Multi-million-pound road could be redesigned to stop gang of bikers terrorising Canvey

Set for changes? - Ray Howard at Roscommon Way extension

Set for changes? - Ray Howard at Roscommon Way extension

First published in News

A MULTI-MILLION-POUND new road could be redesigned to help stop a gang of young bikers terrorising the people of Canvey.

The £18.5million Roscommon Way extension was opened in January in a bid to ease traffic and help Charfleets Industrial Estate on Canvey expand.

However, yobs have been using the road as a racetrack since September, causing misery for residents by revving their engines, honking their horns and causing damage to the road in the early hours.

Now Essex Police has revealed plans could be in the pipeline for alterations to be made to the road in a bid to put an end to the problem.

An Essex Police spokesperson said: “Our policing operations to combat anti-social bikers on Roscommon Way appear to have only fixed the problem short term. We are looking into a more robust way of combating the problem in the long term.

“We are continuing to liaise with the highways authority in a bid to alter the road layout to prevent such dangerous riding.”

The plans could include introducing traffic calming measures such as speed humps or chicanes to force motorists to slow down.

This comes after news the problem has been getting worse as residents have reported bikers racing down streets right across the island.

County councillor Ray Howard, who has been inundated with concerns, said: “The noise from these bikers is unbelievable. They just do circuits round Roscommon Way and Northwick Road, waking people up in the early hours which is just not acceptable.

“Now I’m getting complaints from people right across Canvey, saying they are now using the one-way system in the town which is such a shame as the roads round there have only been recently refurbished. It’s getting worse and something needs to be done.”

The Police spokesperson added: “We are continuing to provide both high visibility and covert patrols as we look to eradicate the problem and prosecute the individuals who are causing the nuisance.”

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1:30pm Fri 28 Dec 12

bob7 says...

If these people are committing offences why go to the expense of changing the road? Catch them, ban them, destroy their bikes.
If these people are committing offences why go to the expense of changing the road? Catch them, ban them, destroy their bikes. bob7
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1:39pm Fri 28 Dec 12

John T Pharro says...

bob7 wrote:
If these people are committing offences why go to the expense of changing the road? Catch them, ban them, destroy their bikes.
Plus fine them, lots.
[quote][p][bold]bob7[/bold] wrote: If these people are committing offences why go to the expense of changing the road? Catch them, ban them, destroy their bikes.[/p][/quote]Plus fine them, lots. John T Pharro
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1:59pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Soouthchurch59 says...

A classic/costly example of using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.... On a bike!
A classic/costly example of using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.... On a bike! Soouthchurch59
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2:05pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Nebs says...

John T Pharro wrote:
bob7 wrote:
If these people are committing offences why go to the expense of changing the road? Catch them, ban them, destroy their bikes.
Plus fine them, lots.
Nice idea, I am sure the residents and the police would agree with you. All you have to do now is get the judges to change their policy of letting everyone off.
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bob7[/bold] wrote: If these people are committing offences why go to the expense of changing the road? Catch them, ban them, destroy their bikes.[/p][/quote]Plus fine them, lots.[/p][/quote]Nice idea, I am sure the residents and the police would agree with you. All you have to do now is get the judges to change their policy of letting everyone off. Nebs
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2:15pm Fri 28 Dec 12

MrFrogFace says...

What an absolute waste of hard earned tax payers money.
Total white elephant and I don't know who was more sucked in as us the small general public always knew it was a road to nowhere.
Where are the so called jobs Cllr Howard that this new road was going to bring
What an absolute waste of hard earned tax payers money. Total white elephant and I don't know who was more sucked in as us the small general public always knew it was a road to nowhere. Where are the so called jobs Cllr Howard that this new road was going to bring MrFrogFace
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3:03pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Elaine41 says...

How ludicrous! So us normal drivers have got to suffer the road calming measures, which of course will put people off using the road even more. What happened to law and order ????
How ludicrous! So us normal drivers have got to suffer the road calming measures, which of course will put people off using the road even more. What happened to law and order ???? Elaine41
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3:12pm Fri 28 Dec 12

MrFrogFace says...

Elaine41 wrote:
How ludicrous! So us normal drivers have got to suffer the road calming measures, which of course will put people off using the road even more. What happened to law and order ????
There isn't any since Cllr Howard and his cronies the Tory party decided to cut the budgets for the police
[quote][p][bold]Elaine41[/bold] wrote: How ludicrous! So us normal drivers have got to suffer the road calming measures, which of course will put people off using the road even more. What happened to law and order ????[/p][/quote]There isn't any since Cllr Howard and his cronies the Tory party decided to cut the budgets for the police MrFrogFace
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3:38pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Keptquiettillnow says...

bob7 wrote:
If these people are committing offences why go to the expense of changing the road? Catch them, ban them, destroy their bikes.
Just a big fine and a few points is all it takes to put an end to this type of thing.
[quote][p][bold]bob7[/bold] wrote: If these people are committing offences why go to the expense of changing the road? Catch them, ban them, destroy their bikes.[/p][/quote]Just a big fine and a few points is all it takes to put an end to this type of thing. Keptquiettillnow
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4:21pm Fri 28 Dec 12

John T Pharro says...

I don't know if you ever read posts, but if you do I suggest you have a big re-think, because if it was your idea to have a virtually new road now altered as you suggest you are going to have some very unhappy residents if it goes ahead.
I thing Mr Frogface and Elaine summarise what a lot of residents think about this road.
I don't know if you ever read posts, but if you do I suggest you have a big re-think, because if it was your idea to have a virtually new road now altered as you suggest you are going to have some very unhappy residents if it goes ahead. I thing Mr Frogface and Elaine summarise what a lot of residents think about this road. John T Pharro
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4:22pm Fri 28 Dec 12

John T Pharro says...

John T Pharro wrote:
I don't know if you ever read posts, but if you do I suggest you have a big re-think, because if it was your idea to have a virtually new road now altered as you suggest you are going to have some very unhappy residents if it goes ahead.
I thing Mr Frogface and Elaine summarise what a lot of residents think about this road.
Meant of course to mention it is Councillor Howard this should be addressed to.
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: I don't know if you ever read posts, but if you do I suggest you have a big re-think, because if it was your idea to have a virtually new road now altered as you suggest you are going to have some very unhappy residents if it goes ahead. I thing Mr Frogface and Elaine summarise what a lot of residents think about this road.[/p][/quote]Meant of course to mention it is Councillor Howard this should be addressed to. John T Pharro
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5:30pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Carnabackable says...

MrFrogFace wrote:
Elaine41 wrote:
How ludicrous! So us normal drivers have got to suffer the road calming measures, which of course will put people off using the road even more. What happened to law and order ????
There isn't any since Cllr Howard and his cronies the Tory party decided to cut the budgets for the police
Cut the Police, enjoy cuts to crime busting=Simples
[quote][p][bold]MrFrogFace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Elaine41[/bold] wrote: How ludicrous! So us normal drivers have got to suffer the road calming measures, which of course will put people off using the road even more. What happened to law and order ????[/p][/quote]There isn't any since Cllr Howard and his cronies the Tory party decided to cut the budgets for the police[/p][/quote]Cut the Police, enjoy cuts to crime busting=Simples Carnabackable
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6:14pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Carnabackable says...

John T Pharro wrote:
I don't know if you ever read posts, but if you do I suggest you have a big re-think, because if it was your idea to have a virtually new road now altered as you suggest you are going to have some very unhappy residents if it goes ahead.
I thing Mr Frogface and Elaine summarise what a lot of residents think about this road.
residents? this road bypasses an industrial estate and fields, not growing much...DOH
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: I don't know if you ever read posts, but if you do I suggest you have a big re-think, because if it was your idea to have a virtually new road now altered as you suggest you are going to have some very unhappy residents if it goes ahead. I thing Mr Frogface and Elaine summarise what a lot of residents think about this road.[/p][/quote]residents? this road bypasses an industrial estate and fields, not growing much...DOH Carnabackable
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6:35pm Fri 28 Dec 12

upset says...

Just crush one bike and the others will stop, just make sure it's a very expensive bike.
Come on, the laws are there, just get some BALLS and use them, the next thing we will be told by the police is "close all the shops, that will stop the gun toting robbers from holding them up"
In my mind the police officer who said, change the road lay out should be sacked, its a cop out (excuse the pun).
Just crush one bike and the others will stop, just make sure it's a very expensive bike. Come on, the laws are there, just get some BALLS and use them, the next thing we will be told by the police is "close all the shops, that will stop the gun toting robbers from holding them up" In my mind the police officer who said, change the road lay out should be sacked, its a cop out (excuse the pun). upset
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6:37pm Fri 28 Dec 12

John T Pharro says...

Carnabackable wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
I don't know if you ever read posts, but if you do I suggest you have a big re-think, because if it was your idea to have a virtually new road now altered as you suggest you are going to have some very unhappy residents if it goes ahead.
I thing Mr Frogface and Elaine summarise what a lot of residents think about this road.
residents? this road bypasses an industrial estate and fields, not growing much...DOH
Which is why the residents questioned, among other things such as a road to Thorney Bay campsite for the benefit of the owners. Double DOH!! Catch up.
[quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: I don't know if you ever read posts, but if you do I suggest you have a big re-think, because if it was your idea to have a virtually new road now altered as you suggest you are going to have some very unhappy residents if it goes ahead. I thing Mr Frogface and Elaine summarise what a lot of residents think about this road.[/p][/quote]residents? this road bypasses an industrial estate and fields, not growing much...DOH[/p][/quote]Which is why the residents questioned, among other things such as a road to Thorney Bay campsite for the benefit of the owners. Double DOH!! Catch up. John T Pharro
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6:46pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Carnabackable says...

John T Pharro wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
I don't know if you ever read posts, but if you do I suggest you have a big re-think, because if it was your idea to have a virtually new road now altered as you suggest you are going to have some very unhappy residents if it goes ahead.
I thing Mr Frogface and Elaine summarise what a lot of residents think about this road.
residents? this road bypasses an industrial estate and fields, not growing much...DOH
Which is why the residents questioned, among other things such as a road to Thorney Bay campsite for the benefit of the owners. Double DOH!! Catch up.
Doh... catchup, I think you might be feeling rather embarrassed, as you realise what you've just said. However I'm mindful of your desire to post a reply, exceeding my post....
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: I don't know if you ever read posts, but if you do I suggest you have a big re-think, because if it was your idea to have a virtually new road now altered as you suggest you are going to have some very unhappy residents if it goes ahead. I thing Mr Frogface and Elaine summarise what a lot of residents think about this road.[/p][/quote]residents? this road bypasses an industrial estate and fields, not growing much...DOH[/p][/quote]Which is why the residents questioned, among other things such as a road to Thorney Bay campsite for the benefit of the owners. Double DOH!! Catch up.[/p][/quote]Doh... catchup, I think you might be feeling rather embarrassed, as you realise what you've just said. However I'm mindful of your desire to post a reply, exceeding my post.... Carnabackable
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7:47pm Fri 28 Dec 12

EssexPerson says...

I said it before and I'll say it again, this area has always had a "race-track" of sorts ever since the Morrisons store was added, they used the previous layout as a race track.
Howard has been campaigning for years saying he will stop the racers but what does he do, buys them a £20million race track to use.
The man and those who signed off this pointless road should be saacked, in its current usage very few cars use it, and the trucks and heavy goods vehicles (which he claimed the road would be used for) still go down the old routes and rarely use this road.
How did he and the authorities not know this would happen!?!
I said it before and I'll say it again, this area has always had a "race-track" of sorts ever since the Morrisons store was added, they used the previous layout as a race track. Howard has been campaigning for years saying he will stop the racers but what does he do, buys them a £20million race track to use. The man and those who signed off this pointless road should be saacked, in its current usage very few cars use it, and the trucks and heavy goods vehicles (which he claimed the road would be used for) still go down the old routes and rarely use this road. How did he and the authorities not know this would happen!?! EssexPerson
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7:53pm Fri 28 Dec 12

canvey1234 says...

I think it is a good place for young people to learn how to ride their motorcycles at high speeds.
I think it is a good place for young people to learn how to ride their motorcycles at high speeds. canvey1234
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8:02pm Fri 28 Dec 12

shoebury52 says...

Points bans and new road layouts won't do anything, what it will take is for one of these idiots to die. Then all the brain dead waster of friends will hold traffic up laying flowers
Points bans and new road layouts won't do anything, what it will take is for one of these idiots to die. Then all the brain dead waster of friends will hold traffic up laying flowers shoebury52
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8:17pm Fri 28 Dec 12

pendulum says...

They really are useless aren't they, don't have a bloody clue.

If the same group of young bikers are causing a nuisance, CATCH THEM and PROSECUTE THEM. Don't waste so much money on stupid road changes that negatively affect everyone.
They really are useless aren't they, don't have a bloody clue. If the same group of young bikers are causing a nuisance, CATCH THEM and PROSECUTE THEM. Don't waste so much money on stupid road changes that negatively affect everyone. pendulum
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10:34pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Brunning999 says...

Am I the only one that thinks we have spend more than enough on worthless causes?
Am I the only one that thinks we have spend more than enough on worthless causes? Brunning999
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10:39pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Brunning999 says...

Another job for the fearsome three Naughty Nick, Radical Ray and Reddy Rebbeca!!

All of which will be out of power soon.
Another job for the fearsome three Naughty Nick, Radical Ray and Reddy Rebbeca!! All of which will be out of power soon. Brunning999
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8:56am Sat 29 Dec 12

canvey1234 says...

I think it is a good place for young people to learn how to ride their motorcycles at high speeds.
I think it is a good place for young people to learn how to ride their motorcycles at high speeds. canvey1234
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9:19am Sat 29 Dec 12

chunkus10 says...

i can not see what the point of this story is???? now if bikers have tax mot an insurance, and are just riding round on noisy bikes whats the problem?? give them a tug and a 7day fix it note to make them make there bikes quieter. i mean changing a whole road lay out cos of noisy bikes please do us a favour and spend our tax money a bit wiser"!!
i can not see what the point of this story is???? now if bikers have tax mot an insurance, and are just riding round on noisy bikes whats the problem?? give them a tug and a 7day fix it note to make them make there bikes quieter. i mean changing a whole road lay out cos of noisy bikes please do us a favour and spend our tax money a bit wiser"!! chunkus10
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9:59am Sat 29 Dec 12

maxell says...

its clearly evident that bikers and car enthusiasts, have a need to show of their machines or hone their there skills , its a shame that this nimby draconian attitude of power that be fail to reconise the needs of all people that from societies that we all live in , if proper places were provided for such activities then the streets would not be used, in my opinion it would seem that you can purchase machines but once owned you cant use them to their full potential, and before anybodys says that track bike are different from street machines, races take place using factory machines, southend, now has lost its street machine night in southend, I beleive so has chelsea, It would not surprise me if the councils are planning a tax on fun, or the right to enjoy what you have purchased, BOO BOO I do find it strange that we must enjoy only the things we are told to enjoy, I suppose it is concevewe are not capable of creating our own pleasures in life which includes fun.
its clearly evident that bikers and car enthusiasts, have a need to show of their machines or hone their there skills , its a shame that this nimby draconian attitude of power that be fail to reconise the needs of all people that from societies that we all live in , if proper places were provided for such activities then the streets would not be used, in my opinion it would seem that you can purchase machines but once owned you cant use them to their full potential, and before anybodys says that track bike are different from street machines, races take place using factory machines, southend, now has lost its street machine night in southend, I beleive so has chelsea, It would not surprise me if the councils are planning a tax on fun, or the right to enjoy what you have purchased, BOO BOO I do find it strange that we must enjoy only the things we are told to enjoy, I suppose it is concevewe are not capable of creating our own pleasures in life which includes fun. maxell
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11:25am Sat 29 Dec 12

John T Pharro says...

Place to hone your skills, use them to their full potential and as you say "racing macines" do have a place to go. They are called race tracks and scramble tracks. Enjoy your fun there.
The roads are for driving on with laid down laws to abide to not to use as race tracks or scrambling tracks.
What do you want next the roads to be used for drag racing or flying airplanes on?
Place to hone your skills, use them to their full potential and as you say "racing macines" do have a place to go. They are called race tracks and scramble tracks. Enjoy your fun there. The roads are for driving on with laid down laws to abide to not to use as race tracks or scrambling tracks. What do you want next the roads to be used for drag racing or flying airplanes on? John T Pharro
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11:36am Sat 29 Dec 12

Ed in says...

chunkus10 wrote:
i can not see what the point of this story is???? now if bikers have tax mot an insurance, and are just riding round on noisy bikes whats the problem?? give them a tug and a 7day fix it note to make them make there bikes quieter. i mean changing a whole road lay out cos of noisy bikes please do us a favour and spend our tax money a bit wiser"!!
Yes but the police are not interested in making bikes exhaust systems comply with the law, which why there are so many ear splitting bikes on the road with illegal aftermarket exhaust systems.

This link from the Essex police website

http://www.essex.pol
ice.uk/be_safe/safer
_motorcycling/enforc
ement.aspx

And i quote:

Although we do not directly target noisy exhaust offences, we understand how frustrating high noise levels can be. When a motorbike is stopped for a more serious issue, we will always look at the exhaust and other aspects of the bike and take action against anything which constitutes an offence.

So I take that to mean unless a rider is being a total tit we couldnt care less how loud his/her bike is.
[quote][p][bold]chunkus10[/bold] wrote: i can not see what the point of this story is???? now if bikers have tax mot an insurance, and are just riding round on noisy bikes whats the problem?? give them a tug and a 7day fix it note to make them make there bikes quieter. i mean changing a whole road lay out cos of noisy bikes please do us a favour and spend our tax money a bit wiser"!![/p][/quote]Yes but the police are not interested in making bikes exhaust systems comply with the law, which why there are so many ear splitting bikes on the road with illegal aftermarket exhaust systems. This link from the Essex police website http://www.essex.pol ice.uk/be_safe/safer _motorcycling/enforc ement.aspx And i quote: Although we do not directly target noisy exhaust offences, we understand how frustrating high noise levels can be. When a motorbike is stopped for a more serious issue, we will always look at the exhaust and other aspects of the bike and take action against anything which constitutes an offence. So I take that to mean unless a rider is being a total tit we couldnt care less how loud his/her bike is. Ed in
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12:55pm Sat 29 Dec 12

EssexPerson says...

maxell wrote:
its clearly evident that bikers and car enthusiasts, have a need to show of their machines or hone their there skills , its a shame that this nimby draconian attitude of power that be fail to reconise the needs of all people that from societies that we all live in , if proper places were provided for such activities then the streets would not be used, in my opinion it would seem that you can purchase machines but once owned you cant use them to their full potential, and before anybodys says that track bike are different from street machines, races take place using factory machines, southend, now has lost its street machine night in southend, I beleive so has chelsea, It would not surprise me if the councils are planning a tax on fun, or the right to enjoy what you have purchased, BOO BOO I do find it strange that we must enjoy only the things we are told to enjoy, I suppose it is concevewe are not capable of creating our own pleasures in life which includes fun.
"Nimby Draconian Attitude of Power", no it's called obeying the law!!!
No one is saying stop having fun, what they are saying is stop acting like morons and illegally racing on public roads and making excessive noise.
Perhaps try to stop being a drain on society!
You say where can people go to hone their skills? Have you heard race tracks? They do something called track days where people can turn up in their cars/bikes and race.
Why should tax payers have to pay for you losers to race about, try using your piggy bank and pocket money that mummy and daddy have given you and pay for a track day yourself in a safer environment.
[quote][p][bold]maxell[/bold] wrote: its clearly evident that bikers and car enthusiasts, have a need to show of their machines or hone their there skills , its a shame that this nimby draconian attitude of power that be fail to reconise the needs of all people that from societies that we all live in , if proper places were provided for such activities then the streets would not be used, in my opinion it would seem that you can purchase machines but once owned you cant use them to their full potential, and before anybodys says that track bike are different from street machines, races take place using factory machines, southend, now has lost its street machine night in southend, I beleive so has chelsea, It would not surprise me if the councils are planning a tax on fun, or the right to enjoy what you have purchased, BOO BOO I do find it strange that we must enjoy only the things we are told to enjoy, I suppose it is concevewe are not capable of creating our own pleasures in life which includes fun.[/p][/quote]"Nimby Draconian Attitude of Power", no it's called obeying the law!!! No one is saying stop having fun, what they are saying is stop acting like morons and illegally racing on public roads and making excessive noise. Perhaps try to stop being a drain on society! You say where can people go to hone their skills? Have you heard race tracks? They do something called track days where people can turn up in their cars/bikes and race. Why should tax payers have to pay for you losers to race about, try using your piggy bank and pocket money that mummy and daddy have given you and pay for a track day yourself in a safer environment. EssexPerson
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1:55pm Sat 29 Dec 12

iknowbetter says...

I think the problem is not the road users but one has to ask why this 18 million pound road was even considered and for what purpose. 18 million pounds is a hell of a lot of money for little or no return.
I think the problem is not the road users but one has to ask why this 18 million pound road was even considered and for what purpose. 18 million pounds is a hell of a lot of money for little or no return. iknowbetter
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2:20pm Sat 29 Dec 12

rjsizzler says...

Stick a couple of speed cameras up. Job done.
Stick a couple of speed cameras up. Job done. rjsizzler
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4:18pm Sat 29 Dec 12

InTheKnowOk says...

Why not build a race track instead?
Why not build a race track instead? InTheKnowOk
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5:12pm Sat 29 Dec 12

John T Pharro says...

Ed in wrote:
chunkus10 wrote:
i can not see what the point of this story is???? now if bikers have tax mot an insurance, and are just riding round on noisy bikes whats the problem?? give them a tug and a 7day fix it note to make them make there bikes quieter. i mean changing a whole road lay out cos of noisy bikes please do us a favour and spend our tax money a bit wiser"!!
Yes but the police are not interested in making bikes exhaust systems comply with the law, which why there are so many ear splitting bikes on the road with illegal aftermarket exhaust systems.

This link from the Essex police website

http://www.essex.pol

ice.uk/be_safe/safer

_motorcycling/enforc

ement.aspx

And i quote:

Although we do not directly target noisy exhaust offences, we understand how frustrating high noise levels can be. When a motorbike is stopped for a more serious issue, we will always look at the exhaust and other aspects of the bike and take action against anything which constitutes an offence.

So I take that to mean unless a rider is being a total tit we couldnt care less how loud his/her bike is.
Does make you wonder why you have a law if you don't impose it. Not the only law not imposed is it? Parking completly obstructing pavements so forced to walk in the road even with a pushchair just one example.
[quote][p][bold]Ed in[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chunkus10[/bold] wrote: i can not see what the point of this story is???? now if bikers have tax mot an insurance, and are just riding round on noisy bikes whats the problem?? give them a tug and a 7day fix it note to make them make there bikes quieter. i mean changing a whole road lay out cos of noisy bikes please do us a favour and spend our tax money a bit wiser"!![/p][/quote]Yes but the police are not interested in making bikes exhaust systems comply with the law, which why there are so many ear splitting bikes on the road with illegal aftermarket exhaust systems. This link from the Essex police website http://www.essex.pol ice.uk/be_safe/safer _motorcycling/enforc ement.aspx And i quote: Although we do not directly target noisy exhaust offences, we understand how frustrating high noise levels can be. When a motorbike is stopped for a more serious issue, we will always look at the exhaust and other aspects of the bike and take action against anything which constitutes an offence. So I take that to mean unless a rider is being a total tit we couldnt care less how loud his/her bike is.[/p][/quote]Does make you wonder why you have a law if you don't impose it. Not the only law not imposed is it? Parking completly obstructing pavements so forced to walk in the road even with a pushchair just one example. John T Pharro
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6:33pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Carnabackable says...

John T Pharro wrote:
Ed in wrote:
chunkus10 wrote:
i can not see what the point of this story is???? now if bikers have tax mot an insurance, and are just riding round on noisy bikes whats the problem?? give them a tug and a 7day fix it note to make them make there bikes quieter. i mean changing a whole road lay out cos of noisy bikes please do us a favour and spend our tax money a bit wiser"!!
Yes but the police are not interested in making bikes exhaust systems comply with the law, which why there are so many ear splitting bikes on the road with illegal aftermarket exhaust systems.

This link from the Essex police website

http://www.essex.pol


ice.uk/be_safe/safer


_motorcycling/enforc


ement.aspx

And i quote:

Although we do not directly target noisy exhaust offences, we understand how frustrating high noise levels can be. When a motorbike is stopped for a more serious issue, we will always look at the exhaust and other aspects of the bike and take action against anything which constitutes an offence.

So I take that to mean unless a rider is being a total tit we couldnt care less how loud his/her bike is.
Does make you wonder why you have a law if you don't impose it. Not the only law not imposed is it? Parking completly obstructing pavements so forced to walk in the road even with a pushchair just one example.
As I said before, this road runs south of an industrial estate, there's no houses, no shops and no access to Thorney bay caravan shyte, and thus no danger, unless your attempting to take your pram between the high kerb, and the path....
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ed in[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chunkus10[/bold] wrote: i can not see what the point of this story is???? now if bikers have tax mot an insurance, and are just riding round on noisy bikes whats the problem?? give them a tug and a 7day fix it note to make them make there bikes quieter. i mean changing a whole road lay out cos of noisy bikes please do us a favour and spend our tax money a bit wiser"!![/p][/quote]Yes but the police are not interested in making bikes exhaust systems comply with the law, which why there are so many ear splitting bikes on the road with illegal aftermarket exhaust systems. This link from the Essex police website http://www.essex.pol ice.uk/be_safe/safer _motorcycling/enforc ement.aspx And i quote: Although we do not directly target noisy exhaust offences, we understand how frustrating high noise levels can be. When a motorbike is stopped for a more serious issue, we will always look at the exhaust and other aspects of the bike and take action against anything which constitutes an offence. So I take that to mean unless a rider is being a total tit we couldnt care less how loud his/her bike is.[/p][/quote]Does make you wonder why you have a law if you don't impose it. Not the only law not imposed is it? Parking completly obstructing pavements so forced to walk in the road even with a pushchair just one example.[/p][/quote]As I said before, this road runs south of an industrial estate, there's no houses, no shops and no access to Thorney bay caravan shyte, and thus no danger, unless your attempting to take your pram between the high kerb, and the path.... Carnabackable
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6:34pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Carnabackable says...

John T Pharro wrote:
Ed in wrote:
chunkus10 wrote:
i can not see what the point of this story is???? now if bikers have tax mot an insurance, and are just riding round on noisy bikes whats the problem?? give them a tug and a 7day fix it note to make them make there bikes quieter. i mean changing a whole road lay out cos of noisy bikes please do us a favour and spend our tax money a bit wiser"!!
Yes but the police are not interested in making bikes exhaust systems comply with the law, which why there are so many ear splitting bikes on the road with illegal aftermarket exhaust systems.

This link from the Essex police website

http://www.essex.pol


ice.uk/be_safe/safer


_motorcycling/enforc


ement.aspx

And i quote:

Although we do not directly target noisy exhaust offences, we understand how frustrating high noise levels can be. When a motorbike is stopped for a more serious issue, we will always look at the exhaust and other aspects of the bike and take action against anything which constitutes an offence.

So I take that to mean unless a rider is being a total tit we couldnt care less how loud his/her bike is.
Does make you wonder why you have a law if you don't impose it. Not the only law not imposed is it? Parking completly obstructing pavements so forced to walk in the road even with a pushchair just one example.
Doh...........
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ed in[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chunkus10[/bold] wrote: i can not see what the point of this story is???? now if bikers have tax mot an insurance, and are just riding round on noisy bikes whats the problem?? give them a tug and a 7day fix it note to make them make there bikes quieter. i mean changing a whole road lay out cos of noisy bikes please do us a favour and spend our tax money a bit wiser"!![/p][/quote]Yes but the police are not interested in making bikes exhaust systems comply with the law, which why there are so many ear splitting bikes on the road with illegal aftermarket exhaust systems. This link from the Essex police website http://www.essex.pol ice.uk/be_safe/safer _motorcycling/enforc ement.aspx And i quote: Although we do not directly target noisy exhaust offences, we understand how frustrating high noise levels can be. When a motorbike is stopped for a more serious issue, we will always look at the exhaust and other aspects of the bike and take action against anything which constitutes an offence. So I take that to mean unless a rider is being a total tit we couldnt care less how loud his/her bike is.[/p][/quote]Does make you wonder why you have a law if you don't impose it. Not the only law not imposed is it? Parking completly obstructing pavements so forced to walk in the road even with a pushchair just one example.[/p][/quote]Doh........... Carnabackable
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9:12pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Nebs says...

EssexPerson wrote:
I said it before and I'll say it again, this area has always had a "race-track" of sorts ever since the Morrisons store was added, they used the previous layout as a race track.
Howard has been campaigning for years saying he will stop the racers but what does he do, buys them a £20million race track to use.
The man and those who signed off this pointless road should be saacked, in its current usage very few cars use it, and the trucks and heavy goods vehicles (which he claimed the road would be used for) still go down the old routes and rarely use this road.
How did he and the authorities not know this would happen!?!
If hardly anyone uses this road, and there is a need for a racetrack, then how about closing the road to regular traffic at weekends and organising races.
[quote][p][bold]EssexPerson[/bold] wrote: I said it before and I'll say it again, this area has always had a "race-track" of sorts ever since the Morrisons store was added, they used the previous layout as a race track. Howard has been campaigning for years saying he will stop the racers but what does he do, buys them a £20million race track to use. The man and those who signed off this pointless road should be saacked, in its current usage very few cars use it, and the trucks and heavy goods vehicles (which he claimed the road would be used for) still go down the old routes and rarely use this road. How did he and the authorities not know this would happen!?![/p][/quote]If hardly anyone uses this road, and there is a need for a racetrack, then how about closing the road to regular traffic at weekends and organising races. Nebs
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9:20pm Sat 29 Dec 12

the.transporter says...

here is a really far out idea...

How about a couple of police bikes out there as well..? Police presence is normally a good way to calm excessive speed. But then I guess the limit is the CPS and the court system to hold up the fines/points/ban or crush result.

I must say I like the idea if no one is on the road get some teams together to have a race track option.

Adding chicanes etc? really? if that is the best then it wont be long before one of them comes off the bike and screams human rights because they scratched the paintwork....
here is a really far out idea... How about a couple of police bikes out there as well..? Police presence is normally a good way to calm excessive speed. But then I guess the limit is the CPS and the court system to hold up the fines/points/ban or crush result. I must say I like the idea if no one is on the road get some teams together to have a race track option. Adding chicanes etc? really? if that is the best then it wont be long before one of them comes off the bike and screams human rights because they scratched the paintwork.... the.transporter
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10:00pm Sat 29 Dec 12

EssexPerson says...

Nebs wrote:
EssexPerson wrote:
I said it before and I'll say it again, this area has always had a "race-track" of sorts ever since the Morrisons store was added, they used the previous layout as a race track.
Howard has been campaigning for years saying he will stop the racers but what does he do, buys them a £20million race track to use.
The man and those who signed off this pointless road should be saacked, in its current usage very few cars use it, and the trucks and heavy goods vehicles (which he claimed the road would be used for) still go down the old routes and rarely use this road.
How did he and the authorities not know this would happen!?!
If hardly anyone uses this road, and there is a need for a racetrack, then how about closing the road to regular traffic at weekends and organising races.
Really!!! No wonder society is failing with ideas like that!! Wow!
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EssexPerson[/bold] wrote: I said it before and I'll say it again, this area has always had a "race-track" of sorts ever since the Morrisons store was added, they used the previous layout as a race track. Howard has been campaigning for years saying he will stop the racers but what does he do, buys them a £20million race track to use. The man and those who signed off this pointless road should be saacked, in its current usage very few cars use it, and the trucks and heavy goods vehicles (which he claimed the road would be used for) still go down the old routes and rarely use this road. How did he and the authorities not know this would happen!?![/p][/quote]If hardly anyone uses this road, and there is a need for a racetrack, then how about closing the road to regular traffic at weekends and organising races.[/p][/quote]Really!!! No wonder society is failing with ideas like that!! Wow! EssexPerson
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12:27am Sun 30 Dec 12

runwellian says...

Any straight road becomes a race track but didn't anyone realise that before the road was built?

Well it is Canvey Island and with councillors like Ray Howard, I guess folk get what they deserve!
Any straight road becomes a race track but didn't anyone realise that before the road was built? Well it is Canvey Island and with councillors like Ray Howard, I guess folk get what they deserve! runwellian
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10:16am Sun 30 Dec 12

DCLEIGH says...

runwellian wrote:
Any straight road becomes a race track but didn't anyone realise that before the road was built?

Well it is Canvey Island and with councillors like Ray Howard, I guess folk get what they deserve!
It is very true that , seemingly, road planners do not fully realise the laws of cause and effect....Look at the mess they have made of the A13 with all the traffic controls driving cars off the A13 and onto local residential roads....
[quote][p][bold]runwellian[/bold] wrote: Any straight road becomes a race track but didn't anyone realise that before the road was built? Well it is Canvey Island and with councillors like Ray Howard, I guess folk get what they deserve![/p][/quote]It is very true that , seemingly, road planners do not fully realise the laws of cause and effect....Look at the mess they have made of the A13 with all the traffic controls driving cars off the A13 and onto local residential roads.... DCLEIGH
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3:55pm Sun 30 Dec 12

r12004 says...

I doubt if the police will do anything, only when and if someone gets killed will they act.
I doubt if the police will do anything, only when and if someone gets killed will they act. r12004
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4:00pm Sun 30 Dec 12

r12004 says...

shoebury52 wrote:
Points bans and new road layouts won't do anything, what it will take is for one of these idiots to die. Then all the brain dead waster of friends will hold traffic up laying flowers
Nice to see you have a positve opinion to bikers !
[quote][p][bold]shoebury52[/bold] wrote: Points bans and new road layouts won't do anything, what it will take is for one of these idiots to die. Then all the brain dead waster of friends will hold traffic up laying flowers[/p][/quote]Nice to see you have a positve opinion to bikers ! r12004
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8:46pm Sun 30 Dec 12

iknowbetter says...

runwellian wrote:
Any straight road becomes a race track but didn't anyone realise that before the road was built?

Well it is Canvey Island and with councillors like Ray Howard, I guess folk get what they deserve!
Only those that voted Tory. :)
[quote][p][bold]runwellian[/bold] wrote: Any straight road becomes a race track but didn't anyone realise that before the road was built? Well it is Canvey Island and with councillors like Ray Howard, I guess folk get what they deserve![/p][/quote]Only those that voted Tory. :) iknowbetter
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9:32pm Sun 30 Dec 12

carpingking says...

Ok so its Sunday at 21 30 the cars R thrashing up this road as I can hear them over my tv and I live about 2miles from the road the p****s are so loud
Ok so its Sunday at 21 30 the cars R thrashing up this road as I can hear them over my tv and I live about 2miles from the road the p****s are so loud carpingking
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10:28pm Sun 30 Dec 12

Carnabackable says...

carpingking wrote:
Ok so its Sunday at 21 30 the cars R thrashing up this road as I can hear them over my tv and I live about 2miles from the road the p****s are so loud
Due to the westerly wind, noise is carried that way....
[quote][p][bold]carpingking[/bold] wrote: Ok so its Sunday at 21 30 the cars R thrashing up this road as I can hear them over my tv and I live about 2miles from the road the p****s are so loud[/p][/quote]Due to the westerly wind, noise is carried that way.... Carnabackable
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12:08am Mon 31 Dec 12

Letmetryagain says...

bob7 wrote:
If these people are committing offences why go to the expense of changing the road? Catch them, ban them, destroy their bikes.
That would be the obvious answer, but that's too easy, and too cheap
[quote][p][bold]bob7[/bold] wrote: If these people are committing offences why go to the expense of changing the road? Catch them, ban them, destroy their bikes.[/p][/quote]That would be the obvious answer, but that's too easy, and too cheap Letmetryagain
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7:52am Mon 31 Dec 12

carpingking says...

Ok so its Sunday at 21 30 the cars R thrashing up this road as I can hear them over my tv and I live about 2miles from the road the p****s are so loud
Ok so its Sunday at 21 30 the cars R thrashing up this road as I can hear them over my tv and I live about 2miles from the road the p****s are so loud carpingking
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11:01am Mon 31 Dec 12

Alekhine says...

What is that terrible whining noise? An illegal end can? - no its the echo website.
What is that terrible whining noise? An illegal end can? - no its the echo website. Alekhine
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8:47pm Mon 31 Dec 12

soul man says...

catch the yobs and give them a good old fashioned beating.

Job done.
catch the yobs and give them a good old fashioned beating. Job done. soul man
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