Schoolgirl attacked by robber in Leigh (From Echo)

'he ran off empty-handed towards West Leigh schools' . . . and no doubt onward to Leigh Station where he jumped on a train for his 45 minute journey back to his inner-city slum (because criminals like don't live amongst us here in safe south east Essex)

i wish the young girl well and that she can put this nasty incident behind her

Once again the robber spoke with a foreign accent. No doubt I will be castigated as racist for that remark but it is true, more often than not the robbers are immigrants. A curse on the politicians who let them in.

'The robber was of mixed race' - 'spoke with a foreign accent'

The two rarely go together!

ok you do gooders, say what you want to me cos i dont care.. find the robber, jail him and deport him. im not a racist but when it comes down to foreign scum doing these crimes whether they are born here or not DEPORT to their origin.. Ive got to now pay my tax keeping the half mixed whatever breed he is in prison and that's some of my tax from my wages and i work bloody hard for my wages ..

TerrySays2 wrote:
ok you do gooders, say what you want to me cos i dont care.. find the robber, jail him and deport him. im not a racist but when it comes down to foreign scum doing these crimes whether they are born here or not DEPORT to their origin.. Ive got to now pay my tax keeping the half mixed whatever breed he is in prison and that's some of my tax from my wages and i work bloody hard for my wages ..

i made my feelings known on this issue recently and was chastised for daring to say what you have said - there is no place in OUR society for scum like this, so send them back to anywhere that will gladly take them. What kind of $hit would target a 12 year old girl ?? Brave man eh - picking on a child (and a female at that). I really wish i was around to witness him trying to rob this girl - believe me, had i seen him, i would have sent him into 2013, make no mistake.

Here , here.
Pity Ken Clarke and Teresa May dont act on the majority of the country's wishes because I feel that most think like this but dont weant to be labelled.

I of course wish the girl well too and yet I can't agree with any of the above. Firstly, the UKs prison population reflects its multi-ethnic society pretty much down to the last decimal point.

Secondly, every lawyer and judge will tell you that both victims and eye witness statements are chronically unreliable. Not because they are lying or wish to blame someone in particular, simply because they are under significant emotional stress, which can taint memory massively.

More to the point, the only reason why some groups of society are perceived to be more active in crime is because of media reports and their perception. Just look at the Benfleet car shooting incident that the local fishwrapper reported about a some time ago. The first reaction from some commentators here was: Eastern European drug dealers... Shame it turned out to have been two born and bred Brits from Hadleigh or Benfleet, I forget. The EE reported on this too, oddly none of the previous writers of such comments found anything to say about that.

As for such comments as 'scum' and worse, I feel rather strongly about this. I am an immigrant myself. I may have been born with a German passport some 50+ years ago but I have paid my dues to this country in more then one way and I am proud to hold a British passport now.

There are Brits imprisoned in other countries too, you know. Want them back? There are Brits committing crimes abroad too, want them as well? No, this is Europe, like it or leave it, you are stuck with it and maybe looking at how much money the EU plows into this country every year, maybe, just maybe should should be quite grateful for that and the fact that it was something the Maggie T sorted out for this country decades ago.

Anyway, be that as it may, I hope the girl is well and will forget her ordeal soon. Best wishes to her, after all, that was what the article was about in the first place.

agree with Terry, and Al's response. (Feel Al was being facetious in his first comment?? )I too said something a while ago, not even sure what it was, i got banned for a bit till i sorted it out with Echo, was not told exactly ,what it was I said tho, so i could defend myself against whoever it was that complained !!

UK Fan wrote:
I of course wish the girl well too and yet I can't agree with any of the above. Firstly, the UKs prison population reflects its multi-ethnic society pretty much down to the last decimal point.

Secondly, every lawyer and judge will tell you that both victims and eye witness statements are chronically unreliable. Not because they are lying or wish to blame someone in particular, simply because they are under significant emotional stress, which can taint memory massively.

More to the point, the only reason why some groups of society are perceived to be more active in crime is because of media reports and their perception. Just look at the Benfleet car shooting incident that the local fishwrapper reported about a some time ago. The first reaction from some commentators here was: Eastern European drug dealers... Shame it turned out to have been two born and bred Brits from Hadleigh or Benfleet, I forget. The EE reported on this too, oddly none of the previous writers of such comments found anything to say about that.

As for such comments as 'scum' and worse, I feel rather strongly about this. I am an immigrant myself. I may have been born with a German passport some 50+ years ago but I have paid my dues to this country in more then one way and I am proud to hold a British passport now.

There are Brits imprisoned in other countries too, you know. Want them back? There are Brits committing crimes abroad too, want them as well? No, this is Europe, like it or leave it, you are stuck with it and maybe looking at how much money the EU plows into this country every year, maybe, just maybe should should be quite grateful for that and the fact that it was something the Maggie T sorted out for this country decades ago.

Anyway, be that as it may, I hope the girl is well and will forget her ordeal soon. Best wishes to her, after all, that was what the article was about in the first place.

in reference to your offence of the word 'scum'

This is a person who attempted to commit a crime on a child involving bodily harm !!!! What crime does he turn to after this event ? Serious assault ? Rape ? Murder ?

How, exactly, would you refer to this individual had it been your daughter who he attempted to mug ? On reflection, scum is actually too lenient !

naughtyladyofshadyla
ne wrote:
agree with Terry, and Al's response. (Feel Al was being facetious in his first comment?? )I too said something a while ago, not even sure what it was, i got banned for a bit till i sorted it out with Echo, was not told exactly ,what it was I said tho, so i could defend myself against whoever it was that complained !!

i was, of course, being facetious ;)

Happy that you saw through my tongue-in-cheek remark !

al coniston wrote:
'he ran off empty-handed towards West Leigh schools' . . . and no doubt onward to Leigh Station where he jumped on a train for his 45 minute journey back to his inner-city slum (because criminals like don't live amongst us here in safe south east Essex) i wish the young girl well and that she can put this nasty incident behind her

NO ONE knows WHERE he went, why say " no doubt" towards the station because criminals don`t live here in the south east east?

No one has said anything to the contrary, yet you seem to be defending a point of view that hasn`t even been challenged, talk about defensive!!.

Almeda11 wrote:

al coniston wrote:
'he ran off empty-handed towards West Leigh schools' . . . and no doubt onward to Leigh Station where he jumped on a train for his 45 minute journey back to his inner-city slum (because criminals like don't live amongst us here in safe south east Essex) i wish the young girl well and that she can put this nasty incident behind her

NO ONE knows WHERE he went, why say " no doubt" towards the station because criminals don`t live here in the south east east?

No one has said anything to the contrary, yet you seem to be defending a point of view that hasn`t even been challenged, talk about defensive!!.

i will refer you to my previous comment

UK Fan wrote:
I of course wish the girl well too and yet I can't agree with any of the above. Firstly, the UKs prison population reflects its multi-ethnic society pretty much down to the last decimal point. Secondly, every lawyer and judge will tell you that both victims and eye witness statements are chronically unreliable. Not because they are lying or wish to blame someone in particular, simply because they are under significant emotional stress, which can taint memory massively. More to the point, the only reason why some groups of society are perceived to be more active in crime is because of media reports and their perception. Just look at the Benfleet car shooting incident that the local fishwrapper reported about a some time ago. The first reaction from some commentators here was: Eastern European drug dealers... Shame it turned out to have been two born and bred Brits from Hadleigh or Benfleet, I forget. The EE reported on this too, oddly none of the previous writers of such comments found anything to say about that. As for such comments as 'scum' and worse, I feel rather strongly about this. I am an immigrant myself. I may have been born with a German passport some 50+ years ago but I have paid my dues to this country in more then one way and I am proud to hold a British passport now. There are Brits imprisoned in other countries too, you know. Want them back? There are Brits committing crimes abroad too, want them as well? No, this is Europe, like it or leave it, you are stuck with it and maybe looking at how much money the EU plows into this country every year, maybe, just maybe should should be quite grateful for that and the fact that it was something the Maggie T sorted out for this country decades ago. Anyway, be that as it may, I hope the girl is well and will forget her ordeal soon. Best wishes to her, after all, that was what the article was about in the first place.

UK FAN, You say this in your comment "More to the point, the only reason why some groups of society are perceived to be more active in crime is because of media reports and their perception"

Well, obviously in this particular case that was NOT the case was it!

This girl had already been attacked, reported it to the police and THEN it had been reported to the media, not before, so your observations in general, and l agree with them in general, cannot apply in this instance.

l really think the facts speak for themselves, she was also assaulted for refusing to had over her money and her mobile phone her " handy!, and although she would obviously have been emotional, who wouldn`t, l don`t think that this makes her story any the less reliable, or believable.

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
'The robber was of mixed race' - 'spoke with a foreign accent' The two rarely go together!

What rubbish, and l am speaking factually here, nothing to do with being a racist, which l am most definately NOT. BUT, by my own observations l have seen more mixed race or african/indian people ect who DO speak with an accent, sometimes only a slight one, than who speak with no accent.
These are MY observations, and l have lived in Southend for over 60 years!

agree with Al again, yes had it been that person's daughter, a different kettle of fish!! I think before one defends - yes , one has to say it "scum"- one should put themselves in the shoes , of the attacked!!

Almeda11 wrote:

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
'The robber was of mixed race' - 'spoke with a foreign accent' The two rarely go together!

What rubbish, and l am speaking factually here, nothing to do with being a racist, which l am most definately NOT. BUT, by my own observations l have seen more mixed race or african/indian people ect who DO speak with an accent, sometimes only a slight one, than who speak with no accent.
These are MY observations, and l have lived in Southend for over 60 years!

Utter tripe!

in other news, good to see Almeda11 utilising the thumbs up/down option.

Yawn . . . .

Totally agree with the idea of deporting non nationals who are found to be guilty of crimes here in the UK. We have enough to deal with getting British criminals behind bars. Export them and have them locked up in the respective homeland. Better still put a share price on the removal of criminal activity that always seems to make things hot up!

al coniston wrote:

Almeda11 wrote:

al coniston wrote: 'he ran off empty-handed towards West Leigh schools' . . . and no doubt onward to Leigh Station where he jumped on a train for his 45 minute journey back to his inner-city slum (because criminals like don't live amongst us here in safe south east Essex) i wish the young girl well and that she can put this nasty incident behind her

NO ONE knows WHERE he went, why say " no doubt" towards the station because criminals don`t live here in the south east east? No one has said anything to the contrary, yet you seem to be defending a point of view that hasn`t even been challenged, talk about defensive!!.

i will refer you to my previous comment

l saw your previous comment, but there is no connection between the 2, or if there is perhaps you can enlighten me!

Soouthchurch59 wrote:

Almeda11 wrote:

Soouthchurch59 wrote: 'The robber was of mixed race' - 'spoke with a foreign accent' The two rarely go together!

What rubbish, and l am speaking factually here, nothing to do with being a racist, which l am most definately NOT. BUT, by my own observations l have seen more mixed race or african/indian people ect who DO speak with an accent, sometimes only a slight one, than who speak with no accent. These are MY observations, and l have lived in Southend for over 60 years!

Utter tripe!

No it isn`t, unless you run around with your eyes and ears shut!!

al coniston wrote:
in other news, good to see Almeda11 utilising the thumbs up/down option. Yawn . . . .

My goodness Al Coniston, l was right wasn`t l, you ARE defensive, AND, am l the ONLY person on here? Of course not! there are others and everyone will vote as they see fit, yourself included no doubt! Enjoy the rest of your day!

Almeda11 wrote:

al coniston wrote:
in other news, good to see Almeda11 utilising the thumbs up/down option. Yawn . . . .

My goodness Al Coniston, l was right wasn`t l, you ARE defensive, AND, am l the ONLY person on here? Of course not! there are others and everyone will vote as they see fit, yourself included no doubt! Enjoy the rest of your day!

the fact that you neg'd everyone while only your comments all received positives does not require the services of Miss Marple !

And thanks, i had a wonderful day, which is why i have only just logged into this site

I think it's awful! My son who is 12 walks to and from school on his own and I thought it was safe for him, now I'm worried but don't want to take his independence away! At a loss what to do and feel very scared that this has happened, the streets are just not safe anymore! :(

If you dont want to frighten him, or take his independence away, I would watch from a distance, if you can , so that he does not know you are there, is that possible?

al coniston wrote:

UK Fan wrote: I of course wish the girl well too and yet I can't agree with any of the above. Firstly, the UKs prison population reflects its multi-ethnic society pretty much down to the last decimal point. Secondly, every lawyer and judge will tell you that both victims and eye witness statements are chronically unreliable. Not because they are lying or wish to blame someone in particular, simply because they are under significant emotional stress, which can taint memory massively. More to the point, the only reason why some groups of society are perceived to be more active in crime is because of media reports and their perception. Just look at the Benfleet car shooting incident that the local fishwrapper reported about a some time ago. The first reaction from some commentators here was: Eastern European drug dealers... Shame it turned out to have been two born and bred Brits from Hadleigh or Benfleet, I forget. The EE reported on this too, oddly none of the previous writers of such comments found anything to say about that. As for such comments as 'scum' and worse, I feel rather strongly about this. I am an immigrant myself. I may have been born with a German passport some 50+ years ago but I have paid my dues to this country in more then one way and I am proud to hold a British passport now. There are Brits imprisoned in other countries too, you know. Want them back? There are Brits committing crimes abroad too, want them as well? No, this is Europe, like it or leave it, you are stuck with it and maybe looking at how much money the EU plows into this country every year, maybe, just maybe should should be quite grateful for that and the fact that it was something the Maggie T sorted out for this country decades ago. Anyway, be that as it may, I hope the girl is well and will forget her ordeal soon. Best wishes to her, after all, that was what the article was about in the first place.

in reference to your offence of the word 'scum' This is a person who attempted to commit a crime on a child involving bodily harm !!!! What crime does he turn to after this event ? Serious assault ? Rape ? Murder ? How, exactly, would you refer to this individual had it been your daughter who he attempted to mug ? On reflection, scum is actually too lenient !

This robber is not likely to turn to rape and murder don't get over excited. Children need to make sure they don't walk along talking on their phones thus giving these people the ideal opportunity to steal from them.

My last comment on this post... Prison then deport to place of origin on mothers or fathers side as mixed race means half English and half something else so whatever the something else is DEPORT and lets free up the country from the low life scum forever. Too many dogooders too frightened to speak up.

agree with you terry. Also agree people do flaunt their phones, but they should be able to !!

al coniston wrote:

Almeda11 wrote:

al coniston wrote: in other news, good to see Almeda11 utilising the thumbs up/down option. Yawn . . . .

My goodness Al Coniston, l was right wasn`t l, you ARE defensive, AND, am l the ONLY person on here? Of course not! there are others and everyone will vote as they see fit, yourself included no doubt! Enjoy the rest of your day!

the fact that you neg'd everyone while only your comments all received positives does not require the services of Miss Marple ! And thanks, i had a wonderful day, which is why i have only just logged into this site

You DON`T KNOW, Mr Defensive WHO l`v`e negt, do you, it`s sheer gueswork and it`s wrong!, sorry to disappoint you, but as l said previously, there ARE other people on here Sherlock!
And l notice you still haven`t pointed out the fact that, and l quote " there is no connection between the 2, or if there is perhaps you can enlighten me"

Still waiting!

TerrySays2 wrote:
My last comment on this post... Prison then deport to place of origin on mothers or fathers side as mixed race means half English and half something else so whatever the something else is DEPORT and lets free up the country from the low life scum forever. Too many dogooders too frightened to speak up.

Have you ever actually met a mixed race person who spoke with a foreign accent?

What I'd like to know is, it appears there is a good description of this bloke, what he was wearing, tattoo - so surely it can't be that hard to nail him???

Soouthchurch59 wrote:

TerrySays2 wrote:
My last comment on this post... Prison then deport to place of origin on mothers or fathers side as mixed race means half English and half something else so whatever the something else is DEPORT and lets free up the country from the low life scum forever. Too many dogooders too frightened to speak up.

Have you ever actually met a mixed race person who spoke with a foreign accent?

Ive met lots of half breeds that have an accent. How about FATBOY from eastenders, can anyone understand what he says.

yes I can

TerrySays2 wrote:

Soouthchurch59 wrote:

TerrySays2 wrote:
My last comment on this post... Prison then deport to place of origin on mothers or fathers side as mixed race means half English and half something else so whatever the something else is DEPORT and lets free up the country from the low life scum forever. Too many dogooders too frightened to speak up.

Have you ever actually met a mixed race person who spoke with a foreign accent?

Ive met lots of half breeds that have an accent. How about FATBOY from eastenders, can anyone understand what he says.

'Ive met lots of half breeds that have an accent'

You lie so smoothly.....

Besides, I'm talking about a 'foreign accent', not some muggy american rap/gangster style bull$hit that's been copied from the 'movies' and is spoken by a lot of impressionable youngsters, - including 'white' ones!

It's my guess you've *never* met a mixed (black/white) race person with a accent.

Soouthchurch59 wrote:

Almeda11 wrote:

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
'The robber was of mixed race' - 'spoke with a foreign accent' The two rarely go together!

What rubbish, and l am speaking factually here, nothing to do with being a racist, which l am most definately NOT. BUT, by my own observations l have seen more mixed race or african/indian people ect who DO speak with an accent, sometimes only a slight one, than who speak with no accent.
These are MY observations, and l have lived in Southend for over 60 years!

Utter tripe!

How do you know, Southchurch ? I'm sure there is the odd individual who manages to stick it out that long.

muffindamule wrote:

Soouthchurch59 wrote:

Almeda11 wrote:

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
'The robber was of mixed race' - 'spoke with a foreign accent' The two rarely go together!

What rubbish, and l am speaking factually here, nothing to do with being a racist, which l am most definately NOT. BUT, by my own observations l have seen more mixed race or african/indian people ect who DO speak with an accent, sometimes only a slight one, than who speak with no accent.
These are MY observations, and l have lived in Southend for over 60 years!

Utter tripe!

How do you know, Southchurch ? I'm sure there is the odd individual who manages to stick it out that long.

Yes, but even 60 years of lovely sea air, has done little to clear the cobwebs that cloud Amelda11’s thought process.

Soouthchurch59 wrote:

muffindamule wrote:

Soouthchurch59 wrote:

Almeda11 wrote:

Soouthchurch59 wrote: 'The robber was of mixed race' - 'spoke with a foreign accent' The two rarely go together!

What rubbish, and l am speaking factually here, nothing to do with being a racist, which l am most definately NOT. BUT, by my own observations l have seen more mixed race or african/indian people ect who DO speak with an accent, sometimes only a slight one, than who speak with no accent. These are MY observations, and l have lived in Southend for over 60 years!

Utter tripe!

How do you know, Southchurch ? I'm sure there is the odd individual who manages to stick it out that long.

Yes, but even 60 years of lovely sea air, has done little to clear the cobwebs that cloud Amelda11’s thought process.

Ha, ha, ha, NO cobwebs around MY thinking, couldn`t say the same about yours though!

naughtyladyofshadyla
ne wrote:
yes I can

I can believe that.

so glad !

Until locals defend their areas this will continue

Catch them and deport back to where exactly? No doubt has as much right to live in the UK as everyone posting on here unfortunately!!
So catch them, string them up and allow this young girls parents/ family kick the living pi55 out of them..
Wont do it again!!!