Mum-to-be shaken as log thrown at her car (From Echo)

Oh my God! Do these children have no respect at all? Not even for an unborn life? Say, it could have been that young boy's baby brother/sister if the boot was on the other foot!

Kids don't realise how dangerous these machines can be when control is lost.

Silly five minute spasms can easily result in a child.....

That boy should join 'Special Branch' when he is older.

This incident, I believe, happened on Monday. On Tuesday, a boy was reprimanded by staff for holding a lighter to the face of the boy standing in front of my daughter. Today, as I picked up my daughter from school, Mr Mecham was breaking up a fight between two boys that was spilling into the path of the oncoming cars in Shipwrights Drive.

King John was once a school that people fought to get their children into. Unfortunately, it’s now living on its past reputation when it was under the leadership of the previous Head. Under Miss Wilson, I have watched the school deteriorate over the past six years and can’t wait to get my daughter out. Behaviour like this is really a daily occurrence. The pupils at this school have no leadership from the top, Miss Wilson is never in the school as she is/has been too busy being a ‘Business Manager’ travelling home and abroad mentoring failing schools, advising government quangos or acting in her capacity as non-executive director of Edexcel. She was not even in attendance at my daughters leaving assembly, what kind of head is that?

The parents of this boy do seem to have acted responsibly having found themselves in a bad situation. However, they should question why their son’s school places him in an environment that propagates this kind of behaviour in the first place.

skools av got kids in dem.

kids do silly fings.

get ova it.

Ello! wrote:
skools av got kids in dem. kids do silly fings. get ova it.

You need to go to school then you may learn how to spell.
Not sure why the dad should pay for the boys criminal damage .

Ello! wrote:
skools av got kids in dem.

kids do silly fings.

get ova it.

SPEAK ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!

I would have asked for the repair to be fully paid for. Not just the excess. It affects the victims no-claims bonus.
It would be better for the kid to pay for it, but I suspect it would take forever. By the sound of it the parents will get him to pay some how though.

Fortunately nobody has been seriously hurt.

Should have picked the branch up and battered the sh*t out of the little tw*t.

I have got a police record too ...'walking on the moon' ha ha
on a more serious note I don't think I'd be guilty the little sh*t has got a criminal record, he nearly caused a serious accident!! had there been oncoming traffic this could have been fatal could it not?

perini wrote:
Should have picked the branch up and battered the sh*t out of the little tw*t.

100000% spot on

benfleet101 wrote:
This incident, I believe, happened on Monday. On Tuesday, a boy was reprimanded by staff for holding a lighter to the face of the boy standing in front of my daughter. Today, as I picked up my daughter from school, Mr Mecham was breaking up a fight between two boys that was spilling into the path of the oncoming cars in Shipwrights Drive. King John was once a school that people fought to get their children into. Unfortunately, it’s now living on its past reputation when it was under the leadership of the previous Head. Under Miss Wilson, I have watched the school deteriorate over the past six years and can’t wait to get my daughter out. Behaviour like this is really a daily occurrence. The pupils at this school have no leadership from the top, Miss Wilson is never in the school as she is/has been too busy being a ‘Business Manager’ travelling home and abroad mentoring failing schools, advising government quangos or acting in her capacity as non-executive director of Edexcel. She was not even in attendance at my daughters leaving assembly, what kind of head is that? The parents of this boy do seem to have acted responsibly having found themselves in a bad situation. However, they should question why their son’s school places him in an environment that propagates this kind of behaviour in the first place.

I could not agree more with this post. I was at King John when Mr Yeomans was the head and I was also there when Miss Wilson took over so I witnessed the changes first hand. Everything did suddenly start to deteriorate when I think back. At the time it was great as I was a pupil and the rules all started changing...even simple things like how our uniform should look was relaxed where as before they used to be very strict, we were allowed in parts of the school grounds where we hadn't been previously, discipline was certainly relaxed. I think Mr Yeomans was a respected head teacher, compared to Miss Wilson who is a friendly business woman.

The word is called respect

Couldn't agree more that the school is going downhill fast under softy lefty Ms Wilson, bring back Mr Yeoman I say and lets have some proper discipline. ps My eldest grandson is at KJS now and my youngest son is just about to leave KJS, so we are hearing about all this from many sources, Get tough Ms Wilson or go now.

The man is a **** for going to the papers about jack ****. Get over it.

C.B wrote:
The man is a **** for going to the papers about jack ****. Get over it.

The papers may have approached him - they do get to hear of these incidents, however, all parties who made comments were mindful not to name the boy in order to protect his identity - something you have now helped to highlight.

C.B wrote:
The man is a **** for going to the papers about jack ****. Get over it.

So you think it's OK for a teenager to throw something at a passing car and nearly cause an accident? A car that was carrying a heavily pregnant woman? Thats hardly what I would call "jack*****".

I sincerely hope an incident occurs to you or your family so I can remind you to "Get over it".

Indicative of the kind of idiot we seem to be breeding in South East Essex these days

perini wrote:
Should have picked the branch up and battered the sh*t out of the little tw*t.

Maybe you would have wanted the story to end something like this?

You'll probably read the below section and be disgusted, but will probably make similar comments like you all do on stories where kids seem to show no respect.

Read the below storyand maybe re-think your comments?

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A science teacher is being questioned over the attempted murder of a schoolboy who suffered serious head injuries in a classroom attack.

Peter Harvey is also being quizzed about allegedly assaulting two of the 14-year-old boy's classmates during the same incident at All Saints' Roman Catholic School in Mansfield on Wednesday.

Officers were called to the school in Broomhill Lane after paramedics arrived to find Jack Waterhouse unconscious in a pool of blood at the entrance to a classroom in its science block.

The 49-year-old teacher, who is local to the area, was arrested shortly afterwards and remains in custody at Mansfield police station.

Detectives have until 8.15pm on Friday to question Harvey when they will either have to release him, charge him or ask for a time extension so they can quiz him further.

There were more than 20 students in the classroom at about 11am on Wednesday when it appears a row erupted between the boy and the science teacher during a lesson.

According to parents, Harvey allegedly "snapped", lashing out at Jack with a weight used to teach science.

The youngster was taken from the blood-spattered classroom to the Kings Mill Hospital in Mansfield, where his condition deteriorated.

On Wednesday afternoon he was transferred to a specialist head injury unit at the Queen's Medical Centre in Nottingham. Police said there was grave concern for his life but his condition has since stabilised. He has not yet undergone surgery and his parents are at his bedside, Nottinghamshire Police said.

Another boy and a girl, both 14 and in the youngster's Year 9 class, were recovering at home after allegedly being assaulted during the same incident. They did not need hospital treatment. Police refused to say whether they were injured after leaping to their classmate's defence.

Maybe the boy threw a log at his car?

Ello! wrote:

perini wrote: Should have picked the branch up and battered the sh*t out of the little tw*t.

Maybe you would have wanted the story to end something like this? You'll probably read the below section and be disgusted, but will probably make similar comments like you all do on stories where kids seem to show no respect. Read the below storyand maybe re-think your comments? - - - A science teacher is being questioned over the attempted murder of a schoolboy who suffered serious head injuries in a classroom attack. Peter Harvey is also being quizzed about allegedly assaulting two of the 14-year-old boy's classmates during the same incident at All Saints' Roman Catholic School in Mansfield on Wednesday. Officers were called to the school in Broomhill Lane after paramedics arrived to find Jack Waterhouse unconscious in a pool of blood at the entrance to a classroom in its science block. The 49-year-old teacher, who is local to the area, was arrested shortly afterwards and remains in custody at Mansfield police station. Detectives have until 8.15pm on Friday to question Harvey when they will either have to release him, charge him or ask for a time extension so they can quiz him further. There were more than 20 students in the classroom at about 11am on Wednesday when it appears a row erupted between the boy and the science teacher during a lesson. According to parents, Harvey allegedly "snapped", lashing out at Jack with a weight used to teach science. The youngster was taken from the blood-spattered classroom to the Kings Mill Hospital in Mansfield, where his condition deteriorated. On Wednesday afternoon he was transferred to a specialist head injury unit at the Queen's Medical Centre in Nottingham. Police said there was grave concern for his life but his condition has since stabilised. He has not yet undergone surgery and his parents are at his bedside, Nottinghamshire Police said. Another boy and a girl, both 14 and in the youngster's Year 9 class, were recovering at home after allegedly being assaulted during the same incident. They did not need hospital treatment. Police refused to say whether they were injured after leaping to their classmate's defence. Maybe the boy threw a log at his car?

Maybe that action was a tad extreme but too many young scrotes think that they can get away with anything. The state of today's legal system would seem to support that view but something needs to be done to send a clear message to these idiots that they will not be tolerated any more.

Ello! wrote:
skools av got kids in dem. kids do silly fings. get ova it.

yup i agree

Ello! wrote:

perini wrote: Should have picked the branch up and battered the sh*t out of the little tw*t.

Maybe you would have wanted the story to end something like this? You'll probably read the below section and be disgusted, but will probably make similar comments like you all do on stories where kids seem to show no respect. Read the below storyand maybe re-think your comments? - - - A science teacher is being questioned over the attempted murder of a schoolboy who suffered serious head injuries in a classroom attack. Peter Harvey is also being quizzed about allegedly assaulting two of the 14-year-old boy's classmates during the same incident at All Saints' Roman Catholic School in Mansfield on Wednesday. Officers were called to the school in Broomhill Lane after paramedics arrived to find Jack Waterhouse unconscious in a pool of blood at the entrance to a classroom in its science block. The 49-year-old teacher, who is local to the area, was arrested shortly afterwards and remains in custody at Mansfield police station. Detectives have until 8.15pm on Friday to question Harvey when they will either have to release him, charge him or ask for a time extension so they can quiz him further. There were more than 20 students in the classroom at about 11am on Wednesday when it appears a row erupted between the boy and the science teacher during a lesson. According to parents, Harvey allegedly "snapped", lashing out at Jack with a weight used to teach science. The youngster was taken from the blood-spattered classroom to the Kings Mill Hospital in Mansfield, where his condition deteriorated. On Wednesday afternoon he was transferred to a specialist head injury unit at the Queen's Medical Centre in Nottingham. Police said there was grave concern for his life but his condition has since stabilised. He has not yet undergone surgery and his parents are at his bedside, Nottinghamshire Police said. Another boy and a girl, both 14 and in the youngster's Year 9 class, were recovering at home after allegedly being assaulted during the same incident. They did not need hospital treatment. Police refused to say whether they were injured after leaping to their classmate's defence. Maybe the boy threw a log at his car?

or maybe the boy threatened the teacher with a knife?

it's a very tragic story and i hope the boy recovers, however, once again people jump to conclusions that the victim is blameless, this, unfortunately, is not always the case.

I saw this happen, and was coming in the opposite way.

I saw the log hit your car, and in no way did the driver swerve, you just carried on like normal and came to a controlled stop. Which i was mighty impressed with!

There was loads of traffic about aswell, not sure how you didnt see any other oncoming cars.

I agree the kids were in the wrong though, i hope your gf is ok.

Yer i mean it wasnt the kids thought and he didnt even mean to hit the car! if you through a branch over a fence your not going to see a car coming past

Little Susie wrote:
Oh my God! Do these children have no respect at all? Not even for an unborn life? Say, it could have been that young boy's baby brother/sister if the boot was on the other foot! Kids don't realise how dangerous these machines can be when control is lost.

How is the kid going to know that there is a women in a car whos 9 months pregant through a wooden fence that you cant see through unless the kid has x-ray sight and super hearing i guess he didnt mean it on purpose! So stop being such a idiot -.- and think your big putting comments about a boy who accedently done it this is what you call a bully!

The branch joke has already gone but........



Maybe the boy has a poor family tree.

The school should keep a log of such incidents.

The driver should have twigged something was up.

Maybe the head can bark at the boy for being such a plank.

I wonder what I wood have done.

I wonder where the root of this problem lies.

I think the boy should be made to leaf.

I've heard that the police were stumped.

Its a good job it wasn't thrown onto a trunk road.

etc

etc

benfleet101 wrote:

C.B wrote: The man is a **** for going to the papers about jack ****. Get over it.

The papers may have approached him - they do get to hear of these incidents, however, all parties who made comments were mindful not to name the boy in order to protect his identity - something you have now helped to highlight.

Jack sh1t is innocent!!!! lol

M.H wrote:

Little Susie wrote:
Oh my God! Do these children have no respect at all? Not even for an unborn life? Say, it could have been that young boy's baby brother/sister if the boot was on the other foot! Kids don't realise how dangerous these machines can be when control is lost.

How is the kid going to know that there is a women in a car whos 9 months pregant through a wooden fence that you cant see through unless the kid has x-ray sight and super hearing i guess he didnt mean it on purpose! So stop being such a idiot -.- and think your big putting comments about a boy who accedently done it this is what you call a bully!

MrH from Benfleet are you related to the boy at all?

Any reasonably intelligent kid above the age of about 8 would realise that throwing an item onto a busy road is wrong and is dangerous.

How do you "accedently"(sic) throw a branch (sparkeh calls it a log by the way) over a reasonably high fence into the road then?

According to the report, the "giggling boys found it funny".

I wonder if the father may have coughed up the £250 excess, understands that he will also likely be pursued by the insurance company for the balance of the cost of repairs. So that's £500 then. Plus the cost of any hire car. Probably won't get much change from a grand.

Also should the car driver or passenger decide to pursue a civil prosecution for damages/shock they would be very likely to win. Make that another £500 or so.

I hope the boy now realises the stupidity of his actions.

Its pethetic how newspapers make a whole different story. I was there at the incident going to my tutor and i saw it. The boy had a tiny, thin branch in his hand and he threw it over the school fence and it hit a mans car and the man did not swereve or anything, he just stopped his car and shouted at the boy, and the boy ran to his tutor and the man decided to jump over our school fence and chase the boy. The mans car did not smash, as i walked past it when he was in the main office.

**! TOMM13 !** wrote:
Its pethetic how newspapers make a whole different story. I was there at the incident going to my tutor and i saw it. The boy had a tiny, thin branch in his hand and he threw it over the school fence and it hit a mans car and the man did not swereve or anything, he just stopped his car and shouted at the boy, and the boy ran to his tutor and the man decided to jump over our school fence and chase the boy. The mans car did not smash, as i walked past it when he was in the main office.

Thats the Echo (and other papers) all over.

It takes a schoolboy to point out that in order to sell papers, the journalists take a sensational viewpoint in order to make one party so innocent and tragic and the other party look like the monster.

There have been many times lately that the echo has crossed the line between informative news medium and sensationalist rag.

Look at the echo headlines over the last year. Its all one sided biased attention seeking, and it is putting a lot of people off what used to be a good local oracle.

Get a grip echo, start reporting facts rather than soundbites and ill thought out personal opinion.

Reading some of the peoples comments on here and it make's me think how many idiots are out there.
I drive past the school every day and the fence is a green wire fence for starters where pupils can see out and people can see in. the child of 13 must have some understanding of right and wrong so whether he threw a log stick brick or anything over a fence on a busy road is just idiotic. As for the driver of the car whether he swerved or not has got nothing to do with the fact that this could have been fatal and shouldnt have happened, i feel sorry for the boys dad having to pay for the damage but at the end of the day it was his son that caused it. And also i think the school should be paying a bit more attention to the goings on of the children at break time etc. I would also like to add that if the driver did loose control of his/her car and hit an oncoming car this boy would be facing alot more than a telling off!. Whether the paper is 100% true to fact we will never know

Must be one hell of a "tiny thin branch" to cause that much damage to the car. (Look at the photo at the top of the page).

Also no matter how "tiny" or "thin" the branch was, (And I point out that Sparkeh, saw the incident and described it as a "log",(see post above). The fact is that it was wrong to do it.

teven Brownlie, who was driving the car, said: “All I saw was a black object, and there was a mighty great bang.

“It was a case of keeping hold of the steering wheel as it was going all over the show. If there was another oncoming car it could’ve been fatal.”

Mr Brownlie, 27, managed to keep control of the BMW 328i Sport, which suffered £500 damage.

Hardly sounds like a "tiny, thin branch".

A tiny scratch on one of those "Chelsea Tractors" can easily cost £500 or more to put right.

Anyway, shouldn't this story be in the Castle Point section ?

APR wrote:
A tiny scratch on one of those "Chelsea Tractors" can easily cost £500 or more to put right.

Anyway, shouldn't this story be in the Castle Point section ?

http://www.urbandict
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p?term=Chelsea%20Tra
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Chelsea Tractor
Any expensive 4x4 that is driven in an urban environment as a status symbol (typically for the school run) and will never be driven off-road.
An offroad car that never goes offroad.

The car above is actually a BMW 3 series which is a saloon car not a "Chelsea Tractor".

A scratch on most cars can cost a few hundred pounds to put right.

My mistake, I took it for a 4x4.

They all look the same to me :)

How do we know that the car had a front bumper before the twig was thrown?

It may be one of the 'modifications' to make the car go faster.

Like most echo readers, I need full CCTV proof before I believe anything.

M.H wrote:

Little Susie wrote: Oh my God! Do these children have no respect at all? Not even for an unborn life? Say, it could have been that young boy's baby brother/sister if the boot was on the other foot! Kids don't realise how dangerous these machines can be when control is lost.

How is the kid going to know that there is a women in a car whos 9 months pregant through a wooden fence that you cant see through unless the kid has x-ray sight and super hearing i guess he didnt mean it on purpose! So stop being such a idiot -.- and think your big putting comments about a boy who accedently done it this is what you call a bully!

I'm in no way trying to be a bully!

Surely he knew that there was a road behind that fence, though? Why did it need to be thrown over the fence and not into the trash?

If this had turned out awful and the car had ploughed into a tree (like has been known to happen) this young boy would be feeling much worse than he is now!

If this was indeed the case and it was an accident, then he will think better next time.

Just a little common sense, please is all we ask.