Flybe agreement to bring 60 new jobs to Southend Airport

Takeoff: Stobart chief executive Andrew Tinkler and Flybe chief executive Saad Hammad launch the franchise

Takeoff: Stobart chief executive Andrew Tinkler and Flybe chief executive Saad Hammad launch the franchise

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SIXTY new jobs will be created at Southend Airport after the Stobart owners entered into a franchising agreement with Flybe.

The agreement will see two Flybe aircraft based at the airport, creating six new routes to Northern Europe which are expected to carry more than 200,000 passengers in 2015.

Flybe, Europe’s largest independent regional airline, joins easyJet and Aer Lingus at the airport which catered for nearly one million passengers in 2013 as it continues to grow.

Andrew Tinkler, chief executive of Stobart Group, said: “This agreement is a further step in our development of London Southend Airport and Stobart Air. “It promises to be the start of an exciting relationship with Flybe, with scope to grow the partnership in the future.

“Adding to the number of carriers and routes at London Southend Airport drives passenger volumes and contributes to cementing the airport as an established transport hub in the South East.”

The Stobart Group has already ploughed more than £120million of investment into the airport since it bought it in 2008, including the latest phase of extension to the terminal building, which opened in February.

Saad Hammad, chief executive of Flybe, said: “We are delighted to be extending the Flybe brand further into the South-East.

“Today’s news is also further evidence of our commitment to providing true regional connectivity across the UK and we look forward to unveiling a major programme of new base and route development over the coming months.”

The new routes, which have yet to be fully detailed, will begin flying on June 5 this year, with tickets going on sale from April, 3 at flybe.com.

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9:22am Tue 25 Mar 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

Fantastic news, it just keeps getting better....
Fantastic news, it just keeps getting better.... carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: 46

10:17am Tue 25 Mar 14

VanRes says...

carnmountyouknowitma
kessense
wrote:
Fantastic news, it just keeps getting better....
Totally agree.
[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: Fantastic news, it just keeps getting better....[/p][/quote]Totally agree. VanRes
  • Score: 37

10:26am Tue 25 Mar 14

Barling Magna says...

This is just the news that Southend Airport needed, another well known airline operating several routes into Europe. They need to ensure that the timings work for business travellers as well as for leisure passengers though.
This is just the news that Southend Airport needed, another well known airline operating several routes into Europe. They need to ensure that the timings work for business travellers as well as for leisure passengers though. Barling Magna
  • Score: 35

11:07am Tue 25 Mar 14

paintlad3 says...

keeps getting better & better.....
keeps getting better & better..... paintlad3
  • Score: 27

11:31am Tue 25 Mar 14

openspace says...

More jobs, good news, more flight destinations, good news, back to the successful years of the 60's, also good news.
"Airlines won't want to come to Southend", "It will be a failure", etc, etc, etc
Remember comments like these from SAEN.
All SAEN members now suffering from well-known " Egg on face" syndrome.
Are we entitled to gloat just a little ??. I think so !!!!!
More jobs, good news, more flight destinations, good news, back to the successful years of the 60's, also good news. "Airlines won't want to come to Southend", "It will be a failure", etc, etc, etc Remember comments like these from SAEN. All SAEN members now suffering from well-known " Egg on face" syndrome. Are we entitled to gloat just a little ??. I think so !!!!! openspace
  • Score: 34

11:33am Tue 25 Mar 14

costa-del-blowfly says...

Excellent news and will be interesting to see which specific destinations they will be serving.

As this operation is projected to add 0.2m in 2015, it leaves a gap of 0.8m to fill (to reach the 2.0m projected passengers by 2020). I expect/hope that this will act as the catalyst that brings other operators to the airport over the next 2-3 years, hopefully offering a variety of destinations.
Excellent news and will be interesting to see which specific destinations they will be serving. As this operation is projected to add 0.2m in 2015, it leaves a gap of 0.8m to fill (to reach the 2.0m projected passengers by 2020). I expect/hope that this will act as the catalyst that brings other operators to the airport over the next 2-3 years, hopefully offering a variety of destinations. costa-del-blowfly
  • Score: 25

11:50am Tue 25 Mar 14

openspace says...

openspace wrote:
More jobs, good news, more flight destinations, good news, back to the successful years of the 60's, also good news.
"Airlines won't want to come to Southend", "It will be a failure", etc, etc, etc
Remember comments like these from SAEN.
All SAEN members now suffering from well-known " Egg on face" syndrome.
Are we entitled to gloat just a little ??. I think so !!!!!
PS Most people flying out of and to Southend will probably not add overall to the total of UK fliers and a majority of Southend Airport users will almost certainly be merely transferring their custom to an airport closer to home. Any comments and criticisms about resulting increases in global pollution, noise, etc, do not really apply. Pollution and noise are, however, being shared around more to smaller airports and I guess we will all pay a small price for this locally. The answer is, of course, never buy a property near an airport, if you disagree with it's use. As many have said, the airport has been there for decades and has been very busy before.
[quote][p][bold]openspace[/bold] wrote: More jobs, good news, more flight destinations, good news, back to the successful years of the 60's, also good news. "Airlines won't want to come to Southend", "It will be a failure", etc, etc, etc Remember comments like these from SAEN. All SAEN members now suffering from well-known " Egg on face" syndrome. Are we entitled to gloat just a little ??. I think so !!!!![/p][/quote]PS Most people flying out of and to Southend will probably not add overall to the total of UK fliers and a majority of Southend Airport users will almost certainly be merely transferring their custom to an airport closer to home. Any comments and criticisms about resulting increases in global pollution, noise, etc, do not really apply. Pollution and noise are, however, being shared around more to smaller airports and I guess we will all pay a small price for this locally. The answer is, of course, never buy a property near an airport, if you disagree with it's use. As many have said, the airport has been there for decades and has been very busy before. openspace
  • Score: 23

12:25pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Mannersway says...

Fantastic news, I'm off to Edinburgh next month. Hopefully Flybe/Stobart pick up the route from easyJet!
Paris would be nice as would Nice!
Can't wait to find out the other routes, well done all concerned onwards & upwards.
Fantastic news, I'm off to Edinburgh next month. Hopefully Flybe/Stobart pick up the route from easyJet! Paris would be nice as would Nice! Can't wait to find out the other routes, well done all concerned onwards & upwards. Mannersway
  • Score: 26

12:44pm Tue 25 Mar 14

My Britain says...

openspace wrote:
openspace wrote: More jobs, good news, more flight destinations, good news, back to the successful years of the 60's, also good news. "Airlines won't want to come to Southend", "It will be a failure", etc, etc, etc Remember comments like these from SAEN. All SAEN members now suffering from well-known " Egg on face" syndrome. Are we entitled to gloat just a little ??. I think so !!!!!
PS Most people flying out of and to Southend will probably not add overall to the total of UK fliers and a majority of Southend Airport users will almost certainly be merely transferring their custom to an airport closer to home. Any comments and criticisms about resulting increases in global pollution, noise, etc, do not really apply. Pollution and noise are, however, being shared around more to smaller airports and I guess we will all pay a small price for this locally. The answer is, of course, never buy a property near an airport, if you disagree with it's use. As many have said, the airport has been there for decades and has been very busy before.
Shut up👮👮👮👮
[quote][p][bold]openspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openspace[/bold] wrote: More jobs, good news, more flight destinations, good news, back to the successful years of the 60's, also good news. "Airlines won't want to come to Southend", "It will be a failure", etc, etc, etc Remember comments like these from SAEN. All SAEN members now suffering from well-known " Egg on face" syndrome. Are we entitled to gloat just a little ??. I think so !!!!![/p][/quote]PS Most people flying out of and to Southend will probably not add overall to the total of UK fliers and a majority of Southend Airport users will almost certainly be merely transferring their custom to an airport closer to home. Any comments and criticisms about resulting increases in global pollution, noise, etc, do not really apply. Pollution and noise are, however, being shared around more to smaller airports and I guess we will all pay a small price for this locally. The answer is, of course, never buy a property near an airport, if you disagree with it's use. As many have said, the airport has been there for decades and has been very busy before.[/p][/quote]Shut up👮👮👮👮 My Britain
  • Score: -34

12:47pm Tue 25 Mar 14

jantone says...

Hopefully they will fly to Paris, & that would be really great!!
Hopefully they will fly to Paris, & that would be really great!! jantone
  • Score: 25

12:48pm Tue 25 Mar 14

My Britain says...

These people who moan, will more. Then likely, use the airport!!
These people who moan, will more. Then likely, use the airport!! My Britain
  • Score: 20

2:35pm Tue 25 Mar 14

DutchCyclist says...

I am now fast approaching my 8th year living in Holland and since Southend airport has opened I now travel back to Southend 3 times a year where previously I visited once per year. The airport is 'feels personal' and my friends and family visit Holland a lot more now so I was so glad when easyjet operated from Southend. Keep up the good work all!
I am now fast approaching my 8th year living in Holland and since Southend airport has opened I now travel back to Southend 3 times a year where previously I visited once per year. The airport is 'feels personal' and my friends and family visit Holland a lot more now so I was so glad when easyjet operated from Southend. Keep up the good work all! DutchCyclist
  • Score: 31

3:34pm Tue 25 Mar 14

southendcivilservant says...

This is more brilliant news for Southend, I'd love also to see any of the following: Paris, Stockholm, Copenhagen as they are viable destinations for city breaks. I can't wait to see what they come up with.
This is more brilliant news for Southend, I'd love also to see any of the following: Paris, Stockholm, Copenhagen as they are viable destinations for city breaks. I can't wait to see what they come up with. southendcivilservant
  • Score: 24

3:50pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Keptquiettillnow says...

DutchCyclist wrote:
I am now fast approaching my 8th year living in Holland and since Southend airport has opened I now travel back to Southend 3 times a year where previously I visited once per year. The airport is 'feels personal' and my friends and family visit Holland a lot more now so I was so glad when easyjet operated from Southend. Keep up the good work all!
On yer bike
[quote][p][bold]DutchCyclist[/bold] wrote: I am now fast approaching my 8th year living in Holland and since Southend airport has opened I now travel back to Southend 3 times a year where previously I visited once per year. The airport is 'feels personal' and my friends and family visit Holland a lot more now so I was so glad when easyjet operated from Southend. Keep up the good work all![/p][/quote]On yer bike Keptquiettillnow
  • Score: -23

4:22pm Tue 25 Mar 14

jayman says...

has Stobart settled its rent arrears owed to the people of Southend yet?
has Stobart settled its rent arrears owed to the people of Southend yet? jayman
  • Score: -30

5:17pm Tue 25 Mar 14

EastStBoy says...

I am in Paris right now.

Would have loved to take the five minute trip to Southend Airport rather than trek around the M25 to Heathrow!

Anyway - delighted for these new routes. Hope some people go and enjoy parts of Europe they've never been to before :)
I am in Paris right now. Would have loved to take the five minute trip to Southend Airport rather than trek around the M25 to Heathrow! Anyway - delighted for these new routes. Hope some people go and enjoy parts of Europe they've never been to before :) EastStBoy
  • Score: 19

5:27pm Tue 25 Mar 14

costa-del-blowfly says...

jayman wrote:
has Stobart settled its rent arrears owed to the people of Southend yet?
You made the exact same comment in January, to which you had an answer. That was a schedule of payment had been agreed. Wondering however, if you are able to add any more to this?

Either way, surely increasing the size of the operation (as planned) is of benefit to the Airport meeting it's financial obligations.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: has Stobart settled its rent arrears owed to the people of Southend yet?[/p][/quote]You made the exact same comment in January, to which you had an answer. That was a schedule of payment had been agreed. Wondering however, if you are able to add any more to this? Either way, surely increasing the size of the operation (as planned) is of benefit to the Airport meeting it's financial obligations. costa-del-blowfly
  • Score: 16

6:46pm Tue 25 Mar 14

tophat27dt says...

Oh Jayman, you are such a repetitive bore. I thought you had gone away forever! Well done to Stobarts. I wish everybody good luck on the new routes, to be announced next week.
Oh Jayman, you are such a repetitive bore. I thought you had gone away forever! Well done to Stobarts. I wish everybody good luck on the new routes, to be announced next week. tophat27dt
  • Score: 20

7:44pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Sensible Man says...

Hopefully, with the airport getting busier, Greater Anglia will introduce some earlier / later trains to facilitate those who want to travel to / from London at either end of the schedule. Or perhaps Stobarts could tie up with First to introduce an express coach to London when the rail service is not available.
Hopefully, with the airport getting busier, Greater Anglia will introduce some earlier / later trains to facilitate those who want to travel to / from London at either end of the schedule. Or perhaps Stobarts could tie up with First to introduce an express coach to London when the rail service is not available. Sensible Man
  • Score: 17

8:12pm Tue 25 Mar 14

jayman says...

costa-del-blowfly wrote:
jayman wrote:
has Stobart settled its rent arrears owed to the people of Southend yet?
You made the exact same comment in January, to which you had an answer. That was a schedule of payment had been agreed. Wondering however, if you are able to add any more to this?

Either way, surely increasing the size of the operation (as planned) is of benefit to the Airport meeting it's financial obligations.
yes. That may have been an ad hoc arrangement made between Southend Tory administration and the airport operator.

but.

The people of Southend are the owner of the land that the airport is built upon .
as a resident of Southend and a council tax payer, I want to know if the investment is paying off. By technical and absolute definition the airport operator is 'in arrears'

so the question is... Has Stobart Settled the debt?. yes or no...
[quote][p][bold]costa-del-blowfly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: has Stobart settled its rent arrears owed to the people of Southend yet?[/p][/quote]You made the exact same comment in January, to which you had an answer. That was a schedule of payment had been agreed. Wondering however, if you are able to add any more to this? Either way, surely increasing the size of the operation (as planned) is of benefit to the Airport meeting it's financial obligations.[/p][/quote]yes. That may have been an ad hoc arrangement made between Southend Tory administration and the airport operator. but. The people of Southend are the owner of the land that the airport is built upon . as a resident of Southend and a council tax payer, I want to know if the investment is paying off. By technical and absolute definition the airport operator is 'in arrears' so the question is... Has Stobart Settled the debt?. yes or no... jayman
  • Score: -16

10:25pm Tue 25 Mar 14

costa-del-blowfly says...

jayman wrote:
costa-del-blowfly wrote:
jayman wrote:
has Stobart settled its rent arrears owed to the people of Southend yet?
You made the exact same comment in January, to which you had an answer. That was a schedule of payment had been agreed. Wondering however, if you are able to add any more to this?

Either way, surely increasing the size of the operation (as planned) is of benefit to the Airport meeting it's financial obligations.
yes. That may have been an ad hoc arrangement made between Southend Tory administration and the airport operator.

but.

The people of Southend are the owner of the land that the airport is built upon .
as a resident of Southend and a council tax payer, I want to know if the investment is paying off. By technical and absolute definition the airport operator is 'in arrears'

so the question is... Has Stobart Settled the debt?. yes or no...
"...By technical and absolute definition the airport operator is 'in arrears'..."

If there has been a new agreement on the payment of rent and this obligation is being met, then the Airport is not in arrears by any definition.

What are your thoughts about this newly announced operation?
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa-del-blowfly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: has Stobart settled its rent arrears owed to the people of Southend yet?[/p][/quote]You made the exact same comment in January, to which you had an answer. That was a schedule of payment had been agreed. Wondering however, if you are able to add any more to this? Either way, surely increasing the size of the operation (as planned) is of benefit to the Airport meeting it's financial obligations.[/p][/quote]yes. That may have been an ad hoc arrangement made between Southend Tory administration and the airport operator. but. The people of Southend are the owner of the land that the airport is built upon . as a resident of Southend and a council tax payer, I want to know if the investment is paying off. By technical and absolute definition the airport operator is 'in arrears' so the question is... Has Stobart Settled the debt?. yes or no...[/p][/quote]"...By technical and absolute definition the airport operator is 'in arrears'..." If there has been a new agreement on the payment of rent and this obligation is being met, then the Airport is not in arrears by any definition. What are your thoughts about this newly announced operation? costa-del-blowfly
  • Score: 11

10:51pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Joe Clark says...

jayman wrote:
costa-del-blowfly wrote:
jayman wrote:
has Stobart settled its rent arrears owed to the people of Southend yet?
You made the exact same comment in January, to which you had an answer. That was a schedule of payment had been agreed. Wondering however, if you are able to add any more to this?

Either way, surely increasing the size of the operation (as planned) is of benefit to the Airport meeting it's financial obligations.
yes. That may have been an ad hoc arrangement made between Southend Tory administration and the airport operator.

but.

The people of Southend are the owner of the land that the airport is built upon .
as a resident of Southend and a council tax payer, I want to know if the investment is paying off. By technical and absolute definition the airport operator is 'in arrears'

so the question is... Has Stobart Settled the debt?. yes or no...
Why instead of asking us, why don't YOU submit a freedom of information request?

or do you expect everyone else to seek out the information for you.

You seem to hate jobs being created in Southend, why is that?
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa-del-blowfly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: has Stobart settled its rent arrears owed to the people of Southend yet?[/p][/quote]You made the exact same comment in January, to which you had an answer. That was a schedule of payment had been agreed. Wondering however, if you are able to add any more to this? Either way, surely increasing the size of the operation (as planned) is of benefit to the Airport meeting it's financial obligations.[/p][/quote]yes. That may have been an ad hoc arrangement made between Southend Tory administration and the airport operator. but. The people of Southend are the owner of the land that the airport is built upon . as a resident of Southend and a council tax payer, I want to know if the investment is paying off. By technical and absolute definition the airport operator is 'in arrears' so the question is... Has Stobart Settled the debt?. yes or no...[/p][/quote]Why instead of asking us, why don't YOU submit a freedom of information request? or do you expect everyone else to seek out the information for you. You seem to hate jobs being created in Southend, why is that? Joe Clark
  • Score: 13

8:57am Wed 26 Mar 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

All thats needed now, are the big ones, to cross the Atlantic...
All thats needed now, are the big ones, to cross the Atlantic... carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: 3

11:05am Wed 26 Mar 14

jayman says...

carnmountyouknowitma
kessense
wrote:
All thats needed now, are the big ones, to cross the Atlantic...
i agree. build the estuary airport. it would be great...
[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: All thats needed now, are the big ones, to cross the Atlantic...[/p][/quote]i agree. build the estuary airport. it would be great... jayman
  • Score: -12

11:07am Wed 26 Mar 14

mrttev63 says...

Speaking to the Irish Independent, Stobart Air interim chief executive Sean Brogan said that the airline will next week receive delivery of the final ATR 72-600 aircraft that was part of an eight-aircraft order made in 2012.

He confirmed that the company has options to buy four more aircraft. He said that while the options are likely to be exercised, he declined to say when Stobart Air might like to see deliveries of those additional aircraft begin. He said negotiations on exercising the options would probably begin this year.
Speaking to the Irish Independent, Stobart Air interim chief executive Sean Brogan said that the airline will next week receive delivery of the final ATR 72-600 aircraft that was part of an eight-aircraft order made in 2012. He confirmed that the company has options to buy four more aircraft. He said that while the options are likely to be exercised, he declined to say when Stobart Air might like to see deliveries of those additional aircraft begin. He said negotiations on exercising the options would probably begin this year. mrttev63
  • Score: 2

11:23am Wed 26 Mar 14

jayman says...

Joe Clark wrote:
jayman wrote:
costa-del-blowfly wrote:
jayman wrote:
has Stobart settled its rent arrears owed to the people of Southend yet?
You made the exact same comment in January, to which you had an answer. That was a schedule of payment had been agreed. Wondering however, if you are able to add any more to this?

Either way, surely increasing the size of the operation (as planned) is of benefit to the Airport meeting it's financial obligations.
yes. That may have been an ad hoc arrangement made between Southend Tory administration and the airport operator.

but.

The people of Southend are the owner of the land that the airport is built upon .
as a resident of Southend and a council tax payer, I want to know if the investment is paying off. By technical and absolute definition the airport operator is 'in arrears'

so the question is... Has Stobart Settled the debt?. yes or no...
Why instead of asking us, why don't YOU submit a freedom of information request?

or do you expect everyone else to seek out the information for you.

You seem to hate jobs being created in Southend, why is that?
Because.. Jobs, (particularly in a specific sector) don't necessarily mean wealth or prosperity for the local economy or its citizens. For further reference see George Osborn's economic argument.

Southend airport is a heavily subsidised, preferentially supported and politically endorsed (SBC) organisation that provides non essential services by way of holiday travel. The air industry is one of the most vulnerable and competitive sectors in our economy.

there are two things The airport does have though.

Ever increasing effort.
Ever diminishing return.

History will repeat itself at this location.. you can now orchestrate mass dislikes upon my comment. You can also scan read the entirety of my comment for any possible leverage to use in your constant/contractual need to maintain the reputation of Stobart/Southend council/The local Tory party...
[quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa-del-blowfly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: has Stobart settled its rent arrears owed to the people of Southend yet?[/p][/quote]You made the exact same comment in January, to which you had an answer. That was a schedule of payment had been agreed. Wondering however, if you are able to add any more to this? Either way, surely increasing the size of the operation (as planned) is of benefit to the Airport meeting it's financial obligations.[/p][/quote]yes. That may have been an ad hoc arrangement made between Southend Tory administration and the airport operator. but. The people of Southend are the owner of the land that the airport is built upon . as a resident of Southend and a council tax payer, I want to know if the investment is paying off. By technical and absolute definition the airport operator is 'in arrears' so the question is... Has Stobart Settled the debt?. yes or no...[/p][/quote]Why instead of asking us, why don't YOU submit a freedom of information request? or do you expect everyone else to seek out the information for you. You seem to hate jobs being created in Southend, why is that?[/p][/quote]Because.. Jobs, (particularly in a specific sector) don't necessarily mean wealth or prosperity for the local economy or its citizens. For further reference see George Osborn's economic argument. Southend airport is a heavily subsidised, preferentially supported and politically endorsed (SBC) organisation that provides non essential services by way of holiday travel. The air industry is one of the most vulnerable and competitive sectors in our economy. there are two things The airport does have though. Ever increasing effort. Ever diminishing return. History will repeat itself at this location.. you can now orchestrate mass dislikes upon my comment. You can also scan read the entirety of my comment for any possible leverage to use in your constant/contractual need to maintain the reputation of Stobart/Southend council/The local Tory party... jayman
  • Score: -16

1:32pm Wed 26 Mar 14

tophat27dt says...

It's lunchtime and Jayman is still babbling on with his anti-airport/politic
al hatreds. Get a life. Go to the cinema and watch NON-STOP.
It's lunchtime and Jayman is still babbling on with his anti-airport/politic al hatreds. Get a life. Go to the cinema and watch NON-STOP. tophat27dt
  • Score: 7

4:22pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Joe Clark says...

jayman wrote:
Joe Clark wrote:
jayman wrote:
costa-del-blowfly wrote:
jayman wrote:
has Stobart settled its rent arrears owed to the people of Southend yet?
You made the exact same comment in January, to which you had an answer. That was a schedule of payment had been agreed. Wondering however, if you are able to add any more to this?

Either way, surely increasing the size of the operation (as planned) is of benefit to the Airport meeting it's financial obligations.
yes. That may have been an ad hoc arrangement made between Southend Tory administration and the airport operator.

but.

The people of Southend are the owner of the land that the airport is built upon .
as a resident of Southend and a council tax payer, I want to know if the investment is paying off. By technical and absolute definition the airport operator is 'in arrears'

so the question is... Has Stobart Settled the debt?. yes or no...
Why instead of asking us, why don't YOU submit a freedom of information request?

or do you expect everyone else to seek out the information for you.

You seem to hate jobs being created in Southend, why is that?
Because.. Jobs, (particularly in a specific sector) don't necessarily mean wealth or prosperity for the local economy or its citizens. For further reference see George Osborn's economic argument.

Southend airport is a heavily subsidised, preferentially supported and politically endorsed (SBC) organisation that provides non essential services by way of holiday travel. The air industry is one of the most vulnerable and competitive sectors in our economy.

there are two things The airport does have though.

Ever increasing effort.
Ever diminishing return.

History will repeat itself at this location.. you can now orchestrate mass dislikes upon my comment. You can also scan read the entirety of my comment for any possible leverage to use in your constant/contractual need to maintain the reputation of Stobart/Southend council/The local Tory party...
I don't and never have worked for the Tory's/stobart/counc
il

You seem to have a problem with people who do not share your views and actually post up counter facts, you seem to have a fixation on making aspersions on peoples political views and their employment, such remarks show an argument is being lost and the "low blow" is a last resort at gaining or attempting to gain credibility.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa-del-blowfly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: has Stobart settled its rent arrears owed to the people of Southend yet?[/p][/quote]You made the exact same comment in January, to which you had an answer. That was a schedule of payment had been agreed. Wondering however, if you are able to add any more to this? Either way, surely increasing the size of the operation (as planned) is of benefit to the Airport meeting it's financial obligations.[/p][/quote]yes. That may have been an ad hoc arrangement made between Southend Tory administration and the airport operator. but. The people of Southend are the owner of the land that the airport is built upon . as a resident of Southend and a council tax payer, I want to know if the investment is paying off. By technical and absolute definition the airport operator is 'in arrears' so the question is... Has Stobart Settled the debt?. yes or no...[/p][/quote]Why instead of asking us, why don't YOU submit a freedom of information request? or do you expect everyone else to seek out the information for you. You seem to hate jobs being created in Southend, why is that?[/p][/quote]Because.. Jobs, (particularly in a specific sector) don't necessarily mean wealth or prosperity for the local economy or its citizens. For further reference see George Osborn's economic argument. Southend airport is a heavily subsidised, preferentially supported and politically endorsed (SBC) organisation that provides non essential services by way of holiday travel. The air industry is one of the most vulnerable and competitive sectors in our economy. there are two things The airport does have though. Ever increasing effort. Ever diminishing return. History will repeat itself at this location.. you can now orchestrate mass dislikes upon my comment. You can also scan read the entirety of my comment for any possible leverage to use in your constant/contractual need to maintain the reputation of Stobart/Southend council/The local Tory party...[/p][/quote]I don't and never have worked for the Tory's/stobart/counc il You seem to have a problem with people who do not share your views and actually post up counter facts, you seem to have a fixation on making aspersions on peoples political views and their employment, such remarks show an argument is being lost and the "low blow" is a last resort at gaining or attempting to gain credibility. Joe Clark
  • Score: 9

5:02pm Wed 26 Mar 14

margrete says...

And also, all the nay-sayers who predicted a fall in house prices, people not wanting to live here because of the noise and the smell of avgas. Well, properties used to be on the market for months if not longer - this is no longer happening! Several properties around us have sold within a very short time, and we're still supposed to be in a recession with people tightening their belts.
And also, all the nay-sayers who predicted a fall in house prices, people not wanting to live here because of the noise and the smell of avgas. Well, properties used to be on the market for months if not longer - this is no longer happening! Several properties around us have sold within a very short time, and we're still supposed to be in a recession with people tightening their belts. margrete
  • Score: 5

5:58pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Joe Clark says...

jayman wrote:
Joe Clark wrote:
jayman wrote:
costa-del-blowfly wrote:
jayman wrote:
has Stobart settled its rent arrears owed to the people of Southend yet?
You made the exact same comment in January, to which you had an answer. That was a schedule of payment had been agreed. Wondering however, if you are able to add any more to this?

Either way, surely increasing the size of the operation (as planned) is of benefit to the Airport meeting it's financial obligations.
yes. That may have been an ad hoc arrangement made between Southend Tory administration and the airport operator.

but.

The people of Southend are the owner of the land that the airport is built upon .
as a resident of Southend and a council tax payer, I want to know if the investment is paying off. By technical and absolute definition the airport operator is 'in arrears'

so the question is... Has Stobart Settled the debt?. yes or no...
Why instead of asking us, why don't YOU submit a freedom of information request?

or do you expect everyone else to seek out the information for you.

You seem to hate jobs being created in Southend, why is that?
Because.. Jobs, (particularly in a specific sector) don't necessarily mean wealth or prosperity for the local economy or its citizens. For further reference see George Osborn's economic argument.

Southend airport is a heavily subsidised, preferentially supported and politically endorsed (SBC) organisation that provides non essential services by way of holiday travel. The air industry is one of the most vulnerable and competitive sectors in our economy.

there are two things The airport does have though.

Ever increasing effort.
Ever diminishing return.

History will repeat itself at this location.. you can now orchestrate mass dislikes upon my comment. You can also scan read the entirety of my comment for any possible leverage to use in your constant/contractual need to maintain the reputation of Stobart/Southend council/The local Tory party...
So why did you not answer my question about you yourself seeking a freedom of information request on your question?
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa-del-blowfly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: has Stobart settled its rent arrears owed to the people of Southend yet?[/p][/quote]You made the exact same comment in January, to which you had an answer. That was a schedule of payment had been agreed. Wondering however, if you are able to add any more to this? Either way, surely increasing the size of the operation (as planned) is of benefit to the Airport meeting it's financial obligations.[/p][/quote]yes. That may have been an ad hoc arrangement made between Southend Tory administration and the airport operator. but. The people of Southend are the owner of the land that the airport is built upon . as a resident of Southend and a council tax payer, I want to know if the investment is paying off. By technical and absolute definition the airport operator is 'in arrears' so the question is... Has Stobart Settled the debt?. yes or no...[/p][/quote]Why instead of asking us, why don't YOU submit a freedom of information request? or do you expect everyone else to seek out the information for you. You seem to hate jobs being created in Southend, why is that?[/p][/quote]Because.. Jobs, (particularly in a specific sector) don't necessarily mean wealth or prosperity for the local economy or its citizens. For further reference see George Osborn's economic argument. Southend airport is a heavily subsidised, preferentially supported and politically endorsed (SBC) organisation that provides non essential services by way of holiday travel. The air industry is one of the most vulnerable and competitive sectors in our economy. there are two things The airport does have though. Ever increasing effort. Ever diminishing return. History will repeat itself at this location.. you can now orchestrate mass dislikes upon my comment. You can also scan read the entirety of my comment for any possible leverage to use in your constant/contractual need to maintain the reputation of Stobart/Southend council/The local Tory party...[/p][/quote]So why did you not answer my question about you yourself seeking a freedom of information request on your question? Joe Clark
  • Score: 6

10:33pm Wed 26 Mar 14

jayman says...

Joe Clark wrote:
jayman wrote:
Joe Clark wrote:
jayman wrote:
costa-del-blowfly wrote:
jayman wrote:
has Stobart settled its rent arrears owed to the people of Southend yet?
You made the exact same comment in January, to which you had an answer. That was a schedule of payment had been agreed. Wondering however, if you are able to add any more to this?

Either way, surely increasing the size of the operation (as planned) is of benefit to the Airport meeting it's financial obligations.
yes. That may have been an ad hoc arrangement made between Southend Tory administration and the airport operator.

but.

The people of Southend are the owner of the land that the airport is built upon .
as a resident of Southend and a council tax payer, I want to know if the investment is paying off. By technical and absolute definition the airport operator is 'in arrears'

so the question is... Has Stobart Settled the debt?. yes or no...
Why instead of asking us, why don't YOU submit a freedom of information request?

or do you expect everyone else to seek out the information for you.

You seem to hate jobs being created in Southend, why is that?
Because.. Jobs, (particularly in a specific sector) don't necessarily mean wealth or prosperity for the local economy or its citizens. For further reference see George Osborn's economic argument.

Southend airport is a heavily subsidised, preferentially supported and politically endorsed (SBC) organisation that provides non essential services by way of holiday travel. The air industry is one of the most vulnerable and competitive sectors in our economy.

there are two things The airport does have though.

Ever increasing effort.
Ever diminishing return.

History will repeat itself at this location.. you can now orchestrate mass dislikes upon my comment. You can also scan read the entirety of my comment for any possible leverage to use in your constant/contractual need to maintain the reputation of Stobart/Southend council/The local Tory party...
So why did you not answer my question about you yourself seeking a freedom of information request on your question?
well. I'm waiting for a shiny press release from the parties involved. After all, its getting on an bit and the debt is a bit aged now.

why should i pay £10 for a FOIR when I and everyone else in Southend is already owed money.
[quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa-del-blowfly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: has Stobart settled its rent arrears owed to the people of Southend yet?[/p][/quote]You made the exact same comment in January, to which you had an answer. That was a schedule of payment had been agreed. Wondering however, if you are able to add any more to this? Either way, surely increasing the size of the operation (as planned) is of benefit to the Airport meeting it's financial obligations.[/p][/quote]yes. That may have been an ad hoc arrangement made between Southend Tory administration and the airport operator. but. The people of Southend are the owner of the land that the airport is built upon . as a resident of Southend and a council tax payer, I want to know if the investment is paying off. By technical and absolute definition the airport operator is 'in arrears' so the question is... Has Stobart Settled the debt?. yes or no...[/p][/quote]Why instead of asking us, why don't YOU submit a freedom of information request? or do you expect everyone else to seek out the information for you. You seem to hate jobs being created in Southend, why is that?[/p][/quote]Because.. Jobs, (particularly in a specific sector) don't necessarily mean wealth or prosperity for the local economy or its citizens. For further reference see George Osborn's economic argument. Southend airport is a heavily subsidised, preferentially supported and politically endorsed (SBC) organisation that provides non essential services by way of holiday travel. The air industry is one of the most vulnerable and competitive sectors in our economy. there are two things The airport does have though. Ever increasing effort. Ever diminishing return. History will repeat itself at this location.. you can now orchestrate mass dislikes upon my comment. You can also scan read the entirety of my comment for any possible leverage to use in your constant/contractual need to maintain the reputation of Stobart/Southend council/The local Tory party...[/p][/quote]So why did you not answer my question about you yourself seeking a freedom of information request on your question?[/p][/quote]well. I'm waiting for a shiny press release from the parties involved. After all, its getting on an bit and the debt is a bit aged now. why should i pay £10 for a FOIR when I and everyone else in Southend is already owed money. jayman
  • Score: -8

10:38pm Wed 26 Mar 14

jayman says...

Joe Clark wrote:
jayman wrote:
Joe Clark wrote:
jayman wrote:
costa-del-blowfly wrote:
jayman wrote:
has Stobart settled its rent arrears owed to the people of Southend yet?
You made the exact same comment in January, to which you had an answer. That was a schedule of payment had been agreed. Wondering however, if you are able to add any more to this?

Either way, surely increasing the size of the operation (as planned) is of benefit to the Airport meeting it's financial obligations.
yes. That may have been an ad hoc arrangement made between Southend Tory administration and the airport operator.

but.

The people of Southend are the owner of the land that the airport is built upon .
as a resident of Southend and a council tax payer, I want to know if the investment is paying off. By technical and absolute definition the airport operator is 'in arrears'

so the question is... Has Stobart Settled the debt?. yes or no...
Why instead of asking us, why don't YOU submit a freedom of information request?

or do you expect everyone else to seek out the information for you.

You seem to hate jobs being created in Southend, why is that?
Because.. Jobs, (particularly in a specific sector) don't necessarily mean wealth or prosperity for the local economy or its citizens. For further reference see George Osborn's economic argument.

Southend airport is a heavily subsidised, preferentially supported and politically endorsed (SBC) organisation that provides non essential services by way of holiday travel. The air industry is one of the most vulnerable and competitive sectors in our economy.

there are two things The airport does have though.

Ever increasing effort.
Ever diminishing return.

History will repeat itself at this location.. you can now orchestrate mass dislikes upon my comment. You can also scan read the entirety of my comment for any possible leverage to use in your constant/contractual need to maintain the reputation of Stobart/Southend council/The local Tory party...
I don't and never have worked for the Tory's/stobart/counc

il

You seem to have a problem with people who do not share your views and actually post up counter facts, you seem to have a fixation on making aspersions on peoples political views and their employment, such remarks show an argument is being lost and the "low blow" is a last resort at gaining or attempting to gain credibility.
i don't have a problem, i have a 'suspicion' when someone such as yourself defends a distinct set of corporate entities in a specific fashion over a long period of time without deviation or variation from an official position which is held by the aforementioned corporate entities...
[quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa-del-blowfly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: has Stobart settled its rent arrears owed to the people of Southend yet?[/p][/quote]You made the exact same comment in January, to which you had an answer. That was a schedule of payment had been agreed. Wondering however, if you are able to add any more to this? Either way, surely increasing the size of the operation (as planned) is of benefit to the Airport meeting it's financial obligations.[/p][/quote]yes. That may have been an ad hoc arrangement made between Southend Tory administration and the airport operator. but. The people of Southend are the owner of the land that the airport is built upon . as a resident of Southend and a council tax payer, I want to know if the investment is paying off. By technical and absolute definition the airport operator is 'in arrears' so the question is... Has Stobart Settled the debt?. yes or no...[/p][/quote]Why instead of asking us, why don't YOU submit a freedom of information request? or do you expect everyone else to seek out the information for you. You seem to hate jobs being created in Southend, why is that?[/p][/quote]Because.. Jobs, (particularly in a specific sector) don't necessarily mean wealth or prosperity for the local economy or its citizens. For further reference see George Osborn's economic argument. Southend airport is a heavily subsidised, preferentially supported and politically endorsed (SBC) organisation that provides non essential services by way of holiday travel. The air industry is one of the most vulnerable and competitive sectors in our economy. there are two things The airport does have though. Ever increasing effort. Ever diminishing return. History will repeat itself at this location.. you can now orchestrate mass dislikes upon my comment. You can also scan read the entirety of my comment for any possible leverage to use in your constant/contractual need to maintain the reputation of Stobart/Southend council/The local Tory party...[/p][/quote]I don't and never have worked for the Tory's/stobart/counc il You seem to have a problem with people who do not share your views and actually post up counter facts, you seem to have a fixation on making aspersions on peoples political views and their employment, such remarks show an argument is being lost and the "low blow" is a last resort at gaining or attempting to gain credibility.[/p][/quote]i don't have a problem, i have a 'suspicion' when someone such as yourself defends a distinct set of corporate entities in a specific fashion over a long period of time without deviation or variation from an official position which is held by the aforementioned corporate entities... jayman
  • Score: -8

5:35pm Thu 27 Mar 14

joejoe111 says...

i think this is fantastic news for southend and hopefully this is only the start of an influx of various airlines wanting to fly out of southend.
yeah some people are always going to moan about things but the best thing to do is ignore their negative comments. my advice to everyone on here is totally ignore the likes of jayman, don't even respond to their comments just simply act like they are not there and in the end they'll fade away. people like that thrive on conflict and confrontation so if you treat them like they are invisible they'll soon get bored and go away :)
i think this is fantastic news for southend and hopefully this is only the start of an influx of various airlines wanting to fly out of southend. yeah some people are always going to moan about things but the best thing to do is ignore their negative comments. my advice to everyone on here is totally ignore the likes of jayman, don't even respond to their comments just simply act like they are not there and in the end they'll fade away. people like that thrive on conflict and confrontation so if you treat them like they are invisible they'll soon get bored and go away :) joejoe111
  • Score: 5

11:57pm Thu 27 Mar 14

jayman says...

joejoe111 wrote:
i think this is fantastic news for southend and hopefully this is only the start of an influx of various airlines wanting to fly out of southend.
yeah some people are always going to moan about things but the best thing to do is ignore their negative comments. my advice to everyone on here is totally ignore the likes of jayman, don't even respond to their comments just simply act like they are not there and in the end they'll fade away. people like that thrive on conflict and confrontation so if you treat them like they are invisible they'll soon get bored and go away :)
I have been making comments on here for some time now. Usually on two distinct topics. A, the way this town has been intentionally mismanaged and/or poorly governed by the Tories, B, how we had an airport expansion forced through in a 'coup de fouet' which was orchestrated and managed by influential players. I'm still not satisfied by the reasons given by Southend council for selling 150+ year lease for.... £1! and the fact that 'as far as I can tell' Southend council are yet to receive any rent...

I don't demand or require a response from my comments, though I do find it amusing that some commentators do as part of a PR, 'public image' contractual obligation..
[quote][p][bold]joejoe111[/bold] wrote: i think this is fantastic news for southend and hopefully this is only the start of an influx of various airlines wanting to fly out of southend. yeah some people are always going to moan about things but the best thing to do is ignore their negative comments. my advice to everyone on here is totally ignore the likes of jayman, don't even respond to their comments just simply act like they are not there and in the end they'll fade away. people like that thrive on conflict and confrontation so if you treat them like they are invisible they'll soon get bored and go away :)[/p][/quote]I have been making comments on here for some time now. Usually on two distinct topics. A, the way this town has been intentionally mismanaged and/or poorly governed by the Tories, B, how we had an airport expansion forced through in a 'coup de fouet' which was orchestrated and managed by influential players. I'm still not satisfied by the reasons given by Southend council for selling 150+ year lease for.... £1! and the fact that 'as far as I can tell' Southend council are yet to receive any rent... I don't demand or require a response from my comments, though I do find it amusing that some commentators do as part of a PR, 'public image' contractual obligation.. jayman
  • Score: 0

9:40am Fri 28 Mar 14

openspace says...

jayman wrote:
joejoe111 wrote:
i think this is fantastic news for southend and hopefully this is only the start of an influx of various airlines wanting to fly out of southend.
yeah some people are always going to moan about things but the best thing to do is ignore their negative comments. my advice to everyone on here is totally ignore the likes of jayman, don't even respond to their comments just simply act like they are not there and in the end they'll fade away. people like that thrive on conflict and confrontation so if you treat them like they are invisible they'll soon get bored and go away :)
I have been making comments on here for some time now. Usually on two distinct topics. A, the way this town has been intentionally mismanaged and/or poorly governed by the Tories, B, how we had an airport expansion forced through in a 'coup de fouet' which was orchestrated and managed by influential players. I'm still not satisfied by the reasons given by Southend council for selling 150+ year lease for.... £1! and the fact that 'as far as I can tell' Southend council are yet to receive any rent...

I don't demand or require a response from my comments, though I do find it amusing that some commentators do as part of a PR, 'public image' contractual obligation..
"intentionally mismanaged and/or poorly governed" . You are , of course, entitled to your opinion, but that is all it is , an opinion.
"I'm still not satisfied by the reasons given by Southend council for selling 150+ year lease for.... £1! "
I am sure that the council feel that satisfying you is a very high priority but perhaps they just decided get to rid of an asset they couldn't really handle to a company that would make a great success of it, sale price therefore immaterial.!!!!
As far as " an airport expansion forced through" is concerned. It would have been approved and gone through easily, had it not been for the actions of a small group of serial complainers. Although only a few of my colleagues and friends have used or intend to use, the airport, all are in favour of it, ( including a few that live on the flight path). If this is typical of people in Southend, and it probably is, it would seem that a vast majority of residents are delighted with the way things are going with the airport .
Satisfying you with answers does not normally come up in conversation.
You need to accept the fact that you are part of a tiny minority and that your views are not held by the majority, but I doubt you will.
PS Just a long time resident with no airport or political affiliations.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joejoe111[/bold] wrote: i think this is fantastic news for southend and hopefully this is only the start of an influx of various airlines wanting to fly out of southend. yeah some people are always going to moan about things but the best thing to do is ignore their negative comments. my advice to everyone on here is totally ignore the likes of jayman, don't even respond to their comments just simply act like they are not there and in the end they'll fade away. people like that thrive on conflict and confrontation so if you treat them like they are invisible they'll soon get bored and go away :)[/p][/quote]I have been making comments on here for some time now. Usually on two distinct topics. A, the way this town has been intentionally mismanaged and/or poorly governed by the Tories, B, how we had an airport expansion forced through in a 'coup de fouet' which was orchestrated and managed by influential players. I'm still not satisfied by the reasons given by Southend council for selling 150+ year lease for.... £1! and the fact that 'as far as I can tell' Southend council are yet to receive any rent... I don't demand or require a response from my comments, though I do find it amusing that some commentators do as part of a PR, 'public image' contractual obligation..[/p][/quote]"intentionally mismanaged and/or poorly governed" . You are , of course, entitled to your opinion, but that is all it is , an opinion. "I'm still not satisfied by the reasons given by Southend council for selling 150+ year lease for.... £1! " I am sure that the council feel that satisfying you is a very high priority but perhaps they just decided get to rid of an asset they couldn't really handle to a company that would make a great success of it, sale price therefore immaterial.!!!! As far as " an airport expansion forced through" is concerned. It would have been approved and gone through easily, had it not been for the actions of a small group of serial complainers. Although only a few of my colleagues and friends have used or intend to use, the airport, all are in favour of it, ( including a few that live on the flight path). If this is typical of people in Southend, and it probably is, it would seem that a vast majority of residents are delighted with the way things are going with the airport . Satisfying you with answers does not normally come up in conversation. You need to accept the fact that you are part of a tiny minority and that your views are not held by the majority, but I doubt you will. PS Just a long time resident with no airport or political affiliations. openspace
  • Score: 5

8:23pm Fri 28 Mar 14

joejoe111 says...

i would advice everyone who comments on here not to respond to jayman, he is the most negative person i have ever come across.
i would advice everyone who comments on here not to respond to jayman, he is the most negative person i have ever come across. joejoe111
  • Score: 6

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