50mph on A127 because of Dale farm eviction

50mph on A127 because of Dale farm eviction

50mph on A127 because of Dale farm eviction

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MOTORISTS using the A127 face longer journeys because of the looming Dale Farm evictions.

From Friday, August 26, a temporary 50mph speed limit will cover a two-mile stretch of the busy dual carriageway.

The restriction will affect the Southend-bound carriageway, from the Noak Bridge turn-off to the A132 Wickford exit.

The normal 70mph limit will be reduced to 50mph for four weeks – although this could change, depending on how the evictions go.

The measure is being introduced by highways chiefs concerned about slow-moving caravans and trucks joining the road when 90 families are evicted from the illegal travellers’ site at Crays Hill.

An Essex County Council spokesman said: “The speed limit is due to the imminent expiry of the 28-day notice served on residents of the Dale Farm camp.

“It is being implemented, in the interests of safety, due to concerns that there may be increased vehicle movements from the site, particularly slow-moving towing vehicles joining the A127.’’ The spokesman added: “This is likely to last until the clearance operation is completed.

“It is not possible to say with certainty at this stage how long that will take.

“But it is heavily dependent on the willingness of the Dale Farm residents to comply peacefully with the terms of the notice to leave the site by midnight on August 31.

“We will work with Basildon Council to do all we can to keep disruption to roads and highways to a minimum and would ask road users have patience during this time.”

The county council has not said whether there will be speed cameras or police patrols to enforce the limit.

The Echo revealed on Thursday how a swathe of road closures will be introduced next week in areas surrounding the Dale Farm camp.

County council chiefs have also revealed how teachers working at Crays Hill Primary School – mostly attended by Dale Farm children – will spend their time marking and lesson planning if no pupils attend during the eviction period.

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8:10am Fri 26 Aug 11

el caballero de la noche says...

Those dam parasites that have paid nothing and given nothing to this area except violence and crime.

The sooner they go the better I would rather pay 18 million now to get rid of them than continuing years of crime and demands on our Eduction, NHS, Policing etc.

Go to Hell you Lawless parasites.
Those dam parasites that have paid nothing and given nothing to this area except violence and crime. The sooner they go the better I would rather pay 18 million now to get rid of them than continuing years of crime and demands on our Eduction, NHS, Policing etc. Go to Hell you Lawless parasites. el caballero de la noche
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9:02am Fri 26 Aug 11

John the resonator says...

Given the huge cost of this proposed eviction, which will be controversial to say the least and internationally newsworthy I feel it would have been better if some of the money was spent on providing a decent legal site in the first place.

In my view a lot of the problem stems from the removal of the obligation on local authorities to provide sites for travellers and the fact that 90% of traveller applications for planning permission are rejected compared to 20% overall.

We will now have an expensive and probably violent conclusion which will simply displace the problem somewhere else and amplify ill-feelings all around.

I do not admire those of the travellers who are lawless and I think if things people say on here about criminality, intimidation, non-payment of road tax etc. etc. are true then I cannot see why the law was not enforced in the same way it would have been for me. Instead the problem has been allowed to fester, creating resentment.

However, if one studies the nature of prejudice and xenophobia, I am often left wondering if these criticisms actually apply to the majority of the travellers or whether they are all being branded because of a minority of law-breakers and the alleged deeds of the whole community reported as 'fact.'

On another note, does anyone have trouble reading those new captcha characters or is it just me with my little laptop? I hate 'em!
Given the huge cost of this proposed eviction, which will be controversial to say the least and internationally newsworthy I feel it would have been better if some of the money was spent on providing a decent legal site in the first place. In my view a lot of the problem stems from the removal of the obligation on local authorities to provide sites for travellers and the fact that 90% of traveller applications for planning permission are rejected compared to 20% overall. We will now have an expensive and probably violent conclusion which will simply displace the problem somewhere else and amplify ill-feelings all around. I do not admire those of the travellers who are lawless and I think if things people say on here about criminality, intimidation, non-payment of road tax etc. etc. are true then I cannot see why the law was not enforced in the same way it would have been for me. Instead the problem has been allowed to fester, creating resentment. However, if one studies the nature of prejudice and xenophobia, I am often left wondering if these criticisms actually apply to the majority of the travellers or whether they are all being branded because of a minority of law-breakers and the alleged deeds of the whole community reported as 'fact.' On another note, does anyone have trouble reading those new captcha characters or is it just me with my little laptop? I hate 'em! John the resonator
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9:03am Fri 26 Aug 11

John the resonator says...

Given the huge cost of this proposed eviction, which will be controversial to say the least and internationally newsworthy I feel it would have been better if some of the money was spent on providing a decent legal site in the first place.

In my view a lot of the problem stems from the removal of the obligation on local authorities to provide sites for travellers and the fact that 90% of traveller applications for planning permission are rejected compared to 20% overall.

We will now have an expensive and probably violent conclusion which will simply displace the problem somewhere else and amplify ill-feelings all around.

I do not admire those of the travellers who are lawless and I think if things people say on here about criminality, intimidation, non-payment of road tax etc. etc. are true then I cannot see why the law was not enforced in the same way it would have been for me. Instead the problem has been allowed to fester, creating resentment.

However, if one studies the nature of prejudice and xenophobia, I am often left wondering if these criticisms actually apply to the majority of the travellers or whether they are all being branded because of a minority of law-breakers and the alleged deeds of the whole community reported as 'fact.'

On another note, does anyone have trouble reading those new captcha characters or is it just me with my little laptop? I hate 'em!
Given the huge cost of this proposed eviction, which will be controversial to say the least and internationally newsworthy I feel it would have been better if some of the money was spent on providing a decent legal site in the first place. In my view a lot of the problem stems from the removal of the obligation on local authorities to provide sites for travellers and the fact that 90% of traveller applications for planning permission are rejected compared to 20% overall. We will now have an expensive and probably violent conclusion which will simply displace the problem somewhere else and amplify ill-feelings all around. I do not admire those of the travellers who are lawless and I think if things people say on here about criminality, intimidation, non-payment of road tax etc. etc. are true then I cannot see why the law was not enforced in the same way it would have been for me. Instead the problem has been allowed to fester, creating resentment. However, if one studies the nature of prejudice and xenophobia, I am often left wondering if these criticisms actually apply to the majority of the travellers or whether they are all being branded because of a minority of law-breakers and the alleged deeds of the whole community reported as 'fact.' On another note, does anyone have trouble reading those new captcha characters or is it just me with my little laptop? I hate 'em! John the resonator
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9:06am Fri 26 Aug 11

John the resonator says...

Not wanting to bore you all with a repeat post but, as others have probably found the system tole me the code words did not match, I input the new ones provided to find it posted twice anyway.

Grrrrrrrrr!!
Not wanting to bore you all with a repeat post but, as others have probably found the system tole me the code words did not match, I input the new ones provided to find it posted twice anyway. Grrrrrrrrr!! John the resonator
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9:23am Fri 26 Aug 11

andyh says...

Just as long as it stays "temporary"

on the subject of the new captcha, I have seen it use Greek and accented characters on occasion.
Just as long as it stays "temporary" on the subject of the new captcha, I have seen it use Greek and accented characters on occasion. andyh
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9:32am Fri 26 Aug 11

nomoretogo says...

Does this speed restriction mean the council know where these people are relocating to then?
Does this speed restriction mean the council know where these people are relocating to then? nomoretogo
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9:58am Fri 26 Aug 11

Broadwaywatch says...

John the resonator wrote:
Given the huge cost of this proposed eviction, which will be controversial to say the least and internationally newsworthy I feel it would have been better if some of the money was spent on providing a decent legal site in the first place. In my view a lot of the problem stems from the removal of the obligation on local authorities to provide sites for travellers and the fact that 90% of traveller applications for planning permission are rejected compared to 20% overall. We will now have an expensive and probably violent conclusion which will simply displace the problem somewhere else and amplify ill-feelings all around. I do not admire those of the travellers who are lawless and I think if things people say on here about criminality, intimidation, non-payment of road tax etc. etc. are true then I cannot see why the law was not enforced in the same way it would have been for me. Instead the problem has been allowed to fester, creating resentment. However, if one studies the nature of prejudice and xenophobia, I am often left wondering if these criticisms actually apply to the majority of the travellers or whether they are all being branded because of a minority of law-breakers and the alleged deeds of the whole community reported as 'fact.' On another note, does anyone have trouble reading those new captcha characters or is it just me with my little laptop? I hate 'em!
I agree with what you have to say John especially the reference to prejudice and xenophobia. I read a lot of what ‘el caballero de la noche’ has to say and on all matters he seems to have a view which is not in itself a bad thing. However, what I find alarming and somewhat distasteful is how rudely he speaks of all and to all that do not sure his same opinion; be it his opinion on travellers, the airport, the seafront etc. etc.
I myself am the son of a traveller although sadly I never got to meet my father however I have relatives who for numerous years have lived on a Gypsy site in Berkshire. Happily they live there as hard working Tax paying law abiding citizen’s not **** lawless parasites as ‘el caballero de la noche’ likes to label all travellers.
Sensible words from you John and thank you for expressing them they way you did in a polite sensible manner.
[quote][p][bold]John the resonator[/bold] wrote: Given the huge cost of this proposed eviction, which will be controversial to say the least and internationally newsworthy I feel it would have been better if some of the money was spent on providing a decent legal site in the first place. In my view a lot of the problem stems from the removal of the obligation on local authorities to provide sites for travellers and the fact that 90% of traveller applications for planning permission are rejected compared to 20% overall. We will now have an expensive and probably violent conclusion which will simply displace the problem somewhere else and amplify ill-feelings all around. I do not admire those of the travellers who are lawless and I think if things people say on here about criminality, intimidation, non-payment of road tax etc. etc. are true then I cannot see why the law was not enforced in the same way it would have been for me. Instead the problem has been allowed to fester, creating resentment. However, if one studies the nature of prejudice and xenophobia, I am often left wondering if these criticisms actually apply to the majority of the travellers or whether they are all being branded because of a minority of law-breakers and the alleged deeds of the whole community reported as 'fact.' On another note, does anyone have trouble reading those new captcha characters or is it just me with my little laptop? I hate 'em![/p][/quote]I agree with what you have to say John especially the reference to prejudice and xenophobia. I read a lot of what ‘el caballero de la noche’ has to say and on all matters he seems to have a view which is not in itself a bad thing. However, what I find alarming and somewhat distasteful is how rudely he speaks of all and to all that do not sure his same opinion; be it his opinion on travellers, the airport, the seafront etc. etc. I myself am the son of a traveller although sadly I never got to meet my father however I have relatives who for numerous years have lived on a Gypsy site in Berkshire. Happily they live there as hard working Tax paying law abiding citizen’s not **** lawless parasites as ‘el caballero de la noche’ likes to label all travellers. Sensible words from you John and thank you for expressing them they way you did in a polite sensible manner. Broadwaywatch
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10:06am Fri 26 Aug 11

geezer, innit says...

is that slow enough to 'rubberneck' safely I wonder?
is that slow enough to 'rubberneck' safely I wonder? geezer, innit
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11:22am Fri 26 Aug 11

Ironman says...

Broadwaywatch wrote:
John the resonator wrote:
Given the huge cost of this proposed eviction, which will be controversial to say the least and internationally newsworthy I feel it would have been better if some of the money was spent on providing a decent legal site in the first place. In my view a lot of the problem stems from the removal of the obligation on local authorities to provide sites for travellers and the fact that 90% of traveller applications for planning permission are rejected compared to 20% overall. We will now have an expensive and probably violent conclusion which will simply displace the problem somewhere else and amplify ill-feelings all around. I do not admire those of the travellers who are lawless and I think if things people say on here about criminality, intimidation, non-payment of road tax etc. etc. are true then I cannot see why the law was not enforced in the same way it would have been for me. Instead the problem has been allowed to fester, creating resentment. However, if one studies the nature of prejudice and xenophobia, I am often left wondering if these criticisms actually apply to the majority of the travellers or whether they are all being branded because of a minority of law-breakers and the alleged deeds of the whole community reported as 'fact.' On another note, does anyone have trouble reading those new captcha characters or is it just me with my little laptop? I hate 'em!
I agree with what you have to say John especially the reference to prejudice and xenophobia. I read a lot of what ‘el caballero de la noche’ has to say and on all matters he seems to have a view which is not in itself a bad thing. However, what I find alarming and somewhat distasteful is how rudely he speaks of all and to all that do not sure his same opinion; be it his opinion on travellers, the airport, the seafront etc. etc.
I myself am the son of a traveller although sadly I never got to meet my father however I have relatives who for numerous years have lived on a Gypsy site in Berkshire. Happily they live there as hard working Tax paying law abiding citizen’s not **** lawless parasites as ‘el caballero de la noche’ likes to label all travellers.
Sensible words from you John and thank you for expressing them they way you did in a polite sensible manner.
To be honest, I don't think many on here have too many issues with 'traditional' travellers if they obey the law, declare their income and pay their taxes acc. to the law.
However, I and others am fed up to the back teeth by these Irish chancers who think that any loophole is their God given right exploit by any means at their disposal.
I have spoken to (settled) Gypsies in this area who detest the Dale Farm lot with a vengeance, mainly because of the bad name that they give to anybody with romany blood.
Yes, there are good and ban in all walks of life but this lot have deliberately, by design and forethought, tried to exploit their so called ethnicity (thats a larf), traditional ways (another larf) and our dopey, half-witted law makers and Politicians.
Time to stop this farce and, more importantly, send a strong message to any other Outlaws who want to exploit all the benefits of our society without any of the contributions or responsibilities.
[quote][p][bold]Broadwaywatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John the resonator[/bold] wrote: Given the huge cost of this proposed eviction, which will be controversial to say the least and internationally newsworthy I feel it would have been better if some of the money was spent on providing a decent legal site in the first place. In my view a lot of the problem stems from the removal of the obligation on local authorities to provide sites for travellers and the fact that 90% of traveller applications for planning permission are rejected compared to 20% overall. We will now have an expensive and probably violent conclusion which will simply displace the problem somewhere else and amplify ill-feelings all around. I do not admire those of the travellers who are lawless and I think if things people say on here about criminality, intimidation, non-payment of road tax etc. etc. are true then I cannot see why the law was not enforced in the same way it would have been for me. Instead the problem has been allowed to fester, creating resentment. However, if one studies the nature of prejudice and xenophobia, I am often left wondering if these criticisms actually apply to the majority of the travellers or whether they are all being branded because of a minority of law-breakers and the alleged deeds of the whole community reported as 'fact.' On another note, does anyone have trouble reading those new captcha characters or is it just me with my little laptop? I hate 'em![/p][/quote]I agree with what you have to say John especially the reference to prejudice and xenophobia. I read a lot of what ‘el caballero de la noche’ has to say and on all matters he seems to have a view which is not in itself a bad thing. However, what I find alarming and somewhat distasteful is how rudely he speaks of all and to all that do not sure his same opinion; be it his opinion on travellers, the airport, the seafront etc. etc. I myself am the son of a traveller although sadly I never got to meet my father however I have relatives who for numerous years have lived on a Gypsy site in Berkshire. Happily they live there as hard working Tax paying law abiding citizen’s not **** lawless parasites as ‘el caballero de la noche’ likes to label all travellers. Sensible words from you John and thank you for expressing them they way you did in a polite sensible manner.[/p][/quote]To be honest, I don't think many on here have too many issues with 'traditional' travellers if they obey the law, declare their income and pay their taxes acc. to the law. However, I and others am fed up to the back teeth by these Irish chancers who think that any loophole is their God given right exploit by any means at their disposal. I have spoken to (settled) Gypsies in this area who detest the Dale Farm lot with a vengeance, mainly because of the bad name that they give to anybody with romany blood. Yes, there are good and ban in all walks of life but this lot have deliberately, by design and forethought, tried to exploit their so called ethnicity (thats a larf), traditional ways (another larf) and our dopey, half-witted law makers and Politicians. Time to stop this farce and, more importantly, send a strong message to any other Outlaws who want to exploit all the benefits of our society without any of the contributions or responsibilities. Ironman
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1:17pm Fri 26 Aug 11

John the resonator says...

!!BaSiLdOn!! wrote:
Haha. This makes me laugh. As a speeder I certainly wont be sticking to the 50mph limit. Its a national speed limit road and I will not be slowing down for a bunch of travellers. In fact im going to drive so fast down there, in the hope I smash into one of the b a s t a r d s.
So, !!BaSiLdOn!! you are writing as someone who often celebrates your irresponsible (lawless and anti-social) driving.

I wonder if you can see the flaw in your statement?
[quote][p][bold]!!BaSiLdOn!![/bold] wrote: Haha. This makes me laugh. As a speeder I certainly wont be sticking to the 50mph limit. Its a national speed limit road and I will not be slowing down for a bunch of travellers. In fact im going to drive so fast down there, in the hope I smash into one of the b a s t a r d s.[/p][/quote]So, !!BaSiLdOn!! you are writing as someone who often celebrates your irresponsible (lawless and anti-social) driving. I wonder if you can see the flaw in your statement? John the resonator
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2:40pm Fri 26 Aug 11

ivor hardon says...

!!BaSiLdOn!! wrote:
Haha. This makes me laugh. As a speeder I certainly wont be sticking to the 50mph limit. Its a national speed limit road and I will not be slowing down for a bunch of travellers. In fact im going to drive so fast down there, in the hope I smash into one of the b a s t a r d s.
What a clever brave person you are,your courage is an inspiration to me.
[quote][p][bold]!!BaSiLdOn!![/bold] wrote: Haha. This makes me laugh. As a speeder I certainly wont be sticking to the 50mph limit. Its a national speed limit road and I will not be slowing down for a bunch of travellers. In fact im going to drive so fast down there, in the hope I smash into one of the b a s t a r d s.[/p][/quote]What a clever brave person you are,your courage is an inspiration to me. ivor hardon
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4:53pm Fri 26 Aug 11

saddo99 says...

Have I missed something here? Isn't the speed limit already 50mph according to those horrible yellow gantries. I wondered why everyone was whizzing passed.
Have I missed something here? Isn't the speed limit already 50mph according to those horrible yellow gantries. I wondered why everyone was whizzing passed. saddo99
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6:24pm Fri 26 Aug 11

vic b says...

John the resonator wrote:
Given the huge cost of this proposed eviction, which will be controversial to say the least and internationally newsworthy I feel it would have been better if some of the money was spent on providing a decent legal site in the first place. In my view a lot of the problem stems from the removal of the obligation on local authorities to provide sites for travellers and the fact that 90% of traveller applications for planning permission are rejected compared to 20% overall. We will now have an expensive and probably violent conclusion which will simply displace the problem somewhere else and amplify ill-feelings all around. I do not admire those of the travellers who are lawless and I think if things people say on here about criminality, intimidation, non-payment of road tax etc. etc. are true then I cannot see why the law was not enforced in the same way it would have been for me. Instead the problem has been allowed to fester, creating resentment. However, if one studies the nature of prejudice and xenophobia, I am often left wondering if these criticisms actually apply to the majority of the travellers or whether they are all being branded because of a minority of law-breakers and the alleged deeds of the whole community reported as 'fact.' On another note, does anyone have trouble reading those new captcha characters or is it just me with my little laptop? I hate 'em!
Presumably,you have a view on where "a decent legal site" should be and how the issues of planning consent would be overcome.

The removal of LA obligations to make provision has not helped but the high percentage of refusals to grant travellers planning permission - a favorite traveller propaganda line - is because so many are in respect to green belt land.
[quote][p][bold]John the resonator[/bold] wrote: Given the huge cost of this proposed eviction, which will be controversial to say the least and internationally newsworthy I feel it would have been better if some of the money was spent on providing a decent legal site in the first place. In my view a lot of the problem stems from the removal of the obligation on local authorities to provide sites for travellers and the fact that 90% of traveller applications for planning permission are rejected compared to 20% overall. We will now have an expensive and probably violent conclusion which will simply displace the problem somewhere else and amplify ill-feelings all around. I do not admire those of the travellers who are lawless and I think if things people say on here about criminality, intimidation, non-payment of road tax etc. etc. are true then I cannot see why the law was not enforced in the same way it would have been for me. Instead the problem has been allowed to fester, creating resentment. However, if one studies the nature of prejudice and xenophobia, I am often left wondering if these criticisms actually apply to the majority of the travellers or whether they are all being branded because of a minority of law-breakers and the alleged deeds of the whole community reported as 'fact.' On another note, does anyone have trouble reading those new captcha characters or is it just me with my little laptop? I hate 'em![/p][/quote]Presumably,you have a view on where "a decent legal site" should be and how the issues of planning consent would be overcome. The removal of LA obligations to make provision has not helped but the high percentage of refusals to grant travellers planning permission - a favorite traveller propaganda line - is because so many are in respect to green belt land. vic b
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9:22pm Fri 26 Aug 11

smiler:) says...

Would have thought it better to hit them at 70mph rather than 50mph. Assuming I survive of course.
Would have thought it better to hit them at 70mph rather than 50mph. Assuming I survive of course. smiler:)
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9:24pm Fri 26 Aug 11

smiler:) says...

Would have thought it better to hit them at 70mph rather than 50mph. Assuming I survive of course.
Would have thought it better to hit them at 70mph rather than 50mph. Assuming I survive of course. smiler:)
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9:46pm Fri 26 Aug 11

ConcernedEssexBoy says...

Give the Travellers a break!

They are hard working, respectable pillars of our community. They are law abiding, friendly folk, who would do anything for you.

People are so unkind about them at times!
Give the Travellers a break! They are hard working, respectable pillars of our community. They are law abiding, friendly folk, who would do anything for you. People are so unkind about them at times! ConcernedEssexBoy
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8:26am Sat 27 Aug 11

Mitjt91 says...

I for one like others on here know travellers and again like others on here know that they are kind law abiding people who have generally got the bad name from others.

On to the point of this story they are saying that the 50mph speed limit is only for the southend bound carrigeway. Does this not mean that the council are implamenting that the evicted travellers will only be travveling in that direction.

And also somebody correct me if I'm wrong but on driving Southend bound now I will have the 40mph limit at the fortune of war. Then 50mph from noam hill to the wickford junction and then 70mph to just past the dick Turpin and then back down to 50mph.
Am I the only one who doesn't see much point in the random maximum bit now in the middle ?
I for one like others on here know travellers and again like others on here know that they are kind law abiding people who have generally got the bad name from others. On to the point of this story they are saying that the 50mph speed limit is only for the southend bound carrigeway. Does this not mean that the council are implamenting that the evicted travellers will only be travveling in that direction. And also somebody correct me if I'm wrong but on driving Southend bound now I will have the 40mph limit at the fortune of war. Then 50mph from noam hill to the wickford junction and then 70mph to just past the dick Turpin and then back down to 50mph. Am I the only one who doesn't see much point in the random maximum bit now in the middle ? Mitjt91
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1:04pm Sat 27 Aug 11

APR says...

There is a marked decrease in fatal accidents on the A127 since the 50mph limit was imposed.

In fact, I don't think there have been any.
There is a marked decrease in fatal accidents on the A127 since the 50mph limit was imposed. In fact, I don't think there have been any. APR
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1:04pm Sat 27 Aug 11

APR says...

There is a marked decrease in fatal accidents on the A127 since the 50mph limit was imposed.

In fact, I don't think there have been any.
There is a marked decrease in fatal accidents on the A127 since the 50mph limit was imposed. In fact, I don't think there have been any. APR
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4:37pm Sat 27 Aug 11

bob7 says...

I hope they are going to have the DVLA on hand to check for licences, road tax and insurance for the vehicles leaving the site. Those that are not legal should be crushed.
I hope they are going to have the DVLA on hand to check for licences, road tax and insurance for the vehicles leaving the site. Those that are not legal should be crushed. bob7
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11:04pm Sat 27 Aug 11

Mikeyzaz says...

ok. The council are trying to get rid of them then restrict the speed that they can leave at?

Sad. Does it really take two weeks for the passage of ninety caravans? and when they get to Wickford, they can speed up again. I must say I normally don't jump on the bad wagon of calling the council foolsih but in this case, the cap really fits so well
ok. The council are trying to get rid of them then restrict the speed that they can leave at? Sad. Does it really take two weeks for the passage of ninety caravans? and when they get to Wickford, they can speed up again. I must say I normally don't jump on the bad wagon of calling the council foolsih but in this case, the cap really fits so well Mikeyzaz
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12:20am Sun 28 Aug 11

Essexboy07 says...

Are there any signs advising of this temporary limit? I have not seen any. I see that this story was published the day that the limit came into force. I for one have only just become aware of this change and judging by the traffic on the A127 over the last two days a lot of people will be getting court summonses and losing driving licenses.
Are there any signs advising of this temporary limit? I have not seen any. I see that this story was published the day that the limit came into force. I for one have only just become aware of this change and judging by the traffic on the A127 over the last two days a lot of people will be getting court summonses and losing driving licenses. Essexboy07
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12:25pm Sun 28 Aug 11

michelle43 says...

No one would mind if they were law abiding citizens, but if anyone else built onto their property without planning permission they would have to remove the structure, and i live near Dale farm and they behave worse than animals just ask the staff in the nearby KFC how many times they,ve had to clean faeces off the wall in the toilets after the travellers have been in.
Another point is they are travellers, well travel then and go some where else.
No one would mind if they were law abiding citizens, but if anyone else built onto their property without planning permission they would have to remove the structure, and i live near Dale farm and they behave worse than animals just ask the staff in the nearby KFC how many times they,ve had to clean faeces off the wall in the toilets after the travellers have been in. Another point is they are travellers, well travel then and go some where else. michelle43
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3:38pm Sun 28 Aug 11

dxb-sn says...

I am sad to read so many of the comments here. Whatever happened to humanity?

I have made some observations in my latest blog posting - http://blog.denesh.c
o.uk/?p=688

Anyway, some recent comments are talking about planing permissions etc. Granted that if we as homeowners were to erect a structure that was against planning laws, the council would come down on us. That is true.. however has no one noticed how the council only comes down on you if they believe they can win?

As an example.. how many times have large businesses (such as Tesco) gained planning permission, only to erect structures that are larger than the permission was granted? Council realises, asks Tesco to fix the situation, Tesco retaliates with it's lawyers, council backs down.

So.. a non-law abiding British business yet most people who are complaining about the travellers revere such businesses and the disgusting business practices such businesses have?

Upside down thinking.
I am sad to read so many of the comments here. Whatever happened to humanity? I have made some observations in my latest blog posting - http://blog.denesh.c o.uk/?p=688 Anyway, some recent comments are talking about planing permissions etc. Granted that if we as homeowners were to erect a structure that was against planning laws, the council would come down on us. That is true.. however has no one noticed how the council only comes down on you if they believe they can win? As an example.. how many times have large businesses (such as Tesco) gained planning permission, only to erect structures that are larger than the permission was granted? Council realises, asks Tesco to fix the situation, Tesco retaliates with it's lawyers, council backs down. So.. a non-law abiding British business yet most people who are complaining about the travellers revere such businesses and the disgusting business practices such businesses have? Upside down thinking. dxb-sn
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5:45pm Sun 28 Aug 11

Rayleigh mum says...

drove along the A127 saturday lunchtime and there were no signs advising of a 50mph limit. we joined from Pipps Hill Road North and carried on to Rayleigh Weir.
drove along the A127 saturday lunchtime and there were no signs advising of a 50mph limit. we joined from Pipps Hill Road North and carried on to Rayleigh Weir. Rayleigh mum
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1:25am Mon 29 Aug 11

whataday says...

Regarding Irish diddycoys and Council Planning Permission maybe the reason Castle Point council let that bloke build that monstrosity which he called a shed (warehouse to normal people) in his garden was so the dale farm residents could move in there
Regarding Irish diddycoys and Council Planning Permission maybe the reason Castle Point council let that bloke build that monstrosity which he called a shed (warehouse to normal people) in his garden was so the dale farm residents could move in there whataday
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5:50pm Mon 29 Aug 11

manuelization says...

Why don't all the racists thugs on here do the world a favor, especially ("El caballero de la noche") and DROP DEAD!
Why don't all the racists thugs on here do the world a favor, especially ("El caballero de la noche") and DROP DEAD! manuelization
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4:17pm Tue 30 Aug 11

r6keith says...

Mikeyzaz wrote:
ok. The council are trying to get rid of them then restrict the speed that they can leave at? Sad. Does it really take two weeks for the passage of ninety caravans? and when they get to Wickford, they can speed up again. I must say I normally don't jump on the bad wagon of calling the council foolsih but in this case, the cap really fits so well
Have they still got caravans ?
[quote][p][bold]Mikeyzaz[/bold] wrote: ok. The council are trying to get rid of them then restrict the speed that they can leave at? Sad. Does it really take two weeks for the passage of ninety caravans? and when they get to Wickford, they can speed up again. I must say I normally don't jump on the bad wagon of calling the council foolsih but in this case, the cap really fits so well[/p][/quote]Have they still got caravans ? r6keith
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4:28pm Tue 30 Aug 11

Alekhine says...

I trust all the vehicles have valid tax, insurance and MOT....(Sarge, the ANPR has just gone crazy).
I trust all the vehicles have valid tax, insurance and MOT....(Sarge, the ANPR has just gone crazy). Alekhine
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11:20pm Tue 30 Aug 11

liseinga says...

On the tv programme about Dale Farm a while back one lady stated that they just want to be treated like everybody else. Well, if anybody else built on greenbelt land without Planning Permission they would get told to pull it down a lot sooner than the residents of Dale Farm have been dealt with, so if they want to be treated like everybody else they should have been evicted a long time ago.
On the tv programme about Dale Farm a while back one lady stated that they just want to be treated like everybody else. Well, if anybody else built on greenbelt land without Planning Permission they would get told to pull it down a lot sooner than the residents of Dale Farm have been dealt with, so if they want to be treated like everybody else they should have been evicted a long time ago. liseinga
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9:42am Wed 31 Aug 11

c.c doorman says...

WELL ALL THESE DO GOODERS THAT WANT THE SO CALLED TRAVELLERS THAT DONT TRAVELL TOO STAY SHOULD TRY PUTTING THEM UP IN THEIR GARDEN !! THEY HAVE DESTROYED CRAYS HILL AND ITS BEEN UNDER SIEGE FOR TEN YEARS !!
THEY AINT WANTED IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY SO Y SHOULD WE PUT UP WITH THEIR THIEVING ,TAX DODGING AND VIOLENT WAYS ??
DALE FARM IS A FARM NOT A PIKIE HAVEN FOR CRIME THEY SAY NO ONE LIKES THEM WELL I WONDER WHY ??
WHAT GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO BREAK EVERY LAW THEN EXPECT TOBE PROTECTED BY IT ??? THE SHERIDANS ARE THEIVES AND RAPISTS AND DONT DESERVE FREE HOUSING OR DOLE MONEY THIS COUNTRY IS NEARLY BANKRUPT AND THIS SCUM IS ONE OV THE REASONS FOR IT NOT ONLY KICK THEM OUT BUT MAKE EM PAY FOR THE CLEAN UP OF THE CESS PIT THEY CALL A COMMUNITY DIRTTY ROTTERN RACE !!
WELL ALL THESE DO GOODERS THAT WANT THE SO CALLED TRAVELLERS THAT DONT TRAVELL TOO STAY SHOULD TRY PUTTING THEM UP IN THEIR GARDEN !! THEY HAVE DESTROYED CRAYS HILL AND ITS BEEN UNDER SIEGE FOR TEN YEARS !! THEY AINT WANTED IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY SO Y SHOULD WE PUT UP WITH THEIR THIEVING ,TAX DODGING AND VIOLENT WAYS ?? DALE FARM IS A FARM NOT A PIKIE HAVEN FOR CRIME THEY SAY NO ONE LIKES THEM WELL I WONDER WHY ?? WHAT GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO BREAK EVERY LAW THEN EXPECT TOBE PROTECTED BY IT ??? THE SHERIDANS ARE THEIVES AND RAPISTS AND DONT DESERVE FREE HOUSING OR DOLE MONEY THIS COUNTRY IS NEARLY BANKRUPT AND THIS SCUM IS ONE OV THE REASONS FOR IT NOT ONLY KICK THEM OUT BUT MAKE EM PAY FOR THE CLEAN UP OF THE CESS PIT THEY CALL A COMMUNITY DIRTTY ROTTERN RACE !! c.c doorman
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7:06pm Fri 2 Sep 11

Last Poster says...

manuelization wrote:
Why don't all the racists thugs on here do the world a favor, especially ("El caballero de la noche") and DROP DEAD!
I have Irish relatives and spend a lot of time their. I think the Irish are a cracking race of people. However, the Irish Tinkers that are involved here are not the best loved people in either country. We had gypsies camping by the roadside way way before Basildon New Town, I knew some of those and found them good people. I was a little racist, I used to think I lived in a country with the best people in the world, but I have learned different since. But in case you missed it, when that "Good Lady" spoke on BBC Essex yesterday, she wished a "Gypsy Curse" on all of us. That probably included you so watch your step when wishing individuals to drop dead.
And I really hate the new Echo security fingy. I have not the best of eyes and was not trained to read ink blots. Get shot of that system
[quote][p][bold]manuelization[/bold] wrote: Why don't all the racists thugs on here do the world a favor, especially ("El caballero de la noche") and DROP DEAD![/p][/quote]I have Irish relatives and spend a lot of time their. I think the Irish are a cracking race of people. However, the Irish Tinkers that are involved here are not the best loved people in either country. We had gypsies camping by the roadside way way before Basildon New Town, I knew some of those and found them good people. I was a little racist, I used to think I lived in a country with the best people in the world, but I have learned different since. But in case you missed it, when that "Good Lady" spoke on BBC Essex yesterday, she wished a "Gypsy Curse" on all of us. That probably included you so watch your step when wishing individuals to drop dead. And I really hate the new Echo security fingy. I have not the best of eyes and was not trained to read ink blots. Get shot of that system Last Poster
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1:46pm Thu 8 Sep 11

EssexBornAndBred says...

el caballero de la noche wrote:
Those dam parasites that have paid nothing and given nothing to this area except violence and crime. The sooner they go the better I would rather pay 18 million now to get rid of them than continuing years of crime and demands on our Eduction, NHS, Policing etc. Go to Hell you Lawless parasites.
Too right 'el caballero', these scum bags have plagued Essex for too long.
I cannot wait for the final eviction, it will be better than the big brother evictions.
These people pay no income tax, NI, and council tax.
They claim benefits whilst running their tarmac businesses.
Does anybody know if they are recruiting for the eviction, it sounds like fun?
Hopefully when they move on, they wind up in a place where the locals make their lives a nightmare just as they have done to us for the last decade.
[quote][p][bold]el caballero de la noche[/bold] wrote: Those dam parasites that have paid nothing and given nothing to this area except violence and crime. The sooner they go the better I would rather pay 18 million now to get rid of them than continuing years of crime and demands on our Eduction, NHS, Policing etc. Go to Hell you Lawless parasites.[/p][/quote]Too right 'el caballero', these scum bags have plagued Essex for too long. I cannot wait for the final eviction, it will be better than the big brother evictions. These people pay no income tax, NI, and council tax. They claim benefits whilst running their tarmac businesses. Does anybody know if they are recruiting for the eviction, it sounds like fun? Hopefully when they move on, they wind up in a place where the locals make their lives a nightmare just as they have done to us for the last decade. EssexBornAndBred
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2:09pm Thu 8 Sep 11

riddler91 says...

Hasn't Essex been disrupted enough by this leeching blight on humanity already without the need to impose unnessescary speed limits on the law abiding public to safeguard the lives of a bunch of thieving, drug abusing, murderous pikey scum.

Why should we, the law abiding public, suffer further from having these undeseriables in our area? Havent we suffered enough? They bring with them nothing of value, they are criminals to a man, they are dirty, they do not value life, I doubt any of them have ever done an honest days work in the entire parasetic little lives, and once again it is us that are punished. In all honesty, if a bunch of pikeys died in a car crash because of people driving at 70 miles an hour, would anybody care? Would anybody bat an eyelid or would you all be thinking the exact same thing as me? "Good"

In an ideal world this wouldnt be an eviction, it would be a systematic ethnic cleansing of this scum from our society. I actually feel if Hitler turned up on my doorstep and said 'Hey, I'm really sorry about the whole Holocaust thing... I've got a new plan that involves putting all the pikeys to death..." you know what, he'd get my vote.

You "traveller" scum wonder why the rest of the country doesnt like you, have you ever stopped to look at yourselves for just a second? If one person doesnt like me, I think its up to them. If three people dont like me then its probably not coincidence, when the whole **** country hates you root and branch I think you can safely assume that its because you're a curse on humanity and the best thing for the world would involve throwing you all in a swimming pool full of acid.

As for all you left wing hippies that are saying 'do not persecute them, they have done nothing wrong, its against their human rights' - Have any of you had to deal with this cancer on a daily basis? Do you know what its like to be attacked for no reason? Do you know what its like to watch them take a nice, respectable area and run it into the ground? If you want them to have a safe place to stay so badly, put them up in your garden, watch them destroy it, enjoy them breaking into your house, covering your drive with unwanted tarmac and stealing everything that isn't nailed down.

Kill them. Kill every single last one of them.
Hasn't Essex been disrupted enough by this leeching blight on humanity already without the need to impose unnessescary speed limits on the law abiding public to safeguard the lives of a bunch of thieving, drug abusing, murderous pikey scum. Why should we, the law abiding public, suffer further from having these undeseriables in our area? Havent we suffered enough? They bring with them nothing of value, they are criminals to a man, they are dirty, they do not value life, I doubt any of them have ever done an honest days work in the entire parasetic little lives, and once again it is us that are punished. In all honesty, if a bunch of pikeys died in a car crash because of people driving at 70 miles an hour, would anybody care? Would anybody bat an eyelid or would you all be thinking the exact same thing as me? "Good" In an ideal world this wouldnt be an eviction, it would be a systematic ethnic cleansing of this scum from our society. I actually feel if Hitler turned up on my doorstep and said 'Hey, I'm really sorry about the whole Holocaust thing... I've got a new plan that involves putting all the pikeys to death..." you know what, he'd get my vote. You "traveller" scum wonder why the rest of the country doesnt like you, have you ever stopped to look at yourselves for just a second? If one person doesnt like me, I think its up to them. If three people dont like me then its probably not coincidence, when the whole **** country hates you root and branch I think you can safely assume that its because you're a curse on humanity and the best thing for the world would involve throwing you all in a swimming pool full of acid. As for all you left wing hippies that are saying 'do not persecute them, they have done nothing wrong, its against their human rights' - Have any of you had to deal with this cancer on a daily basis? Do you know what its like to be attacked for no reason? Do you know what its like to watch them take a nice, respectable area and run it into the ground? If you want them to have a safe place to stay so badly, put them up in your garden, watch them destroy it, enjoy them breaking into your house, covering your drive with unwanted tarmac and stealing everything that isn't nailed down. Kill them. Kill every single last one of them. riddler91
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8:04am Fri 23 Sep 11

Broadwaywatch says...

Last night at 10 30.....Guess what....not hardly any traffic on southend bound A127 near Dale farm but there was in operation a speed camera van operating on the temp speed limit because of possible movement of caravan from the Dale Farm site. I0. 30 at night? Can that be truely justify other that just to make money. Considering the courts do not make up their minds if the travellers have to leave or not until today it makes you think if the camera car was necessary to inforce the speed limit until the High Court judgement had been made today Friday. Never have I seen a speed limit enforcement van at that time of night before especially when it is not a safety issue until today
It was to make money and that was all.
Last night at 10 30.....Guess what....not hardly any traffic on southend bound A127 near Dale farm but there was in operation a speed camera van operating on the temp speed limit because of possible movement of caravan from the Dale Farm site. I0. 30 at night? Can that be truely justify other that just to make money. Considering the courts do not make up their minds if the travellers have to leave or not until today it makes you think if the camera car was necessary to inforce the speed limit until the High Court judgement had been made today Friday. Never have I seen a speed limit enforcement van at that time of night before especially when it is not a safety issue until today It was to make money and that was all. Broadwaywatch
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