Southend's weekly flights to Germany and Romania - for Ford workers only

FORD will use Southend Airport for weekly flights to its factories in Germany and Romania.

The Echo can reveal the global car giant has signed a deal with airport bosses to revive its shuttle service for employees, with the first plane due to depart on Monday morning.

Ford used the airport for a similar service between 2006 and 2008, but was forced to seek alternatives after Flightline, the airline which operated the route, went into administration.

Alastair Welch, the airport’s managing director, said he was delighted to have Ford back.

Ford’s UK headquarters are based in Warley, near Brentwood.

However, its construction plants are spread all over Europe and the firm needs regular shuttle services to ferry workers and managers between its sites.

The flights from Southend will take employees to factories in Cologne, Germany, and Craiova, in Romania.

The plants build the firm’s trademark Fiesta cars, as well as the new B-Max. Flights will leave Southend on Monday mornings and return at the end of the week.

Ford will initially use British airline Jet2, which is known for its passenger flights from airports in northern England, to run the service.

German airline Germania is scheduled to take over the route in the summer.

The rolling nature of the contract means it is not clear how much it will be worth to the airport.

However, as charters, there will be no seats on the flights for paying passengers.

It is not known what aircraft will be used, but Flightline used an Avro RJ100 to run its shuttle service before the company ran into financial problems in November 2008.

The collapse forced Ford to arrange other deals with different airlines and airports, but the company is believed to have always favoured a return to Southend because of its proximity.

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6:26pm Sun 8 Jan 12

APR says...

I expect they will use their aircraft, which has been parked at the airport since Flightline packed up.
No doubt they will also want their car park back.
I expect they will use their aircraft, which has been parked at the airport since Flightline packed up. No doubt they will also want their car park back. APR

6:39pm Sun 8 Jan 12

southendshrimper says...

Good news for the airport. Airport 1 Nimbys 0.
Good news for the airport. Airport 1 Nimbys 0. southendshrimper

6:54pm Sun 8 Jan 12

Max Impact says...

They will be operated by jet2 with a Boeing 737 or a 757. It will be taken over later in the year by Germania.

Wait for the anti-airport minority to start bleating on and on.

Before they do the Fordair flights are ONLY for people thaqt work for Ford no fare paying passengers will be permitted on the flights, so they are non-scheduled flights.
They will be operated by jet2 with a Boeing 737 or a 757. It will be taken over later in the year by Germania. Wait for the anti-airport minority to start bleating on and on. Before they do the Fordair flights are ONLY for people thaqt work for Ford no fare paying passengers will be permitted on the flights, so they are non-scheduled flights. Max Impact

6:57pm Sun 8 Jan 12

BASILBRUSH says...

Good news.
Good news. BASILBRUSH

6:59pm Sun 8 Jan 12

tws123 says...

The aircraft used will be a Boeing 737 by Jet2.com (this has arrived today and is currently at the airport so know that this is true), and Germania will use an Airbus A319.
The aircraft used will be a Boeing 737 by Jet2.com (this has arrived today and is currently at the airport so know that this is true), and Germania will use an Airbus A319. tws123

10:56pm Sun 8 Jan 12

Nebs says...

southendshrimper wrote:
Good news for the airport. Airport 1 Nimbys 0.
I think the current score is about 8 - 0.
[quote][p][bold]southendshrimper[/bold] wrote: Good news for the airport. Airport 1 Nimbys 0.[/p][/quote]I think the current score is about 8 - 0. Nebs

7:50am Mon 9 Jan 12

Bosniavet says...

Good news. I bet my sister, who has to travel for Ford will be pleased as she lives close by.
Good news. I bet my sister, who has to travel for Ford will be pleased as she lives close by. Bosniavet

9:30am Mon 9 Jan 12

jayman says...

i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people!
i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people! jayman

9:59am Mon 9 Jan 12

westcliff willi says...

jayman wrote:
i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people!
more uniformed tripe from jayman, most employees that leave britain are engineers who actually work full time in Germany,management going back and forth to meetings or launch team employees with the same coming this way too.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people![/p][/quote]more uniformed tripe from jayman, most employees that leave britain are engineers who actually work full time in Germany,management going back and forth to meetings or launch team employees with the same coming this way too. westcliff willi

10:24am Mon 9 Jan 12

tophatdt says...

jayman wrote:
i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people!
My Goodness! What a load of dribble this man writes. Seems anti everything connected to the airport, and lacks knowledge about almost everythingelse. Go to the movies this afternoon, sir, and have some fun.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people![/p][/quote]My Goodness! What a load of dribble this man writes. Seems anti everything connected to the airport, and lacks knowledge about almost everythingelse. Go to the movies this afternoon, sir, and have some fun. tophatdt

11:30am Mon 9 Jan 12

DannyK86 says...

jayman wrote:
i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people!
What nonsense - Ford have been carrying out flights between the UK and other plant locations for years and years and years. They used to fly from southend in the past.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people![/p][/quote]What nonsense - Ford have been carrying out flights between the UK and other plant locations for years and years and years. They used to fly from southend in the past. DannyK86

12:03pm Mon 9 Jan 12

a127scamera says...

jayman wrote:
i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people!
????? whats it got to do with economic slowdown! twonk or disgruntled ex-Visteon employee?

More people employed on flightdeck and in airport for these flights and a good thing for Ford...cheaper than employees using commercial flights and better use of their time as only need one hour pre boarding.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people![/p][/quote]????? whats it got to do with economic slowdown! twonk or disgruntled ex-Visteon employee? More people employed on flightdeck and in airport for these flights and a good thing for Ford...cheaper than employees using commercial flights and better use of their time as only need one hour pre boarding. a127scamera

12:03pm Mon 9 Jan 12

a127scamera says...

jayman wrote:
i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people!
????? whats it got to do with economic slowdown! twonk or disgruntled ex-Visteon employee?

More people employed on flightdeck and in airport for these flights and a good thing for Ford...cheaper than employees using commercial flights and better use of their time as only need one hour pre boarding.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people![/p][/quote]????? whats it got to do with economic slowdown! twonk or disgruntled ex-Visteon employee? More people employed on flightdeck and in airport for these flights and a good thing for Ford...cheaper than employees using commercial flights and better use of their time as only need one hour pre boarding. a127scamera

12:30pm Mon 9 Jan 12

jayman says...

a127scamera wrote:
jayman wrote:
i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people!
????? whats it got to do with economic slowdown! twonk or disgruntled ex-Visteon employee?

More people employed on flightdeck and in airport for these flights and a good thing for Ford...cheaper than employees using commercial flights and better use of their time as only need one hour pre boarding.
as the article above reads

German airline Germania is scheduled to take over the route in the summer.

British jobs? sounds more like a fly out and return from Germany!
[quote][p][bold]a127scamera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people![/p][/quote]????? whats it got to do with economic slowdown! twonk or disgruntled ex-Visteon employee? More people employed on flightdeck and in airport for these flights and a good thing for Ford...cheaper than employees using commercial flights and better use of their time as only need one hour pre boarding.[/p][/quote]as the article above reads German airline Germania is scheduled to take over the route in the summer. British jobs? sounds more like a fly out and return from Germany! jayman

1:24pm Mon 9 Jan 12

Bosniavet says...

jayman wrote:
a127scamera wrote:
jayman wrote: i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people!
????? whats it got to do with economic slowdown! twonk or disgruntled ex-Visteon employee? More people employed on flightdeck and in airport for these flights and a good thing for Ford...cheaper than employees using commercial flights and better use of their time as only need one hour pre boarding.
as the article above reads German airline Germania is scheduled to take over the route in the summer. British jobs? sounds more like a fly out and return from Germany!
Jayman, your original post clearly says "i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants" as the direct quote I have included in my post shows. At no point did you comment on the jobs at the airport or for the carrier involved, merely on the risk to Ford production & jobs within the UK.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]a127scamera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people![/p][/quote]????? whats it got to do with economic slowdown! twonk or disgruntled ex-Visteon employee? More people employed on flightdeck and in airport for these flights and a good thing for Ford...cheaper than employees using commercial flights and better use of their time as only need one hour pre boarding.[/p][/quote]as the article above reads German airline Germania is scheduled to take over the route in the summer. British jobs? sounds more like a fly out and return from Germany![/p][/quote]Jayman, your original post clearly says "i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants" as the direct quote I have included in my post shows. At no point did you comment on the jobs at the airport or for the carrier involved, merely on the risk to Ford production & jobs within the UK. Bosniavet

1:28pm Mon 9 Jan 12

BASILBRUSH says...

Give up Jayman. You used to come across as someone that at least made some effort to research the facts, even if you twisted them to suit your argument. Now you just come across as a bitter NIMBY trying to fight a lost battle.

After the flights stopped at Southend, Ford Employees used another German carrier from Stansted, they are now returning to Southend.
This is good for Southend and again proves it has a good future ahead.
Give up Jayman. You used to come across as someone that at least made some effort to research the facts, even if you twisted them to suit your argument. Now you just come across as a bitter NIMBY trying to fight a lost battle. After the flights stopped at Southend, Ford Employees used another German carrier from Stansted, they are now returning to Southend. This is good for Southend and again proves it has a good future ahead. BASILBRUSH

2:32pm Mon 9 Jan 12

Nebs says...

On the subject of employment, any news about the 7,000 jobs yet?
On the subject of employment, any news about the 7,000 jobs yet? Nebs

2:47pm Mon 9 Jan 12

jayman says...

so to recap then.. engineering and management talent is going to be air ferried to Germany and other locations across Europe. the flight will be operated by a German airline.. what research do I need to conduct. my question is 'why is this a good news story for the local/national economy?' or is it just a BS PR boost for a controversial airport that has failed to deliver the things promised. To be of economic benefit to a densely populated town nearby! any independent economic data yet? I doubt whether SBC has bothered to commission a report..
so to recap then.. engineering and management talent is going to be air ferried to Germany and other locations across Europe. the flight will be operated by a German airline.. what research do I need to conduct. my question is 'why is this a good news story for the local/national economy?' or is it just a BS PR boost for a controversial airport that has failed to deliver the things promised. To be of economic benefit to a densely populated town nearby! any independent economic data yet? I doubt whether SBC has bothered to commission a report.. jayman

3:05pm Mon 9 Jan 12

DannyK86 says...

jayman wrote:
so to recap then.. engineering and management talent is going to be air ferried to Germany and other locations across Europe. the flight will be operated by a German airline.. what research do I need to conduct. my question is 'why is this a good news story for the local/national economy?' or is it just a BS PR boost for a controversial airport that has failed to deliver the things promised. To be of economic benefit to a densely populated town nearby! any independent economic data yet? I doubt whether SBC has bothered to commission a report..
Were you born stupid, or did you pick it up along the way? Ford employees have ALWAYS been ferried across Europe. This happened at Southend and other UK airports in the past, and I'd wager very confidently that there are other Ford flights between the other Europe plants (e.g. Germany to Romania).

It's like trying to speak to a pot plant or something...
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: so to recap then.. engineering and management talent is going to be air ferried to Germany and other locations across Europe. the flight will be operated by a German airline.. what research do I need to conduct. my question is 'why is this a good news story for the local/national economy?' or is it just a BS PR boost for a controversial airport that has failed to deliver the things promised. To be of economic benefit to a densely populated town nearby! any independent economic data yet? I doubt whether SBC has bothered to commission a report..[/p][/quote]Were you born stupid, or did you pick it up along the way? Ford employees have ALWAYS been ferried across Europe. This happened at Southend and other UK airports in the past, and I'd wager very confidently that there are other Ford flights between the other Europe plants (e.g. Germany to Romania). It's like trying to speak to a pot plant or something... DannyK86

3:27pm Mon 9 Jan 12

Max Impact says...

jayman wrote:
so to recap then.. engineering and management talent is going to be air ferried to Germany and other locations across Europe. the flight will be operated by a German airline.. what research do I need to conduct. my question is 'why is this a good news story for the local/national economy?' or is it just a BS PR boost for a controversial airport that has failed to deliver the things promised. To be of economic benefit to a densely populated town nearby! any independent economic data yet? I doubt whether SBC has bothered to commission a report..
jayman

Just to point out that once Germania take over they will have to employ people at Southend to check passengers in, or did you not think of that! Germania will also have to have a contract with a Southend based maintenance firm to carry out any line work that the aircraft might need so it will help local people keep and possibly find work.

You seem to have very little REAL knowledge of the aeronautical industry only what you read on line, so do tell have you actually ever worked in the civilian aerospace industry?

These flights have been going on for decades there are other flights from Germany to other Ford plants throughout Europe.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: so to recap then.. engineering and management talent is going to be air ferried to Germany and other locations across Europe. the flight will be operated by a German airline.. what research do I need to conduct. my question is 'why is this a good news story for the local/national economy?' or is it just a BS PR boost for a controversial airport that has failed to deliver the things promised. To be of economic benefit to a densely populated town nearby! any independent economic data yet? I doubt whether SBC has bothered to commission a report..[/p][/quote]jayman Just to point out that once Germania take over they will have to employ people at Southend to check passengers in, or did you not think of that! Germania will also have to have a contract with a Southend based maintenance firm to carry out any line work that the aircraft might need so it will help local people keep and possibly find work. You seem to have very little REAL knowledge of the aeronautical industry only what you read on line, so do tell have you actually ever worked in the civilian aerospace industry? These flights have been going on for decades there are other flights from Germany to other Ford plants throughout Europe. Max Impact

4:03pm Mon 9 Jan 12

southendshrimper says...

Correct score update:- Southend Airport 8 Nimbys & Jayman 0. Time to bring in the airports new signing easyjet.
Correct score update:- Southend Airport 8 Nimbys & Jayman 0. Time to bring in the airports new signing easyjet. southendshrimper

5:00pm Mon 9 Jan 12

r6keith says...

jayman wrote:
i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people!
Ford main European plant and base is in Colonge they have been flying their employees from and to there for over 20 years.I know Ive been on it, with people travelling in both directions , its got nothing to do with economys its bussiness ! It is a good thing overall because someone local has to check them in, security search them then we sell them coffee all local employees !
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people![/p][/quote]Ford main European plant and base is in Colonge they have been flying their employees from and to there for over 20 years.I know Ive been on it, with people travelling in both directions , its got nothing to do with economys its bussiness ! It is a good thing overall because someone local has to check them in, security search them then we sell them coffee all local employees ! r6keith

5:04pm Mon 9 Jan 12

r6keith says...

Nebs wrote:
On the subject of employment, any news about the 7,000 jobs yet?
Thats less than 7000 now plenty of jobs been taken up at the airport ready for Easy Jet in April !
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: On the subject of employment, any news about the 7,000 jobs yet?[/p][/quote]Thats less than 7000 now plenty of jobs been taken up at the airport ready for Easy Jet in April ! r6keith

5:10pm Mon 9 Jan 12

r6keith says...

r6keith wrote:
Nebs wrote: On the subject of employment, any news about the 7,000 jobs yet?
Thats less than 7000 now plenty of jobs been taken up at the airport ready for Easy Jet in April !
My company have just secured a contract for maintenance purely because of the airport and what is happening there this will involve more jobs.
[quote][p][bold]r6keith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: On the subject of employment, any news about the 7,000 jobs yet?[/p][/quote]Thats less than 7000 now plenty of jobs been taken up at the airport ready for Easy Jet in April ![/p][/quote]My company have just secured a contract for maintenance purely because of the airport and what is happening there this will involve more jobs. r6keith

5:31pm Mon 9 Jan 12

Nebs says...

r6keith wrote:
r6keith wrote:
Nebs wrote: On the subject of employment, any news about the 7,000 jobs yet?
Thats less than 7000 now plenty of jobs been taken up at the airport ready for Easy Jet in April !
My company have just secured a contract for maintenance purely because of the airport and what is happening there this will involve more jobs.
Great, I'd guess we were up to about 1,000 already, but was hoping Basil or Max would give us the actual up to date figures.
[quote][p][bold]r6keith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]r6keith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: On the subject of employment, any news about the 7,000 jobs yet?[/p][/quote]Thats less than 7000 now plenty of jobs been taken up at the airport ready for Easy Jet in April ![/p][/quote]My company have just secured a contract for maintenance purely because of the airport and what is happening there this will involve more jobs.[/p][/quote]Great, I'd guess we were up to about 1,000 already, but was hoping Basil or Max would give us the actual up to date figures. Nebs

5:31pm Mon 9 Jan 12

jayman says...

Max Impact wrote:
jayman wrote:
so to recap then.. engineering and management talent is going to be air ferried to Germany and other locations across Europe. the flight will be operated by a German airline.. what research do I need to conduct. my question is 'why is this a good news story for the local/national economy?' or is it just a BS PR boost for a controversial airport that has failed to deliver the things promised. To be of economic benefit to a densely populated town nearby! any independent economic data yet? I doubt whether SBC has bothered to commission a report..
jayman

Just to point out that once Germania take over they will have to employ people at Southend to check passengers in, or did you not think of that! Germania will also have to have a contract with a Southend based maintenance firm to carry out any line work that the aircraft might need so it will help local people keep and possibly find work.

You seem to have very little REAL knowledge of the aeronautical industry only what you read on line, so do tell have you actually ever worked in the civilian aerospace industry?

These flights have been going on for decades there are other flights from Germany to other Ford plants throughout Europe.
wow.. thats a shot in the dark. it more of a charter flight for a company. the check in process can consist of a trestle table on the tarmac with someone by it to check ID. you wont need boarding passes as such because its a corporate charter flight.. perhaps you are mistaking customs control ie passports, with booking in ie ford id and a thrower for the baggage? your right about a repair contract. but that is a bit wild to say that it will involve any more jobs. should a plane develop a fault (if)
[quote][p][bold]Max Impact[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: so to recap then.. engineering and management talent is going to be air ferried to Germany and other locations across Europe. the flight will be operated by a German airline.. what research do I need to conduct. my question is 'why is this a good news story for the local/national economy?' or is it just a BS PR boost for a controversial airport that has failed to deliver the things promised. To be of economic benefit to a densely populated town nearby! any independent economic data yet? I doubt whether SBC has bothered to commission a report..[/p][/quote]jayman Just to point out that once Germania take over they will have to employ people at Southend to check passengers in, or did you not think of that! Germania will also have to have a contract with a Southend based maintenance firm to carry out any line work that the aircraft might need so it will help local people keep and possibly find work. You seem to have very little REAL knowledge of the aeronautical industry only what you read on line, so do tell have you actually ever worked in the civilian aerospace industry? These flights have been going on for decades there are other flights from Germany to other Ford plants throughout Europe.[/p][/quote]wow.. thats a shot in the dark. it more of a charter flight for a company. the check in process can consist of a trestle table on the tarmac with someone by it to check ID. you wont need boarding passes as such because its a corporate charter flight.. perhaps you are mistaking customs control ie passports, with booking in ie ford id and a thrower for the baggage? your right about a repair contract. but that is a bit wild to say that it will involve any more jobs. should a plane develop a fault (if) jayman

5:34pm Mon 9 Jan 12

al coniston says...

jayman wrote:
so to recap then.. engineering and management talent is going to be air ferried to Germany and other locations across Europe. the flight will be operated by a German airline.. what research do I need to conduct. my question is 'why is this a good news story for the local/national economy?' or is it just a BS PR boost for a controversial airport that has failed to deliver the things promised. To be of economic benefit to a densely populated town nearby! any independent economic data yet? I doubt whether SBC has bothered to commission a report..
and there would be a number of English people without jobs if they didn't travel to Germany to work meaning more unhappiness and burden on our own economy - try looking at the bigger picture rather than your blinkered one ! It's win/win.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: so to recap then.. engineering and management talent is going to be air ferried to Germany and other locations across Europe. the flight will be operated by a German airline.. what research do I need to conduct. my question is 'why is this a good news story for the local/national economy?' or is it just a BS PR boost for a controversial airport that has failed to deliver the things promised. To be of economic benefit to a densely populated town nearby! any independent economic data yet? I doubt whether SBC has bothered to commission a report..[/p][/quote]and there would be a number of English people without jobs if they didn't travel to Germany to work meaning more unhappiness and burden on our own economy - try looking at the bigger picture rather than your blinkered one ! It's win/win. al coniston

5:53pm Mon 9 Jan 12

geezer, innit says...

Nebs wrote:
On the subject of employment, any news about the 7,000 jobs yet?
yes, no English workers want to get out of bed for the money they are offering in hese jobs, they'd rather stay at home on their fat arrises and play with their x-boxes, watch their monster flat screen tv's, count the benefit shekels rolling in and ferry their fat wives and fat kids about to the supermarket for more pop and crisps while moaning about how all the jobs go to foreigners...


(this post brought to you by the tongue in cheek post corporation)
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: On the subject of employment, any news about the 7,000 jobs yet?[/p][/quote]yes, no English workers want to get out of bed for the money they are offering in hese jobs, they'd rather stay at home on their fat arrises and play with their x-boxes, watch their monster flat screen tv's, count the benefit shekels rolling in and ferry their fat wives and fat kids about to the supermarket for more pop and crisps while moaning about how all the jobs go to foreigners... (this post brought to you by the tongue in cheek post corporation) geezer, innit

6:29pm Mon 9 Jan 12

BASILBRUSH says...

Nebs wrote:
r6keith wrote:
r6keith wrote:
Nebs wrote: On the subject of employment, any news about the 7,000 jobs yet?
Thats less than 7000 now plenty of jobs been taken up at the airport ready for Easy Jet in April !
My company have just secured a contract for maintenance purely because of the airport and what is happening there this will involve more jobs.
Great, I'd guess we were up to about 1,000 already, but was hoping Basil or Max would give us the actual up to date figures.
I've no idea. You'd have to ask the Airport .
I do know that there is alot more recruitment still to come, but still waiting to hear about the industrial development like everyone else.
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]r6keith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]r6keith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: On the subject of employment, any news about the 7,000 jobs yet?[/p][/quote]Thats less than 7000 now plenty of jobs been taken up at the airport ready for Easy Jet in April ![/p][/quote]My company have just secured a contract for maintenance purely because of the airport and what is happening there this will involve more jobs.[/p][/quote]Great, I'd guess we were up to about 1,000 already, but was hoping Basil or Max would give us the actual up to date figures.[/p][/quote]I've no idea. You'd have to ask the Airport . I do know that there is alot more recruitment still to come, but still waiting to hear about the industrial development like everyone else. BASILBRUSH

7:23pm Mon 9 Jan 12

myhumbleopinion says...

jayman wrote:
Max Impact wrote:
jayman wrote:
so to recap then.. engineering and management talent is going to be air ferried to Germany and other locations across Europe. the flight will be operated by a German airline.. what research do I need to conduct. my question is 'why is this a good news story for the local/national economy?' or is it just a BS PR boost for a controversial airport that has failed to deliver the things promised. To be of economic benefit to a densely populated town nearby! any independent economic data yet? I doubt whether SBC has bothered to commission a report..
jayman

Just to point out that once Germania take over they will have to employ people at Southend to check passengers in, or did you not think of that! Germania will also have to have a contract with a Southend based maintenance firm to carry out any line work that the aircraft might need so it will help local people keep and possibly find work.

You seem to have very little REAL knowledge of the aeronautical industry only what you read on line, so do tell have you actually ever worked in the civilian aerospace industry?

These flights have been going on for decades there are other flights from Germany to other Ford plants throughout Europe.
wow.. thats a shot in the dark. it more of a charter flight for a company. the check in process can consist of a trestle table on the tarmac with someone by it to check ID. you wont need boarding passes as such because its a corporate charter flight.. perhaps you are mistaking customs control ie passports, with booking in ie ford id and a thrower for the baggage? your right about a repair contract. but that is a bit wild to say that it will involve any more jobs. should a plane develop a fault (if)
Jayman - wrong again! Although it is a private charter, the flight is still subjected to full check in and security procedures. Just ask the employees at the airport who were there for it this morning. I hear Cafe Stobart was doing roaring trade! Just because you can;t book a seat on it (yet) doesn't mean all of the above goes out the window!

The aircraft operator will be paying a fortune to the airport in the form of landing fees, passenger security and handling charges.

Ford workers (both English and foreign) have been shuttled to and from Essex and Germany and Romania for years.

You are wrong once again Jayman, please stop lying, I;d much rather watch you moan about the aircraft disturbing you and your cat this morning!
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Impact[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: so to recap then.. engineering and management talent is going to be air ferried to Germany and other locations across Europe. the flight will be operated by a German airline.. what research do I need to conduct. my question is 'why is this a good news story for the local/national economy?' or is it just a BS PR boost for a controversial airport that has failed to deliver the things promised. To be of economic benefit to a densely populated town nearby! any independent economic data yet? I doubt whether SBC has bothered to commission a report..[/p][/quote]jayman Just to point out that once Germania take over they will have to employ people at Southend to check passengers in, or did you not think of that! Germania will also have to have a contract with a Southend based maintenance firm to carry out any line work that the aircraft might need so it will help local people keep and possibly find work. You seem to have very little REAL knowledge of the aeronautical industry only what you read on line, so do tell have you actually ever worked in the civilian aerospace industry? These flights have been going on for decades there are other flights from Germany to other Ford plants throughout Europe.[/p][/quote]wow.. thats a shot in the dark. it more of a charter flight for a company. the check in process can consist of a trestle table on the tarmac with someone by it to check ID. you wont need boarding passes as such because its a corporate charter flight.. perhaps you are mistaking customs control ie passports, with booking in ie ford id and a thrower for the baggage? your right about a repair contract. but that is a bit wild to say that it will involve any more jobs. should a plane develop a fault (if)[/p][/quote]Jayman - wrong again! Although it is a private charter, the flight is still subjected to full check in and security procedures. Just ask the employees at the airport who were there for it this morning. I hear Cafe Stobart was doing roaring trade! Just because you can;t book a seat on it (yet) doesn't mean all of the above goes out the window! The aircraft operator will be paying a fortune to the airport in the form of landing fees, passenger security and handling charges. Ford workers (both English and foreign) have been shuttled to and from Essex and Germany and Romania for years. You are wrong once again Jayman, please stop lying, I;d much rather watch you moan about the aircraft disturbing you and your cat this morning! myhumbleopinion

9:34pm Mon 9 Jan 12

Max Impact says...

myhumbleopinion wrote:
jayman wrote:
Max Impact wrote:
jayman wrote: so to recap then.. engineering and management talent is going to be air ferried to Germany and other locations across Europe. the flight will be operated by a German airline.. what research do I need to conduct. my question is 'why is this a good news story for the local/national economy?' or is it just a BS PR boost for a controversial airport that has failed to deliver the things promised. To be of economic benefit to a densely populated town nearby! any independent economic data yet? I doubt whether SBC has bothered to commission a report..
jayman Just to point out that once Germania take over they will have to employ people at Southend to check passengers in, or did you not think of that! Germania will also have to have a contract with a Southend based maintenance firm to carry out any line work that the aircraft might need so it will help local people keep and possibly find work. You seem to have very little REAL knowledge of the aeronautical industry only what you read on line, so do tell have you actually ever worked in the civilian aerospace industry? These flights have been going on for decades there are other flights from Germany to other Ford plants throughout Europe.
wow.. thats a shot in the dark. it more of a charter flight for a company. the check in process can consist of a trestle table on the tarmac with someone by it to check ID. you wont need boarding passes as such because its a corporate charter flight.. perhaps you are mistaking customs control ie passports, with booking in ie ford id and a thrower for the baggage? your right about a repair contract. but that is a bit wild to say that it will involve any more jobs. should a plane develop a fault (if)
Jayman - wrong again! Although it is a private charter, the flight is still subjected to full check in and security procedures. Just ask the employees at the airport who were there for it this morning. I hear Cafe Stobart was doing roaring trade! Just because you can;t book a seat on it (yet) doesn't mean all of the above goes out the window! The aircraft operator will be paying a fortune to the airport in the form of landing fees, passenger security and handling charges. Ford workers (both English and foreign) have been shuttled to and from Essex and Germany and Romania for years. You are wrong once again Jayman, please stop lying, I;d much rather watch you moan about the aircraft disturbing you and your cat this morning!
Spot on,

Jayman has no knowlage of the airline world airport security just what he thinks he knows which is wrong...!

Jayman a table on the apron would not be looked upon very well by the CAA they would have the airports guts for garters!

As for the 7000 jobs it has always been said they are conditional on

1. All the airport works being completed and operational.

2. The economic climate being suitable to have a take up rate to make the project feasible.

If they were built now you lot in the small anti camp would moan about the units being left empty and becoming a target for vandals.

Would you build them now knowing full well that there is very little chance of getting a sufficient number rented out or sold to make the project viable.
[quote][p][bold]myhumbleopinion[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Impact[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: so to recap then.. engineering and management talent is going to be air ferried to Germany and other locations across Europe. the flight will be operated by a German airline.. what research do I need to conduct. my question is 'why is this a good news story for the local/national economy?' or is it just a BS PR boost for a controversial airport that has failed to deliver the things promised. To be of economic benefit to a densely populated town nearby! any independent economic data yet? I doubt whether SBC has bothered to commission a report..[/p][/quote]jayman Just to point out that once Germania take over they will have to employ people at Southend to check passengers in, or did you not think of that! Germania will also have to have a contract with a Southend based maintenance firm to carry out any line work that the aircraft might need so it will help local people keep and possibly find work. You seem to have very little REAL knowledge of the aeronautical industry only what you read on line, so do tell have you actually ever worked in the civilian aerospace industry? These flights have been going on for decades there are other flights from Germany to other Ford plants throughout Europe.[/p][/quote]wow.. thats a shot in the dark. it more of a charter flight for a company. the check in process can consist of a trestle table on the tarmac with someone by it to check ID. you wont need boarding passes as such because its a corporate charter flight.. perhaps you are mistaking customs control ie passports, with booking in ie ford id and a thrower for the baggage? your right about a repair contract. but that is a bit wild to say that it will involve any more jobs. should a plane develop a fault (if)[/p][/quote]Jayman - wrong again! Although it is a private charter, the flight is still subjected to full check in and security procedures. Just ask the employees at the airport who were there for it this morning. I hear Cafe Stobart was doing roaring trade! Just because you can;t book a seat on it (yet) doesn't mean all of the above goes out the window! The aircraft operator will be paying a fortune to the airport in the form of landing fees, passenger security and handling charges. Ford workers (both English and foreign) have been shuttled to and from Essex and Germany and Romania for years. You are wrong once again Jayman, please stop lying, I;d much rather watch you moan about the aircraft disturbing you and your cat this morning![/p][/quote]Spot on, Jayman has no knowlage of the airline world airport security just what he thinks he knows which is wrong...! Jayman a table on the apron would not be looked upon very well by the CAA they would have the airports guts for garters! As for the 7000 jobs it has always been said they are conditional on 1. All the airport works being completed and operational. 2. The economic climate being suitable to have a take up rate to make the project feasible. If they were built now you lot in the small anti camp would moan about the units being left empty and becoming a target for vandals. Would you build them now knowing full well that there is very little chance of getting a sufficient number rented out or sold to make the project viable. Max Impact

9:45pm Mon 9 Jan 12

siddymint says...

Ford used to operate 4 flights a day sometimes 6 or 8 depending on requiremnets all the flights were full the passengers bought coffee sandwiches newspapers and used local taxis and stayed in local hotel when the hotels didn't have any trade.
Many from europe stayed over nigth in Southend spending money in local shops etc. Ford air is the biggest private airline in the world .
A side note many residents used to tell the time by the Ford flights and if they were early or late compliants would be recieved at the airport.
Ford employees have been flying around europe for years .
Apperantly Ford air will be flying to turkey from Southend soon
Ford used to operate 4 flights a day sometimes 6 or 8 depending on requiremnets all the flights were full the passengers bought coffee sandwiches newspapers and used local taxis and stayed in local hotel when the hotels didn't have any trade. Many from europe stayed over nigth in Southend spending money in local shops etc. Ford air is the biggest private airline in the world . A side note many residents used to tell the time by the Ford flights and if they were early or late compliants would be recieved at the airport. Ford employees have been flying around europe for years . Apperantly Ford air will be flying to turkey from Southend soon siddymint

10:49pm Mon 9 Jan 12

Thames Gateway says...

Turkey? Now why does that remind me of jayman. Another one for him to 'Cry-over' (geddit!)

Love his vision of aviation - trestle table on the apron - methinks he should become an aviation consultant with his expertise like that, I'm sure he would be snapped up! Even the tabloids do about 100 times more research than him.
Turkey? Now why does that remind me of jayman. Another one for him to 'Cry-over' (geddit!) Love his vision of aviation - trestle table on the apron - methinks he should become an aviation consultant with his expertise like that, I'm sure he would be snapped up! Even the tabloids do about 100 times more research than him. Thames Gateway

8:46am Tue 10 Jan 12

Norfolk says...

Good idea Thames Gateway, he could provide a sort of satirical cabaret between presentations. The clients would love it.
Good idea Thames Gateway, he could provide a sort of satirical cabaret between presentations. The clients would love it. Norfolk

5:00pm Tue 10 Jan 12

Bester says...

My dad was an employee at Ford and I remember him travelling to mainland Europe as early as 1982 (using overseas airlines). He remained a Ford employee in the UK until he retired. Getting their employees to commute to Europe is something that Ford has been doing for at least 3 decades. I don't understand why some people think this process somehow suddenly poses a threat to the UK economy.
My dad was an employee at Ford and I remember him travelling to mainland Europe as early as 1982 (using overseas airlines). He remained a Ford employee in the UK until he retired. Getting their employees to commute to Europe is something that Ford has been doing for at least 3 decades. I don't understand why some people think this process somehow suddenly poses a threat to the UK economy. Bester

6:10pm Tue 10 Jan 12

Max Impact says...

Through fear of being accused by somebody of being an airport/council stooge.


A certain somebody who frequents this website and posts totally inaccurate and hypocritical messages denouncing Southend Airport whilst backing other airports will not listen to what any pro airport supporter has to say, they will take what you have posted twist it and then post it as their own “fact” you will probably see something along the lines of... The flights have devastated the UK economy bringing it to its knees and destroying jobs and making billions unemployed.


Nice to see somebody else knows the real facts, thanks for posting.

My Great Grandad worked for Ford, after leaving the RAF after the Second World War, he was a Westland Whirlwind pilot got his log books and part of his aircraft in the display unit at home, its the dataplate and a section of the skin of the aircraft with the registration on, aparently it one of the few remaining fragments left of the type, when he went to Ford's he was at Dagenham for a few years before moving on to R&D.
Through fear of being accused by somebody of being an airport/council stooge. A certain somebody who frequents this website and posts totally inaccurate and hypocritical messages denouncing Southend Airport whilst backing other airports will not listen to what any pro airport supporter has to say, they will take what you have posted twist it and then post it as their own “fact” you will probably see something along the lines of... The flights have devastated the UK economy bringing it to its knees and destroying jobs and making billions unemployed. Nice to see somebody else knows the real facts, thanks for posting. My Great Grandad worked for Ford, after leaving the RAF after the Second World War, he was a Westland Whirlwind pilot got his log books and part of his aircraft in the display unit at home, its the dataplate and a section of the skin of the aircraft with the registration on, aparently it one of the few remaining fragments left of the type, when he went to Ford's he was at Dagenham for a few years before moving on to R&D. Max Impact

6:30pm Tue 10 Jan 12

southendshrimper says...

Why can't some people see that a bigger & better airport can only be good for Southend. If these people don't want an airport then dig a hole & put your head in it. If not put up & shut up. Come on Southend Airport keep growing.


P.S. Flights to Scotland please.
Why can't some people see that a bigger & better airport can only be good for Southend. If these people don't want an airport then dig a hole & put your head in it. If not put up & shut up. Come on Southend Airport keep growing. P.S. Flights to Scotland please. southendshrimper

6:55pm Tue 10 Jan 12

Nebs says...

southendshrimper wrote:
Why can't some people see that a bigger & better airport can only be good for Southend. If these people don't want an airport then dig a hole & put your head in it. If not put up & shut up. Come on Southend Airport keep growing.


P.S. Flights to Scotland please.
Or a bigger and better airport in the estuary.
[quote][p][bold]southendshrimper[/bold] wrote: Why can't some people see that a bigger & better airport can only be good for Southend. If these people don't want an airport then dig a hole & put your head in it. If not put up & shut up. Come on Southend Airport keep growing. P.S. Flights to Scotland please.[/p][/quote]Or a bigger and better airport in the estuary. Nebs

11:24pm Tue 10 Jan 12

Max Impact says...

Nebs wrote:
southendshrimper wrote:
Why can't some people see that a bigger & better airport can only be good for Southend. If these people don't want an airport then dig a hole & put your head in it. If not put up & shut up. Come on Southend Airport keep growing.


P.S. Flights to Scotland please.
Or a bigger and better airport in the estuary.
Which will have an a far greater risk of bird strikes, devistate the fishing and close the Southen waterfron to any events such as the airshow, Thames Barge Race, yachting contest increasing the noise in Southend to a 24hour 365days a year jet drone, and show that Nebs is as much as a hypocrite as his best rectom buddy jayman.

nebs and jayman the same person?
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southendshrimper[/bold] wrote: Why can't some people see that a bigger & better airport can only be good for Southend. If these people don't want an airport then dig a hole & put your head in it. If not put up & shut up. Come on Southend Airport keep growing. P.S. Flights to Scotland please.[/p][/quote]Or a bigger and better airport in the estuary.[/p][/quote]Which will have an a far greater risk of bird strikes, devistate the fishing and close the Southen waterfron to any events such as the airshow, Thames Barge Race, yachting contest increasing the noise in Southend to a 24hour 365days a year jet drone, and show that Nebs is as much as a hypocrite as his best rectom buddy jayman. nebs and jayman the same person? Max Impact

8:30am Wed 11 Jan 12

tophatdt says...

and there was me thinking Nebs was a female name! The airport in the estuary will NEVER happen. It would close London-City and Southend airports, cause unbelievable disruption and is far too expensive. Let's not debate this Red Herring again.
and there was me thinking Nebs was a female name! The airport in the estuary will NEVER happen. It would close London-City and Southend airports, cause unbelievable disruption and is far too expensive. Let's not debate this Red Herring again. tophatdt

12:01pm Wed 11 Jan 12

Nebs says...

Max Impact wrote:
Nebs wrote:
southendshrimper wrote:
Why can't some people see that a bigger & better airport can only be good for Southend. If these people don't want an airport then dig a hole & put your head in it. If not put up & shut up. Come on Southend Airport keep growing.


P.S. Flights to Scotland please.
Or a bigger and better airport in the estuary.
Which will have an a far greater risk of bird strikes, devistate the fishing and close the Southen waterfron to any events such as the airshow, Thames Barge Race, yachting contest increasing the noise in Southend to a 24hour 365days a year jet drone, and show that Nebs is as much as a hypocrite as his best rectom buddy jayman.

nebs and jayman the same person?
I take offence at that. Why am I a hypocrite. Search the archive and you will see that I am not anti airport, I am anti both sides when all they do is spin the facts. I look forward to the new jobs the airport will bring. It it flies to places that I want to go to then I will use it. That doesn't stop me wanting even more jobs and even more choice of flights from a bigger airport that will be easier to get to than the current offerings.
[quote][p][bold]Max Impact[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southendshrimper[/bold] wrote: Why can't some people see that a bigger & better airport can only be good for Southend. If these people don't want an airport then dig a hole & put your head in it. If not put up & shut up. Come on Southend Airport keep growing. P.S. Flights to Scotland please.[/p][/quote]Or a bigger and better airport in the estuary.[/p][/quote]Which will have an a far greater risk of bird strikes, devistate the fishing and close the Southen waterfron to any events such as the airshow, Thames Barge Race, yachting contest increasing the noise in Southend to a 24hour 365days a year jet drone, and show that Nebs is as much as a hypocrite as his best rectom buddy jayman. nebs and jayman the same person?[/p][/quote]I take offence at that. Why am I a hypocrite. Search the archive and you will see that I am not anti airport, I am anti both sides when all they do is spin the facts. I look forward to the new jobs the airport will bring. It it flies to places that I want to go to then I will use it. That doesn't stop me wanting even more jobs and even more choice of flights from a bigger airport that will be easier to get to than the current offerings. Nebs

12:48pm Wed 11 Jan 12

tophatdt says...

you cant have your bread buttered both sides Nebs!
you cant have your bread buttered both sides Nebs! tophatdt

12:50pm Wed 11 Jan 12

BASILBRUSH says...

For what its worth I wouldnt of put Nebs in either camp and not surprised that he has taken offence.
For what its worth I wouldnt of put Nebs in either camp and not surprised that he has taken offence. BASILBRUSH

8:41pm Wed 11 Jan 12

supershrimper says...

jayman wrote:
i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people!
What you don't realise, is that these employees still go to Germany, they just have to drive. This is convenient for Ford, as well as profitable for Jet2 and Southend Airport - THAT is the WHOLE picture!

I am beginning to think that you are on the side of SAEN!!
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people![/p][/quote]What you don't realise, is that these employees still go to Germany, they just have to drive. This is convenient for Ford, as well as profitable for Jet2 and Southend Airport - THAT is the WHOLE picture! I am beginning to think that you are on the side of SAEN!! supershrimper

8:49pm Wed 11 Jan 12

supershrimper says...

jayman wrote:
i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people!
To look at the wider picture, the employees flying out usually drive (thus they go there anyway), so it is more convenient for Ford, as well as profitable for both Jet2 and Southend Airport.

You are the naïve one.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people![/p][/quote]To look at the wider picture, the employees flying out usually drive (thus they go there anyway), so it is more convenient for Ford, as well as profitable for both Jet2 and Southend Airport. You are the naïve one. supershrimper

10:09pm Wed 11 Jan 12

APR says...

I know things have changed a lot over the years, but it "used" to be the case, that a Volvo built in Sweden, had more British parts on it than a Ford.
I know things have changed a lot over the years, but it "used" to be the case, that a Volvo built in Sweden, had more British parts on it than a Ford. APR

6:30pm Thu 12 Jan 12

Max Impact says...

What will people say when...

4 scheduled A319/737 departures take off between 6:30 and 7:30am!
What will people say when... 4 scheduled A319/737 departures take off between 6:30 and 7:30am! Max Impact

7:37pm Thu 12 Jan 12

southendshrimper says...

Max Impact wrote:
What will people say when... 4 scheduled A319/737 departures take off between 6:30 and 7:30am!
My poor little doggie went running & put his paws over his ears, or all the windows in my house were rattling I thought they were going to fall out. I went running out into the street thinking my house was going to be hit by a plane.
[quote][p][bold]Max Impact[/bold] wrote: What will people say when... 4 scheduled A319/737 departures take off between 6:30 and 7:30am![/p][/quote]My poor little doggie went running & put his paws over his ears, or all the windows in my house were rattling I thought they were going to fall out. I went running out into the street thinking my house was going to be hit by a plane. southendshrimper

9:35am Fri 13 Jan 12

openspace says...

jayman wrote:
i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people!
Jayman, check your facts, ( for a change )
Ford flights to Cologne, Valencia and other destinations on occasion took place for many years prior to 2000, all flights from Stansted, one on a daily basis. I know as I flew on these flights many times, flights were always full and about 120 people on each flight, ( both ways !!!!!! ).
SO, this is not something new that indicates a loss of Ford jobs in this country, just resuming something that happened for many years.

PS Do you ever stop moaning, get a life
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people![/p][/quote]Jayman, check your facts, ( for a change ) Ford flights to Cologne, Valencia and other destinations on occasion took place for many years prior to 2000, all flights from Stansted, one on a daily basis. I know as I flew on these flights many times, flights were always full and about 120 people on each flight, ( both ways !!!!!! ). SO, this is not something new that indicates a loss of Ford jobs in this country, just resuming something that happened for many years. PS Do you ever stop moaning, get a life openspace

9:47am Fri 13 Jan 12

openspace says...

openspace wrote:
jayman wrote:
i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people!
Jayman, check your facts, ( for a change )
Ford flights to Cologne, Valencia and other destinations on occasion took place for many years prior to 2000, all flights from Stansted, one on a daily basis. I know as I flew on these flights many times, flights were always full and about 120 people on each flight, ( both ways !!!!!! ).
SO, this is not something new that indicates a loss of Ford jobs in this country, just resuming something that happened for many years.

PS Do you ever stop moaning, get a life
Forgot to mention that we used to arrive early for the flights, buy coffee, tea or even breakfast, ( jobs needed there) and check in with separate staff to the main terminal.
We used to buy duty free on the plane. things that we would probably not have purchased otherwise, ( revenue raised !! ). Also planes were maintained in the UK, ( more jobs )
Many people were ferried to the airport and back from Dagenham and Dunton by coach, ( saving car fuel and employing a coach comopany and driver !!!).

Every flight of this type from the airport means MORE JOBS !!!!
[quote][p][bold]openspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: i suppose this means that the ford plant production in the UK will decrease if they need to fly employees to the Germany plants. yet more signs of UK economic slow down. its cheaper to import to the UK then export to Europe. only the fools on here could see this as a good thing. Think of the wider picture people![/p][/quote]Jayman, check your facts, ( for a change ) Ford flights to Cologne, Valencia and other destinations on occasion took place for many years prior to 2000, all flights from Stansted, one on a daily basis. I know as I flew on these flights many times, flights were always full and about 120 people on each flight, ( both ways !!!!!! ). SO, this is not something new that indicates a loss of Ford jobs in this country, just resuming something that happened for many years. PS Do you ever stop moaning, get a life[/p][/quote]Forgot to mention that we used to arrive early for the flights, buy coffee, tea or even breakfast, ( jobs needed there) and check in with separate staff to the main terminal. We used to buy duty free on the plane. things that we would probably not have purchased otherwise, ( revenue raised !! ). Also planes were maintained in the UK, ( more jobs ) Many people were ferried to the airport and back from Dagenham and Dunton by coach, ( saving car fuel and employing a coach comopany and driver !!!). Every flight of this type from the airport means MORE JOBS !!!! openspace

3:46pm Fri 13 Jan 12

Max Impact says...

When germainia take over they WILL need to have a contract in place with one of the firms on the airport for engineers to service the aircraft whilst its on the ground securing more jobs at the airport.

DW was on the radio this moring maoning about the airport and how it is not creating the number of jobs in JAAP he forgt ot say that the 7000 with not on the airport but in the proposed business parks, which there is not point in building at present due to the state of the economy.

The moans moan because they are not being built but would moan if they were built and left empty becoming a target for squatters and vandals.
When germainia take over they WILL need to have a contract in place with one of the firms on the airport for engineers to service the aircraft whilst its on the ground securing more jobs at the airport. DW was on the radio this moring maoning about the airport and how it is not creating the number of jobs in JAAP he forgt ot say that the 7000 with not on the airport but in the proposed business parks, which there is not point in building at present due to the state of the economy. The moans moan because they are not being built but would moan if they were built and left empty becoming a target for squatters and vandals. Max Impact

5:10pm Fri 13 Jan 12

southendshrimper says...

I heard him on the radio as well, I think it would have been better if they had someone from the airport so both sides can put there side across .
I heard him on the radio as well, I think it would have been better if they had someone from the airport so both sides can put there side across . southendshrimper

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