Labour: We’ll try to rebuild support (From Echo)

Will the gardener and his failed councillor friends regroup under the red flag?

You have now confirmed it to me upset, you are a LOONEY TUNE!! Its irrelivant what the artical is about in your eyes you always manage to turn it around and take a dig at the Dave and his party. You do really need to get a life all that bitter and twistedness is turning you into a crank!!

Whatever happens in local politics, it's what is happening nationally that matters when it comes to elections.
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The One (main) reason that Labour lost the election, was having Gordon Brown as leader.
If he had been replaced before the election Labour would have walked it.
He just came over as a rather nasty and insincere person.

WE have just had 13 years of incredible financial, educational and social incompetence from Labour, and to listen to "Red Ed Milliband" trying to re-write history and pretend everything was rosy is deeply patronising and insulting.
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As for Joe Cooke has he forgotten how his party and the CIIP leader Dave Blackwell who, was then, the Labour deputy leader ruined this councils finances?
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Or is he, like Milliband, going to re-write history and pretend Labours incompetence didn't exist?
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He may think we have forgotten.....

We haven't.

I think APR is about right here. There is very little difference between the main parties now. The principles upon- which each was founded have been watered-down to such a degree that the main aim seems to be to court as many votes as possible to gain power. Thereafter it is a case of throwing the manifesto out of the window and doing the very least necessary to hang on to it.

In Castle Point for many, many years with Sir Bernard Braine we had one of the most respected MPs ever, who went on to become the Father of the House. He would take-on local and national topics and earned that respect through sheer hard work and approachability. He was a Tory.
I have personally had excellent service from both Chistine Butler (Labour) and Bob Spink (Tory/Ukip/Independe
nt). I have had mediocre response from our current MP (Tory).
For an MP the most essential quality of all is a sense of commitment and dedication to both those electing him/her and the wider National community, coupled with the courage and tenacity to stand against the whips if necessary out of established principle.
The younger generation are losing faith in politicians and politics generally as they see power and strength and the pursuit of wealth dictate their lives. It's all fast becoming a free-for-all and survival of the fittest.
The right to vote is an absolute right and we need careful thought about who we propose and vote into power. I tend to favour the candidate rather than the Party.

thelonewhinger wrote:
I think APR is about right here. There is very little difference between the main parties now. The principles upon- which each was founded have been watered-down to such a degree that the main aim seems to be to court as many votes as possible to gain power. Thereafter it is a case of throwing the manifesto out of the window and doing the very least necessary to hang on to it.

In Castle Point for many, many years with Sir Bernard Braine we had one of the most respected MPs ever, who went on to become the Father of the House. He would take-on local and national topics and earned that respect through sheer hard work and approachability. He was a Tory.
I have personally had excellent service from both Chistine Butler (Labour) and Bob Spink (Tory/Ukip/Independe

nt). I have had mediocre response from our current MP (Tory).
For an MP the most essential quality of all is a sense of commitment and dedication to both those electing him/her and the wider National community, coupled with the courage and tenacity to stand against the whips if necessary out of established principle.
The younger generation are losing faith in politicians and politics generally as they see power and strength and the pursuit of wealth dictate their lives. It's all fast becoming a free-for-all and survival of the fittest.
The right to vote is an absolute right and we need careful thought about who we propose and vote into power. I tend to favour the candidate rather than the Party.

Most people contact their MP probably once or sometimes twice in their lifetimes. Yet you have had "excellent" service from all our MPs except the current one.

Can't you sort out your own problems or do you have to go running to every Tom Dick or Harry for help?

GreatDixter wrote:

thelonewhinger wrote:
I think APR is about right here. There is very little difference between the main parties now. The principles upon- which each was founded have been watered-down to such a degree that the main aim seems to be to court as many votes as possible to gain power. Thereafter it is a case of throwing the manifesto out of the window and doing the very least necessary to hang on to it.

In Castle Point for many, many years with Sir Bernard Braine we had one of the most respected MPs ever, who went on to become the Father of the House. He would take-on local and national topics and earned that respect through sheer hard work and approachability. He was a Tory.
I have personally had excellent service from both Chistine Butler (Labour) and Bob Spink (Tory/Ukip/Independe


nt). I have had mediocre response from our current MP (Tory).
For an MP the most essential quality of all is a sense of commitment and dedication to both those electing him/her and the wider National community, coupled with the courage and tenacity to stand against the whips if necessary out of established principle.
The younger generation are losing faith in politicians and politics generally as they see power and strength and the pursuit of wealth dictate their lives. It's all fast becoming a free-for-all and survival of the fittest.
The right to vote is an absolute right and we need careful thought about who we propose and vote into power. I tend to favour the candidate rather than the Party.

Most people contact their MP probably once or sometimes twice in their lifetimes. Yet you have had "excellent" service from all our MPs except the current one.

Can't you sort out your own problems or do you have to go running to every Tom Dick or Harry for help?

Great Dixter
I think that you are being harsh. The whole idea of an MP is that they work for us and should represent OUR views. If you do not speak to them they will never know what your opinion is or the mood of their constituency is on a particular subject. This is only possible if people go and see them they do not have to have probelms

I thank Hadleigh Boy for rising to my defence and I will offer my own response to "Great Dickhead".....

The point of having an MP is not necessarily to sort out personal problems but rather problems which you or some other person or persons are having difficulty with in relation to local or national issues.
I have found that government departments and bureaucrats in general treat ordinary individuals with contempt. Yet once an MP intervenes the cogs grind far quicker and results often happen.
I am glad that "Great Dickhead" has had no cause to contact an MP but suspect that he is typical of a growing number of those who consider the plight of others not their problem... I for one do not want a "free-for-all" society.

"I think that you are being harsh"

I'm always suspicious of people who make unsubstantiated claims, or invoke generalisations about themselves in order to make a point. Especially when they are anonymous

MrSmithers wrote:
You have now confirmed it to me upset, you are a LOONEY TUNE!! Its irrelivant what the artical is about in your eyes you always manage to turn it around and take a dig at the Dave and his party. You do really need to get a life all that bitter and twistedness is turning you into a crank!!

What is cranky about asking if ex senior Labour leader and his friends are going to back to support Labour?
It's you that has a problem with anyone who makes any adveres comment or question about CIIP and it's members, is it because you are one?

Getting back to the point of the article.

The population of this country never ceases to amaze me. We went through the past 10+ years with a Defunct Labour Government, incapable of actually doing anything correctly to assist the population, yet there are still people out there who can find good words to say about the Labour Party. We were let down badly by Blair who was only out for himself and as for Brown, I really cannot find the right words to describe this man.
It really beggers belief after what the Labour party did to this country over the past 10+ years that there are still people out there prepared to vote for them.
I am not going to list any of the Labour Partys mistakes as I suspect by the time I have done that this page will have timed out and I doubt whether or not there is sufficient space on this page to list everything.

The gullability and naivity of the voting public never ceases to amaze me.
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After the spin doctors have airbrushed out the fiasco that was Blair and Brown: Afghanistan, Iraq, NHS in tatters, Education the worst in Europe, Economy on the floor, Biggest debt EVER, the Labour Party will be put forwards as the peoples party.
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If you believe that, you will vote for a monkey on a stick.

Mary Lou wrote:
The gullability and naivity of the voting public never ceases to amaze me. . After the spin doctors have airbrushed out the fiasco that was Blair and Brown: Afghanistan, Iraq, NHS in tatters, Education the worst in Europe, Economy on the floor, Biggest debt EVER, the Labour Party will be put forwards as the peoples party. . If you believe that, you will vote for a monkey on a stick.

Well said Mary Lou, that really describes the situation as it is.

There are people out there who unfortunately will vote for the monkey on a stick that calls itself the Labour Party, unbelievable as that sounds.

upset wrote:

MrSmithers wrote:
You have now confirmed it to me upset, you are a LOONEY TUNE!! Its irrelivant what the artical is about in your eyes you always manage to turn it around and take a dig at the Dave and his party. You do really need to get a life all that bitter and twistedness is turning you into a crank!!

What is cranky about asking if ex senior Labour leader and his friends are going to back to support Labour?
It's you that has a problem with anyone who makes any adveres comment or question about CIIP and it's members, is it because you are one?

Asking a question about a particular person on an open forum is not exactly the way to get an answer from said person, maybe you would get a better response to your question if you were actually brave enough to contact Dave in person and ask him directly, instead of hiding behind a keyboard!! he dosnt bite as far as im aware!! you can then share your answer with us on here.

So its me who has the problem!! well Upset sorry to disapoint you and make worse your already pathetic little life but I'm not a member of the CIIP!
Oh I can say I did vote for them, it seemed the better option when you see what was on offer at the time.
Me I'm happy to give people a chance, especially after giving my vote, Rome wasnt built in a day, the Cons and Labour have had years to try it and have always managed to make a right **** up of it so my opinion at the time of casting my vote was to let someone else have a go.