Binmen can't empty bins because of health and safety (From Echo)

I have to say that if the residents were consulted and the majority decision was in favour of loose sacks rather than wheely bins and that is what the council have catered for then I can understand the problem... If I was a bin man I wouldn't want to put my hands down into a bin which could contain syringes!

Just go to Canvey and dump it in the sea.

Just go to Canvey and dump it in the sea.

AndyBSG wrote:
I have to say that if the residents were consulted and the majority decision was in favour of loose sacks rather than wheely bins and that is what the council have catered for then I can understand the problem... If I was a bin man I wouldn't want to put my hands down into a bin which could contain syringes!

I would agree with you if residents were consulted. However, as a resident of Castle Point I am unable to recall being consulted and if I had been I would most certainly have voted for wheely bins.

We were forced by the council to have wheelie bins which take up half the driveway, nobody asked us what we would have preferred the amount of times I have lost count of the times I have had to stop my car in the middle of a busy road to move the bins left across my driveway after emptying.

We were forced by the council to have wheelie bins which take up half the driveway, nobody asked us what we would have preferred the amount of times I have lost count of the times I have had to stop my car in the middle of a busy road to move the bins left across my driveway after emptying.

They have to collect any spilt rubbish within 6 feet of where the bag split. However castle point dustman do not.

Why they cannot empty bins, I have no idea.

The word jobsworth comes to my mind.

Another case of health and safety making a mockery of a job. What happened before all these silly health and safety laws came in? People could live their lives is the way I see it.
I can understand having the bins but then castle point should have a way of emptying them if they want residents to use them.

GentleGiant wrote:
They have to collect any spilt rubbish within 6 feet of where the bag split. However castle point dustman do not.

Why they cannot empty bins, I have no idea.

The word jobsworth comes to my mind.

Totally agree, Jobsworth is an understatement.

TherealIndiana wrote:
We were forced by the council to have wheelie bins which take up half the driveway, nobody asked us what we would have preferred the amount of times I have lost count of the times I have had to stop my car in the middle of a busy road to move the bins left across my driveway after emptying.

Either a very small driveway or big bins? Ask them to drop them off at the back door every time they pass by and give them a cup of tea and a biscuit ........

Surely, as the Council never provided the wheely bins in the first place, they have never officially sanctioned their use?

Olivia2847 wrote:

TherealIndiana wrote:
We were forced by the council to have wheelie bins which take up half the driveway, nobody asked us what we would have preferred the amount of times I have lost count of the times I have had to stop my car in the middle of a busy road to move the bins left across my driveway after emptying.

Either a very small driveway or big bins? Ask them to drop them off at the back door every time they pass by and give them a cup of tea and a biscuit ........

Re comment by Olivia2847
In Rochford we have to have 3 bins which DOES take up a lot of space and Yes they do leave them accross the driveways which stops you getting on your drive.

Hathi67 wrote:

Olivia2847 wrote:

TherealIndiana wrote:
We were forced by the council to have wheelie bins which take up half the driveway, nobody asked us what we would have preferred the amount of times I have lost count of the times I have had to stop my car in the middle of a busy road to move the bins left across my driveway after emptying.

Either a very small driveway or big bins? Ask them to drop them off at the back door every time they pass by and give them a cup of tea and a biscuit ........

Re comment by Olivia2847
In Rochford we have to have 3 bins which DOES take up a lot of space and Yes they do leave them accross the driveways which stops you getting on your drive.

Which 'do' .......

Olivia2847 wrote:

TherealIndiana wrote:
We were forced by the council to have wheelie bins which take up half the driveway, nobody asked us what we would have preferred the amount of times I have lost count of the times I have had to stop my car in the middle of a busy road to move the bins left across my driveway after emptying.

Either a very small driveway or big bins? Ask them to drop them off at the back door every time they pass by and give them a cup of tea and a biscuit ........

Should have thought of that before you bought them ......

Olivia2847 wrote:

Olivia2847 wrote:

TherealIndiana wrote: We were forced by the council to have wheelie bins which take up half the driveway, nobody asked us what we would have preferred the amount of times I have lost count of the times I have had to stop my car in the middle of a busy road to move the bins left across my driveway after emptying.

Either a very small driveway or big bins? Ask them to drop them off at the back door every time they pass by and give them a cup of tea and a biscuit ........

Should have thought of that before you bought them ......

You don't get a choice in Rochford District Council.

You have to use the wheely bins they provide (we don't have to buy them though).

Sell the Volvo and buy a smaller car ...

Perhaps the Binmen should be renamed the Bagmen.

Speedysnail wrote:
Another case of health and safety making a mockery of a job. What happened before all these silly health and safety laws came in? People could live their lives is the way I see it.
I can understand having the bins but then castle point should have a way of emptying them if they want residents to use them.

Nicola Litman says that although she can remove the sacks easily enough, she does'nt see why she should have to. The reason why she should is because we have sack collections in castlepoint - we to have bins to store our filled sacks into but unlike Nicola Litman we put the sacks out on collection day. My Mum lives in Hockley and they have bins and Wednesdays are a nightmare with traffic delays etc. There is nothing wrong with our bin men and they are certainly not jobworths

The headline is rather misleading as the Council are not citing Health and Safety as the reason for not emptying bins, but as a small point in workers reaching down into what are quite tall bins. The main reason is that there are no motorised facilities for lifting these bins and the bins are too heavy to be lifted manually, which is a strong Health and Safety point.
The use of these bins may be convenient for this small group of residents but will mean delays and inconvenience for others, so the Council are quite right in their refusal.(Not often I agree with CPBC Officials!!)

Ian P wrote:

AndyBSG wrote:
I have to say that if the residents were consulted and the majority decision was in favour of loose sacks rather than wheely bins and that is what the council have catered for then I can understand the problem... If I was a bin man I wouldn't want to put my hands down into a bin which could contain syringes!

I would agree with you if residents were consulted. However, as a resident of Castle Point I am unable to recall being consulted and if I had been I would most certainly have voted for wheely bins.

Agree with Ian As a resident of Castle Point I have never been consulted about bin bags or wheelie bins. I have however contacted them asking whether we could have wheelie bins because the bags are forver being split open by foxes, cats etc. and the rubbish strewn around. I was told Castle Point would not have wheelie bins because they would have to get different rubbish lorries which lifted the bins.

AndyBSG wrote:
I have to say that if the residents were consulted and the majority decision was in favour of loose sacks rather than wheely bins and that is what the council have catered for then I can understand the problem... If I was a bin man I wouldn't want to put my hands down into a bin which could contain syringes!

lf this country had ANY sense whatsoever they would do what they do in Germany, and probably most other countries in Europe and provide a platform on the back of the dustcart.
This goes upwards, with the bin placed on it and when it gets to the right height it simply tips forward and everything falls out.
Simple, why can`t this country either think of things like that themselves or copy other countries` intelligent approaches? Or is that too difficult for them to do also!

Someone is bitter because they spent money on bins they can't use. Maybe they should have enquired before shelling out the cash. Wheely bins need the hoist on the bqck of the truck to empty them. You can't shoulder them like the old tin bins due to the weight.
Bin men are very hard working and always rush about, you never see hem slacking.
The Rochford triple bin system is fabulous.

Silly woman, why does she think she should be treated differently from anyone else ?

Living in Leigh-on-Sea we have black bags.
I store mine in an ordinary CHEAP plastic dustbin from the corner shop till the last minute,
Lines of wheelie bins are really ugly. There are places where they have to be kept out in front of the property (as in Rectory Lane, Chelmsford where the houses have flights of steps to reach the front doors and narrow sideways between blocks of terraced houses) and all you see is a line of bins down the street all week!.
Some of us in Leigh have garden wheelie bins and YES they ARE often left blocking access to the driveway, and sometimes dumped half on the footpath and half on the grass verge. Also, food waste bins seem to be just chucked down any old where and it there's a windy day ........they get killed by passing vehicles!!!!

what? a load of rubbish?

Would much prefer bins in castle point - but never been asked by the council.

Oh and it is health and safety as they also refuse to empty small black bins in case there are needles etc. inside the bin!

They will however remove the black bags if you do not put a lid on the bin - so we are grateful for that :)

Olivia2847 wrote:

Olivia2847 wrote:

TherealIndiana wrote:
We were forced by the council to have wheelie bins which take up half the driveway, nobody asked us what we would have preferred the amount of times I have lost count of the times I have had to stop my car in the middle of a busy road to move the bins left across my driveway after emptying.

Either a very small driveway or big bins? Ask them to drop them off at the back door every time they pass by and give them a cup of tea and a biscuit ........

Should have thought of that before you bought them ......

In Rochford Council area we did not buy the bins we were supplied them by the council so we had no say in the matter.

The only bin that is of any use to us is the green garden waste - all the others I'm too busy living my life to know what goes in them, and when they get collected. Each Sunday I chuck all our rubbish at Castle Rd tip in Rayleigh.

All this green carbon reducing nonsense - they send out three diffrent types of truck on different days - try getting through Hockley on a 'bin day' - nigh on impossible.

In France each village has loads of huge bins - you put what you want when you want in them. ( A bit like the old days over here)

Oh, and the empty green bin gets left in the middle of the drive - blocking the entrance. Maybe that's standard practice.

Jilly from Leigh wrote:
Living in Leigh-on-Sea we have black bags.
I store mine in an ordinary CHEAP plastic dustbin from the corner shop till the last minute,
Lines of wheelie bins are really ugly. There are places where they have to be kept out in front of the property (as in Rectory Lane, Chelmsford where the houses have flights of steps to reach the front doors and narrow sideways between blocks of terraced houses) and all you see is a line of bins down the street all week!.
Some of us in Leigh have garden wheelie bins and YES they ARE often left blocking access to the driveway, and sometimes dumped half on the footpath and half on the grass verge. Also, food waste bins seem to be just chucked down any old where and it there's a windy day ........they get killed by passing vehicles!!!!

Thank you Jilly I use my bins to keep the horse feed and my polo sticks in !

Crikey, if she lives at house number 12, it looks like she could easily afford to buy the council a wheelie bin truck just to collect her rubbish.

If she's not prepared to do that then she shouldn't be using a wheelie bin as the council does not have the equipment to support collection.

Chris Flunk wrote:
Crikey, if she lives at house number 12, it looks like she could easily afford to buy the council a wheelie bin truck just to collect her rubbish.

If she's not prepared to do that then she shouldn't be using a wheelie bin as the council does not have the equipment to support collection.

Sorry, number 72, not 12.

She lives at both silly!! So she can have her rubbish collected twice. ....

The bin men where I live used to come along our street, get our wheelie bin and then go along the steet and fill the wheelie bin with the other bags along the row of houses, empty it into the rubbish truck and then bring the bin back. Convenient for them and convenient for us. Health and safety has gone mad in this country!!

Strangely enough, bags are more cost effective for the council, than using bins.

Reminds me of the woman from "Colonial House" in Rayleigh, some years ago. The big house on the main road coming up from the weir, on the left.

She was ringing up the council demanding a bigger wheelie bin.

Because she said , " we have eight bedrooms". She was told that the number of bedrooms you have is immaterial.

Olivia2847 wrote:
Sell the Volvo and buy a smaller car ...

I own a Fiesta.......are you just visiting this planet?