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Driver intimidated on A127


A TRUCK driver who tailgated a motorist and swore at him on the A127 has prompted a police appeal for information.

At around 8.15am on February 19, a Braintree man was driving his black VW Golf in the Southend-bound 50mph limit stretch when a white tipper truck drove very close to the rear of his car.

The vehicle was also driven in a careless manner, with the driver swearing at the Golf driver, intimdating him.

Police are appealing for anyone who remembers seeing the incident to contact PC Dan Bray at Leigh police station on 0300 333 4444.

Comments(36)

Thames Gateway says...
12:04pm Sat 6 Mar 10

This happens all the time eon the roads around here. The Police's reliance on camera policing to detect and prosecute driving anomalies, and the lack of Police ever pulling up drivers for such offences, is, in my opinion, one of the main factors that leads to such behaviours as described above, becoming ever more prevalent.

Colleen G says...
12:42pm Sat 6 Mar 10

Best way to deal with apes like that is to slow down a bit at a time, eventually they'll get bored and go find another victim. Don't respond to the goofs or use your brake lights, just slow down gradually till they get the message. It terrifys me to see people driving along with tailgaters right up the exhaust pipe and not doing anyhting about it.

The cameras can pick this up just as well as the police, but as usual until 100s of people die from it, they're not interested.

Marshwalker says...
2:12pm Sat 6 Mar 10

Nothing new here! I get HGVs & LGVs tail gateing me though the road works on the M25 every time I am on it. I put my lights on & swich on my rear fog lights, just in case they cannot see me!! Jokeing aside, these truckers are a law unto them selves; I wonder sometimes if they do-not get finded for speeding through road works!! I certianly cannot afford to get any speeding finds, with the cost of motoring now adays, and the price of petrol riseing.
If these truckers cannot do their daily working hours & dutys, without breaking the driveing and road rules & Laws. Then they should not be doing the jobs!!

Biker One says...
2:43pm Sat 6 Mar 10

Colleen G wrote:
Best way to deal with apes like that is to slow down a bit at a time, eventually they'll get bored and go find another victim. Don't respond to the goofs or use your brake lights, just slow down gradually till they get the message. It terrifys me to see people driving along with tailgaters right up the exhaust pipe and not doing anyhting about it. The cameras can pick this up just as well as the police, but as usual until 100s of people die from it, they're not interested.
I would suggest that is not a good idea. Why make the situation worse? Just get out of the way of the idiot. And as far as the cameras are concerned, no they won't pick this up as they are number plate scanners (ANPR) and are no substitute for proper road policing.

A quick note to the Echo, it's spelt intimidating ! Try to get the simplest things correct please !!!!

stropmag says...
5:13pm Sat 6 Mar 10

It must have been unusually quiet on the A127 that morning for the driver of the VW to have heard the cursing.

southend lass says...
7:37pm Sat 6 Mar 10

I always slow down a little if someone tailgates me, I find it amusing and I like it when they get bored and soon realise that I wont be intimidated by them. Why should I give way to an idiot who is impatient and cannot keep to the speed limit!

Nebs says...
7:50pm Sat 6 Mar 10

It won't be long before insurance companies insist that we all have cameras in our cars.

bumble-bee0_1 says...
8:56pm Sat 6 Mar 10

Why don't the police use the AMPR cameras (automatic numberplate recognition) to track these people down. There are plenty of these on the A127.

APR says...
10:15pm Sat 6 Mar 10

They tailgate so the average speed cameras can't see their number plate ?

trucker1 says...
11:48pm Sat 6 Mar 10

I would sugest that instead of sitting in the right hand lane thinking that your speedo is showing the right speed you drive in the left hand lane where you belong and let traffic past it is not you job to regulate everybody else's speed.
Too many people drive in the right hand lane when the left lane is clear and then get the hump if someone flashes them to tell them that there is someone behind them.
First rule of the road drive on the left

essexboi1989 says...
8:03am Sun 7 Mar 10

why intimidate you fellow road users? how would they like it if someone did it to them!

southend lass says...
8:45am Sun 7 Mar 10

trucker1 wrote:
I would sugest that instead of sitting in the right hand lane thinking that your speedo is showing the right speed you drive in the left hand lane where you belong and let traffic past it is not you job to regulate everybody else's speed. Too many people drive in the right hand lane when the left lane is clear and then get the hump if someone flashes them to tell them that there is someone behind them. First rule of the road drive on the left
It is also not your job to flash your lights because you are impatient and if the 'first rule of the road is drive on the left' then why are you not there? I do not always stick to the speed limit and I admit that, even when this is the case I still get people trying to intimidate me and drive so close I could touch their bumpers. I hope you are not one of these people.

Colleen G says...
10:00am Sun 7 Mar 10

No one has mentioned hogging the overtaking lane, that's another story entirely. We're talking about the jackA SS es tailgating on normal lanes.

Make them take a retest that'll teach them, it's obvious they don't have a clue.

no1sawus says...
1:19pm Sun 7 Mar 10

I thought those circles with a red outer and a number in the middle indicated a MAXIMUM speed, not the speed you must drive at? There are a lot of reasons why someone may not be driving at the limit all the time.

Mark D says...
2:15pm Sun 7 Mar 10

no1sawus wrote:
I thought those circles with a red outer and a number in the middle indicated a MAXIMUM speed, not the speed you must drive at? There are a lot of reasons why someone may not be driving at the limit all the time.
Maybe, but on the A127 50mph is a very conservative speed limit.

APR says...
2:42pm Sun 7 Mar 10

I didn't think there was an overtaking lane on the A127, especially in the 50mph limit, where both lanes get used.
Tailgating is never a clever thing to do, even if you ARE driving a big 4x4, and you think the person in front isn't going fast enough.

northlandspark says...
2:50pm Sun 7 Mar 10

'A white tipper truck'
Could it have been our friends at Dale Farm?

BrushLover says...
3:17pm Sun 7 Mar 10

As a rule, i drive at the speed limit and generally try not to speed.
A week ago i made the mistake of driving to thorpe bay on a saturday night. bearing in mind the amount of boy racers and idiots driving about (hence lots of police) i was sticking to the speed limit. a car full of allegedly full grown men felt the need to drive right up in my bumper, drop back and rev up to right behind me again. they did this at least five times before i tapped my brakes, then continued again, so i indicated and pulled over onto the roadside parking. they nearly drove into the back of my car as i pulled over, and found the whole experience unnecessary and intimidating. i am a 25 year old female who was driving on my own at night, what sort of idiot thinks that is necessary when i was driving at the speed limit???

Annyetta says...
4:30pm Sun 7 Mar 10

It is rare to get tailgated in the left hand lane. On any dual carriageway or motorway you should drive in the left lane and use right hand lanes as overtaking lanes. BUT - not many people seem to know their highway code and insist on driving any way they want to. There should be a law that makes everyone retake their test every ten years.
If someone is being abusive - just get out of the way. It is possible that they are rushing to a personal emergency - it is possible they are just being idiots

thelonewhinger says...
5:10pm Sun 7 Mar 10

This is all a bit of a non-story, an everyday occurrence on the A127 in rush hour. No injuries, no collision just hurt feelings.
Now that the "safety" cameras are installed and traffic proceeds in two lanes at the mandatory 50 mph or less it can be frustrating to find many drivers plodding along at 35 - 40mph in the inside lane on a narrow dual carriageway which is laughingly called a trunk road. This means that a motorist proceeding safely and legally in the inside lane at 45-50 mph arrives behind the plodder at a closing speed some 15 mph more and has the option of braking to join a non-existant queue or relying on someone in the outer lane to give- way and allow them to overtake and re-join in front of the plodder.
It is of course at that point that the "Southend lasses" of the world decide it will be fun to accelerate to the speed they should perhaps have been travelling originally!
That said, tailgating is dangerous and offenders pose a danger to other road users. It is also unfortunate that there are never penalties for those self-righteous non-aware types (listening Coleen & Southend Lass?) who drive so many usually sober steady drivers to commit insane acts of road rage!

southend lass says...
7:03pm Sun 7 Mar 10

thelonewhinger wrote:
This is all a bit of a non-story, an everyday occurrence on the A127 in rush hour. No injuries, no collision just hurt feelings. Now that the "safety" cameras are installed and traffic proceeds in two lanes at the mandatory 50 mph or less it can be frustrating to find many drivers plodding along at 35 - 40mph in the inside lane on a narrow dual carriageway which is laughingly called a trunk road. This means that a motorist proceeding safely and legally in the inside lane at 45-50 mph arrives behind the plodder at a closing speed some 15 mph more and has the option of braking to join a non-existant queue or relying on someone in the outer lane to give- way and allow them to overtake and re-join in front of the plodder. It is of course at that point that the "Southend lasses" of the world decide it will be fun to accelerate to the speed they should perhaps have been travelling originally! That said, tailgating is dangerous and offenders pose a danger to other road users. It is also unfortunate that there are never penalties for those self-righteous non-aware types (listening Coleen & Southend Lass?) who drive so many usually sober steady drivers to commit insane acts of road rage!
Im sorry, did I say that I drive at 35-40 in a 50 area, I believe not, and I also admitted that I do speed myself occasionally which not many people do admit too, I only explained that if a tailgater is trying to intimidate me that I will not let in, I also agree that people who drive that slow in a marked area such as the A127 are a danger to the road. Does this mean I am self-righteous and non-aware? I dont think so, it just means that I will not be intimidaed by idiots who are impatient on the roads.

ilovelife says...
11:59pm Sun 7 Mar 10

how did this story even make the news? Its not even an offence to tailgate and your hardly going to get arrested cause you swore at someone. What a load of rubbish the driver of the VW should never of wasted police time by reporting this no actual offence has taken place.

westcliff willi says...
7:05am Mon 8 Mar 10

JUST PULL OVER AND GET OUT OF THE WAY..
YOU ARE NOT THE POLICE.
CONCENTRATE ON WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
if people want to run the risk of ticket
who are you to stop them.

Colleen G says...
7:59am Mon 8 Mar 10

ilovelife wrote:
how did this story even make the news? Its not even an offence to tailgate and your hardly going to get arrested cause you swore at someone. What a load of rubbish the driver of the VW should never of wasted police time by reporting this no actual offence has taken place.
It does make you wonder what kind of idiot is running *The Echo* if this is the only news they can find. I sincerely hope no one pays for this trash any more! I remember when the paper came out in the late 60s/early70s they gave a 6 week free trial and it was awesome news......

These days it's just a waste of good circulation.

PJR says...
11:08am Mon 8 Mar 10

If the driver was in the right hand lane travelling well below the speed limit - they are in the wrong. There is however, no excuse for tailgating. No excuse what so ever.

I had someone up my backside recently, on a single carriageway 40mph road - where I was doing 40mph. I had to brake suddenly, a dog nearly ran out into the road... they sped past me soon after, and swore. I just got on with it. Didn't run to the paper!

The problem is there are a lot of people who ignore the highway code and hog the lanes driving at below the speed limit. I don't mind what speed people want to drive at, but as it's also an offence to undertake, and I wish to drive faster than this person, while still within the legal limit, they should be considerate, and move over. I won't tailgate - I never would and never will, I don't like it when it's done to me. I don't even flash my lights. I just politely gesture that they should move over.

And yes, I'll admit I speed too. But if someone was driving at 50mph and that was the limit, I would stick behind them

R85 says...
12:40pm Mon 8 Mar 10

How can a ridiculous story like this make the news? Geeez be a man and get on with it, wtf, its not as if his car was hit! What a weak shell of a man to tell the papers! And if he was hogging the fast lane when he could have easily moved over then oh well he should have moved over!

richomack360 says...
12:48pm Mon 8 Mar 10

I also get intimidated when I visit my local Sainsbury's.

People are always too close behind me with their trolleys. So I slow down and force the deli queue into an almost stand still

MitchLive says...
12:59pm Mon 8 Mar 10

I now get intimidated when I use public toilets. The urinals were busy, so I had to use a cubicle. Everything was fine until I finished, zipped up, turned around to unlock the door and realised Leslie Grantham had been standing behind me the whole time.

richomack360 says...
1:03pm Mon 8 Mar 10

MitchLive wrote:
I now get intimidated when I use public toilets. The urinals were busy, so I had to use a cubicle. Everything was fine until I finished, zipped up, turned around to unlock the door and realised Leslie Grantham had been standing behind me the whole time.
You should of bashed him over the head with a dog shaped loo roll holder or something....them buried him in one of the many potholes

APR says...
2:00pm Mon 8 Mar 10

It's amazing how many posts a motoring story always gets on here.

Other stories hardly get a reply.

andyh says...
4:19pm Mon 8 Mar 10

Some cars speedometers (like my Prius*) have indications near the limit of permitted deviation from accuracy. When it indicates 50mph my actual road speed is just over 46mph. If you think you are not holding someone up when your speedometer shows the current speed limit** you may well be mistaken.
* it is so near the 10% legally permitted rather than the 5% that would be the obvious "target" that I have to wonder whether it is deliberate.
** and many drivers will not go nearer the limit that 2-3 mph below to avoid the risk of "drifting over the limit"

APR says...
5:52pm Mon 8 Mar 10

All speedometers are a touch on the "optomistic" side.

perini says...
12:06am Tue 9 Mar 10

R85 wrote:
How can a ridiculous story like this make the news? Geeez be a man and get on with it, wtf, its not as if his car was hit! What a weak shell of a man to tell the papers! And if he was hogging the fast lane when he could have easily moved over then oh well he should have moved over!
No such thing as a 'fast' lane. It's lane 1, 2 or 3. Use whatever lane and then move to the left.

anon anon says...
11:36am Tue 9 Mar 10

perini wrote:
R85 wrote: How can a ridiculous story like this make the news? Geeez be a man and get on with it, wtf, its not as if his car was hit! What a weak shell of a man to tell the papers! And if he was hogging the fast lane when he could have easily moved over then oh well he should have moved over!
No such thing as a 'fast' lane. It's lane 1, 2 or 3. Use whatever lane and then move to the left.
like your style , 100% spot on !!

Luther101 says...
2:24pm Tue 9 Mar 10

When will we ever learn? The best way to deal with tailgaters is simply to accelerate away from them, leaving them embarassed at the poor performance of their vehicles?

VillagerNo6 says...
6:54pm Wed 10 Mar 10

andyh wrote:
Some cars speedometers (like my Prius*) have indications near the limit of permitted deviation from accuracy. When it indicates 50mph my actual road speed is just over 46mph. If you think you are not holding someone up when your speedometer shows the current speed limit** you may well be mistaken. * it is so near the 10% legally permitted rather than the 5% that would be the obvious "target" that I have to wonder whether it is deliberate. ** and many drivers will not go nearer the limit that 2-3 mph below to avoid the risk of "drifting over the limit"
The exception to this are lorries which because of the tachograph have, like the Police, calibrated speedometers. Which is why we car drivers are always "in their way".


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