Benfleet horseriders are on the warpath

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WORRIED horse riders have raised concerns over the condition of ageing bridleways in Benfleet.

Residents say numerous bridleways have been in constant use for more than 40 years, but due to lack of maintenance have fallen into disrepair, creating dangers for riders and horses.

Julia Burch, 46, of Badgers Way, said the paths need to be resurfaced as they easily flood and trees surrounding the bridleways need cutting back, so riders can see where they are going.

Ms Burch said: “Benfleet has a huge horseriding community and these bridleways are constantly used. They haven’t been touched in years. No one is resurfacing them and it’s making them impossible to use.

“Work needs to be done to fix them. They aren’t only used by horses and riders, but cyclists and walkers – making it dangerous for everybody.

“It is like an accident waiting to happen. They are that bad.”

Damien Stone, general manager at Braeside Equestrian Centre, in Great Burches Road, said: “The bridleways are neglected; the surface floods, but goes rock hard in the sun. It is dangerous for horses and people.”

Riders are also worried about the future of some bridlepaths as they surround areas earmarked for development under the local plan.

Lynne Marriott, 46, of Almar Close, said: “The bridleways need to be sorted out. They need to be discussed as part of the local plan. Castle Point Council needs to pay more attention to the equestrian community. The council is very aware of these problems, but it seems as if it is choosing to ignore it.”

Norman Smith, Conservative councillor for Boyce ward, said he was willing to meet residents bver bridleways.

He said: “In terms of future bridleways, they will be considered in the consultation process of the draft local plan. I ammore than happy to meet residents to discuss plans and existing bridleways.”

An Essex Highways spokesman added: “These are unmade roads and being bridleways would not receive the same standard of maintenance as the highway network routes where our main aim is to ensure the safe movement of people and goods; this would not apply to an unmade road.

“Nevertheless, the concerns of residents are appreciated and we will arrange for an inspector to visit carry out an assessment.”

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4:08pm Tue 20 May 14

landydave says...

essex highways dont maintain the roads either! what exactly are they doing? granted, bridal ways dont get the same level of maintenance as a road but there simply isnt anything being done.
essex highways dont maintain the roads either! what exactly are they doing? granted, bridal ways dont get the same level of maintenance as a road but there simply isnt anything being done. landydave
  • Score: 7

4:10pm Tue 20 May 14

The King of Southend says...

Out of interest who pays for the maintenance of bridleways?

If it isn't horse owners then I don't see what they have to complain about - the taxpayer should not be picking up the bill for your hobby.
Out of interest who pays for the maintenance of bridleways? If it isn't horse owners then I don't see what they have to complain about - the taxpayer should not be picking up the bill for your hobby. The King of Southend
  • Score: 4

4:24pm Tue 20 May 14

Eric the Red says...

The King of Southend wrote:
Out of interest who pays for the maintenance of bridleways?

If it isn't horse owners then I don't see what they have to complain about - the taxpayer should not be picking up the bill for your hobby.
The local authority has a statutory duty to maintain public highways - be it paths for walkers, horses and cyclists; pavements for pedestrians; roads for vehicles......THAT's what they collect council tax for!
[quote][p][bold]The King of Southend[/bold] wrote: Out of interest who pays for the maintenance of bridleways? If it isn't horse owners then I don't see what they have to complain about - the taxpayer should not be picking up the bill for your hobby.[/p][/quote]The local authority has a statutory duty to maintain public highways - be it paths for walkers, horses and cyclists; pavements for pedestrians; roads for vehicles......THAT's what they collect council tax for! Eric the Red
  • Score: 8

4:32pm Tue 20 May 14

pembury53 says...

they'll all be gone anyway, once the local plan is executed, to its full extent.... make sure those horse shoes are fit for road usage...
they'll all be gone anyway, once the local plan is executed, to its full extent.... make sure those horse shoes are fit for road usage... pembury53
  • Score: 3

5:16pm Tue 20 May 14

ShipShape says...

Bloody cruelty if you ask me. How'd all those people fit onto that horse?
Bloody cruelty if you ask me. How'd all those people fit onto that horse? ShipShape
  • Score: 7

5:50pm Tue 20 May 14

Julescb says...

As residents of Castle Point local horse riders pay Council Tax, income tax, national insurance VAT and any other form of tax the government levies. The bridleways are used by walkers, cyclists as well as horse riders and enable people to enjoy the local environmen,t take exercise, enjoy the wildlife in a safe environment away from the increasingly congested roads.
As residents of Castle Point local horse riders pay Council Tax, income tax, national insurance VAT and any other form of tax the government levies. The bridleways are used by walkers, cyclists as well as horse riders and enable people to enjoy the local environmen,t take exercise, enjoy the wildlife in a safe environment away from the increasingly congested roads. Julescb
  • Score: 6

6:26pm Tue 20 May 14

Cor Blimey says...

That bird in the blue top should be riding Elephants not horses! ............break their b!oody backs
That bird in the blue top should be riding Elephants not horses! ............break their b!oody backs Cor Blimey
  • Score: 3

7:46pm Tue 20 May 14

hothead says...

Julescb wrote:
As residents of Castle Point local horse riders pay Council Tax, income tax, national insurance VAT and any other form of tax the government levies. The bridleways are used by walkers, cyclists as well as horse riders and enable people to enjoy the local environmen,t take exercise, enjoy the wildlife in a safe environment away from the increasingly congested roads.
Shame that the horse owners are not made to clear up their mess though!
[quote][p][bold]Julescb[/bold] wrote: As residents of Castle Point local horse riders pay Council Tax, income tax, national insurance VAT and any other form of tax the government levies. The bridleways are used by walkers, cyclists as well as horse riders and enable people to enjoy the local environmen,t take exercise, enjoy the wildlife in a safe environment away from the increasingly congested roads.[/p][/quote]Shame that the horse owners are not made to clear up their mess though! hothead
  • Score: 2

10:45pm Tue 20 May 14

saarfender says...

' Ms Burch said: “Work needs to be done to fix them. They aren’t only used by horses and riders, but cyclists and walkers – making it dangerous for everybody"'

I used to cycle and walk the bridleways and unmade tracks of Benfleet - but had to stop because of how badly the horse riders churned them up. Maybe once they do get fixed then equestrians can be banned from using them so that the majority of us can once again enjoy access to the area.
' Ms Burch said: “Work needs to be done to fix them. They aren’t only used by horses and riders, but cyclists and walkers – making it dangerous for everybody"' I used to cycle and walk the bridleways and unmade tracks of Benfleet - but had to stop because of how badly the horse riders churned them up. Maybe once they do get fixed then equestrians can be banned from using them so that the majority of us can once again enjoy access to the area. saarfender
  • Score: 2

10:55pm Tue 20 May 14

RedRoo says...

Bridle paths are public rights of way. Consequently they are maintained out of the public purse, whether or not any one individual uses them.

We are the (tax paying) public and bridleways are part of our rights, even if we don't use them personally.

The opinion that they are for someone else's hobby is misguided. What needs to be emphasised is that they are rights, we earned and we pay for them, and if someone doesn't stand up and speak they will be removed without notice. Removing the responsibility for maintenance of bridleways from local councils would not result in lower taxes, the local tax obligation has never been reduced in real terms, only capped (therefore being reduced relative to inflation but saving the central government money – best not to get me started on this).

In their current state, if someone were to be injured using one of the paths they would have a very good case against the council as in some places the condition of the rights of way is hazardous. So the several hundred pounds saved by not maintaining the paths in a serviceable condition would pale in significance to the fees levied by lawyers settling the case.

As rights of way they need to be maintained for public safety as well as amenity.
Bridle paths are public rights of way. Consequently they are maintained out of the public purse, whether or not any one individual uses them. We are the (tax paying) public and bridleways are part of our rights, even if we don't use them personally. The opinion that they are for someone else's hobby is misguided. What needs to be emphasised is that they are rights, we earned and we pay for them, and if someone doesn't stand up and speak they will be removed without notice. Removing the responsibility for maintenance of bridleways from local councils would not result in lower taxes, the local tax obligation has never been reduced in real terms, only capped (therefore being reduced relative to inflation but saving the central government money – best not to get me started on this). In their current state, if someone were to be injured using one of the paths they would have a very good case against the council as in some places the condition of the rights of way is hazardous. So the several hundred pounds saved by not maintaining the paths in a serviceable condition would pale in significance to the fees levied by lawyers settling the case. As rights of way they need to be maintained for public safety as well as amenity. RedRoo
  • Score: 10

11:20pm Tue 20 May 14

RedRoo says...

saarfender wrote:
' Ms Burch said: “Work needs to be done to fix them. They aren’t only used by horses and riders, but cyclists and walkers – making it dangerous for everybody"'

I used to cycle and walk the bridleways and unmade tracks of Benfleet - but had to stop because of how badly the horse riders churned them up. Maybe once they do get fixed then equestrians can be banned from using them so that the majority of us can once again enjoy access to the area.
You may want to revise your knowledge of what the rights of bridle ways are. As far as the Countryside Act 1968 is concerned we cyclists are Johnny come lately.

Section 30 of the Countryside Act 1968 states:

Riding of pedal bicycles on bridleways.

(1)Any member of the public shall have, as a right of way, the right to ride a bicycle, , on any bridleway, but in exercising that right cyclists shall give way to pedestrians and persons on horseback.

(2)Subsection (1) above has effect subject to any orders made by a local authority, and to any byelaws.

(3)The rights conferred by this section shall not affect the obligations of the highway authority, or of any other person, as respects the maintenance of the bridleway, and this section shall not create any obligation to do anything to facilitate the use of the bridleway by cyclists.

(4)Subsection (1) above shall not affect any definition of “bridleway” in this or any other Act.

[quote][p][bold]saarfender[/bold] wrote: ' Ms Burch said: “Work needs to be done to fix them. They aren’t only used by horses and riders, but cyclists and walkers – making it dangerous for everybody"' I used to cycle and walk the bridleways and unmade tracks of Benfleet - but had to stop because of how badly the horse riders churned them up. Maybe once they do get fixed then equestrians can be banned from using them so that the majority of us can once again enjoy access to the area.[/p][/quote]You may want to revise your knowledge of what the rights of bridle ways are. As far as the Countryside Act 1968 is concerned we cyclists are Johnny come lately. Section 30 of the Countryside Act 1968 states: Riding of pedal bicycles on bridleways. (1)Any member of the public shall have, as a right of way, the right to ride a bicycle, [F1not being a mechanically propelled vehicle], on any bridleway, but in exercising that right cyclists shall give way to pedestrians and persons on horseback. (2)Subsection (1) above has effect subject to any orders made by a local authority, and to any byelaws. (3)The rights conferred by this section shall not affect the obligations of the highway authority, or of any other person, as respects the maintenance of the bridleway, and this section shall not create any obligation to do anything to facilitate the use of the bridleway by cyclists. (4)Subsection (1) above shall not affect any definition of “bridleway” in this or any other Act. [F2(5)In this section “mechanically propelled vehicle” does not include a vehicle falling within paragraph (c) of section 189(1) of the Road Traffic Act 1988.] RedRoo
  • Score: 4

11:33pm Tue 20 May 14

Old Southendian says...

saarfender wrote:
' Ms Burch said: “Work needs to be done to fix them. They aren’t only used by horses and riders, but cyclists and walkers – making it dangerous for everybody"'

I used to cycle and walk the bridleways and unmade tracks of Benfleet - but had to stop because of how badly the horse riders churned them up. Maybe once they do get fixed then equestrians can be banned from using them so that the majority of us can once again enjoy access to the area.
Various persons have fought long and hard to get Castle Point to have bridleways when there were none only a few years ago. Of course they are not damaged by motor bikes, quad bikes and the usual satnav following driver who frequently gets stuck in car or even large van and has to be usually ungratefully rescued by a local with some agricultural equipment. The deep ruts are tyre tracks, not hoof prints. So you want to ban horses from bridleways, I think you miss the point of having them!
[quote][p][bold]saarfender[/bold] wrote: ' Ms Burch said: “Work needs to be done to fix them. They aren’t only used by horses and riders, but cyclists and walkers – making it dangerous for everybody"' I used to cycle and walk the bridleways and unmade tracks of Benfleet - but had to stop because of how badly the horse riders churned them up. Maybe once they do get fixed then equestrians can be banned from using them so that the majority of us can once again enjoy access to the area.[/p][/quote]Various persons have fought long and hard to get Castle Point to have bridleways when there were none only a few years ago. Of course they are not damaged by motor bikes, quad bikes and the usual satnav following driver who frequently gets stuck in car or even large van and has to be usually ungratefully rescued by a local with some agricultural equipment. The deep ruts are tyre tracks, not hoof prints. So you want to ban horses from bridleways, I think you miss the point of having them! Old Southendian
  • Score: 4

11:39pm Tue 20 May 14

Old Southendian says...

Thank you RedRoo for clarifying and knowing your position as a cyclist.
Thank you RedRoo for clarifying and knowing your position as a cyclist. Old Southendian
  • Score: 3

6:08am Wed 21 May 14

Keptquiettillnow says...

Old Southendian wrote:
Thank you RedRoo for clarifying and knowing your position as a cyclist.
Is that a crime then?
[quote][p][bold]Old Southendian[/bold] wrote: Thank you RedRoo for clarifying and knowing your position as a cyclist.[/p][/quote]Is that a crime then? Keptquiettillnow
  • Score: -2

10:19am Wed 21 May 14

Rat-man says...

Various persons have fought long and hard to get Castle Point to have bridleways when there were none only a few years ago.

Oh dear, for some peculiar reason there is much confusion about whose responsibility this Bridle Track is.

Allow me to put you right.

It is Essex County Council at Chelmsford who are responsible.

And your county councillor (UKIP) is the one of whom you should be asking questions. You won't get too many answers though.
Various persons have fought long and hard to get Castle Point to have bridleways when there were none only a few years ago. Oh dear, for some peculiar reason there is much confusion about whose responsibility this Bridle Track is. Allow me to put you right. It is Essex County Council at Chelmsford who are responsible. And your county councillor (UKIP) is the one of whom you should be asking questions. You won't get too many answers though. Rat-man
  • Score: 3

12:23pm Wed 21 May 14

Letmetryagain says...

Perhaps those who are complaining about their condition, should organize a working party, and have a go themselves ?
Perhaps those who are complaining about their condition, should organize a working party, and have a go themselves ? Letmetryagain
  • Score: 3

1:02pm Wed 21 May 14

yellowfairy says...

Why bother with bridleways, the horsey people normally clog up the roads, riding side by side, then leave the dung from the horses on the road for others to pick up. They also churn up football pitches and parks so i don't know what they're whinging about, they don't care about others only themselves.
Why bother with bridleways, the horsey people normally clog up the roads, riding side by side, then leave the dung from the horses on the road for others to pick up. They also churn up football pitches and parks so i don't know what they're whinging about, they don't care about others only themselves. yellowfairy
  • Score: -4

1:06pm Wed 21 May 14

yellowfairy says...

RedRoo wrote:
Bridle paths are public rights of way. Consequently they are maintained out of the public purse, whether or not any one individual uses them.

We are the (tax paying) public and bridleways are part of our rights, even if we don't use them personally.

The opinion that they are for someone else's hobby is misguided. What needs to be emphasised is that they are rights, we earned and we pay for them, and if someone doesn't stand up and speak they will be removed without notice. Removing the responsibility for maintenance of bridleways from local councils would not result in lower taxes, the local tax obligation has never been reduced in real terms, only capped (therefore being reduced relative to inflation but saving the central government money – best not to get me started on this).

In their current state, if someone were to be injured using one of the paths they would have a very good case against the council as in some places the condition of the rights of way is hazardous. So the several hundred pounds saved by not maintaining the paths in a serviceable condition would pale in significance to the fees levied by lawyers settling the case.

As rights of way they need to be maintained for public safety as well as amenity.
As usual me, me, me.
[quote][p][bold]RedRoo[/bold] wrote: Bridle paths are public rights of way. Consequently they are maintained out of the public purse, whether or not any one individual uses them. We are the (tax paying) public and bridleways are part of our rights, even if we don't use them personally. The opinion that they are for someone else's hobby is misguided. What needs to be emphasised is that they are rights, we earned and we pay for them, and if someone doesn't stand up and speak they will be removed without notice. Removing the responsibility for maintenance of bridleways from local councils would not result in lower taxes, the local tax obligation has never been reduced in real terms, only capped (therefore being reduced relative to inflation but saving the central government money – best not to get me started on this). In their current state, if someone were to be injured using one of the paths they would have a very good case against the council as in some places the condition of the rights of way is hazardous. So the several hundred pounds saved by not maintaining the paths in a serviceable condition would pale in significance to the fees levied by lawyers settling the case. As rights of way they need to be maintained for public safety as well as amenity.[/p][/quote]As usual me, me, me. yellowfairy
  • Score: -5

1:52pm Wed 21 May 14

Old Southendian says...

Letmetryagain wrote:
Perhaps those who are complaining about their condition, should organize a working party, and have a go themselves ?
Working parties have been organised in the past.
[quote][p][bold]Letmetryagain[/bold] wrote: Perhaps those who are complaining about their condition, should organize a working party, and have a go themselves ?[/p][/quote]Working parties have been organised in the past. Old Southendian
  • Score: 2

2:23pm Wed 21 May 14

saarfender says...

Old Southendian wrote:
saarfender wrote:
' Ms Burch said: “Work needs to be done to fix them. They aren’t only used by horses and riders, but cyclists and walkers – making it dangerous for everybody"'

I used to cycle and walk the bridleways and unmade tracks of Benfleet - but had to stop because of how badly the horse riders churned them up. Maybe once they do get fixed then equestrians can be banned from using them so that the majority of us can once again enjoy access to the area.
Various persons have fought long and hard to get Castle Point to have bridleways when there were none only a few years ago. Of course they are not damaged by motor bikes, quad bikes and the usual satnav following driver who frequently gets stuck in car or even large van and has to be usually ungratefully rescued by a local with some agricultural equipment. The deep ruts are tyre tracks, not hoof prints. So you want to ban horses from bridleways, I think you miss the point of having them!
I said nothing about tyre ruts. I stated that horse riders had churned them up.

Every winter, until I gave up using the bridleways, they were churned into a quagmire of deep hoof prints (over a foot deep) which prevented any pedestrian walking on the surface, or cyclist riding over it. At times I was sinking deeper than my hubs and getting totally bogged down. It was horse riders damaging the bridleways, not any other user - be it legal or illegal.
[quote][p][bold]Old Southendian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saarfender[/bold] wrote: ' Ms Burch said: “Work needs to be done to fix them. They aren’t only used by horses and riders, but cyclists and walkers – making it dangerous for everybody"' I used to cycle and walk the bridleways and unmade tracks of Benfleet - but had to stop because of how badly the horse riders churned them up. Maybe once they do get fixed then equestrians can be banned from using them so that the majority of us can once again enjoy access to the area.[/p][/quote]Various persons have fought long and hard to get Castle Point to have bridleways when there were none only a few years ago. Of course they are not damaged by motor bikes, quad bikes and the usual satnav following driver who frequently gets stuck in car or even large van and has to be usually ungratefully rescued by a local with some agricultural equipment. The deep ruts are tyre tracks, not hoof prints. So you want to ban horses from bridleways, I think you miss the point of having them![/p][/quote]I said nothing about tyre ruts. I stated that horse riders had churned them up. Every winter, until I gave up using the bridleways, they were churned into a quagmire of deep hoof prints (over a foot deep) which prevented any pedestrian walking on the surface, or cyclist riding over it. At times I was sinking deeper than my hubs and getting totally bogged down. It was horse riders damaging the bridleways, not any other user - be it legal or illegal. saarfender
  • Score: -1

2:29pm Wed 21 May 14

saarfender says...

RedRoo wrote:
saarfender wrote:
' Ms Burch said: “Work needs to be done to fix them. They aren’t only used by horses and riders, but cyclists and walkers – making it dangerous for everybody"'

I used to cycle and walk the bridleways and unmade tracks of Benfleet - but had to stop because of how badly the horse riders churned them up. Maybe once they do get fixed then equestrians can be banned from using them so that the majority of us can once again enjoy access to the area.
You may want to revise your knowledge of what the rights of bridle ways are. As far as the Countryside Act 1968 is concerned we cyclists are Johnny come lately.

Section 30 of the Countryside Act 1968 states:

Riding of pedal bicycles on bridleways.

(1)Any member of the public shall have, as a right of way, the right to ride a bicycle, , on any bridleway, but in exercising that right cyclists shall give way to pedestrians and persons on horseback.

(2)Subsection (1) above has effect subject to any orders made by a local authority, and to any byelaws.

(3)The rights conferred by this section shall not affect the obligations of the highway authority, or of any other person, as respects the maintenance of the bridleway, and this section shall not create any obligation to do anything to facilitate the use of the bridleway by cyclists.

(4)Subsection (1) above shall not affect any definition of “bridleway” in this or any other Act.

I am more aware of that legislation that you realise.

At what point did I say that I did not give way to pedestrians/equestri
ans? (point 1)

And since the subject of this article is that it is the horse riders themselves complaining that the bridleways are no longer safe for use by riders, how does that equate to point 3, maintenance of bridleways for cyclists?



I merely pointed out that in my experience the people doing the most damage to the bridleways were the horse riders themselves. The horse riders are saying they need to be repaired for pedestrians and cyclists, as well as themselves, so therefore wouldn't it make sense to ban the culprits doing the damage so that repairs undertaken in the name of pedestrians and cyclists don't rapidly fall back into disrepair?
[quote][p][bold]RedRoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saarfender[/bold] wrote: ' Ms Burch said: “Work needs to be done to fix them. They aren’t only used by horses and riders, but cyclists and walkers – making it dangerous for everybody"' I used to cycle and walk the bridleways and unmade tracks of Benfleet - but had to stop because of how badly the horse riders churned them up. Maybe once they do get fixed then equestrians can be banned from using them so that the majority of us can once again enjoy access to the area.[/p][/quote]You may want to revise your knowledge of what the rights of bridle ways are. As far as the Countryside Act 1968 is concerned we cyclists are Johnny come lately. Section 30 of the Countryside Act 1968 states: Riding of pedal bicycles on bridleways. (1)Any member of the public shall have, as a right of way, the right to ride a bicycle, [F1not being a mechanically propelled vehicle], on any bridleway, but in exercising that right cyclists shall give way to pedestrians and persons on horseback. (2)Subsection (1) above has effect subject to any orders made by a local authority, and to any byelaws. (3)The rights conferred by this section shall not affect the obligations of the highway authority, or of any other person, as respects the maintenance of the bridleway, and this section shall not create any obligation to do anything to facilitate the use of the bridleway by cyclists. (4)Subsection (1) above shall not affect any definition of “bridleway” in this or any other Act. [F2(5)In this section “mechanically propelled vehicle” does not include a vehicle falling within paragraph (c) of section 189(1) of the Road Traffic Act 1988.][/p][/quote]I am more aware of that legislation that you realise. At what point did I say that I did not give way to pedestrians/equestri ans? (point 1) And since the subject of this article is that it is the horse riders themselves complaining that the bridleways are no longer safe for use by riders, how does that equate to point 3, maintenance of bridleways for cyclists? I merely pointed out that in my experience the people doing the most damage to the bridleways were the horse riders themselves. The horse riders are saying they need to be repaired for pedestrians and cyclists, as well as themselves, so therefore wouldn't it make sense to ban the culprits doing the damage so that repairs undertaken in the name of pedestrians and cyclists don't rapidly fall back into disrepair? saarfender
  • Score: 2

5:52pm Wed 21 May 14

Old Southendian says...

saarfender wrote:
Old Southendian wrote:
saarfender wrote:
' Ms Burch said: “Work needs to be done to fix them. They aren’t only used by horses and riders, but cyclists and walkers – making it dangerous for everybody"'

I used to cycle and walk the bridleways and unmade tracks of Benfleet - but had to stop because of how badly the horse riders churned them up. Maybe once they do get fixed then equestrians can be banned from using them so that the majority of us can once again enjoy access to the area.
Various persons have fought long and hard to get Castle Point to have bridleways when there were none only a few years ago. Of course they are not damaged by motor bikes, quad bikes and the usual satnav following driver who frequently gets stuck in car or even large van and has to be usually ungratefully rescued by a local with some agricultural equipment. The deep ruts are tyre tracks, not hoof prints. So you want to ban horses from bridleways, I think you miss the point of having them!
I said nothing about tyre ruts. I stated that horse riders had churned them up.

Every winter, until I gave up using the bridleways, they were churned into a quagmire of deep hoof prints (over a foot deep) which prevented any pedestrian walking on the surface, or cyclist riding over it. At times I was sinking deeper than my hubs and getting totally bogged down. It was horse riders damaging the bridleways, not any other user - be it legal or illegal.
There are tyre ruts from vehicles and vehicles have had to be pulled out this past winter when they were stuck axle deep.
[quote][p][bold]saarfender[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Southendian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saarfender[/bold] wrote: ' Ms Burch said: “Work needs to be done to fix them. They aren’t only used by horses and riders, but cyclists and walkers – making it dangerous for everybody"' I used to cycle and walk the bridleways and unmade tracks of Benfleet - but had to stop because of how badly the horse riders churned them up. Maybe once they do get fixed then equestrians can be banned from using them so that the majority of us can once again enjoy access to the area.[/p][/quote]Various persons have fought long and hard to get Castle Point to have bridleways when there were none only a few years ago. Of course they are not damaged by motor bikes, quad bikes and the usual satnav following driver who frequently gets stuck in car or even large van and has to be usually ungratefully rescued by a local with some agricultural equipment. The deep ruts are tyre tracks, not hoof prints. So you want to ban horses from bridleways, I think you miss the point of having them![/p][/quote]I said nothing about tyre ruts. I stated that horse riders had churned them up. Every winter, until I gave up using the bridleways, they were churned into a quagmire of deep hoof prints (over a foot deep) which prevented any pedestrian walking on the surface, or cyclist riding over it. At times I was sinking deeper than my hubs and getting totally bogged down. It was horse riders damaging the bridleways, not any other user - be it legal or illegal.[/p][/quote]There are tyre ruts from vehicles and vehicles have had to be pulled out this past winter when they were stuck axle deep. Old Southendian
  • Score: 1

6:05pm Wed 21 May 14

Old Southendian says...

For those that are unaware the bridleways were established a few years ago in order to provide somewhere safe for riders rather than the roadways at a time when Castle Point was one of the few local authorities in the Country without any designated bridleways. They are not well maintained - hedges are not cut back - and they are used by an increasing number of vehicles which undoubtedly contributes to wear and tear. That is a fact.
For those that are unaware the bridleways were established a few years ago in order to provide somewhere safe for riders rather than the roadways at a time when Castle Point was one of the few local authorities in the Country without any designated bridleways. They are not well maintained - hedges are not cut back - and they are used by an increasing number of vehicles which undoubtedly contributes to wear and tear. That is a fact. Old Southendian
  • Score: 3

6:31pm Wed 21 May 14

Eric the Red says...

Old Southendian wrote:
For those that are unaware the bridleways were established a few years ago in order to provide somewhere safe for riders rather than the roadways at a time when Castle Point was one of the few local authorities in the Country without any designated bridleways. They are not well maintained - hedges are not cut back - and they are used by an increasing number of vehicles which undoubtedly contributes to wear and tear. That is a fact.
The only vehicles legally entitled to use bridleways are pedal cycles.
[quote][p][bold]Old Southendian[/bold] wrote: For those that are unaware the bridleways were established a few years ago in order to provide somewhere safe for riders rather than the roadways at a time when Castle Point was one of the few local authorities in the Country without any designated bridleways. They are not well maintained - hedges are not cut back - and they are used by an increasing number of vehicles which undoubtedly contributes to wear and tear. That is a fact.[/p][/quote]The only vehicles legally entitled to use bridleways are pedal cycles. Eric the Red
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6:51pm Wed 21 May 14

Old Southendian says...

Eric the Red wrote:
Old Southendian wrote:
For those that are unaware the bridleways were established a few years ago in order to provide somewhere safe for riders rather than the roadways at a time when Castle Point was one of the few local authorities in the Country without any designated bridleways. They are not well maintained - hedges are not cut back - and they are used by an increasing number of vehicles which undoubtedly contributes to wear and tear. That is a fact.
The only vehicles legally entitled to use bridleways are pedal cycles.
Perhaps I should have said "motor" vehicles. I don't think most riders have an issue with pedal cyclists. Let's agree the bridleways are not fit for purpose and, whoever is responsible for maintenance is clearly not performing, as there are sections which remain satisfactory and firm during the winter and other areas that turn into a bog. And some of this is due to poor land drainage and damage - or lack of maintenance - by utilities companies, etc of old land drainage and general drainage systems, i.e. ditches.
[quote][p][bold]Eric the Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Southendian[/bold] wrote: For those that are unaware the bridleways were established a few years ago in order to provide somewhere safe for riders rather than the roadways at a time when Castle Point was one of the few local authorities in the Country without any designated bridleways. They are not well maintained - hedges are not cut back - and they are used by an increasing number of vehicles which undoubtedly contributes to wear and tear. That is a fact.[/p][/quote]The only vehicles legally entitled to use bridleways are pedal cycles.[/p][/quote]Perhaps I should have said "motor" vehicles. I don't think most riders have an issue with pedal cyclists. Let's agree the bridleways are not fit for purpose and, whoever is responsible for maintenance is clearly not performing, as there are sections which remain satisfactory and firm during the winter and other areas that turn into a bog. And some of this is due to poor land drainage and damage - or lack of maintenance - by utilities companies, etc of old land drainage and general drainage systems, i.e. ditches. Old Southendian
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4:20pm Thu 22 May 14

steady_bloke says...

Seen the state of the roads lately? Lets get that done first eh, then we'll see if there's enough to keep the horse folk schtuum.
Seen the state of the roads lately? Lets get that done first eh, then we'll see if there's enough to keep the horse folk schtuum. steady_bloke
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