Man stabbed in Southend town centre

Man stabbed in Southend town centre

Man stabbed in Southend town centre

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EXTRA police have been brought in to patrol Southend town centre following a stabbing. Emergency services were called out to a property in York Road at 11.30am on Sunday following reports a man had suffered stab wounds in nearby Warrior Square. The square was cordoned off for two hours while a forensic examination was completed. The 19-year-old male victim from New Cross Gate in south London is currently in a stable condition in hospital after receiving treatments for a minor stab wound. He is currently refusing to tell police what happened. An 18-year-old from Borough in south London was arrested on suspicion of assault and later released on police bail until Saturday, July 20 pending further inquiries. Anyone with information in connection with the stabbing in Warrior Square is urged to contact detectives at Southend police station on 101 or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555111.

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11:32am Mon 6 May 13

Rich.,Carol says...

That's a long way for an African man to be from New cross London to crime free Southend. Theres no report this was a racist attack. Was it over drugs ? Not a great report.
That's a long way for an African man to be from New cross London to crime free Southend. Theres no report this was a racist attack. Was it over drugs ? Not a great report. Rich.,Carol
  • Score: 3

11:32am Mon 6 May 13

OscarDeLaSpiffSpaff says...

And the council wants to house these people near your families
And the council wants to house these people near your families OscarDeLaSpiffSpaff
  • Score: 8

11:34am Mon 6 May 13

Rich.,Carol says...

Rich.,Carol wrote:
That's a long way for an African man to be from New cross London to crime free Southend. Theres no report this was a racist attack. Was it over drugs ? Not a great report.
Just found out the man who stabbed the other man was also African so it wasn't a racist attack. Also found out the man with stab wounds has refused to give a statement. So this must have been gang related.
[quote][p][bold]Rich.,Carol[/bold] wrote: That's a long way for an African man to be from New cross London to crime free Southend. Theres no report this was a racist attack. Was it over drugs ? Not a great report.[/p][/quote]Just found out the man who stabbed the other man was also African so it wasn't a racist attack. Also found out the man with stab wounds has refused to give a statement. So this must have been gang related. Rich.,Carol
  • Score: 4

11:37am Mon 6 May 13

lennyfy says...

Southend - City of Culture
Southend - City of Culture lennyfy
  • Score: 6

12:08pm Mon 6 May 13

How-ironic says...

Rich.,Carol wrote:
Rich.,Carol wrote:
That's a long way for an African man to be from New cross London to crime free Southend. Theres no report this was a racist attack. Was it over drugs ? Not a great report.
Just found out the man who stabbed the other man was also African so it wasn't a racist attack. Also found out the man with stab wounds has refused to give a statement. So this must have been gang related.
Why couldn't it be race related?
[quote][p][bold]Rich.,Carol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich.,Carol[/bold] wrote: That's a long way for an African man to be from New cross London to crime free Southend. Theres no report this was a racist attack. Was it over drugs ? Not a great report.[/p][/quote]Just found out the man who stabbed the other man was also African so it wasn't a racist attack. Also found out the man with stab wounds has refused to give a statement. So this must have been gang related.[/p][/quote]Why couldn't it be race related? How-ironic
  • Score: 1

12:24pm Mon 6 May 13

jayman says...

Southend needs crime fighting super hero...

~purple flag man~
Southend needs crime fighting super hero... ~purple flag man~ jayman
  • Score: 3

12:37pm Mon 6 May 13

Soouthchurch59 says...

Move along folks, nothing to see here.....

Two men from out of the area just happen air their differences in Sunny Southend-On-Sea.

Hardly a cause for any real concern.
Move along folks, nothing to see here..... Two men from out of the area just happen air their differences in Sunny Southend-On-Sea. Hardly a cause for any real concern. Soouthchurch59
  • Score: 1

12:43pm Mon 6 May 13

marybelle says...

Vote UKIP for freedom of speech and what we all know is required.
Vote UKIP for freedom of speech and what we all know is required. marybelle
  • Score: 7

12:44pm Mon 6 May 13

supermadmax says...

"He is currently refusing to tell police what happened."

I have not problem with this, the lads clearly have a grievance & wish to keep things to themselves. As long as they are no hurting anyone innocent I fail to see why the police should divert anymore time to this.

To be fair, I doubt this incident is a dramatic as the headline suggests.

"treatments for a minor stab wound" sums it up, it was most likely a little scrap that got out of hand.
"He is currently refusing to tell police what happened." I have not problem with this, the lads clearly have a grievance & wish to keep things to themselves. As long as they are no hurting anyone innocent I fail to see why the police should divert anymore time to this. To be fair, I doubt this incident is a dramatic as the headline suggests. "treatments for a minor stab wound" sums it up, it was most likely a little scrap that got out of hand. supermadmax
  • Score: -3

1:14pm Mon 6 May 13

jayman says...

extra police?... A single police officer 'walking' about and not in a car (I know!) would be a 100% increase.

but remember.

If you are a victim or witness to a crime, suspect a crime may be about to happen or have information relating to a crime or criminal activity. Please feel free to contact Essex police. Once you have established contact with one of our desk officers you will be provided with a plethora of reasons why we cannot attend or cannot follow up on the information you provide. The new police and crime commissioner remains a complete non-entity and a costly burden in the efficiency and delivery of police services. we will inform you that the information you provide will be passed on to our intelligence department when in fact we are busy looking at a health and safety flow chart that has all arrows pointing to 'do nothing'
extra police?... A single police officer 'walking' about and not in a car (I know!) would be a 100% increase. but remember. If you are a victim or witness to a crime, suspect a crime may be about to happen or have information relating to a crime or criminal activity. Please feel free to contact Essex police. Once you have established contact with one of our desk officers you will be provided with a plethora of reasons why we cannot attend or cannot follow up on the information you provide. The new police and crime commissioner remains a complete non-entity and a costly burden in the efficiency and delivery of police services. we will inform you that the information you provide will be passed on to our intelligence department when in fact we are busy looking at a health and safety flow chart that has all arrows pointing to 'do nothing' jayman
  • Score: 4

1:17pm Mon 6 May 13

Red Under Your Bed says...

Rich.,Carol wrote:
That's a long way for an African man to be from New cross London to crime free Southend. Theres no report this was a racist attack. Was it over drugs ? Not a great report.
Where does it say African in the report?
[quote][p][bold]Rich.,Carol[/bold] wrote: That's a long way for an African man to be from New cross London to crime free Southend. Theres no report this was a racist attack. Was it over drugs ? Not a great report.[/p][/quote]Where does it say African in the report? Red Under Your Bed
  • Score: -1

1:18pm Mon 6 May 13

How-ironic says...

Red Under Your Bed wrote:
Rich.,Carol wrote:
That's a long way for an African man to be from New cross London to crime free Southend. Theres no report this was a racist attack. Was it over drugs ? Not a great report.
Where does it say African in the report?
It doesn't, it's just a bigot
[quote][p][bold]Red Under Your Bed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich.,Carol[/bold] wrote: That's a long way for an African man to be from New cross London to crime free Southend. Theres no report this was a racist attack. Was it over drugs ? Not a great report.[/p][/quote]Where does it say African in the report?[/p][/quote]It doesn't, it's just a bigot How-ironic
  • Score: -4

1:29pm Mon 6 May 13

OscarDeLaSpiffSpaff says...

Theres nobody else in south london
Theres nobody else in south london OscarDeLaSpiffSpaff
  • Score: 5

2:39pm Mon 6 May 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

why don't they go back to south london to do the stabbing....don't they know we are trying to be the city of culture..this could well put a spanner in the works.
why don't they go back to south london to do the stabbing....don't they know we are trying to be the city of culture..this could well put a spanner in the works. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 5

2:45pm Mon 6 May 13

OscarDeLaSpiffSpaff says...

The met are too ruff with them in the city, and the clubs are full of ogre women with horsehair and others with knives, they can walk around freely harrassing women in essex and the worst they face is a few students or essex police who will give them a cup of coffee and some cornflakes before letting them go
The met are too ruff with them in the city, and the clubs are full of ogre women with horsehair and others with knives, they can walk around freely harrassing women in essex and the worst they face is a few students or essex police who will give them a cup of coffee and some cornflakes before letting them go OscarDeLaSpiffSpaff
  • Score: 8

4:30pm Mon 6 May 13

Nebs says...

jayman wrote:
Southend needs crime fighting super hero...

~purple flag man~
This is the text of a letter I recently sent to the purple flag people....

Association of Town Centre Management
1 Queen Anne's Gate
Westminster
London SW1H 9BT


Dear Sir,

Purple Flag, Southend-on-Sea

It’s that time of year again, when the purple flag for Southend-on-Sea is up for renewal. My suggestion to you, which would benefit both the purple flag scheme and Southend-on-Sea, is to refuse the renewal. Why do I suggest this? Well, purple flag suggests that:
• More people would use centres at night if they were safer, more accessible and offered more choice
o Southend is no longer safe at night. Many people are afraid of walking the streets at night. Crime is rife. You only have to read the local newspaper, the Echo, to see what is happening, drug dealers, prostitution, theft, assaults, muggings, and drunks and druggies everywhere when the pubs and clubs close. It is more like the Police Gazette than a local paper.
o More accessible and more choice? Accessible if you have a car. Even better if you can afford a taxi. Not quite as good for those who rely on public transport, with many bus routes stopping in the early evening and no night bus routes at all.
• A good mix of clientele can lessen intimidation and improve perceptions
o But, equally, the wrong type of clientele can increase intimidation and damage peoples perceptions.
• A wider range of attractions and consumers leads to longer term economic viability
o The only growing businesses in this area seem to be burglary, theft, cannabis growing, and drug dealing. If that is what you are trying to encourage then you are doing a great job.

If you were to refuse to renew the purple flag for Southend then there would be benefits for everyone:
1. Local and national newspapers would report it, giving the purple flag organisation some much needed publicity.
2. It would enable the police in Southend to make reasonable requests to the government for additional funding to tackle the problems.
3. The credibility of the purple flag scheme would be improved, as opposed to the current thinking of most people who have heard of purple flag, which is “You pay the fee, you get the flag”.
4. The local council might be encouraged to actually do something, as opposed to just buying a flag and pretending everything in the garden is rosy.

When you send your trained Purple Flag Assessor to carry out an overnight assessment of our area could I suggest they go for a walk between midnight and 4am along the following roads: York Rd, Ambleside Dr, Riviera Dr, Southchurch Rd, Hamlet Court Rd, then go for a rest on one of the benches in Warrior Square. No need for a police escort, just carry a purple flag.

Yours faithfully,
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: Southend needs crime fighting super hero... ~purple flag man~[/p][/quote]This is the text of a letter I recently sent to the purple flag people.... Association of Town Centre Management 1 Queen Anne's Gate Westminster London SW1H 9BT Dear Sir, Purple Flag, Southend-on-Sea It’s that time of year again, when the purple flag for Southend-on-Sea is up for renewal. My suggestion to you, which would benefit both the purple flag scheme and Southend-on-Sea, is to refuse the renewal. Why do I suggest this? Well, purple flag suggests that: • More people would use centres at night if they were safer, more accessible and offered more choice o Southend is no longer safe at night. Many people are afraid of walking the streets at night. Crime is rife. You only have to read the local newspaper, the Echo, to see what is happening, drug dealers, prostitution, theft, assaults, muggings, and drunks and druggies everywhere when the pubs and clubs close. It is more like the Police Gazette than a local paper. o More accessible and more choice? Accessible if you have a car. Even better if you can afford a taxi. Not quite as good for those who rely on public transport, with many bus routes stopping in the early evening and no night bus routes at all. • A good mix of clientele can lessen intimidation and improve perceptions o But, equally, the wrong type of clientele can increase intimidation and damage peoples perceptions. • A wider range of attractions and consumers leads to longer term economic viability o The only growing businesses in this area seem to be burglary, theft, cannabis growing, and drug dealing. If that is what you are trying to encourage then you are doing a great job. If you were to refuse to renew the purple flag for Southend then there would be benefits for everyone: 1. Local and national newspapers would report it, giving the purple flag organisation some much needed publicity. 2. It would enable the police in Southend to make reasonable requests to the government for additional funding to tackle the problems. 3. The credibility of the purple flag scheme would be improved, as opposed to the current thinking of most people who have heard of purple flag, which is “You pay the fee, you get the flag”. 4. The local council might be encouraged to actually do something, as opposed to just buying a flag and pretending everything in the garden is rosy. When you send your trained Purple Flag Assessor to carry out an overnight assessment of our area could I suggest they go for a walk between midnight and 4am along the following roads: York Rd, Ambleside Dr, Riviera Dr, Southchurch Rd, Hamlet Court Rd, then go for a rest on one of the benches in Warrior Square. No need for a police escort, just carry a purple flag. Yours faithfully, Nebs
  • Score: 5

5:38pm Mon 6 May 13

supermadmax says...

Nebs wrote:
jayman wrote:
Southend needs crime fighting super hero...

~purple flag man~
This is the text of a letter I recently sent to the purple flag people....

Association of Town Centre Management
1 Queen Anne's Gate
Westminster
London SW1H 9BT


Dear Sir,

Purple Flag, Southend-on-Sea

It’s that time of year again, when the purple flag for Southend-on-Sea is up for renewal. My suggestion to you, which would benefit both the purple flag scheme and Southend-on-Sea, is to refuse the renewal. Why do I suggest this? Well, purple flag suggests that:
• More people would use centres at night if they were safer, more accessible and offered more choice
o Southend is no longer safe at night. Many people are afraid of walking the streets at night. Crime is rife. You only have to read the local newspaper, the Echo, to see what is happening, drug dealers, prostitution, theft, assaults, muggings, and drunks and druggies everywhere when the pubs and clubs close. It is more like the Police Gazette than a local paper.
o More accessible and more choice? Accessible if you have a car. Even better if you can afford a taxi. Not quite as good for those who rely on public transport, with many bus routes stopping in the early evening and no night bus routes at all.
• A good mix of clientele can lessen intimidation and improve perceptions
o But, equally, the wrong type of clientele can increase intimidation and damage peoples perceptions.
• A wider range of attractions and consumers leads to longer term economic viability
o The only growing businesses in this area seem to be burglary, theft, cannabis growing, and drug dealing. If that is what you are trying to encourage then you are doing a great job.

If you were to refuse to renew the purple flag for Southend then there would be benefits for everyone:
1. Local and national newspapers would report it, giving the purple flag organisation some much needed publicity.
2. It would enable the police in Southend to make reasonable requests to the government for additional funding to tackle the problems.
3. The credibility of the purple flag scheme would be improved, as opposed to the current thinking of most people who have heard of purple flag, which is “You pay the fee, you get the flag”.
4. The local council might be encouraged to actually do something, as opposed to just buying a flag and pretending everything in the garden is rosy.

When you send your trained Purple Flag Assessor to carry out an overnight assessment of our area could I suggest they go for a walk between midnight and 4am along the following roads: York Rd, Ambleside Dr, Riviera Dr, Southchurch Rd, Hamlet Court Rd, then go for a rest on one of the benches in Warrior Square. No need for a police escort, just carry a purple flag.

Yours faithfully,
Priceless! Half the people on here are morons, I'm all for people having a view, even if I don't agree with it, but some of you genuinely think you are living in the East end of Glasgow or south central Chicago. No wonder you read the online Echo, you are so scared to go to the shop to get a hard copy in case the evil gangs of immigrants get you!

Southend has a below average crime rate for a UK town its size in 2013! Why can't people grasp that fact?

"drug dealers, prostitution, theft, assaults, muggings, and drunks and druggies everywhere when the pubs and clubs close" Your deluded, absolutely mad !

To the paranoid users of this site, please ask yourself a question " When was the last time someone you personally know was murdered in Southend ? Shot at in Southend ? Kidnapped in Southend? Of when was the last time you personally were assaulted, mugged or had drugs offered to you (unless you asked form them...) in Southend ?

If people genuinely can't hack the mean streets of southend-on-sea then I suggest you move, preferably to somewhere a time machine can take you..l like the 1950's...
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: Southend needs crime fighting super hero... ~purple flag man~[/p][/quote]This is the text of a letter I recently sent to the purple flag people.... Association of Town Centre Management 1 Queen Anne's Gate Westminster London SW1H 9BT Dear Sir, Purple Flag, Southend-on-Sea It’s that time of year again, when the purple flag for Southend-on-Sea is up for renewal. My suggestion to you, which would benefit both the purple flag scheme and Southend-on-Sea, is to refuse the renewal. Why do I suggest this? Well, purple flag suggests that: • More people would use centres at night if they were safer, more accessible and offered more choice o Southend is no longer safe at night. Many people are afraid of walking the streets at night. Crime is rife. You only have to read the local newspaper, the Echo, to see what is happening, drug dealers, prostitution, theft, assaults, muggings, and drunks and druggies everywhere when the pubs and clubs close. It is more like the Police Gazette than a local paper. o More accessible and more choice? Accessible if you have a car. Even better if you can afford a taxi. Not quite as good for those who rely on public transport, with many bus routes stopping in the early evening and no night bus routes at all. • A good mix of clientele can lessen intimidation and improve perceptions o But, equally, the wrong type of clientele can increase intimidation and damage peoples perceptions. • A wider range of attractions and consumers leads to longer term economic viability o The only growing businesses in this area seem to be burglary, theft, cannabis growing, and drug dealing. If that is what you are trying to encourage then you are doing a great job. If you were to refuse to renew the purple flag for Southend then there would be benefits for everyone: 1. Local and national newspapers would report it, giving the purple flag organisation some much needed publicity. 2. It would enable the police in Southend to make reasonable requests to the government for additional funding to tackle the problems. 3. The credibility of the purple flag scheme would be improved, as opposed to the current thinking of most people who have heard of purple flag, which is “You pay the fee, you get the flag”. 4. The local council might be encouraged to actually do something, as opposed to just buying a flag and pretending everything in the garden is rosy. When you send your trained Purple Flag Assessor to carry out an overnight assessment of our area could I suggest they go for a walk between midnight and 4am along the following roads: York Rd, Ambleside Dr, Riviera Dr, Southchurch Rd, Hamlet Court Rd, then go for a rest on one of the benches in Warrior Square. No need for a police escort, just carry a purple flag. Yours faithfully,[/p][/quote]Priceless! Half the people on here are morons, I'm all for people having a view, even if I don't agree with it, but some of you genuinely think you are living in the East end of Glasgow or south central Chicago. No wonder you read the online Echo, you are so scared to go to the shop to get a hard copy in case the evil gangs of immigrants get you! Southend has a below average crime rate for a UK town its size in 2013! Why can't people grasp that fact? "drug dealers, prostitution, theft, assaults, muggings, and drunks and druggies everywhere when the pubs and clubs close" Your deluded, absolutely mad ! To the paranoid users of this site, please ask yourself a question " When was the last time someone you personally know was murdered in Southend ? Shot at in Southend ? Kidnapped in Southend? Of when was the last time you personally were assaulted, mugged or had drugs offered to you (unless you asked form them...) in Southend ? If people genuinely can't hack the mean streets of southend-on-sea then I suggest you move, preferably to somewhere a time machine can take you..l like the 1950's... supermadmax
  • Score: -4

5:38pm Mon 6 May 13

fletch12107 says...

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
fletch12107 wrote:
There's a formula why all this grief takes place around the High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road and its D=Drugs x B=Black.
'High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road'

I think you'll find that the offence occurred in none of the above.
I think you will find that I said "around them areas". The stabbing according to The Echo took place in Warrior Square which is near Southchurch Road/High Street and the victim finished up in York Road. So I think my comment is correct.
[quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: There's a formula why all this grief takes place around the High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road and its D=Drugs x B=Black.[/p][/quote]'High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road' I think you'll find that the offence occurred in none of the above.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that I said "around them areas". The stabbing according to The Echo took place in Warrior Square which is near Southchurch Road/High Street and the victim finished up in York Road. So I think my comment is correct. fletch12107
  • Score: 1

6:03pm Mon 6 May 13

Soouthchurch59 says...

fletch12107 wrote:
Soouthchurch59 wrote:
fletch12107 wrote:
There's a formula why all this grief takes place around the High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road and its D=Drugs x B=Black.
'High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road'

I think you'll find that the offence occurred in none of the above.
I think you will find that I said "around them areas". The stabbing according to The Echo took place in Warrior Square which is near Southchurch Road/High Street and the victim finished up in York Road. So I think my comment is correct.
I'll give you that one (should of gone to Specs Savers!) but how about the fact that there are more white drug dealers in SOS than there are black.
[quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: There's a formula why all this grief takes place around the High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road and its D=Drugs x B=Black.[/p][/quote]'High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road' I think you'll find that the offence occurred in none of the above.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that I said "around them areas". The stabbing according to The Echo took place in Warrior Square which is near Southchurch Road/High Street and the victim finished up in York Road. So I think my comment is correct.[/p][/quote]I'll give you that one (should of gone to Specs Savers!) but how about the fact that there are more white drug dealers in SOS than there are black. Soouthchurch59
  • Score: 0

7:01pm Mon 6 May 13

marybelle says...

And then there was light !

Southend on Sea City (town) of Culture, the way, the light.

Have you found it yet, or are looking?

Any finders please contact Eric.
And then there was light ! Southend on Sea City (town) of Culture, the way, the light. Have you found it yet, or are looking? Any finders please contact Eric. marybelle
  • Score: -1

8:44pm Mon 6 May 13

jayman says...

supermadmax wrote:
Nebs wrote:
jayman wrote:
Southend needs crime fighting super hero...

~purple flag man~
This is the text of a letter I recently sent to the purple flag people....

Association of Town Centre Management
1 Queen Anne's Gate
Westminster
London SW1H 9BT


Dear Sir,

Purple Flag, Southend-on-Sea

It’s that time of year again, when the purple flag for Southend-on-Sea is up for renewal. My suggestion to you, which would benefit both the purple flag scheme and Southend-on-Sea, is to refuse the renewal. Why do I suggest this? Well, purple flag suggests that:
• More people would use centres at night if they were safer, more accessible and offered more choice
o Southend is no longer safe at night. Many people are afraid of walking the streets at night. Crime is rife. You only have to read the local newspaper, the Echo, to see what is happening, drug dealers, prostitution, theft, assaults, muggings, and drunks and druggies everywhere when the pubs and clubs close. It is more like the Police Gazette than a local paper.
o More accessible and more choice? Accessible if you have a car. Even better if you can afford a taxi. Not quite as good for those who rely on public transport, with many bus routes stopping in the early evening and no night bus routes at all.
• A good mix of clientele can lessen intimidation and improve perceptions
o But, equally, the wrong type of clientele can increase intimidation and damage peoples perceptions.
• A wider range of attractions and consumers leads to longer term economic viability
o The only growing businesses in this area seem to be burglary, theft, cannabis growing, and drug dealing. If that is what you are trying to encourage then you are doing a great job.

If you were to refuse to renew the purple flag for Southend then there would be benefits for everyone:
1. Local and national newspapers would report it, giving the purple flag organisation some much needed publicity.
2. It would enable the police in Southend to make reasonable requests to the government for additional funding to tackle the problems.
3. The credibility of the purple flag scheme would be improved, as opposed to the current thinking of most people who have heard of purple flag, which is “You pay the fee, you get the flag”.
4. The local council might be encouraged to actually do something, as opposed to just buying a flag and pretending everything in the garden is rosy.

When you send your trained Purple Flag Assessor to carry out an overnight assessment of our area could I suggest they go for a walk between midnight and 4am along the following roads: York Rd, Ambleside Dr, Riviera Dr, Southchurch Rd, Hamlet Court Rd, then go for a rest on one of the benches in Warrior Square. No need for a police escort, just carry a purple flag.

Yours faithfully,
Priceless! Half the people on here are morons, I'm all for people having a view, even if I don't agree with it, but some of you genuinely think you are living in the East end of Glasgow or south central Chicago. No wonder you read the online Echo, you are so scared to go to the shop to get a hard copy in case the evil gangs of immigrants get you!

Southend has a below average crime rate for a UK town its size in 2013! Why can't people grasp that fact?

"drug dealers, prostitution, theft, assaults, muggings, and drunks and druggies everywhere when the pubs and clubs close" Your deluded, absolutely mad !

To the paranoid users of this site, please ask yourself a question " When was the last time someone you personally know was murdered in Southend ? Shot at in Southend ? Kidnapped in Southend? Of when was the last time you personally were assaulted, mugged or had drugs offered to you (unless you asked form them...) in Southend ?

If people genuinely can't hack the mean streets of southend-on-sea then I suggest you move, preferably to somewhere a time machine can take you..l like the 1950's...
Southends crime figures are cooked at a temperature hotter then the iron at the Earths core!
[quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: Southend needs crime fighting super hero... ~purple flag man~[/p][/quote]This is the text of a letter I recently sent to the purple flag people.... Association of Town Centre Management 1 Queen Anne's Gate Westminster London SW1H 9BT Dear Sir, Purple Flag, Southend-on-Sea It’s that time of year again, when the purple flag for Southend-on-Sea is up for renewal. My suggestion to you, which would benefit both the purple flag scheme and Southend-on-Sea, is to refuse the renewal. Why do I suggest this? Well, purple flag suggests that: • More people would use centres at night if they were safer, more accessible and offered more choice o Southend is no longer safe at night. Many people are afraid of walking the streets at night. Crime is rife. You only have to read the local newspaper, the Echo, to see what is happening, drug dealers, prostitution, theft, assaults, muggings, and drunks and druggies everywhere when the pubs and clubs close. It is more like the Police Gazette than a local paper. o More accessible and more choice? Accessible if you have a car. Even better if you can afford a taxi. Not quite as good for those who rely on public transport, with many bus routes stopping in the early evening and no night bus routes at all. • A good mix of clientele can lessen intimidation and improve perceptions o But, equally, the wrong type of clientele can increase intimidation and damage peoples perceptions. • A wider range of attractions and consumers leads to longer term economic viability o The only growing businesses in this area seem to be burglary, theft, cannabis growing, and drug dealing. If that is what you are trying to encourage then you are doing a great job. If you were to refuse to renew the purple flag for Southend then there would be benefits for everyone: 1. Local and national newspapers would report it, giving the purple flag organisation some much needed publicity. 2. It would enable the police in Southend to make reasonable requests to the government for additional funding to tackle the problems. 3. The credibility of the purple flag scheme would be improved, as opposed to the current thinking of most people who have heard of purple flag, which is “You pay the fee, you get the flag”. 4. The local council might be encouraged to actually do something, as opposed to just buying a flag and pretending everything in the garden is rosy. When you send your trained Purple Flag Assessor to carry out an overnight assessment of our area could I suggest they go for a walk between midnight and 4am along the following roads: York Rd, Ambleside Dr, Riviera Dr, Southchurch Rd, Hamlet Court Rd, then go for a rest on one of the benches in Warrior Square. No need for a police escort, just carry a purple flag. Yours faithfully,[/p][/quote]Priceless! Half the people on here are morons, I'm all for people having a view, even if I don't agree with it, but some of you genuinely think you are living in the East end of Glasgow or south central Chicago. No wonder you read the online Echo, you are so scared to go to the shop to get a hard copy in case the evil gangs of immigrants get you! Southend has a below average crime rate for a UK town its size in 2013! Why can't people grasp that fact? "drug dealers, prostitution, theft, assaults, muggings, and drunks and druggies everywhere when the pubs and clubs close" Your deluded, absolutely mad ! To the paranoid users of this site, please ask yourself a question " When was the last time someone you personally know was murdered in Southend ? Shot at in Southend ? Kidnapped in Southend? Of when was the last time you personally were assaulted, mugged or had drugs offered to you (unless you asked form them...) in Southend ? If people genuinely can't hack the mean streets of southend-on-sea then I suggest you move, preferably to somewhere a time machine can take you..l like the 1950's...[/p][/quote]Southends crime figures are cooked at a temperature hotter then the iron at the Earths core! jayman
  • Score: 1

8:48pm Mon 6 May 13

jayman says...

http://www.ukcrimest
ats.com/Neighbourhoo
d/Essex_Police/South
end_Central

hmm.

'other' is a term of reference used for 'cooked' as is 'anti-social'
http://www.ukcrimest ats.com/Neighbourhoo d/Essex_Police/South end_Central hmm. 'other' is a term of reference used for 'cooked' as is 'anti-social' jayman
  • Score: 0

9:18pm Mon 6 May 13

mys842 says...

Someone gets stabbed in Leigh by someone out of the area. how on Earth did this happen to Leigh, evil outsiders etc.

Same happened in Southend and it should lose its purple flag, city of culture bid, worst place in the world blah blah.

Get some perspective people, anyone see how many people visited Southend (and Leigh) today? Given thenumber of tourists I'd say Southend does pretty well!
Someone gets stabbed in Leigh by someone out of the area. how on Earth did this happen to Leigh, evil outsiders etc. Same happened in Southend and it should lose its purple flag, city of culture bid, worst place in the world blah blah. Get some perspective people, anyone see how many people visited Southend (and Leigh) today? Given thenumber of tourists I'd say Southend does pretty well! mys842
  • Score: 8

9:18pm Mon 6 May 13

Alice in Her Own Land :P says...

supermadmax wrote:
"He is currently refusing to tell police what happened."

I have not problem with this, the lads clearly have a grievance & wish to keep things to themselves. As long as they are no hurting anyone innocent I fail to see why the police should divert anymore time to this.

To be fair, I doubt this incident is a dramatic as the headline suggests.

"treatments for a minor stab wound" sums it up, it was most likely a little scrap that got out of hand.
Probably because he can't speak English!
[quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: "He is currently refusing to tell police what happened." I have not problem with this, the lads clearly have a grievance & wish to keep things to themselves. As long as they are no hurting anyone innocent I fail to see why the police should divert anymore time to this. To be fair, I doubt this incident is a dramatic as the headline suggests. "treatments for a minor stab wound" sums it up, it was most likely a little scrap that got out of hand.[/p][/quote]Probably because he can't speak English! Alice in Her Own Land :P
  • Score: 1

9:19pm Mon 6 May 13

asbo in a coma says...

york road....quelle surprise. drug dealers stabbing drug dealers. i'll pay for the knives to be sharpened
york road....quelle surprise. drug dealers stabbing drug dealers. i'll pay for the knives to be sharpened asbo in a coma
  • Score: 0

10:24pm Mon 6 May 13

CaptainBlackadder says...

The other week York Road was sealed off when I went past as police seemed to be dealing with some ethnic gentlemen who had caused some trouble at one of the properties - perhaps this was a continuation of hostilities.
Also,calm down jayman and nebs - some people in nasty violent bloodstained Southend have been known to live well into their teens!
The other week York Road was sealed off when I went past as police seemed to be dealing with some ethnic gentlemen who had caused some trouble at one of the properties - perhaps this was a continuation of hostilities. Also,calm down jayman and nebs - some people in nasty violent bloodstained Southend have been known to live well into their teens! CaptainBlackadder
  • Score: 1

10:39pm Mon 6 May 13

chef-guss says...

there is a line of crime that is related to London that comes down here, I don't know why the police cant see it? only a few weeks ago I was down a bar in central southend when some one was being attacked when I was out side of a bar and the bouncer of that bar went down to help with me following, then after the ring leader of that group of 16 to 18 year olds (10 of them) threated to mug me off, im not one to shy off and looked him strait in the eyes. his mates got the messages and took him away towards southend central train station. at the end of the day this can and has be a nice town, I came bake from Liverpool after three years and before I went it was a nice area now its a **** whole full of drugs and im not going to let anyone intimidate me and turn this town in to more of **** hole. lets start fixing it.
there is a line of crime that is related to London that comes down here, I don't know why the police cant see it? only a few weeks ago I was down a bar in central southend when some one was being attacked when I was out side of a bar and the bouncer of that bar went down to help with me following, then after the ring leader of that group of 16 to 18 year olds (10 of them) threated to mug me off, im not one to shy off and looked him strait in the eyes. his mates got the messages and took him away towards southend central train station. at the end of the day this can and has be a nice town, I came bake from Liverpool after three years and before I went it was a nice area now its a **** whole full of drugs and im not going to let anyone intimidate me and turn this town in to more of **** hole. lets start fixing it. chef-guss
  • Score: 3

10:43pm Mon 6 May 13

Nebs says...

chef-guss wrote:
there is a line of crime that is related to London that comes down here, I don't know why the police cant see it? only a few weeks ago I was down a bar in central southend when some one was being attacked when I was out side of a bar and the bouncer of that bar went down to help with me following, then after the ring leader of that group of 16 to 18 year olds (10 of them) threated to mug me off, im not one to shy off and looked him strait in the eyes. his mates got the messages and took him away towards southend central train station. at the end of the day this can and has be a nice town, I came bake from Liverpool after three years and before I went it was a nice area now its a **** whole full of drugs and im not going to let anyone intimidate me and turn this town in to more of **** hole. lets start fixing it.
Liverpool has got a purple flag too.
[quote][p][bold]chef-guss[/bold] wrote: there is a line of crime that is related to London that comes down here, I don't know why the police cant see it? only a few weeks ago I was down a bar in central southend when some one was being attacked when I was out side of a bar and the bouncer of that bar went down to help with me following, then after the ring leader of that group of 16 to 18 year olds (10 of them) threated to mug me off, im not one to shy off and looked him strait in the eyes. his mates got the messages and took him away towards southend central train station. at the end of the day this can and has be a nice town, I came bake from Liverpool after three years and before I went it was a nice area now its a **** whole full of drugs and im not going to let anyone intimidate me and turn this town in to more of **** hole. lets start fixing it.[/p][/quote]Liverpool has got a purple flag too. Nebs
  • Score: 2

11:10pm Mon 6 May 13

jayman says...

CaptainBlackadder wrote:
The other week York Road was sealed off when I went past as police seemed to be dealing with some ethnic gentlemen who had caused some trouble at one of the properties - perhaps this was a continuation of hostilities.
Also,calm down jayman and nebs - some people in nasty violent bloodstained Southend have been known to live well into their teens!
"some people in nasty violent bloodstained Southend have been known to live well into their teens!"

They are the ones who crawl out, they go to other towns and speak of the grizzly truth to crowds that retract in horror at the survivors stories, they go on from speaking about how long the Tories have been in power in Southend to talk about the crime and social decay of the borough. They then lose their audiences interest .. lol
[quote][p][bold]CaptainBlackadder[/bold] wrote: The other week York Road was sealed off when I went past as police seemed to be dealing with some ethnic gentlemen who had caused some trouble at one of the properties - perhaps this was a continuation of hostilities. Also,calm down jayman and nebs - some people in nasty violent bloodstained Southend have been known to live well into their teens![/p][/quote]"some people in nasty violent bloodstained Southend have been known to live well into their teens!" They are the ones who crawl out, they go to other towns and speak of the grizzly truth to crowds that retract in horror at the survivors stories, they go on from speaking about how long the Tories have been in power in Southend to talk about the crime and social decay of the borough. They then lose their audiences interest .. lol jayman
  • Score: -2

1:09am Tue 7 May 13

Nebs says...

Southend.
Two men enter. One man leaves.
Southend. Two men enter. One man leaves. Nebs
  • Score: 1

7:30am Tue 7 May 13

Red Under Your Bed says...

What Southend needs is a high influx of migrants. Areas with large migrant populations show a reduction in crime.

http://www.guardian.
co.uk/uk/2013/apr/28
/immigration-impact-
crime
What Southend needs is a high influx of migrants. Areas with large migrant populations show a reduction in crime. http://www.guardian. co.uk/uk/2013/apr/28 /immigration-impact- crime Red Under Your Bed
  • Score: 1

8:09am Tue 7 May 13

pembury53 says...

OscarDeLaSpiffSpaff wrote:
The met are too ruff with them in the city, and the clubs are full of ogre women with horsehair and others with knives, they can walk around freely harrassing women in essex and the worst they face is a few students or essex police who will give them a cup of coffee and some cornflakes before letting them go
Yep, that's about the strength of it.... free train ride courtesy of C2C and an away day crime spree....... like taking candy from a baby compared to the capitals mean streets, and a good 'tasering' from the met......
[quote][p][bold]OscarDeLaSpiffSpaff[/bold] wrote: The met are too ruff with them in the city, and the clubs are full of ogre women with horsehair and others with knives, they can walk around freely harrassing women in essex and the worst they face is a few students or essex police who will give them a cup of coffee and some cornflakes before letting them go[/p][/quote]Yep, that's about the strength of it.... free train ride courtesy of C2C and an away day crime spree....... like taking candy from a baby compared to the capitals mean streets, and a good 'tasering' from the met...... pembury53
  • Score: 2

10:00am Tue 7 May 13

fletch12107 says...

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
fletch12107 wrote:
Soouthchurch59 wrote:
fletch12107 wrote:
There's a formula why all this grief takes place around the High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road and its D=Drugs x B=Black.
'High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road'

I think you'll find that the offence occurred in none of the above.
I think you will find that I said "around them areas". The stabbing according to The Echo took place in Warrior Square which is near Southchurch Road/High Street and the victim finished up in York Road. So I think my comment is correct.
I'll give you that one (should of gone to Specs Savers!) but how about the fact that there are more white drug dealers in SOS than there are black.
If you are aware of this then could you give the names of the white drug dealers to the police if not then you are part of the problem.
[quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: There's a formula why all this grief takes place around the High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road and its D=Drugs x B=Black.[/p][/quote]'High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road' I think you'll find that the offence occurred in none of the above.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that I said "around them areas". The stabbing according to The Echo took place in Warrior Square which is near Southchurch Road/High Street and the victim finished up in York Road. So I think my comment is correct.[/p][/quote]I'll give you that one (should of gone to Specs Savers!) but how about the fact that there are more white drug dealers in SOS than there are black.[/p][/quote]If you are aware of this then could you give the names of the white drug dealers to the police if not then you are part of the problem. fletch12107
  • Score: -1

11:46am Tue 7 May 13

Soouthchurch59 says...

fletch12107 wrote:
Soouthchurch59 wrote:
fletch12107 wrote:
Soouthchurch59 wrote:
fletch12107 wrote:
There's a formula why all this grief takes place around the High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road and its D=Drugs x B=Black.
'High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road'

I think you'll find that the offence occurred in none of the above.
I think you will find that I said "around them areas". The stabbing according to The Echo took place in Warrior Square which is near Southchurch Road/High Street and the victim finished up in York Road. So I think my comment is correct.
I'll give you that one (should of gone to Specs Savers!) but how about the fact that there are more white drug dealers in SOS than there are black.
If you are aware of this then could you give the names of the white drug dealers to the police if not then you are part of the problem.
' if not then you are part of the problem.'

Such ignorance and arrogance combined.

So, because I state a fact that is obvious (to most), - it automatically follows that I should know the names of the white drug dealers in the town does it? Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that it doesn't. If it did, I'm sure you would be just as able to furnish the police with the names of the 'black' dealers you imply are swamping the areas concerned.

Your so called formula ‘D=Drugs x B=Black’.... is a recipe that's not easily swallowed!
[quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: There's a formula why all this grief takes place around the High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road and its D=Drugs x B=Black.[/p][/quote]'High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road' I think you'll find that the offence occurred in none of the above.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that I said "around them areas". The stabbing according to The Echo took place in Warrior Square which is near Southchurch Road/High Street and the victim finished up in York Road. So I think my comment is correct.[/p][/quote]I'll give you that one (should of gone to Specs Savers!) but how about the fact that there are more white drug dealers in SOS than there are black.[/p][/quote]If you are aware of this then could you give the names of the white drug dealers to the police if not then you are part of the problem.[/p][/quote]' if not then you are part of the problem.' Such ignorance and arrogance combined. So, because I state a fact that is obvious (to most), - it automatically follows that I should know the names of the white drug dealers in the town does it? Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that it doesn't. If it did, I'm sure you would be just as able to furnish the police with the names of the 'black' dealers you imply are swamping the areas concerned. Your so called formula ‘D=Drugs x B=Black’.... is a recipe that's not easily swallowed! Soouthchurch59
  • Score: 1

1:37pm Tue 7 May 13

fletch12107 says...

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
fletch12107 wrote:
Soouthchurch59 wrote:
fletch12107 wrote:
Soouthchurch59 wrote:
fletch12107 wrote:
There's a formula why all this grief takes place around the High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road and its D=Drugs x B=Black.
'High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road'

I think you'll find that the offence occurred in none of the above.
I think you will find that I said "around them areas". The stabbing according to The Echo took place in Warrior Square which is near Southchurch Road/High Street and the victim finished up in York Road. So I think my comment is correct.
I'll give you that one (should of gone to Specs Savers!) but how about the fact that there are more white drug dealers in SOS than there are black.
If you are aware of this then could you give the names of the white drug dealers to the police if not then you are part of the problem.
' if not then you are part of the problem.'

Such ignorance and arrogance combined.

So, because I state a fact that is obvious (to most), - it automatically follows that I should know the names of the white drug dealers in the town does it? Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that it doesn't. If it did, I'm sure you would be just as able to furnish the police with the names of the 'black' dealers you imply are swamping the areas concerned.

Your so called formula ‘D=Drugs x B=Black’.... is a recipe that's not easily swallowed!
The facts are not obvious because you have no credible evidence and its purely a figment of your imagination that there are more white drug dealers in Southend than black. By stating that there were I assumed that you may have known them personally but clearly not as they may or may not exist. The black dealers are known to the police and I did not imply that they are "swarming the area". Anyone with a modicum of sense would read the comment correctly before replying with a load of made up quotes.
[quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: There's a formula why all this grief takes place around the High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road and its D=Drugs x B=Black.[/p][/quote]'High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road' I think you'll find that the offence occurred in none of the above.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that I said "around them areas". The stabbing according to The Echo took place in Warrior Square which is near Southchurch Road/High Street and the victim finished up in York Road. So I think my comment is correct.[/p][/quote]I'll give you that one (should of gone to Specs Savers!) but how about the fact that there are more white drug dealers in SOS than there are black.[/p][/quote]If you are aware of this then could you give the names of the white drug dealers to the police if not then you are part of the problem.[/p][/quote]' if not then you are part of the problem.' Such ignorance and arrogance combined. So, because I state a fact that is obvious (to most), - it automatically follows that I should know the names of the white drug dealers in the town does it? Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that it doesn't. If it did, I'm sure you would be just as able to furnish the police with the names of the 'black' dealers you imply are swamping the areas concerned. Your so called formula ‘D=Drugs x B=Black’.... is a recipe that's not easily swallowed![/p][/quote]The facts are not obvious because you have no credible evidence and its purely a figment of your imagination that there are more white drug dealers in Southend than black. By stating that there were I assumed that you may have known them personally but clearly not as they may or may not exist. The black dealers are known to the police and I did not imply that they are "swarming the area". Anyone with a modicum of sense would read the comment correctly before replying with a load of made up quotes. fletch12107
  • Score: 0

2:39pm Tue 7 May 13

Soouthchurch59 says...

fletch12107 wrote:
Soouthchurch59 wrote:
fletch12107 wrote:
Soouthchurch59 wrote:
fletch12107 wrote:
Soouthchurch59 wrote:
fletch12107 wrote:
There's a formula why all this grief takes place around the High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road and its D=Drugs x B=Black.
'High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road'

I think you'll find that the offence occurred in none of the above.
I think you will find that I said "around them areas". The stabbing according to The Echo took place in Warrior Square which is near Southchurch Road/High Street and the victim finished up in York Road. So I think my comment is correct.
I'll give you that one (should of gone to Specs Savers!) but how about the fact that there are more white drug dealers in SOS than there are black.
If you are aware of this then could you give the names of the white drug dealers to the police if not then you are part of the problem.
' if not then you are part of the problem.'

Such ignorance and arrogance combined.

So, because I state a fact that is obvious (to most), - it automatically follows that I should know the names of the white drug dealers in the town does it? Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that it doesn't. If it did, I'm sure you would be just as able to furnish the police with the names of the 'black' dealers you imply are swamping the areas concerned.

Your so called formula ‘D=Drugs x B=Black’.... is a recipe that's not easily swallowed!
The facts are not obvious because you have no credible evidence and its purely a figment of your imagination that there are more white drug dealers in Southend than black. By stating that there were I assumed that you may have known them personally but clearly not as they may or may not exist. The black dealers are known to the police and I did not imply that they are "swarming the area". Anyone with a modicum of sense would read the comment correctly before replying with a load of made up quotes.
I did say: 'a fact that is obvious (to most)', most, being the operative word....

Who I know, is no business of yours. What I know, is much the same.

"before replying with a load of made up quotes"

I'm left wondering which 'load of made up quotes' you refer to.... You do understand the word imply, don't you?

D=Drugs x B=Black = Get back in your bigoted box!
[quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: There's a formula why all this grief takes place around the High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road and its D=Drugs x B=Black.[/p][/quote]'High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road' I think you'll find that the offence occurred in none of the above.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that I said "around them areas". The stabbing according to The Echo took place in Warrior Square which is near Southchurch Road/High Street and the victim finished up in York Road. So I think my comment is correct.[/p][/quote]I'll give you that one (should of gone to Specs Savers!) but how about the fact that there are more white drug dealers in SOS than there are black.[/p][/quote]If you are aware of this then could you give the names of the white drug dealers to the police if not then you are part of the problem.[/p][/quote]' if not then you are part of the problem.' Such ignorance and arrogance combined. So, because I state a fact that is obvious (to most), - it automatically follows that I should know the names of the white drug dealers in the town does it? Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that it doesn't. If it did, I'm sure you would be just as able to furnish the police with the names of the 'black' dealers you imply are swamping the areas concerned. Your so called formula ‘D=Drugs x B=Black’.... is a recipe that's not easily swallowed![/p][/quote]The facts are not obvious because you have no credible evidence and its purely a figment of your imagination that there are more white drug dealers in Southend than black. By stating that there were I assumed that you may have known them personally but clearly not as they may or may not exist. The black dealers are known to the police and I did not imply that they are "swarming the area". Anyone with a modicum of sense would read the comment correctly before replying with a load of made up quotes.[/p][/quote]I did say: 'a fact that is obvious (to most)', most, being the operative word.... Who I know, is no business of yours. What I know, is much the same. "before replying with a load of made up quotes" I'm left wondering which 'load of made up quotes' you refer to.... You do understand the word imply, don't you? D=Drugs x B=Black = Get back in your bigoted box! Soouthchurch59
  • Score: -1

2:54pm Tue 7 May 13

Soouthchurch59 says...

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
fletch12107 wrote:
Soouthchurch59 wrote:
fletch12107 wrote:
Soouthchurch59 wrote:
fletch12107 wrote:
Soouthchurch59 wrote:
fletch12107 wrote:
There's a formula why all this grief takes place around the High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road and its D=Drugs x B=Black.
'High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road'

I think you'll find that the offence occurred in none of the above.
I think you will find that I said "around them areas". The stabbing according to The Echo took place in Warrior Square which is near Southchurch Road/High Street and the victim finished up in York Road. So I think my comment is correct.
I'll give you that one (should of gone to Specs Savers!) but how about the fact that there are more white drug dealers in SOS than there are black.
If you are aware of this then could you give the names of the white drug dealers to the police if not then you are part of the problem.
' if not then you are part of the problem.'

Such ignorance and arrogance combined.

So, because I state a fact that is obvious (to most), - it automatically follows that I should know the names of the white drug dealers in the town does it? Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that it doesn't. If it did, I'm sure you would be just as able to furnish the police with the names of the 'black' dealers you imply are swamping the areas concerned.

Your so called formula ‘D=Drugs x B=Black’.... is a recipe that's not easily swallowed!
The facts are not obvious because you have no credible evidence and its purely a figment of your imagination that there are more white drug dealers in Southend than black. By stating that there were I assumed that you may have known them personally but clearly not as they may or may not exist. The black dealers are known to the police and I did not imply that they are "swarming the area". Anyone with a modicum of sense would read the comment correctly before replying with a load of made up quotes.
I did say: 'a fact that is obvious (to most)', most, being the operative word....

Who I know, is no business of yours. What I know, is much the same.

"before replying with a load of made up quotes"

I'm left wondering which 'load of made up quotes' you refer to.... You do understand the word imply, don't you?

D=Drugs x B=Black = Get back in your bigoted box!
BTW, My assertion that there are more white than black drug dealers, remains the same based on many factors - non of them imaginary.
[quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: There's a formula why all this grief takes place around the High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road and its D=Drugs x B=Black.[/p][/quote]'High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road' I think you'll find that the offence occurred in none of the above.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that I said "around them areas". The stabbing according to The Echo took place in Warrior Square which is near Southchurch Road/High Street and the victim finished up in York Road. So I think my comment is correct.[/p][/quote]I'll give you that one (should of gone to Specs Savers!) but how about the fact that there are more white drug dealers in SOS than there are black.[/p][/quote]If you are aware of this then could you give the names of the white drug dealers to the police if not then you are part of the problem.[/p][/quote]' if not then you are part of the problem.' Such ignorance and arrogance combined. So, because I state a fact that is obvious (to most), - it automatically follows that I should know the names of the white drug dealers in the town does it? Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that it doesn't. If it did, I'm sure you would be just as able to furnish the police with the names of the 'black' dealers you imply are swamping the areas concerned. Your so called formula ‘D=Drugs x B=Black’.... is a recipe that's not easily swallowed![/p][/quote]The facts are not obvious because you have no credible evidence and its purely a figment of your imagination that there are more white drug dealers in Southend than black. By stating that there were I assumed that you may have known them personally but clearly not as they may or may not exist. The black dealers are known to the police and I did not imply that they are "swarming the area". Anyone with a modicum of sense would read the comment correctly before replying with a load of made up quotes.[/p][/quote]I did say: 'a fact that is obvious (to most)', most, being the operative word.... Who I know, is no business of yours. What I know, is much the same. "before replying with a load of made up quotes" I'm left wondering which 'load of made up quotes' you refer to.... You do understand the word imply, don't you? D=Drugs x B=Black = Get back in your bigoted box![/p][/quote]BTW, My assertion that there are more white than black drug dealers, remains the same based on many factors - non of them imaginary. Soouthchurch59
  • Score: -3

3:52pm Tue 7 May 13

Invigilator says...

I suspect this was the straightener after the shooting in March in York Road between two London men. I gather that even if police were called instantly, with budget cuts leaving Essex with only two ARVs on duty, a suspect could shoot his own body weight in bullets before even the new beamers could be floored from Boreham, unless there happens to be Fri/Sat night when there would be a siege van waiting for domestics.
I suspect this was the straightener after the shooting in March in York Road between two London men. I gather that even if police were called instantly, with budget cuts leaving Essex with only two ARVs on duty, a suspect could shoot his own body weight in bullets before even the new beamers could be floored from Boreham, unless there happens to be Fri/Sat night when there would be a siege van waiting for domestics. Invigilator
  • Score: 0

5:30pm Tue 7 May 13

Red Under Your Bed says...

When are white people going to confront the problem of widespread sex abuse within the white community?
When are white people going to confront the problem of widespread sex abuse within the white community? Red Under Your Bed
  • Score: -2

6:52pm Tue 7 May 13

fletch12107 says...

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
Soouthchurch59 wrote:
fletch12107 wrote:
Soouthchurch59 wrote:
fletch12107 wrote:
Soouthchurch59 wrote:
fletch12107 wrote:
Soouthchurch59 wrote:
fletch12107 wrote:
There's a formula why all this grief takes place around the High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road and its D=Drugs x B=Black.
'High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road'

I think you'll find that the offence occurred in none of the above.
I think you will find that I said "around them areas". The stabbing according to The Echo took place in Warrior Square which is near Southchurch Road/High Street and the victim finished up in York Road. So I think my comment is correct.
I'll give you that one (should of gone to Specs Savers!) but how about the fact that there are more white drug dealers in SOS than there are black.
If you are aware of this then could you give the names of the white drug dealers to the police if not then you are part of the problem.
' if not then you are part of the problem.'

Such ignorance and arrogance combined.

So, because I state a fact that is obvious (to most), - it automatically follows that I should know the names of the white drug dealers in the town does it? Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that it doesn't. If it did, I'm sure you would be just as able to furnish the police with the names of the 'black' dealers you imply are swamping the areas concerned.

Your so called formula ‘D=Drugs x B=Black’.... is a recipe that's not easily swallowed!
The facts are not obvious because you have no credible evidence and its purely a figment of your imagination that there are more white drug dealers in Southend than black. By stating that there were I assumed that you may have known them personally but clearly not as they may or may not exist. The black dealers are known to the police and I did not imply that they are "swarming the area". Anyone with a modicum of sense would read the comment correctly before replying with a load of made up quotes.
I did say: 'a fact that is obvious (to most)', most, being the operative word....

Who I know, is no business of yours. What I know, is much the same.

"before replying with a load of made up quotes"

I'm left wondering which 'load of made up quotes' you refer to.... You do understand the word imply, don't you?

D=Drugs x B=Black = Get back in your bigoted box!
BTW, My assertion that there are more white than black drug dealers, remains the same based on many factors - non of them imaginary.
Oh well I guess that makes you right and me wrong then. You win. Shall we play a game of F**k Off now....You go first.
[quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fletch12107[/bold] wrote: There's a formula why all this grief takes place around the High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road and its D=Drugs x B=Black.[/p][/quote]'High Street/York Road/ Southchurch Road' I think you'll find that the offence occurred in none of the above.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that I said "around them areas". The stabbing according to The Echo took place in Warrior Square which is near Southchurch Road/High Street and the victim finished up in York Road. So I think my comment is correct.[/p][/quote]I'll give you that one (should of gone to Specs Savers!) but how about the fact that there are more white drug dealers in SOS than there are black.[/p][/quote]If you are aware of this then could you give the names of the white drug dealers to the police if not then you are part of the problem.[/p][/quote]' if not then you are part of the problem.' Such ignorance and arrogance combined. So, because I state a fact that is obvious (to most), - it automatically follows that I should know the names of the white drug dealers in the town does it? Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that it doesn't. If it did, I'm sure you would be just as able to furnish the police with the names of the 'black' dealers you imply are swamping the areas concerned. Your so called formula ‘D=Drugs x B=Black’.... is a recipe that's not easily swallowed![/p][/quote]The facts are not obvious because you have no credible evidence and its purely a figment of your imagination that there are more white drug dealers in Southend than black. By stating that there were I assumed that you may have known them personally but clearly not as they may or may not exist. The black dealers are known to the police and I did not imply that they are "swarming the area". Anyone with a modicum of sense would read the comment correctly before replying with a load of made up quotes.[/p][/quote]I did say: 'a fact that is obvious (to most)', most, being the operative word.... Who I know, is no business of yours. What I know, is much the same. "before replying with a load of made up quotes" I'm left wondering which 'load of made up quotes' you refer to.... You do understand the word imply, don't you? D=Drugs x B=Black = Get back in your bigoted box![/p][/quote]BTW, My assertion that there are more white than black drug dealers, remains the same based on many factors - non of them imaginary.[/p][/quote]Oh well I guess that makes you right and me wrong then. You win. Shall we play a game of F**k Off now....You go first. fletch12107
  • Score: 1

7:06pm Tue 7 May 13

Soouthchurch59 says...

The trouble with people (like yourself) who think they know everything is that it are a great annoyance to those of us wh o do.
The trouble with people (like yourself) who think they know everything is that it are a great annoyance to those of us wh o do. Soouthchurch59
  • Score: 0

7:47pm Tue 7 May 13

CaptainBlackadder says...

Red Under Your Bed wrote:
When are white people going to confront the problem of widespread sex abuse within the white community?
When are you going to confront your problem with posting inappropriate comments?
[quote][p][bold]Red Under Your Bed[/bold] wrote: When are white people going to confront the problem of widespread sex abuse within the white community?[/p][/quote]When are you going to confront your problem with posting inappropriate comments? CaptainBlackadder
  • Score: 0

9:07pm Tue 7 May 13

tophatdt says...

During one of my rare short visits back to Southend last month, I enjoyed a nice lunch at the Pipe of Port, walked the High Street in the sun, etc. and I did not see any muggings or incidents during those three hours. However, and call me paranoid if you want, I only saw two English looking people buying ice cream at the top of the precinct. Most others "appeared" to be "foreigners" including the students. I felt like I was back in the markets of Turkey, Tunisia and Romania. Next adventure will be to explore "Africa" in Hamlet Court Road...if I can find a decent restaurant.
During one of my rare short visits back to Southend last month, I enjoyed a nice lunch at the Pipe of Port, walked the High Street in the sun, etc. and I did not see any muggings or incidents during those three hours. However, and call me paranoid if you want, I only saw two English looking people buying ice cream at the top of the precinct. Most others "appeared" to be "foreigners" including the students. I felt like I was back in the markets of Turkey, Tunisia and Romania. Next adventure will be to explore "Africa" in Hamlet Court Road...if I can find a decent restaurant. tophatdt
  • Score: 1

9:42am Wed 8 May 13

Shoebury_Cyclist says...

tophatdt wrote:
During one of my rare short visits back to Southend last month, I enjoyed a nice lunch at the Pipe of Port, walked the High Street in the sun, etc. and I did not see any muggings or incidents during those three hours. However, and call me paranoid if you want, I only saw two English looking people buying ice cream at the top of the precinct. Most others "appeared" to be "foreigners" including the students. I felt like I was back in the markets of Turkey, Tunisia and Romania. Next adventure will be to explore "Africa" in Hamlet Court Road...if I can find a decent restaurant.
Interesting comment. What do 'foreigners' look like?
[quote][p][bold]tophatdt[/bold] wrote: During one of my rare short visits back to Southend last month, I enjoyed a nice lunch at the Pipe of Port, walked the High Street in the sun, etc. and I did not see any muggings or incidents during those three hours. However, and call me paranoid if you want, I only saw two English looking people buying ice cream at the top of the precinct. Most others "appeared" to be "foreigners" including the students. I felt like I was back in the markets of Turkey, Tunisia and Romania. Next adventure will be to explore "Africa" in Hamlet Court Road...if I can find a decent restaurant.[/p][/quote]Interesting comment. What do 'foreigners' look like? Shoebury_Cyclist
  • Score: -1

10:45am Wed 8 May 13

Soouthchurch59 says...

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
tophatdt wrote:
During one of my rare short visits back to Southend last month, I enjoyed a nice lunch at the Pipe of Port, walked the High Street in the sun, etc. and I did not see any muggings or incidents during those three hours. However, and call me paranoid if you want, I only saw two English looking people buying ice cream at the top of the precinct. Most others "appeared" to be "foreigners" including the students. I felt like I was back in the markets of Turkey, Tunisia and Romania. Next adventure will be to explore "Africa" in Hamlet Court Road...if I can find a decent restaurant.
Interesting comment. What do 'foreigners' look like?
Perhaps he mistook a glimpse of his own distorted reflection/perceptio
n in a shop window for one of them nasty foreign-type-people.
[quote][p][bold]Shoebury_Cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tophatdt[/bold] wrote: During one of my rare short visits back to Southend last month, I enjoyed a nice lunch at the Pipe of Port, walked the High Street in the sun, etc. and I did not see any muggings or incidents during those three hours. However, and call me paranoid if you want, I only saw two English looking people buying ice cream at the top of the precinct. Most others "appeared" to be "foreigners" including the students. I felt like I was back in the markets of Turkey, Tunisia and Romania. Next adventure will be to explore "Africa" in Hamlet Court Road...if I can find a decent restaurant.[/p][/quote]Interesting comment. What do 'foreigners' look like?[/p][/quote]Perhaps he mistook a glimpse of his own distorted reflection/perceptio n in a shop window for one of them nasty foreign-type-people. Soouthchurch59
  • Score: 0

10:44am Sun 12 May 13

rbpoplar says...

Hate to say but it looks like a ghettoisation process is underway. Look at Penge!!

It can be opposed, though. The outcome is not inevitable.

The allocation of Public Housing is usually the critical factor.
Hate to say but it looks like a ghettoisation process is underway. Look at Penge!! It can be opposed, though. The outcome is not inevitable. The allocation of Public Housing is usually the critical factor. rbpoplar
  • Score: 0

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