there. Combined with pedestrian controlled traffic lights, there will be zero improvement in traffic flow.
If I had to cycle to work or go by public transport (Brentwood) it would take me far too long, so would have to give up work. On the other hand, allowing the traffic to move quicker (if it wokrs?) rather than sit in queues with the engine idling should cut down on emissions, so for once I am with the Council on this one.
Yesterday I took the car to work and decided to use Priory Crescent to see these 'horrific' delays southendmechanic keeps bleating about. I timed how long it took to get from Sutton Rd to Prince Avenue at 7.40am.
Six minutes.
That is hardly a massive delay. And definitely not worth destroying more of Southend's greenery for.
Carrie.C
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5:41pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Max Impact
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5:44pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Petrol cars bad
Leccy cars bad
How about we all get nuclear power cars no pollution out the back, no ion bats to worry about just steam from the rear end...
Question to all the anti cars lot.
Have you got cars?
The Star
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6:09pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Nebs wrote:No, in fact ANYONE who stands in the area, could be removed and charged with contempt of court and have to pay SBC for the privilage
If the people who are currently on the site decide to peacefully move off, and they are replaced by a different group of protesters, will the council have to do the same thing again?
southendmechanic
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6:58pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Carrie.C wrote:i see carrie you have moved out of the area now, shame but we dont want neighbors who bring the place down with shabby shacks and tents.
liseinga: Although I consider the character and heritage of our town as being more important than a few seconds or minutes off my car journey, I can appreciate your opinion IF it allows traffic to flow quicker. However, the Council doesn't want us to know the full facts which is why you will only get vague pretty pictures from them and will find it almost impossible to obtain an easy to understand copy of the technical plan and if and when you see for yourself that it doesn't work, I hope you will remember what it has cost us (£5 million plus of our money) and a whole avenue of beautiful mature trees to make way for a road widening scheme which is just the beginning of the airport expansion. I believe Manners Way will be next and it will be turned into a duel-carriageway but try and get a straight answer out of the Council on that one! I also used to have faith in my Council but unfortunately I have opened my eyes to what is going on all over Southend and I now believe that Cllr Waite and her cabinet (not the rest of the Council as they can't get a look in) only do what is in their own interests - NOT ours.
Just been for a walk with the dog and had a nice walk without protestors in hi viz waistecoats thinking they are saving the planet running around or trying to make chit chat with me when i never asked them to have a holiday on my door step. i hope the costs the leaders of the group have are worth it because with bling they thought it so clever to have a go at any residents who didnt want them there.
southendmechanic
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7:41pm Thu 18 Mar 10
hopefully with the new layout we can expect the time to half to 3 minutes.
ukman
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7:46pm Thu 18 Mar 10
G-VJET
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7:49pm Thu 18 Mar 10
southendmechanic
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7:52pm Thu 18 Mar 10
G-VJET wrote:nice to see the vulcan's civil id is on the forum
Two fingers from the council then , and we paid for it :(
jolllyboy
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7:53pm Thu 18 Mar 10
wosres
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8:03pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Agree with comments about the improvements the town is getting. Good that cycle route is being extended along the seafront. Good to see work starting on the Prittlebrook cycleway. Soon we will be well catered for for cyclists (I am one) in what is a very densely populated area. When the Prittlebrook cycleway is complete you will be able to cycle from Priory Park to Belfairs Woods and thus out of the area without having to cycle on roads (except to cross them at properly designed crossings).
Good show Anna. Keep up the good work.
'V'
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8:30pm Thu 18 Mar 10
southendmechanic wrote:You moron.
6 minutes to go that short distance which should take under 1 minute if we had F5 like which was identified in the original public inquiry then the time could have gone down to this.
hopefully with the new layout we can expect the time to half to 3 minutes.
Sixteen mature trees destroyed, and Southend's green spaces reduced AGAIN, so idiots who are too stupid to time their journeys to take account of a minor hold up save three minutes getting to the next hold up a quarter of a mile down the road.
I hope they haven't told the whole truth and widen the road into your front garden using compulsory purchase.
southendmechanic
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9:27pm Thu 18 Mar 10
time to give up old boy and move to the retirement village ;-) all i have to do now is wait 2 weeks for the airport announcment.
You can be as abusive as you like V with your opinion as has been proved the people of southend,the council,and a high court judge dont agree.
If the people of southend where behind this like you said where are they??? it was a small group who have been taught a lesson not to play around with progress
BASILBRUSH
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10:49pm Thu 18 Mar 10
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Carrie.c wrote, "It was an unwinnable battle because the protestors were given 3 days to prepare their defence and obviously didn't have the time or unlimited coffers for a fair fight!"
Whats fair about planting an illegal camp on Council land and threatening the town with Eco-warriors?
At least the council acted within the law.
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Good work SBC.
Yes 'V' there are other ligitimate ways to protest. Good luck with that, but thanks for costing us all money doing it the illegal way.
I must admit, I didn't see any sign of nesting as i drove past earlier either. You get plenty of time on that road to look too!
Max Impact
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10:55pm Thu 18 Mar 10
southendmechanic wrote:and probably nothing to do with the Vulcan.
G-VJET wrote: Two fingers from the council then , and we paid for it :(nice to see the vulcan's civil id is on the forum
How many people have signed up just to post stupid posts there have been a number of new names popping up on this story in the last day or two. How many of them have other id's on here?
BASILBRUSH
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12:28am Fri 19 Mar 10
Max Impact wrote:Why is that a stupid post? I think G-VJET was just comenting on us, as taxpayers having to pay for the eviction.
southendmechanic wrote:and probably nothing to do with the Vulcan. How many people have signed up just to post stupid posts there have been a number of new names popping up on this story in the last day or two. How many of them have other id's on here?G-VJET wrote: Two fingers from the council then , and we paid for it :(nice to see the vulcan's civil id is on the forum
I don't see any reason why he/she would not be part of the Vulcan.
Bosniavet
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7:17am Fri 19 Mar 10
You never know, if the protestors acted legitimately, I might even become a supporter!
Realworld
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7:34am Fri 19 Mar 10
I jut hope the council hurry up with the road improvements so I can shave 2 mins off my journey to work. Don't worry treehuggers - I'm only thinking of the saving in carbon emissions from my 3.0 V6 :-)
Soozie
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7:59am Fri 19 Mar 10
That comment just made my day!
vanilla ice
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10:02am Fri 19 Mar 10
Soozie wrote:I think they would pass on that option when they see that heap of rusting cars and junk on the front garden, I don’t think the council would have money in the budget for that job . He said he would cash it in down the scrap yard ASAP but doesn’t seem to have a working vehicle that’s got tax & insurance to get it there.
LOL @ V's comment "I hope they haven't told the whole truth and widen the road into your front garden using compulsory purchase".
That comment just made my day!
vanilla ice
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10:28am Fri 19 Mar 10
Realworld wrote:This might be the sad end result of the only sperm out of millions that made it though, but I just think the midwife had to choose what to throw away and the rest is history.
Bye bye treehuggers & good riddance! Perhaps now they will find something worthwhile in this troublesome world of ours to protest about? methinks not... Perhaps they could take up domino's or crochet..... maybe even find time to meet a partner so they can expand their lonely lives beyond worrying about a few trees.
I jut hope the council hurry up with the road improvements so I can shave 2 mins off my journey to work. Don't worry treehuggers - I'm only thinking of the saving in carbon emissions from my 3.0 V6 :-)
r6keith
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10:45am Fri 19 Mar 10
remlap wrote:Do you not think that the junction rework is "to make a change" I am happy that the members of the council who we elected do believe that what they do is for the common good. If you feel that they do not represent us then stand for council make your stand in the chambers.What with the airport and junction issues in the town it will be interesting to see how many candidates groups like SAEN put up. I believe they have this very blinkered idea of how much support they actually have in the town , its nothing like the numbers they imagine and not one would get elected if they stood !!!!!!!!!!! But feel free to prove me wrong.
I actually was backing them. One major reason why is because, there actually doing something and trying to make a change.. I garentee most people on here (including myself), If we have something to complain about or dont like something we all 'cant be bothered' to do anything about it. And also, When your a child, your always told to stick up for your beliefs and to not be peer pressured etc... Well to me this sends out a signal of ' NO KIDS dont stick up for your beliefs and be passionate about anything thats not agreed with the council otherwise youl end up going to court about it' And to all the people complaining about the protesters... when the roadworks start i garentee most of you will complain that there taking to long or causing disruption. Welcome to England everybody. this country is a complete shamballs
Camping by the side of the road costing us the tax payer money to have them removed is incorrect and undemocratic.
Realworld
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11:07am Fri 19 Mar 10
vanilla ice wrote:Ooooh er!! Let me guess? a treehugger.....?
Realworld wrote: Bye bye treehuggers & good riddance! Perhaps now they will find something worthwhile in this troublesome world of ours to protest about? methinks not... Perhaps they could take up domino's or crochet..... maybe even find time to meet a partner so they can expand their lonely lives beyond worrying about a few trees. I jut hope the council hurry up with the road improvements so I can shave 2 mins off my journey to work. Don't worry treehuggers - I'm only thinking of the saving in carbon emissions from my 3.0 V6 :-)This might be the sad end result of the only sperm out of millions that made it though, but I just think the midwife had to choose what to throw away and the rest is history.
Must be sad having no real life or interests... Don't forget to vote Lib Dem in May by the way - you can always attempt perfecting the "X" sign now as sounds like you'll need the practice. Hey! Idea! Join a club, get out more - eventually you'll meet people and improve on your sad and lonely existence.
Oh to live in a fantasy world where all you have to worry about is a few tree's! Fortunately I do my bit by having a nice open log fire ( and that's just in the en-suite) :-)
GavtheSpav
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12:51pm Fri 19 Mar 10
vanilla ice
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1:11pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Max Impact
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1:29pm Fri 19 Mar 10
BASILBRUSH wrote:So its ok if I sign up as Southend Lib Dem leader
Max Impact wrote:Why is that a stupid post? I think G-VJET was just comenting on us, as taxpayers having to pay for the eviction. I don't see any reason why he/she would not be part of the Vulcan.southendmechanic wrote:and probably nothing to do with the Vulcan. How many people have signed up just to post stupid posts there have been a number of new names popping up on this story in the last day or two. How many of them have other id's on here?G-VJET wrote: Two fingers from the council then , and we paid for it :(nice to see the vulcan's civil id is on the forum
or
The Leader of the Southend Labour Party...
As for Max Impact
My first name is: Maximus (Max for short) as for Impact I used to test things on jet sleds I was designated Impact Master as I would be the first to investigate the impact zone so Max Impact was born.
GavtheSpav
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1:33pm Fri 19 Mar 10
GavtheSpav
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1:43pm Fri 19 Mar 10
southendmechanic
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3:03pm Fri 19 Mar 10
GavtheSpav
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4:01pm Fri 19 Mar 10
southendmechanic
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4:45pm Fri 19 Mar 10
And yes you have met me when you where at camp bling when you all moved in there and thought it was clever when we asked you to move to say the law was on your side guess what it wasnt this time ;-)
jebe
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10:59pm Fri 19 Mar 10
on rules ok! Filthy Lucre won the day, the citizens born and bred in Southend On Sea have been conned! Again and again...The Outsiders who care NOTHING for this ruined TOWN are only out for themselves and they're Masters... Southendmechanic you ignoramus arrogant troll par excellence, CROOKED CORNER and the ruination of this historic area will be vilified by true Southenders for years to come..You are NEVER a born and bred Southend man....NOOOOOOOOOOOO
O WAY. Traitor.
southendmechanic
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7:21am Sat 20 Mar 10
jebe wrote:southend born and bred fraid to upset you.
I am disgusted with this decision....corrupti on rules ok! Filthy Lucre won the day, the citizens born and bred in Southend On Sea have been conned! Again and again...The Outsiders who care NOTHING for this ruined TOWN are only out for themselves and they're Masters... Southendmechanic you ignoramus arrogant troll par excellence, CROOKED CORNER and the ruination of this historic area will be vilified by true Southenders for years to come..You are NEVER a born and bred Southend man....NOOOOOOOOOOOO O WAY. Traitor.
Things cant always stay the same you need progression and growth and lots of people like southend and want to move here and/or work here.
We went through the same transformation in the 60's in the town centre when my greatgrandfather and my grandfather sold TALZA to the hammerson group so they had the basis for victoria circus.
southendmechanic
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7:58am Sat 20 Mar 10
'V'
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9:05am Sat 20 Mar 10
southendmechanic wrote:Moron.
TIMBER!!! well not timber to be exact it seems methodical cut down is being used. At least when these trees are gone we wont have the dangers of Mr Walker and their friends being about here.
southendmechanic
says...
9:29am Sat 20 Mar 10
And as you have said you dont normally come this way (we dont want you here anyway) it really wont affect you . thanks has been a pleasure but the situation is now sorted and i have the outcome i desired.
jebe
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2:18pm Sat 20 Mar 10
Max Impact
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3:17pm Sat 20 Mar 10
jebe wrote:I cried too...
Watching the destruction of a hundred year old tree a few hours ago was heartbreaking...As the crane swung in the air with the massive trunk that had been sawed in 3 parts, I cried....The so called security bully boys in black and the tree fellas actually cheered as this beautiful tree died....It was sickening to witness...but no doubt alls well in their obviously tiny brains, and world, as tons of concrete will replace the home of this once magnificant sight...Its a sad day for Southend as Concreted in corruption "CROOKED CORNER " wins the day..
With laughter at the blubbing tree huggers.
Chants of "tree Killers" and a sign
"prosecuted for peaceful protest"
No you were prosecuted for camping on land were were not permitted to be on.
Whatever happened to all these hundreds & hundreds of protesters that were suposed to be comming down, did they see the light after the trees were cut down that hed been bloking it?
jebe
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3:48pm Sat 20 Mar 10
Max Impact wrote:You and your lovers of concrete cronies with your lack of grey matter is the only thing that is laughable...I was not amongst those wonderful people who camped on land that belonged to the people of Southend, NOT SBC....I went to the Park today to voice my opinion of a Corrupt Dictatorship that is running and Ruining this Town...As a tax paying resident of my Home Town, I have every right to do that just that..."CROOKED CORNER" is and always will be reviled, as will the joke of a "better southend"..A better Southend will come when we have got rid of the likes of you with a hand permanently fixed in the back-handed position !!!!
jebe wrote:I cried too...
Watching the destruction of a hundred year old tree a few hours ago was heartbreaking...As the crane swung in the air with the massive trunk that had been sawed in 3 parts, I cried....The so called security bully boys in black and the tree fellas actually cheered as this beautiful tree died....It was sickening to witness...but no doubt alls well in their obviously tiny brains, and world, as tons of concrete will replace the home of this once magnificant sight...Its a sad day for Southend as Concreted in corruption "CROOKED CORNER " wins the day..
With laughter at the blubbing tree huggers.
Chants of "tree Killers" and a sign
"prosecuted for peaceful protest"
No you were prosecuted for camping on land were were not permitted to be on.
Whatever happened to all these hundreds & hundreds of protesters that were suposed to be comming down, did they see the light after the trees were cut down that hed been bloking it?
jebe
says...
5:39pm Sat 20 Mar 10
southendmechanic wrote:Oh right...so it IS true, you must be so ashamed to know that your ancestors sold out to people who cared nothing for the character and soul of Southend, and were by their actions instigators in the ruination of our Town during the concrete and corruption era of the sixties.. No doubt that if your ancestors could speak to you they would say the very same...Shame on you for not learning a dam thing...Traitor
jebe wrote:southend born and bred fraid to upset you.
I am disgusted with this decision....corrupti on rules ok! Filthy Lucre won the day, the citizens born and bred in Southend On Sea have been conned! Again and again...The Outsiders who care NOTHING for this ruined TOWN are only out for themselves and they're Masters... Southendmechanic you ignoramus arrogant troll par excellence, CROOKED CORNER and the ruination of this historic area will be vilified by true Southenders for years to come..You are NEVER a born and bred Southend man....NOOOOOOOOOOOO O WAY. Traitor.
Things cant always stay the same you need progression and growth and lots of people like southend and want to move here and/or work here.
We went through the same transformation in the 60's in the town centre when my greatgrandfather and my grandfather sold TALZA to the hammerson group so they had the basis for victoria circus.
southendmechanic
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6:58pm Sat 20 Mar 10
The Garon family made their money by owning property and selling at times to suit themselves.
As did the Jones family they didnt make their money by thinking of everyone else and not of the family hence making the moeny they did which enabled gifts to the people of the town,some of which was in return for the help the council had given them.
Talza arcade was not only a property it was the family home, with many good features but at the end of its time it was tiered and new shopping centres were being asked for by the general public. The selling of it and other surrounding property enable regeneration of the area which has created many thousands of people with jobs over many years.
There is always a bigger picture one my grandfather and my own father were more than happy to veiw and getting sentamental about material things only causes you to stand still.
The selling of the arcades gave them chances to explore other ventures which have also created jobs for people.
History is a good teacher but where would southend be now if it had been left as it was? DEAD people would not have paid the prices in the small arcade shops and have gone outside of the town to the newly build basildon. With victoria avenue being left as housing non of the offices would have moved to southend and unemployment would have been very high with people forced to move to find work.
so hey i thank my greatgrand father and others who had vision and could move on and embrace change.
jebe
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8:34pm Sat 20 Mar 10
southendmechanic wrote:...And then you came along.!!!...Jeez,wha
no they served southed just the same as all the other big names in the town.
The Garon family made their money by owning property and selling at times to suit themselves.
As did the Jones family they didnt make their money by thinking of everyone else and not of the family hence making the moeny they did which enabled gifts to the people of the town,some of which was in return for the help the council had given them.
Talza arcade was not only a property it was the family home, with many good features but at the end of its time it was tiered and new shopping centres were being asked for by the general public. The selling of it and other surrounding property enable regeneration of the area which has created many thousands of people with jobs over many years.
There is always a bigger picture one my grandfather and my own father were more than happy to veiw and getting sentamental about material things only causes you to stand still.
The selling of the arcades gave them chances to explore other ventures which have also created jobs for people.
History is a good teacher but where would southend be now if it had been left as it was? DEAD people would not have paid the prices in the small arcade shops and have gone outside of the town to the newly build basildon. With victoria avenue being left as housing non of the offices would have moved to southend and unemployment would have been very high with people forced to move to find work.
so hey i thank my greatgrand father and others who had vision and could move on and embrace change.
t a disappointment, bet they are turning in their graves... I too hope like others posted or not that your own eyesore of a Garden is concreted over, I'll make sure I'm there to laugh and cheer as your devoid of grey matter cronies did today when they killed the trees....What goes round comes around.
southendmechanic
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8:45pm Sat 20 Mar 10
I live here at this moment because i choose and want to not because i have to.
My own siblings,My children and I will never want and that is all i need to concentrate on at present with people like yourself who would with you attitudes strip familys of any wealth or position they have even R A Jones would have given up with trying to give the likes of you happiness.
jebe
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10:20pm Sat 20 Mar 10
Soozie
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5:26am Sun 21 Mar 10
southendmechanic wrote:The outcome I desired? You pathetic little weasel. Not only are you thick and moronic, but selfish and as stupid as they come.
your argument for keeping the trees V has always been very very weak. And as you have said you dont normally come this way (we dont want you here anyway) it really wont affect you . thanks has been a pleasure but the situation is now sorted and i have the outcome i desired.
So far we have heard about your pikey lifestyle and family, how hard done by you are, how much your dad paid for the house, how much work you have (which I doubt because you are on here 24/7) etc etc.
One thing that is totally obvious is the later in the day it gets, the drunker you get. One of these days you will get the sh!tkicking you deserve. Hopefully that will shut you up and put you out of your misery. 100% pure d!ckhead.
I pity your kids, and certainly hope they do not take after you, Or there will be another generation of benefit pikey scrounging thicko's.
southendmechanic
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5:45pm Sun 21 Mar 10
Soozie wrote:yes but remeber they (if i dont sepnd it) will inherit all the property left to me ;-) you are just a jealous cow who gets upset that they are still living hand to mouth.
southendmechanic wrote: your argument for keeping the trees V has always been very very weak. And as you have said you dont normally come this way (we dont want you here anyway) it really wont affect you . thanks has been a pleasure but the situation is now sorted and i have the outcome i desired.The outcome I desired? You pathetic little weasel. Not only are you thick and moronic, but selfish and as stupid as they come. So far we have heard about your pikey lifestyle and family, how hard done by you are, how much your dad paid for the house, how much work you have (which I doubt because you are on here 24/7) etc etc. One thing that is totally obvious is the later in the day it gets, the drunker you get. One of these days you will get the sh!tkicking you deserve. Hopefully that will shut you up and put you out of your misery. 100% pure d!ckhead. I pity your kids, and certainly hope they do not take after you, Or there will be another generation of benefit pikey scrounging thicko's.
Said before to the protestors i dont have a care or worry outside of the family these days and never have had to worry about money and never will.
southendmechanic
says...
5:45pm Sun 21 Mar 10
Soozie wrote:yes but remeber they (if i dont sepnd it) will inherit all the property left to me ;-) you are just a jealous cow who gets upset that they are still living hand to mouth.
southendmechanic wrote: your argument for keeping the trees V has always been very very weak. And as you have said you dont normally come this way (we dont want you here anyway) it really wont affect you . thanks has been a pleasure but the situation is now sorted and i have the outcome i desired.The outcome I desired? You pathetic little weasel. Not only are you thick and moronic, but selfish and as stupid as they come. So far we have heard about your pikey lifestyle and family, how hard done by you are, how much your dad paid for the house, how much work you have (which I doubt because you are on here 24/7) etc etc. One thing that is totally obvious is the later in the day it gets, the drunker you get. One of these days you will get the sh!tkicking you deserve. Hopefully that will shut you up and put you out of your misery. 100% pure d!ckhead. I pity your kids, and certainly hope they do not take after you, Or there will be another generation of benefit pikey scrounging thicko's.
Said before to the protestors i dont have a care or worry outside of the family these days and never have had to worry about money and never will.
Soozie
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6:05pm Sun 21 Mar 10
southendmechanic wrote:Jealous of oyu? LOL and I live hand to mouth?
Soozie wrote:yes but remeber they (if i dont sepnd it) will inherit all the property left to me ;-) you are just a jealous cow who gets upset that they are still living hand to mouth. Said before to the protestors i dont have a care or worry outside of the family these days and never have had to worry about money and never will.southendmechanic wrote: your argument for keeping the trees V has always been very very weak. And as you have said you dont normally come this way (we dont want you here anyway) it really wont affect you . thanks has been a pleasure but the situation is now sorted and i have the outcome i desired.The outcome I desired? You pathetic little weasel. Not only are you thick and moronic, but selfish and as stupid as they come. So far we have heard about your pikey lifestyle and family, how hard done by you are, how much your dad paid for the house, how much work you have (which I doubt because you are on here 24/7) etc etc. One thing that is totally obvious is the later in the day it gets, the drunker you get. One of these days you will get the sh!tkicking you deserve. Hopefully that will shut you up and put you out of your misery. 100% pure d!ckhead. I pity your kids, and certainly hope they do not take after you, Or there will be another generation of benefit pikey scrounging thicko's.
Sorry there bub, I don't take a cent off the state, because I have an education, and a real job. Something you know nothing about.
openspace
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11:27pm Mon 22 Mar 10
Soozie wrote:What a pleasure it is to read carefully written, well thought out and beautifully reasoned polite arguments like those above.
southendmechanic wrote:Jealous of oyu? LOL and I live hand to mouth? Sorry there bub, I don't take a cent off the state, because I have an education, and a real job. Something you know nothing about.Soozie wrote:yes but remeber they (if i dont sepnd it) will inherit all the property left to me ;-) you are just a jealous cow who gets upset that they are still living hand to mouth. Said before to the protestors i dont have a care or worry outside of the family these days and never have had to worry about money and never will.southendmechanic wrote: your argument for keeping the trees V has always been very very weak. And as you have said you dont normally come this way (we dont want you here anyway) it really wont affect you . thanks has been a pleasure but the situation is now sorted and i have the outcome i desired.The outcome I desired? You pathetic little weasel. Not only are you thick and moronic, but selfish and as stupid as they come. So far we have heard about your pikey lifestyle and family, how hard done by you are, how much your dad paid for the house, how much work you have (which I doubt because you are on here 24/7) etc etc. One thing that is totally obvious is the later in the day it gets, the drunker you get. One of these days you will get the sh!tkicking you deserve. Hopefully that will shut you up and put you out of your misery. 100% pure d!ckhead. I pity your kids, and certainly hope they do not take after you, Or there will be another generation of benefit pikey scrounging thicko's.
Or then again, perhaps not !!!
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