Call to close illegal car wash

Echo: London Road Car Wash in Leigh London Road Car Wash in Leigh

AN ILLEGAL car wash looks set to be shut down amid claims of increased traffic and noise.

Planning officers have recommended Southend Council close the London Road Car Wash, on the corner of Cricketfield Grove and London Road, Leigh. It has no planning permission.

Officers claim an increase in cars visiting the site and the noise of vacuum cleaners and power washers disturb neighbours.

In a report to councillors, who will decide whether to shut the business down next Wednesday, case officer Neil Auger said: “It is considered the use of this car wash results in a significant intensification in the use of the land, especially in terms of vehicle movements on to and off the site.

“This, together with the use of vacuum cleaners and power washers, is deemed likely to impact detrimentally on the amenities of the neighbouring residential properties by reason of noise and disturbance.”

The owners may also be forced to take down a large yellow canopy, for which they have no planning permission, and bright yellow and red signs and banners advertising the service, as Mr Auger claims they are unsightly.

But Ray and Brian Blackburn, owners of the former car showroom and vehicle repair shop, deny they need planning permission as cars have always been washed on site and vehicles are still being sold there. They argue the use of the land has not changed.

The brothers have written to Mr Auger outlining the reasons and say they are waiting for a reply.

Bill Hunt, a consultant acting on behalf of the Blackburns, said: “It’s totally premature to consider closing us down. It’s unreasonable.

“It’s totally counter business.”

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9:03am Fri 9 Aug 13

AndyBSG says...

The Blackburn brothers clearly don't know how to play the game. No amount of appeals will help them but a little brown envelope full of cash will see their troubles go away... We all know how how the local council works!
The Blackburn brothers clearly don't know how to play the game. No amount of appeals will help them but a little brown envelope full of cash will see their troubles go away... We all know how how the local council works! AndyBSG

9:13am Fri 9 Aug 13

GlenEckett says...

Let them earn a living!
Let them earn a living! GlenEckett

9:35am Fri 9 Aug 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

I knew this would happen when it opened up, and theres another car wash in Leigh covered in unsightly signage, so its not the only place.
I knew this would happen when it opened up, and theres another car wash in Leigh covered in unsightly signage, so its not the only place. DogsMessInLeigh

9:46am Fri 9 Aug 13

ImSpaffington says...

i dont know about that one but ive never seen a carwash not staffed by turkish people
i dont know about that one but ive never seen a carwash not staffed by turkish people ImSpaffington

10:01am Fri 9 Aug 13

InTheKnowOk says...

Shame as these guys do a top job, far better than anywhere else I've been to.
Shame as these guys do a top job, far better than anywhere else I've been to. InTheKnowOk

10:13am Fri 9 Aug 13

Leighdweller says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
Shame as these guys do a top job, far better than anywhere else I've been to.
Agreed, they are much better than the one at the Grand.
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: Shame as these guys do a top job, far better than anywhere else I've been to.[/p][/quote]Agreed, they are much better than the one at the Grand. Leighdweller

10:15am Fri 9 Aug 13

the citizen says...

Car Wash = power washers and vacuum cleaners, employment, business tax, rates, local service etc
Garage = air power tools, grinders, revving engines plus vacuum cleaners,washers, employment, business rates etc
Surely this works on the same basis as the airport. If you live near an airport you get noise - even if that airport has not been run commercially for years but now is. It's an airport.
If you live near a car garage you get noise related to that trade. It's garage! What is there to complain about. If the councils response to airport noise is "What do you expect?" Then the same should be for a commercial garage.
Car Wash = power washers and vacuum cleaners, employment, business tax, rates, local service etc Garage = air power tools, grinders, revving engines plus vacuum cleaners,washers, employment, business rates etc Surely this works on the same basis as the airport. If you live near an airport you get noise - even if that airport has not been run commercially for years but now is. It's an airport. If you live near a car garage you get noise related to that trade. It's garage! What is there to complain about. If the councils response to airport noise is "What do you expect?" Then the same should be for a commercial garage. the citizen

10:17am Fri 9 Aug 13

InTheKnowOk says...

Just wondering what neighbours would be affected by the noise??
Just wondering what neighbours would be affected by the noise?? InTheKnowOk

11:58am Fri 9 Aug 13

stopmoaning1 says...

It doesn’t matter how much noise or congestion there is, if a ‘business’ is trading illegally or outside any permissions, it should be closed. ANY business, not just this one.
And planning permission should be sought if required for any alterations on any premises, both commercial and residential.
I don’t doubt had they applied for the correct permissions BEFORE changing the business and erecting the new sign, it would have all been approved.
This seems like another example of our society where people just don’t care about rules or others around them and think they can just go ahead and do as they please.
It doesn’t matter how much noise or congestion there is, if a ‘business’ is trading illegally or outside any permissions, it should be closed. ANY business, not just this one. And planning permission should be sought if required for any alterations on any premises, both commercial and residential. I don’t doubt had they applied for the correct permissions BEFORE changing the business and erecting the new sign, it would have all been approved. This seems like another example of our society where people just don’t care about rules or others around them and think they can just go ahead and do as they please. stopmoaning1

12:21pm Fri 9 Aug 13

Rochford Rob says...

Change the name to an Eastern European one.

Sorted.
Change the name to an Eastern European one. Sorted. Rochford Rob

12:48pm Fri 9 Aug 13

anon anon says...

my M8 'bob' goes there alot , they do a good job , but hes not a fan of water
my M8 'bob' goes there alot , they do a good job , but hes not a fan of water anon anon

1:51pm Fri 9 Aug 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

ImSpaffington wrote:
i dont know about that one but ive never seen a carwash not staffed by turkish people
Go back 10 years and over and it was all English car washers in the places.
[quote][p][bold]ImSpaffington[/bold] wrote: i dont know about that one but ive never seen a carwash not staffed by turkish people[/p][/quote]Go back 10 years and over and it was all English car washers in the places. DogsMessInLeigh

2:07pm Fri 9 Aug 13

Lordmountfield says...

Get the Inland Revenue down there, it's all non declared cash in hand
Get the Inland Revenue down there, it's all non declared cash in hand Lordmountfield

3:38pm Fri 9 Aug 13

pembury53 says...

I would have thought 'illegal' applied to all of them......... quick immigration check would probably prove me right.....
I would have thought 'illegal' applied to all of them......... quick immigration check would probably prove me right..... pembury53

3:44pm Fri 9 Aug 13

reptile says...

Where there is a legal car wash I do wish the council would make them put a screen around the front so that people walking by don't get the spay all over themselves.
Where there is a legal car wash I do wish the council would make them put a screen around the front so that people walking by don't get the spay all over themselves. reptile

4:07pm Fri 9 Aug 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

spey..?
spey..? DogsMessInLeigh

4:25pm Fri 9 Aug 13

runwellian says...

The problem with London ?Road Leigh is all the car showrooms using parking bays to sell their vehicles!

How many of the parked vehicles have insurance / MOT/ tax, so much for the law as there is no one around to check them.

Maybe the police could do a road check and find out how many of these vehicles are insured and tow away those that are not? Just because a car has a valid tax disc dos not mean it is insured, especially having changed ownership!

All the parking bays should be restricted to one hour and let the car sales find other space to sell their cars!

Our Council needs to deal with this issue first!
The problem with London ?Road Leigh is all the car showrooms using parking bays to sell their vehicles! How many of the parked vehicles have insurance / MOT/ tax, so much for the law as there is no one around to check them. Maybe the police could do a road check and find out how many of these vehicles are insured and tow away those that are not? Just because a car has a valid tax disc dos not mean it is insured, especially having changed ownership! All the parking bays should be restricted to one hour and let the car sales find other space to sell their cars! Our Council needs to deal with this issue first! runwellian

5:31pm Fri 9 Aug 13

Lordmountfield says...

runwellian wrote:
The problem with London ?Road Leigh is all the car showrooms using parking bays to sell their vehicles!

How many of the parked vehicles have insurance / MOT/ tax, so much for the law as there is no one around to check them.

Maybe the police could do a road check and find out how many of these vehicles are insured and tow away those that are not? Just because a car has a valid tax disc dos not mean it is insured, especially having changed ownership!

All the parking bays should be restricted to one hour and let the car sales find other space to sell their cars!

Our Council needs to deal with this issue first!
Why not grow a pair, go down there and speak to the owners....of these car sales premises.
[quote][p][bold]runwellian[/bold] wrote: The problem with London ?Road Leigh is all the car showrooms using parking bays to sell their vehicles! How many of the parked vehicles have insurance / MOT/ tax, so much for the law as there is no one around to check them. Maybe the police could do a road check and find out how many of these vehicles are insured and tow away those that are not? Just because a car has a valid tax disc dos not mean it is insured, especially having changed ownership! All the parking bays should be restricted to one hour and let the car sales find other space to sell their cars! Our Council needs to deal with this issue first![/p][/quote]Why not grow a pair, go down there and speak to the owners....of these car sales premises. Lordmountfield

8:52pm Fri 9 Aug 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

runwellian wrote:
The problem with London ?Road Leigh is all the car showrooms using parking bays to sell their vehicles!

How many of the parked vehicles have insurance / MOT/ tax, so much for the law as there is no one around to check them.

Maybe the police could do a road check and find out how many of these vehicles are insured and tow away those that are not? Just because a car has a valid tax disc dos not mean it is insured, especially having changed ownership!

All the parking bays should be restricted to one hour and let the car sales find other space to sell their cars!

Our Council needs to deal with this issue first!
did you not read my reply a couple of days back...? , so i will explain again.

Motor vehicles in a Motor dealers possession (for use/sale) will be insured under a motor vehicle insurance scheme where any motor vehicle in their custody and control will be covered, DVLA ANPR vans creep up and down London road and all side roads any untaxed vehicles get clamped and lifted, so 1 car is perfectly entitled to be parked for 1 hour. SO thats why they don't get towed for being uninsured..BUT having more than 1 vehicle for sale on the public highway with-in so many metres of each other would be an offence to which SBC can issue a court summons(whether they actually do or have only they know), you are correct that there are a few car garages that flout it all day long, many do get multiple tickets i see several on the same car.,,but nothing seems to deter it.
Enforcement parking officers are up and down most days., and most bays have restrictions, just a handful that have none.
You need to air your complaint with the council and not us.
[quote][p][bold]runwellian[/bold] wrote: The problem with London ?Road Leigh is all the car showrooms using parking bays to sell their vehicles! How many of the parked vehicles have insurance / MOT/ tax, so much for the law as there is no one around to check them. Maybe the police could do a road check and find out how many of these vehicles are insured and tow away those that are not? Just because a car has a valid tax disc dos not mean it is insured, especially having changed ownership! All the parking bays should be restricted to one hour and let the car sales find other space to sell their cars! Our Council needs to deal with this issue first![/p][/quote]did you not read my reply a couple of days back...? , so i will explain again. Motor vehicles in a Motor dealers possession (for use/sale) will be insured under a motor vehicle insurance scheme where any motor vehicle in their custody and control will be covered, DVLA ANPR vans creep up and down London road and all side roads any untaxed vehicles get clamped and lifted, so 1 car is perfectly entitled to be parked for 1 hour. SO thats why they don't get towed for being uninsured..BUT having more than 1 vehicle for sale on the public highway with-in so many metres of each other would be an offence to which SBC can issue a court summons(whether they actually do or have only they know), you are correct that there are a few car garages that flout it all day long, many do get multiple tickets i see several on the same car.,,but nothing seems to deter it. Enforcement parking officers are up and down most days., and most bays have restrictions, just a handful that have none. You need to air your complaint with the council and not us. DogsMessInLeigh

12:18am Sat 10 Aug 13

quick one says...

Rochford Rob wrote:
Change the name to an Eastern European one.

Sorted.
HEAR HEAR WELL SAID THAT MAN THEY ALL GET AWAY WITH IT ...
[quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: Change the name to an Eastern European one. Sorted.[/p][/quote]HEAR HEAR WELL SAID THAT MAN THEY ALL GET AWAY WITH IT ... quick one

8:28pm Sat 10 Aug 13

rude boy says...

It's on a main rd n hardly any houses nr by there n it's not like its open all night
It's on a main rd n hardly any houses nr by there n it's not like its open all night rude boy

9:36pm Sat 10 Aug 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

It is open evenings...go past and they are still there sitting on chairs in the garage part, it don't look that busy too much.
Theres Homes adjoining it and flats directly opposite in cricketfeild grove, why don't these foreign operated places ever apply for planning first and try to fit it instead of swamping places in goudy flags/banners etc...do things correctly in the UK and not like back in eastern europe, then they should be ok.
It is open evenings...go past and they are still there sitting on chairs in the garage part, it don't look that busy too much. Theres Homes adjoining it and flats directly opposite in cricketfeild grove, why don't these foreign operated places ever apply for planning first and try to fit it instead of swamping places in goudy flags/banners etc...do things correctly in the UK and not like back in eastern europe, then they should be ok. DogsMessInLeigh

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