Cannabis found in loft of Southend home. (From Echo)

Babs Stanley wrote:
We need to stop this stupid and unwinnable war against cannabis. It is causing far more harm to our communities than it prevents. If we had a properly regulated system of production and supply we'd have no more illegal cannabis farms, instead we'd have thousands of new jobs. We'd have no more dealers on the streets. Cannabis would be available to adults only through licensed outlets and we'd have some control over the THC and CBD content. Doctors would be able to prescribe one of the most effective medicines that has no serious side effects at all. At the moment the government has given GW Pharmaceuticals an illegal monopoly on cannabis so they make millions out of a medicine that you can grow in your greenhouse for virtually nothing. If we introduced a legally regulated system we would solve nearly all the problems around cannabis. Science proves how much safer it is than tobacco, alcohol, prescription medicines and all other recreational drugs. If anyone does have a problem with it they could get help without having to confess to a crime. CLEAR published independent, expert research last year which shows that a tax and regulate policy on cannabis would produce a net gain to the UK economy of up to £9.3 billion per annum. It is a scandal that our government, our judges, our courts, our police and our newspapers keep misleading us about cannabis. Find out the truth for yourself and wake up to the lies you have been told.

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
As Socrates and Martin Luther King said "there is a moral obligation to obey just laws but people also have a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws". This is why prohibition does not and will never work. Any law that prohibits people from having the odd glass of wine or the odd smoke of cannabis is unjust.

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
As Socrates and Martin Luther King said "there is a moral obligation to obey just laws but people also have a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws". This is why prohibition does not and will never work. Any law that prohibits people from having the odd glass of wine or the odd smoke of cannabis is unjust.

Im sure more than just Socrates and Martin Luther King said that, in fact you have said it also...I often say it, at least once of five times a week.

BTW i agree re: "there is a moral obligation to obey just laws but people also have a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws".


You of course mean like resisting being evicted from your land onto the road when you have nowhere to go?

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
As Socrates and Martin Luther King said "there is a moral obligation to obey just laws but people also have a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws". This is why prohibition does not and will never work. Any law that prohibits people from having the odd glass of wine or the odd smoke of cannabis is unjust.

Im sure more than just Socrates and Martin Luther King said that, in fact you have said it also...I often say it, at least once of five times a week.

BTW i agree re: "there is a moral obligation to obey just laws but people also have a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws".


You of course mean like resisting being evicted from your land onto the road when you have nowhere to go?

When people get arrested and or thrown in jail for growing a plant safer than aspirin, because they want to relax or safely self medicate, that is unjust. Especially when they allow GW pharma to grow the exact same plants, as medicine. Especially when the reasons why cannabis remains illegal have nothing to do with harm reduction, expert advice or scientific evidence. If i had MS or a condition cannabis could help me with, when nothing else could, I would disobey such an unjust law with my heart in it. Especially when i know growing a few medicinal plants for myself is a victimless crime.

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese

l wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
As Socrates and Martin Luther King said "there is a moral obligation to obey just laws but people also have a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws". This is why prohibition does not and will never work. Any law that prohibits people from having the odd glass of wine or the odd smoke of cannabis is unjust.

Im sure more than just Socrates and Martin Luther King said that, in fact you have said it also...I often say it, at least once of five times a week.

BTW i agree re: "there is a moral obligation to obey just laws but people also have a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws".


You of course mean like resisting being evicted from your land onto the road when you have nowhere to go?

When people get arrested and or thrown in jail for growing a plant safer than aspirin, because they want to relax or safely self medicate, that is unjust. Especially when they allow GW pharma to grow the exact same plants, as medicine. Especially when the reasons why cannabis remains illegal have nothing to do with harm reduction, expert advice or scientific evidence. If i had MS or a condition cannabis could help me with, when nothing else could, I would disobey such an unjust law with my heart in it. Especially when i know growing a few medicinal plants for myself is a victimless crime.

well when you contract MS i'm sure the powers that be will turn a blind eye but until then you will be prosecuted with the full force of the law

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese


l wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
As Socrates and Martin Luther King said "there is a moral obligation to obey just laws but people also have a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws". This is why prohibition does not and will never work. Any law that prohibits people from having the odd glass of wine or the odd smoke of cannabis is unjust.

Im sure more than just Socrates and Martin Luther King said that, in fact you have said it also...I often say it, at least once of five times a week.

BTW i agree re: "there is a moral obligation to obey just laws but people also have a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws".


You of course mean like resisting being evicted from your land onto the road when you have nowhere to go?

When people get arrested and or thrown in jail for growing a plant safer than aspirin, because they want to relax or safely self medicate, that is unjust. Especially when they allow GW pharma to grow the exact same plants, as medicine. Especially when the reasons why cannabis remains illegal have nothing to do with harm reduction, expert advice or scientific evidence. If i had MS or a condition cannabis could help me with, when nothing else could, I would disobey such an unjust law with my heart in it. Especially when i know growing a few medicinal plants for myself is a victimless crime.

well when you contract MS i'm sure the powers that be will turn a blind eye but until then you will be prosecuted with the full force of the law

You cant contract MS, and no, the law will not turn a blind eye so get your facts straight. The full force of the law....Do you blindly support any law? The law is not always there to protect us, in fact it can do the opposite, Remember segregation?

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese

l wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote: i see we have the graduates from the peter reynolds' correctional facility guesting again. our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence - yeah. high five me biffo the monkey

Are you a troll? You never have anything real to say, apart from having ago at others for having their say getting involved in a debate.

Yes of course he is a sad old troll, should be popping off soon to join his shift down the mines, ha ha!
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Thanks for the laugh Asbo, your accusations that others are "polluting message boards with propaganda" is pure comedy as the only one doing that is YOU! Have fun down the mines.

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese

l wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese



l wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
As Socrates and Martin Luther King said "there is a moral obligation to obey just laws but people also have a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws". This is why prohibition does not and will never work. Any law that prohibits people from having the odd glass of wine or the odd smoke of cannabis is unjust.

Im sure more than just Socrates and Martin Luther King said that, in fact you have said it also...I often say it, at least once of five times a week.

BTW i agree re: "there is a moral obligation to obey just laws but people also have a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws".


You of course mean like resisting being evicted from your land onto the road when you have nowhere to go?

When people get arrested and or thrown in jail for growing a plant safer than aspirin, because they want to relax or safely self medicate, that is unjust. Especially when they allow GW pharma to grow the exact same plants, as medicine. Especially when the reasons why cannabis remains illegal have nothing to do with harm reduction, expert advice or scientific evidence. If i had MS or a condition cannabis could help me with, when nothing else could, I would disobey such an unjust law with my heart in it. Especially when i know growing a few medicinal plants for myself is a victimless crime.

well when you contract MS i'm sure the powers that be will turn a blind eye but until then you will be prosecuted with the full force of the law

You cant contract MS, and no, the law will not turn a blind eye so get your facts straight. The full force of the law....Do you blindly support any law? The law is not always there to protect us, in fact it can do the opposite, Remember segregation?

no i don't remember segregation. show me someone growing dope for personal use with MS who has been prosecuted recently.

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese


l wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese




l wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
As Socrates and Martin Luther King said "there is a moral obligation to obey just laws but people also have a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws". This is why prohibition does not and will never work. Any law that prohibits people from having the odd glass of wine or the odd smoke of cannabis is unjust.

Im sure more than just Socrates and Martin Luther King said that, in fact you have said it also...I often say it, at least once of five times a week.

BTW i agree re: "there is a moral obligation to obey just laws but people also have a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws".


You of course mean like resisting being evicted from your land onto the road when you have nowhere to go?

When people get arrested and or thrown in jail for growing a plant safer than aspirin, because they want to relax or safely self medicate, that is unjust. Especially when they allow GW pharma to grow the exact same plants, as medicine. Especially when the reasons why cannabis remains illegal have nothing to do with harm reduction, expert advice or scientific evidence. If i had MS or a condition cannabis could help me with, when nothing else could, I would disobey such an unjust law with my heart in it. Especially when i know growing a few medicinal plants for myself is a victimless crime.

well when you contract MS i'm sure the powers that be will turn a blind eye but until then you will be prosecuted with the full force of the law

You cant contract MS, and no, the law will not turn a blind eye so get your facts straight. The full force of the law....Do you blindly support any law? The law is not always there to protect us, in fact it can do the opposite, Remember segregation?

no i don't remember segregation. show me someone growing dope for personal use with MS who has been prosecuted recently.

How could i show you lol? You ask me to do something you know i cant. The police dont keep information about the condition of the people they prosecute, whether they have MS or a panic disorder, not unless i request FOI. You seem to think the law is softer on medicinal cannabis users, than recreational, but this is not true. Why dont you prove me wrong?

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

DEBT*COLLECTOR wrote:

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

What are we grasses over a plant smoking person. Grow up

jayman wrote:

DEBT*COLLECTOR wrote:

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

What are we grasses over a plant smoking person. Grow up

yep..

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese


l wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese




l wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
As Socrates and Martin Luther King said "there is a moral obligation to obey just laws but people also have a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws". This is why prohibition does not and will never work. Any law that prohibits people from having the odd glass of wine or the odd smoke of cannabis is unjust.

Im sure more than just Socrates and Martin Luther King said that, in fact you have said it also...I often say it, at least once of five times a week.

BTW i agree re: "there is a moral obligation to obey just laws but people also have a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws".


You of course mean like resisting being evicted from your land onto the road when you have nowhere to go?

When people get arrested and or thrown in jail for growing a plant safer than aspirin, because they want to relax or safely self medicate, that is unjust. Especially when they allow GW pharma to grow the exact same plants, as medicine. Especially when the reasons why cannabis remains illegal have nothing to do with harm reduction, expert advice or scientific evidence. If i had MS or a condition cannabis could help me with, when nothing else could, I would disobey such an unjust law with my heart in it. Especially when i know growing a few medicinal plants for myself is a victimless crime.

well when you contract MS i'm sure the powers that be will turn a blind eye but until then you will be prosecuted with the full force of the law

You cant contract MS, and no, the law will not turn a blind eye so get your facts straight. The full force of the law....Do you blindly support any law? The law is not always there to protect us, in fact it can do the opposite, Remember segregation?

no i don't remember segregation. show me someone growing dope for personal use with MS who has been prosecuted recently.

How could i show you lol? You ask me to do something you know i cant. The police dont keep information about the condition of the people they prosecute, whether they have MS or a panic disorder, not unless i request FOI. You seem to think the law is softer on medicinal cannabis users, than recreational, but this is not true. Why dont you prove me wrong?

stevea62 wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese

l wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese



l wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese





l wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
As Socrates and Martin Luther King said "there is a moral obligation to obey just laws but people also have a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws". This is why prohibition does not and will never work. Any law that prohibits people from having the odd glass of wine or the odd smoke of cannabis is unjust.

Im sure more than just Socrates and Martin Luther King said that, in fact you have said it also...I often say it, at least once of five times a week.

BTW i agree re: "there is a moral obligation to obey just laws but people also have a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws".


You of course mean like resisting being evicted from your land onto the road when you have nowhere to go?

When people get arrested and or thrown in jail for growing a plant safer than aspirin, because they want to relax or safely self medicate, that is unjust. Especially when they allow GW pharma to grow the exact same plants, as medicine. Especially when the reasons why cannabis remains illegal have nothing to do with harm reduction, expert advice or scientific evidence. If i had MS or a condition cannabis could help me with, when nothing else could, I would disobey such an unjust law with my heart in it. Especially when i know growing a few medicinal plants for myself is a victimless crime.

well when you contract MS i'm sure the powers that be will turn a blind eye but until then you will be prosecuted with the full force of the law

You cant contract MS, and no, the law will not turn a blind eye so get your facts straight. The full force of the law....Do you blindly support any law? The law is not always there to protect us, in fact it can do the opposite, Remember segregation?

no i don't remember segregation. show me someone growing dope for personal use with MS who has been prosecuted recently.

How could i show you lol? You ask me to do something you know i cant. The police dont keep information about the condition of the people they prosecute, whether they have MS or a panic disorder, not unless i request FOI. You seem to think the law is softer on medicinal cannabis users, than recreational, but this is not true. Why dont you prove me wrong?

He doesn't have to prove you wrong, the law does it for him.

The latest set of government rules about sentencing make specific reference to the fact that defendants claiming medical use for moderate (non dealer?) quantities of cannabis should be treated more leniently.

Anything else you need clarification about?

naffeville wrote:
I've heard somewhere that it is pleasant to smoke, but being a pot nerd is a waste of time, bit like commenting on the echo, oh hang on, wheres the razor blade?

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:
"Anecdotally, my friend who suffers from a panic disorder had his door kicked in by heavy handed policemen. Suspicion of growing, when he just had a few bags. He was using cannabis to reduce symptoms"

you might want to let your friend know there's a strong link between substance abuse and panic disorders.

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:
"Anecdotally, my friend who suffers from a panic disorder had his door kicked in by heavy handed policemen. Suspicion of growing, when he just had a few bags. He was using cannabis to reduce symptoms"

you might want to let your friend know there's a strong link between substance abuse and panic disorders.

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:
"Anecdotally, my friend who suffers from a panic disorder had his door kicked in by heavy handed policemen. Suspicion of growing, when he just had a few bags. He was using cannabis to reduce symptoms"

you might want to let your friend know there's a strong link between substance abuse and panic disorders.

There is a difference between a user and abuser.

In countries that regulate cannabis, the flower buds are prescribed to people with psychological disorders as the CBD in cannabis is an anti psychotic. You may want to do some research. After all anti depressants made him suicidal. He finds after using cannabis indica he feels no panic or anxiety and is able to eat and sleep. Why are you in support of the state depriving him of such a medicine?

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese

l wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:
"Anecdotally, my friend who suffers from a panic disorder had his door kicked in by heavy handed policemen. Suspicion of growing, when he just had a few bags. He was using cannabis to reduce symptoms"

you might want to let your friend know there's a strong link between substance abuse and panic disorders.

There is a difference between a user and abuser.

In countries that regulate cannabis, the flower buds are prescribed to people with psychological disorders as the CBD in cannabis is an anti psychotic. You may want to do some research. After all anti depressants made him suicidal. He finds after using cannabis indica he feels no panic or anxiety and is able to eat and sleep. Why are you in support of the state depriving him of such a medicine?

was he an (ab)user before the panic disorder started...if i were a betting man (which i am) i would guess he was?

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

jayman wrote:

DEBT*COLLECTOR wrote:

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

What are we grasses over a plant smoking person. Grow up

yep..

Scum

jayman wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese

l wrote:

jayman wrote:

DEBT*COLLECTOR wrote:

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

What are we grasses over a plant smoking person. Grow up

yep..

Scum

oh im a scum bag?

i have contributed to this society in ways you couldn't fathom,

oh, and I now work in mental health rehabilitation.

I accept the intended insult of 'scum' as a compliment from anyone who takes illegal drugs.

I suppose you think that its some sort of scum bag honour code by not talking to the police that is universally accepted. however there is not much that scares an ex soldier, especially a track suit wearing man-child with the life experiences of a toad and the world view of a toilet gobbing off on a micro news site about his misguided principles regarding a smelly mind altering drug that endows users with the charm and charisma of a limpet..

good night..

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

jayman wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese


l wrote:

jayman wrote:

DEBT*COLLECTOR wrote:

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

What are we grasses over a plant smoking person. Grow up

yep..

Scum

oh im a scum bag?

i have contributed to this society in ways you couldn't fathom,

oh, and I now work in mental health rehabilitation.

I accept the intended insult of 'scum' as a compliment from anyone who takes illegal drugs.

I suppose you think that its some sort of scum bag honour code by not talking to the police that is universally accepted. however there is not much that scares an ex soldier, especially a track suit wearing man-child with the life experiences of a toad and the world view of a toilet gobbing off on a micro news site about his misguided principles regarding a smelly mind altering drug that endows users with the charm and charisma of a limpet..

good night..

Didnt use the term scumbag, just scum.
For waste police time for a bad smell, distracting them from real crimes like Rape, Assault and Theft, for a plant proven to be safer than alcohol and aspirin. Well done. Real credit to your community.

Nebs wrote:

jayman wrote: well done police, keep up the good work. remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

From what I read on here about how wonderful and harmless it is, I'm surprised that the government don't just legalise it but also make it compulsory.

jayman wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese

l wrote:

jayman wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese



l wrote:

jayman wrote:

DEBT*COLLECTOR wrote:

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

What are we grasses over a plant smoking person. Grow up

yep..

Scum

oh im a scum bag?

i have contributed to this society in ways you couldn't fathom,

oh, and I now work in mental health rehabilitation.

I accept the intended insult of 'scum' as a compliment from anyone who takes illegal drugs.

I suppose you think that its some sort of scum bag honour code by not talking to the police that is universally accepted. however there is not much that scares an ex soldier, especially a track suit wearing man-child with the life experiences of a toad and the world view of a toilet gobbing off on a micro news site about his misguided principles regarding a smelly mind altering drug that endows users with the charm and charisma of a limpet..

good night..

Didnt use the term scumbag, just scum.
For waste police time for a bad smell, distracting them from real crimes like Rape, Assault and Theft, for a plant proven to be safer than alcohol and aspirin. Well done. Real credit to your community.

'scum bag' was a paraphrase,

I did however phrase you correctly in the post.

"I accept the intended insult of 'scum' as a compliment from anyone who takes illegal drugs."

Nebs wrote:

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

From what I read on here about how wonderful and harmless it is, I'm surprised that the government don't just legalise it but also make it compulsory.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
As Socrates and Martin Luther King said "there is a moral obligation to obey just laws but people also have a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws". This is why prohibition does not and will never work. Any law that prohibits people from having the odd glass of wine or the odd smoke of cannabis is unjust.

Gina the weaner wrote:
Interesting to read the comment of J A Rank at 6.24pm.

I see that the idiot formerly posting as 'E-Types..' is now 'E-Type' (or is that another impostor?...LOL).

Maybe E-Types.. would have done well to remember the saying "Be careful what you wish for".

J Arthur Rank wrote:
For info of E-Types. and Eric Whim as both are commenting here:

Following my meeting with the senior editorial staff at the Echo yesterday a number of people will find that their accounts have been suspended. Some of these will be multiple registrations. All of those suspended will have allegedly been in breach of the website’s T&Cs. Please don’t shoot the messenger, I have merely passed on the concerns raised by some people in posts earlier in the week. It was those responsible for the administration of the site who have invoked these sanctions.
I did mention the concerns over journalistic standards as they relate to spelling and basic use of grammar. Whilst no guarantees were forthcoming it was acknowledged that on occasions the reports do fall short of the standard the publication aim for. My comments were well received and I believe efforts will be made to improve the presentation of stories.
The point was made to me that the comments section is a forum for readers of the on-line version of the newspaper to “have their say” and it serves no real commercial purpose for the company. Readers are at liberty to use the section providing their comments do not breach the rules and nobody should take what are often ‘tongue in cheek’ comments too seriously.
Comments considered inappropriate and/or in breach of the T&Cs will be removed and the contributor’s continued registration reviewed. However, it is not viable to permanently monitor the site so there may be some delay in the removal of offending comments.

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

Nebs wrote:

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

From what I read on here about how wonderful and harmless it is, I'm surprised that the government don't just legalise it but also make it compulsory.

The reasons why cannabis is still illegal -

Vested Interest
The pressure from alcohol lobby
GW Pharma
Cowardly Politicians
Personal Prejudices
Greed
Money made from prohibition
Certain jobs secured with prohibition in place

Cannabis isnt illegal because its harmful, by that logic, alcohol and tobacco would be class A drugs and coffee would be sold by bootleggers.
Cannabis being against the law has nothing to do with -

Harm reduction
Science
Evidence
Expert Advice
Public opinion
To see drug dealers out of business long term
Or to prevent under age use

Many reasons why cannabis was first prohibited -

Racism
Control
Money
Personal prejudices
The financial threat of Hemp Production
And more...


Cannabis isnt harmless, but your fooling yourself if you think whats why its illegal. Man has been using this plant for over 10,000 years non problematically. This unjust prohibition is just a blip in time.

J Arthur Rank wrote:
For info of E-Types. and Eric Whim as both are commenting here:

Following my meeting with the senior editorial staff at the Echo yesterday a number of people will find that their accounts have been suspended. Some of these will be multiple registrations. All of those suspended will have allegedly been in breach of the website’s T&Cs. Please don’t shoot the messenger, I have merely passed on the concerns raised by some people in posts earlier in the week. It was those responsible for the administration of the site who have invoked these sanctions.
I did mention the concerns over journalistic standards as they relate to spelling and basic use of grammar. Whilst no guarantees were forthcoming it was acknowledged that on occasions the reports do fall short of the standard the publication aim for. My comments were well received and I believe efforts will be made to improve the presentation of stories.
The point was made to me that the comments section is a forum for readers of the on-line version of the newspaper to “have their say” and it serves no real commercial purpose for the company. Readers are at liberty to use the section providing their comments do not breach the rules and nobody should take what are often ‘tongue in cheek’ comments too seriously.
Comments considered inappropriate and/or in breach of the T&Cs will be removed and the contributor’s continued registration reviewed. However, it is not viable to permanently monitor the site so there may be some delay in the removal of offending comments.

Nebs wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese

l wrote:

Nebs wrote:

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

From what I read on here about how wonderful and harmless it is, I'm surprised that the government don't just legalise it but also make it compulsory.

The reasons why cannabis is still illegal -

Vested Interest
The pressure from alcohol lobby
GW Pharma
Cowardly Politicians
Personal Prejudices
Greed
Money made from prohibition
Certain jobs secured with prohibition in place

Cannabis isnt illegal because its harmful, by that logic, alcohol and tobacco would be class A drugs and coffee would be sold by bootleggers.
Cannabis being against the law has nothing to do with -

Harm reduction
Science
Evidence
Expert Advice
Public opinion
To see drug dealers out of business long term
Or to prevent under age use

Many reasons why cannabis was first prohibited -

Racism
Control
Money
Personal prejudices
The financial threat of Hemp Production
And more...


Cannabis isnt harmless, but your fooling yourself if you think whats why its illegal. Man has been using this plant for over 10,000 years non problematically. This unjust prohibition is just a blip in time.

Thanks. What harm does it do, and what evidence do you have for statement that it isn't harmless.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
Take no notice of old Asbo, life must have treated him harshly, maybe he was bullied at school, maybe mummy didn't cuddle him enough when he was young. Whatever the problem it has left him a bitter twisted individual who can't help slagging off anything and everything he doesn't understand, bless him.

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote: Take no notice of old Asbo, life must have treated him harshly, maybe he was bullied at school, maybe mummy didn't cuddle him enough when he was young. Whatever the problem it has left him a bitter twisted individual who can't help slagging off anything and everything he doesn't understand, bless him.

our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence - yeah. got that truthy?

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:
lol...thought it was you doing the escaping here?

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Nebs wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese


l wrote:

Nebs wrote:

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

From what I read on here about how wonderful and harmless it is, I'm surprised that the government don't just legalise it but also make it compulsory.

The reasons why cannabis is still illegal -

Vested Interest
The pressure from alcohol lobby
GW Pharma
Cowardly Politicians
Personal Prejudices
Greed
Money made from prohibition
Certain jobs secured with prohibition in place

Cannabis isnt illegal because its harmful, by that logic, alcohol and tobacco would be class A drugs and coffee would be sold by bootleggers.
Cannabis being against the law has nothing to do with -

Harm reduction
Science
Evidence
Expert Advice
Public opinion
To see drug dealers out of business long term
Or to prevent under age use

Many reasons why cannabis was first prohibited -

Racism
Control
Money
Personal prejudices
The financial threat of Hemp Production
And more...


Cannabis isnt harmless, but your fooling yourself if you think whats why its illegal. Man has been using this plant for over 10,000 years non problematically. This unjust prohibition is just a blip in time.

Thanks. What harm does it do, and what evidence do you have for statement that it isn't harmless.

there is no injustice and there is no prohibition. put down the peter reynolds' lexicon. it has been illegal all of your puff. it was illegal when you first tried it and nothing's changed.

Nebs wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese

l wrote:

Nebs wrote:

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

From what I read on here about how wonderful and harmless it is, I'm surprised that the government don't just legalise it but also make it compulsory.

The reasons why cannabis is still illegal -

Vested Interest
The pressure from alcohol lobby
GW Pharma
Cowardly Politicians
Personal Prejudices
Greed
Money made from prohibition
Certain jobs secured with prohibition in place

Cannabis isnt illegal because its harmful, by that logic, alcohol and tobacco would be class A drugs and coffee would be sold by bootleggers.
Cannabis being against the law has nothing to do with -

Harm reduction
Science
Evidence
Expert Advice
Public opinion
To see drug dealers out of business long term
Or to prevent under age use

Many reasons why cannabis was first prohibited -

Racism
Control
Money
Personal prejudices
The financial threat of Hemp Production
And more...


Cannabis isnt harmless, but your fooling yourself if you think whats why its illegal. Man has been using this plant for over 10,000 years non problematically. This unjust prohibition is just a blip in time.

Thanks. What harm does it do, and what evidence do you have for statement that it isn't harmless.

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Nebs wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese



l wrote:

Nebs wrote:

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

From what I read on here about how wonderful and harmless it is, I'm surprised that the government don't just legalise it but also make it compulsory.

The reasons why cannabis is still illegal -

Vested Interest
The pressure from alcohol lobby
GW Pharma
Cowardly Politicians
Personal Prejudices
Greed
Money made from prohibition
Certain jobs secured with prohibition in place

Cannabis isnt illegal because its harmful, by that logic, alcohol and tobacco would be class A drugs and coffee would be sold by bootleggers.
Cannabis being against the law has nothing to do with -

Harm reduction
Science
Evidence
Expert Advice
Public opinion
To see drug dealers out of business long term
Or to prevent under age use

Many reasons why cannabis was first prohibited -

Racism
Control
Money
Personal prejudices
The financial threat of Hemp Production
And more...


Cannabis isnt harmless, but your fooling yourself if you think whats why its illegal. Man has been using this plant for over 10,000 years non problematically. This unjust prohibition is just a blip in time.

Thanks. What harm does it do, and what evidence do you have for statement that it isn't harmless.

there is no injustice and there is no prohibition. put down the peter reynolds' lexicon. it has been illegal all of your puff. it was illegal when you first tried it and nothing's changed.

Dont lie to yourself, for most of human history cannabis has been completely legal. It’s not a recently discovered plant, nor is it a long standing law. Cannabis has been illegal for less than 1% of the time that it’s been in use. Its known uses go back further than 7000 B.C.

If you think cannabis is illegal because it has a potential for harm then your fooling yourself to be honest.

In fact the reason it became illegal in the first place wasnt anything to do with its effects. It was all about hemp production. Then Anslinger gave birth to reefermadness and from then on the propaganda hasnt stopped.

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

Nebs wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese


l wrote:

Nebs wrote:

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

From what I read on here about how wonderful and harmless it is, I'm surprised that the government don't just legalise it but also make it compulsory.

The reasons why cannabis is still illegal -

Vested Interest
The pressure from alcohol lobby
GW Pharma
Cowardly Politicians
Personal Prejudices
Greed
Money made from prohibition
Certain jobs secured with prohibition in place

Cannabis isnt illegal because its harmful, by that logic, alcohol and tobacco would be class A drugs and coffee would be sold by bootleggers.
Cannabis being against the law has nothing to do with -

Harm reduction
Science
Evidence
Expert Advice
Public opinion
To see drug dealers out of business long term
Or to prevent under age use

Many reasons why cannabis was first prohibited -

Racism
Control
Money
Personal prejudices
The financial threat of Hemp Production
And more...


Cannabis isnt harmless, but your fooling yourself if you think whats why its illegal. Man has been using this plant for over 10,000 years non problematically. This unjust prohibition is just a blip in time.

Thanks. What harm does it do, and what evidence do you have for statement that it isn't harmless.

Well of course it isnt harmless. But when you compare the harms to other legal drugs including pharmaceuticals, you will see that cannabis is the least harmful. The harms mostly come from people adding tobacco in with their cannabis. But the biggest harm in my opinion is when kids use cannabis. To put it in perspective, alcohol and certain life experiences can cause more harm to the developing brain than cannabis, yet anything that could cause a change in a young persons brain should be avoided. So its not harmless, but it is the safest recreational drug and medicine on earth. The other harms surrounding cannabis are down to the fact criminals control the market. Gang violence, contamination, a lack in CBD (the anti psychotic chemical found in cannabis) and so on. What really annoys me is that with criminals controlling cannabis, kids find it very easy to obtain. So when prohibitionists assume people like me wanting legal regulation comes from a selfish place is simply wrong. Its about harm reduction, not pretending that everything is fine and prohibition works. If it was working then why are criminals able to become rich from selling cannabis? Why do children find cannabis easier to obtain than alcohol and tobacco (even with those legal drugs so poorly regulated). Its a fail which places the vulnerable in a dangerous situation. Lets stop pretending millions of people dont use cannabis, because they do. The demand doesnt go away because its illegal.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
What the people want the people get.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
Asprin causes stomach ulcers, Paracetomol damages internal organs and kills dozens every year. Peanut butter kills. Glass doors kill. Horse riding kills. Bees kill. But no-one has ever died from an overdose of Cannabis in the history of the earth. Why am I telling you this? You've been told this dozens of times but you are incapable of learning that simple fact. Give it up SSSD, he really isn't worth it.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
Asprin causes stomach ulcers, Paracetomol damages internal organs and kills dozens every year. Peanut butter kills. Glass doors kill. Horse riding kills. Bees kill. But no-one has ever died from an overdose of Cannabis in the history of the earth. Why am I telling you this? You've been told this dozens of times but you are incapable of learning that simple fact. Give it up SSSD, he really isn't worth it.

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese

l wrote:

Nebs wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese



l wrote:

Nebs wrote:

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

From what I read on here about how wonderful and harmless it is, I'm surprised that the government don't just legalise it but also make it compulsory.

The reasons why cannabis is still illegal -

Vested Interest
The pressure from alcohol lobby
GW Pharma
Cowardly Politicians
Personal Prejudices
Greed
Money made from prohibition
Certain jobs secured with prohibition in place

Cannabis isnt illegal because its harmful, by that logic, alcohol and tobacco would be class A drugs and coffee would be sold by bootleggers.
Cannabis being against the law has nothing to do with -

Harm reduction
Science
Evidence
Expert Advice
Public opinion
To see drug dealers out of business long term
Or to prevent under age use

Many reasons why cannabis was first prohibited -

Racism
Control
Money
Personal prejudices
The financial threat of Hemp Production
And more...


Cannabis isnt harmless, but your fooling yourself if you think whats why its illegal. Man has been using this plant for over 10,000 years non problematically. This unjust prohibition is just a blip in time.

Thanks. What harm does it do, and what evidence do you have for statement that it isn't harmless.

Well of course it isnt harmless. But when you compare the harms to other legal drugs including pharmaceuticals, you will see that cannabis is the least harmful. The harms mostly come from people adding tobacco in with their cannabis. But the biggest harm in my opinion is when kids use cannabis. To put it in perspective, alcohol and certain life experiences can cause more harm to the developing brain than cannabis, yet anything that could cause a change in a young persons brain should be avoided. So its not harmless, but it is the safest recreational drug and medicine on earth. The other harms surrounding cannabis are down to the fact criminals control the market. Gang violence, contamination, a lack in CBD (the anti psychotic chemical found in cannabis) and so on. What really annoys me is that with criminals controlling cannabis, kids find it very easy to obtain. So when prohibitionists assume people like me wanting legal regulation comes from a selfish place is simply wrong. Its about harm reduction, not pretending that everything is fine and prohibition works. If it was working then why are criminals able to become rich from selling cannabis? Why do children find cannabis easier to obtain than alcohol and tobacco (even with those legal drugs so poorly regulated). Its a fail which places the vulnerable in a dangerous situation. Lets stop pretending millions of people dont use cannabis, because they do. The demand doesnt go away because its illegal.

i thought your strapline was "less harmful than aspirin". well aspirin does you some good believe it or not. i'm guessing you'll dispute that too. cue 17 paragraphs of verbal diarrhea

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
Asprin causes stomach ulcers, Paracetomol damages internal organs and kills dozens every year. Peanut butter kills. Glass doors kill. Horse riding kills. Bees kill. But no-one has ever died from an overdose of Cannabis in the history of the earth. Why am I telling you this? You've been told this dozens of times but you are incapable of learning that simple fact. Give it up SSSD, he really isn't worth it.

The Soldier in White wrote:

J Arthur Rank wrote:
For info of E-Types. and Eric Whim as both are commenting here:

Following my meeting with the senior editorial staff at the Echo yesterday a number of people will find that their accounts have been suspended. Some of these will be multiple registrations. All of those suspended will have allegedly been in breach of the website’s T&Cs. Please don’t shoot the messenger, I have merely passed on the concerns raised by some people in posts earlier in the week. It was those responsible for the administration of the site who have invoked these sanctions.
I did mention the concerns over journalistic standards as they relate to spelling and basic use of grammar. Whilst no guarantees were forthcoming it was acknowledged that on occasions the reports do fall short of the standard the publication aim for. My comments were well received and I believe efforts will be made to improve the presentation of stories.
The point was made to me that the comments section is a forum for readers of the on-line version of the newspaper to “have their say” and it serves no real commercial purpose for the company. Readers are at liberty to use the section providing their comments do not breach the rules and nobody should take what are often ‘tongue in cheek’ comments too seriously.
Comments considered inappropriate and/or in breach of the T&Cs will be removed and the contributor’s continued registration reviewed. However, it is not viable to permanently monitor the site so there may be some delay in the removal of offending comments.

Well done J.Arthur, you have certainly lived up to your name. I notice that at least one of those whos account was closed has simply reregistered and is now using these columns to practice his witchcraft (Sic exsisto is per totus idiots) under the name of E -Type. Goodness knows what his priest will have to say about that !
Perhaps we shall also see the return of our beloved master of repartee ,Stropmag , When he has tired of soaking up the Carribean sun.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote: Take no notice of old Asbo, life must have treated him harshly, maybe he was bullied at school, maybe mummy didn't cuddle him enough when he was young. Whatever the problem it has left him a bitter twisted individual who can't help slagging off anything and everything he doesn't understand, bless him.

our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence - yeah. got that truthy?

Ah, I upset him, sorry Asbo. Btw your life might be empty and mundane but mine certainly isn't, if only you knew what I've been doing over the last month, happy days.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:
lol...thought it was you doing the escaping here?

What have I got to escape from? You are almost as crazy as ET, you're not his brother are you?

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
What the people want the people get.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
Asprin causes stomach ulcers, Paracetomol damages internal organs and kills dozens every year. Peanut butter kills. Glass doors kill. Horse riding kills. Bees kill. But no-one has ever died from an overdose of Cannabis in the history of the earth. Why am I telling you this? You've been told this dozens of times but you are incapable of learning that simple fact. Give it up SSSD, he really isn't worth it.

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
Asprin causes stomach ulcers, Paracetomol damages internal organs and kills dozens every year. Peanut butter kills. Glass doors kill. Horse riding kills. Bees kill. But no-one has ever died from an overdose of Cannabis in the history of the earth. Why am I telling you this? You've been told this dozens of times but you are incapable of learning that simple fact. Give it up SSSD, he really isn't worth it.

Boredom kills... the thread and you have murdered many with your sniffling boring chat about not being able to get off your head and escape your humdrum life...

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote: Take no notice of old Asbo, life must have treated him harshly, maybe he was bullied at school, maybe mummy didn't cuddle him enough when he was young. Whatever the problem it has left him a bitter twisted individual who can't help slagging off anything and everything he doesn't understand, bless him.

our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence - yeah. got that truthy?

Ah, I upset him, sorry Asbo. Btw your life might be empty and mundane but mine certainly isn't, if only you knew what I've been doing over the last month, happy days.

Self-abuse is no boasting matter...

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese


l wrote:

Nebs wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese




l wrote:

Nebs wrote:

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

From what I read on here about how wonderful and harmless it is, I'm surprised that the government don't just legalise it but also make it compulsory.

The reasons why cannabis is still illegal -

Vested Interest
The pressure from alcohol lobby
GW Pharma
Cowardly Politicians
Personal Prejudices
Greed
Money made from prohibition
Certain jobs secured with prohibition in place

Cannabis isnt illegal because its harmful, by that logic, alcohol and tobacco would be class A drugs and coffee would be sold by bootleggers.
Cannabis being against the law has nothing to do with -

Harm reduction
Science
Evidence
Expert Advice
Public opinion
To see drug dealers out of business long term
Or to prevent under age use

Many reasons why cannabis was first prohibited -

Racism
Control
Money
Personal prejudices
The financial threat of Hemp Production
And more...


Cannabis isnt harmless, but your fooling yourself if you think whats why its illegal. Man has been using this plant for over 10,000 years non problematically. This unjust prohibition is just a blip in time.

Thanks. What harm does it do, and what evidence do you have for statement that it isn't harmless.

Well of course it isnt harmless. But when you compare the harms to other legal drugs including pharmaceuticals, you will see that cannabis is the least harmful. The harms mostly come from people adding tobacco in with their cannabis. But the biggest harm in my opinion is when kids use cannabis. To put it in perspective, alcohol and certain life experiences can cause more harm to the developing brain than cannabis, yet anything that could cause a change in a young persons brain should be avoided. So its not harmless, but it is the safest recreational drug and medicine on earth. The other harms surrounding cannabis are down to the fact criminals control the market. Gang violence, contamination, a lack in CBD (the anti psychotic chemical found in cannabis) and so on. What really annoys me is that with criminals controlling cannabis, kids find it very easy to obtain. So when prohibitionists assume people like me wanting legal regulation comes from a selfish place is simply wrong. Its about harm reduction, not pretending that everything is fine and prohibition works. If it was working then why are criminals able to become rich from selling cannabis? Why do children find cannabis easier to obtain than alcohol and tobacco (even with those legal drugs so poorly regulated). Its a fail which places the vulnerable in a dangerous situation. Lets stop pretending millions of people dont use cannabis, because they do. The demand doesnt go away because its illegal.

i thought your strapline was "less harmful than aspirin". well aspirin does you some good believe it or not. i'm guessing you'll dispute that too. cue 17 paragraphs of verbal diarrhea

Cannabis does more good than aspirin. As far as i know, aspirin doesnt have anti psychotic and anti cancer properties. Cannabis does. Aspirin isnt as versatile as cannabis, meaning its just a medicine. You cannot create fuel, textiles, building materials and so on with aspirin. It seems your against cannabis, but for no particular reason. Keep supporting a policy which gifts criminals the control over cannabis, a policy born out of fear, racism and greed, and only still exists because of cowardly politicians and their vested interest. More interested in protecting alcohol companies than the young and vulnerable.

jayman wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese

l wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese



l wrote:

Nebs wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese





l wrote:

Nebs wrote:

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

From what I read on here about how wonderful and harmless it is, I'm surprised that the government don't just legalise it but also make it compulsory.

The reasons why cannabis is still illegal -

Vested Interest
The pressure from alcohol lobby
GW Pharma
Cowardly Politicians
Personal Prejudices
Greed
Money made from prohibition
Certain jobs secured with prohibition in place

Cannabis isnt illegal because its harmful, by that logic, alcohol and tobacco would be class A drugs and coffee would be sold by bootleggers.
Cannabis being against the law has nothing to do with -

Harm reduction
Science
Evidence
Expert Advice
Public opinion
To see drug dealers out of business long term
Or to prevent under age use

Many reasons why cannabis was first prohibited -

Racism
Control
Money
Personal prejudices
The financial threat of Hemp Production
And more...


Cannabis isnt harmless, but your fooling yourself if you think whats why its illegal. Man has been using this plant for over 10,000 years non problematically. This unjust prohibition is just a blip in time.

Thanks. What harm does it do, and what evidence do you have for statement that it isn't harmless.

Well of course it isnt harmless. But when you compare the harms to other legal drugs including pharmaceuticals, you will see that cannabis is the least harmful. The harms mostly come from people adding tobacco in with their cannabis. But the biggest harm in my opinion is when kids use cannabis. To put it in perspective, alcohol and certain life experiences can cause more harm to the developing brain than cannabis, yet anything that could cause a change in a young persons brain should be avoided. So its not harmless, but it is the safest recreational drug and medicine on earth. The other harms surrounding cannabis are down to the fact criminals control the market. Gang violence, contamination, a lack in CBD (the anti psychotic chemical found in cannabis) and so on. What really annoys me is that with criminals controlling cannabis, kids find it very easy to obtain. So when prohibitionists assume people like me wanting legal regulation comes from a selfish place is simply wrong. Its about harm reduction, not pretending that everything is fine and prohibition works. If it was working then why are criminals able to become rich from selling cannabis? Why do children find cannabis easier to obtain than alcohol and tobacco (even with those legal drugs so poorly regulated). Its a fail which places the vulnerable in a dangerous situation. Lets stop pretending millions of people dont use cannabis, because they do. The demand doesnt go away because its illegal.

i thought your strapline was "less harmful than aspirin". well aspirin does you some good believe it or not. i'm guessing you'll dispute that too. cue 17 paragraphs of verbal diarrhea

Cannabis does more good than aspirin. As far as i know, aspirin doesnt have anti psychotic and anti cancer properties. Cannabis does. Aspirin isnt as versatile as cannabis, meaning its just a medicine. You cannot create fuel, textiles, building materials and so on with aspirin. It seems your against cannabis, but for no particular reason. Keep supporting a policy which gifts criminals the control over cannabis, a policy born out of fear, racism and greed, and only still exists because of cowardly politicians and their vested interest. More interested in protecting alcohol companies than the young and vulnerable.

'anti cancer' 'anti psychotic' are you fu-c-king serious!!!

cancer is a fault in the reproduction in cells, there are millions on trigger factors in this fault and usually start due to sustained genetic damage or cellular exposure to carcinogenic substances, cannabis 'is' a carcinogenic substance!!!!

cancer is an anti-psychotic?

you deluded fu-ckwit, no! it is not.

I WORK IN ADULT MENTAL HEALTH.
how about you stick to offering advice about the best grinder to use or how to make a spliff and leave the adult chit chat to people who know what they are talking about..

that's the most dangerous and misinformed comment I have read in a long time!!

jayman wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese l wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese l wrote:

Nebs wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese l wrote:

Nebs wrote:

jayman wrote: well done police, keep up the good work. remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

From what I read on here about how wonderful and harmless it is, I'm surprised that the government don't just legalise it but also make it compulsory.

The reasons why cannabis is still illegal - Vested Interest The pressure from alcohol lobby GW Pharma Cowardly Politicians Personal Prejudices Greed Money made from prohibition Certain jobs secured with prohibition in place Cannabis isnt illegal because its harmful, by that logic, alcohol and tobacco would be class A drugs and coffee would be sold by bootleggers. Cannabis being against the law has nothing to do with - Harm reduction Science Evidence Expert Advice Public opinion To see drug dealers out of business long term Or to prevent under age use Many reasons why cannabis was first prohibited - Racism Control Money Personal prejudices The financial threat of Hemp Production And more... Cannabis isnt harmless, but your fooling yourself if you think whats why its illegal. Man has been using this plant for over 10,000 years non problematically. This unjust prohibition is just a blip in time.

Thanks. What harm does it do, and what evidence do you have for statement that it isn't harmless.

Well of course it isnt harmless. But when you compare the harms to other legal drugs including pharmaceuticals, you will see that cannabis is the least harmful. The harms mostly come from people adding tobacco in with their cannabis. But the biggest harm in my opinion is when kids use cannabis. To put it in perspective, alcohol and certain life experiences can cause more harm to the developing brain than cannabis, yet anything that could cause a change in a young persons brain should be avoided. So its not harmless, but it is the safest recreational drug and medicine on earth. The other harms surrounding cannabis are down to the fact criminals control the market. Gang violence, contamination, a lack in CBD (the anti psychotic chemical found in cannabis) and so on. What really annoys me is that with criminals controlling cannabis, kids find it very easy to obtain. So when prohibitionists assume people like me wanting legal regulation comes from a selfish place is simply wrong. Its about harm reduction, not pretending that everything is fine and prohibition works. If it was working then why are criminals able to become rich from selling cannabis? Why do children find cannabis easier to obtain than alcohol and tobacco (even with those legal drugs so poorly regulated). Its a fail which places the vulnerable in a dangerous situation. Lets stop pretending millions of people dont use cannabis, because they do. The demand doesnt go away because its illegal.

i thought your strapline was "less harmful than aspirin". well aspirin does you some good believe it or not. i'm guessing you'll dispute that too. cue 17 paragraphs of verbal diarrhea

Cannabis does more good than aspirin. As far as i know, aspirin doesnt have anti psychotic and anti cancer properties. Cannabis does. Aspirin isnt as versatile as cannabis, meaning its just a medicine. You cannot create fuel, textiles, building materials and so on with aspirin. It seems your against cannabis, but for no particular reason. Keep supporting a policy which gifts criminals the control over cannabis, a policy born out of fear, racism and greed, and only still exists because of cowardly politicians and their vested interest. More interested in protecting alcohol companies than the young and vulnerable.

'anti cancer' 'anti psychotic' are you fu-c-king serious!!! cancer is a fault in the reproduction in cells, there are millions on trigger factors in this fault and usually start due to sustained genetic damage or cellular exposure to carcinogenic substances, cannabis 'is' a carcinogenic substance!!!! cancer is an anti-psychotic? you deluded fu-ckwit, no! it is not. I WORK IN ADULT MENTAL HEALTH. how about you stick to offering advice about the best grinder to use or how to make a spliff and leave the adult chit chat to people who know what they are talking about.. that's the most dangerous and misinformed comment I have read in a long time!!

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
Asprin causes stomach ulcers, Paracetomol damages internal organs and kills dozens every year. Peanut butter kills. Glass doors kill. Horse riding kills. Bees kill. But no-one has ever died from an overdose of Cannabis in the history of the earth. Why am I telling you this? You've been told this dozens of times but you are incapable of learning that simple fact. Give it up SSSD, he really isn't worth it.

Boredom kills... the thread and you have murdered many with your sniffling boring chat about not being able to get off your head and escape your humdrum life...

Another brainwashed prohibitionist?

Gina the weaner wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote: Take no notice of old Asbo, life must have treated him harshly, maybe he was bullied at school, maybe mummy didn't cuddle him enough when he was young. Whatever the problem it has left him a bitter twisted individual who can't help slagging off anything and everything he doesn't understand, bless him.

our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence - yeah. got that truthy?

Ah, I upset him, sorry Asbo. Btw your life might be empty and mundane but mine certainly isn't, if only you knew what I've been doing over the last month, happy days.

Self-abuse is no boasting matter...

At last! Speaking about something he should know about.

E -Type wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese l wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote: Asprin causes stomach ulcers, Paracetomol damages internal organs and kills dozens every year. Peanut butter kills. Glass doors kill. Horse riding kills. Bees kill. But no-one has ever died from an overdose of Cannabis in the history of the earth. Why am I telling you this? You've been told this dozens of times but you are incapable of learning that simple fact. Give it up SSSD, he really isn't worth it.

Boredom kills... the thread and you have murdered many with your sniffling boring chat about not being able to get off your head and escape your humdrum life...

Another brainwashed prohibitionist?

Err, no...one who has made his own mind up based on his own opinion of things...thats alright isn't it?

jayman wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese

l wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese



l wrote:

Nebs wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese





l wrote:

Nebs wrote:

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

From what I read on here about how wonderful and harmless it is, I'm surprised that the government don't just legalise it but also make it compulsory.

The reasons why cannabis is still illegal -

Vested Interest
The pressure from alcohol lobby
GW Pharma
Cowardly Politicians
Personal Prejudices
Greed
Money made from prohibition
Certain jobs secured with prohibition in place

Cannabis isnt illegal because its harmful, by that logic, alcohol and tobacco would be class A drugs and coffee would be sold by bootleggers.
Cannabis being against the law has nothing to do with -

Harm reduction
Science
Evidence
Expert Advice
Public opinion
To see drug dealers out of business long term
Or to prevent under age use

Many reasons why cannabis was first prohibited -

Racism
Control
Money
Personal prejudices
The financial threat of Hemp Production
And more...


Cannabis isnt harmless, but your fooling yourself if you think whats why its illegal. Man has been using this plant for over 10,000 years non problematically. This unjust prohibition is just a blip in time.

Thanks. What harm does it do, and what evidence do you have for statement that it isn't harmless.

Well of course it isnt harmless. But when you compare the harms to other legal drugs including pharmaceuticals, you will see that cannabis is the least harmful. The harms mostly come from people adding tobacco in with their cannabis. But the biggest harm in my opinion is when kids use cannabis. To put it in perspective, alcohol and certain life experiences can cause more harm to the developing brain than cannabis, yet anything that could cause a change in a young persons brain should be avoided. So its not harmless, but it is the safest recreational drug and medicine on earth. The other harms surrounding cannabis are down to the fact criminals control the market. Gang violence, contamination, a lack in CBD (the anti psychotic chemical found in cannabis) and so on. What really annoys me is that with criminals controlling cannabis, kids find it very easy to obtain. So when prohibitionists assume people like me wanting legal regulation comes from a selfish place is simply wrong. Its about harm reduction, not pretending that everything is fine and prohibition works. If it was working then why are criminals able to become rich from selling cannabis? Why do children find cannabis easier to obtain than alcohol and tobacco (even with those legal drugs so poorly regulated). Its a fail which places the vulnerable in a dangerous situation. Lets stop pretending millions of people dont use cannabis, because they do. The demand doesnt go away because its illegal.

i thought your strapline was "less harmful than aspirin". well aspirin does you some good believe it or not. i'm guessing you'll dispute that too. cue 17 paragraphs of verbal diarrhea

Cannabis does more good than aspirin. As far as i know, aspirin doesnt have anti psychotic and anti cancer properties. Cannabis does. Aspirin isnt as versatile as cannabis, meaning its just a medicine. You cannot create fuel, textiles, building materials and so on with aspirin. It seems your against cannabis, but for no particular reason. Keep supporting a policy which gifts criminals the control over cannabis, a policy born out of fear, racism and greed, and only still exists because of cowardly politicians and their vested interest. More interested in protecting alcohol companies than the young and vulnerable.

'anti cancer' 'anti psychotic' are you fu-c-king serious!!!

cancer is a fault in the reproduction in cells, there are millions on trigger factors in this fault and usually start due to sustained genetic damage or cellular exposure to carcinogenic substances, cannabis 'is' a carcinogenic substance!!!!

cancer is an anti-psychotic?

you deluded fu-ckwit, no! it is not.

I WORK IN ADULT MENTAL HEALTH.
how about you stick to offering advice about the best grinder to use or how to make a spliff and leave the adult chit chat to people who know what they are talking about..

that's the most dangerous and misinformed comment I have read in a long time!!

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

jayman wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese l wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese l wrote:

Nebs wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese l wrote:

Nebs wrote:

jayman wrote: well done police, keep up the good work. remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

From what I read on here about how wonderful and harmless it is, I'm surprised that the government don't just legalise it but also make it compulsory.

The reasons why cannabis is still illegal - Vested Interest The pressure from alcohol lobby GW Pharma Cowardly Politicians Personal Prejudices Greed Money made from prohibition Certain jobs secured with prohibition in place Cannabis isnt illegal because its harmful, by that logic, alcohol and tobacco would be class A drugs and coffee would be sold by bootleggers. Cannabis being against the law has nothing to do with - Harm reduction Science Evidence Expert Advice Public opinion To see drug dealers out of business long term Or to prevent under age use Many reasons why cannabis was first prohibited - Racism Control Money Personal prejudices The financial threat of Hemp Production And more... Cannabis isnt harmless, but your fooling yourself if you think whats why its illegal. Man has been using this plant for over 10,000 years non problematically. This unjust prohibition is just a blip in time.

Thanks. What harm does it do, and what evidence do you have for statement that it isn't harmless.

Well of course it isnt harmless. But when you compare the harms to other legal drugs including pharmaceuticals, you will see that cannabis is the least harmful. The harms mostly come from people adding tobacco in with their cannabis. But the biggest harm in my opinion is when kids use cannabis. To put it in perspective, alcohol and certain life experiences can cause more harm to the developing brain than cannabis, yet anything that could cause a change in a young persons brain should be avoided. So its not harmless, but it is the safest recreational drug and medicine on earth. The other harms surrounding cannabis are down to the fact criminals control the market. Gang violence, contamination, a lack in CBD (the anti psychotic chemical found in cannabis) and so on. What really annoys me is that with criminals controlling cannabis, kids find it very easy to obtain. So when prohibitionists assume people like me wanting legal regulation comes from a selfish place is simply wrong. Its about harm reduction, not pretending that everything is fine and prohibition works. If it was working then why are criminals able to become rich from selling cannabis? Why do children find cannabis easier to obtain than alcohol and tobacco (even with those legal drugs so poorly regulated). Its a fail which places the vulnerable in a dangerous situation. Lets stop pretending millions of people dont use cannabis, because they do. The demand doesnt go away because its illegal.

i thought your strapline was "less harmful than aspirin". well aspirin does you some good believe it or not. i'm guessing you'll dispute that too. cue 17 paragraphs of verbal diarrhea

Cannabis does more good than aspirin. As far as i know, aspirin doesnt have anti psychotic and anti cancer properties. Cannabis does. Aspirin isnt as versatile as cannabis, meaning its just a medicine. You cannot create fuel, textiles, building materials and so on with aspirin. It seems your against cannabis, but for no particular reason. Keep supporting a policy which gifts criminals the control over cannabis, a policy born out of fear, racism and greed, and only still exists because of cowardly politicians and their vested interest. More interested in protecting alcohol companies than the young and vulnerable.

'anti cancer' 'anti psychotic' are you fu-c-king serious!!! cancer is a fault in the reproduction in cells, there are millions on trigger factors in this fault and usually start due to sustained genetic damage or cellular exposure to carcinogenic substances, cannabis 'is' a carcinogenic substance!!!! cancer is an anti-psychotic? you deluded fu-ckwit, no! it is not. I WORK IN ADULT MENTAL HEALTH. how about you stick to offering advice about the best grinder to use or how to make a spliff and leave the adult chit chat to people who know what they are talking about.. that's the most dangerous and misinformed comment I have read in a long time!!

Fool. Actually one of the two main ingredients in Cannabis IS an anti psychotic as you'd know if you actually knew anything about the subject. More proof that a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing (applies to ET too as on another story he's trying to tell me that man cannot travel through the Van Allen Belt and we didn't have the technology in the late sixties to send a man to the moon, laughable, we didn't just go once, we went half a dozen times).

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

E -Type wrote:

SuperSilverSourDiese l wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote: Asprin causes stomach ulcers, Paracetomol damages internal organs and kills dozens every year. Peanut butter kills. Glass doors kill. Horse riding kills. Bees kill. But no-one has ever died from an overdose of Cannabis in the history of the earth. Why am I telling you this? You've been told this dozens of times but you are incapable of learning that simple fact. Give it up SSSD, he really isn't worth it.

Boredom kills... the thread and you have murdered many with your sniffling boring chat about not being able to get off your head and escape your humdrum life...

Another brainwashed prohibitionist?

Err, no...one who has made his own mind up based on his own opinion of things...thats alright isn't it?

Thats a sign of low intelligence, you should make up your mind on the basis of the evidence, not "opinion", you clown. Still waiting for your apology about the VAB, late 60s technology, spacesuits etc etc, although as that depends on you having enough brains to find the real facts and being man enough to admit you are wrong I won't hold my breath.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
And what would you make of a poster who claims to be more intelligent than anyone else on here but makes childish assertions that schoolchidren can see straight through? The consequence of in-breeding and mental health issues perhaps?

E -Type wrote:

Gina the weaner wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote: Take no notice of old Asbo, life must have treated him harshly, maybe he was bullied at school, maybe mummy didn't cuddle him enough when he was young. Whatever the problem it has left him a bitter twisted individual who can't help slagging off anything and everything he doesn't understand, bless him.

our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence - yeah. got that truthy?

Ah, I upset him, sorry Asbo. Btw your life might be empty and mundane but mine certainly isn't, if only you knew what I've been doing over the last month, happy days.

Self-abuse is no boasting matter...

At last! Speaking about something he should know about.

Im sure he does and im sure you do too.

Must irk you to have the son of a ..stropmag account deleted, your main account and have to rely on your girly account to post off. LOL

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
Still waiting for your response Jayman. You may work in a mental health unit but you sure aint no Doctor or Nurse cos they wouldn't be so stupid as to make the assertions you have made without checking their facts first. Are you a cleaner, or maybe a patient? That would make more sense. Before you blast off again with your unsubstantiated claims, CHECK YOUR FACTS, I suggest 'Google Scholar' as a good place to start, where you will find that one of the two main active ingredients of cannabis is indeed an anti psychotic and there is also a growing body of evidence that some of the active ingredients of cannabis do indeed supress certain cancers (the name Guzman springs to mind) so CHECK YOUR FACTS before you put your size nines in it again.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
You truly are an imbecile ET, both the US and the USSR sent dozens of unmanned lunar orbiters and landers plus the US sent five manned lunar orbiters to the moon prior to Apollo 11 plus loads more have been there since and guess what? The technology was good enough to get them there, and back, and none of the astronauts or cosmonauts died from radiation sickness from their pass through the Van Allen Belt. You really are a classic example of a little bit of knowledge being a very, very dangerous thing. Ho ho ho!

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
Ha ha ha! The evidence is all there numb nuts. You truly are the most childish ignorant muppet it has ever been my misfortune to come across, just glad I don't live near you.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
PS are you now saying that both the Americans and the Russians faked all the dozens and dozens of lunar probes, orbiters, landers etc both before and after the A11 mission? Truly laughable! Go learn some REAL facts before you bother posting again.

stropmag. wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Gina the weaner wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote: Take no notice of old Asbo, life must have treated him harshly, maybe he was bullied at school, maybe mummy didn't cuddle him enough when he was young. Whatever the problem it has left him a bitter twisted individual who can't help slagging off anything and everything he doesn't understand, bless him.

our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence - yeah. got that truthy?

Ah, I upset him, sorry Asbo. Btw your life might be empty and mundane but mine certainly isn't, if only you knew what I've been doing over the last month, happy days.

Self-abuse is no boasting matter...

At last! Speaking about something he should know about.

Im sure he does and im sure you do too.

Must irk you to have the son of a ..stropmag account deleted, your main account and have to rely on your girly account to post off. LOL

Ah! E -Type, you seek to have changed your name whilst I've been on vacation. I'm not sure what you mean about my son's account having been deleted. First he's heard of it!

I see you now claim to be an authority on space travel. I guess you have a head start on us mere Earthlings with your Pavee background, your ancestors having arrived from some distant galaxy. Or is TWP closer to the truth when he says you are an imbecile?

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
High five Stropmag. Actually it was ET who had his account stopped, hence his new name, whilst I had my old one reinstated because ET had made an "unjustifiable" complaint about me. And if ET continues with his rudeness he'll get cancelled again, ha ha!
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Do you want a laugh? On the "Rector publishes book" story he claims that Neil Armstrong was moving the same as he would do on earth ..."Strange how they only jumped as high as they would of done if they had been on earth. LOL"
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I showed this to my little grandson as ET is a perfect example of a little bit of knowledge being a dangerous thing and guess what? Even my grandson saw straight through his assertion and asked me how heavy the suits were. When I told him they weigh the best part of 200 lbs he immediately said you couldn't jump around in them anywhere on earth, which is true, and even on the moon you would jump very carefully. From the mouths of babes! So a ten year old boy is more intelligent than ET!Always said his level of logic and understanding reminded me of junior school kids and there's the proof! Ha ha ha, ho ho ho, he he he!
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Can't wait to hear his explanation of how all the other astronauts and cosmonauts have survived passing through the Van Allen Belt on their way to the moon (no VA radiation actually on the moon of course) and how the US and USSR have managed to send dozens more unmanned landers, orbiters etc to the moon before and since A11 if they "didn't have the technology" to do it. Strange, stupid, ludicrous little man.

stropmag. wrote:
@E -Type:

You Said: “Son of a ..... had most of his multiple accounts deleted, he needed them to shore up his pitiable personality, but if you are his "dada" as he called you, then you will be aware of this rather limited contributions and need for additional support.”


I would be surprised if my son referred to me as “dada”. I have only ever known him to refer to me as “Father” or Dad”.

You Said: “He is still posting as a female though...were you aware of....things?”


You are still posting as a male…so…

You Said: “I claim nothing in regards to being an authority, how have you come to that conclusion?”


Because of your unbending assertions that fly in the face of what is generally accepted. One is entitled, surely, to conclude that you consider yourself to know better and in my book that would make you an authority. You are not of course but that is what you imply.

You Said: “My culture like yours is from earth as far as i know...by that i mean unless you tell me differently about yours! “


Sorry, I thought you had secret languages passed down- never written- from thousands of years past. Also customs that cannot be divulged as they too are secret. All the stuff of science fiction and pre-historic alien visitations, surely?

You Said: “I say there is much debate that the moon landings didn't take place and i believe that to be the case and for that you label me an imbecile.”


I think this conspiracy theory was put to bed a long time ago. I did not label you an imbecile, TWP did that for other reasons. I just happen to think he’s right.

You Said: “The thread is cannabis..for or against?”


My personal view is that cannabis is, on balance, less harmful than alcohol which is a legal drug the production and distribution/sale of which is monitored and controlled by the state which derives a substantial income by way of taxation from it. I would like to see cannabis fall under the same regime as alcohol. You will no doubt recall that I do on occasions partake of the drug myself but I happen not to smoke it.

You Said: “Your 'son' in his guise as a female hasn't given his opinion on the matter yet..perhaps he was waiting for you...”


You will have to ask him about that.

You Said: “Btw TWP is also known as the Hadleigh Stoner.. so we dont need to ask his opinion on illegal drug taking.”


You may not need to but I would value his opinion even if I did not agree with him.

Babs Stanley wrote:
We need to stop this stupid and unwinnable war against cannabis. It is causing far more harm to our communities than it prevents. If we had a properly regulated system of production and supply we'd have no more illegal cannabis farms, instead we'd have thousands of new jobs. We'd have no more dealers on the streets. Cannabis would be available to adults only through licensed outlets and we'd have some control over the THC and CBD content.

Doctors would be able to prescribe one of the most effective medicines that has no serious side effects at all. At the moment the government has given GW Pharmaceuticals an illegal monopoly on cannabis so they make millions out of a medicine that you can grow in your greenhouse for virtually nothing.

If we introduced a legally regulated system we would solve nearly all the problems around cannabis. Science proves how much safer it is than tobacco, alcohol, prescription medicines and all other recreational drugs. If anyone does have a problem with it they could get help without having to confess to a crime.

CLEAR published independent, expert research last year which shows that a tax and regulate policy on cannabis would produce a net gain to the UK economy of up to £9.3 billion per annum.

It is a scandal that our government, our judges, our courts, our police and our newspapers keep misleading us about cannabis. Find out the truth for yourself and wake up to the lies you have been told.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
Oops meant to address the above posting to JAYMAN.
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As for the moon landings, there never was any controversy at the time as so many people saw it, and I don't just mean the TV pics, I mean the long slow slog of getting dozens of unmanned probes to orbit and then land on the moon first, then the five manned missions that orbited the moon prior to the actual landing (which completely rubbishes claims that the technology wasn't there and that the VA Belt was too dangerous to travel through, absolute tosh) and the people like me who watched Apollo leave earth orbit in our 'scopes. Any controversy only arose years later when it became fashionable amongst thick stupid people who weren't even born at the time to be a conspiracy theorist. Never found a conspiracy theorist yet who had an ounce of brains or a science degree, says it all really, especially now we even have recent pics of the landing site. One day we'll revisit the landing site and the conspiracy theorists will have to eat humble pie, serves the thick stupid ****s right.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
CBDs used to be described as the anti psychotic component of cannabis, and they do seem to have that effect. You dispute that but as far as I can see CBDs are still described as anti psychotic or having anti psychotic effects (random examples below) so can you explain why you disagree - in terms that non scientists can understand. I could scatter plenty of physics equations around myself but who would understand them, besides if you really know your discipline you can explain it to anyone, true? (except for people who don’t want to learn)
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Cannabidiol as an antipsychotic agent, European Psychiatry, Volume 22, Supplement 1, March 2007, Page S21. See also Volume 24 European Psychiatry.
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“Research has strongly suggested that there is a clear link between early cannabis use and later mental health problems in those with a genetic vulnerability - and that there is a particular issue with the use of cannabis by adolescents“.
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So you are more likely to get problems if you have faulty genes. And as we know young brains are more at risk than older ones. So what do we do, if it remains illegal it is regarded as more exotic by the kids and they can get it whenever they want it. If it is legalised we can restrict sales and less kids use it (Holland, Portugal etc). Unless you know a better way of stopping the kids from using it? (and don’t say the law, the law does not work).
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“The main risk to physical health from cannabis is probably from the tobacco that it is often smoked with“.
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Mark those words …The MAIN risk is from small amounts of the legal drug, the tobacco. Or not as the case may be - never heard of pipes, cakes, bongs etc?
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“Recent research in Denmark suggests that (cannabis induced psychosis) is a short-lived psychotic disorder that seems to be brought on by cannabis use but which subsides fairly quickly once the individual has stopped using it. It's quite unusual though – in the whole of Denmark they found only around 100 new cases per year“.
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Short lived disorder … subsides quickly (usually within days) … quite unusual … only 100 cases per year. 100 CASES PER YEAR! Denmark can’t be magnitudes different to us, which explains why our hospitals are NOT bursting at the seams with cannabis casualties, like they are with alcohol casualties. C’mon, be honest! It’s not rocket science.
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Have the Royal College of Psychiatrists, and the NHS Mental Healthcare website got it wrong?…

SuperSilverSourDiese
l wrote:

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work.

remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

Yes lets waste police time for a bad smell, distracting them from real crimes like Rape, Assault and Theft, for a plant proven to be safer than alcohol and aspirin. Well done.

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work. remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

Sally Ann30 wrote:

jayman wrote:
well done police, keep up the good work. remember, if you smell something like a cross between old gym socks cats p1ss and herbs for no apparent reason emanating from a property near you, contact the local police..

Lol.. so that's 90% of the flats in grays then....

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
The Apollo Program collected 382 kilograms (840 lb) of Moon rocks during the six manned missions. Analyses by scientists worldwide all agree that these rocks came from the Moon - NO published accounts in peer-reviewed scientific journals exist that dispute this claim.
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The Apollo samples are easily distinguishable from both meteorites and Earth rocks in that they show a lack of hydrous alteration products, they show evidence of having undergone impact events on an airless body, and they have unique geochemical traits. Furthermore, most are more than 200 million years older than the oldest Earth rocks. The Moon rocks also share the same traits as samples retrieved from the Moon by Soviet lander missions.
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Brave men died in the race to get to the moon. On 27 January 1967, a fire erupted in the Apollo 1 command module during a test on the launch pad, destroying the module and killing astronauts Grissom, White, and Chaffee. A test flight of the Block II CSM in Earth orbit, Apollo 7 was the first manned Apollo flight and the first manned flight of the Saturn IB. It was the only manned Apollo launch not from LC 39. It included the first live TV broadcast from an American spacecraft. Apollo 8 was the first manned CIRCUMLUNAR flight of the CSM (10 orbits in 20 hours) and the first manned flight of the Saturn V. The crew were the first humans to see the far side of the Moon and earthrise over the lunar horizon with their own eyes. LIVE television pictures were broadcast to Earth. During 10 days in Earth orbit, Apollo 9 conducted the first manned flight test of the Lunar Module, demonstrating its propulsion and ability to rendezvous and dock with the CSM. An EVA tested the Portable Life Support System. In this "dress rehearsal" for the lunar landing, Apollo 10's Lunar Module was flown manned around the Moon and descended to 8.4 nautical miles (15.6 km) without landing. If ET is right all these astronauts should have died from exposure to the Van Allen radiation but none did.
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On July 20, 1969, the Apollo 11 Lunar Module performed the first manned landing on the Moon in the Sea of Tranquility, overcoming navigation errors and computer alarms. Astronauts Armstrong and Aldrin performed a single EVA in the direct vicinity of the LM. Following two lightning strikes on the spacecraft during launch, with brief loss of fuel cells and telemetry, Apollo 12 performed the first precise manned landing on the Moon in the Ocean of Storms near the Surveyor 3 probe. In two EVAs, the astronauts recovered portions of Surveyor and returned them to Earth. After docking problems, a faulty LM abort switch and delayed landing radar acquisition, Apollo 14's LM landed successfully at Fra Mauro. First color video images from the surface of the Moon, first materials science experiments in space, and two EVAs, in one of which Shepard performed a golf shot.Apollo 15, landing at Hadley-Apennine was the first "J series" mission with a 3-day lunar stay and extensive geology investigations. After a malfunction in a backup CSM yaw gimbal servo loop delayed the landing and reduced CSM time in lunar orbit, Apollo 16's LM landed in the Descartes Highlands. No ascent stage deorbit due to malfunction; 3 lunar EVAs and deep space EVA.The final Apollo lunar mission landed at Taurus-Littrow. Schmitt, a geologist, was the first professional scientist to go on a NASA mission. First night launch; 3 lunar EVAs and deep space EVA. But according to that ignorant know-nothing ET we didn’t have the technology to do any of this, ha ha!
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Since 1969 the lunar landing sites have been detected by NASA, Indian and Chinese space missions and the A11 site is even visible in photos taken from low lunar orbit by the A11 team themselves. Mark my words, one day man will return to the moon and the A11 landing site will be revealed in all it’s glory and conspiracy theorists the world over will have to eat their brainless words. Btw according to the latest official stats only 6% of people doubt the lunar landings took place, and I bet not a single one of them even has a science A level never mind a science degree, which is why the correct technical description of moon landing conspiracy theorists is ignorant nutters, ha ha ha!

LoopyLou88 wrote:
one in thorpe bay flats barnstaple side of train station still not been taken down.

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

LoopyLou88 wrote:
one in thorpe bay flats barnstaple side of train station still not been taken down.

what number is it?

LoopyLou88 wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

LoopyLou88 wrote:
one in thorpe bay flats barnstaple side of train station still not been taken down.

what number is it?

got no idea, but you can see lit up from train station purple glowing light, green plants, purple light on during day too.

jayman wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote: CBDs used to be described as the anti psychotic component of cannabis, and they do seem to have that effect. You dispute that but as far as I can see CBDs are still described as anti psychotic or having anti psychotic effects (random examples below) so can you explain why you disagree - in terms that non scientists can understand. I could scatter plenty of physics equations around myself but who would understand them, besides if you really know your discipline you can explain it to anyone, true? (except for people who don’t want to learn) . Cannabidiol as an antipsychotic agent, European Psychiatry, Volume 22, Supplement 1, March 2007, Page S21. See also Volume 24 European Psychiatry. . http://bjp.rcpsych.o rg/content/192/4/306 .short . http://www.scielo.br /scielo.php?pid=s010 0-879x2006000400001&
amp; amp; script=sci_arttext . http://www.springerl ink.com/content/f3k3 40p5x6344422/ . And a recent paper suggesting cannabis may suppress some cancers, if you really know your onions you wouldn’t dismiss any ideas out of hand, true?… . http://www.sciencedi rect.com/science/art icle/pii/S0304383509 002523 .. .. On a more practical note the following is from the Royal College of Psychiatrists … . http://www.rcpsych.a c.uk/mentalhealthinf o/problems/alcoholan ddrugs/cannabis.aspx . “Research has strongly suggested that there is a clear link between early cannabis use and later mental health problems in those with a genetic vulnerability - and that there is a particular issue with the use of cannabis by adolescents“. . So you are more likely to get problems if you have faulty genes. And as we know young brains are more at risk than older ones. So what do we do, if it remains illegal it is regarded as more exotic by the kids and they can get it whenever they want it. If it is legalised we can restrict sales and less kids use it (Holland, Portugal etc). Unless you know a better way of stopping the kids from using it? (and don’t say the law, the law does not work). . “The main risk to physical health from cannabis is probably from the tobacco that it is often smoked with“. . Mark those words …The MAIN risk is from small amounts of the legal drug, the tobacco. Or not as the case may be - never heard of pipes, cakes, bongs etc? . “Recent research in Denmark suggests that (cannabis induced psychosis) is a short-lived psychotic disorder that seems to be brought on by cannabis use but which subsides fairly quickly once the individual has stopped using it. It's quite unusual though – in the whole of Denmark they found only around 100 new cases per year“. . Short lived disorder … subsides quickly (usually within days) … quite unusual … only 100 cases per year. 100 CASES PER YEAR! Denmark can’t be magnitudes different to us, which explains why our hospitals are NOT bursting at the seams with cannabis casualties, like they are with alcohol casualties. C’mon, be honest! It’s not rocket science. . Have the Royal College of Psychiatrists, and the NHS Mental Healthcare website got it wrong?…

you keep reading the research summaries, you have no or little understanding of what the science actually says, just the opinion of the scientist. this is why science research is 'peer reviewed!' a team of scientists from the OPERA research facility once claimed that had found a particle that could travel faster then light. then head of the above mentioned experiment has now resigned. because he was making claims that where based on bad science..

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
The Apollo Program collected 382 kilograms (840 lb) of Moon rocks during the six manned missions. Analyses by scientists worldwide all agree that these rocks came from the Moon - NO published accounts in peer-reviewed scientific journals exist that dispute this claim.
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The Apollo samples are easily distinguishable from both meteorites and Earth rocks in that they show a lack of hydrous alteration products, they show evidence of having undergone impact events on an airless body, and they have unique geochemical traits. Furthermore, most are more than 200 million years older than the oldest Earth rocks. The Moon rocks also share the same traits as samples retrieved from the Moon by Soviet lander missions.
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Brave men died in the race to get to the moon. On 27 January 1967, a fire erupted in the Apollo 1 command module during a test on the launch pad, destroying the module and killing astronauts Grissom, White, and Chaffee. A test flight of the Block II CSM in Earth orbit, Apollo 7 was the first manned Apollo flight and the first manned flight of the Saturn IB. It was the only manned Apollo launch not from LC 39. It included the first live TV broadcast from an American spacecraft. Apollo 8 was the first manned CIRCUMLUNAR flight of the CSM (10 orbits in 20 hours) and the first manned flight of the Saturn V. The crew were the first humans to see the far side of the Moon and earthrise over the lunar horizon with their own eyes. LIVE television pictures were broadcast to Earth. During 10 days in Earth orbit, Apollo 9 conducted the first manned flight test of the Lunar Module, demonstrating its propulsion and ability to rendezvous and dock with the CSM. An EVA tested the Portable Life Support System. In this "dress rehearsal" for the lunar landing, Apollo 10's Lunar Module was flown manned around the Moon and descended to 8.4 nautical miles (15.6 km) without landing. If ET is right all these astronauts should have died from exposure to the Van Allen radiation but none did.
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On July 20, 1969, the Apollo 11 Lunar Module performed the first manned landing on the Moon in the Sea of Tranquility, overcoming navigation errors and computer alarms. Astronauts Armstrong and Aldrin performed a single EVA in the direct vicinity of the LM. Following two lightning strikes on the spacecraft during launch, with brief loss of fuel cells and telemetry, Apollo 12 performed the first precise manned landing on the Moon in the Ocean of Storms near the Surveyor 3 probe. In two EVAs, the astronauts recovered portions of Surveyor and returned them to Earth. After docking problems, a faulty LM abort switch and delayed landing radar acquisition, Apollo 14's LM landed successfully at Fra Mauro. First color video images from the surface of the Moon, first materials science experiments in space, and two EVAs, in one of which Shepard performed a golf shot.Apollo 15, landing at Hadley-Apennine was the first "J series" mission with a 3-day lunar stay and extensive geology investigations. After a malfunction in a backup CSM yaw gimbal servo loop delayed the landing and reduced CSM time in lunar orbit, Apollo 16's LM landed in the Descartes Highlands. No ascent stage deorbit due to malfunction; 3 lunar EVAs and deep space EVA.The final Apollo lunar mission landed at Taurus-Littrow. Schmitt, a geologist, was the first professional scientist to go on a NASA mission. First night launch; 3 lunar EVAs and deep space EVA. But according to that ignorant know-nothing ET we didn’t have the technology to do any of this, ha ha!
.
Since 1969 the lunar landing sites have been detected by NASA, Indian and Chinese space missions and the A11 site is even visible in photos taken from low lunar orbit by the A11 team themselves. Mark my words, one day man will return to the moon and the A11 landing site will be revealed in all it’s glory and conspiracy theorists the world over will have to eat their brainless words. Btw according to the latest official stats only 6% of people doubt the lunar landings took place, and I bet not a single one of them even has a science A level never mind a science degree, which is why the correct technical description of moon landing conspiracy theorists is ignorant nutters, ha ha ha!

LoopyLou88 wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

LoopyLou88 wrote:
one in thorpe bay flats barnstaple side of train station still not been taken down.

what number is it?

got no idea, but you can see lit up from train station purple glowing light, green plants, purple light on during day too.

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
The Apollo Program collected 382 kilograms (840 lb) of Moon rocks during the six manned missions. Analyses by scientists worldwide all agree that these rocks came from the Moon - NO published accounts in peer-reviewed scientific journals exist that dispute this claim.
.
The Apollo samples are easily distinguishable from both meteorites and Earth rocks in that they show a lack of hydrous alteration products, they show evidence of having undergone impact events on an airless body, and they have unique geochemical traits. Furthermore, most are more than 200 million years older than the oldest Earth rocks. The Moon rocks also share the same traits as samples retrieved from the Moon by Soviet lander missions.
.
Brave men died in the race to get to the moon. On 27 January 1967, a fire erupted in the Apollo 1 command module during a test on the launch pad, destroying the module and killing astronauts Grissom, White, and Chaffee. A test flight of the Block II CSM in Earth orbit, Apollo 7 was the first manned Apollo flight and the first manned flight of the Saturn IB. It was the only manned Apollo launch not from LC 39. It included the first live TV broadcast from an American spacecraft. Apollo 8 was the first manned CIRCUMLUNAR flight of the CSM (10 orbits in 20 hours) and the first manned flight of the Saturn V. The crew were the first humans to see the far side of the Moon and earthrise over the lunar horizon with their own eyes. LIVE television pictures were broadcast to Earth. During 10 days in Earth orbit, Apollo 9 conducted the first manned flight test of the Lunar Module, demonstrating its propulsion and ability to rendezvous and dock with the CSM. An EVA tested the Portable Life Support System. In this "dress rehearsal" for the lunar landing, Apollo 10's Lunar Module was flown manned around the Moon and descended to 8.4 nautical miles (15.6 km) without landing. If ET is right all these astronauts should have died from exposure to the Van Allen radiation but none did.
.
On July 20, 1969, the Apollo 11 Lunar Module performed the first manned landing on the Moon in the Sea of Tranquility, overcoming navigation errors and computer alarms. Astronauts Armstrong and Aldrin performed a single EVA in the direct vicinity of the LM. Following two lightning strikes on the spacecraft during launch, with brief loss of fuel cells and telemetry, Apollo 12 performed the first precise manned landing on the Moon in the Ocean of Storms near the Surveyor 3 probe. In two EVAs, the astronauts recovered portions of Surveyor and returned them to Earth. After docking problems, a faulty LM abort switch and delayed landing radar acquisition, Apollo 14's LM landed successfully at Fra Mauro. First color video images from the surface of the Moon, first materials science experiments in space, and two EVAs, in one of which Shepard performed a golf shot.Apollo 15, landing at Hadley-Apennine was the first "J series" mission with a 3-day lunar stay and extensive geology investigations. After a malfunction in a backup CSM yaw gimbal servo loop delayed the landing and reduced CSM time in lunar orbit, Apollo 16's LM landed in the Descartes Highlands. No ascent stage deorbit due to malfunction; 3 lunar EVAs and deep space EVA.The final Apollo lunar mission landed at Taurus-Littrow. Schmitt, a geologist, was the first professional scientist to go on a NASA mission. First night launch; 3 lunar EVAs and deep space EVA. But according to that ignorant know-nothing ET we didn’t have the technology to do any of this, ha ha!
.
Since 1969 the lunar landing sites have been detected by NASA, Indian and Chinese space missions and the A11 site is even visible in photos taken from low lunar orbit by the A11 team themselves. Mark my words, one day man will return to the moon and the A11 landing site will be revealed in all it’s glory and conspiracy theorists the world over will have to eat their brainless words. Btw according to the latest official stats only 6% of people doubt the lunar landings took place, and I bet not a single one of them even has a science A level never mind a science degree, which is why the correct technical description of moon landing conspiracy theorists is ignorant nutters, ha ha ha!

You will of course be aware that some of the rocks they handed out were FAKE! 'Good ole boys' Neil and Buzz palmed them off on Holland

http://www.telegraph

.co.uk/science/space

/6105902/Moon-rock-g

iven-to-Holland-by-N

eil-Armstrong-and-Bu

zz-Aldrin-is-fake.ht

ml

You keep harping on about "peer reviewed" but surely you are aware If you had a monkey review another monkeys work, which he is in agreement with, that it could be said the 1st monkeys work was "peer reviewed" clue up yourself man!


" If ET is right " Hey its got nothing to do with me...i wasn't part of the hoax!

Its people with the knowledge of the radiation involved who have said man could not go through the belt in the craft they are said to have done...have you looked at all the clear evidence of this on the internet? Or are you thinking only I think this is the case?
You are a minority in the civilised world in thinking man walked, jumped, played golf on the moon..They didn't but they pretended to.

Im just pointing out while there is much independent proof that man didnt go to the moon and land there the only evidence available they did is from those who had most to gain by stating man did...

As for all the flying around in space no one is saying space craft didn't do that what is being said is man didn't land on the moon...repeat didn't land on the moon....

"err.. Houston we have a problem, we cant get the film studio door open...over"

"Houston to astronauts, give it a good shake and then kick the bottom and it will open...remember not to go into the cantina...you're supposed to be playing golf on the moon...over"

The VAB is your red herring, it could be traversed through by men if the crafts were protected enough, but the crafts were not protected to cause man to survive because man didn't go through it.

Prattling on with Nasa reports as if they are proof as silly as the notion of men wearing space suits that wouldn't of fitted in or out of 'Eagle" leaping inches off the ground while the tape is run 505 slower than normal...It was all a trick..take your telescope and get your money back..you've been conned! LOL

You have complained about me to admin again about me being rude to you while you post comments like this?

" But according to that ignorant know-nothing ET"

You're going to get yourself banned and then what will Nasa do without you?

Merk you words...have you got a bet on with the bookies or something...if so you have lost...

Where is the link you are stating says only 6% of people doubt the moon landing...that must of been taken in your household.

I bet more than 75% of people on these threads , if they have given it a thought, believe man walked on the moon...

" which is why the correct technical description of moon landing conspiracy theorists is ignorant nutters,"

Is that a fact? Or a bit more of your "I thought it so it must be the case"

Other than posting Nasa information what have you posted that shows this walk took place...Nothing!

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
The Apollo Program collected 382 kilograms (840 lb) of Moon rocks during the six manned missions. Analyses by scientists worldwide all agree that these rocks came from the Moon - NO published accounts in peer-reviewed scientific journals exist that dispute this claim.
.
The Apollo samples are easily distinguishable from both meteorites and Earth rocks in that they show a lack of hydrous alteration products, they show evidence of having undergone impact events on an airless body, and they have unique geochemical traits. Furthermore, most are more than 200 million years older than the oldest Earth rocks. The Moon rocks also share the same traits as samples retrieved from the Moon by Soviet lander missions.
.
Brave men died in the race to get to the moon. On 27 January 1967, a fire erupted in the Apollo 1 command module during a test on the launch pad, destroying the module and killing astronauts Grissom, White, and Chaffee. A test flight of the Block II CSM in Earth orbit, Apollo 7 was the first manned Apollo flight and the first manned flight of the Saturn IB. It was the only manned Apollo launch not from LC 39. It included the first live TV broadcast from an American spacecraft. Apollo 8 was the first manned CIRCUMLUNAR flight of the CSM (10 orbits in 20 hours) and the first manned flight of the Saturn V. The crew were the first humans to see the far side of the Moon and earthrise over the lunar horizon with their own eyes. LIVE television pictures were broadcast to Earth. During 10 days in Earth orbit, Apollo 9 conducted the first manned flight test of the Lunar Module, demonstrating its propulsion and ability to rendezvous and dock with the CSM. An EVA tested the Portable Life Support System. In this "dress rehearsal" for the lunar landing, Apollo 10's Lunar Module was flown manned around the Moon and descended to 8.4 nautical miles (15.6 km) without landing. If ET is right all these astronauts should have died from exposure to the Van Allen radiation but none did.
.
On July 20, 1969, the Apollo 11 Lunar Module performed the first manned landing on the Moon in the Sea of Tranquility, overcoming navigation errors and computer alarms. Astronauts Armstrong and Aldrin performed a single EVA in the direct vicinity of the LM. Following two lightning strikes on the spacecraft during launch, with brief loss of fuel cells and telemetry, Apollo 12 performed the first precise manned landing on the Moon in the Ocean of Storms near the Surveyor 3 probe. In two EVAs, the astronauts recovered portions of Surveyor and returned them to Earth. After docking problems, a faulty LM abort switch and delayed landing radar acquisition, Apollo 14's LM landed successfully at Fra Mauro. First color video images from the surface of the Moon, first materials science experiments in space, and two EVAs, in one of which Shepard performed a golf shot.Apollo 15, landing at Hadley-Apennine was the first "J series" mission with a 3-day lunar stay and extensive geology investigations. After a malfunction in a backup CSM yaw gimbal servo loop delayed the landing and reduced CSM time in lunar orbit, Apollo 16's LM landed in the Descartes Highlands. No ascent stage deorbit due to malfunction; 3 lunar EVAs and deep space EVA.The final Apollo lunar mission landed at Taurus-Littrow. Schmitt, a geologist, was the first professional scientist to go on a NASA mission. First night launch; 3 lunar EVAs and deep space EVA. But according to that ignorant know-nothing ET we didn’t have the technology to do any of this, ha ha!
.
Since 1969 the lunar landing sites have been detected by NASA, Indian and Chinese space missions and the A11 site is even visible in photos taken from low lunar orbit by the A11 team themselves. Mark my words, one day man will return to the moon and the A11 landing site will be revealed in all it’s glory and conspiracy theorists the world over will have to eat their brainless words. Btw according to the latest official stats only 6% of people doubt the lunar landings took place, and I bet not a single one of them even has a science A level never mind a science degree, which is why the correct technical description of moon landing conspiracy theorists is ignorant nutters, ha ha ha!

you're on the wrong story gramps.

E -Type wrote:

LoopyLou88 wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

LoopyLou88 wrote:
one in thorpe bay flats barnstaple side of train station still not been taken down.

what number is it?

got no idea, but you can see lit up from train station purple glowing light, green plants, purple light on during day too.

Thats probably TWP bachelor flat, his space lights flickering on and off as he uses his 1960s junior telescope, to see if he can detect golf balls on the moon.

E - Type wrote:
Oh yes nearly forgot TWP says " and I have been a regular Nature /NS reader since the 70s".

Well, Ive been a reader of H&E since the 70's so I must be just as qualified to talk about heavenly bodys.

E -Type wrote:

E - Type wrote:
Oh yes nearly forgot TWP says " and I have been a regular Nature /NS reader since the 70s".

Well, Ive been a reader of H&E since the 70's so I must be just as qualified to talk about heavenly bodys.

If you libel anyone on here or use illegal or unlawful language i will work with those who you libel or the authorities to have you held to account for your actions. The admin has been informed that you have re-signed to the forum aping my user name...again.

E -Type wrote:

E - Type wrote: Oh yes nearly forgot TWP says " and I have been a regular Nature /NS reader since the 70s". Well, Ive been a reader of H&E since the 70's so I must be just as qualified to talk about heavenly bodys.

If you libel anyone on here or use illegal or unlawful language i will work with those who you libel or the authorities to have you held to account for your actions. The admin has been informed that you have re-signed to the forum aping my user name...again.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

E -Type wrote:

E - Type wrote: Oh yes nearly forgot TWP says " and I have been a regular Nature /NS reader since the 70s". Well, Ive been a reader of H&E since the 70's so I must be just as qualified to talk about heavenly bodys.

If you libel anyone on here or use illegal or unlawful language i will work with those who you libel or the authorities to have you held to account for your actions. The admin has been informed that you have re-signed to the forum aping my user name...again.

You are crazy, how can you call the Echo reinstating my account as TWP because the account was closed unjustifiably "aping your user name"??? In case you have forgotten YOU are the one whose account was closed down and you are the one who has re-registered with a similar name. I wonder if the Echo has realised that yet? You don't half talk a load of twaddle ET. Typical traveller attitude of trying(!) to use the law when it suits you and ignoring the law when it doesn't. Shame we can't have you removed from planet earth permanently cos the world would be a better place without people as ignorant as you.

E - Type wrote:
@E -Type (formerly known as E-Types.., E-Types, Minceir, Night'n'Day - et al)



If you libel anyone on here or use illegal or unlawful language i will work with those who you libel or the authorities to have you held to account for your actions. The admin has been informed that you have re-signed to the forum aping my user name...again.

E - Type wrote:
And while you ponder that question I think I'll roll another one.

E -Type wrote:

E - Type wrote:
And while you ponder that question I think I'll roll another one.

Here is the proof anyone needed that cannabis does effect the brain!

A living example... although sample might be more appropriate!

E -Type wrote:

E - Type wrote:
And while you ponder that question I think I'll roll another one.

Here is the proof anyone needed that cannabis does effect the brain!

A living example... although sample might be more appropriate!

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

E -Type wrote:

E - Type wrote:
And while you ponder that question I think I'll roll another one.

Here is the proof anyone needed that cannabis does effect the brain!

A living example... although sample might be more appropriate!

it's probably the hadleigh moaner

E -Type wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

E -Type wrote:

E - Type wrote:
And while you ponder that question I think I'll roll another one.

Here is the proof anyone needed that cannabis does effect the brain!

A living example... although sample might be more appropriate!

it's probably the hadleigh moaner

Yes i had thought that might be the case..he gets whipped and then tries to save a bit of face with a new name.

He dont post much in the way of text because he knows his dry dribble will be recognised..

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
You two are sick fantasists who think you're being clever by disrespecting the 40,000 people involved in the Apollo programme with your half baked ideas but you are actually just showing yourselves up as the uneducated ignorant plebs you really are. Orangutans and algebra.

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
You two are sick fantasists who think you're being clever by disrespecting the 40,000 people involved in the Apollo programme with your half baked ideas but you are actually just showing yourselves up as the uneducated ignorant plebs you really are. Orangutans and algebra.

Seems you dont have any independent evidence of what you allege...not that it matters.

How many people in the world care one way or the other if two man in fancy suits played leapfrog on a satellite?

Im only 'anti walk' because you are 'pro walk'... if you were anti walk id be pro walk LOL. And id provide the evidence that they did walk on the moon not just say it. Which is all you have done.

No one cares about the moon... people are more concerned about the earth.

AndyBSG wrote:
Yes, lets legalise cannabis and completely ignore all of the following which all have proven links with cannabis use

- reduced testosterone levels
- reduced sperm count and mobility
- increased risk of testicular cancer
- increased risk of depression,anxiety and psychosis

I only have to look around me at the people I went to school with and see how all the stoners have massively underachieved and don't seem bothered by it compared to others I went school with who have gone on to have successful lives.

Camp Incontinent wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
You two are sick fantasists who think you're being clever by disrespecting the 40,000 people involved in the Apollo programme with your half baked ideas but you are actually just showing yourselves up as the uneducated ignorant plebs you really are. Orangutans and algebra.

Seems you dont have any independent evidence of what you allege...not that it matters.

How many people in the world care one way or the other if two man in fancy suits played leapfrog on a satellite?

Im only 'anti walk' because you are 'pro walk'... if you were anti walk id be pro walk LOL. And id provide the evidence that they did walk on the moon not just say it. Which is all you have done.

No one cares about the moon... people are more concerned about the earth.

Well, I'll be burgered ! An honest and half way reasonable comment from ET. Never thought I'd see the day. I doubt that you would be any better than TWP at providing what you call evidence pro lunar landing than you have been providing evidence to support the anti stance you have adopted though. I don't think that matters as evidence is merely supportive in the search for truth and, as you have rightly pointed out, we should perhaps be more concerned with what is happening on the planet.

If the moon landing was faked then it will surely go down in history as the most convincing and elaborate hoax since J.C was presented to us as the son of God.

AndyBSG wrote:
Yes, lets legalise cannabis and completely ignore all of the following which all have proven links with cannabis use

- reduced testosterone levels
- reduced sperm count and mobility
- increased risk of testicular cancer
- increased risk of depression,anxiety and psychosis

I only have to look around me at the people I went to school with and see how all the stoners have massively underachieved and don't seem bothered by it compared to others I went school with who have gone on to have successful lives.

Druggie Scumbag wrote:

AndyBSG wrote:
Yes, lets legalise cannabis and completely ignore all of the following which all have proven links with cannabis use

- reduced testosterone levels
- reduced sperm count and mobility
- increased risk of testicular cancer
- increased risk of depression,anxiety and psychosis

I only have to look around me at the people I went to school with and see how all the stoners have massively underachieved and don't seem bothered by it compared to others I went school with who have gone on to have successful lives.

Have you considered that your "stoner" peers may actually have achieved and that you have failed? If they are, as you say "not bothered" by their perceived (by you) underachievement maybe they have got it right (for themselves if not for you).

AndyBSG wrote:

Druggie Scumbag wrote:

AndyBSG wrote:
Yes, lets legalise cannabis and completely ignore all of the following which all have proven links with cannabis use

- reduced testosterone levels
- reduced sperm count and mobility
- increased risk of testicular cancer
- increased risk of depression,anxiety and psychosis

I only have to look around me at the people I went to school with and see how all the stoners have massively underachieved and don't seem bothered by it compared to others I went school with who have gone on to have successful lives.

Have you considered that your "stoner" peers may actually have achieved and that you have failed? If they are, as you say "not bothered" by their perceived (by you) underachievement maybe they have got it right (for themselves if not for you).

I guess that depends on if you class working in minimum wage dead end jobs while living in run down rented accommodation and only looking forward to their weekly fix of waccy baccy as the highlight of their week as 'achievements'.

Personally I don't and feel sorry for anyone who does consider that as a happy and fulfilling lifestyle.

Druggie Scumbag wrote:

AndyBSG wrote:

Druggie Scumbag wrote:

AndyBSG wrote:
Yes, lets legalise cannabis and completely ignore all of the following which all have proven links with cannabis use

- reduced testosterone levels
- reduced sperm count and mobility
- increased risk of testicular cancer
- increased risk of depression,anxiety and psychosis

I only have to look around me at the people I went to school with and see how all the stoners have massively underachieved and don't seem bothered by it compared to others I went school with who have gone on to have successful lives.

Have you considered that your "stoner" peers may actually have achieved and that you have failed? If they are, as you say "not bothered" by their perceived (by you) underachievement maybe they have got it right (for themselves if not for you).

I guess that depends on if you class working in minimum wage dead end jobs while living in run down rented accommodation and only looking forward to their weekly fix of waccy baccy as the highlight of their week as 'achievements'.

Personally I don't and feel sorry for anyone who does consider that as a happy and fulfilling lifestyle.

It's good to hear someone not classify cannabis users as "Benefits scroungers" as certain others on this thread have done. The reality is cannabis users come from all walks of life from the landed gentry (yes, they do still exist and I know one or two who are regular users) to the professions, management people , the whole spectrum of society. I see no correlation between ones cannabis use and the job that one does or the status one holds.

Druggie Scumbag wrote:
@ BVA who says :

" those that become dependant have no moral fibre and have failed".

Few people become dependent on cannabis, I think I am right in saying that there is no physical dependency but a degree of psychological dependency is possible. Far less a problem than tobacco or alcohol.

There are many veterans from the war in Vietnam who became regular users of cannabis once back home in the US. Failures without moral fibre?

I have a sneaky suspicion I'd rather have them watching my back in a tricky situation than you.

E - Type wrote:
We seem to be getting along well. You can take me out if you likes and i'll let you play with my little pony.

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

E - Type wrote:
We seem to be getting along well. You can take me out if you likes and i'll let you play with my little pony.

Lets take this a step at a time. I feel like I'm being groomed but it's probably just thought transference from your pony.

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

E - Type wrote:
We seem to be getting along well. You can take me out if you likes and i'll let you play with my little pony.

Lets take this a step at a time. I feel like I'm being groomed but it's probably just thought transference from your pony.

Camp Incontinent wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

E - Type wrote:
We seem to be getting along well. You can take me out if you likes and i'll let you play with my little pony.

Lets take this a step at a time. I feel like I'm being groomed but it's probably just thought transference from your pony.

A bit of a turn up for the books I must say.
Asbo & E.T.
E.T. & Asbo.
May you both be very happy together !

E -Type wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

E - Type wrote:
We seem to be getting along well. You can take me out if you likes and i'll let you play with my little pony.

Lets take this a step at a time. I feel like I'm being groomed but it's probably just thought transference from your pony.

A bit of a turn up for the books I must say.
Asbo & E.T.
E.T. & Asbo.
May you both be very happy together !

There are many questions to be answered in life and more than one E -Type on the forum.

One is debonair, handsome and modest ( myself)

The other is a little paid 'wrinkle scratcher'

Camp Incontinent wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote: You two are sick fantasists who think you're being clever by disrespecting the 40,000 people involved in the Apollo programme with your half baked ideas but you are actually just showing yourselves up as the uneducated ignorant plebs you really are. Orangutans and algebra.

Seems you dont have any independent evidence of what you allege...not that it matters. How many people in the world care one way or the other if two man in fancy suits played leapfrog on a satellite? Im only 'anti walk' because you are 'pro walk'... if you were anti walk id be pro walk LOL. And id provide the evidence that they did walk on the moon not just say it. Which is all you have done. No one cares about the moon... people are more concerned about the earth.

Well, I'll be burgered ! An honest and half way reasonable comment from ET. Never thought I'd see the day. I doubt that you would be any better than TWP at providing what you call evidence pro lunar landing than you have been providing evidence to support the anti stance you have adopted though. I don't think that matters as evidence is merely supportive in the search for truth and, as you have rightly pointed out, we should perhaps be more concerned with what is happening on the planet. If the moon landing was faked then it will surely go down in history as the most convincing and elaborate hoax since J.C was presented to us as the son of God.

E -Type wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

E - Type wrote:
We seem to be getting along well. You can take me out if you likes and i'll let you play with my little pony.

Lets take this a step at a time. I feel like I'm being groomed but it's probably just thought transference from your pony.

A bit of a turn up for the books I must say.
Asbo & E.T.
E.T. & Asbo.
May you both be very happy together !

There are many questions to be answered in life and more than one E -Type on the forum.

One is debonair, handsome and modest ( myself)

The other is a little paid 'wrinkle scratcher'

Camp Incontinent wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

E - Type wrote:
We seem to be getting along well. You can take me out if you likes and i'll let you play with my little pony.

Lets take this a step at a time. I feel like I'm being groomed but it's probably just thought transference from your pony.

A bit of a turn up for the books I must say.
Asbo & E.T.
E.T. & Asbo.
May you both be very happy together !

There are many questions to be answered in life and more than one E -Type on the forum.

One is debonair, handsome and modest ( myself)

The other is a little paid 'wrinkle scratcher'

Debonair, handsome and modest ? Is that what Asbo told you ? Anyway, I'm glad you cleared up the confusion surrounding the two E.T.s. Perhaps the 'wrinkle scratcher' will find an admirer here too.

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

E - Type wrote:
We seem to be getting along well. You can take me out if you likes and i'll let you play with my little pony.

Lets take this a step at a time. I feel like I'm being groomed but it's probably just thought transference from your pony.

A bit of a turn up for the books I must say.
Asbo & E.T.
E.T. & Asbo.
May you both be very happy together !

There are many questions to be answered in life and more than one E -Type on the forum.

One is debonair, handsome and modest ( myself)

The other is a little paid 'wrinkle scratcher'

Debonair, handsome and modest ? Is that what Asbo told you ? Anyway, I'm glad you cleared up the confusion surrounding the two E.T.s. Perhaps the 'wrinkle scratcher' will find an admirer here too.

aren't you running late for you edl knees up?

Camp Incontinent wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

E - Type wrote:
We seem to be getting along well. You can take me out if you likes and i'll let you play with my little pony.

Lets take this a step at a time. I feel like I'm being groomed but it's probably just thought transference from your pony.

A bit of a turn up for the books I must say.
Asbo & E.T.
E.T. & Asbo.
May you both be very happy together !

There are many questions to be answered in life and more than one E -Type on the forum.

One is debonair, handsome and modest ( myself)

The other is a little paid 'wrinkle scratcher'

Debonair, handsome and modest ? Is that what Asbo told you ? Anyway, I'm glad you cleared up the confusion surrounding the two E.T.s. Perhaps the 'wrinkle scratcher' will find an admirer here too.

aren't you running late for you edl knees up?

I'm not a member but if they allow guests I'd be happy to go along as yours. Don't tell E.T. though !

Druggie Scumbag wrote:
The Essex Darts League, that's what you should get involved in, asbo. You may make new friends and widen your social circle. I've nothing against your boyfriend but it would be healthier if you surrounded yourself with proper people rather than the likes of E-Type.

Who knows, you may even meet a quality arrow chucker who can enjoy a toke or two when not on the oche.

Druggie Scumbag wrote:
The Essex Darts League, that's what you should get involved in, asbo. You may make new friends and widen your social circle. I've nothing against your boyfriend but it would be healthier if you surrounded yourself with proper people rather than the likes of E-Type. Who knows, you may even meet a quality arrow chucker who can enjoy a toke or two when not on the oche.

Gina the weaner wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

E - Type wrote: We seem to be getting along well. You can take me out if you likes and i'll let you play with my little pony.

Lets take this a step at a time. I feel like I'm being groomed but it's probably just thought transference from your pony.

A bit of a turn up for the books I must say. Asbo & E.T. E.T. & Asbo. May you both be very happy together !

There are many questions to be answered in life and more than one E -Type on the forum. One is debonair, handsome and modest ( myself) The other is a little paid 'wrinkle scratcher'

I thought you were the winkle scratcher.

Camp Incontinent wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

E - Type wrote: We seem to be getting along well. You can take me out if you likes and i'll let you play with my little pony.

Lets take this a step at a time. I feel like I'm being groomed but it's probably just thought transference from your pony.

A bit of a turn up for the books I must say. Asbo & E.T. E.T. & Asbo. May you both be very happy together !

There are many questions to be answered in life and more than one E -Type on the forum. One is debonair, handsome and modest ( myself) The other is a little paid 'wrinkle scratcher'

Debonair, handsome and modest ? Is that what Asbo told you ? Anyway, I'm glad you cleared up the confusion surrounding the two E.T.s. Perhaps the 'wrinkle scratcher' will find an admirer here too.

aren't you running late for you edl knees up?

I'm not a member but if they allow guests I'd be happy to go along as yours. Don't tell E.T. though !

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

E - Type wrote:
We seem to be getting along well. You can take me out if you likes and i'll let you play with my little pony.

Lets take this a step at a time. I feel like I'm being groomed but it's probably just thought transference from your pony.

A bit of a turn up for the books I must say.
Asbo & E.T.
E.T. & Asbo.
May you both be very happy together !

There are many questions to be answered in life and more than one E -Type on the forum.

One is debonair, handsome and modest ( myself)

The other is a little paid 'wrinkle scratcher'

Debonair, handsome and modest ? Is that what Asbo told you ? Anyway, I'm glad you cleared up the confusion surrounding the two E.T.s. Perhaps the 'wrinkle scratcher' will find an admirer here too.

aren't you running late for you edl knees up?

I'm not a member but if they allow guests I'd be happy to go along as yours. Don't tell E.T. though !

but you're the archetypal white van man from basildon... don't try to pull the wool...

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
So let's get this straight, ET claims that every Apollo mission from Lovell, Boorman and Anders' first manned orbit of the moon in 1968 (Apollo 7) to the last Lunar landing by Cernan, Schmit and Evans in late 1972 (Apollo 17) was faked despite the fact that every single mission was televised live as it happened and tracked every inch of the way by the Russians and anyone else with a 'scope big enough to see it. And then ET says WE have to prove they happened? Oh no matey, if you are going to make such fantastic claims then it is YOU who has to provide the proof except that you can't, can you, because there is no such proof, because your ideas are total fantasy like most of the mental diarrhoea you spew forth on these pages.

Alekhine wrote:
You are wasting your time TWP. ET does not have a real opinion on the lunar landings and would not care if a lump of moonrock fell out of the sky and hit him on the head.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
We can but hope Alek.
.
Mind you it's not just about him, it's about spreading lies which I detest.

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
We can but hope Alek.
.
Mind you it's not just about him, it's about spreading lies which I detest.

Lies? Are you a fully moon buggy or is there a fe moons rocks missing?

What lies am i spreading.


The original moonwalker was Michael Jackson and i believe Jimmy Savile taught him...ever been on top of the pops?

Camp Incontinent wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
We can but hope Alek.
.
Mind you it's not just about him, it's about spreading lies which I detest.

Lies? Are you a fully moon buggy or is there a fe moons rocks missing?

What lies am i spreading.


The original moonwalker was Michael Jackson and i believe Jimmy Savile taught him...ever been on top of the pops?

Ah, yes Jimmy Saville. A traveller wasn't he ?

E -Type wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
We can but hope Alek.
.
Mind you it's not just about him, it's about spreading lies which I detest.

Lies? Are you a fully moon buggy or is there a fe moons rocks missing?

What lies am i spreading.


The original moonwalker was Michael Jackson and i believe Jimmy Savile taught him...ever been on top of the pops?

Ah, yes Jimmy Saville. A traveller wasn't he ?

No i believe he was from your community... relative of yours?

Gina the weaner wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
We can but hope Alek.
.
Mind you it's not just about him, it's about spreading lies which I detest.

Lies? Are you a fully moon buggy or is there a fe moons rocks missing?

What lies am i spreading.


The original moonwalker was Michael Jackson and i believe Jimmy Savile taught him...ever been on top of the pops?

Ah, yes Jimmy Saville. A traveller wasn't he ?

No i believe he was from your community... relative of yours?

Well, he did have a caravan but he actually travelled in it so I doubt he was a Traveller.

E -Type wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
We can but hope Alek.
.
Mind you it's not just about him, it's about spreading lies which I detest.

Lies? Are you a fully moon buggy or is there a fe moons rocks missing?

What lies am i spreading.


The original moonwalker was Michael Jackson and i believe Jimmy Savile taught him...ever been on top of the pops?

Ah, yes Jimmy Saville. A traveller wasn't he ?

No i believe he was from your community... relative of yours?

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote: So let's get this straight, ET claims that every Apollo mission from Lovell, Boorman and Anders' first manned orbit of the moon in 1968 (Apollo 7) to the last Lunar landing by Cernan, Schmit and Evans in late 1972 (Apollo 17) was faked despite the fact that every single mission was televised live as it happened and tracked every inch of the way by the Russians and anyone else with a 'scope big enough to see it. And then ET says WE have to prove they happened? Oh no matey, if you are going to make such fantastic claims then it is YOU who has to provide the proof except that you can't, can you, because there is no such proof, because your ideas are total fantasy like most of the mental diarrhoea you spew forth on these pages.

I claim nothing 'ole man moonwalker' What i say is you have provide not one iota if independent evidence of what you allege...not a nits handbag of independent proof! We are not talking about being in space or orbiting but LANDING? The issues is about LANDING. Trying to muddy the atmosphere with anything other than that, is just you avoiding the question of the lack of INDEPENDENT evidence that man ventured out of the disney studios at all...Where is the IND evidence..post it up old man moonwalker or accept that the people are not as gullible and naive as they (you) were in that time .

E -Type wrote:

Alekhine wrote:
You are wasting your time TWP. ET does not have a real opinion on the lunar landings and would not care if a lump of moonrock fell out of the sky and hit him on the head.

So you believe it too? perhaps you would like to do ole man moon walk a favour and post up any independent evidence of man walking on the moon.

To date he hasn't been able to do so.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
Apollo 11, 12, 14, 15, 16 and 17 ALL LANDED ON THE MOON. Apollo 13 had to abort so Tom Hanks didn't make it as you'd know from your "history sources" (Ha ha !)
.
NASA employed over 35,000 people at the time of the Apollo landing plus sub contracters, 400,000 people in all. That is an awful lot of people to fool and NONE of them have ever cried hoax except in your imagination and on your fairy tale funny websites that are full of unsubstantiated schoolboy LIES. Will you never learn? Nah.

Camp Incontinent wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
We can but hope Alek.
.
Mind you it's not just about him, it's about spreading lies which I detest.

Lies? Are you a fully moon buggy or is there a fe moons rocks missing?

What lies am i spreading.


The original moonwalker was Michael Jackson and i believe Jimmy Savile taught him...ever been on top of the pops?

Ah, yes Jimmy Saville. A traveller wasn't he ?

No i believe he was from your community... relative of yours?

Tony Blackburn believed he was a traveller. He may not have been but Blackburn obviously knew him better than you or I.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote: So let's get this straight, ET claims that every Apollo mission from Lovell, Boorman and Anders' first manned orbit of the moon in 1968 (Apollo 7) to the last Lunar landing by Cernan, Schmit and Evans in late 1972 (Apollo 17) was faked despite the fact that every single mission was televised live as it happened and tracked every inch of the way by the Russians and anyone else with a 'scope big enough to see it. And then ET says WE have to prove they happened? Oh no matey, if you are going to make such fantastic claims then it is YOU who has to provide the proof except that you can't, can you, because there is no such proof, because your ideas are total fantasy like most of the mental diarrhoea you spew forth on these pages.

I claim nothing 'ole man moonwalker' What i say is you have provide not one iota if independent evidence of what you allege...not a nits handbag of independent proof! We are not talking about being in space or orbiting but LANDING? The issues is about LANDING. Trying to muddy the atmosphere with anything other than that, is just you avoiding the question of the lack of INDEPENDENT evidence that man ventured out of the disney studios at all...Where is the IND evidence..post it up old man moonwalker or accept that the people are not as gullible and naive as they (you) were in that time .

"The Russian couldn't even monitor there own probes". Who says? Your traveller mates or the funny websites? Idiot. The USSR made mistakes just as the US did on their first attempts BUT THEY LEARNT. (unlike you). Go read the FACTS!
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So how did they all get through the VAB? You keep claiming they couldn't get through it but they DID a dozen times. Landing on the moon with 1/6 earths gravity was only a tiny step compared to what it took to get into space, get to the moon in the first place etc. Do you never learn?
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There is tons of proof the US went to the moon SIX times in all, photos from Indian, Chinese and NASA probes etc etc. Anyone who followed the space race knows it is true, only weasley know-nothing little ****s like you who weren't even born at the time doubt it. Do you think you're being clever (probably). Well, you are the one making the fantastic claims so WHERE IS YOUR PROOF?
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I give up, you are such an imbecile you don't even know when you're beat. You are either the biggest fool of all time or you are suffering from a serious mental health issue, probably the messianic complex, I suspect the latter.

Alekhine wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Alekhine wrote:
You are wasting your time TWP. ET does not have a real opinion on the lunar landings and would not care if a lump of moonrock fell out of the sky and hit him on the head.

So you believe it too? perhaps you would like to do ole man moon walk a favour and post up any independent evidence of man walking on the moon.

To date he hasn't been able to do so.

While i have no interest in what you believe, you could have a think about why moonrock is different from earthrock and why it can't be knocked out with 1 of cement and 5 of sand....

E -Type wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
We can but hope Alek.
.
Mind you it's not just about him, it's about spreading lies which I detest.

Lies? Are you a fully moon buggy or is there a fe moons rocks missing?

What lies am i spreading.


The original moonwalker was Michael Jackson and i believe Jimmy Savile taught him...ever been on top of the pops?

Ah, yes Jimmy Saville. A traveller wasn't he ?

No i believe he was from your community... relative of yours?

Tony Blackburn believed he was a traveller. He may not have been but Blackburn obviously knew him better than you or I.

So because Tony Blackburn thought he was a Traveller he must be...LOL...

Err...what you heard on the radio during gaps between Mud, The Sweet and Mungo Gerry isn't always fact.."Tony Blackburn says!" LOL...says it all.

Has anyone else, besides you and Tony Blackburn, said he was a Traveller? I mean anyone who would/should know...

Jimmy Jangle Jewellery is from your community ... accept your own..are you from Yorkshire? He was.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
Apollo 11, 12, 14, 15, 16 and 17 ALL LANDED ON THE MOON. Apollo 13 had to abort so Tom Hanks didn't make it as you'd know from your "history sources" (Ha ha !)
.
NASA employed over 35,000 people at the time of the Apollo landing plus sub contracters, 400,000 people in all. That is an awful lot of people to fool and NONE of them have ever cried hoax except in your imagination and on your fairy tale funny websites that are full of unsubstantiated schoolboy LIES. Will you never learn? Nah.

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
But, did Blackburn know, Savile was a Bacon Bonce?

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
But, did Blackburn know, Savile was a Bacon Bonce?

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
But, did Blackburn know, Savile was a Bacon Bonce?

you appear to be fluent in gaol lingo and have an almighty chip about the police. anything you'd like to declare?

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:
the only people that obsess about kiddy fiddlers spend their days thinking about fiddling with kids eh camp incontinent?

Camp Incontinent wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:
the only people that obsess about kiddy fiddlers spend their days thinking about fiddling with kids eh camp incontinent?

I bow to your better knowledge.

Soouthchurch59 wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
But, did Blackburn know, Savile was a Bacon Bonce?

you appear to be fluent in gaol lingo and have an almighty chip about the police. anything you'd like to declare?

Does my 'lingo fluency' bother you?

Camp Incontinent wrote:

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
But, did Blackburn know, Savile was a Bacon Bonce?

Judging by his evasiveness during the interview I think he probably did.

Camp Incontinent wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:
the only people that obsess about kiddy fiddlers spend their days thinking about fiddling with kids eh camp incontinent?

I bow to your better knowledge.

With my back to the wall of course !

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote: Apollo 11, 12, 14, 15, 16 and 17 ALL LANDED ON THE MOON. Apollo 13 had to abort so Tom Hanks didn't make it as you'd know from your "history sources" (Ha ha !) . NASA employed over 35,000 people at the time of the Apollo landing plus sub contracters, 400,000 people in all. That is an awful lot of people to fool and NONE of them have ever cried hoax except in your imagination and on your fairy tale funny websites that are full of unsubstantiated schoolboy LIES. Will you never learn? Nah.

Landed on the moon..blah blah blah, Nasa said blah blah blah, Nasa showed blah blah blah, funky Nasa blah blah blah.. Change the record and show the IND proof not what Captain Pugwash said about his ship.

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Soouthchurch59 wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
But, did Blackburn know, Savile was a Bacon Bonce?

you appear to be fluent in gaol lingo and have an almighty chip about the police. anything you'd like to declare?

Does my 'lingo fluency' bother you?

have you considered a name change to camp illiterate?

Camp Incontinent wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:
the only people that obsess about kiddy fiddlers spend their days thinking about fiddling with kids eh camp incontinent?

I bow to your better knowledge.

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:
the only people that obsess about kiddy fiddlers spend their days thinking about fiddling with kids eh camp incontinent?

I bow to your better knowledge.

With my back to the wall of course !

well was going to say be careful 'cos soouthchurch is in the vicinity

Camp Incontinent wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
We can but hope Alek.
.
Mind you it's not just about him, it's about spreading lies which I detest.

Lies? Are you a fully moon buggy or is there a fe moons rocks missing?

What lies am i spreading.


The original moonwalker was Michael Jackson and i believe Jimmy Savile taught him...ever been on top of the pops?

Ah, yes Jimmy Saville. A traveller wasn't he ?

No i believe he was from your community... relative of yours?

Tony Blackburn believed he was a traveller. He may not have been but Blackburn obviously knew him better than you or I.

So because Tony Blackburn thought he was a Traveller he must be...LOL...

Err...what you heard on the radio during gaps between Mud, The Sweet and Mungo Gerry isn't always fact.."Tony Blackburn says!" LOL...says it all.

Has anyone else, besides you and Tony Blackburn, said he was a Traveller? I mean anyone who would/should know...

Jimmy Jangle Jewellery is from your community ... accept your own..are you from Yorkshire? He was.

I merely asked whether he was indeed a traveller and pointed out that Tony Blackburn seemed to believe that he was. I think Blackburn would have been in a far better position to judge than you or I are.
Here is the link. If you don't fancy listening to the whole interview then you can skip to 5:12 and just listen to the final moments.

http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=9CLo8H1QL

Ok

I think Blackburn may well have been right but as I have already said, I don't know and neither do you.

Camp Incontinent wrote:

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
But, did Blackburn know, Savile was a Bacon Bonce?

Judging by his evasiveness during the interview I think he probably did.

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:
not sure mrs asbo's does ethnic

E -Type wrote:

Alekhine wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Alekhine wrote:
You are wasting your time TWP. ET does not have a real opinion on the lunar landings and would not care if a lump of moonrock fell out of the sky and hit him on the head.

So you believe it too? perhaps you would like to do ole man moon walk a favour and post up any independent evidence of man walking on the moon.

To date he hasn't been able to do so.

While i have no interest in what you believe, you could have a think about why moonrock is different from earthrock and why it can't be knocked out with 1 of cement and 5 of sand....

You are of course aware much of the moon rock that was given out was found to be fake! Who is to say the rest that is kept locked up from view and safe from testing is any more reliable..

Do you believe man walked on the moon?

Camp Incontinent wrote:
As soon as the pubs turn out Asbo's about. What was your tipple this evening ? Hand shandy ?

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:
with the very greatest of respect

Soouthchurch59 wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:
not sure mrs asbo's does ethnic

Ha! Is that what she told you?

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote: Apollo 11, 12, 14, 15, 16 and 17 ALL LANDED ON THE MOON. Apollo 13 had to abort so Tom Hanks didn't make it as you'd know from your "history sources" (Ha ha !) . NASA employed over 35,000 people at the time of the Apollo landing plus sub contracters, 400,000 people in all. That is an awful lot of people to fool and NONE of them have ever cried hoax except in your imagination and on your fairy tale funny websites that are full of unsubstantiated schoolboy LIES. Will you never learn? Nah.

Landed on the moon..blah blah blah, Nasa said blah blah blah, Nasa showed blah blah blah, funky Nasa blah blah blah.. Change the record and show the IND proof not what Captain Pugwash said about his ship.

YOU ARE THE ONE MAKING FANTASTIC CLAIMS SO YOU ARE THE ONE WHO HAS TO PROVIDE PROOF ... WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE? YOU HAVEN'T GOT A GRAIN OF VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE HAVE YOU?
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YOU CLAIM WE DIDN'T HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY IN THE 60s/70s BUT DOZENS OF MISSIONS SAY WE DID SO ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG!
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YOU CLAIM WE COULDN'T PASS THROUGH THE VAN ALLEN BELT BUT IT IS CLEAR WE DID EXACTLY THAT MANY TIMES SO ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG!
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TRUTH IS NO PROOF WOULD SATISFY YOU SHORT OF FIRING YOU UP THERE TO SEE FOR YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU ARE COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY FIXATED WITH YOUR CHILDISH FANTASY. NOT THE MARK OF A MAN WHO CLAIMS HE IS MORE INTELLIGENT THAN ANYONE ELSE ON HERE.

Alekhine wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Alekhine wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Alekhine wrote:
You are wasting your time TWP. ET does not have a real opinion on the lunar landings and would not care if a lump of moonrock fell out of the sky and hit him on the head.

So you believe it too? perhaps you would like to do ole man moon walk a favour and post up any independent evidence of man walking on the moon.

To date he hasn't been able to do so.

While i have no interest in what you believe, you could have a think about why moonrock is different from earthrock and why it can't be knocked out with 1 of cement and 5 of sand....

You are of course aware much of the moon rock that was given out was found to be fake! Who is to say the rest that is kept locked up from view and safe from testing is any more reliable..

Do you believe man walked on the moon?

Who cares, you're not interested.

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Soouthchurch59 wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:
not sure mrs asbo's does ethnic

Ha! Is that what she told you?

denial. not just a river in egypt!

E -Type wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
But, did Blackburn know, Savile was a Bacon Bonce?

Judging by his evasiveness during the interview I think he probably did.

Did Jim ever fix you?

E -Type wrote:

Alekhine wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Alekhine wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Alekhine wrote:
You are wasting your time TWP. ET does not have a real opinion on the lunar landings and would not care if a lump of moonrock fell out of the sky and hit him on the head.

So you believe it too? perhaps you would like to do ole man moon walk a favour and post up any independent evidence of man walking on the moon.

To date he hasn't been able to do so.

While i have no interest in what you believe, you could have a think about why moonrock is different from earthrock and why it can't be knocked out with 1 of cement and 5 of sand....

You are of course aware much of the moon rock that was given out was found to be fake! Who is to say the rest that is kept locked up from view and safe from testing is any more reliable..

Do you believe man walked on the moon?

Who cares, you're not interested.

Yes i am...do you think man walk on the moon?

Alekhine wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Alekhine wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Alekhine wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Alekhine wrote:
You are wasting your time TWP. ET does not have a real opinion on the lunar landings and would not care if a lump of moonrock fell out of the sky and hit him on the head.

So you believe it too? perhaps you would like to do ole man moon walk a favour and post up any independent evidence of man walking on the moon.

To date he hasn't been able to do so.

While i have no interest in what you believe, you could have a think about why moonrock is different from earthrock and why it can't be knocked out with 1 of cement and 5 of sand....

You are of course aware much of the moon rock that was given out was found to be fake! Who is to say the rest that is kept locked up from view and safe from testing is any more reliable..

Do you believe man walked on the moon?

Who cares, you're not interested.

Yes i am...do you think man walk on the moon?

All right, i,m not interested. This is, after all, a cannabis string. Should'nt you be abusing somebody?

E -Type wrote:

Alekhine wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Alekhine wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Alekhine wrote:

E -Type wrote:

Alekhine wrote: You are wasting your time TWP. ET does not have a real opinion on the lunar landings and would not care if a lump of moonrock fell out of the sky and hit him on the head.

So you believe it too? perhaps you would like to do ole man moon walk a favour and post up any independent evidence of man walking on the moon. To date he hasn't been able to do so.

While i have no interest in what you believe, you could have a think about why moonrock is different from earthrock and why it can't be knocked out with 1 of cement and 5 of sand....

You are of course aware much of the moon rock that was given out was found to be fake! Who is to say the rest that is kept locked up from view and safe from testing is any more reliable.. Do you believe man walked on the moon?

Who cares, you're not interested.

Yes i am...do you think man walk on the moon?

All right, i,m not interested. This is, after all, a cannabis string. Should'nt you be abusing somebody?

So soooo obvious...you dont believe it...why not?

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth. Buddha

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
"You are using the hearsay of the event"
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HOW WOULD YOU KNOW, YOU HAVEN'T EVEN LOOKED AT THE PILES OF EVIDENCE STUPID. We saw every single probe, orbiter and lander live as it happened, every one was major news and hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people much, much more intelligent and qualified than you scrutinised every step. And you think you know better than all of them? Oh boy, you have really lost it.
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"Have you any proof man passed through this Belt".
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HAVE YOU ANY PROOF THEY DIDN'T?
Apollo 11, 12, 14, 15, 16 and 17 ALL LANDED ON THE MOON. Apollo 13 had to abort so Tom Hanks didn't make it as you'd know from your "history sources" (Ha ha !) . Every single one of these flights plus all the manned lunar orbiters that preceded them had to pass through the VAB twice.
NASA employed over 35,000 people at the time of the Apollo landing plus sub contracters, 400,000 people in all. That is an awful lot of people to fool and NONE of them have ever cried hoax except in your imagination and on your fairy tale funny websites. CHECK YOUR FACTS!
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You still don't understand the concept of Peer Reviews do you? Are you thick or something? It means all claims are scrutinised rigourously by a selection of the best acknowledged independent proven experts in the field before they can be published. THERE IS NO BETTER WAY TO JUDGE CLAIMS.
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CHECK THE FACTS! THEN BE A MAN AND ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG ABOUT THE VAN ALLEN BELT, WRONG ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY AND WRONG TO SAY WE DIDN'T GO TO THE MOON SIX TIMES.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
And the Truth Will Prevail.
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Except in the minds of people like ET who is totally convinced he is right and unable to reassess his opinions in the light of new evidence - actually the definition of dementia!
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In my experience most people judge the world by their own standards by which I mean that, for example, honest people tend to think most people are honest, dishonest people tend to think that most people are dishonest and so on. If ET thinks NASA and the rest of the scientific world is dishonest and scheming that says a lot more about him than it says about the scientific community.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
And the Truth Will Prevail.
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Except in the minds of people like ET who is totally convinced he is right and unable to reassess his opinions in the light of new evidence - actually the definition of dementia!
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In my experience most people judge the world by their own standards by which I mean that, for example, honest people tend to think most people are honest, dishonest people tend to think that most people are dishonest and so on. If ET thinks NASA and the rest of the scientific world is dishonest and scheming that says a lot more about him than it says about the scientific community.

Alekhine wrote:

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth. Buddha

What you believ is real (Take That!)
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When asked about the tooth, Venerable Shi Fazhao (the abbot of the Buddha Tooth Relic Temple) said: 'To me, it has always been real and I have never questioned its authenticity.' As for the dental experts' assessment (that it could not have come from a human), he said: 'They can say all they want, I don't care what they say. If you believe it's real, then it's real.'

E.-Types wrote:

Alekhine wrote:

Soouthchurch59 wrote: Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth. Buddha

What you believ is real (Take That!) . When asked about the tooth, Venerable Shi Fazhao (the abbot of the Buddha Tooth Relic Temple) said: 'To me, it has always been real and I have never questioned its authenticity.' As for the dental experts' assessment (that it could not have come from a human), he said: 'They can say all they want, I don't care what they say. If you believe it's real, then it's real.'

So what do you think is real in regards to the 'moon landings' You still havent answered that question!

Alekhine wrote:

E.-Types wrote:

Alekhine wrote:

Soouthchurch59 wrote: Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth. Buddha

What you believ is real (Take That!) . When asked about the tooth, Venerable Shi Fazhao (the abbot of the Buddha Tooth Relic Temple) said: 'To me, it has always been real and I have never questioned its authenticity.' As for the dental experts' assessment (that it could not have come from a human), he said: 'They can say all they want, I don't care what they say. If you believe it's real, then it's real.'

So what do you think is real in regards to the 'moon landings' You still havent answered that question!

Did you forget to change your logon account?

I have already told you that i am not interested. Believe what you want. That is what the keeper of Buddha's tooth says.