200 fined for term-time holidays with children

Echo: 200 fined for term-time holidays with children 200 fined for term-time holidays with children

MORE than 200 south Essex parents have been fined for taking their children out of school during term time.

In total, 137 fines have been issued in Basildon since Essex County Council introduced tougher guidelines in September – the highest figure in the county. Castle Point had 56 and Rochford had 23.

Schools have been told they can only grant leave in exceptional circumstances when prior permission has been sought.

Across Essex, the council has collected £28,150 in fines, including £6,060 from Basildon parents.

Many mums and dads claim taking their children out of school during term time is the only chance they have of affording a family holiday.

Parent Fae Gregory, from Langdon Hills, said she saved her family £690 on flights by booking to depart three days before the start of the summer holidays.

She said: “If you look at any holiday brochure for the six-week summer break, the prices are doubled.

“People have no choice now. If they want a holiday and can save by going a few days earlier or later then people are going to do it, it’s human nature.

“Holidays are important for children.

They learn life skills and get a taste of the real world.”

Mum Lisa Chegwidden, from Basildon, is planning to take her two children out of school in November to take them on holiday.

She said: “They are infant age, so they only do 30 minutes of actual learning a day.

“I see a holiday as a life experience for my children and I’m quite willing to pay the fine as its cheaper than going away in the school holidays.

“I think it’s really up to the parents to choose as it’s their children not anyone else’s.”

In 2012/13, before tougher guidelines were brought in, the council collected £26,650 in fines.

An Essex County Council spokesman said: “Parents have a legal duty to ensure regular school attendance for their children who are registered at a school.

“The council is committed to ensuring children receive a suitable education and issues penalty notices and uses legal processes where appropriate to achieve this aim.

“Where there is concern for a child’s attendance, schools will work with the family to address the cause of the absence.”

“If this is not successful and the absences are not authorised by the school, the matter may be referred to the council’s education welfare service which will arrange a meeting between the school and family.”

If the situation does not improve, the Education Welfare Service will consider issuing a penalty notice, prosecution or a supervision order.

Prosecution will be sought if a penalty notice is not paid within 28 days.

The spokesman said: “The increase in penalty notices issued reflects the firm stance this authority takes on parents’ responsibility to ensure regular school attendance.”

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12:06pm Thu 19 Jun 14

John Right says...

Will they ever learn ? good show, and they have the cheek to call themselves parents ! hold your head in shame...
Will they ever learn ? good show, and they have the cheek to call themselves parents ! hold your head in shame... John Right
  • Score: -66

12:26pm Thu 19 Jun 14

pembury53 says...

John Right wrote:
Will they ever learn ? good show, and they have the cheek to call themselves parents ! hold your head in shame...
quite right, a disgraceful dereliction of their duty as parents, however these fines are small beer compared to what can be saved, opting for these illegal dates...... lets see a ratcheting up of the fines, preferably with prosecutions to deter the most stubbornof these bad parents.....
[quote][p][bold]John Right[/bold] wrote: Will they ever learn ? good show, and they have the cheek to call themselves parents ! hold your head in shame...[/p][/quote]quite right, a disgraceful dereliction of their duty as parents, however these fines are small beer compared to what can be saved, opting for these illegal dates...... lets see a ratcheting up of the fines, preferably with prosecutions to deter the most stubbornof these bad parents..... pembury53
  • Score: -44

12:37pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Voiceofreason74 says...

John right. – not sure if you are a parent or not but I want to take my two children out the last day of the year so we can go see their grandparents that they have only seen 5 in the 12 year. We will be touring Italy for two weeks. Are you REALLY trying to tell me that they will benefit more from sitting watching cartoon movies then learn about a different culture? They have not missed a single day of school all year. It does more harm to their leaning having teacher training day during the term time than it does missing the last day of school. Why can’t teacher training day happen during half term? Both my application have been rejected.
John right. – not sure if you are a parent or not but I want to take my two children out the last day of the year so we can go see their grandparents that they have only seen 5 in the 12 year. We will be touring Italy for two weeks. Are you REALLY trying to tell me that they will benefit more from sitting watching cartoon movies then learn about a different culture? They have not missed a single day of school all year. It does more harm to their leaning having teacher training day during the term time than it does missing the last day of school. Why can’t teacher training day happen during half term? Both my application have been rejected. Voiceofreason74
  • Score: 60

12:41pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Howard Cháse says...

Voiceofreason74 wrote:
John right. – not sure if you are a parent or not but I want to take my two children out the last day of the year so we can go see their grandparents that they have only seen 5 in the 12 year. We will be touring Italy for two weeks. Are you REALLY trying to tell me that they will benefit more from sitting watching cartoon movies then learn about a different culture? They have not missed a single day of school all year. It does more harm to their leaning having teacher training day during the term time than it does missing the last day of school. Why can’t teacher training day happen during half term? Both my application have been rejected.
Have they fined any teachers for going on strike making kids miss days of school?
[quote][p][bold]Voiceofreason74[/bold] wrote: John right. – not sure if you are a parent or not but I want to take my two children out the last day of the year so we can go see their grandparents that they have only seen 5 in the 12 year. We will be touring Italy for two weeks. Are you REALLY trying to tell me that they will benefit more from sitting watching cartoon movies then learn about a different culture? They have not missed a single day of school all year. It does more harm to their leaning having teacher training day during the term time than it does missing the last day of school. Why can’t teacher training day happen during half term? Both my application have been rejected.[/p][/quote]Have they fined any teachers for going on strike making kids miss days of school? Howard Cháse
  • Score: 58

12:46pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Robin Reliant says...

Voiceofreason74 wrote:
John right. – not sure if you are a parent or not but I want to take my two children out the last day of the year so we can go see their grandparents that they have only seen 5 in the 12 year. We will be touring Italy for two weeks. Are you REALLY trying to tell me that they will benefit more from sitting watching cartoon movies then learn about a different culture? They have not missed a single day of school all year. It does more harm to their leaning having teacher training day during the term time than it does missing the last day of school. Why can’t teacher training day happen during half term? Both my application have been rejected.
I feel maybe those that are getting fined have a poor attendance record anyway, so i really feel you will be ok in taking yours out on the last day and you won't hear anymore about it, and you are very correct they will take in far more travelling,but attendance is very important at the same time which as you have a 100% attendance you already know that, next time might be worth calling them in sick, just a thought.
[quote][p][bold]Voiceofreason74[/bold] wrote: John right. – not sure if you are a parent or not but I want to take my two children out the last day of the year so we can go see their grandparents that they have only seen 5 in the 12 year. We will be touring Italy for two weeks. Are you REALLY trying to tell me that they will benefit more from sitting watching cartoon movies then learn about a different culture? They have not missed a single day of school all year. It does more harm to their leaning having teacher training day during the term time than it does missing the last day of school. Why can’t teacher training day happen during half term? Both my application have been rejected.[/p][/quote]I feel maybe those that are getting fined have a poor attendance record anyway, so i really feel you will be ok in taking yours out on the last day and you won't hear anymore about it, and you are very correct they will take in far more travelling,but attendance is very important at the same time which as you have a 100% attendance you already know that, next time might be worth calling them in sick, just a thought. Robin Reliant
  • Score: 4

12:48pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Robin Reliant says...

pembury53 wrote:
John Right wrote:
Will they ever learn ? good show, and they have the cheek to call themselves parents ! hold your head in shame...
quite right, a disgraceful dereliction of their duty as parents, however these fines are small beer compared to what can be saved, opting for these illegal dates...... lets see a ratcheting up of the fines, preferably with prosecutions to deter the most stubbornof these bad parents.....
Agreed some are bad parents who's kids might well have a poor attendance anyway, but trust me theres so many good parents that need to take the kids out for a few days.
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John Right[/bold] wrote: Will they ever learn ? good show, and they have the cheek to call themselves parents ! hold your head in shame...[/p][/quote]quite right, a disgraceful dereliction of their duty as parents, however these fines are small beer compared to what can be saved, opting for these illegal dates...... lets see a ratcheting up of the fines, preferably with prosecutions to deter the most stubbornof these bad parents.....[/p][/quote]Agreed some are bad parents who's kids might well have a poor attendance anyway, but trust me theres so many good parents that need to take the kids out for a few days. Robin Reliant
  • Score: 19

12:57pm Thu 19 Jun 14

pembury53 says...

Robin Reliant wrote:
pembury53 wrote:
John Right wrote: Will they ever learn ? good show, and they have the cheek to call themselves parents ! hold your head in shame...
quite right, a disgraceful dereliction of their duty as parents, however these fines are small beer compared to what can be saved, opting for these illegal dates...... lets see a ratcheting up of the fines, preferably with prosecutions to deter the most stubbornof these bad parents.....
Agreed some are bad parents who's kids might well have a poor attendance anyway, but trust me theres so many good parents that need to take the kids out for a few days.
i don't doubt it, but this article is about those that want to take their kids out, not those that need to, in exceptional circumstances, as provided for in the rules......
[quote][p][bold]Robin Reliant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John Right[/bold] wrote: Will they ever learn ? good show, and they have the cheek to call themselves parents ! hold your head in shame...[/p][/quote]quite right, a disgraceful dereliction of their duty as parents, however these fines are small beer compared to what can be saved, opting for these illegal dates...... lets see a ratcheting up of the fines, preferably with prosecutions to deter the most stubbornof these bad parents.....[/p][/quote]Agreed some are bad parents who's kids might well have a poor attendance anyway, but trust me theres so many good parents that need to take the kids out for a few days.[/p][/quote]i don't doubt it, but this article is about those that want to take their kids out, not those that need to, in exceptional circumstances, as provided for in the rules...... pembury53
  • Score: -14

1:04pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Nebs says...

Scrap half term holidays, and let parents take their children out for one week of their choice each term.
Scrap half term holidays, and let parents take their children out for one week of their choice each term. Nebs
  • Score: 16

1:04pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Motherlode says...

"The council is committed to ensuring children receive a suitable education and issues penalty notices and uses legal processes where appropriate to achieve this aim"
Good. I look forward to them prosecuting poor teaching, wasted lessons & unmarked homework with the same vigour as parents.
Personally, I'd allow children time off school for family holidays at any time, providing the parents agreed that will catch up on any work missed. It would stop the travel companies fleecing everyone who traveled outside of term time.
"The council is committed to ensuring children receive a suitable education and issues penalty notices and uses legal processes where appropriate to achieve this aim" Good. I look forward to them prosecuting poor teaching, wasted lessons & unmarked homework with the same vigour as parents. Personally, I'd allow children time off school for family holidays at any time, providing the parents agreed that will catch up on any work missed. It would stop the travel companies fleecing everyone who traveled outside of term time. Motherlode
  • Score: 28

1:24pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Jack222 says...

Schools quite happily cope with children who are sick. Schools wate time - no work is done in the last week of the year, nor the week before Christmas. As well, the day or two after Sats are generally ';reward time - so not all school days are equal.

As well, there are holidays and holidays - a trip to say Australia visiting relatives rarely seen with visits to the cities and art galleries is more important than school as they will learn a lot from the experience...

It's the normal government attempt to look at the one per cent abusing a system and make the other 99% pay for it. If 'bad' parents want to take their child on holiday then fining them will not alter the 'bad' behaviour. It will just alienate the parent and child from the educational system more...
Schools quite happily cope with children who are sick. Schools wate time - no work is done in the last week of the year, nor the week before Christmas. As well, the day or two after Sats are generally ';reward time - so not all school days are equal. As well, there are holidays and holidays - a trip to say Australia visiting relatives rarely seen with visits to the cities and art galleries is more important than school as they will learn a lot from the experience... It's the normal government attempt to look at the one per cent abusing a system and make the other 99% pay for it. If 'bad' parents want to take their child on holiday then fining them will not alter the 'bad' behaviour. It will just alienate the parent and child from the educational system more... Jack222
  • Score: 17

1:27pm Thu 19 Jun 14

John Right says...

Voiceofreason74 wrote:
John right. – not sure if you are a parent or not but I want to take my two children out the last day of the year so we can go see their grandparents that they have only seen 5 in the 12 year. We will be touring Italy for two weeks. Are you REALLY trying to tell me that they will benefit more from sitting watching cartoon movies then learn about a different culture? They have not missed a single day of school all year. It does more harm to their leaning having teacher training day during the term time than it does missing the last day of school. Why can’t teacher training day happen during half term? Both my application have been rejected.
Voice of Reason, an excuse for Treason, it's people like you need prison, not a fine, as your total disregard to childrens allows you to dredge up ridiculous reasoning to cover your derilictions
[quote][p][bold]Voiceofreason74[/bold] wrote: John right. – not sure if you are a parent or not but I want to take my two children out the last day of the year so we can go see their grandparents that they have only seen 5 in the 12 year. We will be touring Italy for two weeks. Are you REALLY trying to tell me that they will benefit more from sitting watching cartoon movies then learn about a different culture? They have not missed a single day of school all year. It does more harm to their leaning having teacher training day during the term time than it does missing the last day of school. Why can’t teacher training day happen during half term? Both my application have been rejected.[/p][/quote]Voice of Reason, an excuse for Treason, it's people like you need prison, not a fine, as your total disregard to childrens allows you to dredge up ridiculous reasoning to cover your derilictions John Right
  • Score: -26

1:27pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Jack222 says...

And the upper middle class will just say the child was 'sick' and it will be ignored as it would be far to tricky for a school to disprove it.

Hint? Take the last week off the school year - it wont be followed up the following year as schools have far more important matters to deal with.
And the upper middle class will just say the child was 'sick' and it will be ignored as it would be far to tricky for a school to disprove it. Hint? Take the last week off the school year - it wont be followed up the following year as schools have far more important matters to deal with. Jack222
  • Score: 7

1:33pm Thu 19 Jun 14

shoess3 says...

Craziness, rules are rules but sometimes the rules are blatantly wrong! There should be restrictions, but this isn't just about affordability; children can learn far more in a week going abroad than they can from a week in school (assuming it's not before exams or important mocks/11+ etc.).

Of course there's the experience of different cultures if you go abroad (no need for snobbery on where parents take their children BTW!), but of most importance, family time and family values learnt by children is invaluable.

In my opinion, parents that take their children away for a week a year, whether it be Canvey or China, are the ones that are doing a decent job. It's better than throwing their money down the drains on booze and fags and shows people still value time together as a family. Sometimes parents really can't afford to pay holiday-time prices.

Give every child one week allowance for their parents to take them on holiday. It needs to be mutually agreed by all parties, and could be taken off the excessive 6-week summer break. If you can afford to go in school holidays, continue doing so, but don't moan at the people who can't afford it.
Craziness, rules are rules but sometimes the rules are blatantly wrong! There should be restrictions, but this isn't just about affordability; children can learn far more in a week going abroad than they can from a week in school (assuming it's not before exams or important mocks/11+ etc.). Of course there's the experience of different cultures if you go abroad (no need for snobbery on where parents take their children BTW!), but of most importance, family time and family values learnt by children is invaluable. In my opinion, parents that take their children away for a week a year, whether it be Canvey or China, are the ones that are doing a decent job. It's better than throwing their money down the drains on booze and fags and shows people still value time together as a family. Sometimes parents really can't afford to pay holiday-time prices. Give every child one week allowance for their parents to take them on holiday. It needs to be mutually agreed by all parties, and could be taken off the excessive 6-week summer break. If you can afford to go in school holidays, continue doing so, but don't moan at the people who can't afford it. shoess3
  • Score: 22

1:34pm Thu 19 Jun 14

emcee says...

Voiceofreason74 wrote:
John right. – not sure if you are a parent or not but I want to take my two children out the last day of the year so we can go see their grandparents that they have only seen 5 in the 12 year. We will be touring Italy for two weeks. Are you REALLY trying to tell me that they will benefit more from sitting watching cartoon movies then learn about a different culture? They have not missed a single day of school all year. It does more harm to their leaning having teacher training day during the term time than it does missing the last day of school. Why can’t teacher training day happen during half term? Both my application have been rejected.
For one day I would have called them in sick. Let the school prove otherwise.
[quote][p][bold]Voiceofreason74[/bold] wrote: John right. – not sure if you are a parent or not but I want to take my two children out the last day of the year so we can go see their grandparents that they have only seen 5 in the 12 year. We will be touring Italy for two weeks. Are you REALLY trying to tell me that they will benefit more from sitting watching cartoon movies then learn about a different culture? They have not missed a single day of school all year. It does more harm to their leaning having teacher training day during the term time than it does missing the last day of school. Why can’t teacher training day happen during half term? Both my application have been rejected.[/p][/quote]For one day I would have called them in sick. Let the school prove otherwise. emcee
  • Score: 13

1:35pm Thu 19 Jun 14

John Right says...

Jack222 wrote:
And the upper middle class will just say the child was 'sick' and it will be ignored as it would be far to tricky for a school to disprove it.

Hint? Take the last week off the school year - it wont be followed up the following year as schools have far more important matters to deal with.
The main reason errant parents take them out of school during term time, is to enjoy cheaper holidays abroad, time to prohibit children leaving the country during term times
[quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: And the upper middle class will just say the child was 'sick' and it will be ignored as it would be far to tricky for a school to disprove it. Hint? Take the last week off the school year - it wont be followed up the following year as schools have far more important matters to deal with.[/p][/quote]The main reason errant parents take them out of school during term time, is to enjoy cheaper holidays abroad, time to prohibit children leaving the country during term times John Right
  • Score: -29

1:38pm Thu 19 Jun 14

shoess3 says...

John Right wrote:
Voiceofreason74 wrote:
John right. – not sure if you are a parent or not but I want to take my two children out the last day of the year so we can go see their grandparents that they have only seen 5 in the 12 year. We will be touring Italy for two weeks. Are you REALLY trying to tell me that they will benefit more from sitting watching cartoon movies then learn about a different culture? They have not missed a single day of school all year. It does more harm to their leaning having teacher training day during the term time than it does missing the last day of school. Why can’t teacher training day happen during half term? Both my application have been rejected.
Voice of Reason, an excuse for Treason, it's people like you need prison, not a fine, as your total disregard to childrens allows you to dredge up ridiculous reasoning to cover your derilictions
Your total disregard for the English language suggests you were taken out of school as a child far too frequently!
[quote][p][bold]John Right[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Voiceofreason74[/bold] wrote: John right. – not sure if you are a parent or not but I want to take my two children out the last day of the year so we can go see their grandparents that they have only seen 5 in the 12 year. We will be touring Italy for two weeks. Are you REALLY trying to tell me that they will benefit more from sitting watching cartoon movies then learn about a different culture? They have not missed a single day of school all year. It does more harm to their leaning having teacher training day during the term time than it does missing the last day of school. Why can’t teacher training day happen during half term? Both my application have been rejected.[/p][/quote]Voice of Reason, an excuse for Treason, it's people like you need prison, not a fine, as your total disregard to childrens allows you to dredge up ridiculous reasoning to cover your derilictions[/p][/quote]Your total disregard for the English language suggests you were taken out of school as a child far too frequently! shoess3
  • Score: 19

2:13pm Thu 19 Jun 14

pembury53 says...

shoess3 wrote:
Craziness, rules are rules but sometimes the rules are blatantly wrong! There should be restrictions, but this isn't just about affordability; children can learn far more in a week going abroad than they can from a week in school (assuming it's not before exams or important mocks/11+ etc.). Of course there's the experience of different cultures if you go abroad (no need for snobbery on where parents take their children BTW!), but of most importance, family time and family values learnt by children is invaluable. In my opinion, parents that take their children away for a week a year, whether it be Canvey or China, are the ones that are doing a decent job. It's better than throwing their money down the drains on booze and fags and shows people still value time together as a family. Sometimes parents really can't afford to pay holiday-time prices. Give every child one week allowance for their parents to take them on holiday. It needs to be mutually agreed by all parties, and could be taken off the excessive 6-week summer break. If you can afford to go in school holidays, continue doing so, but don't moan at the people who can't afford it.
a feeble and cynical excuse for this blatant criminality, to pretend such excursions are to the benefit of the truant child........ sitting on the beach, in some tacky 'all inclusive' smothered in factor 30, while the errant 'parents' wash down the 'full english' from paddy o'malleys, with the included cheap lager, pondering the evenings entertainment and another helping of paella............ meanwhile their law abiding contempories, are heads down for maths and humanities, leaving these feckless kids behind, while mum and dad count the pennies.....
[quote][p][bold]shoess3[/bold] wrote: Craziness, rules are rules but sometimes the rules are blatantly wrong! There should be restrictions, but this isn't just about affordability; children can learn far more in a week going abroad than they can from a week in school (assuming it's not before exams or important mocks/11+ etc.). Of course there's the experience of different cultures if you go abroad (no need for snobbery on where parents take their children BTW!), but of most importance, family time and family values learnt by children is invaluable. In my opinion, parents that take their children away for a week a year, whether it be Canvey or China, are the ones that are doing a decent job. It's better than throwing their money down the drains on booze and fags and shows people still value time together as a family. Sometimes parents really can't afford to pay holiday-time prices. Give every child one week allowance for their parents to take them on holiday. It needs to be mutually agreed by all parties, and could be taken off the excessive 6-week summer break. If you can afford to go in school holidays, continue doing so, but don't moan at the people who can't afford it.[/p][/quote]a feeble and cynical excuse for this blatant criminality, to pretend such excursions are to the benefit of the truant child........ sitting on the beach, in some tacky 'all inclusive' smothered in factor 30, while the errant 'parents' wash down the 'full english' from paddy o'malleys, with the included cheap lager, pondering the evenings entertainment and another helping of paella............ meanwhile their law abiding contempories, are heads down for maths and humanities, leaving these feckless kids behind, while mum and dad count the pennies..... pembury53
  • Score: -24

3:07pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Robin Reliant says...

pembury53 wrote:
Robin Reliant wrote:
pembury53 wrote:
John Right wrote: Will they ever learn ? good show, and they have the cheek to call themselves parents ! hold your head in shame...
quite right, a disgraceful dereliction of their duty as parents, however these fines are small beer compared to what can be saved, opting for these illegal dates...... lets see a ratcheting up of the fines, preferably with prosecutions to deter the most stubbornof these bad parents.....
Agreed some are bad parents who's kids might well have a poor attendance anyway, but trust me theres so many good parents that need to take the kids out for a few days.
i don't doubt it, but this article is about those that want to take their kids out, not those that need to, in exceptional circumstances, as provided for in the rules......
Need/want, i bundled it in together, holidays are important, it is down to attendance throughout the term.
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin Reliant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John Right[/bold] wrote: Will they ever learn ? good show, and they have the cheek to call themselves parents ! hold your head in shame...[/p][/quote]quite right, a disgraceful dereliction of their duty as parents, however these fines are small beer compared to what can be saved, opting for these illegal dates...... lets see a ratcheting up of the fines, preferably with prosecutions to deter the most stubbornof these bad parents.....[/p][/quote]Agreed some are bad parents who's kids might well have a poor attendance anyway, but trust me theres so many good parents that need to take the kids out for a few days.[/p][/quote]i don't doubt it, but this article is about those that want to take their kids out, not those that need to, in exceptional circumstances, as provided for in the rules......[/p][/quote]Need/want, i bundled it in together, holidays are important, it is down to attendance throughout the term. Robin Reliant
  • Score: 2

4:10pm Thu 19 Jun 14

shoess3 says...

pembury53 wrote:
shoess3 wrote:
Craziness, rules are rules but sometimes the rules are blatantly wrong! There should be restrictions, but this isn't just about affordability; children can learn far more in a week going abroad than they can from a week in school (assuming it's not before exams or important mocks/11+ etc.). Of course there's the experience of different cultures if you go abroad (no need for snobbery on where parents take their children BTW!), but of most importance, family time and family values learnt by children is invaluable. In my opinion, parents that take their children away for a week a year, whether it be Canvey or China, are the ones that are doing a decent job. It's better than throwing their money down the drains on booze and fags and shows people still value time together as a family. Sometimes parents really can't afford to pay holiday-time prices. Give every child one week allowance for their parents to take them on holiday. It needs to be mutually agreed by all parties, and could be taken off the excessive 6-week summer break. If you can afford to go in school holidays, continue doing so, but don't moan at the people who can't afford it.
a feeble and cynical excuse for this blatant criminality, to pretend such excursions are to the benefit of the truant child........ sitting on the beach, in some tacky 'all inclusive' smothered in factor 30, while the errant 'parents' wash down the 'full english' from paddy o'malleys, with the included cheap lager, pondering the evenings entertainment and another helping of paella............ meanwhile their law abiding contempories, are heads down for maths and humanities, leaving these feckless kids behind, while mum and dad count the pennies.....
I knew someone would jump on the 'typical Brit holiday abroad' stereotype. What kind of holiday would you take your children on? Maybe a trip to Marbs or a Caribbean cruise? Oh wait, I don't really care. Be snobby about holidays or don't; I know if I was a child again who I'd rather have for a parent.

If children suffer from missing one week of education a year in favour of a fun trip with their families, then quite frankly the kids have more worries than their parents being fined. In fact, the same parent mentality pushes their child, although obviously intellectually deficient, paying for extra tuition to force them into a school they wouldn't naturally be able to attend. Money doesn't buy everything, but it can buy a child a break to have some fun.

You'll also note that I was not providing a 'feeble excuse', merely a suggestion of how to fix this very broken system introduced relatively recently. This is a policy that is villifying good (i.e. ones that want to spend time with their children) parents, whilst their peers sit in lessons watching the latest Disney movie a couple of days before 6 weeks of mundane boredom.
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shoess3[/bold] wrote: Craziness, rules are rules but sometimes the rules are blatantly wrong! There should be restrictions, but this isn't just about affordability; children can learn far more in a week going abroad than they can from a week in school (assuming it's not before exams or important mocks/11+ etc.). Of course there's the experience of different cultures if you go abroad (no need for snobbery on where parents take their children BTW!), but of most importance, family time and family values learnt by children is invaluable. In my opinion, parents that take their children away for a week a year, whether it be Canvey or China, are the ones that are doing a decent job. It's better than throwing their money down the drains on booze and fags and shows people still value time together as a family. Sometimes parents really can't afford to pay holiday-time prices. Give every child one week allowance for their parents to take them on holiday. It needs to be mutually agreed by all parties, and could be taken off the excessive 6-week summer break. If you can afford to go in school holidays, continue doing so, but don't moan at the people who can't afford it.[/p][/quote]a feeble and cynical excuse for this blatant criminality, to pretend such excursions are to the benefit of the truant child........ sitting on the beach, in some tacky 'all inclusive' smothered in factor 30, while the errant 'parents' wash down the 'full english' from paddy o'malleys, with the included cheap lager, pondering the evenings entertainment and another helping of paella............ meanwhile their law abiding contempories, are heads down for maths and humanities, leaving these feckless kids behind, while mum and dad count the pennies.....[/p][/quote]I knew someone would jump on the 'typical Brit holiday abroad' stereotype. What kind of holiday would you take your children on? Maybe a trip to Marbs or a Caribbean cruise? Oh wait, I don't really care. Be snobby about holidays or don't; I know if I was a child again who I'd rather have for a parent. If children suffer from missing one week of education a year in favour of a fun trip with their families, then quite frankly the kids have more worries than their parents being fined. In fact, the same parent mentality pushes their child, although obviously intellectually deficient, paying for extra tuition to force them into a school they wouldn't naturally be able to attend. Money doesn't buy everything, but it can buy a child a break to have some fun. You'll also note that I was not providing a 'feeble excuse', merely a suggestion of how to fix this very broken system introduced relatively recently. This is a policy that is villifying good (i.e. ones that want to spend time with their children) parents, whilst their peers sit in lessons watching the latest Disney movie a couple of days before 6 weeks of mundane boredom. shoess3
  • Score: 4

4:51pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

THE NEXT BATCH OF FINES ARE ON THEIR WAY, END OF.
THE NEXT BATCH OF FINES ARE ON THEIR WAY, END OF. Nowthatsworthknowing
  • Score: -16

6:27pm Thu 19 Jun 14

whateverhappened says...

shoess3 wrote:
pembury53 wrote:
shoess3 wrote: Craziness, rules are rules but sometimes the rules are blatantly wrong! There should be restrictions, but this isn't just about affordability; children can learn far more in a week going abroad than they can from a week in school (assuming it's not before exams or important mocks/11+ etc.). Of course there's the experience of different cultures if you go abroad (no need for snobbery on where parents take their children BTW!), but of most importance, family time and family values learnt by children is invaluable. In my opinion, parents that take their children away for a week a year, whether it be Canvey or China, are the ones that are doing a decent job. It's better than throwing their money down the drains on booze and fags and shows people still value time together as a family. Sometimes parents really can't afford to pay holiday-time prices. Give every child one week allowance for their parents to take them on holiday. It needs to be mutually agreed by all parties, and could be taken off the excessive 6-week summer break. If you can afford to go in school holidays, continue doing so, but don't moan at the people who can't afford it.
a feeble and cynical excuse for this blatant criminality, to pretend such excursions are to the benefit of the truant child........ sitting on the beach, in some tacky 'all inclusive' smothered in factor 30, while the errant 'parents' wash down the 'full english' from paddy o'malleys, with the included cheap lager, pondering the evenings entertainment and another helping of paella............ meanwhile their law abiding contempories, are heads down for maths and humanities, leaving these feckless kids behind, while mum and dad count the pennies.....
I knew someone would jump on the 'typical Brit holiday abroad' stereotype. What kind of holiday would you take your children on? Maybe a trip to Marbs or a Caribbean cruise? Oh wait, I don't really care. Be snobby about holidays or don't; I know if I was a child again who I'd rather have for a parent. If children suffer from missing one week of education a year in favour of a fun trip with their families, then quite frankly the kids have more worries than their parents being fined. In fact, the same parent mentality pushes their child, although obviously intellectually deficient, paying for extra tuition to force them into a school they wouldn't naturally be able to attend. Money doesn't buy everything, but it can buy a child a break to have some fun. You'll also note that I was not providing a 'feeble excuse', merely a suggestion of how to fix this very broken system introduced relatively recently. This is a policy that is villifying good (i.e. ones that want to spend time with their children) parents, whilst their peers sit in lessons watching the latest Disney movie a couple of days before 6 weeks of mundane boredom.
What kind of holiday would you take your children on? Maybe a trip to Marbs or a Caribbean cruise.
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ha,, that would imply someone would breed with the feeble cretin..!
[quote][p][bold]shoess3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shoess3[/bold] wrote: Craziness, rules are rules but sometimes the rules are blatantly wrong! There should be restrictions, but this isn't just about affordability; children can learn far more in a week going abroad than they can from a week in school (assuming it's not before exams or important mocks/11+ etc.). Of course there's the experience of different cultures if you go abroad (no need for snobbery on where parents take their children BTW!), but of most importance, family time and family values learnt by children is invaluable. In my opinion, parents that take their children away for a week a year, whether it be Canvey or China, are the ones that are doing a decent job. It's better than throwing their money down the drains on booze and fags and shows people still value time together as a family. Sometimes parents really can't afford to pay holiday-time prices. Give every child one week allowance for their parents to take them on holiday. It needs to be mutually agreed by all parties, and could be taken off the excessive 6-week summer break. If you can afford to go in school holidays, continue doing so, but don't moan at the people who can't afford it.[/p][/quote]a feeble and cynical excuse for this blatant criminality, to pretend such excursions are to the benefit of the truant child........ sitting on the beach, in some tacky 'all inclusive' smothered in factor 30, while the errant 'parents' wash down the 'full english' from paddy o'malleys, with the included cheap lager, pondering the evenings entertainment and another helping of paella............ meanwhile their law abiding contempories, are heads down for maths and humanities, leaving these feckless kids behind, while mum and dad count the pennies.....[/p][/quote]I knew someone would jump on the 'typical Brit holiday abroad' stereotype. What kind of holiday would you take your children on? Maybe a trip to Marbs or a Caribbean cruise? Oh wait, I don't really care. Be snobby about holidays or don't; I know if I was a child again who I'd rather have for a parent. If children suffer from missing one week of education a year in favour of a fun trip with their families, then quite frankly the kids have more worries than their parents being fined. In fact, the same parent mentality pushes their child, although obviously intellectually deficient, paying for extra tuition to force them into a school they wouldn't naturally be able to attend. Money doesn't buy everything, but it can buy a child a break to have some fun. You'll also note that I was not providing a 'feeble excuse', merely a suggestion of how to fix this very broken system introduced relatively recently. This is a policy that is villifying good (i.e. ones that want to spend time with their children) parents, whilst their peers sit in lessons watching the latest Disney movie a couple of days before 6 weeks of mundane boredom.[/p][/quote]What kind of holiday would you take your children on? Maybe a trip to Marbs or a Caribbean cruise. . .. ha,, that would imply someone would breed with the feeble cretin..! whateverhappened
  • Score: -5

6:40pm Thu 19 Jun 14

the25man says...

Alter all the holidays that schools have. Shorten the summer holiday to three weeks but two of them. Get schools to have there breaks at different times from other schools this will stop the tour people putting up prices, then parents taking kids out of school should then be fined
Alter all the holidays that schools have. Shorten the summer holiday to three weeks but two of them. Get schools to have there breaks at different times from other schools this will stop the tour people putting up prices, then parents taking kids out of school should then be fined the25man
  • Score: -10

6:42pm Thu 19 Jun 14

LexyGirl says...

Six weeks holiday in summer is just far too long, it's a nightmare for working parents as well as those who don't work as you still have to keep the children occupied. I think four weeks would be sufficient, and would like to see holiday companies unable to double their prices during this season as it is unfair, and that is the only reason why parents take their children out of school time.
Six weeks holiday in summer is just far too long, it's a nightmare for working parents as well as those who don't work as you still have to keep the children occupied. I think four weeks would be sufficient, and would like to see holiday companies unable to double their prices during this season as it is unfair, and that is the only reason why parents take their children out of school time. LexyGirl
  • Score: 8

7:46pm Thu 19 Jun 14

sesibollox says...

LexyGirl wrote:
Six weeks holiday in summer is just far too long, it's a nightmare for working parents as well as those who don't work as you still have to keep the children occupied. I think four weeks would be sufficient, and would like to see holiday companies unable to double their prices during this season as it is unfair, and that is the only reason why parents take their children out of school time.
Sorry but I must disagree it is the reward for all the hard work we do
[quote][p][bold]LexyGirl[/bold] wrote: Six weeks holiday in summer is just far too long, it's a nightmare for working parents as well as those who don't work as you still have to keep the children occupied. I think four weeks would be sufficient, and would like to see holiday companies unable to double their prices during this season as it is unfair, and that is the only reason why parents take their children out of school time.[/p][/quote]Sorry but I must disagree it is the reward for all the hard work we do sesibollox
  • Score: -8

8:05pm Thu 19 Jun 14

sesibollox says...

sesibollox wrote:
LexyGirl wrote:
Six weeks holiday in summer is just far too long, it's a nightmare for working parents as well as those who don't work as you still have to keep the children occupied. I think four weeks would be sufficient, and would like to see holiday companies unable to double their prices during this season as it is unfair, and that is the only reason why parents take their children out of school time.
Sorry but I must disagree it is the reward for all the hard work we do
Schools in England and Wales face disruption next month, as the National Union of Teachers says it will take strike action on 10 July, along with other public sector unions.
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LexyGirl[/bold] wrote: Six weeks holiday in summer is just far too long, it's a nightmare for working parents as well as those who don't work as you still have to keep the children occupied. I think four weeks would be sufficient, and would like to see holiday companies unable to double their prices during this season as it is unfair, and that is the only reason why parents take their children out of school time.[/p][/quote]Sorry but I must disagree it is the reward for all the hard work we do[/p][/quote]Schools in England and Wales face disruption next month, as the National Union of Teachers says it will take strike action on 10 July, along with other public sector unions. sesibollox
  • Score: 3

10:15pm Thu 19 Jun 14

carlosfandango30 says...

As a working parent I work harder and save harder to afford to pay the increase in prices. It's simple economics!!
As a working parent I work harder and save harder to afford to pay the increase in prices. It's simple economics!! carlosfandango30
  • Score: -9

11:44pm Thu 19 Jun 14

sarahcl says...

John Right wrote:
Will they ever learn ? good show, and they have the cheek to call themselves parents ! hold your head in shame...
I think you should hold your head in shame. What research have you done on the subject? Tell me the % of sessions missed due to term-time holidays? . What is the % of pupils classified as persistent truants and what is the prevalence of holiday absence within that cohort? What is the evidence that, specifically, term-time holidays, impacts overall attainment ? The DfE do not possess such evidence- so if you have it - please enlighten us !!

What makes you think that your definition of an "errant /bad parent" is correct and should be the definition applied to us all ?

What makes you think that fines or prison as you suggest are solutions and what evidence do you have to back that up?

On spelling and grammar, I see that your own 100% attendance record was not beneficial :-

"Voice of Reason, an excuse for Treason, it's people like you need prison, not a fine, as your total disregard to childrens allows you to dredge up ridiculous reasoning to cover your derilictions"

I would have checked that post, before preaching on other people's spelling etc., based on their school attendance.

We are all entitled to opinions, but the words "bad/errant" parent "prison and fines" are ridiculous when it comes to this topic - if you do your research, of course
[quote][p][bold]John Right[/bold] wrote: Will they ever learn ? good show, and they have the cheek to call themselves parents ! hold your head in shame...[/p][/quote]I think you should hold your head in shame. What research have you done on the subject? Tell me the % of sessions missed due to term-time holidays? . What is the % of pupils classified as persistent truants and what is the prevalence of holiday absence within that cohort? What is the evidence that, specifically, term-time holidays, impacts overall attainment ? The DfE do not possess such evidence- so if you have it - please enlighten us !! What makes you think that your definition of an "errant /bad parent" is correct and should be the definition applied to us all ? What makes you think that fines or prison as you suggest are solutions and what evidence do you have to back that up? On spelling and grammar, I see that your own 100% attendance record was not beneficial :- "Voice of Reason, an excuse for Treason, it's people like you need prison, not a fine, as your total disregard to childrens allows you to dredge up ridiculous reasoning to cover your derilictions" I would have checked that post, before preaching on other people's spelling etc., based on their school attendance. We are all entitled to opinions, but the words "bad/errant" parent "prison and fines" are ridiculous when it comes to this topic - if you do your research, of course sarahcl
  • Score: 12

8:25am Fri 20 Jun 14

pembury53 says...

sarahcl wrote:
John Right wrote: Will they ever learn ? good show, and they have the cheek to call themselves parents ! hold your head in shame...
I think you should hold your head in shame. What research have you done on the subject? Tell me the % of sessions missed due to term-time holidays? . What is the % of pupils classified as persistent truants and what is the prevalence of holiday absence within that cohort? What is the evidence that, specifically, term-time holidays, impacts overall attainment ? The DfE do not possess such evidence- so if you have it - please enlighten us !! What makes you think that your definition of an "errant /bad parent" is correct and should be the definition applied to us all ? What makes you think that fines or prison as you suggest are solutions and what evidence do you have to back that up? On spelling and grammar, I see that your own 100% attendance record was not beneficial :- "Voice of Reason, an excuse for Treason, it's people like you need prison, not a fine, as your total disregard to childrens allows you to dredge up ridiculous reasoning to cover your derilictions" I would have checked that post, before preaching on other people's spelling etc., based on their school attendance. We are all entitled to opinions, but the words "bad/errant" parent "prison and fines" are ridiculous when it comes to this topic - if you do your research, of course
nothing ridiculous in those comments, every parent knows the rules for schooling their brood, but opt to save a few quid at the expense of education, and the law.......... bad parents they are, bad parents they remain, as the fines notch up, and the names go on the list, of law breakers.....
[quote][p][bold]sarahcl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John Right[/bold] wrote: Will they ever learn ? good show, and they have the cheek to call themselves parents ! hold your head in shame...[/p][/quote]I think you should hold your head in shame. What research have you done on the subject? Tell me the % of sessions missed due to term-time holidays? . What is the % of pupils classified as persistent truants and what is the prevalence of holiday absence within that cohort? What is the evidence that, specifically, term-time holidays, impacts overall attainment ? The DfE do not possess such evidence- so if you have it - please enlighten us !! What makes you think that your definition of an "errant /bad parent" is correct and should be the definition applied to us all ? What makes you think that fines or prison as you suggest are solutions and what evidence do you have to back that up? On spelling and grammar, I see that your own 100% attendance record was not beneficial :- "Voice of Reason, an excuse for Treason, it's people like you need prison, not a fine, as your total disregard to childrens allows you to dredge up ridiculous reasoning to cover your derilictions" I would have checked that post, before preaching on other people's spelling etc., based on their school attendance. We are all entitled to opinions, but the words "bad/errant" parent "prison and fines" are ridiculous when it comes to this topic - if you do your research, of course[/p][/quote]nothing ridiculous in those comments, every parent knows the rules for schooling their brood, but opt to save a few quid at the expense of education, and the law.......... bad parents they are, bad parents they remain, as the fines notch up, and the names go on the list, of law breakers..... pembury53
  • Score: -16

10:46am Fri 20 Jun 14

mike.Ockhurtz says...

Robin Reliant wrote:
Voiceofreason74 wrote:
John right. – not sure if you are a parent or not but I want to take my two children out the last day of the year so we can go see their grandparents that they have only seen 5 in the 12 year. We will be touring Italy for two weeks. Are you REALLY trying to tell me that they will benefit more from sitting watching cartoon movies then learn about a different culture? They have not missed a single day of school all year. It does more harm to their leaning having teacher training day during the term time than it does missing the last day of school. Why can’t teacher training day happen during half term? Both my application have been rejected.
I feel maybe those that are getting fined have a poor attendance record anyway, so i really feel you will be ok in taking yours out on the last day and you won't hear anymore about it, and you are very correct they will take in far more travelling,but attendance is very important at the same time which as you have a 100% attendance you already know that, next time might be worth calling them in sick, just a thought.
If your child is off sick the school ask to see any prescription/s that are issued to the child by the doctor. Which is hard to do when you haven't been able to see a doctor because they are fully booked. If you are lucky you may get an after hours appointment. You could go to a walk in clinic
[quote][p][bold]Robin Reliant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Voiceofreason74[/bold] wrote: John right. – not sure if you are a parent or not but I want to take my two children out the last day of the year so we can go see their grandparents that they have only seen 5 in the 12 year. We will be touring Italy for two weeks. Are you REALLY trying to tell me that they will benefit more from sitting watching cartoon movies then learn about a different culture? They have not missed a single day of school all year. It does more harm to their leaning having teacher training day during the term time than it does missing the last day of school. Why can’t teacher training day happen during half term? Both my application have been rejected.[/p][/quote]I feel maybe those that are getting fined have a poor attendance record anyway, so i really feel you will be ok in taking yours out on the last day and you won't hear anymore about it, and you are very correct they will take in far more travelling,but attendance is very important at the same time which as you have a 100% attendance you already know that, next time might be worth calling them in sick, just a thought.[/p][/quote]If your child is off sick the school ask to see any prescription/s that are issued to the child by the doctor. Which is hard to do when you haven't been able to see a doctor because they are fully booked. If you are lucky you may get an after hours appointment. You could go to a walk in clinic mike.Ockhurtz
  • Score: -1

11:08am Fri 20 Jun 14

Minceir. says...

I don't know if the same rules apply to parents who send their offspring to fee paying schools. If not, why not? The fact that I ask the question probably suggests that I have a strong feeling there is more flexibility in the private sector.
I don't know if the same rules apply to parents who send their offspring to fee paying schools. If not, why not? The fact that I ask the question probably suggests that I have a strong feeling there is more flexibility in the private sector. Minceir.
  • Score: 3

11:12am Fri 20 Jun 14

pembury53 says...

LexyGirl wrote:
Six weeks holiday in summer is just far too long, it's a nightmare for working parents as well as those who don't work as you still have to keep the children occupied. I think four weeks would be sufficient, and would like to see holiday companies unable to double their prices during this season as it is unfair, and that is the only reason why parents take their children out of school time.
"double their prices" ...... the free market at work, supply and demand, in a consumer driven world..... for those unable to meet the asking price, the less affluent or work shy, there's the local park, cycling with mum and dad, or maybe the treat of a midweek visit to the local cinema, its not all about 2 weeks in the sun, 'live within your means' is the message here........
[quote][p][bold]LexyGirl[/bold] wrote: Six weeks holiday in summer is just far too long, it's a nightmare for working parents as well as those who don't work as you still have to keep the children occupied. I think four weeks would be sufficient, and would like to see holiday companies unable to double their prices during this season as it is unfair, and that is the only reason why parents take their children out of school time.[/p][/quote]"double their prices" ...... the free market at work, supply and demand, in a consumer driven world..... for those unable to meet the asking price, the less affluent or work shy, there's the local park, cycling with mum and dad, or maybe the treat of a midweek visit to the local cinema, its not all about 2 weeks in the sun, 'live within your means' is the message here........ pembury53
  • Score: -4

1:47pm Fri 20 Jun 14

sesibollox says...

That six week holiday period is an absolute life saver for every business in the land, prices go up, on everything
That six week holiday period is an absolute life saver for every business in the land, prices go up, on everything sesibollox
  • Score: 1

2:24pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Parold says...

Our friend is getting married in Greece during term time because it is far cheaper to do so than during the school holiday period. She has asked our 5 year old daughter to be a bridesmaid.

Are people really suggesting that I tell her she can't go to the wedding?
Our friend is getting married in Greece during term time because it is far cheaper to do so than during the school holiday period. She has asked our 5 year old daughter to be a bridesmaid. Are people really suggesting that I tell her she can't go to the wedding? Parold
  • Score: 8

5:13pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

Parold wrote:
Our friend is getting married in Greece during term time because it is far cheaper to do so than during the school holiday period. She has asked our 5 year old daughter to be a bridesmaid.

Are people really suggesting that I tell her she can't go to the wedding?
Ermmm yes...Doh wake up to the regulations.
[quote][p][bold]Parold[/bold] wrote: Our friend is getting married in Greece during term time because it is far cheaper to do so than during the school holiday period. She has asked our 5 year old daughter to be a bridesmaid. Are people really suggesting that I tell her she can't go to the wedding?[/p][/quote]Ermmm yes...Doh wake up to the regulations. Nowthatsworthknowing
  • Score: -8

9:32pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Wickford lady says...

I personally do not take my kids out of school for family holidays. However I do sympathise to a degree in that to enjoy a family holiday you have to accept being charged extortionate rates. Even our own modest camping holidays in the UK are triple in cost compared to that if we went during term time. Not sure what the answer is though.......
I personally do not take my kids out of school for family holidays. However I do sympathise to a degree in that to enjoy a family holiday you have to accept being charged extortionate rates. Even our own modest camping holidays in the UK are triple in cost compared to that if we went during term time. Not sure what the answer is though....... Wickford lady
  • Score: 2

8:10pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Parold says...

Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
Parold wrote:
Our friend is getting married in Greece during term time because it is far cheaper to do so than during the school holiday period. She has asked our 5 year old daughter to be a bridesmaid.

Are people really suggesting that I tell her she can't go to the wedding?
Ermmm yes...Doh wake up to the regulations.
Don't be so ridiculous. I pity your children (although I hope you don't have any).
[quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parold[/bold] wrote: Our friend is getting married in Greece during term time because it is far cheaper to do so than during the school holiday period. She has asked our 5 year old daughter to be a bridesmaid. Are people really suggesting that I tell her she can't go to the wedding?[/p][/quote]Ermmm yes...Doh wake up to the regulations.[/p][/quote]Don't be so ridiculous. I pity your children (although I hope you don't have any). Parold
  • Score: 0

11:48pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Rachie says...

I always have taken my 6 out for 5 school days a year for a holiday in this country. So far I haven't been fined, and I doubt very much that I will be in future.

The kids have all grown up, bar 1. They have good jobs, and have performed consistently well throughout school and into further education.

Bad parent? Maybe.... but then it's not you that will judge me in years to come is it? So I think I'll cope.
I always have taken my 6 out for 5 school days a year for a holiday in this country. So far I haven't been fined, and I doubt very much that I will be in future. The kids have all grown up, bar 1. They have good jobs, and have performed consistently well throughout school and into further education. Bad parent? Maybe.... but then it's not you that will judge me in years to come is it? So I think I'll cope. Rachie
  • Score: 3

5:58pm Sun 22 Jun 14

CHRISTMAS CAROL says...

Wish all parents would take their children away on holiday in term time , then they would'nt be screaming and shouting and annoying me.
Wish all parents would take their children away on holiday in term time , then they would'nt be screaming and shouting and annoying me. CHRISTMAS CAROL
  • Score: 3

7:52pm Sun 22 Jun 14

Sensible Man says...

School days are far too short - you see them going home soon after lunchtime!!!!! And school holidays are far too long. Make these lazy young people study far more - 4 weeks off per year like us workers. And make them attend 8 - 5. Would be good for the lazy public-sector teachers too. My God - the amount of lazy skiving holidays those teachers have beggars belief!!!
School days are far too short - you see them going home soon after lunchtime!!!!! And school holidays are far too long. Make these lazy young people study far more - 4 weeks off per year like us workers. And make them attend 8 - 5. Would be good for the lazy public-sector teachers too. My God - the amount of lazy skiving holidays those teachers have beggars belief!!! Sensible Man
  • Score: 0

1:50pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Gridlock2 says...

Out of curiosity - is it a new fashion for kids to have the day off school on their birthday? This is not really preparing them for the real world is it? Why are parents relenting to every one of their kids demands? This is not really preparing the world for when they are released is it?
Out of curiosity - is it a new fashion for kids to have the day off school on their birthday? This is not really preparing them for the real world is it? Why are parents relenting to every one of their kids demands? This is not really preparing the world for when they are released is it? Gridlock2
  • Score: 4

3:02pm Tue 24 Jun 14

TheaWells says...

Good question above about public schools... do fee paying parents get fined?

Do parents who miss the last day of term get fined? Or is it just during term time and not at the end?
Good question above about public schools... do fee paying parents get fined? Do parents who miss the last day of term get fined? Or is it just during term time and not at the end? TheaWells
  • Score: 0

7:46pm Tue 24 Jun 14

marmaladejack says...

I work in teaching and have a very tight time scale to deliver qualifications in. In fact it has been cut and cut and cut so I now have to deliver the same qualifications in ten hours less teaching time than 6 years ago. So when you take your kids out for a week or two what's the harm? Firstly you are not the only parent to do this, you are probably one of a dozen in our department. The outcome? Well you have students who have fallen behind, have referred work or exams and need to do resits, but the classes are fully timetabled, so we, the teaching staff have to spend our planning time, marking time and lunch time organising for students to come in off timetable (the effect of which some of you have already had a moan about) not only to resit but to have specialist one to one lessons first to catch up on the missed lessons. If the cost of was passed directly on to parents they might reconsider. Or perhaps we should just let the students fail, it is about priories after all. Of course, poor results equal a poor Ofsted which reflects badly on the teaching staff, not the parents who take pupils out of class. Like most teaching staff I prioritise my students, I want them to succeed, get the best possible results and go on to become useful members of society. So I spend part of my holidays, weekends and evenings planning and marking and I help my students catch up after they have missed class but I really wish you wouldn't take your children out during term time.
I work in teaching and have a very tight time scale to deliver qualifications in. In fact it has been cut and cut and cut so I now have to deliver the same qualifications in ten hours less teaching time than 6 years ago. So when you take your kids out for a week or two what's the harm? Firstly you are not the only parent to do this, you are probably one of a dozen in our department. The outcome? Well you have students who have fallen behind, have referred work or exams and need to do resits, but the classes are fully timetabled, so we, the teaching staff have to spend our planning time, marking time and lunch time organising for students to come in off timetable (the effect of which some of you have already had a moan about) not only to resit but to have specialist one to one lessons first to catch up on the missed lessons. If the cost of was passed directly on to parents they might reconsider. Or perhaps we should just let the students fail, it is about priories after all. Of course, poor results equal a poor Ofsted which reflects badly on the teaching staff, not the parents who take pupils out of class. Like most teaching staff I prioritise my students, I want them to succeed, get the best possible results and go on to become useful members of society. So I spend part of my holidays, weekends and evenings planning and marking and I help my students catch up after they have missed class but I really wish you wouldn't take your children out during term time. marmaladejack
  • Score: -3

3:11pm Wed 25 Jun 14

kg3091 says...

My job as an NHS nurse dictates when I can take annual leave and limits the number of school holiday weeks I can take a year to ensure all the staff have some school holidays off to make it fair for everyone. This means that I have half my leave outside school holidays, should I really be punished for wanting to spend time with my own children during this time?

My shifts are dictated to me and I regularly work night shifts and weekends, I have worked the last 6 saturdays in a row 7am-8pm which was not my choice. This prevents me from seeing my children during the time they are off school.

Does it make me a bad parent because I chose a carrier in the NHS?

My children have had no sickness absence and all of them achieve above average results in primary school. They engage in extracurricular activities, play instruments have dance lessons.

I would like to take them on holiday the week before the Easter holiday does that make me a bad parent? I had children so I can look after them and bring them up how I see fit not how it is dictated to me. I am a good mother and value our education system but education doesn't only exist at school.
My job as an NHS nurse dictates when I can take annual leave and limits the number of school holiday weeks I can take a year to ensure all the staff have some school holidays off to make it fair for everyone. This means that I have half my leave outside school holidays, should I really be punished for wanting to spend time with my own children during this time? My shifts are dictated to me and I regularly work night shifts and weekends, I have worked the last 6 saturdays in a row 7am-8pm which was not my choice. This prevents me from seeing my children during the time they are off school. Does it make me a bad parent because I chose a carrier in the NHS? My children have had no sickness absence and all of them achieve above average results in primary school. They engage in extracurricular activities, play instruments have dance lessons. I would like to take them on holiday the week before the Easter holiday does that make me a bad parent? I had children so I can look after them and bring them up how I see fit not how it is dictated to me. I am a good mother and value our education system but education doesn't only exist at school. kg3091
  • Score: 4

3:24pm Wed 25 Jun 14

kg3091 says...

out of interest, I wonder whether the parents of the Wimbledon Ball boys and girls will be fined...
out of interest, I wonder whether the parents of the Wimbledon Ball boys and girls will be fined... kg3091
  • Score: 2

8:09pm Wed 25 Jun 14

BinDipper says...

Gridlock2 wrote:
Out of curiosity - is it a new fashion for kids to have the day off school on their birthday? This is not really preparing them for the real world is it? Why are parents relenting to every one of their kids demands? This is not really preparing the world for when they are released is it?
I always take my birthday off...plus it's in August so never had that school problem
[quote][p][bold]Gridlock2[/bold] wrote: Out of curiosity - is it a new fashion for kids to have the day off school on their birthday? This is not really preparing them for the real world is it? Why are parents relenting to every one of their kids demands? This is not really preparing the world for when they are released is it?[/p][/quote]I always take my birthday off...plus it's in August so never had that school problem BinDipper
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