Councillors approve outline plans to build homes on Thorney Bay Caravan Park

CONTROVERSIAL plans to build a number of homes at Canvey's Thorney Bay Caravan Park have been backed by councillors for a second time.

Castle Point Council's development control committee approved an outline application submitted by millionaire businessman Jeff King.

However, in the latest application it is not specified how many homes will be built.

In the vote, eight councillors voted in favour of the application while four were against.

Comments(29)

Carnabackable says...
2:21pm Wed 6 Feb 13

That's Grand news, get rid of those caravan dwellers, a real step forward..

upset says...
2:32pm Wed 6 Feb 13

Carnabackable wrote:
That's Grand news, get rid of those caravan dwellers, a real step forward..
HERE HERE but wait for the moaners!!!

marshman says...
5:17pm Wed 6 Feb 13

It really is great to see a local council attempting to put government policy into action.

What next?

Homosexual Marriages at Kiln Road?

Oh, nearly forgot;

"MOAN MOAN MOAN"

upset says...
5:32pm Wed 6 Feb 13

marshman wrote:
It really is great to see a local council attempting to put government policy into action.

What next?

Homosexual Marriages at Kiln Road?

Oh, nearly forgot;

"MOAN MOAN MOAN"
Nice to see the cap fits.

marshman says...
5:43pm Wed 6 Feb 13

upset wrote:
marshman wrote: It really is great to see a local council attempting to put government policy into action. What next? Homosexual Marriages at Kiln Road? Oh, nearly forgot; "MOAN MOAN MOAN"
Nice to see the cap fits.
Said that to my first wife once ;o)

John T Pharro says...
6:50pm Wed 6 Feb 13

upset wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
That's Grand news, get rid of those caravan dwellers, a real step forward..
HERE HERE but wait for the moaners!!!
Does this get rid of the all the caravans?
Not a moan, just answer the question.
Just for the record do you know why this uncontrolled development of unlimited caravans on what was a holiday camp was allowed to happen?
Before I tell you, you tell me.

upset says...
6:56pm Wed 6 Feb 13

John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
That's Grand news, get rid of those caravan dwellers, a real step forward..
HERE HERE but wait for the moaners!!!
Does this get rid of the all the caravans?
Not a moan, just answer the question.
Just for the record do you know why this uncontrolled development of unlimited caravans on what was a holiday camp was allowed to happen?
Before I tell you, you tell me.
Oh do tell

John T Pharro says...
7:05pm Wed 6 Feb 13

Why, you say you know everything so you go first or admit you have no idea at all have you.

John T Pharro says...
7:17pm Wed 6 Feb 13

upset wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
That's Grand news, get rid of those caravan dwellers, a real step forward..
HERE HERE but wait for the moaners!!!
Does this get rid of the all the caravans?
Not a moan, just answer the question.
Just for the record do you know why this uncontrolled development of unlimited caravans on what was a holiday camp was allowed to happen?
Before I tell you, you tell me.
Oh do tell
Come on 'upset" see my above post. Answer.

upset says...
7:37pm Wed 6 Feb 13

marshman wrote:
upset wrote:
marshman wrote: It really is great to see a local council attempting to put government policy into action. What next? Homosexual Marriages at Kiln Road? Oh, nearly forgot; "MOAN MOAN MOAN"
Nice to see the cap fits.
Said that to my first wife once ;o)
Nice reply

upset says...
7:39pm Wed 6 Feb 13

John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
That's Grand news, get rid of those caravan dwellers, a real step forward..
HERE HERE but wait for the moaners!!!
Does this get rid of the all the caravans?
Not a moan, just answer the question.
Just for the record do you know why this uncontrolled development of unlimited caravans on what was a holiday camp was allowed to happen?
Before I tell you, you tell me.
Oh do tell
Come on 'upset" see my above post. Answer.
No it's you and the nice person from Rochford that know all the answers, so you think.

John T Pharro says...
8:01pm Wed 6 Feb 13

upset wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
That's Grand news, get rid of those caravan dwellers, a real step forward..
HERE HERE but wait for the moaners!!!
Does this get rid of the all the caravans?
Not a moan, just answer the question.
Just for the record do you know why this uncontrolled development of unlimited caravans on what was a holiday camp was allowed to happen?
Before I tell you, you tell me.
Oh do tell
Come on 'upset" see my above post. Answer.
No it's you and the nice person from Rochford that know all the answers, so you think.
Your floundering you have absolutely no idea at all have you? You seem to always have an opinion, based around slagging off the CIIP, but with no factual back up at all. So why not admit it?
Of course, had you taken an active interest and attended Neighbourhood Meetings, you would know, but you don't do you?
So, you have two choices, admit you have no idea and/or attend the next Neighbourhood Meeting where I will you the proof and you never know you may even find out something else Castle Point are not doing, but claim they are.
So which is it?
You see not moans, but concrete facts and questions.

John T Pharro says...
8:02pm Wed 6 Feb 13

John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
That's Grand news, get rid of those caravan dwellers, a real step forward..
HERE HERE but wait for the moaners!!!
Does this get rid of the all the caravans?
Not a moan, just answer the question.
Just for the record do you know why this uncontrolled development of unlimited caravans on what was a holiday camp was allowed to happen?
Before I tell you, you tell me.
Oh do tell
Come on 'upset" see my above post. Answer.
No it's you and the nice person from Rochford that know all the answers, so you think.
Your floundering you have absolutely no idea at all have you? You seem to always have an opinion, based around slagging off the CIIP, but with no factual back up at all. So why not admit it?
Of course, had you taken an active interest and attended Neighbourhood Meetings, you would know, but you don't do you?
So, you have two choices, admit you have no idea and/or attend the next Neighbourhood Meeting where I will you the proof and you never know you may even find out something else Castle Point are not doing, but claim they are.
So which is it?
You see not moans, but concrete facts and questions.
Should have said "show" you the proof.

HOT AIR says...
10:13pm Wed 6 Feb 13

You really are a self important, pompous pr&t John Pharro, a know nothing bore.

upset says...
8:43am Thu 7 Feb 13

HOT AIR wrote:
You really are a self important, pompous pr&t John Pharro, a know nothing bore.
Very well said, glad it's not just me thinks this way.

John T Pharro says...
9:04am Thu 7 Feb 13

upset wrote:
HOT AIR wrote:
You really are a self important, pompous pr&t John Pharro, a know nothing bore.
Very well said, glad it's not just me thinks this way.
So see you at the next Neighbourhood Meeting then to show you the facts.

upset says...
10:49am Thu 7 Feb 13

John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
HOT AIR wrote:
You really are a self important, pompous pr&t John Pharro, a know nothing bore.
Very well said, glad it's not just me thinks this way.
So see you at the next Neighbourhood Meeting then to show you the facts.
Come on John share your info with us al,l as it is not just me who needs educating as you would see it.

You are always asking me yes or no questions so why have you not answered mine.
Is a vote for CIIP a wasted vote if you want to change the overall control of CPBC unless they start a mainland branch or link up with there old friends in the Labour party?

John T Pharro says...
4:34pm Thu 7 Feb 13

upset wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
HOT AIR wrote:
You really are a self important, pompous pr&t John Pharro, a know nothing bore.
Very well said, glad it's not just me thinks this way.
So see you at the next Neighbourhood Meeting then to show you the facts.
Come on John share your info with us al,l as it is not just me who needs educating as you would see it.

You are always asking me yes or no questions so why have you not answered mine.
Is a vote for CIIP a wasted vote if you want to change the overall control of CPBC unless they start a mainland branch or link up with there old friends in the Labour party?
Told you see you at the Neighbourhood Meeting after all you think I am "a self important pompous pr-tt and a know nothing bore" you will be able to tell to my face then or maybe find out I am not. Bet you don't turn up.

iknowbetter says...
4:37pm Thu 7 Feb 13

John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
That's Grand news, get rid of those caravan dwellers, a real step forward..
HERE HERE but wait for the moaners!!!
Does this get rid of the all the caravans?
Not a moan, just answer the question.
Just for the record do you know why this uncontrolled development of unlimited caravans on what was a holiday camp was allowed to happen?
Before I tell you, you tell me.
Oh do tell
Come on 'upset" see my above post. Answer.
No it's you and the nice person from Rochford that know all the answers, so you think.
Your floundering you have absolutely no idea at all have you? You seem to always have an opinion, based around slagging off the CIIP, but with no factual back up at all. So why not admit it?
Of course, had you taken an active interest and attended Neighbourhood Meetings, you would know, but you don't do you?
So, you have two choices, admit you have no idea and/or attend the next Neighbourhood Meeting where I will you the proof and you never know you may even find out something else Castle Point are not doing, but claim they are.
So which is it?
You see not moans, but concrete facts and questions.
Your dealing with an armchair warrior, what do you expect?

upset says...
5:34pm Thu 7 Feb 13

John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
HOT AIR wrote:
You really are a self important, pompous pr&t John Pharro, a know nothing bore.
Very well said, glad it's not just me thinks this way.
So see you at the next Neighbourhood Meeting then to show you the facts.
Come on John share your info with us al,l as it is not just me who needs educating as you would see it.

You are always asking me yes or no questions so why have you not answered mine.
Is a vote for CIIP a wasted vote if you want to change the overall control of CPBC unless they start a mainland branch or link up with there old friends in the Labour party?
Told you see you at the Neighbourhood Meeting after all you think I am "a self important pompous pr-tt and a know nothing bore" you will be able to tell to my face then or maybe find out I am not. Bet you don't turn up.
I have never called you any of those names, in fact I never called you any names. I may have implied that your support for the CIIP is doubt full in it's correctness and your continued slating of the Tory's is less than fair, but please don't make inflammatory submissions about name calling you are very much mistaken.
Still no answer about the voting though John.

John T Pharro says...
8:13pm Thu 7 Feb 13

upset wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
HOT AIR wrote:
You really are a self important, pompous pr&t John Pharro, a know nothing bore.
Very well said, glad it's not just me thinks this way.
So see you at the next Neighbourhood Meeting then to show you the facts.
Come on John share your info with us al,l as it is not just me who needs educating as you would see it.

You are always asking me yes or no questions so why have you not answered mine.
Is a vote for CIIP a wasted vote if you want to change the overall control of CPBC unless they start a mainland branch or link up with there old friends in the Labour party?
Told you see you at the Neighbourhood Meeting after all you think I am "a self important pompous pr-tt and a know nothing bore" you will be able to tell to my face then or maybe find out I am not. Bet you don't turn up.
I have never called you any of those names, in fact I never called you any names. I may have implied that your support for the CIIP is doubt full in it's correctness and your continued slating of the Tory's is less than fair, but please don't make inflammatory submissions about name calling you are very much mistaken.
Still no answer about the voting though John.
Excuse me you agreed with Hot Air so it amounts to the same thing.

upset says...
8:48am Fri 8 Feb 13

John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
HOT AIR wrote:
You really are a self important, pompous pr&t John Pharro, a know nothing bore.
Very well said, glad it's not just me thinks this way.
So see you at the next Neighbourhood Meeting then to show you the facts.
Come on John share your info with us al,l as it is not just me who needs educating as you would see it.

You are always asking me yes or no questions so why have you not answered mine.
Is a vote for CIIP a wasted vote if you want to change the overall control of CPBC unless they start a mainland branch or link up with there old friends in the Labour party?
Told you see you at the Neighbourhood Meeting after all you think I am "a self important pompous pr-tt and a know nothing bore" you will be able to tell to my face then or maybe find out I am not. Bet you don't turn up.
I have never called you any of those names, in fact I never called you any names. I may have implied that your support for the CIIP is doubt full in it's correctness and your continued slating of the Tory's is less than fair, but please don't make inflammatory submissions about name calling you are very much mistaken.
Still no answer about the voting though John.
Excuse me you agreed with Hot Air so it amounts to the same thing.
Come on John tell us all about the vote!!!!

upset says...
8:51am Fri 8 Feb 13

I have it on good authority that the Tory's are please that the INDIES are on Canvey because they have split the opposition vote and they only have to now satisfy mainland voters to stay in power.
What do you think John?

John T Pharro says...
9:04am Fri 8 Feb 13

upset wrote:
I have it on good authority that the Tory's are please that the INDIES are on Canvey because they have split the opposition vote and they only have to now satisfy mainland voters to stay in power.
What do you think John?
I won't bother to in future to respond to anyone who thinks I am "self important pompous pr-tt" then denies it. Clearly whatever I say they (you) will ignore it anyway.
You however, can still come to the next Neighbourhood Meeting where I will show you the proof of what I first posted about, which you still have not replied to.

upset says...
9:42am Fri 8 Feb 13

John T Pharro wrote:
upset wrote:
I have it on good authority that the Tory's are please that the INDIES are on Canvey because they have split the opposition vote and they only have to now satisfy mainland voters to stay in power.
What do you think John?
I won't bother to in future to respond to anyone who thinks I am "self important pompous pr-tt" then denies it. Clearly whatever I say they (you) will ignore it anyway.
You however, can still come to the next Neighbourhood Meeting where I will show you the proof of what I first posted about, which you still have not replied to.
John do you not understand that everyone on here will now believe you have either something to hide and or you have no answer to my various voting questions.
I have no wish to meet you, but unbeknown to both of us we have probably been in the same Neighbourhood meeting. The Echo makes these pages available for people to exchange views and opinions, So answer the questions and put your evidence up for us all to see.

Whatthe* says...
7:13pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Q / What's going on in Castle Point ?
A / Castle Point as have other Boroughs have to set a new homes target that have to stand scrutiny of a Government Inspector, a figure could be as high as 280 per year but is suggested that 200 maybe defendable..

Q/ Why are mainland Cllrs voting for new homes in Castle Point ?
A/ because failure to prepare a local plan or provide adequate housing numbers will result in Castle Point loosing it Development Control, so what you may say , but developers who are waiting to develop our Green Belt sites would then submit applications direct to an Inspector plans that have not been negotiated just submitted , ALL Green Belt will be at risk.

Q/ Why aren't CIIP Cllrs voting for new homes in Castle Point?
A/ Ask them , and ask what alternatives are there?

Q / What could happen if the new local plan is not in place ?
A/ Could result in Castle Point loosing it Development Control, with developers waiting to submit applications direct to an Inspector plans that have not been negotiated just submitted , ALL Green Belt will be at risk.

John T Pharro says...
7:24pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Whatthe* wrote:
Q / What's going on in Castle Point ?
A / Castle Point as have other Boroughs have to set a new homes target that have to stand scrutiny of a Government Inspector, a figure could be as high as 280 per year but is suggested that 200 maybe defendable..

Q/ Why are mainland Cllrs voting for new homes in Castle Point ?
A/ because failure to prepare a local plan or provide adequate housing numbers will result in Castle Point loosing it Development Control, so what you may say , but developers who are waiting to develop our Green Belt sites would then submit applications direct to an Inspector plans that have not been negotiated just submitted , ALL Green Belt will be at risk.

Q/ Why aren't CIIP Cllrs voting for new homes in Castle Point?
A/ Ask them , and ask what alternatives are there?

Q / What could happen if the new local plan is not in place ?
A/ Could result in Castle Point loosing it Development Control, with developers waiting to submit applications direct to an Inspector plans that have not been negotiated just submitted , ALL Green Belt will be at risk.
Point 3. Just a question, what do you think the alternatives are, or where do you think the housing should be built?

Whatthe* says...
9:35pm Fri 8 Feb 13

John T Pharro wrote:
Whatthe* wrote:
Q / What's going on in Castle Point ?
A / Castle Point as have other Boroughs have to set a new homes target that have to stand scrutiny of a Government Inspector, a figure could be as high as 280 per year but is suggested that 200 maybe defendable..

Q/ Why are mainland Cllrs voting for new homes in Castle Point ?
A/ because failure to prepare a local plan or provide adequate housing numbers will result in Castle Point loosing it Development Control, so what you may say , but developers who are waiting to develop our Green Belt sites would then submit applications direct to an Inspector plans that have not been negotiated just submitted , ALL Green Belt will be at risk.

Q/ Why aren't CIIP Cllrs voting for new homes in Castle Point?
A/ Ask them , and ask what alternatives are there?

Q / What could happen if the new local plan is not in place ?
A/ Could result in Castle Point loosing it Development Control, with developers waiting to submit applications direct to an Inspector plans that have not been negotiated just submitted , ALL Green Belt will be at risk.
Point 3. Just a question, what do you think the alternatives are, or where do you think the housing should be built?
John
I don't know have to wait and see what comes up , but a blanket No is a No No, but I guess that would stop any awkward decissions having to be made and the blame would be aimed at the inspector .
These targets are from the previous Government and not rescinded by the current Government we are left with forced housing targets that probably won't sell but the land will still be allocated.

field3 says...
1:23am Mon 25 Feb 13

"the caravan dwellers" are people with families and have no choice

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