Fury as bill to fix roof tops £18k

Lee Ruth faces a hefty bill with fellow landlord Paul Robbins Lee Ruth faces a hefty bill with fellow landlord Paul Robbins

IT is usually rogue traders who get criticised for ramping up the price of a job once the work is finished. Now a council has been accused of using similar tactics, by doubling the estimate it gave for reroofing two flats.

Paul Robbins and Lee Ruth, landlords who rent out a flat, in Roodegate, Basildon , said Basildon Council asked for an £8,000 contribution towards re-roofing the building, split between the two leaseholders.

It is a small block made up of a flat on the ground floor and another upstairs.

The freehold is held by Basildon Council, while the flats are leased out. When people own the leasehold of a flat in a block owned by a council, or housing association, they may sometimes have to contribute towards general maintenance of the building.

Mr Robbins said: “As a landlord you expect these kind of costs occasionally, but the original quote was about £8,000 – that would have been £4,000 per leaseholder in the block. That seemed a bit high, but we were prepared for that amount.”

He said when the work was finished the actual bill came through the door for £18,000, meaning £9,000 each between the two flats. He said: “I couldn’t believe how much the bill went up by. It was just the simple replacement of a flat roof.

“I have since been advised by someone in the trade this sort of job could have been done for around £5,000, so it would only have been £2,500 per flat.

“If that was the bill for one block, they must be paying similar amounts across the borough, so you have got to question the value for money for taxpayers.”

Mr Robbins also said Basildon was short of landlords in the borough, but charging such maintenance fees would force them out of the area.

A council spokesman said the original estimate for the job as a whole had been £7,000. He said the cost had risen during the work due to unforeseen circumstances. He said: “As with all roofing works, once you remove the old covering any other faults that are present have to be fixed, which result in a rise in costs to each tenant.

“The system we are using has a 20 year guarantee which offers good value for money and means there will be no further maintenance costs for this period.

“The council will assist leaseholders with a number of payment options available.”

Comments (6)

11:49am Tue 21 Aug 12

j-w says...

Dispatches on channel 4 last night was also looking into this sort of thing. Catch it on 4OD.
Are Basildon council on a profit share with their contractors?
Dispatches on channel 4 last night was also looking into this sort of thing. Catch it on 4OD. Are Basildon council on a profit share with their contractors? j-w

12:12pm Tue 21 Aug 12

GentleGiant says...

Always get a quote, or refuse the work. Simple.
Always get a quote, or refuse the work. Simple. GentleGiant

12:18pm Tue 21 Aug 12

Andonemorething says...

just had similar with apparently essentals lighting works. £3500 to replace 10 (working) lights and wiring. Company website quotes "we may not be beaten on price but we wont be beaten on quality".....erm... i thought the council were meant to get us the best price. Been told by Basildon Council it will be financially benficial in the long run as bulbs wont need replacing....we've had 2 replaced in the last year at a cost of £43.....by my workings i'll be dead before i see any benefit!
My service charge has more than doubled this year (more than my council tax now) thanks to expensive works like this.
Disgusting. Where on earth do they expect the above people to find this amount of money?! under their armpits?
just had similar with apparently essentals lighting works. £3500 to replace 10 (working) lights and wiring. Company website quotes "we may not be beaten on price but we wont be beaten on quality".....erm... i thought the council were meant to get us the best price. Been told by Basildon Council it will be financially benficial in the long run as bulbs wont need replacing....we've had 2 replaced in the last year at a cost of £43.....by my workings i'll be dead before i see any benefit! My service charge has more than doubled this year (more than my council tax now) thanks to expensive works like this. Disgusting. Where on earth do they expect the above people to find this amount of money?! under their armpits? Andonemorething

12:26pm Tue 21 Aug 12

andy:) says...

Some advice.

Visit Leasehold Advisory Service - http://www.lease-adv
ice.org/

And Landlord Zone - Leashttp://www.landl
ordzone.co.uk/forums
/forumdisplay.php?11
-Long-Leasehold-Ques
tions

Watch the above mentioned Channel 4 - Dispatches - http://www.landlordz
one.co.uk/forums/for
umdisplay.php?11-Lon
g-Leasehold-Question
s

For any major works the Freeholder should follow the S20 Consultation process giving you a chance make comments and importantly get alternative quotes.

Dont assume that your freeholder is always right, I've questioned mine and take legal action in Court and LVT and have saved/been refunded many thousands of pounds.

It does sound that as the original cost was far higher than the quote the leaseholders may have a legal case.

Andy
Some advice. Visit Leasehold Advisory Service - http://www.lease-adv ice.org/ And Landlord Zone - Leashttp://www.landl ordzone.co.uk/forums /forumdisplay.php?11 -Long-Leasehold-Ques tions Watch the above mentioned Channel 4 - Dispatches - http://www.landlordz one.co.uk/forums/for umdisplay.php?11-Lon g-Leasehold-Question s For any major works the Freeholder should follow the S20 Consultation process giving you a chance make comments and importantly get alternative quotes. Dont assume that your freeholder is always right, I've questioned mine and take legal action in Court and LVT and have saved/been refunded many thousands of pounds. It does sound that as the original cost was far higher than the quote the leaseholders may have a legal case. Andy andy:)

12:27pm Tue 21 Aug 12

andy:) says...

CORRECTION:

And Landlord Zone - Long Leaseholder Forums - http://www.landl
ordzone.co.uk/forums

/forumdisplay.php?11

-Long-Leasehold-Ques

tions
CORRECTION: And Landlord Zone - Long Leaseholder Forums - http://www.landl ordzone.co.uk/forums /forumdisplay.php?11 -Long-Leasehold-Ques tions andy:)

2:42pm Tue 21 Aug 12

TONY. T says...

Tony. T
Having worked in the bulding industry for over 50yrs this is a rip off.
IT is well known throughout the industry that contracts for local authoritys and Goverment are a licence to print money, this is due to their prefered bidder system Get the council to send a list of every bit of work done, materials used (check prices at builders merchants ) hours worked. Name of person overseeing work and who accepeted quote 20yrs garantee with modern materials it should be at least 35yrs.
Contact the Trading Standards Office the council is responsable as agents it is their responsability to keep lease holders informed of extra works and any costs this might invole .Contact onbudsman about possible malpractise
Tony. T Having worked in the bulding industry for over 50yrs this is a rip off. IT is well known throughout the industry that contracts for local authoritys and Goverment are a licence to print money, this is due to their prefered bidder system Get the council to send a list of every bit of work done, materials used (check prices at builders merchants ) hours worked. Name of person overseeing work and who accepeted quote 20yrs garantee with modern materials it should be at least 35yrs. Contact the Trading Standards Office the council is responsable as agents it is their responsability to keep lease holders informed of extra works and any costs this might invole .Contact onbudsman about possible malpractise TONY. T

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