Jim you are correct.

BUT what annoys me is when I read a news paper report that a lady followed her stolen horse box being driver by two thugs from Reigate Surrey where it was stolen to YES you have guessed it Hovefields 'Badlands' outlaws estate, a friend with the lady was continually passing information to Police on route making it easy to detect and stop travelling right thro the tunnel etc and the POLICE failed to act and when the two GYPO scum turned onto the Gypo site she was quite rightly to affraid to follow and was then told by Essex Police controller to go in find the trailer then phone the Police!!!

I am afraid Essex Police should be sued for failing to protect the lady or investigate promptly.

The route must have been 1 hour what a totally appalling disgrace.

It was probably a poorly paid badly trained civilian yet again letting the front line down

Baker must do more than tell a good story he must actually do it!!

Shame on you Essex Police!!!

Evil C you have used an incident to voice your disgust at Essex Police whereby not only have used a newspaper article to voice an opinion but also you only have one side of a story.
The police officers that were available that day may have been dealing with a more urgent incident than a stolen horsebox.
Whilst it appears that the lady concerned feels let down by Essex Police assuming that her horsebox was correctly insured then she will not be out of pocket nor was she harmed in anyway.
I can imagine your anger if every street corner had two police officers just standing there doing very little but your subscription to public funds trebled or quadrupled to fund them.
The system is not perfect but I know for a fact that the majority of police officers bust a gut to protect the law abiding in Southend and nick the lawbreakers.
Maybe you should stop critising the police and advising people to sue the police(although in case I am not sure what the woman would sue for) and start seeing the good they do.

I think that people find it too easy to criticise the police when actually the police themselves are extremely frustrated that they cannot deal with every call as they wish.
Essex is actually leading the way in that Every report of crime (no matter how small) is followed up by an officer visiting the victim and carrying out the investigation.
I don't think people realise how much serious crime happens daily in our county which takes up the time thus preventing calls such as 'stolen horseboxes' being attended immediately! I deal with the police regularly through work and i can see their frustration at how much paperwork and time goes in to an arrest (even straight forward shoplifting cases) which can sometimes keep officers off the road fo 5 hours.
Perhaps the real issue here is that the police are stretched to the limt but are dealing with a higher number of scumbags and unnessacary crime caused by drink, drugs and boredom (thus being unable to attend to a stolen horsebox a)! I for one respect the police and there role - I only hope parents start to educate their children to respect them as they grow rather than cause mayhem!
I think in an ideal world the horsebox incident would have been attended promptly as crime is crime but we never know what other incidents are being dealt with by traffic which could again busy and unable to attend.

fletch12107 wrote:
Evil C you have used an incident to voice your disgust at Essex Police whereby not only have used a newspaper article to voice an opinion but also you only have one side of a story.
The police officers that were available that day may have been dealing with a more urgent incident than a stolen horsebox.
Whilst it appears that the lady concerned feels let down by Essex Police assuming that her horsebox was correctly insured then she will not be out of pocket nor was she harmed in anyway.
I can imagine your anger if every street corner had two police officers just standing there doing very little but your subscription to public funds trebled or quadrupled to fund them.
The system is not perfect but I know for a fact that the majority of police officers bust a gut to protect the law abiding in Southend and nick the lawbreakers.
Maybe you should stop critising the police and advising people to sue the police(although in case I am not sure what the woman would sue for) and start seeing the good they do.

Sorry you are not quite with it!Even a half wit will understand that if a continuing message is being relayed by phone over a one hour period whilst travelling behind the stolen vehicle AND it goes thro the tunnel then it is a total disgrace that three Police Force areas cannot respond quick enough when they all no doubt boast that they respond to 999 calls within 10 mins in there glossy brochures about how good they are!!

And do not be silly about the demands on Police we all know there should be more BUT when a call for police is made they should respond!

If the Police fail to act then that is a neglect of their obligatory duty i.e 'The protection of property'

failure to fulfil that obligation could and should in this case result in a claim for damages!!
If the horse box was consequently lost.

I am not crticising the Police I am saying when they take one hour plus to respond to a crime in the act of commission then they MUST be criticised otherwise they will never increase staff OR improve their training.

Have you (I doubt it) stopped to think what could have happened if the lady was not so wise and had followed the Gypo's into their lawless camp. I know what would have happened because I personally have been a victim of those Gypo scum bags!!!

And as for saying everything will be ok because she is insured is totally beyond a reasonable law abiding persons belief!!
I suppose it is ok to stand by and watch a crime being committed on your personal property and say 'Oh well let them have it it's insured'

I would not put your views on an insurance proposal form if I was you!!

Merry Christmas!!

evilc wrote:

fletch12107 wrote: Evil C you have used an incident to voice your disgust at Essex Police whereby not only have used a newspaper article to voice an opinion but also you only have one side of a story. The police officers that were available that day may have been dealing with a more urgent incident than a stolen horsebox. Whilst it appears that the lady concerned feels let down by Essex Police assuming that her horsebox was correctly insured then she will not be out of pocket nor was she harmed in anyway. I can imagine your anger if every street corner had two police officers just standing there doing very little but your subscription to public funds trebled or quadrupled to fund them. The system is not perfect but I know for a fact that the majority of police officers bust a gut to protect the law abiding in Southend and nick the lawbreakers. Maybe you should stop critising the police and advising people to sue the police(although in case I am not sure what the woman would sue for) and start seeing the good they do.

Sorry you are not quite with it!Even a half wit will understand that if a continuing message is being relayed by phone over a one hour period whilst travelling behind the stolen vehicle AND it goes thro the tunnel then it is a total disgrace that three Police Force areas cannot respond quick enough when they all no doubt boast that they respond to 999 calls within 10 mins in there glossy brochures about how good they are!! And do not be silly about the demands on Police we all know there should be more BUT when a call for police is made they should respond! If the Police fail to act then that is a neglect of their obligatory duty i.e 'The protection of property' failure to fulfil that obligation could and should in this case result in a claim for damages!! If the horse box was consequently lost. I am not crticising the Police I am saying when they take one hour plus to respond to a crime in the act of commission then they MUST be criticised otherwise they will never increase staff OR improve their training. Have you (I doubt it) stopped to think what could have happened if the lady was not so wise and had followed the Gypo's into their lawless camp. I know what would have happened because I personally have been a victim of those Gypo scum bags!!! And as for saying everything will be ok because she is insured is totally beyond a reasonable law abiding persons belief!! I suppose it is ok to stand by and watch a crime being committed on your personal property and say 'Oh well let them have it it's insured' I would not put your views on an insurance proposal form if I was you!! Merry Christmas!!

Even a quarter wit would realise if there are no officers available then you could travel round the world commentating on where the property is going and still not get an officer to attend. The horse box was not lost the owner knows where it is.