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Use your powers to make old jetty at Holehaven Creek safe

Town council chairman Joan Liddiard Town council chairman Joan Liddiard

CALLS have been made for the council to use emergency powers to fence off a derelict jetty, which residents say is dangerous.

The jetty, in Holehaven Creek, Canvey, is almost as long as Southend Pier.

Fences which used to stop people climbing on the structure have been torn down.

Coastguards have repeatedly warned over the past year about groups of youths climbing on to the jetty, and there are concerns they could be seriously injured jumping or falling off.

Castle Point Council claimed two weeks ago it had no authority to replace the fencing, as the jetty is on private land.

The Echo has since checked the law and learned councils do have powers to make hazardous private property safe.

We pointed this out to council officers, who have now admitted it does have powers, but is simply not prepared to use them.

Instead, it says it is trying to convince the the jetty’s owner to make it safe, but has repeatedly refused to name the company responsible.

Joan Liddiard, chairman of Canvey Town Council, urged the council to take direct action.

She said: “The borough council has to do something, because it is dangerous.

If the company which owns it isn’t going to help, the local authority needs to either make it safe, or arrange for it to be taken down in the public interest.”

She says problems with young people climbing on the jetty are likely to increase in the coming months because the Roscommon Way extension road, which was opened before Christmas, allows vehicles get closer to the jetty than was possible before.

The structure was built in the Seventies by the oil company, Occidental, for a planned fuel storage terminal which was never developed.

It has stood derelict ever since.

The borough council has powers under the 1984 Building Act and the 1990 Environmental Protection Act to make the jetty safe.

Council chief executive David Marchant said: “Following informal discussions with local councillors, the council is taking a measured approach to deal with concerns about unauthorised access to the land and jetty.

“The council is approaching the landowners concerned to encourage them to take action to prevent unauthorised access to the jetty.”

Comments(34)

streetboy75 says...
6:10pm Wed 1 Feb 12

set fire to it its only wood, lol thats one way to not worry about it anymore

streetboy75 says...
6:10pm Wed 1 Feb 12

set fire to it its only wood, lol thats one way to not worry about it anymore

bigidiot says...
6:57pm Wed 1 Feb 12

streetboy75 wrote:
set fire to it its only wood, lol thats one way to not worry about it anymore
I think actually you will find it is made of metal, and stands on metal piles driven into the earth, as when occidental owned it I think the then security gaurds used to drive a small car down it as part of their security perimeter check round.

upset says...
7:02pm Wed 1 Feb 12

Are all the Echo reporters paid up members of the CIIP? We support the freedom of the press so they can give unbiased and unfettered reporting so why don't they do some?
This particular structure is owned by a private owner who has a responsibly to keep it safe and insured for public liability, it was fenced off and is marked up as dangerous and keep off.
If the local trouble makers choose to dive, jump or fall off after ignoring the warnings it will stop them from damaging the Dutch cottage, riding offroders all over the a joining land and throwing stones at the buses and taxis.
Town councillors we do not want you wasting you time and our money over such unimportant things, if the Echo want to make the news let them.

Esmerelda says...
7:55pm Wed 1 Feb 12

Mummies and Daddies need to make sure that their little darlings are nowhere near the jetty.

Problem solved!

Southendracer says...
8:18pm Wed 1 Feb 12

this has been open for years now there is a road near by everyone wants to care.
there is nothink wrong with the jetty its the stairs that are breaking.
it is not just kids that use this fisherman use this aswell, i used to go up there myself.
why not just leave it alone or fix the stairs make it safe and let people use it.

Southendracer says...
8:21pm Wed 1 Feb 12

Esmerelda wrote:
Mummies and Daddies need to make sure that their little darlings are nowhere near the jetty.

Problem solved!
get your facts straight alot of adults go on this too not just the kids!

Brunning999 says...
10:13pm Wed 1 Feb 12

That jetty was built to withstand a nuclear attack on Basildon, fortunately the Basildon area became a nuclear free zone in the 80's and spent fortunes advising the Russians by means of large 'nuclear free zones' so the pier was abandoned.

APR says...
10:14pm Wed 1 Feb 12

Southendracer wrote:
Esmerelda wrote:
Mummies and Daddies need to make sure that their little darlings are nowhere near the jetty.

Problem solved!
get your facts straight alot of adults go on this too not just the kids!
Why ?, if they know it's dangerous.

perini says...
11:56pm Wed 1 Feb 12

Coastguards have repeatedly warned over the past year about groups of youths climbing on to the jetty, and there are concerns they could be seriously injured jumping or falling off
Concerns - who by? - let them kill themselves if they are that stupid!

Southendracer says...
7:56am Thu 2 Feb 12

APR wrote:
Southendracer wrote:
Esmerelda wrote:
Mummies and Daddies need to make sure that their little darlings are nowhere near the jetty.

Problem solved!
get your facts straight alot of adults go on this too not just the kids!
Why ?, if they know it's dangerous.
the jetty its itself is metal but once you are on top is concrete all the way to the end the only problem with it is the metal stairs are rusty and falling out.
someone has put a over the stairs all they need todo is fix the stairs.
that door has been wielded shut and someone just melts the weld so its got to be an adult who does it

upset says...
8:44am Thu 2 Feb 12

Are all the INDIE supporters hibernating or are they fed up with the continual whining and moaning of their councillors?

Duck Egg says...
8:54am Thu 2 Feb 12

Knock it down!!! And while you're at it knock the rest of Canvey down!!!

Southendracer says...
9:54am Thu 2 Feb 12

Duck Egg wrote:
Knock it down!!! And while you're at it knock the rest of Canvey down!!!
yea because knocking down the island is such a good idea.....NOT!
i was born and raised on canvey i moved to southend last year and trust me canvey is a better place to grow up on that southend.

Duck Egg says...
10:28am Thu 2 Feb 12

Southendracer wrote:
Duck Egg wrote:
Knock it down!!! And while you're at it knock the rest of Canvey down!!!
yea because knocking down the island is such a good idea.....NOT!
i was born and raised on canvey i moved to southend last year and trust me canvey is a better place to grow up on that southend.
yeah if you're a scrote.

Southendracer says...
10:36am Thu 2 Feb 12

Duck Egg wrote:
Southendracer wrote:
Duck Egg wrote:
Knock it down!!! And while you're at it knock the rest of Canvey down!!!
yea because knocking down the island is such a good idea.....NOT!
i was born and raised on canvey i moved to southend last year and trust me canvey is a better place to grow up on that southend.
yeah if you're a scrote.
don't be so stupid get a life

Mudlark1 says...
11:49am Thu 2 Feb 12

upset wrote:
Are all the Echo reporters paid up members of the CIIP? We support the freedom of the press so they can give unbiased and unfettered reporting so why don't they do some?
This particular structure is owned by a private owner who has a responsibly to keep it safe and insured for public liability, it was fenced off and is marked up as dangerous and keep off.
If the local trouble makers choose to dive, jump or fall off after ignoring the warnings it will stop them from damaging the Dutch cottage, riding offroders all over the a joining land and throwing stones at the buses and taxis.
Town councillors we do not want you wasting you time and our money over such unimportant things, if the Echo want to make the news let them.
Sadly the Council do have an obligation to ensure public safety for structures, builings etc, even if its not owned by them.
Having said that this jetty has been used for years and years by fishermen and women as well as kids, while I agree its unsafe there has only been one reported serious incident on this jetty in all those years and that was by a drunk who decided to see if he could fly and thought the mud in the case of not being able to fly would provide a soft landing, he found out to his cost he cant and it didnt.
The cost to local business if the jetty is closed for good would suprisingly be quite high, anglers from accross the South East come to this venue, especially in winter for the elusive Cod, Gone Fishing will suffer, local garages and eateries and drinking holes, ie the lobstersmack will suffer.
There is more chance of a pedistrian getting hurt outside GMD's due to cars and vans parked up on the pavement then there is at the jetty, maybe the Council should be looking into thhis first before wasting any money on a jetty that dosnt belong to them and is heavily used in the majority by sensible people.

Southendracer says...
11:54am Thu 2 Feb 12

Mudlark1 wrote:
upset wrote:
Are all the Echo reporters paid up members of the CIIP? We support the freedom of the press so they can give unbiased and unfettered reporting so why don't they do some?
This particular structure is owned by a private owner who has a responsibly to keep it safe and insured for public liability, it was fenced off and is marked up as dangerous and keep off.
If the local trouble makers choose to dive, jump or fall off after ignoring the warnings it will stop them from damaging the Dutch cottage, riding offroders all over the a joining land and throwing stones at the buses and taxis.
Town councillors we do not want you wasting you time and our money over such unimportant things, if the Echo want to make the news let them.
Sadly the Council do have an obligation to ensure public safety for structures, builings etc, even if its not owned by them.
Having said that this jetty has been used for years and years by fishermen and women as well as kids, while I agree its unsafe there has only been one reported serious incident on this jetty in all those years and that was by a drunk who decided to see if he could fly and thought the mud in the case of not being able to fly would provide a soft landing, he found out to his cost he cant and it didnt.
The cost to local business if the jetty is closed for good would suprisingly be quite high, anglers from accross the South East come to this venue, especially in winter for the elusive Cod, Gone Fishing will suffer, local garages and eateries and drinking holes, ie the lobstersmack will suffer.
There is more chance of a pedistrian getting hurt outside GMD's due to cars and vans parked up on the pavement then there is at the jetty, maybe the Council should be looking into thhis first before wasting any money on a jetty that dosnt belong to them and is heavily used in the majority by sensible people.
all they have todo is make it safe for people to use instead of letting it rot away.but they will find some way to make us pay to use it

Mudlark1 says...
12:24pm Thu 2 Feb 12

Southendracer wrote:
Mudlark1 wrote:
upset wrote:
Are all the Echo reporters paid up members of the CIIP? We support the freedom of the press so they can give unbiased and unfettered reporting so why don't they do some?
This particular structure is owned by a private owner who has a responsibly to keep it safe and insured for public liability, it was fenced off and is marked up as dangerous and keep off.
If the local trouble makers choose to dive, jump or fall off after ignoring the warnings it will stop them from damaging the Dutch cottage, riding offroders all over the a joining land and throwing stones at the buses and taxis.
Town councillors we do not want you wasting you time and our money over such unimportant things, if the Echo want to make the news let them.
Sadly the Council do have an obligation to ensure public safety for structures, builings etc, even if its not owned by them.
Having said that this jetty has been used for years and years by fishermen and women as well as kids, while I agree its unsafe there has only been one reported serious incident on this jetty in all those years and that was by a drunk who decided to see if he could fly and thought the mud in the case of not being able to fly would provide a soft landing, he found out to his cost he cant and it didnt.
The cost to local business if the jetty is closed for good would suprisingly be quite high, anglers from accross the South East come to this venue, especially in winter for the elusive Cod, Gone Fishing will suffer, local garages and eateries and drinking holes, ie the lobstersmack will suffer.
There is more chance of a pedistrian getting hurt outside GMD's due to cars and vans parked up on the pavement then there is at the jetty, maybe the Council should be looking into thhis first before wasting any money on a jetty that dosnt belong to them and is heavily used in the majority by sensible people.
all they have todo is make it safe for people to use instead of letting it rot away.but they will find some way to make us pay to use it
The cost will be huge Southendracer, the local angling club looked into taking it over but the cost was so that they just could not do it.
Its a catch 22, deemed to unsafe to use by the Council's and to costly to repair or demolish.
The company that owns it is based up North, i wont reveal their details but even they cant afford to demolish it. It maybe that the land part of it is finally torn down leaving the sea based part in place until such time either someone buys it to use or money is found to remove it completely, both of which at present is a unrealistic prospect.

Southendracer says...
12:49pm Thu 2 Feb 12

Mudlark1 wrote:
Southendracer wrote:
Mudlark1 wrote:
upset wrote:
Are all the Echo reporters paid up members of the CIIP? We support the freedom of the press so they can give unbiased and unfettered reporting so why don't they do some?
This particular structure is owned by a private owner who has a responsibly to keep it safe and insured for public liability, it was fenced off and is marked up as dangerous and keep off.
If the local trouble makers choose to dive, jump or fall off after ignoring the warnings it will stop them from damaging the Dutch cottage, riding offroders all over the a joining land and throwing stones at the buses and taxis.
Town councillors we do not want you wasting you time and our money over such unimportant things, if the Echo want to make the news let them.
Sadly the Council do have an obligation to ensure public safety for structures, builings etc, even if its not owned by them.
Having said that this jetty has been used for years and years by fishermen and women as well as kids, while I agree its unsafe there has only been one reported serious incident on this jetty in all those years and that was by a drunk who decided to see if he could fly and thought the mud in the case of not being able to fly would provide a soft landing, he found out to his cost he cant and it didnt.
The cost to local business if the jetty is closed for good would suprisingly be quite high, anglers from accross the South East come to this venue, especially in winter for the elusive Cod, Gone Fishing will suffer, local garages and eateries and drinking holes, ie the lobstersmack will suffer.
There is more chance of a pedistrian getting hurt outside GMD's due to cars and vans parked up on the pavement then there is at the jetty, maybe the Council should be looking into thhis first before wasting any money on a jetty that dosnt belong to them and is heavily used in the majority by sensible people.
all they have todo is make it safe for people to use instead of letting it rot away.but they will find some way to make us pay to use it
The cost will be huge Southendracer, the local angling club looked into taking it over but the cost was so that they just could not do it.
Its a catch 22, deemed to unsafe to use by the Council's and to costly to repair or demolish.
The company that owns it is based up North, i wont reveal their details but even they cant afford to demolish it. It maybe that the land part of it is finally torn down leaving the sea based part in place until such time either someone buys it to use or money is found to remove it completely, both of which at present is a unrealistic prospect.
its only the stairs that need fixing the rest is ok been up there plenty of times could do with hand rails though my mate fell of and broke his wrist

Mudlark1 says...
12:59pm Thu 2 Feb 12

The end has no railings what so ever, some of the railings along the length are also in need of repair, im not sure of the costs involved but it was substantial, what with all these pc safety laws thanks to the EU, to make it usuable for the public, it would be very expensive for a small Angling club, not to mention the public liability insurance required. The owners had it up for sale a few years ago at £750000.
Personally I reckon it would be a good investment for the local council longterm, its nearly as long as Sounthend pier and with a little bit of foresight and lots of funding could easily be turned around for a good long term investment, i'm certain local business would also get involved if the right vision for its future was put forward.

Southendracer says...
1:02pm Thu 2 Feb 12

Mudlark1 wrote:
The end has no railings what so ever, some of the railings along the length are also in need of repair, im not sure of the costs involved but it was substantial, what with all these pc safety laws thanks to the EU, to make it usuable for the public, it would be very expensive for a small Angling club, not to mention the public liability insurance required. The owners had it up for sale a few years ago at £750000.
Personally I reckon it would be a good investment for the local council longterm, its nearly as long as Sounthend pier and with a little bit of foresight and lots of funding could easily be turned around for a good long term investment, i'm certain local business would also get involved if the right vision for its future was put forward.
and being metal it will be better than southend peir

Mudlark1 says...
1:39pm Thu 2 Feb 12

Southendracer wrote:
Mudlark1 wrote:
The end has no railings what so ever, some of the railings along the length are also in need of repair, im not sure of the costs involved but it was substantial, what with all these pc safety laws thanks to the EU, to make it usuable for the public, it would be very expensive for a small Angling club, not to mention the public liability insurance required. The owners had it up for sale a few years ago at £750000.
Personally I reckon it would be a good investment for the local council longterm, its nearly as long as Sounthend pier and with a little bit of foresight and lots of funding could easily be turned around for a good long term investment, i'm certain local business would also get involved if the right vision for its future was put forward.
and being metal it will be better than southend peir
And it has concrete road, it was built to last thats for sure.
I can see it now coloured lights along its length, a pub and restaurant at the end with a small arcade, and the icing on the cake is there is now a brand new road in place to get you there, just think how much revenue there would be in parking fees alone. lol

Mudlark1 says...
1:43pm Thu 2 Feb 12

And I reckon the council could purchase it at a knock down bargin price, even consider compulsery purchase due to safety concerns, I reckon they could get the purchase price down to under £300,000. thats 200,000 less then the money wasted on the core strategy. BARGIN!!!! lol

Southendracer says...
1:46pm Thu 2 Feb 12

Mudlark1 wrote:
And I reckon the council could purchase it at a knock down bargin price, even consider compulsery purchase due to safety concerns, I reckon they could get the purchase price down to under £300,000. thats 200,000 less then the money wasted on the core strategy. BARGIN!!!! lol
and it wont burn down with a fire we could put a train on it to lol

upset says...
1:49pm Thu 2 Feb 12

Southendracer wrote:
Mudlark1 wrote:
The end has no railings what so ever, some of the railings along the length are also in need of repair, im not sure of the costs involved but it was substantial, what with all these pc safety laws thanks to the EU, to make it usuable for the public, it would be very expensive for a small Angling club, not to mention the public liability insurance required. The owners had it up for sale a few years ago at £750000.
Personally I reckon it would be a good investment for the local council longterm, its nearly as long as Sounthend pier and with a little bit of foresight and lots of funding could easily be turned around for a good long term investment, i'm certain local business would also get involved if the right vision for its future was put forward.
and being metal it will be better than southend peir
Let the gypsies break it up for the metal.

Southendracer says...
2:22pm Thu 2 Feb 12

upset wrote:
Southendracer wrote:
Mudlark1 wrote:
The end has no railings what so ever, some of the railings along the length are also in need of repair, im not sure of the costs involved but it was substantial, what with all these pc safety laws thanks to the EU, to make it usuable for the public, it would be very expensive for a small Angling club, not to mention the public liability insurance required. The owners had it up for sale a few years ago at £750000.
Personally I reckon it would be a good investment for the local council longterm, its nearly as long as Sounthend pier and with a little bit of foresight and lots of funding could easily be turned around for a good long term investment, i'm certain local business would also get involved if the right vision for its future was put forward.
and being metal it will be better than southend peir
Let the gypsies break it up for the metal.
or put gypsies on it and blow it up

APR says...
3:47pm Thu 2 Feb 12

I expect that if the council put gates up, and a sign saying "Keep Out, Dangerous Construction", people would still go on there. I don't see it as the council's problem.

If anyone needs to do anything, perhaps it's the PLA ?

finalcast says...
5:05pm Thu 2 Feb 12

Typical - the council decides what is and what is not safe for us.

A jetty that a few kids mess about on or a few fishermen use is hardly a high prority.

Council monies would be better spent on social housing, street lighting, policing, education and other more important matters.

Heath and saftey gone mad. Maybe the sea walls should be covered in concrete in case someone has a fall.

Leave it to the few individuals who use the place to decide if it is safe or not.

Wasting monies on getting rid of the jetty is on par with banning playing conkers in school. Basically bonkers.

geezer, innit says...
5:43pm Thu 2 Feb 12

is this the jetty that features on the cover of the Feelgoods album 'Down by the jetty'?

If so, it needs preserving as part of the Feelgoods' heritage trail surely...

streetboy75 says...
10:32am Fri 3 Feb 12

Duck Egg wrote:
Knock it down!!! And while you're at it knock the rest of Canvey down!!!
what a T**T

Mudlark1 says...
11:50am Fri 3 Feb 12

streetboy75 wrote:
Duck Egg wrote:
Knock it down!!! And while you're at it knock the rest of Canvey down!!!
what a T**T
Duck Egg demonstrates just how bitter people can get with the world, just because his housing benifit is likely to be slashed he will now have to go out and find a job for the first time in his life, it will be quite a shock for someone that sits around all day on his xbox living on handouts. I can understand how his qualifications will only see him on the minimum wage but what else can a lazy good for nothing idiot expect..

Southendracer says...
4:59pm Fri 3 Feb 12

Mudlark1 wrote:
streetboy75 wrote:
Duck Egg wrote:
Knock it down!!! And while you're at it knock the rest of Canvey down!!!
what a T**T
Duck Egg demonstrates just how bitter people can get with the world, just because his housing benifit is likely to be slashed he will now have to go out and find a job for the first time in his life, it will be quite a shock for someone that sits around all day on his xbox living on handouts. I can understand how his qualifications will only see him on the minimum wage but what else can a lazy good for nothing idiot expect..
I agree 100% lol

soul man says...
9:35pm Sun 5 Feb 12

what the council spend money on a fence, thats a waste, they need that money for their jolly up at xmas

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