Lizards left to die out on cold estate

Echo: Lizards left to die out on cold estate Lizards left to die out on cold estate

ANIMAL welfare officers are investigating after two pet lizards were dumped in the cold on a housing estate and left to die.

The bearded dragons, a species naturally found in the heat of the Australian deserts, were found close to death in Malgraves, Basildon, and rescued by RSPCA officers.

The charity’s Insp Adam Jones rushed the the lizards to a vet’s surgery on Saturday, where they gradually warmed up and began to show signs of life.

The RSPCA is now appealing for information about the people responsible dumping the.

Insp Jones said: “They were dumped on the green in a fully-equipped vivarium, which included a heat lamp.

“It shows the owner knew they needed to be kept warm.

“However, we have been experiencing strong, gusty winds and rain and temperatures below 5C, so they had just been left to die.

“I cannot comprehend someone discarding animals like this.

“It is disgusting to think one minute they were in a warm, comfortable vivarium and the next they were abandoned and exposed to all the elements.”

Both dragons were dark green and brown and about a foot long.

Like all reptiles, bearded dragons rely on a warm environment, as they have no means of keeping warm without external heat. In the wild, they will bask in the sun and move to a cool area if they need to cool down.

Anyone with information about the reptiles can call the RSPCA’s confidential information line on 0300 1238018.

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7:47am Thu 2 Jan 14

MattBell says...

Another spin on another on story.
If they were just dumped, I would be in shock. The fact they were left inside a tank with bulbs, all worth money, tells me they didn't want them to die.
Another spin on another on story. If they were just dumped, I would be in shock. The fact they were left inside a tank with bulbs, all worth money, tells me they didn't want them to die. MattBell

7:48am Thu 2 Jan 14

MattBell says...

non story *
non story * MattBell

9:18am Thu 2 Jan 14

Bettycraven says...

MattBell wrote:
Another spin on another on story.
If they were just dumped, I would be in shock. The fact they were left inside a tank with bulbs, all worth money, tells me they didn't want them to die.
No they just wanted someone else to take them on instead! Still been dumped in my eyes
[quote][p][bold]MattBell[/bold] wrote: Another spin on another on story. If they were just dumped, I would be in shock. The fact they were left inside a tank with bulbs, all worth money, tells me they didn't want them to die.[/p][/quote]No they just wanted someone else to take them on instead! Still been dumped in my eyes Bettycraven

10:04am Thu 2 Jan 14

bob7 says...

Plenty or rescue places would have taken them in like this one http://www.dwarf.org
.uk/
Plenty or rescue places would have taken them in like this one http://www.dwarf.org .uk/ bob7

10:15am Thu 2 Jan 14

MattBell says...

For all we know they had a massive sign saying please take. The echo are never going to print that though, as it destroys they story.
For all we know they had a massive sign saying please take. The echo are never going to print that though, as it destroys they story. MattBell

10:33am Thu 2 Jan 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

MattBell wrote:
Another spin on another on story.
If they were just dumped, I would be in shock. The fact they were left inside a tank with bulbs, all worth money, tells me they didn't want them to die.
Must of been a very long extension lead to be plugged in somewhere, stolen and dumped maybe.
[quote][p][bold]MattBell[/bold] wrote: Another spin on another on story. If they were just dumped, I would be in shock. The fact they were left inside a tank with bulbs, all worth money, tells me they didn't want them to die.[/p][/quote]Must of been a very long extension lead to be plugged in somewhere, stolen and dumped maybe. DogsMessInLeigh

10:36am Thu 2 Jan 14

MattBell says...

I never said it was plugged in. Just saying it's all worth money.
I never said it was plugged in. Just saying it's all worth money. MattBell

1:40pm Thu 2 Jan 14

emcee says...

Bearded Dragons can survive short periods of extremely cold weather, as they do in their native environment. The parts of Australia these lizards can be found can reach nearly freezing temperartures at night. The cold would have definately made them extra sluggish and they can appear nearly dead. In fact they can appear only to breath once every 30 to 60 seconds. When temperatures drop it helps trigger sleep. In fact all heating in a vivarium should be turned off at night to help this happen. During the winter months they even go into a state of semi-hibernation called brumation.
The RSPCA, once again, are making mountains out of mole hills and have proved once again they know very little about exotic pets, especially reptiles. These lizards would have been fine for a short time during the mild winter weather we have been having and there is no proof the previous owners wanted them to die, perhaps willing someone would take them in. However, the RSPCA are in it to get as many prosecutions as they can regardless of what the circumstrances are and will do or say anything to achieve their goal.
Bearded Dragons can survive short periods of extremely cold weather, as they do in their native environment. The parts of Australia these lizards can be found can reach nearly freezing temperartures at night. The cold would have definately made them extra sluggish and they can appear nearly dead. In fact they can appear only to breath once every 30 to 60 seconds. When temperatures drop it helps trigger sleep. In fact all heating in a vivarium should be turned off at night to help this happen. During the winter months they even go into a state of semi-hibernation called brumation. The RSPCA, once again, are making mountains out of mole hills and have proved once again they know very little about exotic pets, especially reptiles. These lizards would have been fine for a short time during the mild winter weather we have been having and there is no proof the previous owners wanted them to die, perhaps willing someone would take them in. However, the RSPCA are in it to get as many prosecutions as they can regardless of what the circumstrances are and will do or say anything to achieve their goal. emcee

2:03pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Biker One says...

Non-Story! Why isn't the RSPCA chasing around the green belt 'rescuing' Grass Snakes, Adders, Slow Worms, and our other native reptiles? Oh well, I suppose they will all be dead by April!!!
Non-Story! Why isn't the RSPCA chasing around the green belt 'rescuing' Grass Snakes, Adders, Slow Worms, and our other native reptiles? Oh well, I suppose they will all be dead by April!!! Biker One

2:34pm Thu 2 Jan 14

emcee says...

Also, surely the Echo make a bit more effort when it comes to adding a photo to the article. The lizard pictured (at the time of writing) is not of a Bearded Dragon but a native Common Lizard.
Lazy, lazy, lazy.
Also, surely the Echo make a bit more effort when it comes to adding a photo to the article. The lizard pictured (at the time of writing) is not of a Bearded Dragon but a native Common Lizard. Lazy, lazy, lazy. emcee

2:42pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Biker One says...

emcee wrote:
Also, surely the Echo make a bit more effort when it comes to adding a photo to the article. The lizard pictured (at the time of writing) is not of a Bearded Dragon but a native Common Lizard.
Lazy, lazy, lazy.
Well spotted, and clinging to a blackberry stem by the looks of it. Also more sloppy reporting and a useless photo in the Easyjet article!!
[quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: Also, surely the Echo make a bit more effort when it comes to adding a photo to the article. The lizard pictured (at the time of writing) is not of a Bearded Dragon but a native Common Lizard. Lazy, lazy, lazy.[/p][/quote]Well spotted, and clinging to a blackberry stem by the looks of it. Also more sloppy reporting and a useless photo in the Easyjet article!! Biker One

6:09pm Thu 2 Jan 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

emcee wrote:
Also, surely the Echo make a bit more effort when it comes to adding a photo to the article. The lizard pictured (at the time of writing) is not of a Bearded Dragon but a native Common Lizard.
Lazy, lazy, lazy.
its like the postie that stole all the mail story last week...the echo placed a photo of an old fashioned small style red post box and called it a postman.

http://www.echo-news
.co.uk/archive/2013/
12/30/10901547.Postm
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[quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: Also, surely the Echo make a bit more effort when it comes to adding a photo to the article. The lizard pictured (at the time of writing) is not of a Bearded Dragon but a native Common Lizard. Lazy, lazy, lazy.[/p][/quote]its like the postie that stole all the mail story last week...the echo placed a photo of an old fashioned small style red post box and called it a postman. http://www.echo-news .co.uk/archive/2013/ 12/30/10901547.Postm an_to_appear_in_cour t_charged_with_openi ng_750_letters_and_p arcels/ DogsMessInLeigh

8:21pm Thu 2 Jan 14

EssexPerson says...

To Emcee and MattBell who seem to be defending this persons actions. Yes they were left in a fully equip tank and yes they can survive short periods of cold temperature.
But that doesn't make it right to do what they did. There were far better options that anyone with an ounce of intelligence should have considered first. At a very moronic level they could have taken them to a vets and left them there just before opening time.
No one would consider abandoning a child outside in near zero temperature wearing basic clothing and consider that to be acceptable.
But hey, its "only" an animal.
And to BikerOne - why wouldn't the RSPCA deal with this? Their name says it all - Cruelty to Animals. Chasing native wild animals on green belt isn't what they do.
New Year but same stupid comments on here.
To Emcee and MattBell who seem to be defending this persons actions. Yes they were left in a fully equip tank and yes they can survive short periods of cold temperature. But that doesn't make it right to do what they did. There were far better options that anyone with an ounce of intelligence should have considered first. At a very moronic level they could have taken them to a vets and left them there just before opening time. No one would consider abandoning a child outside in near zero temperature wearing basic clothing and consider that to be acceptable. But hey, its "only" an animal. And to BikerOne - why wouldn't the RSPCA deal with this? Their name says it all - Cruelty to Animals. Chasing native wild animals on green belt isn't what they do. New Year but same stupid comments on here. EssexPerson

9:52pm Thu 2 Jan 14

MattBell says...

I'm not defending the person. I'm questioning whether or no this is a real story, or a non story by the echo/rspca.
I'm not defending the person. I'm questioning whether or no this is a real story, or a non story by the echo/rspca. MattBell

10:15pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Kim Gandy says...

EssexPerson wrote:
To Emcee and MattBell who seem to be defending this persons actions. Yes they were left in a fully equip tank and yes they can survive short periods of cold temperature.
But that doesn't make it right to do what they did. There were far better options that anyone with an ounce of intelligence should have considered first. At a very moronic level they could have taken them to a vets and left them there just before opening time.
No one would consider abandoning a child outside in near zero temperature wearing basic clothing and consider that to be acceptable.
But hey, its "only" an animal.
And to BikerOne - why wouldn't the RSPCA deal with this? Their name says it all - Cruelty to Animals. Chasing native wild animals on green belt isn't what they do.
New Year but same stupid comments on here.
Emcee is a self appointed expert in everything. Including it seems, perfect strangers... people of whom this person has never had any acquaintance.

There are a few of them on here.. know alls who know nothing. Lastlaugh is another self appointed expert/moral guardian.

You will soon get used to them and quickly learn to just ignore them.
[quote][p][bold]EssexPerson[/bold] wrote: To Emcee and MattBell who seem to be defending this persons actions. Yes they were left in a fully equip tank and yes they can survive short periods of cold temperature. But that doesn't make it right to do what they did. There were far better options that anyone with an ounce of intelligence should have considered first. At a very moronic level they could have taken them to a vets and left them there just before opening time. No one would consider abandoning a child outside in near zero temperature wearing basic clothing and consider that to be acceptable. But hey, its "only" an animal. And to BikerOne - why wouldn't the RSPCA deal with this? Their name says it all - Cruelty to Animals. Chasing native wild animals on green belt isn't what they do. New Year but same stupid comments on here.[/p][/quote]Emcee is a self appointed expert in everything. Including it seems, perfect strangers... people of whom this person has never had any acquaintance. There are a few of them on here.. know alls who know nothing. Lastlaugh is another self appointed expert/moral guardian. You will soon get used to them and quickly learn to just ignore them. Kim Gandy

10:31pm Thu 2 Jan 14

_Lotus_ says...

MattBell wrote:
Another spin on another on story.
If they were just dumped, I would be in shock. The fact they were left inside a tank with bulbs, all worth money, tells me they didn't want them to die.
They just dumped them, vivarium or no vivarium. How would they get fed, watered, cleaned, etc etc?

Whoever previously owned them would have been better taking them to a reptile shop, one that specialises and knows what they are doing with these creatures.

This was just cruel and there was no need, in this day and age, to just dump them where they did.

I am glad they survived, but they so easily could have died.
[quote][p][bold]MattBell[/bold] wrote: Another spin on another on story. If they were just dumped, I would be in shock. The fact they were left inside a tank with bulbs, all worth money, tells me they didn't want them to die.[/p][/quote]They just dumped them, vivarium or no vivarium. How would they get fed, watered, cleaned, etc etc? Whoever previously owned them would have been better taking them to a reptile shop, one that specialises and knows what they are doing with these creatures. This was just cruel and there was no need, in this day and age, to just dump them where they did. I am glad they survived, but they so easily could have died. _Lotus_

7:43am Sun 5 Jan 14

Pitsea Paul says...

Well it's obvious innit? The place was burgled and the burglars just dumped them on the street. Gor blimey. You don't need to be Sherlock Holmes to work than one out.
Well it's obvious innit? The place was burgled and the burglars just dumped them on the street. Gor blimey. You don't need to be Sherlock Holmes to work than one out. Pitsea Paul

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