450 caught in fare-dodging blitz on c2c line

Echo: 450 caught in fare-dodging blitz on c2c line 450 caught in fare-dodging blitz on c2c line

ALMOST 450 people have been fined or face prosecution after a four-month crackdown on fare evaders on c2c trains.

Staff at the train company, backed by the British Transport Police, carried out a series of “showof force” operations to catch passengers who had not bought a ticket.

So far, 381 people have paid penalties for not having a valid ticket, costing them at least £20 each.

A further 65 people have been reported for possible prosecution, which could result in a fine of up to £1,000 being imposed in court.

The ticket-checking operation, conducted in addition to routine daily checks and undercover operations, targeted passengers throughout the day at stations along the c2c line, including Southend Central, Westcliff, Leigh, Benfleet, Pitsea, Basildon and Laindon.

Iain Palmer, c2c revenue protection and security manager, said: “We know the overwhelming majority of c2c passengers pay their way, and no one likes to be taken for a ride by fare evaders.

“That’s why we employ a range of tactics to catch the dodgers, from spot checks and undercover operations to these high-profile joint events with the police.

“Our message is simple – fare evaders are risking a fine, and possibly prosecution. Already, 450 people have found out it just isn’t worth taking that risk.”

Sgt Emma Weir, of the British Transport Police, based at Southend, said: “These joint operations with our partners at c2c have been regarded as a huge success and feedback from the public has been very positive.

“The initiative is predominantly aimed at combating public order and antisocial behaviour offences, as well as preventing crime and disrupting criminals.

“Officers made six arrests for drugs-related offences, with cautions being issued.”

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9:16am Mon 7 Apr 14

Eastwoodian says...

'Our message is simple – fare evaders are risking a fine, and possibly prosecution. Already, 450 people have found out it just isn’t worth taking that risk'

Well, that would depend how long they had been avoiding paying prior to getting caught !! If it's been weeks or months, then a 20 quid fine won't exactly bother them too much
'Our message is simple – fare evaders are risking a fine, and possibly prosecution. Already, 450 people have found out it just isn’t worth taking that risk' Well, that would depend how long they had been avoiding paying prior to getting caught !! If it's been weeks or months, then a 20 quid fine won't exactly bother them too much Eastwoodian
  • Score: 30

9:42am Mon 7 Apr 14

jpw0809 says...

Great news and keep up the good work! I'm Sick to death paying nearly £4.5k a year to use the C2C line when other scumbags think they can ride it for free! Everyday for last few months they have security guards blocking the stairs at West Ham in the mornings. Yes it's a pain getting my ticket out but I don't mind if they are catching that many fair dodgers :)
Great news and keep up the good work! I'm Sick to death paying nearly £4.5k a year to use the C2C line when other scumbags think they can ride it for free! Everyday for last few months they have security guards blocking the stairs at West Ham in the mornings. Yes it's a pain getting my ticket out but I don't mind if they are catching that many fair dodgers :) jpw0809
  • Score: 43

9:44am Mon 7 Apr 14

Happy Chickie says...

Good, nail all fare dodgers with heavy fines, or throw them in jail for a few weekends.
Good, nail all fare dodgers with heavy fines, or throw them in jail for a few weekends. Happy Chickie
  • Score: 24

9:52am Mon 7 Apr 14

Nebs says...

All public transport should be free at the point of use, paid for out of general taxation.
Until it is free then, as well as a fine for the fare dodgers, ban them from the railway network for a week for the first offence, two weeks for the second offence, three weeks etc etc
All public transport should be free at the point of use, paid for out of general taxation. Until it is free then, as well as a fine for the fare dodgers, ban them from the railway network for a week for the first offence, two weeks for the second offence, three weeks etc etc Nebs
  • Score: -25

10:05am Mon 7 Apr 14

austiali says...

Maybe C2C should ensure the security guards at their stations aren't allowing passengers through the barriers without tickets. Happens regularly at Grays station, that's along with the people who jump over the fences unchallenged.
Maybe C2C should ensure the security guards at their stations aren't allowing passengers through the barriers without tickets. Happens regularly at Grays station, that's along with the people who jump over the fences unchallenged. austiali
  • Score: 17

10:47am Mon 7 Apr 14

Howard Cháse says...

Good work. Keep it up
Good work. Keep it up Howard Cháse
  • Score: 17

10:47am Mon 7 Apr 14

I love Your Mum says...

If you can get away with it why not. Ive jumped the barriers or fences next to railway stations loads of times. So even if I was fined
£20 I couldn't care less. Still quids up!
If you can get away with it why not. Ive jumped the barriers or fences next to railway stations loads of times. So even if I was fined £20 I couldn't care less. Still quids up! I love Your Mum
  • Score: -30

10:54am Mon 7 Apr 14

pembury53 says...

all well and good cracking down, but sometimes you wonder if they want your money.... on more than one occaision, being as the counter was closed, tried using the ticket machine, which wouldn't issue a ticket because it couldn't give me 10 or 20p change ! i wasn't bothered about 10p i just wanted the ticket, what sort of idiot designs or programs a machine like that without giving you the option to accept the small over charge if you haven't got the exact fare.........
all well and good cracking down, but sometimes you wonder if they want your money.... on more than one occaision, being as the counter was closed, tried using the ticket machine, which wouldn't issue a ticket because it couldn't give me 10 or 20p change ! i wasn't bothered about 10p i just wanted the ticket, what sort of idiot designs or programs a machine like that without giving you the option to accept the small over charge if you haven't got the exact fare......... pembury53
  • Score: 16

11:30am Mon 7 Apr 14

beejiu says...

pembury53 wrote:
all well and good cracking down, but sometimes you wonder if they want your money.... on more than one occaision, being as the counter was closed, tried using the ticket machine, which wouldn't issue a ticket because it couldn't give me 10 or 20p change ! i wasn't bothered about 10p i just wanted the ticket, what sort of idiot designs or programs a machine like that without giving you the option to accept the small over charge if you haven't got the exact fare.........
If the machine is not working or there is not reasonable method to buy a ticket, you are allowed to travel without a ticket and purchase one at the destination.
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: all well and good cracking down, but sometimes you wonder if they want your money.... on more than one occaision, being as the counter was closed, tried using the ticket machine, which wouldn't issue a ticket because it couldn't give me 10 or 20p change ! i wasn't bothered about 10p i just wanted the ticket, what sort of idiot designs or programs a machine like that without giving you the option to accept the small over charge if you haven't got the exact fare.........[/p][/quote]If the machine is not working or there is not reasonable method to buy a ticket, you are allowed to travel without a ticket and purchase one at the destination. beejiu
  • Score: 5

12:03pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Southend Andy says...

Good work, keep it up. Just imagine if you had a finger cut off for fair dodging. Bet far less people would try it then.
Good work, keep it up. Just imagine if you had a finger cut off for fair dodging. Bet far less people would try it then. Southend Andy
  • Score: 5

12:14pm Mon 7 Apr 14

scrounger‎ says...

Southend Andy wrote:
Good work, keep it up. Just imagine if you had a finger cut off for fair dodging. Bet far less people would try it then.
Wouldn't stop fare dodging but would stop them picking their nose.
[quote][p][bold]Southend Andy[/bold] wrote: Good work, keep it up. Just imagine if you had a finger cut off for fair dodging. Bet far less people would try it then.[/p][/quote]Wouldn't stop fare dodging but would stop them picking their nose. scrounger‎
  • Score: 10

12:51pm Mon 7 Apr 14

I love Your Mum says...

jpw0809 wrote:
Great news and keep up the good work! I'm Sick to death paying nearly £4.5k a year to use the C2C line when other scumbags think they can ride it for free! Everyday for last few months they have security guards blocking the stairs at West Ham in the mornings. Yes it's a pain getting my ticket out but I don't mind if they are catching that many fair dodgers :)
4.5k?! They saw you coming didn't they! Have you got mug written across your forehead?
[quote][p][bold]jpw0809[/bold] wrote: Great news and keep up the good work! I'm Sick to death paying nearly £4.5k a year to use the C2C line when other scumbags think they can ride it for free! Everyday for last few months they have security guards blocking the stairs at West Ham in the mornings. Yes it's a pain getting my ticket out but I don't mind if they are catching that many fair dodgers :)[/p][/quote]4.5k?! They saw you coming didn't they! Have you got mug written across your forehead? I love Your Mum
  • Score: -18

12:53pm Mon 7 Apr 14

wobblybob says...

Now lets have a crackdown on cycles on the morning rush-hour trains, perhaps I can claim for cleaning my trousers when these idiots ram their muddy bikes onto already overcrowded trains. What beggars belief is that when the train arrives at Fen St. security staff watch them going through the barriers & do nothing.
Now lets have a crackdown on cycles on the morning rush-hour trains, perhaps I can claim for cleaning my trousers when these idiots ram their muddy bikes onto already overcrowded trains. What beggars belief is that when the train arrives at Fen St. security staff watch them going through the barriers & do nothing. wobblybob
  • Score: 16

12:58pm Mon 7 Apr 14

pembury53 says...

beejiu wrote:
pembury53 wrote: all well and good cracking down, but sometimes you wonder if they want your money.... on more than one occaision, being as the counter was closed, tried using the ticket machine, which wouldn't issue a ticket because it couldn't give me 10 or 20p change ! i wasn't bothered about 10p i just wanted the ticket, what sort of idiot designs or programs a machine like that without giving you the option to accept the small over charge if you haven't got the exact fare.........
If the machine is not working or there is not reasonable method to buy a ticket, you are allowed to travel without a ticket and purchase one at the destination.
cheers, i never knew that.... I still don't understand why the ticket machine can't simply display a message 'no change available' when you insert the money then 'continue yes/no' ?
[quote][p][bold]beejiu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: all well and good cracking down, but sometimes you wonder if they want your money.... on more than one occaision, being as the counter was closed, tried using the ticket machine, which wouldn't issue a ticket because it couldn't give me 10 or 20p change ! i wasn't bothered about 10p i just wanted the ticket, what sort of idiot designs or programs a machine like that without giving you the option to accept the small over charge if you haven't got the exact fare.........[/p][/quote]If the machine is not working or there is not reasonable method to buy a ticket, you are allowed to travel without a ticket and purchase one at the destination.[/p][/quote]cheers, i never knew that.... I still don't understand why the ticket machine can't simply display a message 'no change available' when you insert the money then 'continue yes/no' ? pembury53
  • Score: 1

1:28pm Mon 7 Apr 14

I love Your Mum says...

wobblybob wrote:
Now lets have a crackdown on cycles on the morning rush-hour trains, perhaps I can claim for cleaning my trousers when these idiots ram their muddy bikes onto already overcrowded trains. What beggars belief is that when the train arrives at Fen St. security staff watch them going through the barriers & do nothing.
The world don't evolve around you. If someone wants to take a bike onto the train they **** well can. Your the type of person that is probably fat and takes up 2 seats.
[quote][p][bold]wobblybob[/bold] wrote: Now lets have a crackdown on cycles on the morning rush-hour trains, perhaps I can claim for cleaning my trousers when these idiots ram their muddy bikes onto already overcrowded trains. What beggars belief is that when the train arrives at Fen St. security staff watch them going through the barriers & do nothing.[/p][/quote]The world don't evolve around you. If someone wants to take a bike onto the train they **** well can. Your the type of person that is probably fat and takes up 2 seats. I love Your Mum
  • Score: -14

1:42pm Mon 7 Apr 14

andy:) says...

beejiu wrote:
pembury53 wrote:
all well and good cracking down, but sometimes you wonder if they want your money.... on more than one occaision, being as the counter was closed, tried using the ticket machine, which wouldn't issue a ticket because it couldn't give me 10 or 20p change ! i wasn't bothered about 10p i just wanted the ticket, what sort of idiot designs or programs a machine like that without giving you the option to accept the small over charge if you haven't got the exact fare.........
If the machine is not working or there is not reasonable method to buy a ticket, you are allowed to travel without a ticket and purchase one at the destination.
Or if there is no-one at the destination, just walk out and travel for free.

It does seem odd that many stations have no staff hald the time and then at other times thay have a mad crackdown
[quote][p][bold]beejiu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: all well and good cracking down, but sometimes you wonder if they want your money.... on more than one occaision, being as the counter was closed, tried using the ticket machine, which wouldn't issue a ticket because it couldn't give me 10 or 20p change ! i wasn't bothered about 10p i just wanted the ticket, what sort of idiot designs or programs a machine like that without giving you the option to accept the small over charge if you haven't got the exact fare.........[/p][/quote]If the machine is not working or there is not reasonable method to buy a ticket, you are allowed to travel without a ticket and purchase one at the destination.[/p][/quote]Or if there is no-one at the destination, just walk out and travel for free. It does seem odd that many stations have no staff hald the time and then at other times thay have a mad crackdown andy:)
  • Score: 4

1:49pm Mon 7 Apr 14

cockneyriviera says...

I love Your Mum wrote:
wobblybob wrote: Now lets have a crackdown on cycles on the morning rush-hour trains, perhaps I can claim for cleaning my trousers when these idiots ram their muddy bikes onto already overcrowded trains. What beggars belief is that when the train arrives at Fen St. security staff watch them going through the barriers & do nothing.
The world don't evolve around you. If someone wants to take a bike onto the train they **** well can. Your the type of person that is probably fat and takes up 2 seats.
Bring back first class I say. Happy to pay double to watch the vermin and their bikes from behind the smoked glass.
[quote][p][bold]I love Your Mum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wobblybob[/bold] wrote: Now lets have a crackdown on cycles on the morning rush-hour trains, perhaps I can claim for cleaning my trousers when these idiots ram their muddy bikes onto already overcrowded trains. What beggars belief is that when the train arrives at Fen St. security staff watch them going through the barriers & do nothing.[/p][/quote]The world don't evolve around you. If someone wants to take a bike onto the train they **** well can. Your the type of person that is probably fat and takes up 2 seats.[/p][/quote]Bring back first class I say. Happy to pay double to watch the vermin and their bikes from behind the smoked glass. cockneyriviera
  • Score: 2

1:54pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Qwerty1982 says...

wobblybob wrote:
Now lets have a crackdown on cycles on the morning rush-hour trains, perhaps I can claim for cleaning my trousers when these idiots ram their muddy bikes onto already overcrowded trains. What beggars belief is that when the train arrives at Fen St. security staff watch them going through the barriers & do nothing.
Couldn't agree more! Fed up of being wedged up against bikes all journey while the cyclist gets a seat. I've paid for my season ticket, the bike hasn't!!
[quote][p][bold]wobblybob[/bold] wrote: Now lets have a crackdown on cycles on the morning rush-hour trains, perhaps I can claim for cleaning my trousers when these idiots ram their muddy bikes onto already overcrowded trains. What beggars belief is that when the train arrives at Fen St. security staff watch them going through the barriers & do nothing.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more! Fed up of being wedged up against bikes all journey while the cyclist gets a seat. I've paid for my season ticket, the bike hasn't!! Qwerty1982
  • Score: 5

1:55pm Mon 7 Apr 14

cockneyriviera says...

Have to say I really enjoyed the barmy drunk woman the police turfed off at West Ham last Thursday. 45 minutes of rip roaring swearing, madness and Stella Artois at 5am. Dont think the people sitting near her enjoyed the show much though.
Have to say I really enjoyed the barmy drunk woman the police turfed off at West Ham last Thursday. 45 minutes of rip roaring swearing, madness and Stella Artois at 5am. Dont think the people sitting near her enjoyed the show much though. cockneyriviera
  • Score: 4

2:42pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Happy Chickie says...

I love Your Mum wrote:
wobblybob wrote:
Now lets have a crackdown on cycles on the morning rush-hour trains, perhaps I can claim for cleaning my trousers when these idiots ram their muddy bikes onto already overcrowded trains. What beggars belief is that when the train arrives at Fen St. security staff watch them going through the barriers & do nothing.
The world don't evolve around you. If someone wants to take a bike onto the train they **** well can. Your the type of person that is probably fat and takes up 2 seats.
Are you naturally stupid or do you pick it up along the way?
[quote][p][bold]I love Your Mum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wobblybob[/bold] wrote: Now lets have a crackdown on cycles on the morning rush-hour trains, perhaps I can claim for cleaning my trousers when these idiots ram their muddy bikes onto already overcrowded trains. What beggars belief is that when the train arrives at Fen St. security staff watch them going through the barriers & do nothing.[/p][/quote]The world don't evolve around you. If someone wants to take a bike onto the train they **** well can. Your the type of person that is probably fat and takes up 2 seats.[/p][/quote]Are you naturally stupid or do you pick it up along the way? Happy Chickie
  • Score: 12

2:45pm Mon 7 Apr 14

I love Your Mum says...

Happy Chickie wrote:
I love Your Mum wrote:
wobblybob wrote:
Now lets have a crackdown on cycles on the morning rush-hour trains, perhaps I can claim for cleaning my trousers when these idiots ram their muddy bikes onto already overcrowded trains. What beggars belief is that when the train arrives at Fen St. security staff watch them going through the barriers & do nothing.
The world don't evolve around you. If someone wants to take a bike onto the train they **** well can. Your the type of person that is probably fat and takes up 2 seats.
Are you naturally stupid or do you pick it up along the way?
What makes you think a cyclist can't come on the train?
[quote][p][bold]Happy Chickie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I love Your Mum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wobblybob[/bold] wrote: Now lets have a crackdown on cycles on the morning rush-hour trains, perhaps I can claim for cleaning my trousers when these idiots ram their muddy bikes onto already overcrowded trains. What beggars belief is that when the train arrives at Fen St. security staff watch them going through the barriers & do nothing.[/p][/quote]The world don't evolve around you. If someone wants to take a bike onto the train they **** well can. Your the type of person that is probably fat and takes up 2 seats.[/p][/quote]Are you naturally stupid or do you pick it up along the way?[/p][/quote]What makes you think a cyclist can't come on the train? I love Your Mum
  • Score: -9

2:56pm Mon 7 Apr 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

wobblybob wrote:
Now lets have a crackdown on cycles on the morning rush-hour trains, perhaps I can claim for cleaning my trousers when these idiots ram their muddy bikes onto already overcrowded trains. What beggars belief is that when the train arrives at Fen St. security staff watch them going through the barriers & do nothing.
Use a needle, deflates their resiliance
[quote][p][bold]wobblybob[/bold] wrote: Now lets have a crackdown on cycles on the morning rush-hour trains, perhaps I can claim for cleaning my trousers when these idiots ram their muddy bikes onto already overcrowded trains. What beggars belief is that when the train arrives at Fen St. security staff watch them going through the barriers & do nothing.[/p][/quote]Use a needle, deflates their resiliance carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: 3

3:24pm Mon 7 Apr 14

saveDeanesschool says...

pembury53 wrote:
beejiu wrote:
pembury53 wrote: all well and good cracking down, but sometimes you wonder if they want your money.... on more than one occaision, being as the counter was closed, tried using the ticket machine, which wouldn't issue a ticket because it couldn't give me 10 or 20p change ! i wasn't bothered about 10p i just wanted the ticket, what sort of idiot designs or programs a machine like that without giving you the option to accept the small over charge if you haven't got the exact fare.........
If the machine is not working or there is not reasonable method to buy a ticket, you are allowed to travel without a ticket and purchase one at the destination.
cheers, i never knew that.... I still don't understand why the ticket machine can't simply display a message 'no change available' when you insert the money then 'continue yes/no' ?
What I don't understand is why the machines don't offer 'super off-peak' tickets?
It costs my son a few quid more than if paying at the kiosk -usually no one is there weekends. He is a student so has to watch his money so no surprise then if you find youngsters dodging fares, not condoning it, but what do they expect?
Sort it out C2C! Whose being criminal now?
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beejiu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: all well and good cracking down, but sometimes you wonder if they want your money.... on more than one occaision, being as the counter was closed, tried using the ticket machine, which wouldn't issue a ticket because it couldn't give me 10 or 20p change ! i wasn't bothered about 10p i just wanted the ticket, what sort of idiot designs or programs a machine like that without giving you the option to accept the small over charge if you haven't got the exact fare.........[/p][/quote]If the machine is not working or there is not reasonable method to buy a ticket, you are allowed to travel without a ticket and purchase one at the destination.[/p][/quote]cheers, i never knew that.... I still don't understand why the ticket machine can't simply display a message 'no change available' when you insert the money then 'continue yes/no' ?[/p][/quote]What I don't understand is why the machines don't offer 'super off-peak' tickets? It costs my son a few quid more than if paying at the kiosk -usually no one is there weekends. He is a student so has to watch his money so no surprise then if you find youngsters dodging fares, not condoning it, but what do they expect? Sort it out C2C! Whose being criminal now? saveDeanesschool
  • Score: 0

4:02pm Mon 7 Apr 14

I love Your Mum says...

saveDeanesschool wrote:
pembury53 wrote:
beejiu wrote:
pembury53 wrote: all well and good cracking down, but sometimes you wonder if they want your money.... on more than one occaision, being as the counter was closed, tried using the ticket machine, which wouldn't issue a ticket because it couldn't give me 10 or 20p change ! i wasn't bothered about 10p i just wanted the ticket, what sort of idiot designs or programs a machine like that without giving you the option to accept the small over charge if you haven't got the exact fare.........
If the machine is not working or there is not reasonable method to buy a ticket, you are allowed to travel without a ticket and purchase one at the destination.
cheers, i never knew that.... I still don't understand why the ticket machine can't simply display a message 'no change available' when you insert the money then 'continue yes/no' ?
What I don't understand is why the machines don't offer 'super off-peak' tickets?
It costs my son a few quid more than if paying at the kiosk -usually no one is there weekends. He is a student so has to watch his money so no surprise then if you find youngsters dodging fares, not condoning it, but what do they expect?
Sort it out C2C! Whose being criminal now?
I couldn't agree more to be honest. They just keep hiking prices up because they know people still have to use the service. Okay it's pretty reliable, but they should have more carriages on the train to deal with over crowding. So when people are paying super high prices, not even getting a seat, I can see why people dodge fares. Like I said earlier, if you can get away with it why not.
[quote][p][bold]saveDeanesschool[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beejiu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: all well and good cracking down, but sometimes you wonder if they want your money.... on more than one occaision, being as the counter was closed, tried using the ticket machine, which wouldn't issue a ticket because it couldn't give me 10 or 20p change ! i wasn't bothered about 10p i just wanted the ticket, what sort of idiot designs or programs a machine like that without giving you the option to accept the small over charge if you haven't got the exact fare.........[/p][/quote]If the machine is not working or there is not reasonable method to buy a ticket, you are allowed to travel without a ticket and purchase one at the destination.[/p][/quote]cheers, i never knew that.... I still don't understand why the ticket machine can't simply display a message 'no change available' when you insert the money then 'continue yes/no' ?[/p][/quote]What I don't understand is why the machines don't offer 'super off-peak' tickets? It costs my son a few quid more than if paying at the kiosk -usually no one is there weekends. He is a student so has to watch his money so no surprise then if you find youngsters dodging fares, not condoning it, but what do they expect? Sort it out C2C! Whose being criminal now?[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more to be honest. They just keep hiking prices up because they know people still have to use the service. Okay it's pretty reliable, but they should have more carriages on the train to deal with over crowding. So when people are paying super high prices, not even getting a seat, I can see why people dodge fares. Like I said earlier, if you can get away with it why not. I love Your Mum
  • Score: 0

5:15pm Mon 7 Apr 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

saveDeanesschool wrote:
pembury53 wrote:
beejiu wrote:
pembury53 wrote: all well and good cracking down, but sometimes you wonder if they want your money.... on more than one occaision, being as the counter was closed, tried using the ticket machine, which wouldn't issue a ticket because it couldn't give me 10 or 20p change ! i wasn't bothered about 10p i just wanted the ticket, what sort of idiot designs or programs a machine like that without giving you the option to accept the small over charge if you haven't got the exact fare.........
If the machine is not working or there is not reasonable method to buy a ticket, you are allowed to travel without a ticket and purchase one at the destination.
cheers, i never knew that.... I still don't understand why the ticket machine can't simply display a message 'no change available' when you insert the money then 'continue yes/no' ?
What I don't understand is why the machines don't offer 'super off-peak' tickets?
It costs my son a few quid more than if paying at the kiosk -usually no one is there weekends. He is a student so has to watch his money so no surprise then if you find youngsters dodging fares, not condoning it, but what do they expect?
Sort it out C2C! Whose being criminal now?
I was hoping you'd buzz off now the deanes is back on track, but no, here you are attempting to gain support for your son, who can't, won't get a ticket, during normal ticket office opening times.
If people have not the right change, and cannot be bothered to buy a ticket, in advance, they really have no right to be on the train to begin with.
[quote][p][bold]saveDeanesschool[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beejiu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: all well and good cracking down, but sometimes you wonder if they want your money.... on more than one occaision, being as the counter was closed, tried using the ticket machine, which wouldn't issue a ticket because it couldn't give me 10 or 20p change ! i wasn't bothered about 10p i just wanted the ticket, what sort of idiot designs or programs a machine like that without giving you the option to accept the small over charge if you haven't got the exact fare.........[/p][/quote]If the machine is not working or there is not reasonable method to buy a ticket, you are allowed to travel without a ticket and purchase one at the destination.[/p][/quote]cheers, i never knew that.... I still don't understand why the ticket machine can't simply display a message 'no change available' when you insert the money then 'continue yes/no' ?[/p][/quote]What I don't understand is why the machines don't offer 'super off-peak' tickets? It costs my son a few quid more than if paying at the kiosk -usually no one is there weekends. He is a student so has to watch his money so no surprise then if you find youngsters dodging fares, not condoning it, but what do they expect? Sort it out C2C! Whose being criminal now?[/p][/quote]I was hoping you'd buzz off now the deanes is back on track, but no, here you are attempting to gain support for your son, who can't, won't get a ticket, during normal ticket office opening times. If people have not the right change, and cannot be bothered to buy a ticket, in advance, they really have no right to be on the train to begin with. carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: -16

6:29pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

All fare dodgers need to be taken to court, heavy fines, high court costs, and a life ban on using the line, would ease the passenger congestion.
All fare dodgers need to be taken to court, heavy fines, high court costs, and a life ban on using the line, would ease the passenger congestion. Nowthatsworthknowing
  • Score: 6

12:23am Tue 8 Apr 14

railfan235 says...

saveDeanesschool wrote:
pembury53 wrote:
beejiu wrote:
pembury53 wrote: all well and good cracking down, but sometimes you wonder if they want your money.... on more than one occaision, being as the counter was closed, tried using the ticket machine, which wouldn't issue a ticket because it couldn't give me 10 or 20p change ! i wasn't bothered about 10p i just wanted the ticket, what sort of idiot designs or programs a machine like that without giving you the option to accept the small over charge if you haven't got the exact fare.........
If the machine is not working or there is not reasonable method to buy a ticket, you are allowed to travel without a ticket and purchase one at the destination.
cheers, i never knew that.... I still don't understand why the ticket machine can't simply display a message 'no change available' when you insert the money then 'continue yes/no' ?
What I don't understand is why the machines don't offer 'super off-peak' tickets?
It costs my son a few quid more than if paying at the kiosk -usually no one is there weekends. He is a student so has to watch his money so no surprise then if you find youngsters dodging fares, not condoning it, but what do they expect?
Sort it out C2C! Whose being criminal now?
C2C are sorting it out but i think you find its the yobos and drug addicts that are doing this over and over because they rather spend there money on drugs and crap like that then pay a £3.50 single ticket
[quote][p][bold]saveDeanesschool[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beejiu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: all well and good cracking down, but sometimes you wonder if they want your money.... on more than one occaision, being as the counter was closed, tried using the ticket machine, which wouldn't issue a ticket because it couldn't give me 10 or 20p change ! i wasn't bothered about 10p i just wanted the ticket, what sort of idiot designs or programs a machine like that without giving you the option to accept the small over charge if you haven't got the exact fare.........[/p][/quote]If the machine is not working or there is not reasonable method to buy a ticket, you are allowed to travel without a ticket and purchase one at the destination.[/p][/quote]cheers, i never knew that.... I still don't understand why the ticket machine can't simply display a message 'no change available' when you insert the money then 'continue yes/no' ?[/p][/quote]What I don't understand is why the machines don't offer 'super off-peak' tickets? It costs my son a few quid more than if paying at the kiosk -usually no one is there weekends. He is a student so has to watch his money so no surprise then if you find youngsters dodging fares, not condoning it, but what do they expect? Sort it out C2C! Whose being criminal now?[/p][/quote]C2C are sorting it out but i think you find its the yobos and drug addicts that are doing this over and over because they rather spend there money on drugs and crap like that then pay a £3.50 single ticket railfan235
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11:10am Tue 8 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

jpw0809 wrote:
Great news and keep up the good work! I'm Sick to death paying nearly £4.5k a year to use the C2C line when other scumbags think they can ride it for free! Everyday for last few months they have security guards blocking the stairs at West Ham in the mornings. Yes it's a pain getting my ticket out but I don't mind if they are catching that many fair dodgers :)
Yes you are right to be glad, after all, all the dodgers they catch lowers the price of your ticket doesn't it?
[quote][p][bold]jpw0809[/bold] wrote: Great news and keep up the good work! I'm Sick to death paying nearly £4.5k a year to use the C2C line when other scumbags think they can ride it for free! Everyday for last few months they have security guards blocking the stairs at West Ham in the mornings. Yes it's a pain getting my ticket out but I don't mind if they are catching that many fair dodgers :)[/p][/quote]Yes you are right to be glad, after all, all the dodgers they catch lowers the price of your ticket doesn't it? ThisYear
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11:14am Tue 8 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

austiali wrote:
Maybe C2C should ensure the security guards at their stations aren't allowing passengers through the barriers without tickets. Happens regularly at Grays station, that's along with the people who jump over the fences unchallenged.
It must keep you firmly aware at night worrying about it..
[quote][p][bold]austiali[/bold] wrote: Maybe C2C should ensure the security guards at their stations aren't allowing passengers through the barriers without tickets. Happens regularly at Grays station, that's along with the people who jump over the fences unchallenged.[/p][/quote]It must keep you firmly aware at night worrying about it.. ThisYear
  • Score: -2

1:54pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Janefromsouthend says...

At the end of the day fare dodging is stealing and all thieves should be fined or go to jail .
At the end of the day fare dodging is stealing and all thieves should be fined or go to jail . Janefromsouthend
  • Score: 1

2:22pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Feminism is Dead says...

Do inspectors actually go on rush hour trains? Aside from the fact that it's impossible to get out at Fenchurch Street without paying, it would take them hours to scour 12 carriages when the journey only lasts 45 minutes.
Do inspectors actually go on rush hour trains? Aside from the fact that it's impossible to get out at Fenchurch Street without paying, it would take them hours to scour 12 carriages when the journey only lasts 45 minutes. Feminism is Dead
  • Score: 0

4:41pm Tue 8 Apr 14

kng says...

i used to travel very early morning on a regular basis and used to see ticket inspectors regulary.then comming home at lunch time id see another lot of inspectors but never during rush hours.perhaps this is the time to target as you may get a lot more revenue .also if no ticket machine or office is open where you depart your journey you are allowed to travel to your destination if you get stopped simply state you could not purchase a ticket for that reason and they cannot fine you but you must pay or offer to pay the correct fare .
also the police and inspectors need to target the grays ,tilbury,ockendon areas as theres lots of anti social knife carrying druggies skipping fares from pitsea down to fenchurch street along the loop line.
i used to travel very early morning on a regular basis and used to see ticket inspectors regulary.then comming home at lunch time id see another lot of inspectors but never during rush hours.perhaps this is the time to target as you may get a lot more revenue .also if no ticket machine or office is open where you depart your journey you are allowed to travel to your destination if you get stopped simply state you could not purchase a ticket for that reason and they cannot fine you but you must pay or offer to pay the correct fare . also the police and inspectors need to target the grays ,tilbury,ockendon areas as theres lots of anti social knife carrying druggies skipping fares from pitsea down to fenchurch street along the loop line. kng
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12:26am Wed 9 Apr 14

carlosfandango30 says...

Why are some people paying £4.5 k a year. Most expensive season ticket is £3300. The additional is for onward journeys so not C2C's fault. Crowded trains happen. Get over it!! I travel from Shoeburyness/Thorpe Bay daily and don't always get a seat on the service home. I have the choice to stand or wait at another platform for a later service. (Usually 5-10 minutes). No biggie!! And cycles are frustrating (folded ones you bash your knee on) but to ban them or restrict them when some people get on daily with bags as big as they are is ludicrous. Stop whinging!
Why are some people paying £4.5 k a year. Most expensive season ticket is £3300. The additional is for onward journeys so not C2C's fault. Crowded trains happen. Get over it!! I travel from Shoeburyness/Thorpe Bay daily and don't always get a seat on the service home. I have the choice to stand or wait at another platform for a later service. (Usually 5-10 minutes). No biggie!! And cycles are frustrating (folded ones you bash your knee on) but to ban them or restrict them when some people get on daily with bags as big as they are is ludicrous. Stop whinging! carlosfandango30
  • Score: 2

2:11am Wed 9 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

Janefromsouthend wrote:
At the end of the day fare dodging is stealing and all thieves should be fined or go to jail .
At the end of the day it is nighttime...how is dodging a fare stealing? What is actually being stole?
[quote][p][bold]Janefromsouthend[/bold] wrote: At the end of the day fare dodging is stealing and all thieves should be fined or go to jail .[/p][/quote]At the end of the day it is nighttime...how is dodging a fare stealing? What is actually being stole? ThisYear
  • Score: -6

2:10pm Wed 9 Apr 14

cg1blue says...

Feminism is Dead wrote:
Do inspectors actually go on rush hour trains? Aside from the fact that it's impossible to get out at Fenchurch Street without paying, it would take them hours to scour 12 carriages when the journey only lasts 45 minutes.
There is no room for the inspectors to move along the carriages during rush hour - it would be virtually impossible. Trry travelling from Limehouse between 6 and 6.30 and you'll see what I mean! Sardines have it easy in comparison....
[quote][p][bold]Feminism is Dead[/bold] wrote: Do inspectors actually go on rush hour trains? Aside from the fact that it's impossible to get out at Fenchurch Street without paying, it would take them hours to scour 12 carriages when the journey only lasts 45 minutes.[/p][/quote]There is no room for the inspectors to move along the carriages during rush hour - it would be virtually impossible. Trry travelling from Limehouse between 6 and 6.30 and you'll see what I mean! Sardines have it easy in comparison.... cg1blue
  • Score: 0

4:49pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Feminism is Dead says...

cg1blue wrote:
Feminism is Dead wrote: Do inspectors actually go on rush hour trains? Aside from the fact that it's impossible to get out at Fenchurch Street without paying, it would take them hours to scour 12 carriages when the journey only lasts 45 minutes.
There is no room for the inspectors to move along the carriages during rush hour - it would be virtually impossible. Trry travelling from Limehouse between 6 and 6.30 and you'll see what I mean! Sardines have it easy in comparison....
That's exactly what I do every day.

What I'm saying is that it's impossible to get in and out of the barriers at Fenchurch Street during peak times without a ticket, therefore it stands to reason that all commuters must have valid tickets and it's only the rise-at-midday unemployed and late night partygoers that are the offenders.
[quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feminism is Dead[/bold] wrote: Do inspectors actually go on rush hour trains? Aside from the fact that it's impossible to get out at Fenchurch Street without paying, it would take them hours to scour 12 carriages when the journey only lasts 45 minutes.[/p][/quote]There is no room for the inspectors to move along the carriages during rush hour - it would be virtually impossible. Trry travelling from Limehouse between 6 and 6.30 and you'll see what I mean! Sardines have it easy in comparison....[/p][/quote]That's exactly what I do every day. What I'm saying is that it's impossible to get in and out of the barriers at Fenchurch Street during peak times without a ticket, therefore it stands to reason that all commuters must have valid tickets and it's only the rise-at-midday unemployed and late night partygoers that are the offenders. Feminism is Dead
  • Score: 0

8:20am Thu 10 Apr 14

Abington86 says...

Feminism is Dead wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
Feminism is Dead wrote: Do inspectors actually go on rush hour trains? Aside from the fact that it's impossible to get out at Fenchurch Street without paying, it would take them hours to scour 12 carriages when the journey only lasts 45 minutes.
There is no room for the inspectors to move along the carriages during rush hour - it would be virtually impossible. Trry travelling from Limehouse between 6 and 6.30 and you'll see what I mean! Sardines have it easy in comparison....
That's exactly what I do every day. What I'm saying is that it's impossible to get in and out of the barriers at Fenchurch Street during peak times without a ticket, therefore it stands to reason that all commuters must have valid tickets and it's only the rise-at-midday unemployed and late night partygoers that are the offenders.
Which is why at Basildon and Laindon tailgaters are in abundance. The dozy 'security' men do nothing about this. If I have to pay for my ticket why shouldnt others?
[quote][p][bold]Feminism is Dead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feminism is Dead[/bold] wrote: Do inspectors actually go on rush hour trains? Aside from the fact that it's impossible to get out at Fenchurch Street without paying, it would take them hours to scour 12 carriages when the journey only lasts 45 minutes.[/p][/quote]There is no room for the inspectors to move along the carriages during rush hour - it would be virtually impossible. Trry travelling from Limehouse between 6 and 6.30 and you'll see what I mean! Sardines have it easy in comparison....[/p][/quote]That's exactly what I do every day. What I'm saying is that it's impossible to get in and out of the barriers at Fenchurch Street during peak times without a ticket, therefore it stands to reason that all commuters must have valid tickets and it's only the rise-at-midday unemployed and late night partygoers that are the offenders.[/p][/quote]Which is why at Basildon and Laindon tailgaters are in abundance. The dozy 'security' men do nothing about this. If I have to pay for my ticket why shouldnt others? Abington86
  • Score: -1

9:44pm Thu 10 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

Abington86 wrote:
Feminism is Dead wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
Feminism is Dead wrote: Do inspectors actually go on rush hour trains? Aside from the fact that it's impossible to get out at Fenchurch Street without paying, it would take them hours to scour 12 carriages when the journey only lasts 45 minutes.
There is no room for the inspectors to move along the carriages during rush hour - it would be virtually impossible. Trry travelling from Limehouse between 6 and 6.30 and you'll see what I mean! Sardines have it easy in comparison....
That's exactly what I do every day. What I'm saying is that it's impossible to get in and out of the barriers at Fenchurch Street during peak times without a ticket, therefore it stands to reason that all commuters must have valid tickets and it's only the rise-at-midday unemployed and late night partygoers that are the offenders.
Which is why at Basildon and Laindon tailgaters are in abundance. The dozy 'security' men do nothing about this. If I have to pay for my ticket why shouldnt others?
Have you ever thought of it the other way round? If others don't have to pay for their ticket why should you?

Do you believe in choice and responsibility for action?
[quote][p][bold]Abington86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feminism is Dead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feminism is Dead[/bold] wrote: Do inspectors actually go on rush hour trains? Aside from the fact that it's impossible to get out at Fenchurch Street without paying, it would take them hours to scour 12 carriages when the journey only lasts 45 minutes.[/p][/quote]There is no room for the inspectors to move along the carriages during rush hour - it would be virtually impossible. Trry travelling from Limehouse between 6 and 6.30 and you'll see what I mean! Sardines have it easy in comparison....[/p][/quote]That's exactly what I do every day. What I'm saying is that it's impossible to get in and out of the barriers at Fenchurch Street during peak times without a ticket, therefore it stands to reason that all commuters must have valid tickets and it's only the rise-at-midday unemployed and late night partygoers that are the offenders.[/p][/quote]Which is why at Basildon and Laindon tailgaters are in abundance. The dozy 'security' men do nothing about this. If I have to pay for my ticket why shouldnt others?[/p][/quote]Have you ever thought of it the other way round? If others don't have to pay for their ticket why should you? Do you believe in choice and responsibility for action? ThisYear
  • Score: 0

2:44pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Alekhine says...

ThisYear wrote:
Abington86 wrote:
Feminism is Dead wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
Feminism is Dead wrote: Do inspectors actually go on rush hour trains? Aside from the fact that it's impossible to get out at Fenchurch Street without paying, it would take them hours to scour 12 carriages when the journey only lasts 45 minutes.
There is no room for the inspectors to move along the carriages during rush hour - it would be virtually impossible. Trry travelling from Limehouse between 6 and 6.30 and you'll see what I mean! Sardines have it easy in comparison....
That's exactly what I do every day. What I'm saying is that it's impossible to get in and out of the barriers at Fenchurch Street during peak times without a ticket, therefore it stands to reason that all commuters must have valid tickets and it's only the rise-at-midday unemployed and late night partygoers that are the offenders.
Which is why at Basildon and Laindon tailgaters are in abundance. The dozy 'security' men do nothing about this. If I have to pay for my ticket why shouldnt others?
Have you ever thought of it the other way round? If others don't have to pay for their ticket why should you? Do you believe in choice and responsibility for action?
Brilliant!

But how are all the commuters going to get to work after the railway has gone into liquidation?
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abington86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feminism is Dead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feminism is Dead[/bold] wrote: Do inspectors actually go on rush hour trains? Aside from the fact that it's impossible to get out at Fenchurch Street without paying, it would take them hours to scour 12 carriages when the journey only lasts 45 minutes.[/p][/quote]There is no room for the inspectors to move along the carriages during rush hour - it would be virtually impossible. Trry travelling from Limehouse between 6 and 6.30 and you'll see what I mean! Sardines have it easy in comparison....[/p][/quote]That's exactly what I do every day. What I'm saying is that it's impossible to get in and out of the barriers at Fenchurch Street during peak times without a ticket, therefore it stands to reason that all commuters must have valid tickets and it's only the rise-at-midday unemployed and late night partygoers that are the offenders.[/p][/quote]Which is why at Basildon and Laindon tailgaters are in abundance. The dozy 'security' men do nothing about this. If I have to pay for my ticket why shouldnt others?[/p][/quote]Have you ever thought of it the other way round? If others don't have to pay for their ticket why should you? Do you believe in choice and responsibility for action?[/p][/quote]Brilliant! But how are all the commuters going to get to work after the railway has gone into liquidation? Alekhine
  • Score: 0

1:17am Tue 15 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

Alekhine wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Abington86 wrote:
Feminism is Dead wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
Feminism is Dead wrote: Do inspectors actually go on rush hour trains? Aside from the fact that it's impossible to get out at Fenchurch Street without paying, it would take them hours to scour 12 carriages when the journey only lasts 45 minutes.
There is no room for the inspectors to move along the carriages during rush hour - it would be virtually impossible. Trry travelling from Limehouse between 6 and 6.30 and you'll see what I mean! Sardines have it easy in comparison....
That's exactly what I do every day. What I'm saying is that it's impossible to get in and out of the barriers at Fenchurch Street during peak times without a ticket, therefore it stands to reason that all commuters must have valid tickets and it's only the rise-at-midday unemployed and late night partygoers that are the offenders.
Which is why at Basildon and Laindon tailgaters are in abundance. The dozy 'security' men do nothing about this. If I have to pay for my ticket why shouldnt others?
Have you ever thought of it the other way round? If others don't have to pay for their ticket why should you? Do you believe in choice and responsibility for action?
Brilliant!

But how are all the commuters going to get to work after the railway has gone into liquidation?
How did they get to work before trains?

And why would they go into liquidation anyway?
[quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abington86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feminism is Dead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feminism is Dead[/bold] wrote: Do inspectors actually go on rush hour trains? Aside from the fact that it's impossible to get out at Fenchurch Street without paying, it would take them hours to scour 12 carriages when the journey only lasts 45 minutes.[/p][/quote]There is no room for the inspectors to move along the carriages during rush hour - it would be virtually impossible. Trry travelling from Limehouse between 6 and 6.30 and you'll see what I mean! Sardines have it easy in comparison....[/p][/quote]That's exactly what I do every day. What I'm saying is that it's impossible to get in and out of the barriers at Fenchurch Street during peak times without a ticket, therefore it stands to reason that all commuters must have valid tickets and it's only the rise-at-midday unemployed and late night partygoers that are the offenders.[/p][/quote]Which is why at Basildon and Laindon tailgaters are in abundance. The dozy 'security' men do nothing about this. If I have to pay for my ticket why shouldnt others?[/p][/quote]Have you ever thought of it the other way round? If others don't have to pay for their ticket why should you? Do you believe in choice and responsibility for action?[/p][/quote]Brilliant! But how are all the commuters going to get to work after the railway has gone into liquidation?[/p][/quote]How did they get to work before trains? And why would they go into liquidation anyway? ThisYear
  • Score: 0

1:08pm Tue 15 Apr 14

EssexMan007 says...

Eastwoodian wrote:
'Our message is simple – fare evaders are risking a fine, and possibly prosecution. Already, 450 people have found out it just isn’t worth taking that risk'

Well, that would depend how long they had been avoiding paying prior to getting caught !! If it's been weeks or months, then a 20 quid fine won't exactly bother them too much
I suspect these 450 people cant believe c2c want to charge any £ to travel on their very over rated trains....I would argue that being punished by endless delays, overcrowded trains & the never ending "this train is running 4 hours late, c2c are not sorry for this delay" automated messages ....is a high enough price to pay !!
[quote][p][bold]Eastwoodian[/bold] wrote: 'Our message is simple – fare evaders are risking a fine, and possibly prosecution. Already, 450 people have found out it just isn’t worth taking that risk' Well, that would depend how long they had been avoiding paying prior to getting caught !! If it's been weeks or months, then a 20 quid fine won't exactly bother them too much[/p][/quote]I suspect these 450 people cant believe c2c want to charge any £ to travel on their very over rated trains....I would argue that being punished by endless delays, overcrowded trains & the never ending "this train is running 4 hours late, c2c are not sorry for this delay" automated messages ....is a high enough price to pay !! EssexMan007
  • Score: 1

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