Look who's returned to Southend foreshore

Oyster pickers on Southend foreshore

Oyster pickers on Southend foreshore

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OYSTER pickers have returned to Southend foreshore despite a public health crackdown.

Groups of up to six women have been spotted leaving Chalkwell with large bags of oysters after scouring the mudflats for four or five hours a day.

Southend Council, which has confiscated almost 900lb of oysters from suspected illegal harvesters since November, has pledged to investigate after being passed evidence from the Echo.

Rogue collectors may ignore strict procedures to clean oysters, three quarters of which Food Standards Agency research suggest contain the norovirus, before selling them on to restaurants.

Fishermen fear a public health scare could decimate the shellfish industry, which is vital to the local economy.

Paul Gilson, chairman of Leigh and Southend Fishermen’s Association, said: “The fishermen have always been fearful of a food poisoning epidemic.

“There are a huge amount of oysters there, but they should be harvested in a professional manner and treated in the same way.

“The last thing we want is for someone to become ill and that reflect on the industry.”

Groups of women, who arrived, left and collected together, gathered oysters off Chalkwell Esplanade on Friday, Sunday and Monday.

Members of the public are allowed to gather limited numbers of oysters for personal consumption, but commercial operations need official transport documents and oysters must be decontaminated before being sold.

An eyewitness from nearby Crowstone Avenue, Chalkwell, said: “They were definitely working as a group. They all stuck together and walked back together. They are definitely a collective.

“These people have the potential to make people ill.

“I think the police or whoever should regulate them more.”

Dipti Patel, the council’s head of public protection, said: “We cannot say from the images provided whether the quantities constitute personal use or commercial purposes, and without being on site at the time we cannot make any assumptions.

“Residents and visitors are legally able to pick a limited amount of oysters for their own personal consumption and it would not be appropriate for us to discourage that. We do however provide guidance on the safe cooking of oysters.

“We are also aware of a local fisherman crew that recently picked in a similar area over the weekend to provide oysters to a bona fide purchaser.”

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7:00am Fri 16 May 14

whateverhappened says...

Dipti Patel, the council’s head of public protection, said: “We cannot say from the images provided whether the quantities constitute personal use or commercial purposes, and without being on site at the time we cannot make any assumptions.

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Park your on a yellow line southend and within minutes wardens turn up on scooters cars with cameras arrive then the flat foots turn up to give out tickets, yet spend 5 hours a day 3 days a week stealing what could be deadly oysters and the council quote about not being on site to do anything about it.
Dipti Patel, the council’s head of public protection, said: “We cannot say from the images provided whether the quantities constitute personal use or commercial purposes, and without being on site at the time we cannot make any assumptions. . . Park your on a yellow line southend and within minutes wardens turn up on scooters cars with cameras arrive then the flat foots turn up to give out tickets, yet spend 5 hours a day 3 days a week stealing what could be deadly oysters and the council quote about not being on site to do anything about it. whateverhappened
  • Score: 9

9:09am Fri 16 May 14

Keptquiettillnow says...

How is it stealing?
Just the same as fishing with a line and rod.
How is it stealing? Just the same as fishing with a line and rod. Keptquiettillnow
  • Score: -20

9:32am Fri 16 May 14

Howard Cháse says...

Send them down to East Beach at Shoebury......
Send them down to East Beach at Shoebury...... Howard Cháse
  • Score: 2

9:42am Fri 16 May 14

JayRSS1 says...

Keptquiettillnow wrote:
How is it stealing?
Just the same as fishing with a line and rod.
To fish anywhere you need a licence.
[quote][p][bold]Keptquiettillnow[/bold] wrote: How is it stealing? Just the same as fishing with a line and rod.[/p][/quote]To fish anywhere you need a licence. JayRSS1
  • Score: 0

9:44am Fri 16 May 14

JayRSS1 says...

Whoever took the photograph or who notices them just call the police on 101

Job done
Whoever took the photograph or who notices them just call the police on 101 Job done JayRSS1
  • Score: 27

10:22am Fri 16 May 14

pembury53 says...

JayRSS1 wrote:
Whoever took the photograph or who notices them just call the police on 101 Job done
i admire your optimism...
[quote][p][bold]JayRSS1[/bold] wrote: Whoever took the photograph or who notices them just call the police on 101 Job done[/p][/quote]i admire your optimism... pembury53
  • Score: 24

10:23am Fri 16 May 14

Chris Flunk says...

JayRSS1 wrote:
Keptquiettillnow wrote: How is it stealing? Just the same as fishing with a line and rod.
To fish anywhere you need a licence.
No you don't. A UK rod licence is only required if using a rod and line to catch freshwater coarse fish, salmon, trout, and eels. A sea angler does not require a licence.
[quote][p][bold]JayRSS1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keptquiettillnow[/bold] wrote: How is it stealing? Just the same as fishing with a line and rod.[/p][/quote]To fish anywhere you need a licence.[/p][/quote]No you don't. A UK rod licence is only required if using a rod and line to catch freshwater coarse fish, salmon, trout, and eels. A sea angler does not require a licence. Chris Flunk
  • Score: 2

10:47am Fri 16 May 14

Barry Bas says...

I knew a fisherman who always made sure he was perpendicular to the riverbank, he was a right angler.

I'll get my coat.
I knew a fisherman who always made sure he was perpendicular to the riverbank, he was a right angler. I'll get my coat. Barry Bas
  • Score: 1

11:56am Fri 16 May 14

whateverhappened says...

Chris Flunk wrote:
JayRSS1 wrote:
Keptquiettillnow wrote: How is it stealing? Just the same as fishing with a line and rod.
To fish anywhere you need a licence.
No you don't. A UK rod licence is only required if using a rod and line to catch freshwater coarse fish, salmon, trout, and eels. A sea angler does not require a licence.
These are taking for commercial purpose though so some sort of licence must be needed.
[quote][p][bold]Chris Flunk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JayRSS1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keptquiettillnow[/bold] wrote: How is it stealing? Just the same as fishing with a line and rod.[/p][/quote]To fish anywhere you need a licence.[/p][/quote]No you don't. A UK rod licence is only required if using a rod and line to catch freshwater coarse fish, salmon, trout, and eels. A sea angler does not require a licence.[/p][/quote]These are taking for commercial purpose though so some sort of licence must be needed. whateverhappened
  • Score: 16

12:17pm Fri 16 May 14

pembury53 says...

Barry Bas wrote:
I knew a fisherman who always made sure he was perpendicular to the riverbank, he was a right angler. I'll get my coat.
I new a bloke who used a dotted line...... he caught every other fish
[quote][p][bold]Barry Bas[/bold] wrote: I knew a fisherman who always made sure he was perpendicular to the riverbank, he was a right angler. I'll get my coat.[/p][/quote]I new a bloke who used a dotted line...... he caught every other fish pembury53
  • Score: 0

12:49pm Fri 16 May 14

Keptquiettillnow says...

Wasn't Paul Gilson the fisherman who was fined recently?
Very professional
Wasn't Paul Gilson the fisherman who was fined recently? Very professional Keptquiettillnow
  • Score: 1

12:57pm Fri 16 May 14

Howard Cháse says...

With all those human turds discharged into the river recently. They're welcome to them as far as I'm concerned...
With all those human turds discharged into the river recently. They're welcome to them as far as I'm concerned... Howard Cháse
  • Score: 0

2:28pm Fri 16 May 14

Chris Flunk says...

whateverhappened wrote:
Chris Flunk wrote:
JayRSS1 wrote:
Keptquiettillnow wrote: How is it stealing? Just the same as fishing with a line and rod.
To fish anywhere you need a licence.
No you don't. A UK rod licence is only required if using a rod and line to catch freshwater coarse fish, salmon, trout, and eels. A sea angler does not require a licence.
These are taking for commercial purpose though so some sort of licence must be needed.
I'm not sure that you do. It's not a private or regulated shell-fishery. As it states in the article, you would need proper documentation to show that the oysters have been properly processed but I can't find anything to say you'd need a specific licence.

Beside which, the original post was about rod and line fishing and so was my reply.
[quote][p][bold]whateverhappened[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris Flunk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JayRSS1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keptquiettillnow[/bold] wrote: How is it stealing? Just the same as fishing with a line and rod.[/p][/quote]To fish anywhere you need a licence.[/p][/quote]No you don't. A UK rod licence is only required if using a rod and line to catch freshwater coarse fish, salmon, trout, and eels. A sea angler does not require a licence.[/p][/quote]These are taking for commercial purpose though so some sort of licence must be needed.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure that you do. It's not a private or regulated shell-fishery. As it states in the article, you would need proper documentation to show that the oysters have been properly processed but I can't find anything to say you'd need a specific licence. Beside which, the original post was about rod and line fishing and so was my reply. Chris Flunk
  • Score: -6

5:20pm Fri 16 May 14

ThisYear says...

Howard Cháse wrote:
With all those human turds discharged into the river recently. They're welcome to them as far as I'm concerned...
Do readers hope the oysters end up on the menu of the massively subsidised restaurant in the Houses of parliament?

Rather then an 'away day' liaison the roving MP's might find themselves restricted to the little room.
[quote][p][bold]Howard Cháse[/bold] wrote: With all those human turds discharged into the river recently. They're welcome to them as far as I'm concerned...[/p][/quote]Do readers hope the oysters end up on the menu of the massively subsidised restaurant in the Houses of parliament? Rather then an 'away day' liaison the roving MP's might find themselves restricted to the little room. ThisYear
  • Score: -5

5:50pm Fri 16 May 14

CarnMountification says...

Keptquiettillnow wrote:
Wasn't Paul Gilson the fisherman who was fined recently?
Very professional
Yes it was, for fishing over his Quota (STEALING)
[quote][p][bold]Keptquiettillnow[/bold] wrote: Wasn't Paul Gilson the fisherman who was fined recently? Very professional[/p][/quote]Yes it was, for fishing over his Quota (STEALING) CarnMountification
  • Score: 1

6:33pm Fri 16 May 14

iknowbetter says...

JayRSS1 wrote:
Keptquiettillnow wrote:
How is it stealing?
Just the same as fishing with a line and rod.
To fish anywhere you need a licence.
No you dont!!! Sea fishing for pleasure is still FREE.
[quote][p][bold]JayRSS1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keptquiettillnow[/bold] wrote: How is it stealing? Just the same as fishing with a line and rod.[/p][/quote]To fish anywhere you need a licence.[/p][/quote]No you dont!!! Sea fishing for pleasure is still FREE. iknowbetter
  • Score: 1

6:34pm Fri 16 May 14

Nebs says...

pembury53 wrote:
JayRSS1 wrote:
Whoever took the photograph or who notices them just call the police on 101 Job done
i admire your optimism...
Better to phone the local fishermen. They'd do a better job than the authorities.
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JayRSS1[/bold] wrote: Whoever took the photograph or who notices them just call the police on 101 Job done[/p][/quote]i admire your optimism...[/p][/quote]Better to phone the local fishermen. They'd do a better job than the authorities. Nebs
  • Score: 13

6:38pm Fri 16 May 14

the25man says...

Watch out we will be have a camera boat out there shortly
Watch out we will be have a camera boat out there shortly the25man
  • Score: 0

7:20pm Fri 16 May 14

jayman says...

JayRSS1 wrote:
Keptquiettillnow wrote:
How is it stealing?
Just the same as fishing with a line and rod.
To fish anywhere you need a licence.
no you dont... beach cast fishing and picking require no licence. says the Magna Carta apparently..

http://britishseafis
hing.co.uk/sea-fishi
ng-anglers-rights-an
d-the-magna-carta/
[quote][p][bold]JayRSS1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keptquiettillnow[/bold] wrote: How is it stealing? Just the same as fishing with a line and rod.[/p][/quote]To fish anywhere you need a licence.[/p][/quote]no you dont... beach cast fishing and picking require no licence. says the Magna Carta apparently.. http://britishseafis hing.co.uk/sea-fishi ng-anglers-rights-an d-the-magna-carta/ jayman
  • Score: 0

7:21pm Fri 16 May 14

jayman says...

thought the shell fish is bound to be packed with e-coli due to London sewer discharge...
thought the shell fish is bound to be packed with e-coli due to London sewer discharge... jayman
  • Score: 11

8:27pm Sat 17 May 14

Nelly99 says...

Oh Thank G*d. When I saw that headline I thought Anna Waite had escaped again!
Oh Thank G*d. When I saw that headline I thought Anna Waite had escaped again! Nelly99
  • Score: 0

1:08pm Mon 19 May 14

stopmoaning1 says...

JayRSS1 wrote:
Whoever took the photograph or who notices them just call the police on 101

Job done
Why do people think the police have any powers to deal with this, it's a civil matter the local council should be enforcing.
[quote][p][bold]JayRSS1[/bold] wrote: Whoever took the photograph or who notices them just call the police on 101 Job done[/p][/quote]Why do people think the police have any powers to deal with this, it's a civil matter the local council should be enforcing. stopmoaning1
  • Score: -3

11:33am Wed 21 May 14

Canvey van says...

Is it possible these people are after the pearls in these Oysters?. They might not be just eating them.
Also how can you set the boundaries of personal use?. They could have a big family who all eat oysters.
Is it possible these people are after the pearls in these Oysters?. They might not be just eating them. Also how can you set the boundaries of personal use?. They could have a big family who all eat oysters. Canvey van
  • Score: 0

12:31pm Wed 21 May 14

pussycats says...

Canvey van wrote:
Is it possible these people are after the pearls in these Oysters?. They might not be just eating them.
Also how can you set the boundaries of personal use?. They could have a big family who all eat oysters.
And as Oysters are known to be an aphrodisiac, the more Oysters they eat...the bigger the family!
[quote][p][bold]Canvey van[/bold] wrote: Is it possible these people are after the pearls in these Oysters?. They might not be just eating them. Also how can you set the boundaries of personal use?. They could have a big family who all eat oysters.[/p][/quote]And as Oysters are known to be an aphrodisiac, the more Oysters they eat...the bigger the family! pussycats
  • Score: 2

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