Hadleigh businesses may miss all the Olympic action (From Echo)

I expect all the council members will be at the olympic event on a freebie - so they will not care.

As for the rest of us, we will wait until it is all over and then pay for the event for the next 10 years....

I am sorry, but at the end of the day they do not care. This has been the case from the start. All those poor people who had their businesses taken from them and their buildings demolished to make way for the Olympics, rite down to you the shopkeeper and us the general public.

Everybody has suffered in some way, just for a few weeks of Olympics. I cannot wait until it is all over.

Did Louise Nicholls honestly think that the Olympic Games being held in Hadleigh would benefit her Beauty Salon??? Watch the event and pop over the road for a manicure afterwards perhaps?

This is the Olympic Games, a once in a lifetime opportunity with a lasting legacy for Hadleigh & Castle Point and still people moan!

Madness

What will the lasting legacy be?
Cant see any benefit from the games being in Hadleigh. A statue on the roundabout at Victoria House Corner - wow!!
For sure the Council people will have their day. Just an inconvenience for locals in the main. Torch coming through - are there any Hadleigh folk involved?

mr_happy wrote:
I am sorry, but at the end of the day they do not care. This has been the case from the start. All those poor people who had their businesses taken from them and their buildings demolished to make way for the Olympics, rite down to you the shopkeeper and us the general public.

Everybody has suffered in some way, just for a few weeks of Olympics. I cannot wait until it is all over.

This has happened in every Olympic event city and town in the world. Hadleigh is no different.
I am afraid, hosting the Olympics is all about the prestige it bestows upon the host country and the individual oraganisers and bigwigs. If that means two fingers to the local towns who host the events, and it's reidents, then so be it. Silly of Hadleigh to think any different.

Sweet P wrote:
What will the lasting legacy be?
Cant see any benefit from the games being in Hadleigh. A statue on the roundabout at Victoria House Corner - wow!!
For sure the Council people will have their day. Just an inconvenience for locals in the main. Torch coming through - are there any Hadleigh folk involved?

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This has been a nice bit of free publicity for the businesses in Hadleigh.

have these people not heard of "business development"
its surely down to the business owner to entice people into their shops, salons etc in any way they can, and if they are banking on just two days out of how ever many years to make sure their business' survive then maybe they shouldnt be in business anyway.....

honestessex wrote:
have these people not heard of "business development"
its surely down to the business owner to entice people into their shops, salons etc in any way they can, and if they are banking on just two days out of how ever many years to make sure their business' survive then maybe they shouldnt be in business anyway.....

Seems about right.

Louise Nicholls recently complained about delays in the "regeneration" whilst wholly sensible checks are made on traffic flows etc and now she is complaining about the disruption that will be caused by the Olympics. What on earth does she think her complaints are going to achieve? Does she really think that Olympic visitors will want to stop off at her grotty little shop for a haircut? Methinks the lady says too much.

C A MacLean wrote:
Did Louise Nicholls honestly think that the Olympic Games being held in Hadleigh would benefit her Beauty Salon??? Watch the event and pop over the road for a manicure afterwards perhaps?

This is the Olympic Games, a once in a lifetime opportunity with a lasting legacy for Hadleigh & Castle Point and still people moan!

Madness

What an insult to this lady.
Mr MacLean I would expect better from the Chair of Castle Point Conservatives. Are you not supposed to be the party for business?
As to the legacy, what legacy and just what, other than than the overrated kudos of holding an Olympic event, does Canvey get other than being a car park?

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
Louise Nicholls recently complained about delays in the "regeneration" whilst wholly sensible checks are made on traffic flows etc and now she is complaining about the disruption that will be caused by the Olympics. What on earth does she think her complaints are going to achieve? Does she really think that Olympic visitors will want to stop off at her grotty little shop for a haircut? Methinks the lady says too much.

The "sensible checks on traffic" had to be done twice because the first one was flawed because of Sadler's Farm road works. Another waste of money.
You are just like Mr MacLean and very insulting to this lady who is only trying to earn a living.

John T Pharro wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote: Louise Nicholls recently complained about delays in the "regeneration" whilst wholly sensible checks are made on traffic flows etc and now she is complaining about the disruption that will be caused by the Olympics. What on earth does she think her complaints are going to achieve? Does she really think that Olympic visitors will want to stop off at her grotty little shop for a haircut? Methinks the lady says too much.

The "sensible checks on traffic" had to be done twice because the first one was flawed because of Sadler's Farm road works. Another waste of money. You are just like Mr MacLean and very insulting to this lady who is only trying to earn a living.

There hasn't been a "first" check on traffic flows, only computer simulations which are almost certainly flawed as they don't include many of the roads either side of Hadleigh. As for this whinging woman, you won't be familiar with her shed of a shop as you don't live in Hadleigh, do you? Truth is it's an eyesore and the sooner it goes the better, and if she had any nous she would have moved some time ago instead of carping on about her problems being someone elses fault. Sorry but that's the way it is.

It's 40 thousand spectators over two days or better still a constant tens of thosands visitors on the legacy over many years! Our course based mountain bike club (Hadleigh MTB Club) is looking for businesses in the area to advertise on our club website that's currently under construction, another idea is perhaps local shops offering a small discount on quiet days/evenings to club members.
The whole castle point & surrounding area will become a huge tourist attraction which all will benefit in the future.

Why all this pessimism ? An influx of visitors to the area will mean an influx of potential new customers to businesses in the town regardless of the type of business. A little innovation, enthusiasm and thinking outside the box is what is required.

How about Atlantis Beauty doing a special face paint offer for instance ? The local hairdresser's might like to consider highlighting in the colours of all the participating nations. The possibilities are endless. The butcher, the baker, the candle-stick maker, all could benefit. You've got to be in it to win it !

She is standing there looking like Hilda Ogden with her arms crossed.

This is a 2 day event one day of which she is probably
Not open anyway!

My advice to her is loosen up day the day off and lie back and it enjoy it AND the day off!

She's obviously not her own best customer is she ?

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote: Louise Nicholls recently complained about delays in the "regeneration" whilst wholly sensible checks are made on traffic flows etc and now she is complaining about the disruption that will be caused by the Olympics. What on earth does she think her complaints are going to achieve? Does she really think that Olympic visitors will want to stop off at her grotty little shop for a haircut? Methinks the lady says too much.

The "sensible checks on traffic" had to be done twice because the first one was flawed because of Sadler's Farm road works. Another waste of money. You are just like Mr MacLean and very insulting to this lady who is only trying to earn a living.

There hasn't been a "first" check on traffic flows, only computer simulations which are almost certainly flawed as they don't include many of the roads either side of Hadleigh. As for this whinging woman, you won't be familiar with her shed of a shop as you don't live in Hadleigh, do you? Truth is it's an eyesore and the sooner it goes the better, and if she had any nous she would have moved some time ago instead of carping on about her problems being someone elses fault. Sorry but that's the way it is.

Excuse me, yes there was and it was not computer generated. That is exactly what the "Echo" reported months back.

Miserable the lot of you, Hadleigh can and will benefit from the games and the legacy being set up, problem is everyone comments and moans without actually looking into it or even trying to get involved, I'm trading in Hadleigh don't have a problem, I'm getting involved in the legacy because I want to and have there fore tried to, there is already a huge number of cyclists in the area looking forward to it and a huge number of cyclists worldwide waiting to fly over and ride an olympic track themselves, you only have to look at the likes of Dalby forest and the surrounding area to see how much of a boost something like this can be to the area- and the other thing is generally if you can't drive somewhere what do you do stare at a wall or walk there... The major disruption or major influx of tourists and spectators who will more than likely have a look at what the town has to offer will be for two days! it's two days embrace it! or do you all behave like this when christmas falls on a saturday and you lose a Saturdays trading... What will damage the legacy is people behaving like this and not welcoming those who come, don't welcome them they won't come back... The negativity of it all irritates me, it's a good thing accept it your moaning will achieve nothing it's coming and you can't stop it.

The olympic cycle track is miles from Hadleigh shops...it's in a field!!
If 40,000 attend this to watch some cyclists (why?) then I doubt if anyone will be going anywhere ,it will be total gridlock,it's too far to walk to town.So 10,000 cars will head for Hadleigh which is hardly visitor friendly,no parking and few food outlets..
For food in hadleigh seek out a snicker bar from Menzies.

cycling as a sport is huge and as a result has a huge following, it's very exciting to watch and the events are like no other, it's very easy to find yourself mingling with the pros. It's not very far at all to walk to Hadleigh from the venue, there's multiple carparks, not sure what the restrictions are on those though during the event, although the park and rides and trains will be used by most and I'm sure that Castle, Latinos, The Ancora (in the pic above) the Poona and Masa, are all more than capable, and on top of that there's all the takeaways.. I think you really are doing Hadleigh a massive injustice

The only lasting legacy in Hadleigh will be:

The improved road leading down to the country park.
A track for cyclists to use, perhaps needing to belong to a club.

What else ?

someone posted a link further up^^ The country park will be open to everyone not just cyclists and most def not just club members, the proposed works will benefit all users. And as with any attraction you get tourists, and tourists tend to need somewhere to stay, to eat =, to shop.. there is sooo much potential and if embraced properly it will be a great thing

King 'El wrote:
She's obviously not her own best customer is she ?

What a disgusting shallow person you are! This lady informs people of her concerns for her livelihood and you remark on her looks!

Toerag!

John T Pharro wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote: Louise Nicholls recently complained about delays in the "regeneration" whilst wholly sensible checks are made on traffic flows etc and now she is complaining about the disruption that will be caused by the Olympics. What on earth does she think her complaints are going to achieve? Does she really think that Olympic visitors will want to stop off at her grotty little shop for a haircut? Methinks the lady says too much.

The "sensible checks on traffic" had to be done twice because the first one was flawed because of Sadler's Farm road works. Another waste of money. You are just like Mr MacLean and very insulting to this lady who is only trying to earn a living.

There hasn't been a "first" check on traffic flows, only computer simulations which are almost certainly flawed as they don't include many of the roads either side of Hadleigh. As for this whinging woman, you won't be familiar with her shed of a shop as you don't live in Hadleigh, do you? Truth is it's an eyesore and the sooner it goes the better, and if she had any nous she would have moved some time ago instead of carping on about her problems being someone elses fault. Sorry but that's the way it is.

Excuse me, yes there was and it was not computer generated. That is exactly what the "Echo" reported months back.

You're wrong, they haven't yet blocked off one lane either side for a proper test, as I believe they now intend to do.

v.randy wrote:
The olympic cycle track is miles from Hadleigh shops...it's in a field!!
If 40,000 attend this to watch some cyclists (why?) then I doubt if anyone will be going anywhere ,it will be total gridlock,it's too far to walk to town.So 10,000 cars will head for Hadleigh which is hardly visitor friendly,no parking and few food outlets..
For food in hadleigh seek out a snicker bar from Menzies.

What planet are you on?

It is less than 1 mile from the town centre, every day many trainees from the training centre walk the route, safely in less than 10 minutes.
Are you on the old 'Happy Baccy'

There is several food premises in Hadleigh Town Centre, including Morrisons which is new, there are several car parks, on site, leading to the site and in Hadleigh.

The only shop not there is Menzies the very shop you suggest.

Are you talking about Hadleigh Suffolk or Hadleigh on the Moon ?

E-Types. wrote:

King 'El wrote:
She's obviously not her own best customer is she ?

What a disgusting shallow person you are! This lady informs people of her concerns for her livelihood and you remark on her looks!

Toerag!

As it happens, I was referring to what I see as her down in the mouth attitude. For that I make no apology.

Your interpretation says much about your character. The aggresive nature of your response (11:55pm I note) lends much weight to the argument for a review of pub opening hours.

C A MacLean wrote:
Did Louise Nicholls honestly think that the Olympic Games being held in Hadleigh would benefit her Beauty Salon??? Watch the event and pop over the road for a manicure afterwards perhaps? This is the Olympic Games, a once in a lifetime opportunity with a lasting legacy for Hadleigh & Castle Point and still people moan! Madness

You are correct that the Olympics are a once in a lifetime experience, so is death, but personally I am not looking forward to that either.

The Olympics are coming to Hadleigh and if you notice people are now aware of Hadleigh Essex and not just the one in Suffolk, so it has had it's advantages already.

The events are for two hours on two days, it is true most people will be bussed in and out but that will not be everyone, if people have travelled to see the race they may want to hang around Hadleigh rather than rush off ! the benefits of the Olympics for Hadleigh are long term and not necessarily noticeable instantly.
Are the Olympics good for Hadleigh, Castle Point and even Essex, in my opinion the answer is Yes.

If Louise Nicholls' business can not sustain 1 extra days holiday, then I suggest that she should take advantage of the day off to look at her business plan. Perhaps get some lessons from muffindamule, who's idea of the face painting seems a great way to capitalise on the situation (and I'll throw in the idea of National Flag nail art). Don't forget the influx of locals for the Olympic Torch Relay, all potential new customers if the right incentives and attitudes are offered. So embrace the opportunity as a way to potential new customers. I don't know you, and I am sure it doesn't depict the true you, but this article and in particular the sullen face and crossed arms in the photograph of you does nothing to suggest a "friendly welcome and service" to potential customers. If as I suspect, the pose was the photographers idea, it has done you no favours. So hope to see some welcome "Olympics Banners" on July 6th.

hadleighmtber wrote:
Miserable the lot of you, Hadleigh can and will benefit from the games and the legacy being set up, problem is everyone comments and moans without actually looking into it or even trying to get involved, I'm trading in Hadleigh don't have a problem, I'm getting involved in the legacy because I want to and have there fore tried to, there is already a huge number of cyclists in the area looking forward to it and a huge number of cyclists worldwide waiting to fly over and ride an olympic track themselves, you only have to look at the likes of Dalby forest and the surrounding area to see how much of a boost something like this can be to the area- and the other thing is generally if you can't drive somewhere what do you do stare at a wall or walk there... The major disruption or major influx of tourists and spectators who will more than likely have a look at what the town has to offer will be for two days! it's two days embrace it! or do you all behave like this when christmas falls on a saturday and you lose a Saturdays trading... What will damage the legacy is people behaving like this and not welcoming those who come, don't welcome them they won't come back... The negativity of it all irritates me, it's a good thing accept it your moaning will achieve nothing it's coming and you can't stop it.

Well said.

I didn't even know Hadleigh had a town centre?

Jesslca wrote:
I didn't even know Hadleigh had a town centre?

Apparently :o)
As someone who has lived in Southend all my life, Hadleigh was just somewhere with a few shops and a church you passed through to get to Canvey, Rayleigh or Basildon.

emcee wrote:

Jesslca wrote: I didn't even know Hadleigh had a town centre?

Apparently :o) As someone who has lived in Southend all my life, Hadleigh was just somewhere with a few shops and a church you passed through to get to Canvey, Rayleigh or Basildon.

For most people it is. CPBC Councillors don't seem to understand that simple fact, they think that reducing the A13 to single carriageways will encourage more people to stop in Hadleigh but that's nonsense because the traffic jams it would cause will just make people want to get through the town asap. If the Councillors really want to "regenerate" Hadleigh they have to first recognise that it's just a small town astride a major A road.

King 'El wrote:

E-Types. wrote:

King 'El wrote:
She's obviously not her own best customer is she ?

What a disgusting shallow person you are! This lady informs people of her concerns for her livelihood and you remark on her looks!

Toerag!

As it happens, I was referring to what I see as her down in the mouth attitude. For that I make no apology.

Your interpretation says much about your character. The aggresive nature of your response (11:55pm I note) lends much weight to the argument for a review of pub opening hours.

She runs a BEAUTY saloon and you state

"She's obviously not her own best customer"

It was quite clear what you were implying, and when pulled about it you pretended you meant something else!

You are a ridiculous and still shallow person and those who gave you the thumbs up are very gullible

I'd say the fact that you tried to back track with such a pathetic response

" I was referring to what I see as her down in the mouth attitude"


Is very much your character.

Wrong place ,wrong time...luckily the 'event' equates to just a couple of miserable days for Southenders (ideal DIY time); then we can get back to normal and forget this farce ever happened.

v.randy wrote:
The olympic cycle track is miles from Hadleigh shops...it's in a field!!
If 40,000 attend this to watch some cyclists (why?) then I doubt if anyone will be going anywhere ,it will be total gridlock,it's too far to walk to town.So 10,000 cars will head for Hadleigh which is hardly visitor friendly,no parking and few food outlets..
For food in hadleigh seek out a snicker bar from Menzies.

Well you obviously haven't tried the shops there recently then.

hadleighmtber wrote:
Miserable the lot of you, Hadleigh can and will benefit from the games and the legacy being set up, problem is everyone comments and moans without actually looking into it or even trying to get involved, I'm trading in Hadleigh don't have a problem, I'm getting involved in the legacy because I want to and have there fore tried to, there is already a huge number of cyclists in the area looking forward to it and a huge number of cyclists worldwide waiting to fly over and ride an olympic track themselves, you only have to look at the likes of Dalby forest and the surrounding area to see how much of a boost something like this can be to the area- and the other thing is generally if you can't drive somewhere what do you do stare at a wall or walk there... The major disruption or major influx of tourists and spectators who will more than likely have a look at what the town has to offer will be for two days! it's two days embrace it! or do you all behave like this when christmas falls on a saturday and you lose a Saturdays trading... What will damage the legacy is people behaving like this and not welcoming those who come, don't welcome them they won't come back... The negativity of it all irritates me, it's a good thing accept it your moaning will achieve nothing it's coming and you can't stop it.

Could not agree more. It is a bad businessman that only looks at effects to his business over a couple of days without taking into account the bigger picture and the long term effects.

Hadleigh has been 'tarted up', has attracted new shops and actually looks an interesting place to stop and have a look around. Maybe not on 11th/12th August but any time.

You could argue that this could have been done without hosting the cycle event, it all could have been done before, but it wasn't. It took the kick of the Olympics coming to the town to start it off, and the effects will remain long after.

And yes, I do have a local business, but not the sort that can benefit directly on the weekend of the event. This Saturday had a real buzz as I passed through the town.

I do wonder what people will find to moan about afterwards, anyone got any idea's?

hadleighmtber wrote:
Miserable the lot of you, Hadleigh can and will benefit from the games and the legacy being set up, problem is everyone comments and moans without actually looking into it or even trying to get involved, I'm trading in Hadleigh don't have a problem, I'm getting involved in the legacy because I want to and have there fore tried to, there is already a huge number of cyclists in the area looking forward to it and a huge number of cyclists worldwide waiting to fly over and ride an olympic track themselves, you only have to look at the likes of Dalby forest and the surrounding area to see how much of a boost something like this can be to the area- and the other thing is generally if you can't drive somewhere what do you do stare at a wall or walk there... The major disruption or major influx of tourists and spectators who will more than likely have a look at what the town has to offer will be for two days! it's two days embrace it! or do you all behave like this when christmas falls on a saturday and you lose a Saturdays trading... What will damage the legacy is people behaving like this and not welcoming those who come, don't welcome them they won't come back... The negativity of it all irritates me, it's a good thing accept it your moaning will achieve nothing it's coming and you can't stop it.

Could not agree more. It is a bad businessman that only looks at effects to his business over a couple of days without taking into account the bigger picture and the long term effects.

Hadleigh has been 'tarted up', has attracted new shops and actually looks an interesting place to stop and have a look around. Maybe not on 11th/12th August but any time.

You could argue that this could have been done without hosting the cycle event, it all could have been done before, but it wasn't. It took the kick of the Olympics coming to the town to start it off, and the effects will remain long after.

And yes, I do have a local business, but not the sort that can benefit directly on the weekend of the event. This Saturday had a real buzz as I passed through the town.

I do wonder what people will find to moan about afterwards, anyone got any idea's?

hadleighmtber wrote:
Miserable the lot of you, Hadleigh can and will benefit from the games and the legacy being set up, problem is everyone comments and moans without actually looking into it or even trying to get involved, I'm trading in Hadleigh don't have a problem, I'm getting involved in the legacy because I want to and have there fore tried to, there is already a huge number of cyclists in the area looking forward to it and a huge number of cyclists worldwide waiting to fly over and ride an olympic track themselves, you only have to look at the likes of Dalby forest and the surrounding area to see how much of a boost something like this can be to the area- and the other thing is generally if you can't drive somewhere what do you do stare at a wall or walk there... The major disruption or major influx of tourists and spectators who will more than likely have a look at what the town has to offer will be for two days! it's two days embrace it! or do you all behave like this when christmas falls on a saturday and you lose a Saturdays trading... What will damage the legacy is people behaving like this and not welcoming those who come, don't welcome them they won't come back... The negativity of it all irritates me, it's a good thing accept it your moaning will achieve nothing it's coming and you can't stop it.

I have done what you said and looked at the Dalby forest web site.
Are you seriously trying to compare a forestry commission site like that with camping facilities etc geared towards leisure with the lack of parking let alone camping that Hadleigh has?
You keep going on about the Olympic legacy, apart from the mountain biking track just what is the legacy?
At least a made up cycle track/footpath made up from Benfleet to Leigh along the foreshore would have been something for far more people to enjoy. Instead just how many people will actually use the mountain bike course and will they have permanent access.
By the way I did ask Councillor Castle to consider this footpath/cycle track at a so called consultation meeting for the Olympics as a legacy. No response of course.

I wonder why the comments for the

"Southend set for big fun-filled weekend"

were deleted ?

I hope it wasn't because it was suggested that some of the "Prime Movers" behind the Olympics are more concerned with how many millions they are going to make. Rather than how successful the games may or may not be.

As a long term resident of Hadleigh. I have found it really enjoyable to see the old town getting a face lift. Hadleigh has a community feel to it , locals know each other by name. It has the presence of the sally army, whom on some weekends one can hear marching and playing instruments through the town, giving a hidden remnant of a lost village . Hadleigh castle country park, provides a great walk through to leigh old, past the former remains of henry the eights home. where the army had barrocks during the war. At the same time providing work for , disabled youngsters in the cafe. Hadleigh has been able to move with the times , so take in the bow fronted norman church, in the town. on your way to the oylmpic events!

As a long term resident of Hadleigh. I have found it really enjoyable to see the old town getting a face lift. Hadleigh has a community feel to it , locals know each other by name. It has the presence of the sally army, whom on some weekends one can hear marching and playing instruments through the town, giving a hidden remnant of a lost village . Hadleigh castle country park, provides a great walk through to leigh old, past the former remains of henry the eights home. where the army had barrocks during the war. At the same time providing work for , disabled youngsters in the cafe. Hadleigh has been able to move with the times , so take in the bow fronted norman church, in the town. on your way to the oylmpic events!

As a long term resident of Hadleigh. I have found it really enjoyable to see the old town getting a face lift. Hadleigh has a community feel to it , locals know each other by name. It has the presence of the sally army, whom on some weekends one can hear marching and playing instruments through the town, giving a hidden remnant of a lost village . Hadleigh castle country park, provides a great walk through to leigh old, past the former remains of henry the eights home. where the army had barrocks during the war. At the same time providing work for , disabled youngsters in the cafe. Hadleigh has been able to move with the times , so take in the bow fronted norman church, in the town. on your way to the oylmpic events!

As a long term resident of Hadleigh. I have found it really enjoyable to see the old town getting a face lift. Hadleigh has a community feel to it , locals know each other by name. It has the presence of the sally army, whom on some weekends one can hear marching and playing instruments through the town, giving a hidden remnant of a lost village . Hadleigh castle country park, provides a great walk through to leigh old, past the former remains of henry the eights home. where the army had barrocks during the war. At the same time providing work for , disabled youngsters in the cafe. Hadleigh has been able to move with the times , so take in the bow fronted norman church, in the town. on your way to the oylmpic events!

As a long term resident of Hadleigh. I have found it really enjoyable to see the old town getting a face lift. Hadleigh has a community feel to it , locals know each other by name. It has the presence of the sally army, whom on some weekends one can hear marching and playing instruments through the town, giving a hidden remnant of a lost village . Hadleigh castle country park, provides a great walk through to leigh old, past the former remains of henry the eights home. where the army had barrocks during the war. At the same time providing work for , disabled youngsters in the cafe. Hadleigh has been able to move with the times , so take in the bow fronted norman church, in the town. on your way to the oylmpic events!