Dispersal order used in town centre on man, 52, who ignored police instructions

THE first person has been arrested for drunken behaviour in Basildon town centre under tough new dispersal powers.

Police arrested the 52-year-old, from Basildon, outside Iceland, near the bus station at 1.25pm yesterday.

The man had previously been moved on by police for drunken behaviour and was warned he would be arrested if he returned to the shopping centre within 24 hours, under new dispersal powers introduced a week ago.

A police spokeswoman said: ”We were called to complaints about drunken behaviour outside some shops near the bus station.”

It is understood three other people have been given official warnings to stay away from the town centre for 24 hours, following drunken behaviour.

The dispersal order covers the whole of Basildon town centre and gives police permission to disperse groups of two or more people causing antisocial behaviour.

It will only be enforced for a few weeks, until a more permanent Designated Public Place Order comes into effect.

This cannot be introduced until a consultation has been carried out to check there is sufficient public demand for the scheme.

If it goes through, anyone found drinking alcohol in the town centre could be asked to stop, or have their drink confiscated.

Failure to comply with the request could result in arrest and a maximum £500 fine.

The new powers are being introduced in response to complaints about groups of drunks intimidating other people in the town, particularly at St Martin’s Square, the Towngate Theatre and Basildon Library.

Frank Tomlin, Basildon councillor responsible for community safety, said: “It’s excellent news that someone has been arrested, as it shows we are finally starting to make progress on this difficult issue.

“The police are being given these special powers to crack down on nuisance drunks and they are obviously starting to use them.”

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11:42am Sat 9 Jul 11

bazza 1 says...

At last a bit of old fashioned policing. A big thumbs up for common sense. Perhaps now the majority can finally take back the streets from the drunken bums we see all the time.
At last a bit of old fashioned policing. A big thumbs up for common sense. Perhaps now the majority can finally take back the streets from the drunken bums we see all the time. bazza 1

11:56am Sat 9 Jul 11

belfairs says...

seeing as it was outside Icelands was it Kerry Katona?
seeing as it was outside Icelands was it Kerry Katona? belfairs

12:31pm Sat 9 Jul 11

ShipShape says...

"This cannot be introduced until a consultation has been carried out to check there is sufficient public demand for the scheme."
Where and how will this consultation be carried out? I would like to make sure that the consultants know that I approve and 'demand' the scheme.
"This cannot be introduced until a consultation has been carried out to check there is sufficient public demand for the scheme." Where and how will this consultation be carried out? I would like to make sure that the consultants know that I approve and 'demand' the scheme. ShipShape

2:23pm Sat 9 Jul 11

JohnD'oh says...

belfairs wrote:
seeing as it was outside Icelands was it Kerry Katona?
No. It was her Dad..Eric!
[quote][p][bold]belfairs[/bold] wrote: seeing as it was outside Icelands was it Kerry Katona?[/p][/quote]No. It was her Dad..Eric! JohnD'oh

2:41pm Sat 9 Jul 11

jubbly says...

The Police are going to be kept very busy if it's in Basildon !!!
The Police are going to be kept very busy if it's in Basildon !!! jubbly

3:47pm Sat 9 Jul 11

Young Sage says...

jubbly wrote:
The Police are going to be kept very busy if it's in Basildon !!!
They will also be busy if they pop their heads into Southchuch hall park. There is a gang of drunks that regularly congregate in there and behave appallingly, their language is shocking and they frighten kids (and their parents) by wading about in the duck pond shouting and "looking" for the terrapins that also live in the pond.

You dare to even make eye contact with the scumbags and you get abuse and threatened.

I don't as a rule advocate vigilantism but would make an exception in this case and quite happily disrupt their "parties" and politely suggest they go away, but as the number of revellers can reach up to double figures I'll leave it in the hope that Plod will one day have a word... before the weather changes and they all find somewhere else to meet.
[quote][p][bold]jubbly[/bold] wrote: The Police are going to be kept very busy if it's in Basildon !!![/p][/quote]They will also be busy if they pop their heads into Southchuch hall park. There is a gang of drunks that regularly congregate in there and behave appallingly, their language is shocking and they frighten kids (and their parents) by wading about in the duck pond shouting and "looking" for the terrapins that also live in the pond. You dare to even make eye contact with the scumbags and you get abuse and threatened. I don't as a rule advocate vigilantism but would make an exception in this case and quite happily disrupt their "parties" and politely suggest they go away, but as the number of revellers can reach up to double figures I'll leave it in the hope that Plod will one day have a word... before the weather changes and they all find somewhere else to meet. Young Sage

4:39pm Sat 9 Jul 11

el caballero de la noche says...

A mockery of the sufficient law:

Drunk and disorderly
Drunk and incapable
Breach of the Peace
Threatening Behaviour

ARE ENOUGH.

Drunk in charge of a child
Drunk in charge of a cycle
Swearing in the street (Town Police Clauses)

WHAT MORE DO THE POLICE NEED THESE DAYS ?
A mockery of the sufficient law: Drunk and disorderly Drunk and incapable Breach of the Peace Threatening Behaviour ARE ENOUGH. Drunk in charge of a child Drunk in charge of a cycle Swearing in the street (Town Police Clauses) WHAT MORE DO THE POLICE NEED THESE DAYS ? el caballero de la noche

5:30pm Sat 9 Jul 11

save southend says...

WHAT IS NEEDED IN TOWN CENTERS IS REAL POLICE NOT PRETEND ONES WITH NO POWERS AND EVEN LESS GUTS TO DEAL WITH REAL PROBLEMS , ONCE LOADED WITH THEIR GRUB THEY SCUTTLE BACK TO BASE NERVOUSLY TWIDDLING WITH THE RADIO TO LOOK INPORTANT, LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS , YOU PAY IN TO THE POLICE EVERY YEAR WHEN YOU WANT ONE YOU GET AN IDIOT WHO BABBLES ON FOR A WHILE THEN SAYS I WILL GET AN OFFICER, IMAGINE CALLING THE GAS BOARD FOR AN EMERGENCY AND A NUMPTY TURNS UP LOOKS AT THE LEAK AND SAYS YOU NEED A GAS FITTER! PLENTY OF LAWS BUT NO ONE WANTS TO BE BOTHERED
WHAT IS NEEDED IN TOWN CENTERS IS REAL POLICE NOT PRETEND ONES WITH NO POWERS AND EVEN LESS GUTS TO DEAL WITH REAL PROBLEMS , ONCE LOADED WITH THEIR GRUB THEY SCUTTLE BACK TO BASE NERVOUSLY TWIDDLING WITH THE RADIO TO LOOK INPORTANT, LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS , YOU PAY IN TO THE POLICE EVERY YEAR WHEN YOU WANT ONE YOU GET AN IDIOT WHO BABBLES ON FOR A WHILE THEN SAYS I WILL GET AN OFFICER, IMAGINE CALLING THE GAS BOARD FOR AN EMERGENCY AND A NUMPTY TURNS UP LOOKS AT THE LEAK AND SAYS YOU NEED A GAS FITTER! PLENTY OF LAWS BUT NO ONE WANTS TO BE BOTHERED save southend

6:18pm Sat 9 Jul 11

Last Poster says...

save southend wrote:
WHAT IS NEEDED IN TOWN CENTERS IS REAL POLICE NOT PRETEND ONES WITH NO POWERS AND EVEN LESS GUTS TO DEAL WITH REAL PROBLEMS , ONCE LOADED WITH THEIR GRUB THEY SCUTTLE BACK TO BASE NERVOUSLY TWIDDLING WITH THE RADIO TO LOOK INPORTANT, LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS , YOU PAY IN TO THE POLICE EVERY YEAR WHEN YOU WANT ONE YOU GET AN IDIOT WHO BABBLES ON FOR A WHILE THEN SAYS I WILL GET AN OFFICER, IMAGINE CALLING THE GAS BOARD FOR AN EMERGENCY AND A NUMPTY TURNS UP LOOKS AT THE LEAK AND SAYS YOU NEED A GAS FITTER! PLENTY OF LAWS BUT NO ONE WANTS TO BE BOTHERED
Great for you to say, but it was you( The "General" public) that made it way too difficult for our Police force to take action against an individual, helped on by some weirdo chiefs of police who tried to justify their far too high pay by introducing stupid standards that the bobbies have to work to. Plus the never ending desire or the Tories to privatise where possible, thereby giving us the "Can't Prosecute Service!" Put it all back where it was and real standards will re-appear!
[quote][p][bold]save southend[/bold] wrote: WHAT IS NEEDED IN TOWN CENTERS IS REAL POLICE NOT PRETEND ONES WITH NO POWERS AND EVEN LESS GUTS TO DEAL WITH REAL PROBLEMS , ONCE LOADED WITH THEIR GRUB THEY SCUTTLE BACK TO BASE NERVOUSLY TWIDDLING WITH THE RADIO TO LOOK INPORTANT, LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS , YOU PAY IN TO THE POLICE EVERY YEAR WHEN YOU WANT ONE YOU GET AN IDIOT WHO BABBLES ON FOR A WHILE THEN SAYS I WILL GET AN OFFICER, IMAGINE CALLING THE GAS BOARD FOR AN EMERGENCY AND A NUMPTY TURNS UP LOOKS AT THE LEAK AND SAYS YOU NEED A GAS FITTER! PLENTY OF LAWS BUT NO ONE WANTS TO BE BOTHERED[/p][/quote]Great for you to say, but it was you( The "General" public) that made it way too difficult for our Police force to take action against an individual, helped on by some weirdo chiefs of police who tried to justify their far too high pay by introducing stupid standards that the bobbies have to work to. Plus the never ending desire or the Tories to privatise where possible, thereby giving us the "Can't Prosecute Service!" Put it all back where it was and real standards will re-appear! Last Poster

7:18pm Sat 9 Jul 11

el caballero de la noche says...

Last Poster wrote:
save southend wrote:
WHAT IS NEEDED IN TOWN CENTERS IS REAL POLICE NOT PRETEND ONES WITH NO POWERS AND EVEN LESS GUTS TO DEAL WITH REAL PROBLEMS , ONCE LOADED WITH THEIR GRUB THEY SCUTTLE BACK TO BASE NERVOUSLY TWIDDLING WITH THE RADIO TO LOOK INPORTANT, LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS , YOU PAY IN TO THE POLICE EVERY YEAR WHEN YOU WANT ONE YOU GET AN IDIOT WHO BABBLES ON FOR A WHILE THEN SAYS I WILL GET AN OFFICER, IMAGINE CALLING THE GAS BOARD FOR AN EMERGENCY AND A NUMPTY TURNS UP LOOKS AT THE LEAK AND SAYS YOU NEED A GAS FITTER! PLENTY OF LAWS BUT NO ONE WANTS TO BE BOTHERED
Great for you to say, but it was you( The "General" public) that made it way too difficult for our Police force to take action against an individual, helped on by some weirdo chiefs of police who tried to justify their far too high pay by introducing stupid standards that the bobbies have to work to. Plus the never ending desire or the Tories to privatise where possible, thereby giving us the "Can't Prosecute Service!" Put it all back where it was and real standards will re-appear!
Emm Quite a distortion of the truth !!

Hardly the fault of any poster on here OR the general Public other than they voted in a Government set on revenge after the defeat of the Unions and Scargill by the Tories.

The Police had their hands tied by laws allowing the Human Rights of criminals and illegal immigrants to take priority over the rights of the victims.

They reduced the powers of the courts by introducing fixed penalty notices for criminal offences which rarely get paid.

They introduced PCSO's that are a worthless dismal failure.

They reduced prison sentences by half on conviction.

As for the time before the CPS it was the Police who made the decision to prosecute sometimes the Charge Sergeant at a Police station before the total amount of evidence was known something open to abuse, corruption and allegations of favouritism which the public did not want.

The Tories once the party of law and Order have totally lost the plot with false promises and decisions now taken that pacify the Liberal elite of the Liberal party.

As for privatising thank God they did, I can just visualise where we would be now with 'Red Robo and Arthur Scargill' having their filthy hands on the reigns with strike after strike at Leylands, Fords, The NCB, The Docks, the continual power cuts, the rubbish piles, crematoriums on strike, teachers on strike.

Whoever is in power now at least the power of the unions was crushed thank God.
[quote][p][bold]Last Poster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]save southend[/bold] wrote: WHAT IS NEEDED IN TOWN CENTERS IS REAL POLICE NOT PRETEND ONES WITH NO POWERS AND EVEN LESS GUTS TO DEAL WITH REAL PROBLEMS , ONCE LOADED WITH THEIR GRUB THEY SCUTTLE BACK TO BASE NERVOUSLY TWIDDLING WITH THE RADIO TO LOOK INPORTANT, LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS , YOU PAY IN TO THE POLICE EVERY YEAR WHEN YOU WANT ONE YOU GET AN IDIOT WHO BABBLES ON FOR A WHILE THEN SAYS I WILL GET AN OFFICER, IMAGINE CALLING THE GAS BOARD FOR AN EMERGENCY AND A NUMPTY TURNS UP LOOKS AT THE LEAK AND SAYS YOU NEED A GAS FITTER! PLENTY OF LAWS BUT NO ONE WANTS TO BE BOTHERED[/p][/quote]Great for you to say, but it was you( The "General" public) that made it way too difficult for our Police force to take action against an individual, helped on by some weirdo chiefs of police who tried to justify their far too high pay by introducing stupid standards that the bobbies have to work to. Plus the never ending desire or the Tories to privatise where possible, thereby giving us the "Can't Prosecute Service!" Put it all back where it was and real standards will re-appear![/p][/quote]Emm Quite a distortion of the truth !! Hardly the fault of any poster on here OR the general Public other than they voted in a Government set on revenge after the defeat of the Unions and Scargill by the Tories. The Police had their hands tied by laws allowing the Human Rights of criminals and illegal immigrants to take priority over the rights of the victims. They reduced the powers of the courts by introducing fixed penalty notices for criminal offences which rarely get paid. They introduced PCSO's that are a worthless dismal failure. They reduced prison sentences by half on conviction. As for the time before the CPS it was the Police who made the decision to prosecute sometimes the Charge Sergeant at a Police station before the total amount of evidence was known something open to abuse, corruption and allegations of favouritism which the public did not want. The Tories once the party of law and Order have totally lost the plot with false promises and decisions now taken that pacify the Liberal elite of the Liberal party. As for privatising thank God they did, I can just visualise where we would be now with 'Red Robo and Arthur Scargill' having their filthy hands on the reigns with strike after strike at Leylands, Fords, The NCB, The Docks, the continual power cuts, the rubbish piles, crematoriums on strike, teachers on strike. Whoever is in power now at least the power of the unions was crushed thank God. el caballero de la noche

2:49am Sun 10 Jul 11

152 says...

I love Young Sages comment about the drunkards climbing in to the pond at Southchurch Park looking for terrapins.
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It give a whole new meaning to the expression 'pond life' often used to describe people of that nature.
I love Young Sages comment about the drunkards climbing in to the pond at Southchurch Park looking for terrapins. . It give a whole new meaning to the expression 'pond life' often used to describe people of that nature. 152

7:32pm Sun 10 Jul 11

stropmag says...

el caballero de la noche wrote:
A mockery of the sufficient law:

Drunk and disorderly
Drunk and incapable
Breach of the Peace
Threatening Behaviour

ARE ENOUGH.

Drunk in charge of a child
Drunk in charge of a cycle
Swearing in the street (Town Police Clauses)

WHAT MORE DO THE POLICE NEED THESE DAYS ?
My initial thoughts exactly. This has however brought to mind a tale I heard many years ago that tended to illustrate the shifting attitudes amongst the magistracy.
A police constable was giving evidence of an offence of being drunk and disorderly. All the evidence of drunkenness was accepted but the disorderly element revolved around the use of words by the accused when asked to desist from using inappropriate language in the street. The accused was alleged to have told the officer to "F***k off". The magistrate enquired of the officer "Surely that sort of language is common parlance in this day and age, it can hardly be considered disorderly?". "F***k off, your honour!" replied the constable.
[quote][p][bold]el caballero de la noche[/bold] wrote: A mockery of the sufficient law: Drunk and disorderly Drunk and incapable Breach of the Peace Threatening Behaviour ARE ENOUGH. Drunk in charge of a child Drunk in charge of a cycle Swearing in the street (Town Police Clauses) WHAT MORE DO THE POLICE NEED THESE DAYS ?[/p][/quote]My initial thoughts exactly. This has however brought to mind a tale I heard many years ago that tended to illustrate the shifting attitudes amongst the magistracy. A police constable was giving evidence of an offence of being drunk and disorderly. All the evidence of drunkenness was accepted but the disorderly element revolved around the use of words by the accused when asked to desist from using inappropriate language in the street. The accused was alleged to have told the officer to "F***k off". The magistrate enquired of the officer "Surely that sort of language is common parlance in this day and age, it can hardly be considered disorderly?". "F***k off, your honour!" replied the constable. stropmag

1:46am Mon 11 Jul 11

Time says...

el caballero de la noche wrote:
A mockery of the sufficient law:

Drunk and disorderly
Drunk and incapable
Breach of the Peace
Threatening Behaviour

ARE ENOUGH.

Drunk in charge of a child
Drunk in charge of a cycle
Swearing in the street (Town Police Clauses)

WHAT MORE DO THE POLICE NEED THESE DAYS ?
The Police have certain issues when it comes to arresting drunks, the first being if they are that drunk that they fall into one of the above offence groups, if they do make it past the custody door, you dont tie up just one Police Officer, you end up taking 2 or 3 of the street, drunks need to be watched to ensure they don't pass out and choke to death on their own puke, most drunks are then kicked out of custody when they have sobered up a bit. Good use of the Police time? NO. If they do make it to court, they normally get off with a fine, worth the 8 hours of work that the Police put into it? NO. If I have a bunch of drunks outside my shop and the mere presence of the PCSO moving in their direction makes them go, then its job done for me, or if the PCSO turns up and takes their drink away and they go, its job done for me and I am happy. If the PCSO turns up takes their drink, fines them for drinking in the street, does some checks, get the Proper Police down and some of them get arrested for having outstanding warrents and the rest go, its job done for me. I am happy, and thats a much much better use of tax payers money then having all of Essex Police baby sitting drunks. But I can tell its what some of you want, so I would love to see your faces when you dial 999 only to be told there is no one free due to several drunk arrests, or your job is deemed low crime so you will see someone when we are free. "bla bla I pay my taxes send someone now, bla bla"
[quote][p][bold]el caballero de la noche[/bold] wrote: A mockery of the sufficient law: Drunk and disorderly Drunk and incapable Breach of the Peace Threatening Behaviour ARE ENOUGH. Drunk in charge of a child Drunk in charge of a cycle Swearing in the street (Town Police Clauses) WHAT MORE DO THE POLICE NEED THESE DAYS ?[/p][/quote]The Police have certain issues when it comes to arresting drunks, the first being if they are that drunk that they fall into one of the above offence groups, if they do make it past the custody door, you dont tie up just one Police Officer, you end up taking 2 or 3 of the street, drunks need to be watched to ensure they don't pass out and choke to death on their own puke, most drunks are then kicked out of custody when they have sobered up a bit. Good use of the Police time? NO. If they do make it to court, they normally get off with a fine, worth the 8 hours of work that the Police put into it? NO. If I have a bunch of drunks outside my shop and the mere presence of the PCSO moving in their direction makes them go, then its job done for me, or if the PCSO turns up and takes their drink away and they go, its job done for me and I am happy. If the PCSO turns up takes their drink, fines them for drinking in the street, does some checks, get the Proper Police down and some of them get arrested for having outstanding warrents and the rest go, its job done for me. I am happy, and thats a much much better use of tax payers money then having all of Essex Police baby sitting drunks. But I can tell its what some of you want, so I would love to see your faces when you dial 999 only to be told there is no one free due to several drunk arrests, or your job is deemed low crime so you will see someone when we are free. "bla bla I pay my taxes send someone now, bla bla" Time

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