'Too early to celebrate' say police bosses after crime falls in Castle Point following switch-off

'Too early to celebrate' say police bosses after crime falls following switch-off

'Too early to celebrate' say police bosses after crime falls following switch-off

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POLICE chiefs and residents have given a cautious welcome to statistics that show crime has fallen in Castle Point since street lights were switched off.

Figures reveal that in the week after the borough’s streetlights were turned off between midnight and 5am, there were actually 50 fewer crimes reported to Essex Police than the previous week.

Residents had raised a number of concerns following Essex County Council’s decision to switch-off the majority of the lights in the early hours, with many worried that it would encourage criminals to target their pitch-black streets.

But Essex Police figures show there were actually fewer crimes.

474 crimes were reported between Monday, January 13 and Sunday, January 19 and 526 the previous week, between Monday, January 6 and Sunday, January 12.

The figures indicated that most crimes were reported between midnight and 1am, although this was closely followed by the following hour, between 1am and 2am.

However, locals say it is too early to tell whether the crime will fall overall and want the scheme to be constantly reviewed.

John Anderson, Independent councillor for Canvey Island Central, said he wants to see the figures again in five months.

“I would say it’s far too early to be jumping up and down with joy. If we were to come back in June and compare I would be very interested to see how many crimes had been reported.

“It is not only crime that is a concern, it is so dark and the pavements are in such poor shape it is only a matter of time before people start injuring themselves. The whole project needs to be re-examined.”

It is believed the project will save Essex County Council more than £1million a year – £64,000 in Castle Point.

Key road junctions are not affected by the plan and neither are areas where lighting is needed for safety reasons.

Lights at bus shelters, on road signs and traffic bollards will also remain on.

Chris Wood, Castle Point District Inspector, said the scheme was in its infancy.

“In many respects it is far too early to judge the figures. I know that previously the Police and Crime Commissioner has said there is no direct correlation between the lights being turned off and a rise in the amount of crime.

“Crime in all areas does rise and fall without a discernible reason at times and it is very hard to put it down to one thing in particular.

“I think it is important not to become too concerned about it as the area is still being policed in the same way as before.

“We will continue to monitor crime after dark to ensure the residents of Castle Point are kept safe.”

The scheme will be rolled out in Basildon on Friday, January 31.

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7:12am Tue 28 Jan 14

Spirit of Kings Park says...

Can anyone see the logic as to why bus shelters are remaining lit during the hours when buses do not run??
Can anyone see the logic as to why bus shelters are remaining lit during the hours when buses do not run?? Spirit of Kings Park
  • Score: 13

8:08am Tue 28 Jan 14

HadleighBoy says...

Spirit of Kings Park wrote:
Can anyone see the logic as to why bus shelters are remaining lit during the hours when buses do not run??
The same logic that keeps the Council Offices bathed in light i.e. None
[quote][p][bold]Spirit of Kings Park[/bold] wrote: Can anyone see the logic as to why bus shelters are remaining lit during the hours when buses do not run??[/p][/quote]The same logic that keeps the Council Offices bathed in light i.e. None HadleighBoy
  • Score: 12

8:36am Tue 28 Jan 14

upset says...

What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark?
What a stupid assumption to make.
What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark? What a stupid assumption to make. upset
  • Score: 11

8:40am Tue 28 Jan 14

Crazy_Rider says...

upset wrote:
What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark?
What a stupid assumption to make.
I'm a criminal and operate on a motorbike selling drugs at night. It wouldn't put me off atall!
[quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark? What a stupid assumption to make.[/p][/quote]I'm a criminal and operate on a motorbike selling drugs at night. It wouldn't put me off atall! Crazy_Rider
  • Score: 4

9:07am Tue 28 Jan 14

Chris Flunk says...

upset wrote:
What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark?
What a stupid assumption to make.
They aren't suggesting anything, they are just reporting the figures. In fact, it's usually the anti-brigade who suggest that criminals are frightened of the light. Isn't that an equally stupid assumption to make?
[quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark? What a stupid assumption to make.[/p][/quote]They aren't suggesting anything, they are just reporting the figures. In fact, it's usually the anti-brigade who suggest that criminals are frightened of the light. Isn't that an equally stupid assumption to make? Chris Flunk
  • Score: -2

9:13am Tue 28 Jan 14

upset says...

Chris Flunk wrote:
upset wrote:
What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark?
What a stupid assumption to make.
They aren't suggesting anything, they are just reporting the figures. In fact, it's usually the anti-brigade who suggest that criminals are frightened of the light. Isn't that an equally stupid assumption to make?
Read the headline again 'Too early to celebrate' say police bosses after crime falls in Castle Point following switch-off.
Thats an assumption if I'm not mistaken, just like saying because it has been raining heavy that kept crime down.
[quote][p][bold]Chris Flunk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark? What a stupid assumption to make.[/p][/quote]They aren't suggesting anything, they are just reporting the figures. In fact, it's usually the anti-brigade who suggest that criminals are frightened of the light. Isn't that an equally stupid assumption to make?[/p][/quote]Read the headline again 'Too early to celebrate' say police bosses after crime falls in Castle Point following switch-off. Thats an assumption if I'm not mistaken, just like saying because it has been raining heavy that kept crime down. upset
  • Score: 5

9:38am Tue 28 Jan 14

blackheart says...

Their eyes just need time to adjust.....
Their eyes just need time to adjust..... blackheart
  • Score: 5

10:29am Tue 28 Jan 14

Happy Chickie says...

upset wrote:
Chris Flunk wrote:
upset wrote:
What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark?
What a stupid assumption to make.
They aren't suggesting anything, they are just reporting the figures. In fact, it's usually the anti-brigade who suggest that criminals are frightened of the light. Isn't that an equally stupid assumption to make?
Read the headline again 'Too early to celebrate' say police bosses after crime falls in Castle Point following switch-off.
Thats an assumption if I'm not mistaken, just like saying because it has been raining heavy that kept crime down.
You mean bad guys stay in when it rains? :)
[quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris Flunk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark? What a stupid assumption to make.[/p][/quote]They aren't suggesting anything, they are just reporting the figures. In fact, it's usually the anti-brigade who suggest that criminals are frightened of the light. Isn't that an equally stupid assumption to make?[/p][/quote]Read the headline again 'Too early to celebrate' say police bosses after crime falls in Castle Point following switch-off. Thats an assumption if I'm not mistaken, just like saying because it has been raining heavy that kept crime down.[/p][/quote]You mean bad guys stay in when it rains? :) Happy Chickie
  • Score: 4

11:34am Tue 28 Jan 14

upset says...

Happy Chickie wrote:
upset wrote:
Chris Flunk wrote:
upset wrote:
What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark?
What a stupid assumption to make.
They aren't suggesting anything, they are just reporting the figures. In fact, it's usually the anti-brigade who suggest that criminals are frightened of the light. Isn't that an equally stupid assumption to make?
Read the headline again 'Too early to celebrate' say police bosses after crime falls in Castle Point following switch-off.
Thats an assumption if I'm not mistaken, just like saying because it has been raining heavy that kept crime down.
You mean bad guys stay in when it rains? :)
My point exactly!!!
[quote][p][bold]Happy Chickie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris Flunk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark? What a stupid assumption to make.[/p][/quote]They aren't suggesting anything, they are just reporting the figures. In fact, it's usually the anti-brigade who suggest that criminals are frightened of the light. Isn't that an equally stupid assumption to make?[/p][/quote]Read the headline again 'Too early to celebrate' say police bosses after crime falls in Castle Point following switch-off. Thats an assumption if I'm not mistaken, just like saying because it has been raining heavy that kept crime down.[/p][/quote]You mean bad guys stay in when it rains? :)[/p][/quote]My point exactly!!! upset
  • Score: 4

11:45am Tue 28 Jan 14

Happy Chickie says...

upset wrote:
Happy Chickie wrote:
upset wrote:
Chris Flunk wrote:
upset wrote:
What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark?
What a stupid assumption to make.
They aren't suggesting anything, they are just reporting the figures. In fact, it's usually the anti-brigade who suggest that criminals are frightened of the light. Isn't that an equally stupid assumption to make?
Read the headline again 'Too early to celebrate' say police bosses after crime falls in Castle Point following switch-off.
Thats an assumption if I'm not mistaken, just like saying because it has been raining heavy that kept crime down.
You mean bad guys stay in when it rains? :)
My point exactly!!!
Well if they turn out the lights in my area and I have to go out, I'm going to carry a 2,000,000 watt flashlight. (he he he)
[quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Happy Chickie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris Flunk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark? What a stupid assumption to make.[/p][/quote]They aren't suggesting anything, they are just reporting the figures. In fact, it's usually the anti-brigade who suggest that criminals are frightened of the light. Isn't that an equally stupid assumption to make?[/p][/quote]Read the headline again 'Too early to celebrate' say police bosses after crime falls in Castle Point following switch-off. Thats an assumption if I'm not mistaken, just like saying because it has been raining heavy that kept crime down.[/p][/quote]You mean bad guys stay in when it rains? :)[/p][/quote]My point exactly!!![/p][/quote]Well if they turn out the lights in my area and I have to go out, I'm going to carry a 2,000,000 watt flashlight. (he he he) Happy Chickie
  • Score: 0

1:55pm Tue 28 Jan 14

iknowbetter says...

upset wrote:
Chris Flunk wrote:
upset wrote:
What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark?
What a stupid assumption to make.
They aren't suggesting anything, they are just reporting the figures. In fact, it's usually the anti-brigade who suggest that criminals are frightened of the light. Isn't that an equally stupid assumption to make?
Read the headline again 'Too early to celebrate' say police bosses after crime falls in Castle Point following switch-off.
Thats an assumption if I'm not mistaken, just like saying because it has been raining heavy that kept crime down.
I think you have a really good point Upset. It will interesting to see the annual figures, which includes both Summer and Winter.
[quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris Flunk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark? What a stupid assumption to make.[/p][/quote]They aren't suggesting anything, they are just reporting the figures. In fact, it's usually the anti-brigade who suggest that criminals are frightened of the light. Isn't that an equally stupid assumption to make?[/p][/quote]Read the headline again 'Too early to celebrate' say police bosses after crime falls in Castle Point following switch-off. Thats an assumption if I'm not mistaken, just like saying because it has been raining heavy that kept crime down.[/p][/quote]I think you have a really good point Upset. It will interesting to see the annual figures, which includes both Summer and Winter. iknowbetter
  • Score: 4

7:29pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Chris Flunk says...

upset wrote:
Chris Flunk wrote:
upset wrote:
What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark?
What a stupid assumption to make.
They aren't suggesting anything, they are just reporting the figures. In fact, it's usually the anti-brigade who suggest that criminals are frightened of the light. Isn't that an equally stupid assumption to make?
Read the headline again 'Too early to celebrate' say police bosses after crime falls in Castle Point following switch-off.
Thats an assumption if I'm not mistaken, just like saying because it has been raining heavy that kept crime down.
Or you could read my reply properly. No one had made any assumptions except you. This was merely a case of reporting the figures. You were the first person to put your spin on things.
[quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris Flunk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark? What a stupid assumption to make.[/p][/quote]They aren't suggesting anything, they are just reporting the figures. In fact, it's usually the anti-brigade who suggest that criminals are frightened of the light. Isn't that an equally stupid assumption to make?[/p][/quote]Read the headline again 'Too early to celebrate' say police bosses after crime falls in Castle Point following switch-off. Thats an assumption if I'm not mistaken, just like saying because it has been raining heavy that kept crime down.[/p][/quote]Or you could read my reply properly. No one had made any assumptions except you. This was merely a case of reporting the figures. You were the first person to put your spin on things. Chris Flunk
  • Score: 1

8:29pm Tue 28 Jan 14

upset says...

Chris Flunk wrote:
upset wrote:
Chris Flunk wrote:
upset wrote:
What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark?
What a stupid assumption to make.
They aren't suggesting anything, they are just reporting the figures. In fact, it's usually the anti-brigade who suggest that criminals are frightened of the light. Isn't that an equally stupid assumption to make?
Read the headline again 'Too early to celebrate' say police bosses after crime falls in Castle Point following switch-off.
Thats an assumption if I'm not mistaken, just like saying because it has been raining heavy that kept crime down.
Or you could read my reply properly. No one had made any assumptions except you. This was merely a case of reporting the figures. You were the first person to put your spin on things.
Hope this helps
NOUN
1a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof:
they made certain assumptions about the market
: we’re working on the assumption that the time of death was after midnight
[quote][p][bold]Chris Flunk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris Flunk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark? What a stupid assumption to make.[/p][/quote]They aren't suggesting anything, they are just reporting the figures. In fact, it's usually the anti-brigade who suggest that criminals are frightened of the light. Isn't that an equally stupid assumption to make?[/p][/quote]Read the headline again 'Too early to celebrate' say police bosses after crime falls in Castle Point following switch-off. Thats an assumption if I'm not mistaken, just like saying because it has been raining heavy that kept crime down.[/p][/quote]Or you could read my reply properly. No one had made any assumptions except you. This was merely a case of reporting the figures. You were the first person to put your spin on things.[/p][/quote]Hope this helps NOUN 1a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof: they made certain assumptions about the market [WITH CLAUSE]: we’re working on the assumption that the time of death was after midnight upset
  • Score: 0

10:01pm Tue 28 Jan 14

the25man says...

When the clocks change crime goes up and the Police put out advise this is known but are there figures showing if there is more or less crime in wet weather over night
When the clocks change crime goes up and the Police put out advise this is known but are there figures showing if there is more or less crime in wet weather over night the25man
  • Score: 0

10:32pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Letmetryagain says...

One authorities switch to LED lighting, the need for switching off will be gone.
One authorities switch to LED lighting, the need for switching off will be gone. Letmetryagain
  • Score: 2

12:35am Wed 29 Jan 14

Seasider90 says...

It's better for wildlife and logic dictates criminals actually need light to see what they are doing. Putting a torch on will get them noticed. People in the countryside manage quite well without street lighting so are we saying that us townies are too scared to do without lights. Buy a torch and stop moaning.
It's better for wildlife and logic dictates criminals actually need light to see what they are doing. Putting a torch on will get them noticed. People in the countryside manage quite well without street lighting so are we saying that us townies are too scared to do without lights. Buy a torch and stop moaning. Seasider90
  • Score: 2

5:42pm Wed 29 Jan 14

idnwys says...

upset wrote:
What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark?
What a stupid assumption to make.
Or it could mean the bright lights make your pupils constrict more. This causes the darker areas to seem even darker. Without the bright lights, your pupils dilate, which makes things seems brighter, including those darker places.
[quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: What are they suggesting, criminals are frightened of the dark? What a stupid assumption to make.[/p][/quote]Or it could mean the bright lights make your pupils constrict more. This causes the darker areas to seem even darker. Without the bright lights, your pupils dilate, which makes things seems brighter, including those darker places. idnwys
  • Score: -1

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