Shisha bar in trouble for breaching smoking ban

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A SHISHA pipe smoking bar could be shut down... for breaching the smoking ban.

Owner Feroz Khan, 27, opened the Mist Lounge in November hoping to bring the shisha cafe culture to Hadleigh.

But Mr Khan is now under investigation by Castle Point Council, trading standards, environmental health officers and even the police.

However, Mr Khan claims he is being “harassed” by the council and that his business is going up in smoke because of it.

He said: “I am just trying to make an honest living. We have done absolutely everything to comply with the council’s demands and it just seems like they want to do everything in their power to shut us down.

“Before starting up we did a huge amount of research about what the council would require from us, and have taken extreme caution in everything we have done.

“They must’ve come in about eight times with four or five police officers. Its driving away our customers, how is a new business supposed to survive with this level of interference?”

Worried residents and businesses owners were left stunned when a shisha pipe smoking bar was opened overnight inside a marquee tent along London Road.

The council has now served an enforcement notice on the premises alongside police, requesting the owners apply for planning permission within the next two months.

Trading standards and environmental health officers are also investigating the shisha bar, as the current layout of the premises means they are breaking UK smoking laws.

The owners have already been served with three fixed penalty fines for allowing smoking to take place on the site.

The council has also served a precautionary noise abatement notice following complaints from residents that loud music was being played through the night.

A spokesman for the council said: “Since the opening of the Shisha Bar it has been necessary for Officers from four of the Council’s departments to visit – the council tax, planning, environment and licensing departments. The Council officers have been accompanied by the police – in the case of visits from the licensing officers this was a joint visit with the Police licensing officer.

“We have issued three fixed penalty notices on the owners for allowing smoking to take place on the premises. This was only after the owner had ignored advice from the Council as to how he could carry out his business without breaking the law. We have no record of the owner seeking planning advice from the Council before the building opened and no planning application has been received.”

Shisha is a type of syrupy tobacco which can come in a variety of flavours and is legal to smoke in the UK.

Mr Khan says he is now considering taking legal action against the council.

He added: “We’ve opened the tent up more, we’ve put up no smoking signs, we make sure we’re shut by 11pm and with regards to noise, the traffic from London Road is louder than our music. We’re being so cooperative but they just want us out.”

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11:47am Fri 4 Jan 13

Carnabackable says...

Shut it down...
Shut it down... Carnabackable
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12:54pm Fri 4 Jan 13

andy:) says...

Well..unlike the above I wouldnt just say 'shut it down' as a knee jerk reaction BUT it does appear that the owners havnt thought this 'business' through, the issues of smoking and the law even in a covered tent/marquee was bought up before in a previous story..unless people are genuinelly standing outside then smoking is still illegal. The fact that they have no planning permission is surely a concern and the issues of noiuse are also a worry, saying that 'traffic is louder' is hardly addressing the issue. I fail to see how this business can continue plus bear in mind is there really a market for it..in Hadleigh !?
Well..unlike the above I wouldnt just say 'shut it down' as a knee jerk reaction BUT it does appear that the owners havnt thought this 'business' through, the issues of smoking and the law even in a covered tent/marquee was bought up before in a previous story..unless people are genuinelly standing outside then smoking is still illegal. The fact that they have no planning permission is surely a concern and the issues of noiuse are also a worry, saying that 'traffic is louder' is hardly addressing the issue. I fail to see how this business can continue plus bear in mind is there really a market for it..in Hadleigh !? andy:)
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12:55pm Fri 4 Jan 13

OldFairfaxian says...

Smoking is banned in any confined public space. Why should these people think they are a special case and above the law?
Smoking is banned in any confined public space. Why should these people think they are a special case and above the law? OldFairfaxian
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2:00pm Fri 4 Jan 13

Brunning999 says...

How can you be possibly be harassed when the Police and Council are just enforcing our laws?
How can you be possibly be harassed when the Police and Council are just enforcing our laws? Brunning999
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2:03pm Fri 4 Jan 13

onorris24 says...

Well, the whole of hadleigh is is being regenerated and the the shisha bar obviously isnt the kind of thing the council want so they're going to try and remove it, clearly...
Well, the whole of hadleigh is is being regenerated and the the shisha bar obviously isnt the kind of thing the council want so they're going to try and remove it, clearly... onorris24
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2:06pm Fri 4 Jan 13

notinwestcliffanymore says...

SITE FOR FLATS..
SITE FOR FLATS.. notinwestcliffanymore
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2:15pm Fri 4 Jan 13

hesmrknowitall says...

Kick them out turn it into another Take Away!!

Jesus, the only people going in there are the ones who want to smoke, don't let the nanny state corrupt your free thinking mind - our relatives thought for this countries freedom
Kick them out turn it into another Take Away!! Jesus, the only people going in there are the ones who want to smoke, don't let the nanny state corrupt your free thinking mind - our relatives thought for this countries freedom hesmrknowitall
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3:15pm Fri 4 Jan 13

OldFairfaxian says...

Not a question of a nanny state, the point is it's illegal. You can't pick and choose which laws you obey.
Not a question of a nanny state, the point is it's illegal. You can't pick and choose which laws you obey. OldFairfaxian
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3:42pm Fri 4 Jan 13

hesmrknowitall says...

The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke.

Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****
The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke. Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an **** hesmrknowitall
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4:08pm Fri 4 Jan 13

whataday says...

If they had done so much research how come they have ignored the law of the land about smoking.

As other posters has said there are No Smoking laws in England. These laws of the land apply to everybody here living here. Just hope the owners aren't trying to come out with the old codswallop they're being "harassed" because of their race because they're not they are being treated equally. They are being expected to comply with the law of the land.

If they want to flout the law then they must expect the circumstances
If they had done so much research how come they have ignored the law of the land about smoking. As other posters has said there are No Smoking laws in England. These laws of the land apply to everybody here living here. Just hope the owners aren't trying to come out with the old codswallop they're being "harassed" because of their race because they're not they are being treated equally. They are being expected to comply with the law of the land. If they want to flout the law then they must expect the circumstances whataday
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4:29pm Fri 4 Jan 13

soul man says...

its a smoking bar, where one goes to smoke, so how come they were given a license to begin with, some idiot didnt realise the smoking laws, this is not the far east, well actually it may, the far east of essex
its a smoking bar, where one goes to smoke, so how come they were given a license to begin with, some idiot didnt realise the smoking laws, this is not the far east, well actually it may, the far east of essex soul man
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4:52pm Fri 4 Jan 13

firedog says...

They sound like a load of puffs to me.
They sound like a load of puffs to me. firedog
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4:59pm Fri 4 Jan 13

Letmetryagain says...

It's surprising that they haven't played the "racist" card yet.
It's surprising that they haven't played the "racist" card yet. Letmetryagain
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6:06pm Fri 4 Jan 13

mikepaterson says...

soul man wrote:
its a smoking bar, where one goes to smoke, so how come they were given a license to begin with, some idiot didnt realise the smoking laws, this is not the far east, well actually it may, the far east of essex
You do not need a license to sell the tobacco, so they weren't given one.

They are allowed to sell tobacco to those old enough to smoke at their own homes or in open spaces, but not in confined public places such as a marquee.

Nice try boys, but if you rae trying as you say "to make an honest living" then you need to do it legally.
[quote][p][bold]soul man[/bold] wrote: its a smoking bar, where one goes to smoke, so how come they were given a license to begin with, some idiot didnt realise the smoking laws, this is not the far east, well actually it may, the far east of essex[/p][/quote]You do not need a license to sell the tobacco, so they weren't given one. They are allowed to sell tobacco to those old enough to smoke at their own homes or in open spaces, but not in confined public places such as a marquee. Nice try boys, but if you rae trying as you say "to make an honest living" then you need to do it legally. mikepaterson
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7:15pm Fri 4 Jan 13

John T Pharro says...

Mr Khan you cannot "make an honest living" neither have you "done everything to comply with the council's demands" when you totally failed to apply for planning permission in the first place.
I just hope you are billed and paid for all the expenses this has incurred.
That is before we even enter the area of whether what you are doing is legal or not. Plus is your company or you actually registered and if so what as? From what I have read you are supplying tobacco and that requires a licence to sell.
Mr Khan you cannot "make an honest living" neither have you "done everything to comply with the council's demands" when you totally failed to apply for planning permission in the first place. I just hope you are billed and paid for all the expenses this has incurred. That is before we even enter the area of whether what you are doing is legal or not. Plus is your company or you actually registered and if so what as? From what I have read you are supplying tobacco and that requires a licence to sell. John T Pharro
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7:20pm Fri 4 Jan 13

John T Pharro says...

hesmrknowitall wrote:
The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke.

Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****
Actually you can smoke in a public place, you cannot smoke in business premises or places of work.
[quote][p][bold]hesmrknowitall[/bold] wrote: The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke. Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****[/p][/quote]Actually you can smoke in a public place, you cannot smoke in business premises or places of work. John T Pharro
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11:54pm Fri 4 Jan 13

Carnabackable says...

John T Pharro wrote:
hesmrknowitall wrote:
The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke.

Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****
Actually you can smoke in a public place, you cannot smoke in business premises or places of work.
Wrong again..why do you think there are NO SMOKING signs at a bus stop? because there members of the public congregate by them, clear ....
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hesmrknowitall[/bold] wrote: The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke. Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****[/p][/quote]Actually you can smoke in a public place, you cannot smoke in business premises or places of work.[/p][/quote]Wrong again..why do you think there are NO SMOKING signs at a bus stop? because there members of the public congregate by them, clear .... Carnabackable
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12:35am Sat 5 Jan 13

bumper says...

about time law is law i like to see the person or persons who give planing
in the first place find and sacked
for allowing it in the first place to open...
about time law is law i like to see the person or persons who give planing in the first place find and sacked for allowing it in the first place to open... bumper
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1:03am Sat 5 Jan 13

bumper is a .... says...

smoking ban! oh yeh, didn't think of that!
smoking ban! oh yeh, didn't think of that! bumper is a ....
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2:01am Sat 5 Jan 13

Brunning999 says...

If they like the idea so much try a flight with Easy Jet on a one way ticket!

Bye !
If they like the idea so much try a flight with Easy Jet on a one way ticket! Bye ! Brunning999
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2:07pm Sat 5 Jan 13

John T Pharro says...

Carnabackable wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
hesmrknowitall wrote:
The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke.

Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****
Actually you can smoke in a public place, you cannot smoke in business premises or places of work.
Wrong again..why do you think there are NO SMOKING signs at a bus stop? because there members of the public congregate by them, clear ....
Parks and streets are all public places and you are allowed to smoke up in them. It is entrances to shops, bus shelters, (not bus stops in the open hair) hospital and health center grounds and football grounds that you cannot smoke in. That is why you see people smoking outside cafes on the pavements. Not wrong just your usual pendantic reply and your obvious dislike of Canvey and everyone living there.
[quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hesmrknowitall[/bold] wrote: The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke. Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****[/p][/quote]Actually you can smoke in a public place, you cannot smoke in business premises or places of work.[/p][/quote]Wrong again..why do you think there are NO SMOKING signs at a bus stop? because there members of the public congregate by them, clear ....[/p][/quote]Parks and streets are all public places and you are allowed to smoke up in them. It is entrances to shops, bus shelters, (not bus stops in the open hair) hospital and health center grounds and football grounds that you cannot smoke in. That is why you see people smoking outside cafes on the pavements. Not wrong just your usual pendantic reply and your obvious dislike of Canvey and everyone living there. John T Pharro
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2:13pm Sat 5 Jan 13

John T Pharro says...

John T Pharro wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
hesmrknowitall wrote:
The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke.

Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****
Actually you can smoke in a public place, you cannot smoke in business premises or places of work.
Wrong again..why do you think there are NO SMOKING signs at a bus stop? because there members of the public congregate by them, clear ....
Parks and streets are all public places and you are allowed to smoke up in them. It is entrances to shops, bus shelters, (not bus stops in the open hair) hospital and health center grounds and football grounds that you cannot smoke in. That is why you see people smoking outside cafes on the pavements. Not wrong just your usual pendantic reply and your obvious dislike of Canvey and everyone living there.
Should have said open "AIR" of course not hair.
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hesmrknowitall[/bold] wrote: The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke. Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****[/p][/quote]Actually you can smoke in a public place, you cannot smoke in business premises or places of work.[/p][/quote]Wrong again..why do you think there are NO SMOKING signs at a bus stop? because there members of the public congregate by them, clear ....[/p][/quote]Parks and streets are all public places and you are allowed to smoke up in them. It is entrances to shops, bus shelters, (not bus stops in the open hair) hospital and health center grounds and football grounds that you cannot smoke in. That is why you see people smoking outside cafes on the pavements. Not wrong just your usual pendantic reply and your obvious dislike of Canvey and everyone living there.[/p][/quote]Should have said open "AIR" of course not hair. John T Pharro
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3:28pm Sat 5 Jan 13

andy:) says...

hesmrknowitall wrote:
The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke.

Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****
No it doesnt !. You cant smoke in workplaces, private or public.
[quote][p][bold]hesmrknowitall[/bold] wrote: The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke. Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****[/p][/quote]No it doesnt !. You cant smoke in workplaces, private or public. andy:)
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4:31pm Sat 5 Jan 13

Carnabackable says...

John T Pharro wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
hesmrknowitall wrote:
The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke.

Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****
Actually you can smoke in a public place, you cannot smoke in business premises or places of work.
Wrong again..why do you think there are NO SMOKING signs at a bus stop? because there members of the public congregate by them, clear ....
Parks and streets are all public places and you are allowed to smoke up in them. It is entrances to shops, bus shelters, (not bus stops in the open hair) hospital and health center grounds and football grounds that you cannot smoke in. That is why you see people smoking outside cafes on the pavements. Not wrong just your usual pendantic reply and your obvious dislike of Canvey and everyone living there.
Should have said open "AIR" of course not hair.
Another mistake, you make a lot don't you....
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hesmrknowitall[/bold] wrote: The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke. Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****[/p][/quote]Actually you can smoke in a public place, you cannot smoke in business premises or places of work.[/p][/quote]Wrong again..why do you think there are NO SMOKING signs at a bus stop? because there members of the public congregate by them, clear ....[/p][/quote]Parks and streets are all public places and you are allowed to smoke up in them. It is entrances to shops, bus shelters, (not bus stops in the open hair) hospital and health center grounds and football grounds that you cannot smoke in. That is why you see people smoking outside cafes on the pavements. Not wrong just your usual pendantic reply and your obvious dislike of Canvey and everyone living there.[/p][/quote]Should have said open "AIR" of course not hair.[/p][/quote]Another mistake, you make a lot don't you.... Carnabackable
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5:07pm Sat 5 Jan 13

John T Pharro says...

Carnabackable wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
hesmrknowitall wrote:
The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke.

Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****
Actually you can smoke in a public place, you cannot smoke in business premises or places of work.
Wrong again..why do you think there are NO SMOKING signs at a bus stop? because there members of the public congregate by them, clear ....
Parks and streets are all public places and you are allowed to smoke up in them. It is entrances to shops, bus shelters, (not bus stops in the open hair) hospital and health center grounds and football grounds that you cannot smoke in. That is why you see people smoking outside cafes on the pavements. Not wrong just your usual pendantic reply and your obvious dislike of Canvey and everyone living there.
Should have said open "AIR" of course not hair.
Another mistake, you make a lot don't you....
What a pathetic reply. You were proved wrong about not being able to smoke anywhere in public, but of course you are never wrong are you?
[quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hesmrknowitall[/bold] wrote: The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke. Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****[/p][/quote]Actually you can smoke in a public place, you cannot smoke in business premises or places of work.[/p][/quote]Wrong again..why do you think there are NO SMOKING signs at a bus stop? because there members of the public congregate by them, clear ....[/p][/quote]Parks and streets are all public places and you are allowed to smoke up in them. It is entrances to shops, bus shelters, (not bus stops in the open hair) hospital and health center grounds and football grounds that you cannot smoke in. That is why you see people smoking outside cafes on the pavements. Not wrong just your usual pendantic reply and your obvious dislike of Canvey and everyone living there.[/p][/quote]Should have said open "AIR" of course not hair.[/p][/quote]Another mistake, you make a lot don't you....[/p][/quote]What a pathetic reply. You were proved wrong about not being able to smoke anywhere in public, but of course you are never wrong are you? John T Pharro
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5:12pm Sat 5 Jan 13

Carnabackable says...

John T Pharro wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
hesmrknowitall wrote:
The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke.

Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****
Actually you can smoke in a public place, you cannot smoke in business premises or places of work.
Wrong again..why do you think there are NO SMOKING signs at a bus stop? because there members of the public congregate by them, clear ....
Parks and streets are all public places and you are allowed to smoke up in them. It is entrances to shops, bus shelters, (not bus stops in the open hair) hospital and health center grounds and football grounds that you cannot smoke in. That is why you see people smoking outside cafes on the pavements. Not wrong just your usual pendantic reply and your obvious dislike of Canvey and everyone living there.
Should have said open "AIR" of course not hair.
Another mistake, you make a lot don't you....
What a pathetic reply. You were proved wrong about not being able to smoke anywhere in public, but of course you are never wrong are you?
Im always wrong when I converse with a Canveyite, lets me know Ive taken a bad route.
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hesmrknowitall[/bold] wrote: The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke. Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****[/p][/quote]Actually you can smoke in a public place, you cannot smoke in business premises or places of work.[/p][/quote]Wrong again..why do you think there are NO SMOKING signs at a bus stop? because there members of the public congregate by them, clear ....[/p][/quote]Parks and streets are all public places and you are allowed to smoke up in them. It is entrances to shops, bus shelters, (not bus stops in the open hair) hospital and health center grounds and football grounds that you cannot smoke in. That is why you see people smoking outside cafes on the pavements. Not wrong just your usual pendantic reply and your obvious dislike of Canvey and everyone living there.[/p][/quote]Should have said open "AIR" of course not hair.[/p][/quote]Another mistake, you make a lot don't you....[/p][/quote]What a pathetic reply. You were proved wrong about not being able to smoke anywhere in public, but of course you are never wrong are you?[/p][/quote]Im always wrong when I converse with a Canveyite, lets me know Ive taken a bad route. Carnabackable
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6:22pm Sat 5 Jan 13

John T Pharro says...

Carnabackable wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
hesmrknowitall wrote:
The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke.

Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****
Actually you can smoke in a public place, you cannot smoke in business premises or places of work.
Wrong again..why do you think there are NO SMOKING signs at a bus stop? because there members of the public congregate by them, clear ....
Parks and streets are all public places and you are allowed to smoke up in them. It is entrances to shops, bus shelters, (not bus stops in the open hair) hospital and health center grounds and football grounds that you cannot smoke in. That is why you see people smoking outside cafes on the pavements. Not wrong just your usual pendantic reply and your obvious dislike of Canvey and everyone living there.
Should have said open "AIR" of course not hair.
Another mistake, you make a lot don't you....
What a pathetic reply. You were proved wrong about not being able to smoke anywhere in public, but of course you are never wrong are you?
Im always wrong when I converse with a Canveyite, lets me know Ive taken a bad route.
Usually every time you post and having seen the comments you make about other people's posts on other matters it shows just what you are like. Just like your grammar in your last post here, wrong more than once.
[quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hesmrknowitall[/bold] wrote: The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke. Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****[/p][/quote]Actually you can smoke in a public place, you cannot smoke in business premises or places of work.[/p][/quote]Wrong again..why do you think there are NO SMOKING signs at a bus stop? because there members of the public congregate by them, clear ....[/p][/quote]Parks and streets are all public places and you are allowed to smoke up in them. It is entrances to shops, bus shelters, (not bus stops in the open hair) hospital and health center grounds and football grounds that you cannot smoke in. That is why you see people smoking outside cafes on the pavements. Not wrong just your usual pendantic reply and your obvious dislike of Canvey and everyone living there.[/p][/quote]Should have said open "AIR" of course not hair.[/p][/quote]Another mistake, you make a lot don't you....[/p][/quote]What a pathetic reply. You were proved wrong about not being able to smoke anywhere in public, but of course you are never wrong are you?[/p][/quote]Im always wrong when I converse with a Canveyite, lets me know Ive taken a bad route.[/p][/quote]Usually every time you post and having seen the comments you make about other people's posts on other matters it shows just what you are like. Just like your grammar in your last post here, wrong more than once. John T Pharro
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7:40pm Sat 5 Jan 13

Carnabackable says...

John T Pharro wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
hesmrknowitall wrote:
The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke.

Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****
Actually you can smoke in a public place, you cannot smoke in business premises or places of work.
Wrong again..why do you think there are NO SMOKING signs at a bus stop? because there members of the public congregate by them, clear ....
Parks and streets are all public places and you are allowed to smoke up in them. It is entrances to shops, bus shelters, (not bus stops in the open hair) hospital and health center grounds and football grounds that you cannot smoke in. That is why you see people smoking outside cafes on the pavements. Not wrong just your usual pendantic reply and your obvious dislike of Canvey and everyone living there.
Should have said open "AIR" of course not hair.
Another mistake, you make a lot don't you....
What a pathetic reply. You were proved wrong about not being able to smoke anywhere in public, but of course you are never wrong are you?
Im always wrong when I converse with a Canveyite, lets me know Ive taken a bad route.
Usually every time you post and having seen the comments you make about other people's posts on other matters it shows just what you are like. Just like your grammar in your last post here, wrong more than once.
Try using a comma after 6 words, or so.
Shows your intellect off.
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hesmrknowitall[/bold] wrote: The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke. Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****[/p][/quote]Actually you can smoke in a public place, you cannot smoke in business premises or places of work.[/p][/quote]Wrong again..why do you think there are NO SMOKING signs at a bus stop? because there members of the public congregate by them, clear ....[/p][/quote]Parks and streets are all public places and you are allowed to smoke up in them. It is entrances to shops, bus shelters, (not bus stops in the open hair) hospital and health center grounds and football grounds that you cannot smoke in. That is why you see people smoking outside cafes on the pavements. Not wrong just your usual pendantic reply and your obvious dislike of Canvey and everyone living there.[/p][/quote]Should have said open "AIR" of course not hair.[/p][/quote]Another mistake, you make a lot don't you....[/p][/quote]What a pathetic reply. You were proved wrong about not being able to smoke anywhere in public, but of course you are never wrong are you?[/p][/quote]Im always wrong when I converse with a Canveyite, lets me know Ive taken a bad route.[/p][/quote]Usually every time you post and having seen the comments you make about other people's posts on other matters it shows just what you are like. Just like your grammar in your last post here, wrong more than once.[/p][/quote]Try using a comma after 6 words, or so. Shows your intellect off. Carnabackable
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8:49pm Sat 5 Jan 13

John T Pharro says...

Carnabackable wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
hesmrknowitall wrote:
The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke.

Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****
Actually you can smoke in a public place, you cannot smoke in business premises or places of work.
Wrong again..why do you think there are NO SMOKING signs at a bus stop? because there members of the public congregate by them, clear ....
Parks and streets are all public places and you are allowed to smoke up in them. It is entrances to shops, bus shelters, (not bus stops in the open hair) hospital and health center grounds and football grounds that you cannot smoke in. That is why you see people smoking outside cafes on the pavements. Not wrong just your usual pendantic reply and your obvious dislike of Canvey and everyone living there.
Should have said open "AIR" of course not hair.
Another mistake, you make a lot don't you....
What a pathetic reply. You were proved wrong about not being able to smoke anywhere in public, but of course you are never wrong are you?
Im always wrong when I converse with a Canveyite, lets me know Ive taken a bad route.
Usually every time you post and having seen the comments you make about other people's posts on other matters it shows just what you are like. Just like your grammar in your last post here, wrong more than once.
Try using a comma after 6 words, or so.
Shows your intellect off.
That's grammatically incorrect as well.
[quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hesmrknowitall[/bold] wrote: The law says you can't smoke in a public place, surely this would be considered a private place where people go TO smoke. Yes to the letter of the law it is illegal, but as they say, sometimes the law is an ****[/p][/quote]Actually you can smoke in a public place, you cannot smoke in business premises or places of work.[/p][/quote]Wrong again..why do you think there are NO SMOKING signs at a bus stop? because there members of the public congregate by them, clear ....[/p][/quote]Parks and streets are all public places and you are allowed to smoke up in them. It is entrances to shops, bus shelters, (not bus stops in the open hair) hospital and health center grounds and football grounds that you cannot smoke in. That is why you see people smoking outside cafes on the pavements. Not wrong just your usual pendantic reply and your obvious dislike of Canvey and everyone living there.[/p][/quote]Should have said open "AIR" of course not hair.[/p][/quote]Another mistake, you make a lot don't you....[/p][/quote]What a pathetic reply. You were proved wrong about not being able to smoke anywhere in public, but of course you are never wrong are you?[/p][/quote]Im always wrong when I converse with a Canveyite, lets me know Ive taken a bad route.[/p][/quote]Usually every time you post and having seen the comments you make about other people's posts on other matters it shows just what you are like. Just like your grammar in your last post here, wrong more than once.[/p][/quote]Try using a comma after 6 words, or so. Shows your intellect off.[/p][/quote]That's grammatically incorrect as well. John T Pharro
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6:56am Mon 7 Jan 13

Brunning999 says...

Grow up people please it is when you read stupid argumentative points of view like those above it makes you understand either why non UK citizens find us and our laws complicated or why some take advantage of us.

It is an easy argument the law is the law end of pi55 off if you don't like it!
Grow up people please it is when you read stupid argumentative points of view like those above it makes you understand either why non UK citizens find us and our laws complicated or why some take advantage of us. It is an easy argument the law is the law end of pi55 off if you don't like it! Brunning999
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7:11am Mon 7 Jan 13

Brunning999 says...

What amazes me is why anyone would want to take smoke into their body from which is basically a Bonfire?
What amazes me is why anyone would want to take smoke into their body from which is basically a Bonfire? Brunning999
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11:06am Mon 7 Jan 13

Eric Whim says...

Brunning999 wrote:
What amazes me is why anyone would want to take smoke into their body from which is basically a Bonfire?
because it's trendy at the moment, probably
[quote][p][bold]Brunning999[/bold] wrote: What amazes me is why anyone would want to take smoke into their body from which is basically a Bonfire?[/p][/quote]because it's trendy at the moment, probably Eric Whim
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11:14pm Mon 7 Jan 13

bumper is a .... says...

carnabackable. I'm thinking of changing my user name. any idea what it might be?
carnabackable. I'm thinking of changing my user name. any idea what it might be? bumper is a ....
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11:29pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Carnabackable says...

bumper is a .... wrote:
carnabackable. I'm thinking of changing my user name. any idea what it might be?
bumper intellect no ?
[quote][p][bold]bumper is a ....[/bold] wrote: carnabackable. I'm thinking of changing my user name. any idea what it might be?[/p][/quote]bumper intellect no ? Carnabackable
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9:09am Tue 8 Jan 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

The race card is now being played by the owners....when backed in a corner it always comes in to play.
The race card is now being played by the owners....when backed in a corner it always comes in to play. DogsMessInLeigh
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5:10pm Tue 8 Jan 13

yellowfairy says...

When they re bragging to echo reporters that they stay open till 1pm and they know they should be shutting at 11pm, then saying they ask for identity when they clearly don't with dodgy heaters pinned to a curtain come on you kinda guess they are up to no good, they think they are above the law and being clever well they aren't. They re a couple of wide boys trying it on, so come on the council do the right thing and shut them down. And as for the racist card your in our country stick to the law.
When they re bragging to echo reporters that they stay open till 1pm and they know they should be shutting at 11pm, then saying they ask for identity when they clearly don't with dodgy heaters pinned to a curtain come on you kinda guess they are up to no good, they think they are above the law and being clever well they aren't. They re a couple of wide boys trying it on, so come on the council do the right thing and shut them down. And as for the racist card your in our country stick to the law. yellowfairy
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5:13pm Tue 8 Jan 13

yellowfairy says...

When they re bragging to echo reporters that they stay open till 1am and they know they should be shutting at 11pm, then saying they ask for identity when they clearly don't with dodgy heaters pinned to a curtain come on you kinda guess they are up to no good, they think they are above the law and being clever well they aren't. They re a couple of wide boys trying it on, so come on the council do the right thing and shut them down. And as for the racist card your in our country stick to the law.
When they re bragging to echo reporters that they stay open till 1am and they know they should be shutting at 11pm, then saying they ask for identity when they clearly don't with dodgy heaters pinned to a curtain come on you kinda guess they are up to no good, they think they are above the law and being clever well they aren't. They re a couple of wide boys trying it on, so come on the council do the right thing and shut them down. And as for the racist card your in our country stick to the law. yellowfairy
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6:23pm Wed 9 Jan 13

InTheKnowOk says...

Happy days :-)
Happy days :-) InTheKnowOk
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9:23pm Wed 9 Jan 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Sunday Monday Happy Days..Tuesday Wednesday ..Happy Days..Thursday Friday happy days...Saturday what a day.....
Sunday Monday Happy Days..Tuesday Wednesday ..Happy Days..Thursday Friday happy days...Saturday what a day..... DogsMessInLeigh
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