Drink driving campaign launched in Essex

Echo: Police ready to catch Christmas drink drivers Police ready to catch Christmas drink drivers

POLICE forces have teamed up with a specialist car manufacturer to catch drink drivers during the Christmas period.
 

Essex Police is joining forces with five others to present a united cross border front in the battle against those who risk their and other people’s lives by driving drunk.
 

Squads will be patrolling the roads stopping and breathalysing as many people as possible throughout the day and night.
 

Chief Inspector Rachel Nolan said: "Essex Police’s message is to plan in advance how you are going to get home after a night out.
 

“If you intend to drink alcohol, leave the car at home and take public transport or pre book a taxi.
 

“If you are going out in a group, nominate a designated driver who will only drink soft drinks for the evening.
 

“Think about the consequences.
 

“Losing your licence means not only being unable to drive but could mean losing your job and then unable to pay your bills, not to mention the risk of being involved in an accident.”
 

The six forces have reinforced their joint stance by coming together with campaign partner Lotus Cars.
 

Lotus is working with the region’s police by providing a Lotus Evora S to help officers engage with drivers and spread the word about the fatal four driving behaviours - drink driving, speeding, no seatbelts and using mobile phones while behind the wheel.
 

The Evora will be used to engage and educate drivers and road users of all ages rather than as a regular patrol vehicle.
 

Aslam Farikullah, Chief Operating Officer for Group Lotus plc, said: “We build cars for people to enjoy driving safely so we are happy to be part of this initiative and hope that strong action like this saves lives and keeps our roads safe for everyone.”
 

Essex Police is working with forces in Norfolk, Suffolk, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire and Cambridgeshire on road safety.

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9:34am Tue 10 Dec 13

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

The scourge brought on the lives of others by the drunk driver, cannot be loathed highly enough, those worthless and miserable drink drivers need to be sent to prison.
In reality they will lose their licence get whacked with very high insurance premiums, and enjoy learning the bus routes, with neighbours asking
"don't you drive anymore"....says it all .
The scourge brought on the lives of others by the drunk driver, cannot be loathed highly enough, those worthless and miserable drink drivers need to be sent to prison. In reality they will lose their licence get whacked with very high insurance premiums, and enjoy learning the bus routes, with neighbours asking "don't you drive anymore"....says it all . Nowthatsworthknowing

9:45am Tue 10 Dec 13

InTheKnowOk says...

Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
The scourge brought on the lives of others by the drunk driver, cannot be loathed highly enough, those worthless and miserable drink drivers need to be sent to prison.
In reality they will lose their licence get whacked with very high insurance premiums, and enjoy learning the bus routes, with neighbours asking
"don't you drive anymore"....says it all .
Yeh, I put them in the same bracket as those miserable worthless druggies who get behind the wheel of a car whilst stoned ... Same thing isn't it ..
[quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: The scourge brought on the lives of others by the drunk driver, cannot be loathed highly enough, those worthless and miserable drink drivers need to be sent to prison. In reality they will lose their licence get whacked with very high insurance premiums, and enjoy learning the bus routes, with neighbours asking "don't you drive anymore"....says it all .[/p][/quote]Yeh, I put them in the same bracket as those miserable worthless druggies who get behind the wheel of a car whilst stoned ... Same thing isn't it .. InTheKnowOk

9:47am Tue 10 Dec 13

InTheKnowOk says...

Let's hope they catch a few stoners as well during this campaign !!
Let's hope they catch a few stoners as well during this campaign !! InTheKnowOk

10:05am Tue 10 Dec 13

Test Tickle says...

The story gives the impression that the Police will be stopping vehicles with the sole intention of performing random breathalyser tests, they are not allowed to do this as they have to have reasonable cause, i.e they suspect you of having been drinking or you have committed a road traffic offence or been involved in an accident, personally I think the Police should be able to breathalyse anyone at any time but sadly this is not the case at present.

Drink drivers are a scourge along with those that use their mobile phones whilst driving, not to mention the generally low standards of driving these days, jail time should be given to those who are caught!
The story gives the impression that the Police will be stopping vehicles with the sole intention of performing random breathalyser tests, they are not allowed to do this as they have to have reasonable cause, i.e they suspect you of having been drinking or you have committed a road traffic offence or been involved in an accident, personally I think the Police should be able to breathalyse anyone at any time but sadly this is not the case at present. Drink drivers are a scourge along with those that use their mobile phones whilst driving, not to mention the generally low standards of driving these days, jail time should be given to those who are caught! Test Tickle

10:10am Tue 10 Dec 13

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

Test Tickle wrote:
The story gives the impression that the Police will be stopping vehicles with the sole intention of performing random breathalyser tests, they are not allowed to do this as they have to have reasonable cause, i.e they suspect you of having been drinking or you have committed a road traffic offence or been involved in an accident, personally I think the Police should be able to breathalyse anyone at any time but sadly this is not the case at present.

Drink drivers are a scourge along with those that use their mobile phones whilst driving, not to mention the generally low standards of driving these days, jail time should be given to those who are caught!
Don't ever lessen the seriousness of drink driving, as for the reason for a stop, could be one of a thousand, to smell that intoxicating liquor upon the breath of the driver, the glazed eyes, the slurred speech............
[quote][p][bold]Test Tickle[/bold] wrote: The story gives the impression that the Police will be stopping vehicles with the sole intention of performing random breathalyser tests, they are not allowed to do this as they have to have reasonable cause, i.e they suspect you of having been drinking or you have committed a road traffic offence or been involved in an accident, personally I think the Police should be able to breathalyse anyone at any time but sadly this is not the case at present. Drink drivers are a scourge along with those that use their mobile phones whilst driving, not to mention the generally low standards of driving these days, jail time should be given to those who are caught![/p][/quote]Don't ever lessen the seriousness of drink driving, as for the reason for a stop, could be one of a thousand, to smell that intoxicating liquor upon the breath of the driver, the glazed eyes, the slurred speech............ Nowthatsworthknowing

10:20am Tue 10 Dec 13

Test Tickle says...

Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
Test Tickle wrote:
The story gives the impression that the Police will be stopping vehicles with the sole intention of performing random breathalyser tests, they are not allowed to do this as they have to have reasonable cause, i.e they suspect you of having been drinking or you have committed a road traffic offence or been involved in an accident, personally I think the Police should be able to breathalyse anyone at any time but sadly this is not the case at present.

Drink drivers are a scourge along with those that use their mobile phones whilst driving, not to mention the generally low standards of driving these days, jail time should be given to those who are caught!
Don't ever lessen the seriousness of drink driving, as for the reason for a stop, could be one of a thousand, to smell that intoxicating liquor upon the breath of the driver, the glazed eyes, the slurred speech............
Did I lessen the seriousness of drink driving? certainly not my intention, I fully support the Police in this matter, I would just hate to see anyone get away with drink driving on a technicality due to a keen eyed solicitor.
[quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Test Tickle[/bold] wrote: The story gives the impression that the Police will be stopping vehicles with the sole intention of performing random breathalyser tests, they are not allowed to do this as they have to have reasonable cause, i.e they suspect you of having been drinking or you have committed a road traffic offence or been involved in an accident, personally I think the Police should be able to breathalyse anyone at any time but sadly this is not the case at present. Drink drivers are a scourge along with those that use their mobile phones whilst driving, not to mention the generally low standards of driving these days, jail time should be given to those who are caught![/p][/quote]Don't ever lessen the seriousness of drink driving, as for the reason for a stop, could be one of a thousand, to smell that intoxicating liquor upon the breath of the driver, the glazed eyes, the slurred speech............[/p][/quote]Did I lessen the seriousness of drink driving? certainly not my intention, I fully support the Police in this matter, I would just hate to see anyone get away with drink driving on a technicality due to a keen eyed solicitor. Test Tickle

10:21am Tue 10 Dec 13

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

Test Tickle wrote:
Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
Test Tickle wrote:
The story gives the impression that the Police will be stopping vehicles with the sole intention of performing random breathalyser tests, they are not allowed to do this as they have to have reasonable cause, i.e they suspect you of having been drinking or you have committed a road traffic offence or been involved in an accident, personally I think the Police should be able to breathalyse anyone at any time but sadly this is not the case at present.

Drink drivers are a scourge along with those that use their mobile phones whilst driving, not to mention the generally low standards of driving these days, jail time should be given to those who are caught!
Don't ever lessen the seriousness of drink driving, as for the reason for a stop, could be one of a thousand, to smell that intoxicating liquor upon the breath of the driver, the glazed eyes, the slurred speech............
Did I lessen the seriousness of drink driving? certainly not my intention, I fully support the Police in this matter, I would just hate to see anyone get away with drink driving on a technicality due to a keen eyed solicitor.
If someone blows over the limit that's it FINITO...
[quote][p][bold]Test Tickle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Test Tickle[/bold] wrote: The story gives the impression that the Police will be stopping vehicles with the sole intention of performing random breathalyser tests, they are not allowed to do this as they have to have reasonable cause, i.e they suspect you of having been drinking or you have committed a road traffic offence or been involved in an accident, personally I think the Police should be able to breathalyse anyone at any time but sadly this is not the case at present. Drink drivers are a scourge along with those that use their mobile phones whilst driving, not to mention the generally low standards of driving these days, jail time should be given to those who are caught![/p][/quote]Don't ever lessen the seriousness of drink driving, as for the reason for a stop, could be one of a thousand, to smell that intoxicating liquor upon the breath of the driver, the glazed eyes, the slurred speech............[/p][/quote]Did I lessen the seriousness of drink driving? certainly not my intention, I fully support the Police in this matter, I would just hate to see anyone get away with drink driving on a technicality due to a keen eyed solicitor.[/p][/quote]If someone blows over the limit that's it FINITO... Nowthatsworthknowing

10:30am Tue 10 Dec 13

Rochford Rob says...

The majority of drivers involved in accidents are actually sober.

Makes you wonder eh?
The majority of drivers involved in accidents are actually sober. Makes you wonder eh? Rochford Rob

11:24am Tue 10 Dec 13

Scoot says...

Theres plenty of excuses for pulling over a large number of drivers. There seems to be a large number with one headlight working on the roads at present. Theres also a large number driving with front fog lamps on when visibility is greater than 20m (another offence), plenty getting into the right hand lane and then turning left at the Colchester end of Clinghoe hill (despite numerous road markings/ signs), not indicating etc etc etc. Hopefully the police will catch a few and if you get stopped and haven't been drinking then just accept the reason you have been stopped in good grace. However it would be interesting to know what proportion of motorcyclists get stopped compared to cars and what percentage of them are over the limit.
Theres plenty of excuses for pulling over a large number of drivers. There seems to be a large number with one headlight working on the roads at present. Theres also a large number driving with front fog lamps on when visibility is greater than 20m (another offence), plenty getting into the right hand lane and then turning left at the Colchester end of Clinghoe hill (despite numerous road markings/ signs), not indicating etc etc etc. Hopefully the police will catch a few and if you get stopped and haven't been drinking then just accept the reason you have been stopped in good grace. However it would be interesting to know what proportion of motorcyclists get stopped compared to cars and what percentage of them are over the limit. Scoot

11:30am Tue 10 Dec 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
Test Tickle wrote:
Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
Test Tickle wrote:
The story gives the impression that the Police will be stopping vehicles with the sole intention of performing random breathalyser tests, they are not allowed to do this as they have to have reasonable cause, i.e they suspect you of having been drinking or you have committed a road traffic offence or been involved in an accident, personally I think the Police should be able to breathalyse anyone at any time but sadly this is not the case at present.

Drink drivers are a scourge along with those that use their mobile phones whilst driving, not to mention the generally low standards of driving these days, jail time should be given to those who are caught!
Don't ever lessen the seriousness of drink driving, as for the reason for a stop, could be one of a thousand, to smell that intoxicating liquor upon the breath of the driver, the glazed eyes, the slurred speech............
Did I lessen the seriousness of drink driving? certainly not my intention, I fully support the Police in this matter, I would just hate to see anyone get away with drink driving on a technicality due to a keen eyed solicitor.
If someone blows over the limit that's it FINITO...
No necessarily Finito.,....it will go on how they blow back at the station.

don't forget the morning after, still in your system and any traffic accident where the police get involved and you could be facing a Breath test even if you are not pi$$ed.
[quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Test Tickle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Test Tickle[/bold] wrote: The story gives the impression that the Police will be stopping vehicles with the sole intention of performing random breathalyser tests, they are not allowed to do this as they have to have reasonable cause, i.e they suspect you of having been drinking or you have committed a road traffic offence or been involved in an accident, personally I think the Police should be able to breathalyse anyone at any time but sadly this is not the case at present. Drink drivers are a scourge along with those that use their mobile phones whilst driving, not to mention the generally low standards of driving these days, jail time should be given to those who are caught![/p][/quote]Don't ever lessen the seriousness of drink driving, as for the reason for a stop, could be one of a thousand, to smell that intoxicating liquor upon the breath of the driver, the glazed eyes, the slurred speech............[/p][/quote]Did I lessen the seriousness of drink driving? certainly not my intention, I fully support the Police in this matter, I would just hate to see anyone get away with drink driving on a technicality due to a keen eyed solicitor.[/p][/quote]If someone blows over the limit that's it FINITO...[/p][/quote]No necessarily Finito.,....it will go on how they blow back at the station. don't forget the morning after, still in your system and any traffic accident where the police get involved and you could be facing a Breath test even if you are not pi$$ed. DogsMessInLeigh

12:07pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Howard Cháse says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
The scourge brought on the lives of others by the drunk driver, cannot be loathed highly enough, those worthless and miserable drink drivers need to be sent to prison.
In reality they will lose their licence get whacked with very high insurance premiums, and enjoy learning the bus routes, with neighbours asking
"don't you drive anymore"....says it all .
Yeh, I put them in the same bracket as those miserable worthless druggies who get behind the wheel of a car whilst stoned ... Same thing isn't it ..
And the morons still seen drivng along with their phone glued to their ears like the woman yesterday on the school run along a traffic and pedestrian busy Ghyllgrove
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: The scourge brought on the lives of others by the drunk driver, cannot be loathed highly enough, those worthless and miserable drink drivers need to be sent to prison. In reality they will lose their licence get whacked with very high insurance premiums, and enjoy learning the bus routes, with neighbours asking "don't you drive anymore"....says it all .[/p][/quote]Yeh, I put them in the same bracket as those miserable worthless druggies who get behind the wheel of a car whilst stoned ... Same thing isn't it ..[/p][/quote]And the morons still seen drivng along with their phone glued to their ears like the woman yesterday on the school run along a traffic and pedestrian busy Ghyllgrove Howard Cháse

12:08pm Tue 10 Dec 13

bob7 says...

We need a hard hitting campaign like they have in Australia. There is a TV programme calle Booze Patrol showing their system of random alcohol and drug testing. Some have a poor attitude to drink/drug driving.
They will leave crashed cars at the side of the road and then put up banners about drink driving. They also show adverts like this. http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=Z2mf8DtWW
d8
Ne excuse for drink/drug driving or using mobiles at the wheel.
We need a hard hitting campaign like they have in Australia. There is a TV programme calle Booze Patrol showing their system of random alcohol and drug testing. Some have a poor attitude to drink/drug driving. They will leave crashed cars at the side of the road and then put up banners about drink driving. They also show adverts like this. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=Z2mf8DtWW d8 Ne excuse for drink/drug driving or using mobiles at the wheel. bob7

12:14pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
Test Tickle wrote:
Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
Test Tickle wrote:
The story gives the impression that the Police will be stopping vehicles with the sole intention of performing random breathalyser tests, they are not allowed to do this as they have to have reasonable cause, i.e they suspect you of having been drinking or you have committed a road traffic offence or been involved in an accident, personally I think the Police should be able to breathalyse anyone at any time but sadly this is not the case at present.

Drink drivers are a scourge along with those that use their mobile phones whilst driving, not to mention the generally low standards of driving these days, jail time should be given to those who are caught!
Don't ever lessen the seriousness of drink driving, as for the reason for a stop, could be one of a thousand, to smell that intoxicating liquor upon the breath of the driver, the glazed eyes, the slurred speech............
Did I lessen the seriousness of drink driving? certainly not my intention, I fully support the Police in this matter, I would just hate to see anyone get away with drink driving on a technicality due to a keen eyed solicitor.
If someone blows over the limit that's it FINITO...
No necessarily Finito.,....it will go on how they blow back at the station.

don't forget the morning after, still in your system and any traffic accident where the police get involved and you could be facing a Breath test even if you are not pi$$ed.
I was talking about, back at the nick, the Drager hand held is just used out on the road....
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Test Tickle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Test Tickle[/bold] wrote: The story gives the impression that the Police will be stopping vehicles with the sole intention of performing random breathalyser tests, they are not allowed to do this as they have to have reasonable cause, i.e they suspect you of having been drinking or you have committed a road traffic offence or been involved in an accident, personally I think the Police should be able to breathalyse anyone at any time but sadly this is not the case at present. Drink drivers are a scourge along with those that use their mobile phones whilst driving, not to mention the generally low standards of driving these days, jail time should be given to those who are caught![/p][/quote]Don't ever lessen the seriousness of drink driving, as for the reason for a stop, could be one of a thousand, to smell that intoxicating liquor upon the breath of the driver, the glazed eyes, the slurred speech............[/p][/quote]Did I lessen the seriousness of drink driving? certainly not my intention, I fully support the Police in this matter, I would just hate to see anyone get away with drink driving on a technicality due to a keen eyed solicitor.[/p][/quote]If someone blows over the limit that's it FINITO...[/p][/quote]No necessarily Finito.,....it will go on how they blow back at the station. don't forget the morning after, still in your system and any traffic accident where the police get involved and you could be facing a Breath test even if you are not pi$$ed.[/p][/quote]I was talking about, back at the nick, the Drager hand held is just used out on the road.... Nowthatsworthknowing

12:17pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Kim Gandy says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
The scourge brought on the lives of others by the drunk driver, cannot be loathed highly enough, those worthless and miserable drink drivers need to be sent to prison.
In reality they will lose their licence get whacked with very high insurance premiums, and enjoy learning the bus routes, with neighbours asking
"don't you drive anymore"....says it all .
Yeh, I put them in the same bracket as those miserable worthless druggies who get behind the wheel of a car whilst stoned ... Same thing isn't it ..
Good point!
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: The scourge brought on the lives of others by the drunk driver, cannot be loathed highly enough, those worthless and miserable drink drivers need to be sent to prison. In reality they will lose their licence get whacked with very high insurance premiums, and enjoy learning the bus routes, with neighbours asking "don't you drive anymore"....says it all .[/p][/quote]Yeh, I put them in the same bracket as those miserable worthless druggies who get behind the wheel of a car whilst stoned ... Same thing isn't it ..[/p][/quote]Good point! Kim Gandy

12:18pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Kim Gandy says...

!!**** U!! wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
Let's hope they catch a few stoners as well during this campaign !!
Driving stoned is actually safer then driving sober. People drive slower and concentrate MORE. I agree that drink driving is dangerous, but driving stoned be perfectly legal. I'm not a stoner, but I have had an occasional spliff or two then drove, and it slowed me down and improved my awareness of what's going on around me. On the other hand, if you drink and drive, don't get caught!
Cobblers
[quote][p][bold]!!**** U!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: Let's hope they catch a few stoners as well during this campaign !![/p][/quote]Driving stoned is actually safer then driving sober. People drive slower and concentrate MORE. I agree that drink driving is dangerous, but driving stoned be perfectly legal. I'm not a stoner, but I have had an occasional spliff or two then drove, and it slowed me down and improved my awareness of what's going on around me. On the other hand, if you drink and drive, don't get caught![/p][/quote]Cobblers Kim Gandy

12:20pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Kim Gandy says...

!!**** U!! wrote:
Scoot wrote:
Theres plenty of excuses for pulling over a large number of drivers. There seems to be a large number with one headlight working on the roads at present. Theres also a large number driving with front fog lamps on when visibility is greater than 20m (another offence), plenty getting into the right hand lane and then turning left at the Colchester end of Clinghoe hill (despite numerous road markings/ signs), not indicating etc etc etc. Hopefully the police will catch a few and if you get stopped and haven't been drinking then just accept the reason you have been stopped in good grace. However it would be interesting to know what proportion of motorcyclists get stopped compared to cars and what percentage of them are over the limit.
I think if you ride a motorbike drunk, you truly have a deathwish. The best thing to do is cycle home drunk after a night out. Better then paying cab fares etc. Thats what I do anyway. If its raining then I usually chance the drink drive home. I don't tend to collect many police cars up on my way home. And there's no real reason for them to pull me. Lights work, I always indicate etc. I find I actually drive better under the influence.
Your username tells us everything we need to know about you
[quote][p][bold]!!**** U!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scoot[/bold] wrote: Theres plenty of excuses for pulling over a large number of drivers. There seems to be a large number with one headlight working on the roads at present. Theres also a large number driving with front fog lamps on when visibility is greater than 20m (another offence), plenty getting into the right hand lane and then turning left at the Colchester end of Clinghoe hill (despite numerous road markings/ signs), not indicating etc etc etc. Hopefully the police will catch a few and if you get stopped and haven't been drinking then just accept the reason you have been stopped in good grace. However it would be interesting to know what proportion of motorcyclists get stopped compared to cars and what percentage of them are over the limit.[/p][/quote]I think if you ride a motorbike drunk, you truly have a deathwish. The best thing to do is cycle home drunk after a night out. Better then paying cab fares etc. Thats what I do anyway. If its raining then I usually chance the drink drive home. I don't tend to collect many police cars up on my way home. And there's no real reason for them to pull me. Lights work, I always indicate etc. I find I actually drive better under the influence.[/p][/quote]Your username tells us everything we need to know about you Kim Gandy

12:22pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Kim Gandy says...

Makes me laugh when hear "I'm going to get rat @rsed tonight, off my face. I'm going to enjoy myself...

yeah enjoy it, the feeling of being out of control and vulnerable to any nutter, rapist or mugger, enjoy showing yourself up in front of loads of people, enjoy rolling about in the gutter ...and of course there's the piece de resistance... puking up in the back of a minicab.

Yep, Christmas is a great excuse to make a total plonker of yourself isn't it.
Makes me laugh when hear "I'm going to get rat @rsed tonight, off my face. I'm going to enjoy myself... yeah enjoy it, the feeling of being out of control and vulnerable to any nutter, rapist or mugger, enjoy showing yourself up in front of loads of people, enjoy rolling about in the gutter ...and of course there's the piece de resistance... puking up in the back of a minicab. Yep, Christmas is a great excuse to make a total plonker of yourself isn't it. Kim Gandy

1:55pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Nelly99 says...

Test Tickle: In theory the police need a reason to stop you but in reality they can stop whoever they like. I was stopped not long ago and the guy said,"It's just a routine check, sir". And Howard Chase has a good point about mobile phones but forgets that those people using them have a special dispensation because the law doesn't apply to them! As for the drink drive limit...ridiculous. If you are going to drive you shouldn't have ANY alcohol.
Test Tickle: In theory the police need a reason to stop you but in reality they can stop whoever they like. I was stopped not long ago and the guy said,"It's just a routine check, sir". And Howard Chase has a good point about mobile phones but forgets that those people using them have a special dispensation because the law doesn't apply to them! As for the drink drive limit...ridiculous. If you are going to drive you shouldn't have ANY alcohol. Nelly99

2:16pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Scoot says...

Kim, sorry you've lost me....I met someone in a pub a few years ago who when I asked him how he was going to get from the station to home he said it was ok because he was on his motorbike and the police only stop cars. I was therefore wondering how many motorcyclists get stopped and checked. I bet if the police stopped an equal amount of riders coming out of the stations in the evenings as cars they may find that there are some who drink and ride in about the same proportion to drink and drive. If you ask the speed camera team how many motorcyclists are done for speeding each year they claim its information not available to the public, but how is it you can be travelling in a 30 or 40 close to the speed limit and the vast majority of vehicles overtaking you are motorbikes breaking the speed limit. Motorcyclists are not saints, and there will be some out there flouting the drink drive/ride laws.
Kim, sorry you've lost me....I met someone in a pub a few years ago who when I asked him how he was going to get from the station to home he said it was ok because he was on his motorbike and the police only stop cars. I was therefore wondering how many motorcyclists get stopped and checked. I bet if the police stopped an equal amount of riders coming out of the stations in the evenings as cars they may find that there are some who drink and ride in about the same proportion to drink and drive. If you ask the speed camera team how many motorcyclists are done for speeding each year they claim its information not available to the public, but how is it you can be travelling in a 30 or 40 close to the speed limit and the vast majority of vehicles overtaking you are motorbikes breaking the speed limit. Motorcyclists are not saints, and there will be some out there flouting the drink drive/ride laws. Scoot

2:52pm Tue 10 Dec 13

pembury53 says...

Howard Cháse wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
Nowthatsworthknowing wrote: The scourge brought on the lives of others by the drunk driver, cannot be loathed highly enough, those worthless and miserable drink drivers need to be sent to prison. In reality they will lose their licence get whacked with very high insurance premiums, and enjoy learning the bus routes, with neighbours asking "don't you drive anymore"....says it all .
Yeh, I put them in the same bracket as those miserable worthless druggies who get behind the wheel of a car whilst stoned ... Same thing isn't it ..
And the morons still seen drivng along with their phone glued to their ears like the woman yesterday on the school run along a traffic and pedestrian busy Ghyllgrove
mobile phone use is worse and far more widespread.... why not a campaign against that
[quote][p][bold]Howard Cháse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: The scourge brought on the lives of others by the drunk driver, cannot be loathed highly enough, those worthless and miserable drink drivers need to be sent to prison. In reality they will lose their licence get whacked with very high insurance premiums, and enjoy learning the bus routes, with neighbours asking "don't you drive anymore"....says it all .[/p][/quote]Yeh, I put them in the same bracket as those miserable worthless druggies who get behind the wheel of a car whilst stoned ... Same thing isn't it ..[/p][/quote]And the morons still seen drivng along with their phone glued to their ears like the woman yesterday on the school run along a traffic and pedestrian busy Ghyllgrove[/p][/quote]mobile phone use is worse and far more widespread.... why not a campaign against that pembury53

3:14pm Tue 10 Dec 13

smiffy22 says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Makes me laugh when hear "I'm going to get rat @rsed tonight, off my face. I'm going to enjoy myself...

yeah enjoy it, the feeling of being out of control and vulnerable to any nutter, rapist or mugger, enjoy showing yourself up in front of loads of people, enjoy rolling about in the gutter ...and of course there's the piece de resistance... puking up in the back of a minicab.

Yep, Christmas is a great excuse to make a total plonker of yourself isn't it.
It is the way of the British prols.
Sadly.
Regards,
Smiffy22
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: Makes me laugh when hear "I'm going to get rat @rsed tonight, off my face. I'm going to enjoy myself... yeah enjoy it, the feeling of being out of control and vulnerable to any nutter, rapist or mugger, enjoy showing yourself up in front of loads of people, enjoy rolling about in the gutter ...and of course there's the piece de resistance... puking up in the back of a minicab. Yep, Christmas is a great excuse to make a total plonker of yourself isn't it.[/p][/quote]It is the way of the British prols. Sadly. Regards, Smiffy22 smiffy22

3:18pm Tue 10 Dec 13

smiffy22 says...

Rochford Rob wrote:
The majority of drivers involved in accidents are actually sober.

Makes you wonder eh?
About what?
Are you saying that alcohol makes no difference to driving ability?
Or that being drunk makes you a better driver?
Or that because alcohol isn't the cause of every crash it should be ignored?
Please clarify your meaning.
Regards,
Smiffy22
[quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: The majority of drivers involved in accidents are actually sober. Makes you wonder eh?[/p][/quote]About what? Are you saying that alcohol makes no difference to driving ability? Or that being drunk makes you a better driver? Or that because alcohol isn't the cause of every crash it should be ignored? Please clarify your meaning. Regards, Smiffy22 smiffy22

3:27pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Mikkel1 says...

Where I now live in Norfolk, we are lucky to see a single police car a week, UNLESS there is a crash, or some big-wig visiting the area, and the local police station is only open 5 days a week, and known to close for lunch. Duh!

I agree about motorcyclists speeding and NEVER get stopped, plus they tailgate cars and blame the driver if they hit the vehicle in front. Tailgating is now an offence, but WHERE are the cops cars that are reported by Norfolk's PCC, to be out on the roads 24/7? Certainly NOT round these parts. They MIGHT be out once a week, and that's IF we are lucky.
Where I now live in Norfolk, we are lucky to see a single police car a week, UNLESS there is a crash, or some big-wig visiting the area, and the local police station is only open 5 days a week, and known to close for lunch. Duh! I agree about motorcyclists speeding and NEVER get stopped, plus they tailgate cars and blame the driver if they hit the vehicle in front. Tailgating is now an offence, but WHERE are the cops cars that are reported by Norfolk's PCC, to be out on the roads 24/7? Certainly NOT round these parts. They MIGHT be out once a week, and that's IF we are lucky. Mikkel1

4:23pm Tue 10 Dec 13

landydave says...

They should set up a check on the bridge for people entering and leaving old Leigh. most of the people leaving by car will have had one too many and some of the residents are well known for having a few on the broadway and driving home.
They should set up a check on the bridge for people entering and leaving old Leigh. most of the people leaving by car will have had one too many and some of the residents are well known for having a few on the broadway and driving home. landydave

4:36pm Tue 10 Dec 13

jolllyboy says...

How about mobile users - are we allowed to name and shame - I saw some today i could name, companies should warn their employees.
How about mobile users - are we allowed to name and shame - I saw some today i could name, companies should warn their employees. jolllyboy

6:03pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Royr says...

!!**** U!! wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
Let's hope they catch a few stoners as well during this campaign !!
Driving stoned is actually safer then driving sober. People drive slower and concentrate MORE. I agree that drink driving is dangerous, but driving stoned be perfectly legal. I'm not a stoner, but I have had an occasional spliff or two then drove, and it slowed me down and improved my awareness of what's going on around me. On the other hand, if you drink and drive, don't get caught!
Drunk drivers also drive slower and concentrate more
[quote][p][bold]!!**** U!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: Let's hope they catch a few stoners as well during this campaign !![/p][/quote]Driving stoned is actually safer then driving sober. People drive slower and concentrate MORE. I agree that drink driving is dangerous, but driving stoned be perfectly legal. I'm not a stoner, but I have had an occasional spliff or two then drove, and it slowed me down and improved my awareness of what's going on around me. On the other hand, if you drink and drive, don't get caught![/p][/quote]Drunk drivers also drive slower and concentrate more Royr

6:38pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Nebs says...

bob7 wrote:
We need a hard hitting campaign like they have in Australia. There is a TV programme calle Booze Patrol showing their system of random alcohol and drug testing. Some have a poor attitude to drink/drug driving.
They will leave crashed cars at the side of the road and then put up banners about drink driving. They also show adverts like this. http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=Z2mf8DtWW

d8
Ne excuse for drink/drug driving or using mobiles at the wheel.
Great link, that is a brilliant advert.
[quote][p][bold]bob7[/bold] wrote: We need a hard hitting campaign like they have in Australia. There is a TV programme calle Booze Patrol showing their system of random alcohol and drug testing. Some have a poor attitude to drink/drug driving. They will leave crashed cars at the side of the road and then put up banners about drink driving. They also show adverts like this. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=Z2mf8DtWW d8 Ne excuse for drink/drug driving or using mobiles at the wheel.[/p][/quote]Great link, that is a brilliant advert. Nebs

9:57pm Tue 10 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

some of the more "interesting" comments on here come from someone on another planet !!
up till millenium night, I drove a minicab, my minicab.
I was driving my minicabs on a busy curcuit for 14 years.
I always worked over holiday periods so that you poor of your faced tw&ts got home.
the most amusing time over christmas and new years was about 1-30 am till 2-0am
when all the merry visitors all decieded it was now late enough to take a chance and drive home, "as you wont get a cab at this hour anyway"
LOL.....
SO easy to spot a cheery drunk driver at 2am, driving slowly as not to get noticed, windows open to get a "bit of fresh air" despite it being below freezing outside, wifey or passenger in an ageted conversation with those in the back getting a lift home coz hubby has only had just one or two, maybe four of five, but its so late - no one about....FOOLS...

while your hard working cabby is just praying that those girls you just picked up are not making those tell tale signs of hoop hoop noises just before a multi coloured yawn emitts from its faced off drunk passengers,
thus stopping you from working - deserting pasengers - costing hundreds in lost earnings with cab office bills still need paying..

OH HOW I MISS THAT TIME OF YEAR......ha..ha.ha.
...
after 14 years I just walked away from drunks, druggies, pimps, protitutes, a$$holes, and nutters,
but its the genuine most nicest people that I cabbed about I miss the most, bless them ..
TANGO 12 then 22E says Happy Christmas and new years guys..
some of the more "interesting" comments on here come from someone on another planet !! up till millenium night, I drove a minicab, my minicab. I was driving my minicabs on a busy curcuit for 14 years. I always worked over holiday periods so that you poor of your faced tw&ts got home. the most amusing time over christmas and new years was about 1-30 am till 2-0am when all the merry visitors all decieded it was now late enough to take a chance and drive home, "as you wont get a cab at this hour anyway" LOL..... SO easy to spot a cheery drunk driver at 2am, driving slowly as not to get noticed, windows open to get a "bit of fresh air" despite it being below freezing outside, wifey or passenger in an ageted conversation with those in the back getting a lift home coz hubby has only had just one or two, maybe four of five, but its so late - no one about....FOOLS... while your hard working cabby is just praying that those girls you just picked up are not making those tell tale signs of hoop hoop noises just before a multi coloured yawn emitts from its faced off drunk passengers, thus stopping you from working - deserting pasengers - costing hundreds in lost earnings with cab office bills still need paying.. OH HOW I MISS THAT TIME OF YEAR......ha..ha.ha. ... after 14 years I just walked away from drunks, druggies, pimps, protitutes, a$$holes, and nutters, but its the genuine most nicest people that I cabbed about I miss the most, bless them .. TANGO 12 then 22E says Happy Christmas and new years guys.. tomtheDJ

7:30am Wed 11 Dec 13

mikgrays says...

!!**** U!! wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
Let's hope they catch a few stoners as well during this campaign !!
Driving stoned is actually safer then driving sober. People drive slower and concentrate MORE. I agree that drink driving is dangerous, but driving stoned be perfectly legal. I'm not a stoner, but I have had an occasional spliff or two then drove, and it slowed me down and improved my awareness of what's going on around me. On the other hand, if you drink and drive, don't get caught!
That is absoluyely not true.
[quote][p][bold]!!**** U!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: Let's hope they catch a few stoners as well during this campaign !![/p][/quote]Driving stoned is actually safer then driving sober. People drive slower and concentrate MORE. I agree that drink driving is dangerous, but driving stoned be perfectly legal. I'm not a stoner, but I have had an occasional spliff or two then drove, and it slowed me down and improved my awareness of what's going on around me. On the other hand, if you drink and drive, don't get caught![/p][/quote]That is absoluyely not true. mikgrays

8:37am Wed 11 Dec 13

smiffy1980 says...

Although I agree DD is bad and everything should be done to punish people. But personally I think people on their phones whilst driving is a far bigger issue at the moment. Nearly every journey I go on, I Will see at least one person driving with a phone glued to their ear............How long will it be before a serious accident happens because someone couldnt wait for their journey to finish before calling someone.
Although I agree DD is bad and everything should be done to punish people. But personally I think people on their phones whilst driving is a far bigger issue at the moment. Nearly every journey I go on, I Will see at least one person driving with a phone glued to their ear............How long will it be before a serious accident happens because someone couldnt wait for their journey to finish before calling someone. smiffy1980

10:32am Wed 11 Dec 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Mikkel1 wrote:
Where I now live in Norfolk, we are lucky to see a single police car a week, UNLESS there is a crash, or some big-wig visiting the area, and the local police station is only open 5 days a week, and known to close for lunch. Duh!

I agree about motorcyclists speeding and NEVER get stopped, plus they tailgate cars and blame the driver if they hit the vehicle in front. Tailgating is now an offence, but WHERE are the cops cars that are reported by Norfolk's PCC, to be out on the roads 24/7? Certainly NOT round these parts. They MIGHT be out once a week, and that's IF we are lucky.
And the quality of driving is better up your way too...suffolk/Norfol
k is a differant world(and hardly a speed camera in sight)...until you hit Essex on the A12 then the quality takes a down turn.

agree with the phone thing...i see double figures on the phone/driving every day from well branded lorrys to woman on the school run.
There are a few unmarked traffic cars around and they must see what i see too, so maybe they are kept busy.
[quote][p][bold]Mikkel1[/bold] wrote: Where I now live in Norfolk, we are lucky to see a single police car a week, UNLESS there is a crash, or some big-wig visiting the area, and the local police station is only open 5 days a week, and known to close for lunch. Duh! I agree about motorcyclists speeding and NEVER get stopped, plus they tailgate cars and blame the driver if they hit the vehicle in front. Tailgating is now an offence, but WHERE are the cops cars that are reported by Norfolk's PCC, to be out on the roads 24/7? Certainly NOT round these parts. They MIGHT be out once a week, and that's IF we are lucky.[/p][/quote]And the quality of driving is better up your way too...suffolk/Norfol k is a differant world(and hardly a speed camera in sight)...until you hit Essex on the A12 then the quality takes a down turn. agree with the phone thing...i see double figures on the phone/driving every day from well branded lorrys to woman on the school run. There are a few unmarked traffic cars around and they must see what i see too, so maybe they are kept busy. DogsMessInLeigh

10:39am Wed 11 Dec 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Nebs wrote:
bob7 wrote:
We need a hard hitting campaign like they have in Australia. There is a TV programme calle Booze Patrol showing their system of random alcohol and drug testing. Some have a poor attitude to drink/drug driving.
They will leave crashed cars at the side of the road and then put up banners about drink driving. They also show adverts like this. http://www.youtube.c


om/watch?v=Z2mf8DtWW


d8
Ne excuse for drink/drug driving or using mobiles at the wheel.
Great link, that is a brilliant advert.
Wow....everyone should watch that, if that don't send a shiver through you nothing will.
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bob7[/bold] wrote: We need a hard hitting campaign like they have in Australia. There is a TV programme calle Booze Patrol showing their system of random alcohol and drug testing. Some have a poor attitude to drink/drug driving. They will leave crashed cars at the side of the road and then put up banners about drink driving. They also show adverts like this. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=Z2mf8DtWW d8 Ne excuse for drink/drug driving or using mobiles at the wheel.[/p][/quote]Great link, that is a brilliant advert.[/p][/quote]Wow....everyone should watch that, if that don't send a shiver through you nothing will. DogsMessInLeigh

2:30pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

tomtheDJ wrote:
some of the more "interesting" comments on here come from someone on another planet !!
up till millenium night, I drove a minicab, my minicab.
I was driving my minicabs on a busy curcuit for 14 years.
I always worked over holiday periods so that you poor of your faced tw&ts got home.
the most amusing time over christmas and new years was about 1-30 am till 2-0am
when all the merry visitors all decieded it was now late enough to take a chance and drive home, "as you wont get a cab at this hour anyway"
LOL.....
SO easy to spot a cheery drunk driver at 2am, driving slowly as not to get noticed, windows open to get a "bit of fresh air" despite it being below freezing outside, wifey or passenger in an ageted conversation with those in the back getting a lift home coz hubby has only had just one or two, maybe four of five, but its so late - no one about....FOOLS...

while your hard working cabby is just praying that those girls you just picked up are not making those tell tale signs of hoop hoop noises just before a multi coloured yawn emitts from its faced off drunk passengers,
thus stopping you from working - deserting pasengers - costing hundreds in lost earnings with cab office bills still need paying..

OH HOW I MISS THAT TIME OF YEAR......ha..ha.ha.

...
after 14 years I just walked away from drunks, druggies, pimps, protitutes, a$$holes, and nutters,
but its the genuine most nicest people that I cabbed about I miss the most, bless them ..
TANGO 12 then 22E says Happy Christmas and new years guys..
I'll put your name forward for a goody goody badge..........
[quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: some of the more "interesting" comments on here come from someone on another planet !! up till millenium night, I drove a minicab, my minicab. I was driving my minicabs on a busy curcuit for 14 years. I always worked over holiday periods so that you poor of your faced tw&ts got home. the most amusing time over christmas and new years was about 1-30 am till 2-0am when all the merry visitors all decieded it was now late enough to take a chance and drive home, "as you wont get a cab at this hour anyway" LOL..... SO easy to spot a cheery drunk driver at 2am, driving slowly as not to get noticed, windows open to get a "bit of fresh air" despite it being below freezing outside, wifey or passenger in an ageted conversation with those in the back getting a lift home coz hubby has only had just one or two, maybe four of five, but its so late - no one about....FOOLS... while your hard working cabby is just praying that those girls you just picked up are not making those tell tale signs of hoop hoop noises just before a multi coloured yawn emitts from its faced off drunk passengers, thus stopping you from working - deserting pasengers - costing hundreds in lost earnings with cab office bills still need paying.. OH HOW I MISS THAT TIME OF YEAR......ha..ha.ha. ... after 14 years I just walked away from drunks, druggies, pimps, protitutes, a$$holes, and nutters, but its the genuine most nicest people that I cabbed about I miss the most, bless them .. TANGO 12 then 22E says Happy Christmas and new years guys..[/p][/quote]I'll put your name forward for a goody goody badge.......... Nowthatsworthknowing

3:35pm Wed 11 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
tomtheDJ wrote: some of the more "interesting" comments on here come from someone on another planet !! up till millenium night, I drove a minicab, my minicab. I was driving my minicabs on a busy curcuit for 14 years. I always worked over holiday periods so that you poor of your faced tw&ts got home. the most amusing time over christmas and new years was about 1-30 am till 2-0am when all the merry visitors all decieded it was now late enough to take a chance and drive home, "as you wont get a cab at this hour anyway" LOL..... SO easy to spot a cheery drunk driver at 2am, driving slowly as not to get noticed, windows open to get a "bit of fresh air" despite it being below freezing outside, wifey or passenger in an ageted conversation with those in the back getting a lift home coz hubby has only had just one or two, maybe four of five, but its so late - no one about....FOOLS... while your hard working cabby is just praying that those girls you just picked up are not making those tell tale signs of hoop hoop noises just before a multi coloured yawn emitts from its faced off drunk passengers, thus stopping you from working - deserting pasengers - costing hundreds in lost earnings with cab office bills still need paying.. OH HOW I MISS THAT TIME OF YEAR......ha..ha.ha. ... after 14 years I just walked away from drunks, druggies, pimps, protitutes, a$$holes, and nutters, but its the genuine most nicest people that I cabbed about I miss the most, bless them .. TANGO 12 then 22E says Happy Christmas and new years guys..
I'll put your name forward for a goody goody badge..........
dont bother yourselves buddy, I got more than enough to give them away at christmas......




been there,

done that....


and you ?...................
................lol
[quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: some of the more "interesting" comments on here come from someone on another planet !! up till millenium night, I drove a minicab, my minicab. I was driving my minicabs on a busy curcuit for 14 years. I always worked over holiday periods so that you poor of your faced tw&ts got home. the most amusing time over christmas and new years was about 1-30 am till 2-0am when all the merry visitors all decieded it was now late enough to take a chance and drive home, "as you wont get a cab at this hour anyway" LOL..... SO easy to spot a cheery drunk driver at 2am, driving slowly as not to get noticed, windows open to get a "bit of fresh air" despite it being below freezing outside, wifey or passenger in an ageted conversation with those in the back getting a lift home coz hubby has only had just one or two, maybe four of five, but its so late - no one about....FOOLS... while your hard working cabby is just praying that those girls you just picked up are not making those tell tale signs of hoop hoop noises just before a multi coloured yawn emitts from its faced off drunk passengers, thus stopping you from working - deserting pasengers - costing hundreds in lost earnings with cab office bills still need paying.. OH HOW I MISS THAT TIME OF YEAR......ha..ha.ha. ... after 14 years I just walked away from drunks, druggies, pimps, protitutes, a$$holes, and nutters, but its the genuine most nicest people that I cabbed about I miss the most, bless them .. TANGO 12 then 22E says Happy Christmas and new years guys..[/p][/quote]I'll put your name forward for a goody goody badge..........[/p][/quote]dont bother yourselves buddy, I got more than enough to give them away at christmas...... been there, done that.... and you ?................... ................lol tomtheDJ

5:00pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Complete_Nutter says...

smiffy1980 wrote:
Although I agree DD is bad and everything should be done to punish people. But personally I think people on their phones whilst driving is a far bigger issue at the moment. Nearly every journey I go on, I Will see at least one person driving with a phone glued to their ear............How long will it be before a serious accident happens because someone couldnt wait for their journey to finish before calling someone.
I find driving on a phone is perfectly fine. I usually drive one handed anyway. I find it more of a distraction when someone is in the car with you, as your talking to them and usually glance at them every now and again. So what's the difference?
[quote][p][bold]smiffy1980[/bold] wrote: Although I agree DD is bad and everything should be done to punish people. But personally I think people on their phones whilst driving is a far bigger issue at the moment. Nearly every journey I go on, I Will see at least one person driving with a phone glued to their ear............How long will it be before a serious accident happens because someone couldnt wait for their journey to finish before calling someone.[/p][/quote]I find driving on a phone is perfectly fine. I usually drive one handed anyway. I find it more of a distraction when someone is in the car with you, as your talking to them and usually glance at them every now and again. So what's the difference? Complete_Nutter

8:21pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Royr says...

Complete_Nutter wrote:
smiffy1980 wrote:
Although I agree DD is bad and everything should be done to punish people. But personally I think people on their phones whilst driving is a far bigger issue at the moment. Nearly every journey I go on, I Will see at least one person driving with a phone glued to their ear............How long will it be before a serious accident happens because someone couldnt wait for their journey to finish before calling someone.
I find driving on a phone is perfectly fine. I usually drive one handed anyway. I find it more of a distraction when someone is in the car with you, as your talking to them and usually glance at them every now and again. So what's the difference?
IGNORE IGNORE IGNORE
[quote][p][bold]Complete_Nutter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy1980[/bold] wrote: Although I agree DD is bad and everything should be done to punish people. But personally I think people on their phones whilst driving is a far bigger issue at the moment. Nearly every journey I go on, I Will see at least one person driving with a phone glued to their ear............How long will it be before a serious accident happens because someone couldnt wait for their journey to finish before calling someone.[/p][/quote]I find driving on a phone is perfectly fine. I usually drive one handed anyway. I find it more of a distraction when someone is in the car with you, as your talking to them and usually glance at them every now and again. So what's the difference?[/p][/quote]IGNORE IGNORE IGNORE Royr

10:11pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Dave_ says...

They'll stop a small percentage of drivers for things like no lights on and come across a small percentage of those who will be positive for alcohol. Yet there will still be people killed / injured in accidents involving people who have had a drink.
The thing to do is prevent people even getting in their cars in the first place, so they'd be better off sitting outside restaurants and pubs with a breathalyser.
They'll stop a small percentage of drivers for things like no lights on and come across a small percentage of those who will be positive for alcohol. Yet there will still be people killed / injured in accidents involving people who have had a drink. The thing to do is prevent people even getting in their cars in the first place, so they'd be better off sitting outside restaurants and pubs with a breathalyser. Dave_

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