News RSS Feed Send your news, pictures & videos


No apology over councillor's nob quip

A SOUTHEND councillor has refused to apologise for calling the mayor a “nob”.

In a letter to the Echo published last month, Lib Dem councillor Ric Morgan said he had been working on the seafront during the airshow when the “nobs” were having lunch at the Cliffs Pavilion.

Southend mayor, Lib Dem councillor Brian Smith, was one of only three people at the lunch on bank holiday Monday, even though the council had pre-booked and paid for 60 places.

Shoebury Conservatives accused Mr Morgan of bringing the office of mayor into disrepute and demanded an apology.

However, Mr Morgan has stood by his comments and urged his opponents to check the dictionary definition of the word.

West Shoebury Tory councillor Derek Jarvis said: “Never in my years as a local councillor have I heard of a councillor calling a current serving mayor a nob publicly, especially as they belong to the same party.

“The mayoralty is a fine office and a tradition that should be respected by all councillors and not brought into disrepute in this way.”

Mr Jarvis, who is also the councillor responsible for culture, was one of just 20 people who attended the £50-a-head meal at the Cliffs Pavilion on the Sunday of the airshow.

Fifty places had been booked that day.

Mr Jarvis, who paid for a ticket to the meal, added: “I also attended this event and feel deeply hurt.

“Councillor Morgan should publically withdraw these hurtful and disgraceful comments.”

Only three people, the mayor, his wife and a council official attended a second meal at the restaurant when 60 places had been reserved on the bank holiday Monday.

It is estimated up to £5,500 of taxpayers’ cash was wasted on the no-show dinners.

Mr Morgan, councillor for Prittlewell, said he stood by his comments and had not meant any offence by his use of the word nob.

He said: “Councillor Jarvis should check his dictionary.

“The term nob is an old fashioned term for a socially exalted person.”

Luckily for Mr Morgan, the mayor took the remark in the spirit in which it was intended.

Mr Smith said: “I took it as a compliment.

“It is my understanding a nob is someone who is a well respected member of the establishment.

“It’s quite an achievement.”

The Collins English Dictionary defines the noun nob as British sland which means a person of weath or social distinction.

Comments(13)

westcliff willi says...
4:32am Fri 19 Jun 09

I can comfirm ric morgan is correct
they are all knobs !!

Ronaldo Marteen says...
6:51am Fri 19 Jun 09

Indeed, wealth and social distinction?!?!? The Mayor of Southend ?!??!? I think not, therefore an apology is due, if however they had called him a knob that would have been a completely different doohicky.

Winston Smith says...
7:08am Fri 19 Jun 09

DStorm in a teacup caused by someone who obviously has a weak grasp of the English language:

nob 2 (nb)
n. Chiefly British Slang
A person of wealth or social standing.

Not surprising really. I would imagine Cllr Jarvis is the product of the modern education system, where people emerge barely able to write their own name without a spellchecker and unable to comprehend any sentence longer than a government soundbite.

Southendian says...
9:23am Fri 19 Jun 09

It is also corruption of Nawab or Nawaab was originally the provincial governor or viceroy of a region of the Mughal empire in India. Nabob is also another term. I would not see it as a mildly derogatory term though perhaps a little insensitive of a councillor who should know better. I think the Conservatives have just tried to make an issue of the matter (I have been a Conservative supporter generally). It’s hardly something they should be concerning themselves with as Southend has bigger problems. I’m sure Mr Morgan will be more careful in future.

Winston Smith says...
9:56am Fri 19 Jun 09

I don't even think it is insensitive. Given Britain's colonial history there are a great many words in common usage which stem from other cultures. To show just a few:

Bungalow - India
Chah (for tea) - India
Kushti - Roma
Pukka - India
Mullered - India

There are even people who instead of saying quickly, still say jaldi.

It is not insensitive to use any of these words or terms, it is just a reflection of our history.

etc.


Ricayboy says...
2:25pm Fri 19 Jun 09

Ha ha, what a joke. How can it be deeply hurtful and insensitive to use this term? I can think of far worse things to be called. I am also not a big fan of the pomp and privilege of the Mayor and co, funded by the tax payer.

westcliffboy says...
2:46pm Fri 19 Jun 09

Still no explanation of who booked the lunches; who decided to waste all the food; who didn't even think to invite public in to take up the 110 empty seats over 2 days.
Mayor's office can't answer "because he is non-political". Chief Exec Rob Tinlin (£150,000 a year +++) can't even acknowledge an e-mail after 2 weeks and a written complaint; Head of Tourism Andrew Lewis (£60,000 + + +) also can't even acknowledge an enquiry and complaint.
So guys, what's going on? Why do you not answer simple questions? Who booked it? Who screwed up? And why do WE have to pay for your ****-ups, time and time again? Do the right thing - RESIGN, RESIGN, RESIGN!

Ian Gilbert says...
2:47pm Fri 19 Jun 09

Winston Smith wrote:
DStorm in a teacup caused by someone who obviously has a weak grasp of the English language:

nob 2 (nb)
n. Chiefly British Slang
A person of wealth or social standing.

Not surprising really. I would imagine Cllr Jarvis is the product of the modern education system, where people emerge barely able to write their own name without a spellchecker and unable to comprehend any sentence longer than a government soundbite.
Without wishing to be personal about Councillor Jarvis, I doubt he was the product of a modern education system!

SARFENDMAN says...
3:29pm Fri 19 Jun 09

Seems it's Tory Boy Dick Jarvis who's standing up for the rights of NOBSHIP. Oh dear, I have offended a male Tory by calling him "BOY". Strewth, at best it's a flogging or at worst it's The Colonies. Foulness?

leighbloke says...
12:13am Sat 20 Jun 09

Good to see a councillor out among the ordinairy folk. well done Ric. Glad to see you are not yet a nob.

evilc says...
8:47am Sat 20 Jun 09

Pathetic busy body I am important Politicians they are ALL Nobs!!

wotsit says...
12:31am Sun 21 Jun 09

one day we pay for their jolly ups, the next they want to turn the lights out. What was it, £30,000 on cups of tea - either there is money about or there isnt. And if there is'nt - the office of mayor is a luxury we can ill afford. Maybe they should keep quiet

southendreb says...
3:38pm Sun 21 Jun 09

Having met Ric on many occasions he has a wonderfull sense of humour. and a true passion for Southend and its people . It a shame that Tinlin Jarvis And the cabinet dont have that samepassion and humour.

click2find

Most popular


About cookies

We want you to enjoy your visit to our website. That's why we use cookies to enhance your experience. By staying on our website you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more about the cookies we use.

I agree