Child badly injured in traffic accident outside Shoebury school (From Echo)
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Child badly injured in traffic accident outside Shoebury school
5:50am Thursday 9th September 2010 in
A 12-year-old child is has been seriously injured in a traffic accident outside a Shoebury School.
Police closed Constable Way following the accident outside Friars Primary School at 3pm yesterday (Wednesday).
The boy, who was struck by a green Fiat Punto being driven by a 36-year-old Southend man, was airlifted to the Royal London Hospital by Hertfordshire Air Ambulance.
Comments(55)
Marshwalker
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5:03pm Wed 8 Sep 10
This was an Accident waiting to happen, so many parents driving to pick up their children. Making Constable Way a single lane for Bus's & other vehicles to trying to get by.
When will they learn that it is safer to walk with their children? It would be healther as well, giveing them selves exorsize as well as the children.
Hopeing that there is a full recovery for this child. God Bless.
Alcedema
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5:33pm Wed 8 Sep 10
Please recover quickly and fully! Your thoughts are with us all.
barbara7
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6:56pm Wed 8 Sep 10
I must also say a prayer for the driver - I.m sure as the report says it was an accident.
the man from del monte
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7:46pm Wed 8 Sep 10
thesouthchurchflyer
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8:19pm Wed 8 Sep 10
thesouthchurchflyer
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8:22pm Wed 8 Sep 10
littlelegsjen
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9:09pm Wed 8 Sep 10
ukman
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9:09pm Wed 8 Sep 10
Mrs1984
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10:02pm Wed 8 Sep 10
Sending thoughts to everyone involved, hope the young boy makes a good recovery xxx
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11:00pm Wed 8 Sep 10
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tracy1968
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11:12pm Wed 8 Sep 10
ShoeburyCyclist
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11:46pm Wed 8 Sep 10
abb`s
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12:32am Thu 9 Sep 10
xbabex999x
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12:41am Thu 9 Sep 10
He Is 13 Years old and To tell You the Truth I am devastated He was fine under 24 hours ago at the park when i was with him , i just cant believe what can happen. I'm devastated and my heart &Prayers goes out to his family and other friends.I feel like crying When i found out, we are told he has a serious head injury and to broken Legs and Arms, :'(
He was fine Yesterday, when i was with him . I just cant believe this.
From,
A Dear Friend
Russ13
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7:59am Thu 9 Sep 10
As far as the driver of the car is concerned, as others have said let's give him the benefit of the doubt as in the heat of the moment a baying crowd will all concur he was speeding even if he wasn't.
Also bear this in mind....... If you're driving a car at 30MPH and are level with the back of a standard length bus, you're foot isn't likely to even reach the brake pedal until you're level with the front of the bus so you don't HAVE to be speeding to have an accident like this.
If you wanted to play devil's advocate going by the comment above "he ran out between two buses" you could argue that it's not the driver's fault either.
Baker_Boy
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7:59am Thu 9 Sep 10
It an accident no facts so thought are with driver too as he had to witness the event as well as the other children let's hope the school put on something so they can talk.
If I was 5 6 this would blow my mind and not in a gd way gd luck parents of pupil not young be easy
ShoeburyCyclist
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8:50am Thu 9 Sep 10
Russ13 wrote:As Devil's Advocate:
Hope this kid makes a full and speedy recovery.
As far as the driver of the car is concerned, as others have said let's give him the benefit of the doubt as in the heat of the moment a baying crowd will all concur he was speeding even if he wasn't.
Also bear this in mind....... If you're driving a car at 30MPH and are level with the back of a standard length bus, you're foot isn't likely to even reach the brake pedal until you're level with the front of the bus so you don't HAVE to be speeding to have an accident like this.
If you wanted to play devil's advocate going by the comment above "he ran out between two buses" you could argue that it's not the driver's fault either.
It could also be argued that as this was outside a school, at home time, with lots of children and parents about, with parked cars and buses causing restricted visibility, then a driver would be expected to significantly reduce their speed to match the conditions.
Also, I'm not sure about the use of the term 'accident' here. 'Accident' infers that no-one is to blame.
ScrewedForAnother5years
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9:16am Thu 9 Sep 10
ShoeburyCyclist wrote:Unless the driver set out to hit the child, it is an accident. It is still an accident if the driver was speeding, reckless yes but still an accident.
Russ13 wrote: Hope this kid makes a full and speedy recovery. As far as the driver of the car is concerned, as others have said let's give him the benefit of the doubt as in the heat of the moment a baying crowd will all concur he was speeding even if he wasn't. Also bear this in mind....... If you're driving a car at 30MPH and are level with the back of a standard length bus, you're foot isn't likely to even reach the brake pedal until you're level with the front of the bus so you don't HAVE to be speeding to have an accident like this. If you wanted to play devil's advocate going by the comment above "he ran out between two buses" you could argue that it's not the driver's fault either.As Devil's Advocate: It could also be argued that as this was outside a school, at home time, with lots of children and parents about, with parked cars and buses causing restricted visibility, then a driver would be expected to significantly reduce their speed to match the conditions. Also, I'm not sure about the use of the term 'accident' here. 'Accident' infers that no-one is to blame.
If it is proved that the driver aimed his vehicle at the child then it becomes something far more serious!
The parents of children at the junior school and the PRU need some education though, parking on the road to pick their children up puts their own, and other people's, children's life's at risk. There is a perfectly adequate car-park (currently it's free but I'm sure the council are looking at that situation), with a zebra crossing and a crossing attendant for them to use but some people are just too lazy.
jackdt09
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9:24am Thu 9 Sep 10
ShoeburyCyclist wrote:No, accident implies that the outcome was not intentional.
Russ13 wrote: Hope this kid makes a full and speedy recovery. As far as the driver of the car is concerned, as others have said let's give him the benefit of the doubt as in the heat of the moment a baying crowd will all concur he was speeding even if he wasn't. Also bear this in mind....... If you're driving a car at 30MPH and are level with the back of a standard length bus, you're foot isn't likely to even reach the brake pedal until you're level with the front of the bus so you don't HAVE to be speeding to have an accident like this. If you wanted to play devil's advocate going by the comment above "he ran out between two buses" you could argue that it's not the driver's fault either.As Devil's Advocate: It could also be argued that as this was outside a school, at home time, with lots of children and parents about, with parked cars and buses causing restricted visibility, then a driver would be expected to significantly reduce their speed to match the conditions. Also, I'm not sure about the use of the term 'accident' here. 'Accident' infers that no-one is to blame.
It could still be an offence, i.e. speeding, but you misunderstand the word 'accident'.
ShoeburyCyclist
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9:45am Thu 9 Sep 10
jackdt09 wrote:I understand 'accident' to mean something which was unavoidable.
ShoeburyCyclist wrote:No, accident implies that the outcome was not intentional.
Russ13 wrote: Hope this kid makes a full and speedy recovery. As far as the driver of the car is concerned, as others have said let's give him the benefit of the doubt as in the heat of the moment a baying crowd will all concur he was speeding even if he wasn't. Also bear this in mind....... If you're driving a car at 30MPH and are level with the back of a standard length bus, you're foot isn't likely to even reach the brake pedal until you're level with the front of the bus so you don't HAVE to be speeding to have an accident like this. If you wanted to play devil's advocate going by the comment above "he ran out between two buses" you could argue that it's not the driver's fault either.As Devil's Advocate: It could also be argued that as this was outside a school, at home time, with lots of children and parents about, with parked cars and buses causing restricted visibility, then a driver would be expected to significantly reduce their speed to match the conditions. Also, I'm not sure about the use of the term 'accident' here. 'Accident' infers that no-one is to blame.
It could still be an offence, i.e. speeding, but you misunderstand the word 'accident'.
Given the conditions outside this school at home time, drivers knowing there is a school there, a crossing, children all over the place, and restricted visibility, I don't see how , for any competent driver, this incident was 'unavoidable'.
Also, given the reported extent of this poor lad's injuries, I seriously doubt this was just a 30mph impact.
I have driven past there many times over the years at this time of day, and I have always reduced my speed to about 10mph until well past the school.
So I will repeat, until proven wrong by more facts from the police, this is no way an 'accident'.
imco
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11:59am Thu 9 Sep 10
Osama999
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12:11pm Thu 9 Sep 10
jackdt09 wrote:in all honesty, the driver of the car is not to blame. correct me if im wrong, but im pretty sure there is a zebra crossing just like 20 metres down the road from the bus stop? so surely if he had used that instead of trying to walk out between buses he would have been fine. obviously i have sympathy, but the driver has done nothing wrong here. the fault all lies with the child. I hope the child is okay, and i hope the family are fine as well. I also hope that the driver of the car is not traumatised by this, and i hope he isn't getting ripped into by people as it could have been any unfortunate person to have a child just step out in the road in front of them. even the person who commented this story saying how the driver should have a few years in prison. think how you would feel if it was you driving down this busy road and had someone just step in front of your car, would you deserve to go prison too? think before you speak.
ShoeburyCyclist wrote:No, accident implies that the outcome was not intentional.
Russ13 wrote: Hope this kid makes a full and speedy recovery. As far as the driver of the car is concerned, as others have said let's give him the benefit of the doubt as in the heat of the moment a baying crowd will all concur he was speeding even if he wasn't. Also bear this in mind....... If you're driving a car at 30MPH and are level with the back of a standard length bus, you're foot isn't likely to even reach the brake pedal until you're level with the front of the bus so you don't HAVE to be speeding to have an accident like this. If you wanted to play devil's advocate going by the comment above "he ran out between two buses" you could argue that it's not the driver's fault either.As Devil's Advocate: It could also be argued that as this was outside a school, at home time, with lots of children and parents about, with parked cars and buses causing restricted visibility, then a driver would be expected to significantly reduce their speed to match the conditions. Also, I'm not sure about the use of the term 'accident' here. 'Accident' infers that no-one is to blame.
It could still be an offence, i.e. speeding, but you misunderstand the word 'accident'.
imco
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12:24pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Osama999 wrote:Think before you drive too! Zebra crossing nearby, yes, but kids are unpredictable. Driving past a school at home time no-one should be surprised if a child walks out from nowhere. It's not right, but it happens. Drive accordingly!!!
jackdt09 wrote:in all honesty, the driver of the car is not to blame. correct me if im wrong, but im pretty sure there is a zebra crossing just like 20 metres down the road from the bus stop? so surely if he had used that instead of trying to walk out between buses he would have been fine. obviously i have sympathy, but the driver has done nothing wrong here. the fault all lies with the child. I hope the child is okay, and i hope the family are fine as well. I also hope that the driver of the car is not traumatised by this, and i hope he isn't getting ripped into by people as it could have been any unfortunate person to have a child just step out in the road in front of them. even the person who commented this story saying how the driver should have a few years in prison. think how you would feel if it was you driving down this busy road and had someone just step in front of your car, would you deserve to go prison too? think before you speak.ShoeburyCyclist wrote:No, accident implies that the outcome was not intentional. It could still be an offence, i.e. speeding, but you misunderstand the word 'accident'.Russ13 wrote: Hope this kid makes a full and speedy recovery. As far as the driver of the car is concerned, as others have said let's give him the benefit of the doubt as in the heat of the moment a baying crowd will all concur he was speeding even if he wasn't. Also bear this in mind....... If you're driving a car at 30MPH and are level with the back of a standard length bus, you're foot isn't likely to even reach the brake pedal until you're level with the front of the bus so you don't HAVE to be speeding to have an accident like this. If you wanted to play devil's advocate going by the comment above "he ran out between two buses" you could argue that it's not the driver's fault either.As Devil's Advocate: It could also be argued that as this was outside a school, at home time, with lots of children and parents about, with parked cars and buses causing restricted visibility, then a driver would be expected to significantly reduce their speed to match the conditions. Also, I'm not sure about the use of the term 'accident' here. 'Accident' infers that no-one is to blame.
jackdt09
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12:30pm Thu 9 Sep 10
ShoeburyCyclist wrote:You're still wrong about the word 'accident'. It doesn't have to be unavoidable, an accident is something that is unintentional. Look it up if you don't believe me, but I am right.
jackdt09 wrote:I understand 'accident' to mean something which was unavoidable. Given the conditions outside this school at home time, drivers knowing there is a school there, a crossing, children all over the place, and restricted visibility, I don't see how , for any competent driver, this incident was 'unavoidable'. Also, given the reported extent of this poor lad's injuries, I seriously doubt this was just a 30mph impact. I have driven past there many times over the years at this time of day, and I have always reduced my speed to about 10mph until well past the school. So I will repeat, until proven wrong by more facts from the police, this is no way an 'accident'.ShoeburyCyclist wrote:No, accident implies that the outcome was not intentional. It could still be an offence, i.e. speeding, but you misunderstand the word 'accident'.Russ13 wrote: Hope this kid makes a full and speedy recovery. As far as the driver of the car is concerned, as others have said let's give him the benefit of the doubt as in the heat of the moment a baying crowd will all concur he was speeding even if he wasn't. Also bear this in mind....... If you're driving a car at 30MPH and are level with the back of a standard length bus, you're foot isn't likely to even reach the brake pedal until you're level with the front of the bus so you don't HAVE to be speeding to have an accident like this. If you wanted to play devil's advocate going by the comment above "he ran out between two buses" you could argue that it's not the driver's fault either.As Devil's Advocate: It could also be argued that as this was outside a school, at home time, with lots of children and parents about, with parked cars and buses causing restricted visibility, then a driver would be expected to significantly reduce their speed to match the conditions. Also, I'm not sure about the use of the term 'accident' here. 'Accident' infers that no-one is to blame.
If a man was speeding at 100mph and hit a child without intention, then yes it is a criminal offence, but it is still an accident. Same applies.
mum13
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1:15pm Thu 9 Sep 10
the crossing is not that far away from where the bus stop is but if a kid wants to get across to the other bus stop they will not walk down to the crossing
there has been near misses on the crossing as well i had a near miss with my youngest on there and the lolly pop lady was on the crossing so if kids were a bit more careful and so are the drivers it would work out but also the parents also need to tell kids where to cross and they also need to learn to use the car parks that are there as they do make it hard for other road users for where they park
Mark D
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1:22pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Osama999 wrote:Given that I was not there, I don't feel able to judge if the driver was travelling at excessive speed. However, the speed limit on any road is a maximum; it is not necessarily appropriate in all conditions. I hope the child makes a quick recovery.
jackdt09 wrote:in all honesty, the driver of the car is not to blame. correct me if im wrong, but im pretty sure there is a zebra crossing just like 20 metres down the road from the bus stop? so surely if he had used that instead of trying to walk out between buses he would have been fine. obviously i have sympathy, but the driver has done nothing wrong here. the fault all lies with the child. I hope the child is okay, and i hope the family are fine as well. I also hope that the driver of the car is not traumatised by this, and i hope he isn't getting ripped into by people as it could have been any unfortunate person to have a child just step out in the road in front of them. even the person who commented this story saying how the driver should have a few years in prison. think how you would feel if it was you driving down this busy road and had someone just step in front of your car, would you deserve to go prison too? think before you speak.ShoeburyCyclist wrote:No, accident implies that the outcome was not intentional. It could still be an offence, i.e. speeding, but you misunderstand the word 'accident'.Russ13 wrote: Hope this kid makes a full and speedy recovery. As far as the driver of the car is concerned, as others have said let's give him the benefit of the doubt as in the heat of the moment a baying crowd will all concur he was speeding even if he wasn't. Also bear this in mind....... If you're driving a car at 30MPH and are level with the back of a standard length bus, you're foot isn't likely to even reach the brake pedal until you're level with the front of the bus so you don't HAVE to be speeding to have an accident like this. If you wanted to play devil's advocate going by the comment above "he ran out between two buses" you could argue that it's not the driver's fault either.As Devil's Advocate: It could also be argued that as this was outside a school, at home time, with lots of children and parents about, with parked cars and buses causing restricted visibility, then a driver would be expected to significantly reduce their speed to match the conditions. Also, I'm not sure about the use of the term 'accident' here. 'Accident' infers that no-one is to blame.
louloubell
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3:38pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Sunnybee
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4:50pm Thu 9 Sep 10
PJR
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4:52pm Thu 9 Sep 10
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How do we know the driver was speeding? Is it a fact mentioned in the story? How do we know the boy ran out into the road? I must have missed that bit.
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A child has been injured. But we have to turn that into an argument, about responsible road crossing, about speeding cars - when there is no evidence to either. I wasn't there, and therefore, I don't feel qualified to make a comment on the event itself. I don't understand why others have to, and then others have to take offence.
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I love a discussion, but there usually needs to be some substance behind it. Here, a child has been seriously injured, enough so that the air ambulance was called. Right now, all my thoughts about this story are that I hope and pray he is ok. I'll leave the circumstances of the accident to the investigators.
keptquietillnow
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5:00pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Get well soon young man.
poppyaubrey
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5:03pm Thu 9 Sep 10
really praying for my history teacher his mum and for duran himself.
everyone at school is saying a prayer for duran
x x x x x x x x
UKGovnor
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5:47pm Thu 9 Sep 10
If children see adults not using a zebra crossing then why should they use one.
Aaron!
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10:33pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Accident Or Not He Put My Mate In Hospital Ina Bad Condition Thats Bad Enough. Hope You Get Better Soon Duran And Good Luck To His Family x
bus-man
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10:34pm Thu 9 Sep 10
I must add that the boy did run out between 2 buses that where parked in the bus stop and the car was not speeding, there was nothing the driver could have done. what the observers also failed to mention was that the female bus driver was a great help and was told by the police that her actions of holding the boys head together and putting preasure on his bleeding actually saved the boys life. So i shall say it well done for what you did.
The boy is in a stabble condition and is being well looked after and my thoughts are with him and his family and also with the car driver who i expect is very shaken. The 3 bus drivers that saw the incident are all shaken and devastated with what happened not nice to see
mum13
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10:40pm Thu 9 Sep 10
bus-man
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10:46pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Shoebury13
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7:42am Fri 10 Sep 10
Accidents like this should not happen, especially outside that school,with a crossing and an underpass.
I think motorists should be more careful driving near schools, but also pedestrians should stick to the good old green cross code.
THINK! Find the safest place to cross, then stop.
STOP! Stand on the pavement near the kerb.
USE YOUR EYES AND EARS! Look all around for traffic, and listen.
WAIT UNTIL IT'S SAFE TO CROSS! If traffic is coming, let it pass.
LOOK AND LISTEN! When it's safe, walk straight across the road.
ARRIVE ALIVE! Keep looking and listening
Hopefully the child makes a full recovery and people learn from this incident.
Alice in Her Own Land :P
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8:13am Fri 10 Sep 10
ShoeburyCyclist
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9:06am Fri 10 Sep 10
Alice in Her Own Land :P wrote:I agree. We were bombarded with the Green Cross Code and Tuffty the Squirrel when we were kids. It wouldn't be difficult to do something similar today. And yes, it is also a parents' responsibility to teach their children how to cross the road safely.
Having read the above comments, why can't the parents and teachers teach the "Green Cross Code"? It worked when I was a kid and although it sounds old fashioned (I'm sure nowadays some-one could come up with a trendier name for it) - but it is still relevant today. Anything to save the awful accidents with children has got to be a good thing.
A mandatory 5mph to 10mph maximum speed limit in school zones would also be good start.
mum13
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9:18am Fri 10 Sep 10
ShoeburyCyclist
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10:24am Fri 10 Sep 10
mum13 wrote:The difference being that a child hit at 5mph or 10mph will be much less badly injured than a child hit at 30mph.
the school where it happened out side does do the road safety with the children BUT once a year is not enough for it i feel that if you do 10 or 30 around by a school and there is a accident then no matter what you will be in the wrong
Also if there is a 5mph or 10mph limit, there can be no doubt as to whether a car was being driven too fast.
R85
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4:49pm Fri 10 Sep 10
thesouthchurchflyer wrote:Young male nutters????? The man was 36 years old for god sake, since when was that young? The guy could have been driving for 19 years, but that’s not experienced??? WTF? Thought I was getting on but if 36 is that young then **** I must be a baby! Also, everybody (like you have) always seems to blame the driver! There was a story on here a couple of months ago where a guy hit a kid, did nothing wrong and got out to help the kid out …. The crowd turned on him and he had to drive off otherwise he would have been attacked! Seems like there must be a lot of simple people out there who cant understand that just because you are driving a car that hits somebody it doesn’t mean it’s the drivers fault!!!! Have you seem some of the kids around nowadays? A lot act like cars are non-existent and it’s a wonder it doesn’t happen more!
The child hit does go to the PRU and is the best friend of my nephew. The car was going quite fast, came round the bend, did not look for kids and ran right into him (according to the people there). The child has several broken ribs, arm, legs, probably a broken back, head injuries, and the only way not to add to the injuries during transport was evac to London via chopper. The car that hit him was a mess. When will the young male nutters in this town realise that they are reinforcing their little egos in vehicles that can very much be deadly. Any experienced driver with any moral consciousness would know that at an intersection where there are two schools and a nursery that kids can run out as they are kids. i hope the cops throw the book at this person as he will not be popular in this end of town. We all wish him the best.
HomeTruth
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1:23pm Mon 13 Sep 10
ShoeburyCyclist wrote:I been reading for months only just sign up.
mum13 wrote: the school where it happened out side does do the road safety with the children BUT once a year is not enough for it i feel that if you do 10 or 30 around by a school and there is a accident then no matter what you will be in the wrongThe difference being that a child hit at 5mph or 10mph will be much less badly injured than a child hit at 30mph. Also if there is a 5mph or 10mph limit, there can be no doubt as to whether a car was being driven too fast.
Could i ask would the speed limit be the same all year round or just between school hours.
There normally a lot of childern playing in streets would they be reduced too.
Thank You
John T Pharro
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5:40pm Mon 13 Sep 10
Of course the drivers who think speed camearas are a cash cow will disagree. Bet they change their view if any of teir children are injured!!
HomeTruth
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1:52pm Tue 14 Sep 10
Partyboy2
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2:45pm Tue 14 Sep 10
HomeTruth wrote:Are you sure you are not Baker_Boy?
ShoeburyCyclist wrote:I been reading for months only just sign up. Could i ask would the speed limit be the same all year round or just between school hours. There normally a lot of childern playing in streets would they be reduced too. Thank Youmum13 wrote: the school where it happened out side does do the road safety with the children BUT once a year is not enough for it i feel that if you do 10 or 30 around by a school and there is a accident then no matter what you will be in the wrongThe difference being that a child hit at 5mph or 10mph will be much less badly injured than a child hit at 30mph. Also if there is a 5mph or 10mph limit, there can be no doubt as to whether a car was being driven too fast.
HomeTruth
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7:42am Wed 15 Sep 10
Partyboy2 wrote:Are you sure you are not shoebury cyclist
HomeTruth wrote:Are you sure you are not Baker_Boy?
ShoeburyCyclist wrote:I been reading for months only just sign up. Could i ask would the speed limit be the same all year round or just between school hours. There normally a lot of childern playing in streets would they be reduced too. Thank Youmum13 wrote: the school where it happened out side does do the road safety with the children BUT once a year is not enough for it i feel that if you do 10 or 30 around by a school and there is a accident then no matter what you will be in the wrongThe difference being that a child hit at 5mph or 10mph will be much less badly injured than a child hit at 30mph. Also if there is a 5mph or 10mph limit, there can be no doubt as to whether a car was being driven too fast.
HomeTruth
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8:39am Wed 15 Sep 10
HomeTruth wrote:Are you sure you are not Mum 13?
Partyboy2 wrote:Are you sure you are not shoebury cyclistHomeTruth wrote:Are you sure you are not Baker_Boy?ShoeburyCyclist wrote:I been reading for months only just sign up. Could i ask would the speed limit be the same all year round or just between school hours. There normally a lot of childern playing in streets would they be reduced too. Thank Youmum13 wrote: the school where it happened out side does do the road safety with the children BUT once a year is not enough for it i feel that if you do 10 or 30 around by a school and there is a accident then no matter what you will be in the wrongThe difference being that a child hit at 5mph or 10mph will be much less badly injured than a child hit at 30mph. Also if there is a 5mph or 10mph limit, there can be no doubt as to whether a car was being driven too fast.
Partyboy2
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9:32am Wed 15 Sep 10
HomeTruth wrote:Ha ha ha. Baker_Boy, you joker....
HomeTruth wrote:Are you sure you are not Mum 13?Partyboy2 wrote:Are you sure you are not shoebury cyclistHomeTruth wrote:Are you sure you are not Baker_Boy?ShoeburyCyclist wrote:I been reading for months only just sign up. Could i ask would the speed limit be the same all year round or just between school hours. There normally a lot of childern playing in streets would they be reduced too. Thank Youmum13 wrote: the school where it happened out side does do the road safety with the children BUT once a year is not enough for it i feel that if you do 10 or 30 around by a school and there is a accident then no matter what you will be in the wrongThe difference being that a child hit at 5mph or 10mph will be much less badly injured than a child hit at 30mph. Also if there is a 5mph or 10mph limit, there can be no doubt as to whether a car was being driven too fast.
'I been reading for months only just sign up'.... You have cheered up my day!
HomeTruth
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1:12pm Wed 15 Sep 10
Partyboy2 wrote:and you really cheered me up mum 13
HomeTruth wrote:Ha ha ha. Baker_Boy, you joker.... 'I been reading for months only just sign up'.... You have cheered up my day!HomeTruth wrote:Are you sure you are not Mum 13?Partyboy2 wrote:Are you sure you are not shoebury cyclistHomeTruth wrote:Are you sure you are not Baker_Boy?ShoeburyCyclist wrote:I been reading for months only just sign up. Could i ask would the speed limit be the same all year round or just between school hours. There normally a lot of childern playing in streets would they be reduced too. Thank Youmum13 wrote: the school where it happened out side does do the road safety with the children BUT once a year is not enough for it i feel that if you do 10 or 30 around by a school and there is a accident then no matter what you will be in the wrongThe difference being that a child hit at 5mph or 10mph will be much less badly injured than a child hit at 30mph. Also if there is a 5mph or 10mph limit, there can be no doubt as to whether a car was being driven too fast.
Partyboy2
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3:53pm Wed 15 Sep 10
HomeTruth wrote:If I was going to create another username (like I have time for silly games like that) I can tell you now that I would not pick a name that insinuates that I am a 13 year old mum! I think you are just a bit hung up on the fact you have made yourself look a bit of a wally :-)
Partyboy2 wrote:and you really cheered me up mum 13HomeTruth wrote:Ha ha ha. Baker_Boy, you joker.... 'I been reading for months only just sign up'.... You have cheered up my day!HomeTruth wrote:Are you sure you are not Mum 13?Partyboy2 wrote:Are you sure you are not shoebury cyclistHomeTruth wrote:Are you sure you are not Baker_Boy?ShoeburyCyclist wrote:I been reading for months only just sign up. Could i ask would the speed limit be the same all year round or just between school hours. There normally a lot of childern playing in streets would they be reduced too. Thank Youmum13 wrote: the school where it happened out side does do the road safety with the children BUT once a year is not enough for it i feel that if you do 10 or 30 around by a school and there is a accident then no matter what you will be in the wrongThe difference being that a child hit at 5mph or 10mph will be much less badly injured than a child hit at 30mph. Also if there is a 5mph or 10mph limit, there can be no doubt as to whether a car was being driven too fast.
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