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7:00am Friday 10th February 2012 in Local News By Chloe Chapman
A DOG lover has called on fellow pet owners to keep their animals on a lead after his was attacked in a park.
Gerald Mance, 70, of St Lawrence Gardens, Leigh, was walking his black patterdale terrier Buster in Eastwood Park when it was bitten by a husky-type dog.
Buster was bitten on the back of its left leg as Mr Mance tried to keep the three dogs away from him.
Mr Mance said: “I’m not as mobile as I used to be, but I always take Buster for a walk because it’s good for my health too. Over the past year or so there have been a couple who have got three large huskies. When you get near them you see they really are huge and Buster is so little.
“I didn’t realise until I got half way through the park they were nearby. What annoyed me the most is the owners couldn’t get there quick enough to help because of the snow and ice on the ground.”
Mr Mance never lets Buster off his lead, and believes this is a rule which all dog owners should adhere to.
He claims that is has become a particular problem in Eastwood Park recently as there are no wardens around to warn people and keep an eye out. He added: “I understand dogs will be dogs, but he has never been attacked so badly before that it has gone through his fur. You can clearly see where he’s been bleeding.
“I’m just really upset because you should be able to walk your dog safely without this happening.”
Police also want dogs to be kept on a lead if there is any risk to the public or other dogs.
The Eastwood Police team hope to track down the owners of the huskies to offer advice to ensure a similar incident does not happen again.
PC Louise Wilson said: “Any dog who is likely to bite people or other dogs should be kept on a lead.”
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Everydaypeople
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8:40am Fri 10 Feb 12
Everydaypeople
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8:42am Fri 10 Feb 12
Southendracer
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10:56am Fri 10 Feb 12
southendshrimper wrote:muzzle dogs will not work because not all dogs can wear a muzzle.
Muzzle dogs in public, then they can't bite people or other animals. I know people will say its not the dogs fault its the how the owner brings it up. But at the end of the day everyone must admit its true, a muzzeld dog won't be able to bite anything or anyone.
Southendracer
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10:59am Fri 10 Feb 12
bong74
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11:07am Fri 10 Feb 12
bob7
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11:12am Fri 10 Feb 12
bong74 wrote:All dogs have the potential to be dangerous. Why wait until one bites someone or another dog then put it on a lead? It's too late then.
I have a labrador, who go's training once a week, she is no problem off the lead, and, i know she would not bite another dog, i just think all dangerous dogs should be on a lead, then there will be no harm done to dogs and the public!!
Nebs
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11:13am Fri 10 Feb 12
bong74 wrote:You are very lucky to be able to know exactly what is going on in your dogs mind. If only all dogs owners had the same supernatural abilities as you.
I have a labrador, who go's training once a week, she is no problem off the lead, and, i know she would not bite another dog, i just think all dangerous dogs should be on a lead, then there will be no harm done to dogs and the public!!
ricardo62
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12:08pm Fri 10 Feb 12
stephen12
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12:40pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Southendracer
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12:44pm Fri 10 Feb 12
stephen12 wrote:yea because that way it dosnt matter that your cat may mess in my garden thanks for that.
all in all don't get a dog get a cat you dont have to worry
Southendracer
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12:48pm Fri 10 Feb 12
bong74 wrote:i have a dangerous dog a staffie but he is always on the lead, its people like you who let your dog of the lead that causes trouble fed up with idiots like you who think its ok for your dog to run over to mine if your dog or you do somethink stupid like that and my dog attacks you i take it you will blaim me for it.
I have a labrador, who go's training once a week, she is no problem off the lead, and, i know she would not bite another dog, i just think all dangerous dogs should be on a lead, then there will be no harm done to dogs and the public!!
stephen12
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12:48pm Fri 10 Feb 12
stephen12
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12:48pm Fri 10 Feb 12
stephen12
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12:51pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Everydaypeople
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12:55pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Southendracer
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12:58pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Everydaypeople wrote:yea but most people are to thick to understand that.
Have to agree , anyone who says but my dog is friendly it doesnt need a lead ... Well my dog is not friendly and is always on a lead so if your friendly dog runs over to me and my dog bites it is that my fault?? I think not , all dogs on leads solves the problem all dogs under control then no one gets bitten !
Everydaypeople
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1:04pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:Yes my dog was attacked by a boxer dog as a puppy and is therefore terrified of other dogs , however because of her fear her reaction is to bite other dogs first ...she will go for any dog that comes near her so is always on a lead , if the owner of the dog that attacked her had kept his dog on a lead she would not have this problem in the first place
Everydaypeople wrote:yea but most people are to thick to understand that.
Have to agree , anyone who says but my dog is friendly it doesnt need a lead ... Well my dog is not friendly and is always on a lead so if your friendly dog runs over to me and my dog bites it is that my fault?? I think not , all dogs on leads solves the problem all dogs under control then no one gets bitten !
but they will soon complain how bad our dogs are or blame us for it.
mindboggles
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1:17pm Fri 10 Feb 12
stephen12 wrote:Neither thanks! If, as an owner, you train your dog and keep it on a lead, it's highly unlikely it would kill anyone, and if you buy a litter tray and don't let the cat out until it's used it daily, neither would be likely to happen. Quite frankly, I'd rather have a dog any day, they're good company, loveable and worth it. Sick of other people's crappy cats shredding pidgeons that we're trying to feed in our garden and crapping in it, for our young child to step in and then spread round the house.
i didn't mean that in a aggresive way i mean do you want a dog to attack you on a cat to poo on your grass what would you choose ....
Sweethin1985
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1:18pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Everydaypeople
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1:27pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Sweethin1985 wrote:I'm sorry but this makes no sense at all regardless of which dog bit first this incident would never have happened if the husky was on a lead as it would not have been anywhere near buster !! The husky owner is 100 percent to blame keep your dog on a lead !
There is always two sides to every story, 'poor little buster' actually attacked the 'Husky type dog' first. Even if the dog was on a lead they could still bite, if retaliating.
I can not believe the Echo have nothing better to report on than normal dog behaviour!
mindboggles
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1:27pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Sweethin1985 wrote:Even if that's the case, the point is, Buster was on a lead with his owner, the other dogs weren't and approached him. If they had been on a lead with their owner, this wouldn't have happened. Read some of the above comments.
There is always two sides to every story, 'poor little buster' actually attacked the 'Husky type dog' first. Even if the dog was on a lead they could still bite, if retaliating.
I can not believe the Echo have nothing better to report on than normal dog behaviour!
Sweethin1985
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1:49pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Everydaypeople
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1:54pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Sweethin1985 wrote:That's exactly what I do , as a responsible dog owner !
you cant always keep dogs apart lead or not, are you saying you cross the road when walking past another dog if they are both on leads i think not!
bong74
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1:56pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:i must say i have dogs all my life and its down to the owner how your puppy turns out, some people get dogs they cannot control, you see it all the time owners running after there dogs, because they will not come back. i call my dog and she is back at side. if my dog was dangerous, i would not let it off the lead, all animals even dogs with a good temprement may bite if someone went to harm it, so if you know your dog would, keep it on a lead!!
bong74 wrote: I have a labrador, who go's training once a week, she is no problem off the lead, and, i know she would not bite another dog, i just think all dangerous dogs should be on a lead, then there will be no harm done to dogs and the public!!i have a dangerous dog a staffie but he is always on the lead, its people like you who let your dog of the lead that causes trouble fed up with idiots like you who think its ok for your dog to run over to mine if your dog or you do somethink stupid like that and my dog attacks you i take it you will blaim me for it. i have a good way for people like you and that is giving your bog a boot up the ****.
TheEchoreader1983
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2:49pm Fri 10 Feb 12
ricardo62
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2:59pm Fri 10 Feb 12
TheEchoreader1983
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3:08pm Fri 10 Feb 12
ricardo62 wrote:Twist what? I am simply conveying pints that are clearly printed in the article.
echoreader stop trying to twist it , the other dogs wernt on leads and attacked buster end of story !!!!!!
Everydaypeople
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3:15pm Fri 10 Feb 12
TheEchoreader1983 wrote:I'm sorry but however you wish to analyse it you cannot deny the simple fact that this incident would not have happened if the huskys were on a lead !
ricardo62 wrote:Twist what? I am simply conveying pints that are clearly printed in the article.
echoreader stop trying to twist it , the other dogs wernt on leads and attacked buster end of story !!!!!!
You have chosen to blame the owners of the huskies, without looking in to the article fully, simply concentrating on the fact the dogs were not on a lead.
All three huskies were not on a lead, why would only one of them choose to attack Buster? - Try looking at the full story.
I'm not saying that a dog attacking another dog is right, but it appears that the majority of the comments here are very narrow minded.
maybe we should interview the huskies owners get their side of the story maybe you will then not be so quick to pass judgement.
TheEchoreader1983
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3:22pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Everydaypeople wrote:No I can deny that! Simply because there is no evidence that would suggest that they wouldn't have.
TheEchoreader1983 wrote:I'm sorry but however you wish to analyse it you cannot deny the simple fact that this incident would not have happened if the huskys were on a lead !ricardo62 wrote: echoreader stop trying to twist it , the other dogs wernt on leads and attacked buster end of story !!!!!!Twist what? I am simply conveying pints that are clearly printed in the article. You have chosen to blame the owners of the huskies, without looking in to the article fully, simply concentrating on the fact the dogs were not on a lead. All three huskies were not on a lead, why would only one of them choose to attack Buster? - Try looking at the full story. I'm not saying that a dog attacking another dog is right, but it appears that the majority of the comments here are very narrow minded. maybe we should interview the huskies owners get their side of the story maybe you will then not be so quick to pass judgement.
Everydaypeople
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3:31pm Fri 10 Feb 12
TheEchoreader1983 wrote:What did buster do to warrant being bitten !! What a statement ...my dog is scared of other dogs , my dog will bit other dogs , therefore my dog is kept on a lead ...my dog will bark at other dogs , if they are of lead and retaliate at my dogs barking that is their owners fault !!
Everydaypeople wrote:No I can deny that! Simply because there is no evidence that would suggest that they wouldn't have.
TheEchoreader1983 wrote:I'm sorry but however you wish to analyse it you cannot deny the simple fact that this incident would not have happened if the huskys were on a lead !ricardo62 wrote: echoreader stop trying to twist it , the other dogs wernt on leads and attacked buster end of story !!!!!!Twist what? I am simply conveying pints that are clearly printed in the article. You have chosen to blame the owners of the huskies, without looking in to the article fully, simply concentrating on the fact the dogs were not on a lead. All three huskies were not on a lead, why would only one of them choose to attack Buster? - Try looking at the full story. I'm not saying that a dog attacking another dog is right, but it appears that the majority of the comments here are very narrow minded. maybe we should interview the huskies owners get their side of the story maybe you will then not be so quick to pass judgement.
What I'm trying to articulate is that that there is more to the story than what has been published, and you people are quick enough to pass blame, on the basis that the huskies' were not on a lead. All three were not on the lead, Only one dog bit buster! Answer me this. What did buster do to the husky to warrant being bitten?
Oh, you don't know, why? Perhaps, you have not heard the full account.
Go away, analyse the article and then think!
Chris Pearce
ricardo62
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3:32pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Sweethin1985
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3:32pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Everydaypeople wrote:you can not say it wouldn't have happened, i have been walking my dog at a market before by my side, when i walked past another dog 'WHO WAS ON A LEAD' and he attacked my dog.
TheEchoreader1983 wrote:I'm sorry but however you wish to analyse it you cannot deny the simple fact that this incident would not have happened if the huskys were on a lead !ricardo62 wrote: echoreader stop trying to twist it , the other dogs wernt on leads and attacked buster end of story !!!!!!Twist what? I am simply conveying pints that are clearly printed in the article. You have chosen to blame the owners of the huskies, without looking in to the article fully, simply concentrating on the fact the dogs were not on a lead. All three huskies were not on a lead, why would only one of them choose to attack Buster? - Try looking at the full story. I'm not saying that a dog attacking another dog is right, but it appears that the majority of the comments here are very narrow minded. maybe we should interview the huskies owners get their side of the story maybe you will then not be so quick to pass judgement.
Southendracer
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3:43pm Fri 10 Feb 12
bong74 wrote:I have had dogs all my life to but not one of them have been off the lead you cant control your dog. Can you read minds like i said if your dog came near me it would see my boot.
Southendracer wrote:i must say i have dogs all my life and its down to the owner how your puppy turns out, some people get dogs they cannot control, you see it all the time owners running after there dogs, because they will not come back. i call my dog and she is back at side. if my dog was dangerous, i would not let it off the lead, all animals even dogs with a good temprement may bite if someone went to harm it, so if you know your dog would, keep it on a lead!!
bong74 wrote: I have a labrador, who go's training once a week, she is no problem off the lead, and, i know she would not bite another dog, i just think all dangerous dogs should be on a lead, then there will be no harm done to dogs and the public!!i have a dangerous dog a staffie but he is always on the lead, its people like you who let your dog of the lead that causes trouble fed up with idiots like you who think its ok for your dog to run over to mine if your dog or you do somethink stupid like that and my dog attacks you i take it you will blaim me for it. i have a good way for people like you and that is giving your bog a boot up the ****.
ricardo62
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3:43pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Southendracer
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3:46pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Sweethin1985 wrote:And if it does and both dogs was on a lead you can pull them aways but if one wasnt how are you supposed to stop it?
Everydaypeople wrote:you can not say it wouldn't have happened, i have been walking my dog at a market before by my side, when i walked past another dog 'WHO WAS ON A LEAD' and he attacked my dog.
TheEchoreader1983 wrote:I'm sorry but however you wish to analyse it you cannot deny the simple fact that this incident would not have happened if the huskys were on a lead !ricardo62 wrote: echoreader stop trying to twist it , the other dogs wernt on leads and attacked buster end of story !!!!!!Twist what? I am simply conveying pints that are clearly printed in the article. You have chosen to blame the owners of the huskies, without looking in to the article fully, simply concentrating on the fact the dogs were not on a lead. All three huskies were not on a lead, why would only one of them choose to attack Buster? - Try looking at the full story. I'm not saying that a dog attacking another dog is right, but it appears that the majority of the comments here are very narrow minded. maybe we should interview the huskies owners get their side of the story maybe you will then not be so quick to pass judgement.
This could happen in the street or the entrance to a park.
TheEchoreader1983
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3:48pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Everydaypeople wrote:It was not a statement, it was a question!
TheEchoreader1983 wrote:What did buster do to warrant being bitten !! What a statement ...my dog is scared of other dogs , my dog will bit other dogs , therefore my dog is kept on a lead ...my dog will bark at other dogs , if they are of lead and retaliate at my dogs barking that is their owners fault !! Whatever buster did he did not deserve to be attacked he was on a lead the other dogs were not therefore the only fault lies with the huskys owner . If a dog off lead approaches my dog on lead and my dog bites it then it is the other owners fault for not keeping their dog under control , and before you say it yes we have tried obedience classes and a dog psychologist , both of whom say my dogs aggression is fear based after being attacked by another dog as a puppy , despite months of working with her she can still be aggressive to other dogs so for their safety and her own she is kept on a lead .Everydaypeople wrote:No I can deny that! Simply because there is no evidence that would suggest that they wouldn't have. What I'm trying to articulate is that that there is more to the story than what has been published, and you people are quick enough to pass blame, on the basis that the huskies' were not on a lead. All three were not on the lead, Only one dog bit buster! Answer me this. What did buster do to the husky to warrant being bitten? Oh, you don't know, why? Perhaps, you have not heard the full account. Go away, analyse the article and then think! Chris PearceTheEchoreader1983 wrote:I'm sorry but however you wish to analyse it you cannot deny the simple fact that this incident would not have happened if the huskys were on a lead !ricardo62 wrote: echoreader stop trying to twist it , the other dogs wernt on leads and attacked buster end of story !!!!!!Twist what? I am simply conveying pints that are clearly printed in the article. You have chosen to blame the owners of the huskies, without looking in to the article fully, simply concentrating on the fact the dogs were not on a lead. All three huskies were not on a lead, why would only one of them choose to attack Buster? - Try looking at the full story. I'm not saying that a dog attacking another dog is right, but it appears that the majority of the comments here are very narrow minded. maybe we should interview the huskies owners get their side of the story maybe you will then not be so quick to pass judgement.
ricardo62
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3:54pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Everydaypeople
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4:19pm Fri 10 Feb 12
TheEchoreader1983 wrote:Absolute rubbish , Gerald would I'm sure be more than capable of controlling his dog if other people had the decency and responsibility to do the same thing .....it does not sound to me like buster dragged his owner across the park to attack the huskies ....the huskies approached him therefore it is them that is not under control
Everydaypeople wrote:It was not a statement, it was a question!
TheEchoreader1983 wrote:What did buster do to warrant being bitten !! What a statement ...my dog is scared of other dogs , my dog will bit other dogs , therefore my dog is kept on a lead ...my dog will bark at other dogs , if they are of lead and retaliate at my dogs barking that is their owners fault !! Whatever buster did he did not deserve to be attacked he was on a lead the other dogs were not therefore the only fault lies with the huskys owner . If a dog off lead approaches my dog on lead and my dog bites it then it is the other owners fault for not keeping their dog under control , and before you say it yes we have tried obedience classes and a dog psychologist , both of whom say my dogs aggression is fear based after being attacked by another dog as a puppy , despite months of working with her she can still be aggressive to other dogs so for their safety and her own she is kept on a lead .Everydaypeople wrote:No I can deny that! Simply because there is no evidence that would suggest that they wouldn't have. What I'm trying to articulate is that that there is more to the story than what has been published, and you people are quick enough to pass blame, on the basis that the huskies' were not on a lead. All three were not on the lead, Only one dog bit buster! Answer me this. What did buster do to the husky to warrant being bitten? Oh, you don't know, why? Perhaps, you have not heard the full account. Go away, analyse the article and then think! Chris PearceTheEchoreader1983 wrote:I'm sorry but however you wish to analyse it you cannot deny the simple fact that this incident would not have happened if the huskys were on a lead !ricardo62 wrote: echoreader stop trying to twist it , the other dogs wernt on leads and attacked buster end of story !!!!!!Twist what? I am simply conveying pints that are clearly printed in the article. You have chosen to blame the owners of the huskies, without looking in to the article fully, simply concentrating on the fact the dogs were not on a lead. All three huskies were not on a lead, why would only one of them choose to attack Buster? - Try looking at the full story. I'm not saying that a dog attacking another dog is right, but it appears that the majority of the comments here are very narrow minded. maybe we should interview the huskies owners get their side of the story maybe you will then not be so quick to pass judgement.
Is this article about your dog? or about Geralds' god Buster?
Again you have taken the line that its the owners fault for not having the dog on a lead. We know the gods was not on leads. Agreed, and yes the oners made that choice! However, im sure that this would not have been the first time the Huskies were walked off the lead, and there is no mention of any previous incidents, neither with Buster or any other dogs. Therfore we must assume these dogs have interacted with other dogs in Easwood Park, without incident.
Why was buster any differet?
I assume that buster attacked the husky, and the husky then defended its self. (which would re inforce my previous comment about this notbeing the first time bust had been bitten)
This would then mean that Gerald is unable to control his dog even when it is on the lead, and if that the case, is it safe to walk him in a public place at all?
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4:21pm Fri 10 Feb 12
ricardo62 wrote:Yout honesly think that the Police will pass this to a magistrate?
the judges and jury will decide when all evidence has been presented to them ???
ricardo62
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5:57pm Fri 10 Feb 12
All 9 of me
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6:26pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Alice in Her Own Land :P
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7:38pm Fri 10 Feb 12
ricardo62 wrote:Thanks for this helpful piece of advice. It's easy to think that taking your dog out is ok and there aren't hidden dangers like rock salt that can be harmful to them.
mr husky is going to be charged wiv g b h and shortly will be in custody , on a lighter note make sure your dog does not eat slush that has been treated wiv rock salt or lick his paws it is known to cause kidney failure and is dangerous ???
Dumbnut
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2:39am Sun 12 Feb 12
Everydaypeople
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8:57am Sun 12 Feb 12
Dumbnut wrote:Suitable username snm
I'm with TheEchoreader1983 on this one.
Everydaypeople: How sure are you regarding Gerald?. Would you put your house on it?. I don't think so.
Nebs
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Illinois10
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12:13pm Sun 12 Feb 12
Everydaypeople wrote:And you wonder why one of your dogs doesn't like other when you are failing to socialise them. It annoys me when people who never let there fog off the lead seem to be able to run the country and come up with ridiculous rules about creating animals rather than well mannered dogs. If owners fail to understand all the needs of a dog then they shouldn't be allowed to keep them.
Totally agree all dogs should be kept on a lead in public places , I have 2 dogs and when I walk them they are always on their leads , one of them does not like other dogs and I am constantly telling people with dogs off lead to keep them away , it should be law that digs must be on a lead
Illinois10
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12:21pm Sun 12 Feb 12
bob7 wrote:That is true, all dogs go have the potential to be dangerous, but at least she is taking responsibility of her dog by taking her training.
bong74 wrote:All dogs have the potential to be dangerous. Why wait until one bites someone or another dog then put it on a lead? It's too late then.
I have a labrador, who go's training once a week, she is no problem off the lead, and, i know she would not bite another dog, i just think all dangerous dogs should be on a lead, then there will be no harm done to dogs and the public!!
Illinois10
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12:30pm Sun 12 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:3 questions for you....
bong74 wrote:i have a dangerous dog a staffie but he is always on the lead, its people like you who let your dog of the lead that causes trouble fed up with idiots like you who think its ok for your dog to run over to mine if your dog or you do somethink stupid like that and my dog attacks you i take it you will blaim me for it.
I have a labrador, who go's training once a week, she is no problem off the lead, and, i know she would not bite another dog, i just think all dangerous dogs should be on a lead, then there will be no harm done to dogs and the public!!
i have a good way for people like you and that is giving your bog a boot up the ****.
Everydaypeople
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2:42pm Sun 12 Feb 12
Illinois10 wrote:And just by reading your post I can tell your one of those people that allow your dog to run amock off lead !! If you read my other posts you will see why my dog has a problem and the steps I have taken to rectify it ! But it's quite simple really keep your dog on a lead away from my dog and problem solved , take some responsibility !
Everydaypeople wrote:And you wonder why one of your dogs doesn't like other when you are failing to socialise them. It annoys me when people who never let there fog off the lead seem to be able to run the country and come up with ridiculous rules about creating animals rather than well mannered dogs. If owners fail to understand all the needs of a dog then they shouldn't be allowed to keep them.
Totally agree all dogs should be kept on a lead in public places , I have 2 dogs and when I walk them they are always on their leads , one of them does not like other dogs and I am constantly telling people with dogs off lead to keep them away , it should be law that digs must be on a lead
Illinois10
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3:00pm Sun 12 Feb 12
Everydaypeople wrote:My dog is allowed off lead as she is well trained, but if she misbehaves or someone asks i put her back on lead. A problem with owners (this is not directed at you) do not understand how dogs think or behave as the animal they are. This is why the dog training courses i have done, am still doing and the countless books i have on the subject allow me to know more about them. Also a lot of owners do not trust their dog, but it may be they do not trust themselves or want to be in control of their dog and for the dog to respect that.
Illinois10 wrote:And just by reading your post I can tell your one of those people that allow your dog to run amock off lead !! If you read my other posts you will see why my dog has a problem and the steps I have taken to rectify it ! But it's quite simple really keep your dog on a lead away from my dog and problem solved , take some responsibility !
Everydaypeople wrote:And you wonder why one of your dogs doesn't like other when you are failing to socialise them. It annoys me when people who never let there fog off the lead seem to be able to run the country and come up with ridiculous rules about creating animals rather than well mannered dogs. If owners fail to understand all the needs of a dog then they shouldn't be allowed to keep them.
Totally agree all dogs should be kept on a lead in public places , I have 2 dogs and when I walk them they are always on their leads , one of them does not like other dogs and I am constantly telling people with dogs off lead to keep them away , it should be law that digs must be on a lead
Everydaypeople
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4:07pm Sun 12 Feb 12
Illinois10 wrote:Whilst I respect that you are obviously a responsible owner who clearly knows and trusts your dogs behaviour and has taken the time to educate yourself on the matter , your statement that if your dog misbehaves you put her back on the lead only strengthens my belief that all dogs should be on a lead ....sometimes by the point the dog misbehaves the damage is already done
Everydaypeople wrote:My dog is allowed off lead as she is well trained, but if she misbehaves or someone asks i put her back on lead. A problem with owners (this is not directed at you) do not understand how dogs think or behave as the animal they are. This is why the dog training courses i have done, am still doing and the countless books i have on the subject allow me to know more about them. Also a lot of owners do not trust their dog, but it may be they do not trust themselves or want to be in control of their dog and for the dog to respect that.
Illinois10 wrote:And just by reading your post I can tell your one of those people that allow your dog to run amock off lead !! If you read my other posts you will see why my dog has a problem and the steps I have taken to rectify it ! But it's quite simple really keep your dog on a lead away from my dog and problem solved , take some responsibility !
Everydaypeople wrote:And you wonder why one of your dogs doesn't like other when you are failing to socialise them. It annoys me when people who never let there fog off the lead seem to be able to run the country and come up with ridiculous rules about creating animals rather than well mannered dogs. If owners fail to understand all the needs of a dog then they shouldn't be allowed to keep them.
Totally agree all dogs should be kept on a lead in public places , I have 2 dogs and when I walk them they are always on their leads , one of them does not like other dogs and I am constantly telling people with dogs off lead to keep them away , it should be law that digs must be on a lead
Illinois10
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4:25pm Sun 12 Feb 12
Everydaypeople wrote:When I say 'misbehaves' I mean when she does not listen to me and moves away from me upon my command. She has never shown any true aggression or willingness to attack to hurt another dog or human in fact, she will however let the a dog know when it has overstepped the mark. Anything more and she knows in there to deal with it.
Illinois10 wrote:Whilst I respect that you are obviously a responsible owner who clearly knows and trusts your dogs behaviour and has taken the time to educate yourself on the matter , your statement that if your dog misbehaves you put her back on the lead only strengthens my belief that all dogs should be on a lead ....sometimes by the point the dog misbehaves the damage is already done
Everydaypeople wrote:My dog is allowed off lead as she is well trained, but if she misbehaves or someone asks i put her back on lead. A problem with owners (this is not directed at you) do not understand how dogs think or behave as the animal they are. This is why the dog training courses i have done, am still doing and the countless books i have on the subject allow me to know more about them. Also a lot of owners do not trust their dog, but it may be they do not trust themselves or want to be in control of their dog and for the dog to respect that.
Illinois10 wrote:And just by reading your post I can tell your one of those people that allow your dog to run amock off lead !! If you read my other posts you will see why my dog has a problem and the steps I have taken to rectify it ! But it's quite simple really keep your dog on a lead away from my dog and problem solved , take some responsibility !
Everydaypeople wrote:And you wonder why one of your dogs doesn't like other when you are failing to socialise them. It annoys me when people who never let there fog off the lead seem to be able to run the country and come up with ridiculous rules about creating animals rather than well mannered dogs. If owners fail to understand all the needs of a dog then they shouldn't be allowed to keep them.
Totally agree all dogs should be kept on a lead in public places , I have 2 dogs and when I walk them they are always on their leads , one of them does not like other dogs and I am constantly telling people with dogs off lead to keep them away , it should be law that digs must be on a lead
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ChrisFunk
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5:59pm Mon 13 Feb 12
stephen12 wrote:Perhaps you should read up on effects of T.gondii on the human brain.
all in all don't get a dog get a cat you dont have to worry
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ChrisFunk wrote:The biggest amount of sh i t ive possibly read in my life.
stephen12 wrote: all in all don't get a dog get a cat you dont have to worryPerhaps you should read up on effects of T.gondii on the human brain. Infection rates are high with exposure to cats obviously being the biggest risk. There's no cure and it's linked to things as widespread as brain cancers, schizophrenia, decreased reaction times, suicides, a six fold increase in the risk of car crashes, behavioral changes, hallucinations... The list goes on and on. http://www.theatlant ic.com/magazine/arch ive/2012/03/how-your -cat-is-making-you-c razy/8873/ Cats are amazing but so are their parasites.
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